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No Doubt’s cover to Talk Talk’s “It’s My Life” is so much fucking better

Me and a group of friends just got into this argument when the original version was on in the restaurant and I said the No Doubt version is an improvement and better than the original, some of them couldn’t believe I said that while a couple agreed and said the 80s version was “shitty” and one said they’re both great.

Gwen’s vocals were superb in this, and they killed it. It’s better. Period.

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by Anonymousreply 103September 14, 2021 10:26 PM

The INFERIOR original

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by Anonymousreply 1September 8, 2021 11:36 PM

Both are "meh"

by Anonymousreply 2September 8, 2021 11:39 PM

The No Doubt version is whiny - original is much better.

by Anonymousreply 3September 8, 2021 11:40 PM

The original is much more atmospheric and sounds more ...mechanical. Something about the original sends a chill down my spine.

But...Gwen's vocal might sound good over the original instrumentation and backing vocals.

by Anonymousreply 4September 8, 2021 11:46 PM

[quote] Me and a group of friends just got into this argument

Are you millennials?

by Anonymousreply 5September 8, 2021 11:46 PM

R5 yes

by Anonymousreply 6September 8, 2021 11:48 PM

I like both versions. But if forced to choose, I'd opt for the Talk Talk version.

Talk Talk was a favorite group in the 80s and this was my favorite of their songs.

by Anonymousreply 7September 8, 2021 11:55 PM

I enjoy both!

by Anonymousreply 8September 9, 2021 12:00 AM

OP is an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 9September 9, 2021 12:16 AM

Love the ND video for this.

by Anonymousreply 10September 9, 2021 12:19 AM

OP is Stefani

by Anonymousreply 11September 9, 2021 12:52 AM

RIP Mark Hollis. OP should be ashamed of himself.

by Anonymousreply 12September 9, 2021 1:04 AM

OP is an ignorant heathen.

by Anonymousreply 13September 9, 2021 1:18 AM

I like No Doubt but their version is too whiny and one-note. Talk Talk’s version just washes over the listener so beautifully.

by Anonymousreply 14September 9, 2021 1:21 AM

It’s a good cover but doesn’t bring anything new to the song

by Anonymousreply 15September 9, 2021 1:25 AM

But Gwen looks like a cute Madonna Jr/Express Yourself version in the video.

by Anonymousreply 16September 9, 2021 1:29 AM

If Gwen Stefani could actually sing, this would be a different argument.

by Anonymousreply 17September 9, 2021 1:30 AM

Talk Talk is among my favorite bands of all time but No Doubt's version is remarkably faithful to the original while adding a more traditional rock sound. I prefer the 80s production though. That album had a really unique and otherworldly sound that was unlike anything out at the time. It's a must for fans of synth pop.

by Anonymousreply 18September 9, 2021 1:33 AM

The Original vs. The Cover – “It’s My Life”

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by Anonymousreply 19September 9, 2021 1:35 AM

The original, with the moving vocals by Mark Hollis, is a really interesting example of that time and genre of pop music. Even the video, made at a time when videos in general weren’t yet sophisticated, has aged well. Hollis seemed like a stand-up guy, a good dad, an more of an experimental musician who was very principled. I was sad to learn that he passed away in 2019. That song, the emotional quality of it, transports me back to my school-age years, all the things I struggled to figure out. It’s really a beautiful old song.

by Anonymousreply 20September 9, 2021 1:36 AM

I like both, but I prefer the original - I love synth pop and Mark Hollis' vocals. The ND video is a disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 21September 9, 2021 1:45 AM

The ND video is great and Gwen really was a great actress in it.

by Anonymousreply 22September 9, 2021 1:59 AM

Talk Talk waaay better.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 9, 2021 2:02 AM

Most millennials will prefer the No Doubt version, this song is up there with Crazy In Love, Toxic, etc in terms of early 2000s nostalgia

by Anonymousreply 24September 9, 2021 2:06 AM

I like both renditions of the song, but I hate both videos.

by Anonymousreply 25September 9, 2021 2:13 AM

TalkTalk’s version is far richer instrumentally and vocals. ND version is one of their weaker efforts.

by Anonymousreply 26September 9, 2021 2:21 AM

A group of my friends and I didn’t argue about it and agree the original is better.

by Anonymousreply 27September 9, 2021 2:29 AM

Op ewwdwin just makes threads about any stupid thing that pops in it’s fat head.

by Anonymousreply 28September 9, 2021 2:33 AM

The original is far better - no question about it.

by Anonymousreply 29September 9, 2021 2:37 AM

The OP video is vintage Erika Jayne

by Anonymousreply 30September 9, 2021 2:44 AM

She wasn’t channeling Madonna there. Ew. She was channeling Jean Harlow

by Anonymousreply 31September 9, 2021 2:48 AM

[quote] doesn’t bring anything new to the song

Other than the music video adding the overt text of the singer being a sociopathic serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 32September 9, 2021 2:50 AM

Best Gwen has ever looked, but she can't sing. She was filming The Aviator playing Jean Harlow around the time of this video.

by Anonymousreply 33September 9, 2021 2:55 AM

No Doubt Gwen's version sounds like it would be one of the better performances on Karaoke Night, but that's about it

by Anonymousreply 34September 9, 2021 2:56 AM

ND made the song their own while still being faithful to the original

by Anonymousreply 35September 9, 2021 2:57 AM

omg she is so busted....LOUSY

by Anonymousreply 36September 9, 2021 2:58 AM

Uh no. It has an interesting music video, but without the music video it's really just 'meh'. So decent many songs from the MTV era were artificially lifted by good music videos. Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel also comes to mind.

by Anonymousreply 37September 9, 2021 2:59 AM

Oh please. It’s great on the ears. It was a RADIO hit

by Anonymousreply 38September 9, 2021 3:01 AM

Comparing Talk Talk to No Doubt is like comparing The Beatles to Herman's Hermits.

by Anonymousreply 39September 9, 2021 3:01 AM

talktalk so dam awesome!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 40September 9, 2021 3:07 AM

I enjoyed both versions, but the original is better.

by Anonymousreply 41September 9, 2021 3:09 AM

This version was my very first personalized ring tone!

by Anonymousreply 42September 9, 2021 3:11 AM

R42 really? Mine was Hey Baby by ND

by Anonymousreply 43September 9, 2021 3:18 AM

Too much bass in the No Doubt version.

Video is stylish.

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by Anonymousreply 44September 9, 2021 3:31 AM

I like both versions. I esp. like the ND vid. The original is a bit like Roxy Music on steriods.

by Anonymousreply 45September 9, 2021 5:41 AM

Love Gwen and she is so much easier to look at than the twerp with stuck out ears.

by Anonymousreply 46September 9, 2021 5:58 AM

R27 I see what you did there.

by Anonymousreply 47September 9, 2021 6:49 AM

"A group of friends and I" is gramatically correct!

by Anonymousreply 48September 9, 2021 9:13 AM

R48 The OP Ewwdwin in Brooklyn is a fat illiterate moron.

by Anonymousreply 49September 9, 2021 9:21 AM

Guys the original lacks energy

by Anonymousreply 50September 9, 2021 10:56 AM

OP, No Doubt covering Talk Talk is like Sixpence None The Richer covering The La’s. Inexcusable, really.

by Anonymousreply 51September 9, 2021 11:18 AM

I like the original, and I really like the cover. The arrangement of the latter is just so lush. It takes me back to early 2004 and being on the road. My touring partner was a massive Gwen Stefani fan and The Singles album came out about that time.

by Anonymousreply 52September 9, 2021 11:40 AM

How anyone can stand to sit and listen to her irritating baby voice singing is beyond me. No Doubt's cover sucked because No Doubt sucked.

by Anonymousreply 53September 9, 2021 11:49 AM

I've often wondered how people like Gwen, Britney, Stevie et al. initially got record deals. Did execs mainly think that their prettiness would be the whole reason for investment, or did they suspect that their strange stuffy-nose, baby and bumblebee voices would catch on because they are so distinctive? All of them have lasted beyond their cute-ingenue years despite not having pretty voices, which seems both counterintuitive and reasonable in different ways.

by Anonymousreply 54September 9, 2021 11:58 AM

R54, You wondered how Steve Nicks got a record deal? ...

Really queen?

by Anonymousreply 55September 9, 2021 12:13 PM

R55 Yes, really. She has a strange voice. I know people love her voice and that it's 'legendary,' but I don't think it's an immediately likable voice and someone at some point had to decide she has a good sound. Most pop singers have a very standard vocal quality and she does not have that quality. Uniqueness is what makes an artist a standout, but that also usually counts against them insofar as executives buying into them in the music business until they make it big.

by Anonymousreply 56September 9, 2021 12:28 PM

Marry me R23! Talk Talk is my favorite.

by Anonymousreply 57September 9, 2021 12:51 PM

No Doubt’s version is kind of flat without real emotion. It feels like a show piece for retro starlet hair styling, not a honest tribute to the song. Close you eyes and listen to the original version with good ear buds or headphones. It takes you to another place. It's full of emotion and richness in music.

by Anonymousreply 58September 9, 2021 12:58 PM

^It's Muzak for grocery stores, basically. Just like that version of Roxy's "More Than This," which permeated grocery stores for a decade or more. I hope Bryan Ferry made a fortune off of it, but it's not much more than mildly annoying to listen to.

by Anonymousreply 59September 9, 2021 1:01 PM

R47 Thank you! I couldn’t stop myself.

by Anonymousreply 60September 9, 2021 1:08 PM

I love Gwen's voice. It always reminded me of Martha Davis from The Motels.

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by Anonymousreply 61September 9, 2021 3:25 PM

I love all the voices mentioned on here. They got record deals because their voices were different than what was on the radio at the time. When Britney got signed they said she had a distinct voice, and they liked that because when someone hears her on the radio they will know it’s Britney Spears without being told it’s her because they recognize her voice.

I’m sure the same can be said for others like Shakira and Gwen.

by Anonymousreply 62September 9, 2021 3:30 PM

Anyone can record a half-decent cover of a hit song. Not impressed.

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by Anonymousreply 63September 9, 2021 4:13 PM

That Hollis solo cd and the last 2 Talk Talk discs are viturally unknown masterpieces. It's such a shame (to coin a phrase) that Hollis didn't do anything after Watershed, it was nearly 30 years ago...

by Anonymousreply 64September 9, 2021 4:37 PM

Yeah, who was it that covered More Than This? Was it Dani Minogue? It was somebody lame like that.

by Anonymousreply 65September 9, 2021 4:40 PM

For the record, I would just like to state that Gwen Stefani screeching It’s My Life is NOT music.

by Anonymousreply 66September 9, 2021 4:42 PM

Back in the 90s, I had to import Mark's solo CD as you couldn't find it anywhere in America.

by Anonymousreply 67September 9, 2021 4:48 PM

[quote]but I don't think it's an immediately likable voice and someone at some point had to decide she has a good sound. Most pop singers have a very standard vocal quality and she does not have that quality.

One might say the same about Grace Slick, I guess? She didn't seem to have a standard voice either. Polydor seemed to like Nicks' voice pre-Fleetwood Mac. And then Fleetwood Mac came along, who were already pre-established. And then, of course, her solo career flowed out of that. And it didn't hurt that she had songwriting skills. I guess it was weird to see her grouped with Britney Spears who came up thirty years later and was more manufactured by a committee of executives and marketed in a much different way.

by Anonymousreply 68September 9, 2021 4:51 PM

R67, yep I had to buy a copy from the UK someplace, and I knew 2 guys who owned record stores at the time. I've lived in a big music town for 30 years and have only had 2 friends who ever mentioned Talk Talk or M. Hollis at all.

by Anonymousreply 69September 9, 2021 5:13 PM

Both songs kind of go no where but the original RECORDING is better in my opinion. The cover's MUSIC VIDEO, however, is more impressive.

by Anonymousreply 70September 9, 2021 7:04 PM

Gwen Stefani never improved anything.

by Anonymousreply 71September 9, 2021 7:19 PM

R71 well she made Gavin Rossdale stop sucking Marilyn's girldick

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by Anonymousreply 72September 9, 2021 7:33 PM

Do you consider that an improvement, R72? I'm sure Gavin doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 73September 9, 2021 7:39 PM

I don't care for either version. I also don't think that just because something was the original, it was superior.

by Anonymousreply 74September 9, 2021 10:05 PM

R74 100%

by Anonymousreply 75September 9, 2021 10:06 PM

^^Case in point: I prefer Lauryn Hill's "Killing me Softly" to Roberta Flack's.

by Anonymousreply 76September 9, 2021 10:07 PM

R76 it’s a much better song, agree. Also, Whitney’s “I Will Always Love You” to Dolly’s

by Anonymousreply 77September 9, 2021 10:09 PM

He speaks like Lizsha

by Anonymousreply 78September 9, 2021 10:16 PM

Original is so much better. ND sounds like bad karaoke

by Anonymousreply 79September 9, 2021 10:17 PM

No Doubt later massacred yet another new wave classic: Stand and Deliver. Adam Ant's version was fucking perfect, while ND's take on it was barf-inducing.

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by Anonymousreply 80September 9, 2021 10:25 PM

I’ve always found No Doubt so interesting.

Starting in 1995 with “Tragic Kingdom” they became big and household names, and the album went to #1 but none of the singles were big despite always being on the radio. Don’t Speak didn’t even crack the Hot 100 (despite hitting #1 on the Top 40 airplay songs). Yet it’s a song everyone knows and remembers and is still played today.

Their first Hot 100 top 10 was “Hey Baby”, peaking at 5 and it won them their first Grammy. They became Uber mainstream after that song.

All very interesting.

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by Anonymousreply 81September 9, 2021 10:36 PM

"Hey Baby" was riding on that Teen Pop wave. It feels like a sellout type of song, much like The Black Eyed Peas' work around that period.

by Anonymousreply 82September 9, 2021 10:52 PM

No doubt had one good/decent song, “don’t speak” and I think it was just pure luck.

by Anonymousreply 83September 9, 2021 10:54 PM

R82 I was actually gonna say most of their fans felt they sold out with that album. It was their biggest period besides their 2003 greatest hits album.

Maroon 5 fans say they sold out with Moves Like Jagger

by Anonymousreply 84September 9, 2021 10:56 PM

Gwen’s “What You Waiting For?” Is more interesting than anything No Doubt did

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by Anonymousreply 85September 9, 2021 11:24 PM

[quote] Don’t Speak didn’t even crack the Hot 100 (despite hitting #1 on the Top 40 airplay songs).

That's only because Billboard had always insisted that a song had to have an actual commercial release as a single in order to be included on the Hot 100.

By the mid 90's, the single was all but dead. A lot of newer acts didn't bother to release singles at that point. Why bother, when you could put out a video, promote the song to radio the same as if it were a single, have it become a hit anyway, and force people to buy the whole CD if they wanted to own it?

That's why there are a number of huge hits from that era that never appeared on the Hot 100. It doesn't make them any less of a hit. It just means that Billboard was a bit behind the times by stubbornly clinging to the concept of the single, while the industry was moving away from it. They eventually changed their rules in 1998.

by Anonymousreply 86September 10, 2021 2:32 AM

[quote] I love Gwen's voice. It always reminded me of Martha Davis from The Motels.

You're insane, or deaf, or something. There's got to be an explanation for such a strange statement.

by Anonymousreply 87September 10, 2021 9:27 AM

Talk Talk defined a genre. No Doubt just copied.

by Anonymousreply 88September 11, 2021 3:21 AM

Even as a No Doubt "doubter", I concede that they were better than a lot of shitty 90s ska acts. Gwen's solo has always been awful and she's basically a republican now.

by Anonymousreply 89September 11, 2021 3:23 AM

Gwen grew up in Orange County, no wonder she's become Trumpian in her theft of other people's work.

by Anonymousreply 90September 13, 2021 6:31 AM

Must be a generational thing. The original reeks of the 80s. Too much keyboard.

by Anonymousreply 91September 13, 2021 6:57 AM

The original reeks of originality R91. You don't like it, no big deal but you miss the point entirely. It's like saying that rap song is too wordy.

by Anonymousreply 92September 13, 2021 7:08 AM

R54 They were all attractive white blonde women. It's not really hard to figure out that record companies are willing to overlook a less marketable voice if it's attached to a thin, blonde, white woman. Black women (and Adele) have always had to be x10 as talented.

by Anonymousreply 93September 13, 2021 7:24 AM

R93 Not if you have the right last name.

by Anonymousreply 94September 13, 2021 7:47 AM

This is a waste of my time. The original is WAAAAAAAAAAAY better! Fuck off, you tone deaf faggots!

by Anonymousreply 95September 13, 2021 7:50 AM

R95 I'm not surprised that many on DL like the cover with the female vocals. There is a certain segment of gay men that only recognize female diva types as legitimate singers.

by Anonymousreply 96September 13, 2021 7:54 AM

The only losers who prefer the cover are the Ed/wins of the world.

by Anonymousreply 97September 13, 2021 7:58 AM

No r96. It's that these songs are the "soundtrack" of our high school years. (If you lived in Los Angeles.) Most people relate to their teens through music.

For instance, I don't relate to Elton John, because he was before my awareness to pop music. I can't stand his music and It was only a few years prior to the British new wave invasion (in fact, he overlapped.)

by Anonymousreply 98September 13, 2021 8:02 AM

I've read many sad things on DL, but r98 writing off the essential works of Elton John just because they born a few years after the classic music was released is truly worthy of feeling pity for them

by Anonymousreply 99September 13, 2021 12:54 PM

Sure, grandpa @r92. Shall I get the hell off your lawn, too?

80s music has a very particular style that I don't think has aged well at all. I listen to music from just about every decade from the 60s forward, but the 80s are a black hole for me. It's plastic and fake.

by Anonymousreply 100September 14, 2021 7:20 PM

While I don't hate the cover, I find the original more atmospheric. The one thing I really hate about the cover though is that instrumental "dun-dun-dun" that comes out of nowhere after the chorus. It feels like it becomes a different song altogether from the intrusion.

by Anonymousreply 101September 14, 2021 7:50 PM

1985 I'm a closeted gay teenager walking down a high school hallway after getting sent to the principals office for saying my math teacher was full of it after he said Portuguese kids don't go to high school and drop out in the forth grade. He clearly didn't understand how the school system works in Portugal.

I spot Clayton, the epitome of New Wave high school boy with his painters pants and Depeche Mode t-shirt standing at his locker, wearing headphones and singing along to the original Talk Talk version of this song.

I stop and watch him in awe of his openness and fearlessness at being himself. He turns around and spots me and starts singing even louder and dancing with a huge grin on his face.

I smile and keep walking and as I pass him he shouts out, "I'll make you a mix tape. You'll fucking love it!"

I still have that tape to this day. The only other thing I have from my high school days is the grade 10 year book because there's a big picture of Clayton standing in the middle of a bunch of girls and they're all blowing kisses to the camera.

Needless to say this song holds a special place in my heart.

by Anonymousreply 102September 14, 2021 10:16 PM

No Doubt simply copied the original, note for note, except with Gwen singing. Why are we even talking about this?

by Anonymousreply 103September 14, 2021 10:26 PM
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