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Sorry I'm late, life just happened

Why the hell do people just excuse themselves for anything now? Plan your life better.

"... Kristin Olson-Kott, who recently arrived late to work because her daughter needed a hug at school,"

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by Anonymousreply 122September 21, 2021 4:46 PM

I hear stupid fucking excuses like that all the time at work. The frauification of society in general.

by Anonymousreply 1September 17, 2021 8:20 PM

Because people lead sloppy lives, and because people value themselves more than others.

Decades of being told "You're special, and shit happens, and the world understands/accepts you" will get you a few million selfish assholes who are forgetful, tardy, and wasteful of other people's time.

by Anonymousreply 2September 17, 2021 8:21 PM

I bag my husband’s blow up sex doll in his lunch pail for just such emergencies!

by Anonymousreply 3September 17, 2021 8:22 PM

Dada I need da Fuck!

by Anonymousreply 4September 17, 2021 8:25 PM

This didn’t happen. Kristin is an elaborate scenario troll.

by Anonymousreply 5September 17, 2021 8:31 PM

R5 The cunt just overslept again, or she was too busy sexting with her hunky Jamaican yoga instructor to look at the time.

by Anonymousreply 6September 17, 2021 8:35 PM

Does your job own you people? Isn’t that a show of weakness? To totally live your life according to what your boss says?

If you need to do something in your life, go do it. Call your work’s bluff. Chances are you’re more difficult to replace than compromise with so you’ll be able to do it. And if they fire you because you need to do something during the day then they’re probably not worth your time.

by Anonymousreply 7September 17, 2021 8:38 PM

Sorry you're late, re-scheduling just happened. Check with the front desk on your way out, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 8September 17, 2021 8:41 PM

R7 No one is "owned," but the bitch made a commitment and everyone else showed up on time. Being habitually late for appointments indicates to other people that you do not value their time, and don't mind wasting it when your own life gets in the way. The bitch made sure to get her kids to school on time, and she surely leaves her office on time every day - because those things are clearly important to her. But being late to work or late to meetings is conveniently excused with a cute story.

If you can't show up on time, then you're an unreliable worker who's being paid for something you cannot deliver. You deserve to be shit-canned and replaced with someone who can read a goddamn clock. And good luck finding another job when your ex-employer gives a reference of "This twat was always late, and when pressed, yelled at us about work-life balance and nobody owning her time."

by Anonymousreply 9September 17, 2021 8:45 PM

I want my way! Waaaahhhhhh.

by Anonymousreply 10September 17, 2021 8:48 PM

R9 ok I wasn’t talking about her specifically rather everyone’s replies. But thank you. Btw you sound owned.

by Anonymousreply 11September 17, 2021 8:49 PM

🤮

by Anonymousreply 12September 17, 2021 8:53 PM

What sad this little lives you all must lead that your only response to the article is to trash the person who wrote it. The point of it was not to be late in an abusive way but if something comes up and if family related then handle it. I don't see anything wrong with the way it was handled. As long as you are a productive and valued member of a company taking an hour or so of personal time is fine.

Lighten up you all.

by Anonymousreply 13September 17, 2021 8:55 PM

R13 The problem comes when no notice is given, or when people with families expect everyone else to be flexible to suit their needs just because they have a family.

Realistically, no one in the workplace is obligated to give a fuck about your life outside the workplace. We don't care how cute your kids are, or how many afghans your mother knits, or how many hugs your kid needs before recess. We care about who you are as a worker during the business day. Either do the job and be accountable, or go home and play with your kids. But don't trot out cute pictures to cover up the fact that you're not pulling your weight ever since you farted out the kids.

by Anonymousreply 14September 17, 2021 9:00 PM

I understand someone’s bathroom flooding, or their car won’t start, or there was road construction, or the repair guy came late, or their appointment with their doctor was not on time. But because my daughter was having a bad day and needed a hug? Nope.

I don’t remember having a bad day at school. Stuff happened like being hit by a ball, or messing up my book report, or being teased. But that’s life! I got through it to live another day. I didn’t call my mom to make it all go away. One reason is we didn’t have phones, the other is it wouldn’t have crossed my mind, unless it was something really bad and of course she would have come.

by Anonymousreply 15September 17, 2021 9:04 PM

Sorry that you died of appendicitis, but our surgeon was busy hugging his kid at home!

by Anonymousreply 16September 17, 2021 9:08 PM

In other words, she’s teaching her daughter that the way to deal with a bad day at school is to call mommy, who’ll drop everything to come give her a hug.

by Anonymousreply 17September 17, 2021 11:23 PM

These slovenly employee attitudes is what makes employers send their manufacturing overseas to China or some other slave state.

by Anonymousreply 18September 17, 2021 11:28 PM

I'd much rather be proud of my work ethic than be the sort of asshole who thinks my life and time is more important than everyone else's.

by Anonymousreply 19September 17, 2021 11:32 PM

Did she offer a word of thanks to the "someone" who will "have to" take the call she was supposed to be on? Maybe bring them a coffee? You know she didn't because breeders are the most insufferable and entitled people on earth. Part of the blame goes to the school too. Once a kid is dropped off, unless something serious happens, they're the school's problem. What idiot decided to call a parent over some bullshit like this? Fuck her, fuck her pussy kid, and fuck the school too. I hate everything about this. So glad I work for myself and don't have to deal with this kind of breeder, frau bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 20September 17, 2021 11:49 PM

OP, I'm just speaking my truth!

by Anonymousreply 21September 17, 2021 11:51 PM

Padma SoCheap

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by Anonymousreply 22September 17, 2021 11:58 PM

Punctuality no longer exists

by Anonymousreply 23September 18, 2021 12:01 AM

R23 And now it's a wypipo problem. No more CP Time!

by Anonymousreply 24September 18, 2021 12:06 AM

R13 We've all had to work with Frauen who use their fucking crotch droppings as an excuse fore everything. Dont you dare question it either ! Like one I worked with who called in every fri or mon as regular as clockwork because one of her kids was "sick" . That bitch had 3 day weekends but was salary like the rest of us .Who do you think picked up her slack ? Nope,worked with way too many women with kids to ever want to again.

by Anonymousreply 25September 18, 2021 12:07 AM

R25 Fuck her slack, and her slack pussy too!

Do your own work, and leave people like that to drown like the rats they are. The only reason most of them still have jobs at all is because people like you will do their work for them, and won't even call them out on it.

by Anonymousreply 26September 18, 2021 12:10 AM

I recently visited a hospital with a robot on wheels which delivered things throughout 12 floors and 6 wings of the hospital. And last week I saw a robot washing up spills on the floor of my local supermarket.

I'd rather have a robot employee than a human employee.

by Anonymousreply 27September 18, 2021 12:11 AM

R27 You love to see it. Morons being replaced by robots, just like their daddies were replaced by foreigners in sweatshops.

Pretty soon, you won't even be able to get a job digging ditches or flipping burgers, or driving for Uber. The deadbeats will be like the Okies of the 1930s, only instead of a Dust Bowl, the smelly fuckers will be fleeing a college education.

by Anonymousreply 28September 18, 2021 12:15 AM

I hear what you say, R28. I think one needs to move from big companies to very small companies with a like-minded boss who doesn't employ deadbeats.

That's what I did.

by Anonymousreply 29September 18, 2021 12:19 AM

[quote]Punctuality no longer exists

Punctuality is racist.

by Anonymousreply 30September 18, 2021 3:51 AM

Post-Covid era, there really is no excuse anymore for "Be on time." It should just be about, "As long as it gets done and done right, do your work." Tired of all these punctuality porn actors in the workplace who want the whole world to kiss their ass because they always arrive exactly 27 seconds before their established start time and, while at that workplace all day, half the time can't get out of their own way, form a completely comprehensible sentence, or really get anything completely done or done right. As long as someone's getting their work accomplished, I don't care if they do it from the beach in the middle of the night with a flashlight and wearing scuba gear.

by Anonymousreply 31September 18, 2021 4:26 AM

You would make an interesting employer, R31.

Have you employed anyone yet?

by Anonymousreply 32September 18, 2021 4:29 AM

I had a frauen therapist who cancelled three appointments in as many months because her kid was sick. I got a new therapist, a man, he's professional, never cancelled an appointment and I wouldn't have a clue if he has kids or not.

by Anonymousreply 33September 18, 2021 6:27 AM

It's okay once in a while. It becomes a problem when it's chronic. When it's a weekly or monthly thing, it becomes burdensome on others. You have a job, you have responsibilities to your boss, your subordinates, your clients/customers and so on. If you take an hour or a morning off now and again in an otherwise excellent work performance, no one will care. Do it constantly and the people you're dumping on will start to care and then be finished caring when you're fired.

The useful old adage "Don't be a dick" springs to mind.

by Anonymousreply 34September 18, 2021 6:42 AM

R31, you can do that of you have a flexible work schedule, but if you have a set work schedule and you’re starting at 8 am, then I expect your lazy ass to be there BEFORE the agreed time, because you’re supposed to be working at 8 am.

And if you think that this is stupid now during COVID and unnecessary as long as the work gets done, then you need to let management know and have them change your hours. YOU don’t make the fucking rules at a company YOU don’t own. If I had a penny for every entitled little cunt like you in my life as an employee and a business owner, I would have made a fortune without having to work.

by Anonymousreply 35September 18, 2021 10:02 AM

Let's hear it for the co workers who show up at 7:59 to begin their eight o'clock shift. Then leave at eleven thirty for their daughter's eye appointment (her daughter is 18, has a driver's license, and can get there on her own just fine). The ones who are always in the manager's office with the door closed, cutting up. The ones with three catalogues spread over their desk, standing up in her Hallmark cubicle and saying, "Last call for the Yankee Candle order! I'm placing it now!" Or better yet, sending an email to the whole department. Or better than that, a group voice mail.

All this happening as the rest of you are working on a project that's due in two hours and the manager flies out of her office to get her Yankee Candle order in. I'd include males in this scenario, but I've never seen men pull this shit in the office.

by Anonymousreply 36September 18, 2021 10:17 AM

R36, that’s bullshit. because it’s a completely different issue. Being punctual, productive, reliable, and knowledgeable are always expected from employees.

If you can’t show up on time, then you’re just as bad as the person you’re blaming for leaving work for 3 hours on a regular basis, because neither one of you is fulfilling their contractual obligations. It’s as easy as that.

by Anonymousreply 37September 18, 2021 10:24 AM

My father always maintained that the office was a much better place before women joined the workforce. I'm yet to find any evidence of the contrary.

by Anonymousreply 38September 18, 2021 10:47 AM

[quote] a much better place before women joined the workforce

Yes. Less sexual tension and less sexual torment.

by Anonymousreply 39September 18, 2021 10:53 AM

I love these threads wherein everyone confuses being a hardass (delusion) with being a pushover corporate slave (reality). So cringe.

by Anonymousreply 40September 18, 2021 1:13 PM

[quote] I love these threads

Do you really? Or are you being sarcastic?

by Anonymousreply 41September 18, 2021 1:17 PM

R40 You have nothing of value to contribute if you use the phrase "so cringe."

by Anonymousreply 42September 18, 2021 1:18 PM

[quote]"... Kristin Olson-Kott, who recently arrived late to work because her daughter needed a hug at school,"

Hugging your kid is more important than working. It's fucked up that Datalounge says that kind of thinking is just frau nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 43September 18, 2021 1:19 PM

I've never understood why so many Dataloungers don't wonder why we get people who literally say "women should not be allowed to hold jobs." Do you ever hear anything that crazy anywhere else online, outside of Q enclaves?

by Anonymousreply 44September 18, 2021 1:20 PM

R7 - as someone who’s been a boss - everyone is replaceable.

by Anonymousreply 45September 18, 2021 1:24 PM

The OP post intent was not targeted at women. The author of the article itself was a woman, yes.

by Anonymousreply 46September 18, 2021 1:27 PM

R45 sure but having a shit fit over someone being late and sacrificing weeks of company time training a new person just to make a point is unsustainable and irresponsible.

Of course this thread broke down into a “girls shouldn’t work🥴” thread.

[quote] as someone who’s been a boss

lol

by Anonymousreply 47September 18, 2021 1:29 PM

No, R47, you implied people should be shitty employees and push to see what they can get away with because they’re not easily replaced. You didn’t say one time behavior. Everyone is easily replaced. It’s more worth my time and expense to train someone new who isn’t a dog fucker than it is to continually put up with excuses over being late, etc. And those are usually the type who infect the rest of the place with their shitty behavior. So yeah, cut ‘em loose.

by Anonymousreply 48September 18, 2021 1:36 PM

Women ruin everything except the supply of future twinks of no appeal.

by Anonymousreply 49September 18, 2021 1:37 PM

"I'm a boss and I refer to my employees as dog fuckers, which shows that I'm the voice of reason here."

by Anonymousreply 50September 18, 2021 1:40 PM

I'll never understand people who are chronically late, and you're deluding yourselves if you think that only fraus are ever late. What's so difficult about leaving 5 minutes early?

by Anonymousreply 51September 18, 2021 1:42 PM

I’ve been working from home since the start of the pandemic. Most of my team (men and women, parents and non-parents) adapted pretty quickly and are responsive during work hours, get stuff done on time, work collaboratively, etc.

Then there are those few (men and women, mind you) who are never available when you call them, take hours to respond to a simple email, act like they’re put out when you call them, etc. Then on those rare occasions when they ARE at their desks “getting their work done,” as some of you argue, everything is a fire drill and they need something from you ASAP so they can meet their deadline so they can get back to the golf course. I’ve stopped catering to these people. I’ve been available during work hours all week, you weren’t, and now I’m supposed to drop everything to help you with your last minute deadline? No thanks.

Bottom line: if you were hired to work full time and are being paid to work full time, then work full time. It DOES affect your team when you are not there. At the very least, be available during work hours and tell us in advance when you are not. If that’s not acceptable to you, quit the job and find your bliss elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 52September 18, 2021 1:45 PM

R7 = unemployed loser

by Anonymousreply 53September 18, 2021 2:37 PM

Yeah, R50, I am the voice of reason. It’s not reasonable to have employees continually have to take time away or off for their kids or whatever other “trauma” they’re experiencing. Guess who picks up their slack? Other employees who manage to take their jobs seriously. Once in awhile is fine, but I’ve managed employees who would pull some shit weekly. People like YOU need to think of it from other perspectives, and not just your own selfish one.

by Anonymousreply 54September 18, 2021 2:59 PM

No R48 you inferred the part about ‘shitty employees’ I said no such thing. And by ‘being late’ I meant continually, it’s not necessarily a singular event. Your English isn’t great. I’ve never heard ‘dog fuckers’ before, you sound deranged lol.

by Anonymousreply 55September 18, 2021 3:08 PM

Not everyone has an inner sense of time, thus the eternal lateness. It's not that people with no "internal clock" are completely incapable of pulling their shit together; they are, but for them it's an enormous effort that nobody can be expected to put in every day. It certainly is a problem, but I don't know if there's a solution. As for women in the workplace specifically, I'm fine with the boss not caring if an employee's kid lives or dies; not his problem. Unfortunately for him, the law states that he must hire women, and women employees are occasionally late or have to take off in the middle of the workday because of the kids. And so it shall be, unless and until men assume as much responsibility for child-rearing as women do, at which time R33 's male therapist will become just as unreliable as his former female one.

by Anonymousreply 56September 18, 2021 3:11 PM

It's also ironic that some posters here maintain that they have no obligation to give a shit about a late employee's personal issues, then turn around and accuse that employee of selfishness. As if that employee is obligated to give a shit about YOUR issues.

by Anonymousreply 57September 18, 2021 3:31 PM

I'm always late.

by Anonymousreply 58September 18, 2021 4:14 PM

I'm only worried about my own punctuality and attendance. I always think if I'm not perfect, they'll use it as an excuse to 'get rid of the fag'.

by Anonymousreply 59September 18, 2021 4:18 PM

R56 is utterly full of shit. "Not everyone has an inner sense of time?" What the fuck does that mean?

NO ONE has an internal sense of time. Time is a human construct, invented to help organize waking hours for productive use and to coordinate shared activities where people who lack telepathic bonds can be at a certain place to do certain things.

And no workplace expects people to have an "internal sense of time." We expect you to read a clock, and get your dead asses to work when the little hand touches the number we both agreed would signify the start of your workday. If you can't do that, it's not because you were just born without an internal clock. It's because you're too lazy or dumb to read a clock and make your job a priority. If you don't want to do that, someone else will.

by Anonymousreply 60September 18, 2021 11:29 PM

And you’re an asshole, R55. Happy to block you.

by Anonymousreply 61September 18, 2021 11:36 PM

[quote]It’s not reasonable to have employees continually have to take time away or off for their kids

Somebody has to take care of the kids. Their kids are more important than your shitty little business.

[quote]Guess who picks up their slack? Other employees who manage to take their jobs seriously.

We live in a society where wages have been stagnating for decades and both adults have to work, they have no choice. I'm quite certain you would say that means people shouldn't be allowed to have kids because their kids inconvenience you.

[quote]Once in awhile is fine, but I’ve managed employees who would pull some shit weekly. People like YOU need to think of it from other perspectives, and not just your own selfish one.

I don't have kids and was never late to work. I had FMLA when my mother was terminally ill with cancer and still had to deal every goddamned day with dogfuckers like you telling me I was inconveniencing them, why was I so selfish, why didn't I care about work like good normal honest hard-working people did? Except I did work 50-hour weeks, coming in late at night and on weekends and whenever I had a spare moment, and it still wasn't good enough. Mom would call screaming in pain and I'd leave to take care of her and come back to a nasty voice mail from my boss saying they were going to fire me, and I'd have to leave copies of my FMLA paperwork on their desk to gently remind them that they couldn't.

People like you are fucking garbage.

by Anonymousreply 62September 18, 2021 11:48 PM

I will not employ persons who are—

[quote] utterly full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 63September 18, 2021 11:51 PM

R62 If their kids are that important, then they can go work somewhere else. I'm running a business and I need reliable workers. I hold up my end of the bargain by paying them for their time. If they skip out on work because of their stupid kids, then they're not doing their part, and I'm within reason to dismiss them. I can't do shit with "But I love my kids!" I can't pay bills with that, or pour cement with that, or keep the rest of my workers employed with that.

Your bad experiences with a toxic boss are no excuse for the rest of us to put up with shitty employees who aren't doing their part. Taking FMLA isn't the same as lying down on the job. FMLA removes you from the employee pool, and in most cases, removes your pay as well. You won't be fired, but you usually don't get paid for the time you miss. This allows your employer to hire a temp to take your place while you're off playing nursemaid. Put your sympathy card back in the deck. No one here is talking about people with legitimate and legally protected FMLA status. People like you usually leave the workplace, and aren't our problem. The problem workers are the people who do NOT take leave, but who show up late every day and use their family as an excuse for not doing their job.

by Anonymousreply 64September 19, 2021 12:22 AM

[quote]Hugging your kid is more important than working.

Hugs are worth so much more than food or shelter!

by Anonymousreply 65September 19, 2021 12:24 AM

Actualy, it's the being on time that is truly trivial. Who the fuck cares, really? This is still 19th century thinking. Oh noes, somebody didn't clock into the factory at the annointed minute. Seriously, who the fuck cares, and why?

by Anonymousreply 66September 19, 2021 12:28 AM

To R13 and people like her/him: This topic resonates, especially with gay guys because it's something all of us have been forced to live with for decades in the workplace. And to a great degree, gay/lesbian women also. That's why you're seeing the reactions you're reading.

Straight people, particularly straight, Western women with children, are the only ones traditionally seen as having "families". Single or gay people often don't have such excuses. We can't say "I have to leave work early to pick up little Kaya" or "Sorry I'm late, little Aidan just wouldn't get in gear this morning!". Often times, the result is more work being pushed off onto those of us without those excuses, or it trickles down to impacting us in other adverse ways. Who here who has ever worked in an office hasn't seen that office often clear out by 3:30 or 4pm on summer afternoons, or around holiday time, or fall when school is starting? It's always accepted that mommies and daddies have different, more flexible rules than the rest of us. And it isn't just gays and lesbians that suffer from it, it's single people also.

So, yeah. The writer of that article and everyone like her are privileged and deserve a lot of the heat they get for it.

by Anonymousreply 67September 19, 2021 12:28 AM

[quote]I'm always late.

And I bet it doesn't make the slightest fucking difference to what you get done that day. None at all. Not even the tiniest little bit.

by Anonymousreply 68September 19, 2021 12:30 AM

We have Flexi-Time and a 'bundy-clock' with finger-print recognition.

It works well.

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by Anonymousreply 69September 19, 2021 12:33 AM

I don't bother explaining why I'm late. I would rather look like an inconsiderate asshole than say something no one believes like "omg the traffic". Agree with r66. People need to calm the fuck down when it comes to punctuality.

by Anonymousreply 70September 19, 2021 12:33 AM

R66 R70 Because your being late can affect other people's work. Your coworkers depend on you, and you might have customers or tasks that do as well. Those of you working white-collar office jobs don't have as much responsibility for structured shifts, but people in many jobs need to show up on time so the entire workplace can keep functioning.

You idiots are lucky you've never had a surgeon or fireman show up an hour late. shrug, and say "Hey, I got here when I felt like it!"

by Anonymousreply 71September 19, 2021 12:37 AM

oh please r71 you think people can't tell the difference between a surgeon scheduled for surgery and every asshole who just NEEEEDDDDSSSSS to clock in to get started on some meaningless spreadsheet accomplishing nothing. Really? That's your mindset? That everyone is a surgeon being rushed into surgery to save the patient?

by Anonymousreply 72September 19, 2021 12:39 AM

R64 I’m guessing you have high turnover, low employee morale and lower productivity as a result? You showed them hard man! Also why are you (and the other self appointed boss bitch) referring to yourself as a plural sometimes? Weird. Also who the fuck says ‘read a clock’ anymore what year is this?

by Anonymousreply 73September 19, 2021 12:42 AM

R72 Ice your 'roids, lady! I said no such thing!

A surgeon knows his or her schedule, and sticks to it. They don't have the luxury of being a lazy ass and rolling in late because their kid needed a hug.

by Anonymousreply 74September 19, 2021 12:43 AM

Yes a surgeon, r74. The vast majority of people, there is no reason to give a fuck unless you think you are the reincarnation of Henry Ford, and nothing has changed since 1920.

by Anonymousreply 75September 19, 2021 12:45 AM

R75 So when the rest of us have to sit around and wait for the meeting to start, or tell customers they'll have to come back later, or do a second person's job on top of our own, we're supposed to shrug and say "Hey, it ain't 1920 anymore. Kids these days are exempt from responsibility!"

No. We fire people who do this. And then they go home, get on social media, and whine their twats off about how no one will hire them anymore and how the world is a cruel place run by the super-rich. Bums.

by Anonymousreply 76September 19, 2021 12:50 AM

which useless meeting would that be r76. And honestly, can't you just have it anyway. Or can't you schedule it for 11 instead of 8 am? Do you actually give a shit? Why? What is so vital that you are doing in that meeting?

Yes, of course you "fire people who do this." Because you are a trivial twat doing nonsense for no particular reason. We all get that.

by Anonymousreply 77September 19, 2021 12:53 AM

R77 The kind of meeting where the sales director is late, or the IT guy, or the middle-manager Karen who called the meeting in the first place. Some meetings can't fully proceed if key people are missing.

I know you've never experienced this personally, but some people in the workplace are actually influential and important. Not everyone's a brainless dog groomer or gas-pumper. And when one of these important people is chronically tardy to meetings, the others can't properly proceed without them. They either sit around waiting and gossiping about what an asshole that person is, or they attempt to move on but keep circling back to the missing member and all the stuff that won't be decided because that idiot never showed up.

People who make a habit of this eventually get fired. Even an important person can use up his goodwill and usefulness if he screws over his coworkers too many times.

by Anonymousreply 78September 19, 2021 12:57 AM

Oh noes, I am so insulted! I am not a corporate mover. The trauma, the trauma.

Who gives a shit, bitch? The important thing is that maybe 1 percent of meetings actually matter, and in those cases the people who matter to the meeting probably do show up. If not, then really the meeting didn't matter that much to begin with. And stop pretending it did, and definitely stop pretending that therefore every single meeting happening this year actually matters. They don't. Everyone knows they don't. Even you know they don't. It's at least 90 percent bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 79September 19, 2021 1:01 AM

R79 That's some deep rationalization. You sound like the kind of guy who says "So what if the boss fired me? Those meetings were worth skipping!"

And before that, it was "Who needs college? I saw Animal House. It was all just a bunch of idiots drinking. I went to the school of hard knocks!"

And when you were a child, maybe you said "I'm glad I didn't go to any slumber parties. Why sleep on a strange floor with other people when I can have my own bed all to myself?"

by Anonymousreply 80September 19, 2021 1:06 AM

And you sound like the dreariest middle manager that ever read the entire employee manual and decided that this, this here, this here manual would forever be your War and Peace, the greatest thing ever written and don't you peons forget it.

Go forth, child, and stop being trivial. There are greater feats in life than living by the employee manual. You will be happier, and so will everyone unfortunate to have to listen to your nonsense once a year at their reviews.

by Anonymousreply 81September 19, 2021 1:11 AM

R81 You'll be late to that performance review meeting, won't you?

by Anonymousreply 82September 19, 2021 1:14 AM

You can read Datalounge and just tell who is unemployed and unemployable.

by Anonymousreply 83September 19, 2021 1:14 AM

I'm fine r83. Thanks for caring. And thanks for sharing. You really do illustrate the nonsense of this economy in a truly basic way. Thanks, dear.

by Anonymousreply 84September 19, 2021 1:16 AM

R79 "Oh noes"

What is your native language? Please get educated.

by Anonymousreply 85September 19, 2021 1:18 AM

good lord, r85, you just are so bad at all of this. in every way. I want to call you Boris, but you are not Boris. You are just an American who has no clue about anything beyond your own silly head. Sweetie, just, sweetie.

by Anonymousreply 86September 19, 2021 1:20 AM

[quote] Actualy, it's the being on time that is truly trivial. Who the fuck cares, really?

WE DO.

by Anonymousreply 87September 19, 2021 1:24 AM

Sorry I'm late to reply to this thread. Something came up. But I agree wirh everything so far.

by Anonymousreply 88September 19, 2021 1:31 AM

My doctor charges a $60 fee to any patient who's late for their appointment.

by Anonymousreply 89September 19, 2021 1:43 AM

Bless your heart, R86. Moron.

by Anonymousreply 90September 19, 2021 1:46 AM

Your doctor is a bit of a cunt r89.

by Anonymousreply 91September 19, 2021 1:52 AM

I agree with some of the posters above who think being late for family matters is a trivial thing. It is. But what happens so frequently is it gets out of control, and before you know it, the mother (and from my experience it is always mothers) in question is coming in late, leaving early, taking sick days either side of school holidays, doing personal things all day - the list goes on.

I have a woman like that on staff now. We're all working from home because of COVID and she only shows up to meetings, starts work about 3:30pm and responds or shoots off a heap of emails just when most people are winding down for the day. That means anything that needed to be done for that day gets extended by another day or two and people are left doing nothing until she approves. As a manager, it then becomes near impossible to reign that sort of shit in without a lot of kickback.

Her contract is up in January and I won't be renewing it. She's struggling single Mom so it's going to be rough for her, but I need someone who is actually going to work for the wage I pay. Bullshit only gets you so far.

by Anonymousreply 92September 19, 2021 2:08 AM

I get that some of that happens r92, but honestly, I think we need to rethink work in this country. We are stuck in a very silly and ridiculous mindset about what work is, and why it has to happen during certain hours. I wish we could all stop caring about that trivial nonsense and get to a new idea of what work actually is and why and when it has to happen.

by Anonymousreply 93September 19, 2021 2:13 AM

[quote] Your doctor is a bit of a cunt [R89].

My doctor charges $130 for a breathless 10 minute chat. Do you know how much yours charges?

by Anonymousreply 94September 19, 2021 2:13 AM

no, r94, do you worship money and the rich?

by Anonymousreply 95September 19, 2021 2:14 AM

Our President talks about those who shirk responsibility, who shrug off their responsibilities because the taxpayers will be there 'in loco parentis' to pay the bills and do the responsible thing.

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by Anonymousreply 96September 19, 2021 2:21 AM

R92 Have you given her a coaching or a bad performance review? Does she know this issue bothers you and upsets the work flow for others? Or will you just surprise her at Christmas with a non-renewal?

I agree with you that performance matters a great deal in the workplace, but you should also be mindful that you're talking to people and telling them when they fuck up. She may honestly think there's no problem working asynchronously. And by the way, does this violate policy? Is she explicitly required to be available/working during set hours? If it's not written down somewhere, and no one's talked to her about it, she may not even know she's crossing a line.

It's a tricky part of remote work that people have to get used to. My office manager works from home, and I know she mostly works after her kids go to bed. She still comes to Teams meetings, and gets her work done, but I've had to remind her sometimes that some things cannot be done at 1am. Communication about expectations makes all the difference.

by Anonymousreply 97September 19, 2021 5:10 AM

Well, our president had put a stopper on this rancorous debate.

by Anonymousreply 98September 19, 2021 5:10 AM

R96 That dude hasn't been "our president" for almost five years. We've had two old dudes since him - an orange one and a vacant one.

by Anonymousreply 99September 19, 2021 5:12 AM

The Goddess Kamala will soon be our New President!

by Anonymousreply 100September 19, 2021 5:13 AM

R100 The FUNT is back, baby! The Fun Aunt who will buy you weed, and then arrest you for having that weed.

by Anonymousreply 101September 19, 2021 5:16 AM

I haven't teleworked since last year. Just to remind you bitches, it is a lot work to be on time at the office 5 days a week. Im on time everyday but I can understand people who are occasionally late, especially if you have kids. However there are always people in the office who are late every fucking day.

by Anonymousreply 102September 19, 2021 6:03 AM

[R97] I'm running a medium sized company and to be honest I don't think she's the right person for the job, although she interviewed well. The whole leaving early, taking time off, calling in sick thing was happening before we went into lockdown and now it's just completely out of control, because I didn't call her on it when it started. There were a lot of other things going on at the time and I was trying to work out how to get everyone set up for remote access.

Also, communication is a two way street and she has never asked me if it's ok that she does 2 hours work a day, leaves early every Friday or sends people into a panic with requests at 4:00pm. It's not violating policy but do people really need policies that are so detailed that they need to refer to them to work out when they have to work and how it might fit in with a team? Also, these things can turn into a legal nightmare and from my experience, I've never seen an employee who isn't working out suddenly do an about face and work effectively and within reasonable expectations after a performance review.

I can see what you're saying, but it isn't my role to coach a grown woman on how to work properly when I have plenty of other employees who have managed to work that out for themselves. She's the odd one out and so she's, well, out.

by Anonymousreply 103September 19, 2021 6:52 AM

R103 Of course, and you have background/history with this woman. Just be sure you're covered legally if she tries to claim you're being unfair or simply going after a poor single mother.

People don't need lengthy policies, no. But lawyers do. It prevents lawsuits.

Hope you can replace her easily. That seems to be very common these days, across the board.

by Anonymousreply 104September 19, 2021 6:59 AM

[quote]The Goddess Kamala will soon be our New President!

Dear God, no. The horror. Biden just has to hang on for a few more years. Then we'll be rid of this fool.

by Anonymousreply 105September 19, 2021 8:33 AM

R93 throws fits at the drive through when he has to wait for his supersize value meal......because none of the employees showed up on time.

by Anonymousreply 106September 19, 2021 8:41 AM

I am in my mid 60s and can count the number of times on one hand I've been late.

by Anonymousreply 107September 19, 2021 9:37 AM

[quote] It's not violating policy

Ok so it’s not a problem?

[quote] it isn't my role to coach a grown woman on how to work properly

Being her manager, isn’t that exactly your role? And if you’re too lazy to talk to her about it isn’t that an indication that you’re just…… not very good at your job?

by Anonymousreply 108September 19, 2021 3:16 PM

Sorry I'm late. I didn't want to come.

by Anonymousreply 109September 19, 2021 8:59 PM

How many of you work or have worked on a daily deadline?

When you have someone who is consistently late or calling out sick, it throws the whole balance off.

One manager told everyone she ***thought** she had cerebral palsy and would only work a half shift because she couldn’t stare at computer.

I’m sorry if you have kids/a consistently burning urethra/car problems/personal crises…do your effing job or everyone will hate you.

by Anonymousreply 110September 19, 2021 11:41 PM

The woman in the OP's link needs to be given a First Warning.

And then sacked after the Sixth Warning!

by Anonymousreply 111September 19, 2021 11:44 PM

My favorite generic is "Sorry, I'm running late today." It has the virtue of being true without actually explaining anything. It's an apology, but with an undercurrent of "I'm sure you won't make a big deal out of the trivial matter of my being late", setting the other person up to look like an asshole if they make an issue out of it.

by Anonymousreply 112September 19, 2021 11:52 PM

The cherry on this whole shit sundae is that in our culture these days, it's insanely easy to get out of things by simply being honest with people.

Kid's sick? Call and cancel the meeting.

Fell out of a crackhouse window and broke your coccyx? Call your boss and say so.

Going to be late? Call and say so.

People are so easily forgiven for these things if they give notice and communicate. It's only the assholes who give no warning that are actually assholes.

by Anonymousreply 113September 20, 2021 12:12 AM

Sorry I’m late. I got here as soon as I felt like it.

by Anonymousreply 114September 20, 2021 11:35 AM

One part of being a parent is preparing your kid for adult life. You are not doing your kid any favours by turning around halfway through your commute to go to their school because they’ve decided they are having a hard day and need a hug. The kid was not in danger. You could deal with whatever the problem was after school. I don’t believe this happened though. It’s just too trite.

by Anonymousreply 115September 20, 2021 12:43 PM

From reading the article, I cynically surmise that Mrs Olson-Kott was not prepared for the scheduled call and so punted the thing over to her colleagues. This nonsense about her child being in desperate need of a hug is nothing but an excuse and a risible one at that.

by Anonymousreply 116September 20, 2021 5:26 PM

Oh wait you needed me to reach out my hand to grab yours as you teetered at the edge of a cliff? I was your only hope of survival?

I’m sorry, I really am, but you see I got this funny meme and I had to share it with a friend. So life affirming. Life just happened! I’m sorry you’re dead at the bottom of the cliff.

by Anonymousreply 117September 20, 2021 5:29 PM

This whole “having it all” - career, kids, marriage, home- bullshit was swallowed hook, line and sinker back in in the 70s.

It always was, and still is, bullshit. Capitalism and sexism makes sure of that.

Hell, if you don’t want to take my word for it, a white, blonde, affluent married with kids woman with a law degree told me that back in the 90s, although I always knew that ; she just confirmed it for me.

“One , or more than one of those things, suffers” she said.

Even co- workers who have to deal with late co-workers suffer. And no, I’m not blaming women, men are to blame, too.

I always knew

by Anonymousreply 118September 20, 2021 5:45 PM

Oops meant to delete my last 3 words, as true as they are.

by Anonymousreply 119September 20, 2021 5:47 PM

[quote]These slovenly employee attitudes is what makes employers send their manufacturing overseas to China or some oth r slave state.

Seriously? Maybe it's the fifty cents per hour wages in unsafe conditions that is appealing in non first world countries.

As US workers we should be pissed at the 40+ hours per week requirements with 2 weeks off vacation time and minimal maternity and paternity time off. Japan is the only first world country that milks their employees for more hours.

by Anonymousreply 120September 20, 2021 6:16 PM

Work happens in real time and space and appointments do have time constraints. If you aren't there to run your meeting, present your content and if that is the purpose for a meeting or call, it's a problem. Not everyone can work from the "beach" or whenever they want or decide to show up. Little Susie's bad day tears aren't a reason for your coworker to have to do your job. Grow up and do your job. Furthermore, teach Susie that she needs to grow up and not cry just because she wants her way. Being late is rude for the people always covering your ass because you're not on time.

by Anonymousreply 121September 20, 2021 6:25 PM

I'll give Susie something to cry about!

by Anonymousreply 122September 21, 2021 4:46 PM
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