Pence preps for potential 2024 presidential run amid rocky headlines about relationship with Trump

He’s on prep? Good for him.

This is so funny. Can’t wait until this guy realises he has no constituency and disappears.

An odd move. Hard to fathom.

Pence is the male version of Amy Coney Barrett.

Right-wing religious whacko authoritarians.

As if.

[quote] Pence is the male version of Amy Coney Barrett.

Hopefully he will be less successful than Miss Amy Cunty. I think he would be a really scary President.

Shame because I actually think he’d be a great candidate but the MAGAts hate him for some irrational reason.

Too many rethuglicunt voters write off Pence as the former guy's bitch. Pence is not seen as having the leadership skills needed for the top job. (Though FG proved time and again that serving and being qualified to serve are two different concepts.)

Does the poor dear not realise that the people he wishes to represent wished to hang him earlier this very year?

Pence is a milquetoast.

Mother, May I Leap with Danger?

He’ll be left standing there like cheese at four Pence.

Mr. Pence, please have several seats.

The GOP ticket will be Trump/DeSantis

He'll be a shoo-in!

^^Please just kill me if that ticket wins.

Delusions of grandeur, he thinks God wants him to be the President. After all those years of sitting behind Trump at speeches and looking adoringly at him, Trump does what he always does--threw him under the bus. No way the GQP base would vote for him, they wanted to hang him on 1/6. That all said, I'm looking forward to seeing him fail spectacularly in his 2024 bid!

I have sufficient.

Trump and DeSantis can't run on the same ticket, because they're both from the same state, and Trump wouldn't be able to handle being upstaged by DeSantis.

My god these freaks. IT'S OVER 3 YEARS AWAY. Get a life, losers.

Trump had set the trend that the election and campaigning never end, and the vast wasteland of the MSM is more than happy to report their every fart.

None of the GOP hopefuls are waiting for Trump, they just aren't announcing that fact, except for Christie.

This article seems like Pence is just trying to keep everyone from writing him off. I don't see his path forward though. The Magat crowd love DeSantis, the religious crowd seems to be going for Haley, and the establishment is looking at Christie and Pompeo right now.

Two words: Caitlyn Jenner.

Can see him doing something like spending tax dollars on "ex gay" therapy centers

He scares me as much as Trump does

A recent poll shows him trailing Duh Santis and even Don Jr (!!!)

Pence is a moron but he does have that piously reassuring radio voice that hypnotizes uneducated Evangelical loons to vote for him.

Sadly, any of the above can beat Joe. I l9ve him to def, but he just doesn't have the cojones to get onstage and fight for himself- esp. in 2024 when he'll be 82.

When I think how a dynamic candidate like Julian Castro, Cory Booker or even Pete Buttigieg could shred those wheezy, pasty Rethuglians onstage...

R14

[quote] The GOP ticket will be Trump/DeSantis

No, the Constitution requires that the President and Vice-President not be citizens of the same state.

Cf. 2000 when Cheney had to do Twister-level contortions to re-establish his Wyoming domicile after living in Texas for many years.

I doubt those tactics will work for either of these fat fucks.

Haley is courting the Evangelicals and the Jewish vote. A few months back one of the religious folks, I think it was Pat Robertson, practically endorsed Haley, not Pence. I think the interesting question is who will Pence wind up endorsing - I don't think it will be Haley, because there was already bad blood there.

The Lincoln Project is already running ads to make Trump jealous of DeSantis. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

The Evangelicals realize that Nimrata...I mean Nikki, is not a true Christian, right?

After all those years of saying the Obama is a closet Muslim, are they really stupid enough to go for the Indian lady?

Trump's base won't go for Trump because Pence wouldn't do what the Constitution prevented him from doing in the first place. But that doesn't matter to Trump and the deplorable Maga crowd.

^^I meant to say...

Trump's base won't go for Pence!

He doesn't have a chance in hell, but he may as well go for those mouthwatering amounts of PAC donations every Republican seems to snag for their personal use.

He came off as a total idiot in the VP debate. Interrupting Harris and allowing her to score a point by telling him to shut up, bringing up the 2009-2010 Swine Flu deaths when asked about Trump's Covid body-count and who can forget the fucking fly? This guy is a joke.

Actually it is not the worst idea. If anyone could destroy Trump in a debate it would be Pence who knows all the dirt.

[quote] Trump and DeSantis can't run on the same ticket, because they're both from the same state,

So what?

After all this time I have no idea why people still have this misconception.

[quote] No, the Constitution requires that the President and Vice-President not be citizens of the same state.

No.

^^^**Read the fucking Constitution loser.

Then pick up a textbook on Constitutional Law.

Ron Death Sentence has tied himself to the albatross of covid. I think the public will be done with him after covid continues to ravage Florida during cold and flu season (which is right around the corner).

[quote]Actually it is not the worst idea. If anyone could destroy Trump in a debate it would be Pence who knows all the dirt.

Dirt doesn’t destroy Trump.

[quote]Can see him doing something like spending tax dollars on "ex gay" therapy centers

As opposed to “gender identity clinics”? Pick your poison.

R39 R40 Trumpers.

He has all of the charisma of boiled celery. He can count on votes from his fellow fundy nutters but that's not enough to win the WH. Just a crappy footnote to the worst POTUS in history and nothing more.

[quote][R39] [R40] Trumpers.

I hope a Republican does set up ex-gay therapy clinics because I want to see left-wing homophobes duke it out with right wing homophobes. It’d be amazing.

Don't forget Pence got the VP job because he was the Koch Brother's pick. With their kind of money behind him, I wouldn't rule him out quite yet.

I don’t rule him out.

Everyone hates Pence. Absolutely everyone

R37, why don’t you tell the class what article and section of the Constitution strictly prohibits this.

Hint: Don’t say Article II, you’d be wrong.

Pence setting up ex-gay clinics has gotten me all excited. I would completely vote for that.

Twelfth amendment.

If Trump and DeSantis can't both be from Florida, Trump will move back to NYC.

Trump is never going to be on another ticket. Also, even he if he were, he'd never partner w/ DeSantis. The whole reason he chose Pence was because he's a nothing and would easily heel to the point of non-existence. Trump isn't going to choose someone ambitious like DeSantis - he'd fear him too much.

Wait until the Republican primary (because Trump is going to make this as difficult as possible for the GOP and make the whole thing about him). But just wait - he's going to completely attack DeSantis.

If you thought losing re-election was tough for Trump, just wait until the GOP tries to move beyond him. Ha! Trump is going to wait until forever to declare a candidacy just to keep sucking ALL the air out of the room. The GOP is his hostage. They should be praying for his death and I'm sure many of them are.

I doubt he has any chance but just in case, let's have that fly on retainer.

R51 Pretty much. It’s gonna suck. We’re gonna be stuck either with Trump who is unelectable or some hack like Nikki Haley who will betray us and enact some massive amnesty. Im probably not voting in 2024. Only way I do is if GOP has a nominee who is not Trump but who has the 2016 Trump position on immigration.

Fuck off, troll

R20, get a life yourself! It's not 'THREE YEARS AWAY'.

We're months away from 2022 (and the midterms) and no doubt potential candidates will start campaigning for President in mid to late 2023. That's about 20 months away...

Yes, please don't vote in 2022 or 2024, R53. Just stay home.

America is not going to vote for a president with the name Nikki.

Plus Nikki Haley is funny if she thinks the GOP would support a brown woman in a national election. Pull the other one.

Nikki or maybe Pompeo is the establishment pick.

DeSantis is the MAGA pick.

Pence has no path.

However, why are people so quick to rule out Trump. He won the 2nd most votes ever, 2nd only to Biden. But, Biden isn’t doing too great with Covid or the economy. Anyone who voted for Trump in 2020, as long as covid didn’t kill them, will vote Trump for 2024. Will Biden be able to say the same?

R59, the thing with Dump is that people despise him. How do you think Biden won in the first place? Dump got the second biggest vote total because Biden got the biggest. I really like Biden and I think he’s done a great job (and the economy is just fine). People came out to vote against Dump and they will again.

He doesn't have any money but he could be a zillionaire if he opted for the corporate/KSA-UAE whore route at this point. That he still chases the presidency suggests to me that he's power-hungry and delusional.

Don’t laugh. He could win and we’d be a country under the control of Christian extremists (not just the Supreme Court)

R62, (although I confess I do hear the echos of “Trump can’t win), Pence is at the bottom of candidates who can win. He’s hated by the Dumpers for not crowning Dumpy king of America. And we know Dumpers are now the majority of the Republican Party.

You make an excellent point about Christian extremists and the Supreme Court. And Today’s Republican Party will not nominate anyone who doesn’t support the right-wing Christian agenda.

Trump voters, if they could be pried off Trump’s neck, want someone just like him who can casually riff for hours making fun of [whomever] and uttering sarcastic jibes and feeding their grievances. A performer. Otherwise they lose interest. Some will still vote but so far I don’t see any contenders who can stir them up like Trump can. He’ll make a play that he’s running again but that’s just as a spoiler to screw up the Republican race.

Unfortunately, I’m not confident about the Dem side. Biden is doing well enough with the mess he landed in but his age is worrisome. Plus he originally said he’d only do one term. Harris is not getting the warm and fuzzies as VP (contrast with Biden’s Diamond Joe/sunglasses cool when he was VP to Obama) but she’s next in line and being pushed aside for a shiny new guy would be just as bad.

R64, I agree, I really think Biden is doing an excellent job, especially with the mess he was handed (just like Obama and Clinton), but I have noticed he’s walking a little more delicately. I’m hoping he can physically maintain the pace—I would understand if he lost a step or two over the years, though. So far, mentally, he seems very sharp. His few gaffes (and there aren’t many at all), are all probably related to the the pressures of the job and remembering the jillions of things that are part of it. If Joe can maintain that, and also not lose too much physically, he will do fine in 2024.

I like Kamala a lot. It’s really hard to gauge how the VP is doing, since they’re usually just figure heads, and in addition, we know she’s a lightning rod for all the racist right wing Fox viewers. Generally, VPs have a hard time being elected president. The only recent one was H.W., and he was voted out after one term. The ones before him lost.

R60, but Biden BARELY won. It was a really, frighteningly close election. And if it hadn't been for Covid, the orange a-hole would probably still be president.

No, it really wasn’t, r66.

R66, Biden won with the largest majority in a Presidential election ever - for some reason (could it be the U.S. media always leans right?), people want to give MORE credit to Trump for coming in 2nd place with 7M fewer votes. Ok. Uh huh.

However, you're right when you say if it hadn't been for COVID Trump would probably still be President. Or, if Trump had actually led during the pandemic and handled it properly, he could've turned it into a BIG win. However, 8 or 9 months was a long time in Trump's presidency and for 4 years he never did ONE thing to try and increase his share of the electorate - in fact, he actually minimised it. So, who knows? He's definitely not winning again. He doesn't have the votes. And regardless of what the right-leaning media likes to say, 70% or more of the American people support Biden's policies, even the Afghanistan withdrawal. I bet Biden will run for re-election again at the top of the ticket and Kamala can try her hand after his 2nd term.

[quote]but Biden BARELY won.

Have there been elections with wider margins?

Only Reagan’s.

Republicans cheat. We will never know the true numbers.

r39 Not gossip rag dirt, but politcal dirt? Like "he had to be told how the supreme court works," dirt? Yeah Trump does not want to look stupid and Pence could make him look semi-retarded.

What is disheartening is that Trump received even more total votes in 2020 than in 2016.

Pence has less charisma than Al Gore, and that is saying something.

If Trump is able to run in 2024, he'll get the nomination and give whomever a run for their money.

The scenes of looting with Dems seen as anti-police didn't help, R73.

[quote] What is disheartening is that Trump received even more total votes in 2020 than in 2016.

I’m not overly concerned about that when you factor in the total turnout in 2020.

r73 yes but Biden received more votes than any other president, ever. It just shows more Americans are anti-trump than pro-trump and that Republicans will vote along party lines no matter what.

r75 and the scenes of the inssurection and them attacking captiol poilce cut to Trump telling them to take to the streets? Yeah he is poison to the GOP now.

I wonder if Trump could win a Republican primary now. He has a lot of very vocal rabid followers, but a lot of Republicans were sick of his bullshit, as evidenced by the 2020 election results. I don't think Pence has a chance, though. Trump's adolescent name calling somehow managed to turn too many of Pence's own fellow party members against him. The only hope Pence has is if he seizes onto the Texas abortion laws and makes promises off that.

Pence is blamed (wrongly, unfairly) by the dead-enders for not doing enough to block Biden. He'd need Trump's specific endorsement to stand a realistic chance of being the nominee.

Pence has no realistic hope - there are too many GOP candidates who are stronger than him.

a Trump endorsement will do nothing. He is poison to the GOP, just a fringe bonkers now. HIs presidency like everything else in his life will go down as the most tragic.

True R77, but it took several days to decide the election...when it should've been over early in the evening. That and the fact that the House and Senate are evenly split is a depressing thought, and doesn't bode well, at least as of this moment.

Prance!

Ms Pence moves in a womanly fashion in that GIF.

Like others said above, she will never get the nomination. Not even if she bottoms for Dotard.

R79 Off course he could. For every one Republican who is sick of his bullshit, another two came out to support him.

The truly deranged and sub-mental Trumpers (Which are lots and lots) think less of him than Nancy Pelosi.

MARY! alert at R84! Werk it gurl!

What a beta male. NOPE! Bye girl!

What will Pence and the other potential candidates do if Trump officially announces he will run again?

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Pence and Trump debate each other.

[quote] Winslett

oh dear

r44 [quote] Winslett

oh dear

r33

[quote] Winslett

oh dear

Three times a charm!

Never forget that running for office, especially president, is a J O B. They can keep money left over.

My dear friend's ex-husband was able to build an expensive new house with his leftovers. All perfectly legal.

Ain't politics grand?

I love it when the “oh, dear” trolls post in the wrong thread.

He's awful BUT he could help dismantle Trump during a primary. He can pull back the curtain on the corruption, dishonesty, ineptitude and hypocrisy. He can do it all in the name of being a good Christian. Now his faith and conscience require him to expose Trump.

As Mother Pence likely says: "Revenge is a dish best served cold, Dear. In Jesus' name... "

Biden won the election by less than 100k votes.

You're welcome to feel good about his nationwide margin but thats not how we pick Presidents. One of many very scary realities of our current political system, which Republicans have massive advantages that will continue to grow.

[quote] Trump is never going to be on another ticket. Also, even he if he were, he'd never partner w/ DeSantis. The whole reason he chose Pence was because he's a nothing and would easily heel to the point of non-existence. Trump isn't going to choose someone ambitious like DeSantis - he'd fear him too much.

Agree. DeathSentence would 25th amendment Trump in a New York minute.

Christianity is at an all time low, yet we keep having these extremists pop out of the woodwork to run our country. They aren't representative of 70% or more of the population. Why don't they gather their funds and start their own country? Instead they want this one when no one wants them.

[quote] "and Trump wouldn't be able to handle being upstaged by DeSantis."

No, but I'd love to see it, R19.

[quote] He's awful BUT he could help dismantle Trump during a primary.

Trump would disembowel Pence during a debate. Don't get me wrong, I would relish that with glee, but I think Pence would just sit there silently and take on the onslaught of Trump's name calling, etc. He's not a fighter.

Agreed r102. There is no low where Dump can’t go lower.

He needs to start wearing a powdered wig. Ben Franklin-style.

Pence doesn’t have that “go for the throat” attitude that Trump has. Trump will humiliate him and Pence will try to ignore it by “sticking to the issues”.

“I asked Mike to have my back in the fake election but he turned and ran! Scaredy-cat Mike I call him. Can you believe? After all I’ve done for him.”

“I intend to restore faith in our great country so my first job will be introducing a bill making morning prayer required in every school.”

Mikey will speak for the only people who like him.

Magats hate Pence did we forget they wanted to hang him?

I did.

He's probably the one R who could lose to Harris.

Let's just deport the Trumpers to Haiti and give the Haitians their property here.

Let’s be Mother and don our best sequin attire in support!

In OP's attached post, I can't help but think that the elephant is mocking Pence's finger.

True R109, but that's quite the scary scenario.

After the midterms someone will emerge from the republican party and defy Trump and his minions.

Paul Ryan maybe?

The thing is that there are a fair number of voters who might be at this point disappointed with Biden, but at the same time definitely don't want Trump back either.

Biden "won" by fraud. Lots and lots of provable fraud.

Paul Ryan is despised more than Pence.

R116 how many times does Biden have to win?

Dream on, Betty Crocker. You ain't becoming President. You made that disgusting bed, now swallow, bitch.

“ One of many very scary realities of our current political system, which Republicans have massive advantages that will continue to grow.”

Care to explain how these advantages will continue to grow? What is growing is diversity. By leaps and bounds. The Census was bad news for Republicans. And rural white people are dying on the vine. Sure, Republicans may have advantages in the short term. But that’s poised to change, irrespective of voter suppression and gerrymandering.

If only we could just FLUSH these turds away…

Who does he think will vote for him?? The Trumptards literally want him dead. Obviously no liberals or moderates want him. Who is his base?

The headlines are rocky or his relationship with trump was rocky?

Mother, R122.

I don't understand how Pence could be so oblivious - his own party doesn't like him anymore. As for the Dems, I'm not sure Joe is up for another term and I'm unimpressed with Kamala. Wonder who will be the Dem's pick.

The presidential race doesn't really heat up for another year or two, when the landscape will probably look quite different than it does these days.

If the Dems manage to keep the Senate next year, someone needs to do an intervention with Breyer to get Harris on the court!

Spineless devious slime. He has no leadership capacity.

Hmm...

Interesting

You don't say.

[quote]"and the establishment is looking at Christie and Pompeo right now."

That's an awful amount of lard ass.

R14 100% and I'm terrified it will be wildly successful as far as voter support. God help us all.

He's more spineless than a slug. A true coward in every sense of the word.

Trump’s VP will not be DeSantis.

Like to see Trump and Pence come in last and second last in a Repug field of 20.

Here's perhaps a dirty little secret, or massive elephant in the room: some Hispanic voters are coming to see Dems as "the party of the blacks"?

I know that will cause massive FF and flaming, but I believe it's at least a factor?

If Democrats are the party of the blacks (and Muslims) - where does that leave gays? Someone in that tent is going to have to bend and it’s not going to be blacks or Muslims.

Pence knows that the only way to stay relevant is to be a potential presidential candidate. It means bigger audiences and more money in his pocket.

He wont run against Trump. He may make a run if Trump doesn't. There's a lane for him if he runs. You dont need much more than 33% in most primaries to win. While hardcore trumpists might not vote for him, plenty of suburban conservatives and more casual trump fans might if Trump is not running

Mother wants to be first lady.

Trump will be the nominee in 24. I’d like to see him run with no social media.

"Mother" will promise unity. Her White House advocacy project will be making towel pins.

Don't be so sure about Trump. A million things can change in politics between now and then. Biden may be having some challenges now, but this time period is only a snapshot of his entire term.

It's going to be difficult, but if Trump runs, then the country will have to mobilize to defeat him again as it did in 2020.

"Mother" will be the 'Mother of the . yearning nation'. Adoring millions need hugs close to her warm bosom.

Pence has got a big strong chest and arms. He needs to show it off by wearing tighter shirts.

Hispanic voters mostly don’t.

No one is voting for him.

Pence is now dismissive January 6.

A Dump/Pence debate MIGHT be worth the price of admission.

I wonder if the Dems are in serious trouble as so many seem to be more independent and don't support the craziness the Dems stand for at times.

They already were. Biden's wasn't a legitimate win. The evidence of ballot tampering is staggering.

R144 = Adam Schock

You forgot R150 /s

R136

I agree. Very few people seem to understand the conservativeness of many Hispanics - they are over represented in the military and the police.

And they don't like being lumped into the "minority" category.

I want Pence to run so he can split the vote between Trump and himself.

He certainly feels a sense of divine mission. Let's see if he is truly blessed.

R150, the evidence is so “staggering” that none of it has been proven, even in heavily Republican areas. It’s all in your daft mind, baby.

At this point, it's downright pathetic that Mikey feels he has even a remote chance at this given that the base would be fine with having him tarred and feathered.

Don't dismiss Trump picking Lindsey Graham as his running mate. Graham has a big mouth, no principles, loves being on camera, and is infatuated with Trump.

Trump will pick Nikki or Kristi Noem of South Dakota.

It's way too early but I don't think Pence would win - low energy, not charismatic. I just had a look at polls of a hypothetical Republican primary and Trump is still topping those, with De Santis next.

Pence has garnered the housefly delegation, though their offspring, thus far are polling as MAGAts.

So, this evil psychopath is going to base part of his campaign on how much he dislikes an overprivileged, corrupt pig like Trump, even though he will follow very similar policies and adopt an almost identical ideological model? Yes, I am sure that this will fascinate most of the electorate... 🙄

I don't know how he manages the nomination when a majority, or at least a strong plurality, of their base positively loathes him as a traitor? Moreover, even if he did somehow manage to wrangle the actual nomination, Trump's dead-enders would sit on their hands all day on Election Day rather than cast a ballot.

"Mother" & Pence are raking in $$$$.

2024 needs someone new. I didn't really like any of the democratic candidates in 2020. (and obviously not the republican one.)

Isn't there some smart competent non-polarizing governor or congress person who could burst on the scene? (sort of like Obama did?)

Tulsi? She was my favorite candidate of either party in 2020.

Since Biden seems to just do what his staff tells him (as have lots of presidents) why not continue that tradition but get a president/spokesperson with some pizzazz who can work a crowd up and make us feel happy.

Gaga? Are you on the DL. Please run.

Trump will pick DeSantis r158. They will kill it.

No way tRump hates DeSatan

What is "Mother" planning for the upcoming holidays?

I believe Pence is just pushing the idea that he will run to get bigger bucks on the lecture circuit. But he also knows that running for president will be a hopeless pursuit because the dems will never vote for him and neither will the Trump sub-mentals in the primaries who are now in total control of the republican party.

r170 is correct. He is running the same way Trump ran in 2016. It's a publicity tour that keeps him open for anything and keeps him in the spotlight. And if he actually runs, so be it.

It would be fun to see them ripping each other to shreds

True R150, but I have a feeling the Dems will still lose both in 2022 and 2024, thanks mainly to AOC and her group's refusal to compromise.

More than just AOC, but the party's embrace of the far left in general. I'll keep repeating like the brokenest record there is: The Dems [bold]suck[/bold] at messaging, allowing R's to portray [italic]them[/italic] as extremists.

A Trump and De Santis ticket would be great. I can see Trump ripping Ron to shreds during the campaign!