Harry's book deal is for 4 books, one of which is set to slate the Queen after she's dead

Buckingham Palace just needs to come out and say that James Hewitt is Harry's real father and their problems with him will be solved. Bastard son. Not ours.

"The deal will see a memoir released next year – when it is the Queen’s platinum jubilee – with the second book to be held back until after her death.

Harry’s wife Meghan is to pen a ‘wellness’ guide as part of the contract with Penguin Random House. The subject and author of the fourth title is unknown."

Imagine my shock.

Imagine making business deals and sitting in a boardroom telling strangers things like "I want to write this but I only want people to be able to read it after my beloved Granny is cold in the ground and can't answer all the shit I'm planning on piling onto her [unsaid: because she's rich and I still want titles and money from her]."

After the queen dies... a "Granny Dearest" book?

He's as trashy and thirsty as that mother of his. Noble birth doesn't buy you class, no siree!

[R4] "I can't wait to read it!"

"I can't wait to read it!"

Harry is not one of the Queen's FAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wrote this in the other thread but I bet that the books will serve as the basis for a Netflix series like The Crown. That certainly would be worth a lot of money. He and Meghan could live the rest of their lives off from the proceeds of this trash!

[quote] He and Meghan could live the rest of their lives off from the proceeds of this trash!

That's the plan, r9. Better than working for a living.

By what process do illiterate people writer books?

So I'm guessing the Windsor christening with the Queen in attendance is off the table?

@r1, James Hewitt is NOT Harry's father, James Hewitt is Rick Astley's father...

Regarding the publisher bidding auction Harry held:

"Two publishers flew out from London to see him and others took part in the ‘auction’ by video call, sources say.

‘He conducted negotiations – he had a very “take it or leave it” attitude,’ said an impeccably-placed source in the publishing industry.

‘His starting price was $25million (£18m) and the final figure was way north of that, possibly as much as $35-40million (£25-29m).

‘Those involved were actually very shocked by his approach, which was to look at them coldly and state his demands: $25million.

‘In Britain, publishing is still a rather “gentlemanly” industry. It’s high stakes, but is still conducted in very genteel terms.’

The first book only comes out next year, although it's completed, to enable Harry to extort the family in the meantime.

The second book is designed to be an longer extortion bid as well:

"But what is most shocking, frankly, is Harry’s suggestion that the second book won’t be published until the Queen is no longer here.

‘People [will] start asking, naturally: what has he got, who is he going to target?

‘The very idea of this unexploded bomb, hanging about waiting for the Queen to pass, is just extraordinary and may strike many as being in very bad taste.’

Be afraid...be very afraid....

Meghan had better wear an extra seat belt. That skinny bitch has corrupted what passes for this moron's pickled brain!

Bringing home the bacon. Good on him.

Harry has become a proper scumbag.

He signed this book deal last year and has the fucking GALL to make demands of his family about titles and christenings?

He's like the opposite of the former Prince of Monaco.

That dude married a glamorous and charitable Oscar winner, brought her to his European palace, and had the dignity to rule his casino empire in restrained silence.

Harry married an also-ran from the USA Network, moved with her to Oprah's guest house, and is selling cheap tell-all books to support his crooked charity.

Are that many people interested in Harry?

^^He has R19. I used to like him, but he's turned into a lousy human being. Maybe he had it in him all the time, and the worst was brought out in him.

I love it how he recently stated that he didn’t realize that he had PTSD until he entered therapy. That’s not how it works, dummy.

I don’t follow these folks. I DID had a positive view of them. Though. The death of his mum. Young, in love, finding their way together.

Now I really dislike the both of them. Not that this revelation will keep them up at night. Too bad the both turned into such sour apples.

[quote] ‘Those involved were actually very shocked by his approach, which was to look at them coldly and state his demands: $25million.

[quote] ‘In Britain, publishing is still a rather “gentlemanly” industry. It’s high stakes, but is still conducted in very genteel terms.’

So since Lady C has written books, I am hoping she has some juicy tidbits from her publishing contacts.

As for "gentlemanly", I don't think anyone has used that word to describe Haz.

So, if book 1 is a flop, what happens with the rest of the deal?

I presume the deal still stands, flop or not, r25

No, r21. They are interested in royal dirt, scandal, and revelations.

Harry is poised to tell what he saw, heard, and was told by his brother or mother about his father's infidelity with Camilla. What life was like with a sobbing bulimic Diana. How the sons were treated by Dodi and his father (yacht trips, e.g.). What he thought about his grandmother's response to the death of his mother. Whose idea was the casket card with "Mummy." What was said in the BRF during those days.

As for W&K, what does Harry know?

Anything he did that was cringe-worthy or worse, Harry will put down to PTSD, from Diana's unexpected death.

As for his hard-ball money tactics, so? That's the Western world's lingua franca, is it not?

Please, r27. Harry will just make shit up to suit his victimhood brand.

So he’s basically selling the only thing remotely interesting about him, at the expense of family and sense of loyalty. All for what? A few years keeping up with billionaires? How many family lies can he invent and still be able to look at himself in the mirror? His newfound friends, surely they don’t trust someone who sells out his own family for money?

Meghan lifestyle book? Is she going to include chapters about how to abandon rescue dogs one has adopted? Or chapter on how not to coddle staff because it’s not her job as boss? List goes on and on for the sort of thirsty lifestyle that the z-lister can teach others.

"Meghan had better wear an extra seat belt. That skinny bitch has corrupted what passes for this moron's pickled brain! "

Why? Is the Queen still "greasing the brakes" like she did to Harry's mother

Someone needs to get a blazing hot poker and ram it up his crusty shitter

R23 indeed that’s not how it works, and it sounds like his therapist is a quack if he/she is helping clients discover their own PTSD where none existed previously. Kind of like those loony bin past life/ regression “therapists”. Man, he’s fallen way off the deep end.

Vol 1 : MUM DIES

Vol 2 : MUM DIES

Vol 3 : MUM DIES

Vol 4: NAKED IN VEGAS

[quote]Another part of his deal includes a "wellness book" from Meghan

Meghan seems pretty unwell mentally.

So he left the Royal Family to gain much-desired privacy for himself, his wife and children, and intends to fund his lavish life by invading the privacy of the family which has always done so much to make him seem like a much better person than he actually is. How nice.

Who woulda thought that little girl from LA could bring down the House of Windsor?

Dream on, r36.

The only people being brought low are the Harkles, by their own actions.

With every "revelation" Harry and Meghan only make the BRF more popular.

They're on a popularity streak the likes of which they haven't seen since the 1950's right now.

They're going to have a little "accident" well before the Queen dies.

When He has sold his father’s and his brother’s privacy to the highest bidder, when every story has been embroidered to make himself look good, when Meghan leaves with the financial proceeds (and his children) and the celebrity circus decides it’s time to change the narrative and turn him into a late-night punchline, I hope this fool has enough insight to realise what a dishonourable idiot he has been and how he has turned his own life into rubble.

Harry writes a book. Please. Harry could barely get out of high school without having the school administration falsify his true grades.

Charles wanted to cut the budget and reduce the size of the monarchy. Very short sighted.

This is the result.

One word: shameless.

If this is true, and I tend to doubt anything put out from these gruesome assholes, there is no low.

The so-called wellness book will be M raving about how perfect she is and tons of merching. She's probably soliciting higher end brands for the "honor" to be in her book.

I loved the comment on twitter about how Harry's book will come with crayons to color in the illustrations.

Harry couldn't write 4 books to save his fucking life. He's a moron.

R41, Harry was always planned to be an important part of the inner core of the Royal Family. It was Edward, Sophie and Anne who were to be downgraded. And the latter all accepted this with good grace and little fuss.

Charles has many faults, but he tried to be a good father, and seemed to have a good relationship with Harry until recently. Indeed, he showed great eagerness to welcome Meghan into the fold, literally walking her down the aisle to marry his son, and escorting her mother out of the church at the end of the ceremony . He must be living through hell, to get to his seventies and to realise that his son despises him, and will apparently stop at nothing to hurt him.

What does that say that no one gives a shit about him unless he is slagging off his family? And even less about the wife without her connection to him?

You can see the slime coating this beady-eyed asshole.

It's long past time to strip these two lying grifters of their styles and titles. We don't use titles in the U.S.

I seriously doubt those figures. They probably have it in their contracts that they can inflate the actual dollar amount and no one is allowed to correct them.

A wellness book….if only someone had asked if she was ok…

That’s lots of money for someone, who can barely write his name. How much the real writer will get? 110K?

What happened to their leaving the BRF for "privacy"?

Meg wants to be relevant and work in movies, this is not a good time to be a private family.

Get 'em, Harry. No ones going to treat our Harry like a red-headed step child again

I'm not buying this at all. These two are notorious for making themselves seem more important than they are. Complete bullshit.

Tacky, tacky, tacky...

I'll wait a week and pick the books up at Dollar Tree with my pound cake.

No one gave this idiot that much money to write four books. Their jealousy and vindictiveness won't allow them to enjoy their life with their new baby. Pathetic and sad.

This is seriously unattractive and emasculating, not that I've ever like gingers anyways.

The money is a fig leaf, the goal all along has been to take down his family and burn it all to the ground. Harry is a front for other interests. The danger posed by the Narkles is not inconsiderable.

[quote] Harry married an also-ran from the USA Network, moved with her to Oprah's guest house,

They never lived with Oprah. Where in the hell did you come up with that bullshit?

What a piece of shit he turned out to be.

Are we surprised at this level of tacky disloyalty? Uh….his wife ghosted friends and family members except for the black mother who’s useful to trot out from time to time. None of her other black relatives are close either. He’s a jealous ne’er do well who’d likely be Harry the lorry driver had he not benefited from fortune of birth.

Are we also shocked at the extent of their smarmy hypocrisy? I mean, this is a couple who preach environmentalism while flying on private jets.

Surely we don’t bat an eye at the depths of their depravity anymore? Remember, these two cunts shamelessly do performative acts of charity for publicity. Hiring fashion photographer to snap photos in veterans cemetery. Hiring own paps to document random visits to charitable events.

For a couple of putrid, empty souls who faked lamenting about privacy, they sure have zero fucks to give about privacy of Harry’s family. Waiting until granny croaks to reveal more lies? Are they waiting so that granny would be shielded from having to endure the shit show? How very kind of them.

Hey Friar Tuck, your brother will still be king, your wife is social climbing trash, and no one likes you other than your paid bots.

He always has been, R61, off since he was a tiny child, Diana used to complain @ him to her own psychiatrist. Don't breed with nutters with raging in their genetic code.

R57 That's it. He has his wife, the love of his life, their beautiful kids, big fancy house, neither of them have do any work, but...what's wrong with them? Their image (in Ireland and the UK) is awful, rock bottom. Don't know what it's like in the US.

Enjoy your life now, Harry. Nothing can change the past (call Oprah, she's good with this stuff)

HARRY, HUSH!!

[quote]Their image (in Ireland and the UK) is awful, rock bottom. Don't know what it's like in the US.

In the US, they're D-List celebrities who most people don't care about.

I feel sorry for the kids..

He is profoundly damaged.

Of his own making I might add.

They are hokey and boring. People love train wrecks, though.

Beautiful kids? DL called Archie a potato.

[quote] Harry writes a book. Please. Harry could barely get out of high school without having the school administration falsify his true grades.

Most celeb biographies are written by someone else. Do you really think idiot celebs write their own books?

I think it’s time all the BRF fans stop blaming her. Water seeks its own level and he is obviously as big a POS as she is.

Not sure why he isn’t stripped of everything and cut off completely. It should be a wrap for him as far as his family goes.

[quote] I love it how he recently stated that he didn’t realize that he had PTSD until he entered therapy. That’s not how it works, dummy.

That's how it works a lot of the time. What do you think happens? The person diagnoses themselves and to the doc and says, give me these meds, I have "PTSD", I have "bipolar", "I'm schizophrenic"? It may happen sometimes, but a lot of the time the people act erratically, get into trouble, feel terrible. All kinds of stuff

I worked at a V.A Hospital and half the soldiers didn't realize they had PTSD. The only way to know if you have PTSD is to talk to a mental health care provider.

At least that's what the department of Psychiatry at UCLA says. But what the fuck do they know? They only went to medical school and did studies on this. You're a psychiatrics expert, with an M.D from Googling shit and magazine articles

I've already pre-ordered all four, can't wait to get them

You're not adding Megdusa's wellness book? Bad megaloon!

If the Queen lives to be 101-102 like her mom, then it’ll be another 5-6 years until the second book comes out. By then they’ll be viewed as embarrassing mid-40-something talentless hangers on, parasites who cling onto celebrity/ bigwig circuit.

If I were the Obamas I’d be wary of being associated or compared to the grifting couple.

Why announce this now? He's giving the BRF a year to pay them off. Otherwise, I picture a Koresh-style end to all this at Montecito Manor.

As long as they take Oprah and the plastic gremlin with them, r78.

Pull up the drawbridge and make all communication through lawyers

The Monteshitto lying ex-royal grifters are utter gutter trash beyond what anyone imagined.

Was this timed to clash with Prince George's birthday?

[quote]Their image (in Ireland and the UK) is awful, rock bottom. Don't know what it's like in the US.

R65. Their image here in the U.S. isn't much different. They are trash...overexposed trash who people now disregard as liars and grifters who will tear down anything and everyone including their families and the monarchy for money. They want privacy, my ass.

Wow. They're really pissed that the kids won't have "proper" titles.

They’ve got to keep the income stream coming in, the amount of money needed to hang with the super wealthy set is enormous. I remember hearing an interview about moguls. One of the stories was about a couple who had fallen on hard times when the husband’s finance company folded. The husband couldn’t cope with the sudden drop in living standard, saying something like “I just don’t know how we could deal with having just $200 million that we’re left with now, I can’t deal with that thought.”

Harry and Meghan are on a power trip high right now. They think just because they’d secured some deals, that they’re untouchable and golden moving forward. But it’s a slippery slope living in that kind of mindset and environment. You end up needing, wanting more and more. Money and status supplant personal relationships. They become empty, soulless vessels in the end.

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“ He and Meghan could live the rest of their lives off from the proceeds of this trash!”

You underestimate Meghan’s ability to spend money.

There is no rivalry. The Harkle freakshows aren't in the same league as W&K and never will be.

That ship is shinking.

Is it really necessary to broadcast every fucking detail anytime they supposedly earn a buck? Every day, they have to leak some shit to stay relevant. The level of insecurity is mind-blowing.

He's a nitwit being manipulated by a scheming bitch.

Seriously, what do you think the media in the UK is going to do about this? It seems a bit smarmy, I don't know how they're gonna be able to put a positive spin on the obviously grave merching. Or is the BRF really that much hated by its citizens?

A 95 year old woman (or man) shouldn't have to go through this shit...toward the end of their life.

[quote] Or is the BRF really that much hated by its citizens?

No, it’s not. William, Kate & the Queen remain very popular.

The fact that this despicable little man and his whore wife have already lined up a way of making money once his “beloved” grandmother is dead is reprehensible beyond words and won’t endear them to anyone.

If he hates the monarchy so much, he should not be part of it. I genuinely think the time has come to remove him from the line of succession & take the dukedom.

Harry's reps have come out and said it's a one book deal. So the daily mail just lied in an article. That article has demented white women calling for Meghan and Harry to be hung for treason. Removed from the line of succession. Meghan is a fucking nasty witch. And Harry is a traitorous cunt who needs to be taken care of. According to them. The UK tabloids are pushing the nutters into making death threats. And they will be doing this daily. The Brf is sanctioning the insanity. What absolute psychopathic nutters.

One book but with possible options for more perhaps?

A publicist would never lie...

R95, but has he threatened to sue?

See how you move the goalposts. It was a lie. End of. They printed it knowing it was a lie. And that's who the trolls repeatedly link. Made up articles by a rightwing tabloid. This is a sanctioned takedown and it's army is a group of carefully groomed elderly and mentally ill women online. It's sinister as hell. They might write more books. But now it becomes a sinister waiting for nana to die so they can make money thing.

R99, neither Harry nor the Daily Mail have stainless reputations for truthfulness.

How would this be handled if just any old Joe made serial threats of extortion to the BRF? I wouldn't expect to last more than six seconds, before MI6 tossed a grenade down my throat.

Harry is a leach, and a liability. Cut him loose.

Let's see Harry sue the DM, and then the DM can call in Penguin/Random House, with which the DM has a long and profitable historical relationship, as witnesses in the case.

Of course, Harry won't sue the DM because this is entirely true and it's Sunshine Sachs who is, as usual, lying.

Let me get this straight. Harry does not have PTSD from killing people for 10 years. He has it from cameras flashing, receiving lines, visiting countries as a good will ambassador and walking behind his mother's coffin at age 12. Working the room as a prince and being in the public eye turned him into a lousy student, a drunk, a playboy and a druggie. Not his fault. No sir.

Harry has completely taken the spotlight off Meghan. His job is to spew the poison post-Oprah; hers is to become a lifestyle brand and role model for girls. (Marry well, little ones.)

Speaking of moving the goalpost R99, how’s that fleeing royal life in the name of privacy working out? Goalpost for privacy has now not only merely moved neighborhoods but migrated continents, so to speak.

Harry and Meghan are nearing 40. The desired viewer demographic (45 and under) aren't really interested in he and Meghan and besides they spilled all the good stuff already. So who is the audience for this? Half of it will be dead by the time these books are published.

R95 they did not say that it was one book deal, they said that only one book was “in the works” if we’re talking about the same denial, and I’ve seen only one, in Town&Country (which is surprising - the level of bullshit in the Sussexes statement must be off the charts if even People didn’t want to touch it).

Meghan is waiting for the divorce for her big pay day for an autobiography. That way she keeps all the money and splits his. He’s a fool, but he is evil too.

I could see interest in the US for the first book, not beyond. Her book might get some play. Overall, I don’t think they’re interesting enough to stay in the limelight. They’re already quite one note as it is. R45, I don’t think that’s their desired demo. I think they know most people under 30 don’t give a shit. Their demo is definitely women 40 and up.

Anyway, as we already learned, with the Sussexes denials mean nothing, will they or won’t they sue, that’s the real question.

Stripping their titles would give them more publicity and they’d go to town portraying the RF as the bad guys. The more they whine and lie, the more idiotic they look to the public. A pair of permanently aggrieved, privileged cunts. Not a good look for aging, wannabe influencers.

I’m in the minority in thinking that they shouldn’t get their titles stripped. It feeds into their self-serving, victim narrative. Stripping the titles also makes the RF appear to be afraid of the tacky pair’s threats and lies. I think the RF should answer any false stories put out by the Sussexes, but play it like they’re above the despicable couple.

^^Strip them of their titles, and let the chips fall where they may. They don't deserve titles, and they have nothing to do with the royal family now anyway. Strip them of their titles. They have to be held accountable for their actions. They need to be punished so it stings hard.

What would Harry's response be for waiting to write a second book after Queen Elizabeth dies? There is no good or honorable response.

Harry is a slimy piece of shit. But he should be asked the question. What's the point? What is his end game? His motive is to do severe damage to an institution from which he wants to make money. The mere notion of announcing that a book would come out after the queen dies is nothing short of evil, and sinister. Harry and Markle are sick and diabolical. Strip them of their titles now.

[quote]Why? Is the Queen still "greasing the brakes" like she did to Harry's mother

One can only hope.

Their home in Montecito would be a vacation bungalow to their 'friends' with serious money.

[quote]What would Harry's response be for waiting to write a second book after Queen Elizabeth dies? There is no good or honorable response.

R111. I wish a reporter would ask the question and then watch Harry squirm to answer.

In what way does stripping him of his title feed into a “victim narrative”? No one needs a title...no one.

If he tries to paint himself as a fucking “victim” because he can’t be a duke anymore the entire world will laugh at him.

Best thing - not even the race-baiters can complain. Taking Harry out of the line of succession doesn’t have the effect of removing Merchie or Lil-Lets...they’d just move up a spot.

I think the BRF have precisely nothing to lose by kicking this tosser out and everything to gain.

R28, I doubt it. I think the truth, the raw reality, as he actually lived, saw, and heard it will suffice. I mean, that which is already known by the public is startling, such as Charles's memorable "tampon" metaphor, or HM's reluctance to lower the flag for Diana.

Or do you think Harry has a fiction-writer's imagination and talent? I don't. Does his ghost-writer? Maybe to add a bit of embellishment.

"....in him and Meghan," r105. HIM.

After the way his father and grandmother tortured Diana, Harry is right to give it back to them any way he can.

And that goes double for Camilla.

Nobody “tortured” Diana, you idiot. She was a fucking nightmare....a bit like that grubby cunt he married.

R118 is the most sensible comment on this thread. The H&M haters are unhinged.

R109 Strip the titles and end this once and for all. You are right, they may get a deal of sympathy at first, but it will blow over and then they will be nothing more than ex royales.

[quote]Nobody “tortured” Diana, you idiot. She was a fucking nightmare....

A nightmare? No.

She was young and foolishly accepted the marriage proposal of a man who did not love her and did not want her. A man who only felt duty bound to marry a well-bred virgin and who used Diana to tick off his royal boxes with no thought at all about her well-being. His family cared nothing about her, either. She was just to accept orders, perform as directed, and live her life as a royal brood mare bowing and scraping and expressing her gratitude for her nice clothes.

Go, Harry!

What celebrity would hobnob with Harry now with the implied threat of him sometime in the future writing a tell-all about you? He'll probably write one about how Oprah exploited him.

R118 Oh do shut up, you clueless idiot. I know American eduction isn’t the greatest but I wish they’d teach you people the difference between documentaries and fictional TV dramas.

Diana was a lying, cheating, bunny boiling narcissist who faked many suicide attempts for attention. Her youngest son was considered to have learning difficulties (aka retarded) at school & only managed his art a’level by getting a teacher to do it for him.

He’s scum and so is his skank wife. Their first temper tantrum only impressed morons (aka...you) and this next one have even less of an impact.

Will the second book be about Granny? An intimate portrait “humanizing” the woman behind the throne, etc etc

r124 for the win.

"I know American eduction isn’t the greatest "

*eduction?*

Hahahahaha! Proving once again that Brits are the dumbest cunts on the face of the earth

Who cares?

[R74] Fuck off you self-righteous twat. PTSD is a serious disorder with cognitive and behavioral symptoms. You don’t just waltz into your therapist’s office after your lunch date to discover that you suffer from the same level of trauma as the survivors or Auschwitz or Nagasaki.

[R74] Perhaps you're unaware that PTSD diagnoses are currently fashionable in the celebrity community. As is Lady GaGa and Ricky Martin, neither of them war vets, both claim to suffer from it. It's a new status symbol for rich Drama Queens. I very much doubt that Harry visits the kind of therapist who works with war vets and war zone survivors. I very much doubt he can't sleep through nightmares of charred flesh, flying shrapnel, rotting corpses and dismembered babies. I doubt he has flashbacks of being gang raped and burned with cigarettes while sipping his morning orange juice.

Get real.

Harry’s PTSD from his family that he said would be “the family that Meghan never had”. Shortly thereafter he’s turned his back on his family in the same way that Meghan has long done the same to her own family. The couple bring out the worst in each other, Meghan has managed to switch on Harry’s worst qualities and now he’s off. He’s now the worse of the two cunts in the relationship.

You can have PTSD from growing up in an abusive family. You go to a therapist because you seek help for a particular destructive behavior and you learn the cause is PTSD, What does this have to do with Harry? Nothing. He's a spoiled brat.

In 2024, Harry will find Jesus as he and Meghan are divorcing and he'll write a book about it. It will be an expose on the Church of England, of which his grandmother is the High Priestess.

[R132] PTSD, aka "shellshock", was once upon a time a term applied almost exclusively to soldiers and people who survived war zones and war-related trauma. Only recently has it expanded to encompass the "traumas" of people like Prince Harry, Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin. Growing up in an abusive family may indeed send one into therapy but it's not the same "PTSD" as it's been traditionally understood.

R134 I agree that the diagnosis of PTSD has been highjacked and watered down by celebutards who are now at the forefront of the mental wellness movement for publicity reasons. Growing up in an unloving or messed up family doesn’t cause a person to have PTSD. PTSD as related to family is almost always tied to abuse.

I still remember one of my earliest jail psych patients, a drug dealer in his early 20s whom I’d interviewed for his first ever mental health exam. Classic PTSD, with regular nightmares, flashbacks, the dude was full on bawling by the time he opened up about his addict mom abusing him and his little brother, including burning them with hot pans (he had scars to show for it).

If Harry tries to imply that he has trauma and/ or PTSD from his childhood then he’s doing a disservice to mental health and mental disorders. He and most of the celebs jumping on the mental well-being bandwagon have done nothing but trivialize real mental health disorders. You can have normal problems with work, your family/ relationships, and your life in general without medicalizing them unnecessarily.

[R135] Thanks for a brilliant post.

R135 I agree. PTSD has certain elements which need to be present and distinguish it from general trauma. Usually emanates from a particular traumatic event

A friend was diagnosed with PTSD after growing up in a family in which he was beaten, sexually abused, humiliated and constantly ridiculed and berated. This was almost 20 years ago. Applying it to non-soldiers is not a new thing. His therapist had worked with refugees who had been tortured so he knew his stuff. Per the American Psychiatric Association, "PTSD has been known by many names in the past, such as “shell shock” during the years of World War I and “combat fatigue” after World War II, but PTSD does not just happen to combat veterans. PTSD can occur in all people, of any ethnicity, nationality or culture, and at any age. PTSD affects approximately 3.5 percent of U.S. adults every year, and an estimated one in 11 people will be diagnosed with PTSD in their lifetime. Women are twice as likely as men to have PTSD."

Again, what does this have to do with Harry? Nothing.

[R138] It means that the definition of PTSD has been broadened for commercial interests.

R139, if it was broadened for commercial interests, it was over 20 years ago. You are misinformed. Deal.

R134. I have been treating victims of child abuse who have PTSD for the past 25 years. Whether someone was abused or fought in a war matters not; one must meet a certain criteria of symptoms. The DSM added PTSD in 1980 and there was no requirement that one had to be exposed to military-type violence.

[R141] The broadening on the diagnosis has been good for your business. Point taken.

"broadening of" I should say

[R141] I wish I had a job as boring as yours - treating fantasy illnesses for people who despise you.

I always used to figure that Harry was dim but harmless, but he is an evil shit. I will be eating popcorn when they don't live up the hype and things go south, then the marriage implodes.

r57 that reminds me of the movie A Simple Plan, the husband and wife are in the hospital after the birth of their baby which should be a happy time but instead they are scheming about money.

[R140] Is there any methodology for you to justify your floral scarves and talk therapy?

Please advise.

[quote]He and most of the celebs jumping on the mental well-being bandwagon have done nothing but trivialize real mental health disorders.

Same thing with the Hollywood #MeToo sluts who have trivialized actual rape and sexual assault victims. Fucking a director for a role and then regretting it years later when your career goes south is NOT rape.

That he would allow this to made public or even leaked - and not subject to a strict NDA - makes him a POS.

He really is nothing more than a selfish, narcissistic child.

R149, this did not come from the Harkles. The first story, about Harry writing a memoir, appeared in the NY Post. The follow-up, about the deal being for four books, was reported by the Daily Mail. Those are both Harkle-unfriendly sources. This was not leaked to make Harry look good, as indeed it did not. The stories seem to have come from people in the publishing business who took a dislike to him.

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Well so far Harry's behavior has been disgraceful so you might as well make up stories about him because the reality will end up being far worse. And I thought wearing swastikas to parties and running round Vegas naked was bad. Talk about a beggar on horseback.

[quote] this did not come from the Harkles.

Of course it did. They could have easily insisted on an NDA to prevent this from leaking. They obviously did not. How many people needed to know this?

R153, you can’t randomly make people sign NDAs. They’re contracts. They are not enforceable unless you pay someone not to talk. Does that sound like something that the Harkles would do?

R150, I doubt that these leaks came about because Harry is disliked. Publishing companies’ bottom line is to make money. By leaking this it drums up anticipation and interest. Of course it could it just be employees who have big mouths.

There’s way too much projection going on in these threads.

R155, the book/book isn’t due for release until next year. This information was released much too early. Plus, the DM’s sources were from the publishing industry and claimed that they had been taken aback by Harry’s mercenary manner. I don’t know why Harry himself would leak that information.

[quote] you can’t randomly make people sign NDAs. They’re contracts.

Why is this so hard to understand? Any details of the book's publication would be between Harry, Meghan and the publisher. It would be a logical assumption they have a contract with said publisher and anyone else that needed to know like a ghost writer. Of course they could have locked this information down. There is absolutely no reason why this needed to be detailed.

Harry and Meghan are both POS.

This qualifies as a way to make a living? Telling secrets to a writer (he doesn’t even have to write it) or sitting in a chair whining at Oprah.

Harry’s a little bitch.

r157, Harry held a live bidding war meeting in which he had multiple different publishers from the UK and the US live on a video call and laid out his offer to see who would bite. Several commented that they were appalled at how rudely he spoke to them. That's who leaked. Read the original article in the Mail. It's all in there.

Also, do people here not realize how close the tabloids in the UK and in NY are with publishing houses? Half of tabloid editors go on to be thriller writers, and the other half go on to be the editors who commission serialisations.

Book publishers may think themselves above tabloid editors, but believe me, the former kiss the latter's asses on the regular because it's that much harder to sell non-literary books without the help of the Tabloids.

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Well haven't we been hearing for a while now Harry's whole truth? It is never ending. And he's only 36. The Oprah interview was merely a prelude. There will many more decades of volumes of this man's life to come. How many books does he have in him? Clearly more than Will and Ariel Durant. I mean this guy can fill libraries with all that he has to tell us. He is a bottomless pit of avarice and stupidity.

It really sounds like sources who were privvy to the book deal meetings (if they can be trusted) don't have anything good to say about him either

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His old gang is not happy about the prospect of the book:

"Friends of the duke could be prepared to retaliate by dishing the Royal dirt back after years of refusing to gossip about him to the media, the Mail on Sunday reports.

A pal told the newspaper: “It feels very hypocritical given Harry chucked people out of his friendship group for talking to the press.

“There is a fear that he’s going to reveal details of his hedonistic youth which some worry will play havoc with their careers and personal lives.”

Another source said: [bold] “If Harry slams any of his old school and military buddies in his new book they have pledged to break ranks to tell their story.”[/bold]

Harry’s friends are also reported to be nervous after their “friendly emails” went unanswered.

Tensions reportedly began when the duke left a number of his military pals off the list for his wedding to Meghan Markle in 2018 to make room for celeb friends such as George Clooney."

The Queen should write a book about Harry before she dies and tell what a little shit she always knew he was. Taking him into the family despite his mother being trash who ran around Paris with Arabs and fornicating with a with a horse hung James Hewitt who passed on his cute but stupid genes to Harry. The BRF needed a spare but no longer and he can spend the rest of his life writing sordid mini series for major television networks for an audience that no longer exists.

There once was a prince who was rich But married a pretentious witch. Her spell made him woke An absolute joke. And now he’s turned into her bitch.

Actually r166, he's looking less and less like her bitch or whipping boy. All signs point to Harry as the main leader in the Sussex Sideshow Circus, with Megs on board riding shotgun. Something many of us here on this board spotted early on, despite the general media and public thinking most of the impetus came from his wife.

Not saying Meghan's hands are clean, just that its more obvious that Harry isn't being dragged along. He's the one who's been in our faces for months now, with the video messages, solo trips back to the UK for public events (funeral, statue), and making most of the news (CHIMPO deal, etc). He's now said to have been the one "driving the negotiations" for the new book deal. He's not innocent at all in any of this.

Folie à deux isn’t quite right. More “a meeting of the minds”.

I like to think that the unspecified 4th book will be a “post-divorce” one.

I feel if he writes anything overly negative or targeting HM or Philip in his books, the Palace will come down on him like freight. Everyone is protective of HM, and that won't end when she dies.

One of the things I despise about Harry is that all of the hurt, chaos and negativity he’s generating is done in the name of some amorphous, wok agenda that purports to be enlightened but is in fact malevolent.

Wok agenda?

Lacist!

Lol woke

Didn't these people claim they wanted privacy? Then fucking disappear.

What I hate is that his family have seemed to really want to love and help him. They treated him and William as equals, which never happened with a heir and spares before.

In 2017 he said it was Will/Kate who got him into therapy.

Now he just seems enraged, entitled and bitter 24/7.

Plus the fact he's a dim bulb trying to pass as some world expert and authority who can lecture the great unwashed about whatever he's told to.

R166 - I say, well done!

R174

Blame the clam! Meghan's damaged goods in her own way, and now they've fused together into a mass of human garbage. Also, she needs cash and can't earn a living on her own limited talent, so she eggs him on.

Their marriage will not last. She needs to be married to a king, a conqueror, a settled titan who knows who he is and how to get what he wants in life. Harry is weak, and troubled, and subsists on handouts from family and cheesy paid appearances/books. He's the wrong kind of man for her, and if she doesn't leave him, she'll drive him to drink and/or suicide.

Harry's about to rip them all a new asshole.

They’ll divorce when they run out of material. Once going after the common enemy is (BRF) is exhausted, they’ll turn on each other. Harry will eventually go live in Africa and sort of become a hobo.

With what, r177? Accusations of racism? They've already done that. Naming William or Camilla? No one will believe them because neither person has ever been accused of anything like that in all their scrutinised years in the media.

And that's just it - no matter what Harry says now, no one in Britain will believe him.

With this book, Harry will only be ripping himself a new asshole.

Same as he did in the Oprah interview.

I imagine Harry’s PTSD diagnosis came about pretty much the same way it happened to Bruce Willis’s character in this episode of Friends:

R179 - I believe that's what the BRF are counting on: Harry's innate qualities undermining any efforts his book makes at taking down members of the BRF or the BRF/the monarchy itself.

No matter how good the ghost writer is, he can't unilaterally change what it is Harry wants to say, he can only organise the material better, vacuum the grammar, make it comprehensible, and try to lessen the extreme narcissism on view so that it's less boring.

Of course, the ghostwriter is hired by the publisher, not Harry. If the publisher tells the ghostwriter that what it wants is juicy gossip, and lots of it, then the ghostwriter's job will be to play up certain angles with the kind of language that reads like, well, like juicy gossip.

The odds are that the book won't do well after the initial blaring headlines if it turns out the book is All About Harry And How He Felt And How He Feels Now. The only thing interesting about Harry is who he was born to, and what his relationship is with the family he was born to. No one give a flying fuck how he felt at 14 and how he feels now based solely on Harry's character. He's nobody without the BRF, and so is his wife.

Meghan's dreadful book sold only a bit over 3,212 copies in its first week of publication in the UK (apart from the thousands Meghan herself bought to boost sales). After five minutes on the NY TIMES Best Seller List in children's books, it was a massive flop both critically and in terms of sales. It may recoup much of that internationally, but it was clear that the UK public had little to no interest in it. And, it was a massive flop because, in reality, it was all about Meghan, and Meghan had control of it, and she can't write and has wit, taste, and ability up her arse.

Hiring Moerhinger was a good first step by Penguin Random House in avoiding the embarrassment that was "The Bench". The question will be, how much will the ghostwriter really have to work with?

YouGov's recent poll after the news broke showed that about 85% of the UK public was totally uninterested in a Harry memoir. And for the BRF, only the UK public matter.

Harry's out for big bucks, and he'll have gotten them with this deal, at least in terms of advances and the rights to publish internationally. How the books will sell is another matter.

I would imagine that by the end of 2022, the public everywhere will have had a bellyful of Meghan and Harry lecturing the rest of the world on humility, kindness, mental health, wellness, and speaking one's "truth" (even if that truth has a habit of contradicting actual fact).

There had been whispers that Harry and Meghan had/ has traitorous moles inside the RF who gave been secretly giving them updates about the family. The rumors were that the traitors are no other than the York princesses. Now it’s finally written about in the open. It makes sense because the Shrek-like princesses’ mother, Fergie, has been saying nice things about Oprah, Harry, and Meghan. The York family almost certainly resents Charles and William for wanting to streamline the monarchy. Also, they potentially could regain prominence by writing their own tell-all memoirs or side projects that trade on the RF links, just like the Sussexes if the Sussexes’ tacky ventures prove to be profitable.

I'll copy what I posted in another thread:

"I don't believe Eugenie is in their corner, despite the many claims that the York girls are. Meghan stole Eugenie's spring wedding date, tried to get the emerald tiara and then upstaged Eugenie's fall wedding by announcing her pregnancy to the family at the ceremony. Andrew was allegedly so furious that he was the rumored source of many of the early leaks about Meghan's true nature."

R183 it benefits the Yorks to have Harry and Meghan as the most hated members of the BRF. So there’s that too. The Yorks are a tacky family all around.

^^^Just because Andrew might not like Meghan, it doesn’t mean that the York princesses aren’t sympathetic to the Sussexes or that they have their own ulterior motives. Also both are said to be close to Harry before his marriage to Meghan, more so than to William.

Losers take what they can get.

Why, it's just like "The Lion in Winter!"

I don't think it's "the Yorks" - I don't think Princess Beatrice gives a damn. All she's ever wanted is romance, marriage, babies, and a lush private life and that's what she's got.

If it's anyone, it's Eugenie and Fergie, taking advantage of a difficult phase for Charles and the Queen to exact some payback for the way they believe Fergie was treated - never mind that Fergie invited most of it by ridiculous behaviour.

Then Andrew tried to get both the girls shoehorned it as working royals after William married Kate.

And then there was Charles' and the Queen's banishment of Andrew from the public stage over the Epstein affair.

I don't think Eugenie cares one bit for Meghan, but she can use her if it gets Eugenie some revenge on Charles, especially, for blocking her from getting on to the royal gravy train, and for being complicit with the Queen on Andrew's exile from royal life.

Eugenie was always the sharper tool in the box.

Think Tessio in "The Godfather" (and we know what happened to Tessio eventually)

HM and Fergie have remained friendly over the years. That's why she was always received at Balmoral to visit when Philip wasn't there.

R188 and this is why the Queen’s glaring fault lies in her willingness to forgive and overlook tacky behavior by family members.

R189, I think that's a virtue.

R190 not when it’s a slippery slope into forgiving deliberately hurtful behavior like what Harry and Meghan are doing.

Forgiving and still taking prudent action are not irreconcilable. Even for H&M. Hey, now that's a great brand name.

The fact that the BRF just sits back and takes this all makes them appear weak. Not a good look for them.

[quote]not when it’s a slippery slope....

In law school, they teach you that when you find yourself arguing "slippery slope," it's because you don't have any good arguments to make to support your position.

So wave your arms and try to instill fear of the ol' slippery slope.

And there they were, feeling all comradely against William and Charles and then someone reveals that Harry didn’t want to be anything like Andrew. I’d say that drove a little bit of a wedge between.

R193 That stance has been somewhat proved positive as H&M have unerringly come out looking worse, nor better. I agree that at some point a more active response will be required. But for now, all that has happened is how fundamentally unlikable Harry and the missus arechas become more and more evident

The problem will require more action in te Charles' reign, when the issue of the Sussrx kids' titles arises. Especially if Charles doesn't follow through in his father's wish that Edward get the Edinburgh dukedom.

It's really Charles' reign that stands to be the most haunted by Harry. I imagine they're still waiting for that "opportune" moment, and for enough of a good reason to defang the screams of racism.

And remember, they refused to call off the bullying investigation and at some point that will be "leaked".

The BRF has made it clear that it will challenge egreguous lies. And it has the bullying reprt ready to drop, and who knows what else.

For the moment, though, giving the Sussexes enough rope to hang themselves seems to have worked well enough.

R194 we’re not in law school

I'm going with the goal is "extremely damaging" except for stuff held back for another round.

Interesting if true re: Yorks

R193, I don’t think the Royal Family look weak.

Weakness would be if they allowed themselves to be pushed into a rather tacky, obvious full-scale PR battle against Harry and Meghan, who could only benefit from the interest it would create.

The Palace have obviously decided to deny them the oxygen of publicity, by not engaging unless it absolutely has to. And I think it’s working: apart from a hysterical, tiny minority of Megstans, they are not getting much interest.

Harry’s book will cause a minor sensation, but what will it ultimately amount to? If he was smart, he would write it as a love letter to Granny (which would surprise everyone, go down very well in her Jubilee year, and possibly help him regain popularity), but he isn’t smart, so we are probably in for more whingeing. Whatever it says, it will be in the press for a week or two, the Palace will issue denials along the “recollections may vary” lines, and then most people will shrug and ignore them.

Harry’s problem is that he hates his family, but he and Meghan are waging a war against an institution which doesn’t regard them as worthy opponents. That makes the Harkles look petty and vindictive, and casts doubt on whether their grievances are genuine.

I do think it’s very dysfunctional to raise one kid become King and the other to do… nothing? But that’s the nature of the beast.

I would think the BRF would make more of an effort to carve out distinct roles and identities for the spares. That might prevent a lot of jealousy.

For example, what if Charlotte were to become a physician? And Louis a scientist? It would be so cool and they could set such a great example. The BRF could make this happen- tutors, internships, etc.

Charles seems to be completely clueless, so it’s not surprising he failed to anticipate the need to give Harry a separate identity / make him feel special in his own way.

Along the lines of “Sure, your brother will be King, but you are a very talented (fill in blank.) “ it’s basic psychology when raising kids.

But given that Charles was taking Camilla to official functions less than a year after Diana’s death, it doesn’t seem his children were a remote priority.

I don’t hate Camilla, but she and Charles really ducked that one up.

R201 Harry was helped into a rewarding military career and then, when he quit that, he bounced into being a senior Royal where, through good PR, he was seen as cooler than his brother. He was welcomed as a third wheel for years by William and Kate and was on level pegging with them.

Was it all that rewarding a military career or was he propped up as he needed to be in his schools? Sounds like he couldn't do anything on his own without a bunch of sycophants close by to do the heavy lifting. Or out and out cheating.

R202, Harry has been made to feel special all his life.. Despite his lack of academic ability, his family got him into Sandhurst and helicopter training, because he wanted it. And even though he can’t see it, the press treated him with a level of indulgence which the rest of his family could only wish for. It failed to go into much detail in his alleged cheating, and portrayed him as a “lad”, instead of as the boor he really is. He really should have been very thankful to the Palace PR.

If anything Charles should be criticised for never making Harry feel gratitude for the unearned gifts and honours handed to him, and for allowing him to grow up as an incredibly entitled man who feels as if he deserves more and more. We can see the result of this now: Harry is a remarkably unintelligent, inarticulate middle-aged man who sulks like a teenager and believes he has the right to be treated seriously as a broadcaster and activist, constantly spouting platitude about how others should live their lives, while he swans around in his private jets and tells others to Be Kind while he torments his own family.

[quote]Harry is a remarkably unintelligent, inarticulate middle-aged man who sulks like a teenager and believes he has the right to be treated seriously as a broadcaster and activist, constantly spouting platitude about how others should live their lives, while he swans around in his private jets and tells others to Be Kind while he torments his own family.

I am a Chief Impact Officer. What are you?

Giving Harry firm direction and helping him build up EARNED self-esteem and confidence is what the BRF should have done. That of course is very different from what they did do, which was prop him up and portray him as something he’s not.

That was probably the worst thing they could have done, because it communicated to Harry that they were ashamed of him. Maybe deservedly so, but still.

You can’t ignore a kid his whole life then create some fake bio for him and think that’s the same as helping him build legit self-esteem.

Self esteem? You are your lower title. Fuck off, also ran.

The only way the Harkles could get the monarchy abolished is if, through some tragedy, they became next in line of succession. It would be gone in two shakes.

I think Meghan has endeavored to have her husband replace her as the hated one. That's why she's doing the book on avocado shakes and keeping a relatively low profile. Genius.

I think their core audience in the US is black and biracial. I base that upon who her media cheerleaders are.

Someone is behind this as well. Al Fayed blames TRF for never accepting him. He also blames them for the death of his son, even though he was one responsible for every decision made that night in Paris. Someone is paying big bucks to engineer this effort to harm the Monocracy. Just a thought, something I have suspected from the very beginning. I have never thought Meghan was anything less that a planned weapon used to bring TRF down.

It wasn't TRF that wouldn't accept al-Fayed, it was the British government, which refused to grant him UK citizenship. The RF had nothing to do with his failure to gain full entry to the UK. Socially, of course, was another matter, and his use of Diana and his son to put the boot in was his impotent Fuck You to the apex of social status here. In the event, the effort rebounded spectacularly and tragically on al-Fayed.

For more than 20 years, he has been trying vainly to shift the blame elsewhere because he can't bear accepting that it was his staff who was drunk and his security that failed, and his son that got the iconic Diana killed and with her all his fantasies of his son marrying Diana and really sticking it to the people he blamed for refusing to turn a blind eye to the massive corruption with which he'd advanced himself.

Naturally, a whole host of willing allies with other reasons for wishing ill to the Windsors have at times aided and abetted al-Fayed's conspiracy theories, including, it appears, Diana's own son - who, like al-Fayed, can't seem to accept certain realitise.

Like, if she'd been wearing a seat belt, she'd likely have survived, and no one anywhere could have arranged that; no one shoved too many drinks down Henri Paul's throat; it was up to the al-Fayed security to check to see if Paul was fit to drive; and the plans of where they were driving to were changed at the last minute.

None of this will change Harry's mind, because he NEEDS to believe the fantasy of the ruthless Windsors murdering his mother, and forgetting that it was Diana herself who dismissed the royal protection officers the BRF was still paying for to ensure her security - because she believed Martin Bashir's bullshit that the RF was spying on her through those RPOs. Bashir, now outed as a cynical liar and manipulator who was far more responsible for Diana's death than Harry's family.

But don't tell Harry that. He's making too much money peddling bullshit. He needs to see his Mum, himself, and his wife as victims or his fictionalised psychological landscape collapses.

Megan takes massive stinky dumps and farts loudly. So does Harry.

Thirty something Harry at the Olympics. No one around him seems to find his behavior, in public! at all unusual.

Lady C on Harry's book deal, among other things...

If Meghan's book on wellness says to cut off all your family members I can't say she's wrong.

Spot on, r209. M has decided that H should do all the crazy stuff. Takes the heat off her and provides fodder for any future necessities…

She is a massive coward, as are all bullies. All, without fail, are cowards. I have tested this theory many times in my life and it is always true. As you probably tell, I despise bullies. I have all of my life. She is one of the most abusive bullies I have ever seen. I wish poverty on then, I really do.

Harry I always said you were the bubble head like me!

[QUOTE] This is a sanctioned takedown and it's army is a group of carefully groomed elderly and mentally ill women online.

Yup - KLAN GRANNIES.

^Poverty is unlikely at this point. Harry may be prone to mismanagement due to his background, but Meghan is far too shrewd and too recently out of the middle-class pragmatic drawer to allow it.

But their curious penchant for overreach, their inability to hide how unlikable and insincere they are, and the sell-by date on their incessant whingeing, lecturing, lying, and hypocrisy probably make it likely that they will continue to get themselves into trouble and turn into higher grade versions of Fergie as they age.

I think they'll eventually turn into jokes - very comfortably off jokes, but jokes.

It's fine for the Kardashians, they've never made any pretence of being made of Higher Stuff.

But for the Harkles, clinging desperately to their royal aura with one hand, whilst behaving like money-hungry celebrities on the other . . . they have a longer way to fall.

Harry, particularly, seems unable to control the rage, envy, and spite that seems to leak out of his very pores when he talks about his family, or his literal obsession with his mother.