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New this week! Sometimes even Prudence needs a little help (Step-brothers incest?)

FROM Slate. “Every Thursday in this column, we’ll post a question that has her stumped. This week’s tricky situation is below. Join the conversation about it on Twitter with Jenée @jdesmondharris on Thursday, and then look back for the final answer here on Friday.”

EST TROLL -RIGHT?

Dear Prudence,

My husband and I are at crossroads about how to confront our sons about a discovery we made while visiting their shared flat. They are stepbrothers technically—note the word “technically.” My husband and I are both widowers who met and bonded at a support group for single parents surviving after cancer.

My son was 10 when I met my husband and 12 when we married. My stepson is 9 months younger, so they are very close in age. After a somewhat rocky start (both boys were grieving and trying to adjust to a new family norm), they became the best of friends, inseparable from about age 13. They even took the same classes together in high school so they could spend more time together, and made sure to go to the same university.

My hubby and I went on to have four more kids, three girls and a boy, so our lives got pretty hectic. Because our older sons were teenagers when our house became baby crazy, I admit my husband and I probably let the older two fend for themselves a bit more than usual, especially with four young kids in the house.

They are both adults now (25 and 26), live a state over, and rent a flat together. We went to visit them once COVID restrictions had eased, and my husband accidentally walked into the second bedroom (in a two-bedroom flat) thinking it was the bathroom, and discovered it was set up as an office. My husband’s curiosity got the better of him and he snuck around, discovering one king-sized bed in the only other bedroom that contained both of their stuff.

My husband didn’t say anything in front of the kids, but told me about it when we got home the following week. He had been mulling it over and decided it best not to tell me until after our holiday was over. We haven’t told the boys, but have been distraught over it. My husband is convinced they are sleeping together, which makes me feel sick. Yes, they are stepbrothers, but have been raised together since they were 9 and 10. My husband’s mind went straight to them sleeping together, but maybe it is non-sexual codependency? Because we were so busy with the younger kids, maybe in their teenage years they just got closer and closer, maybe they weren’t handling the grief over their respective losses as we thought they were?

My husband argues that they have never brought home girlfriends, and we should have noticed the signs earlier. What signs? To me there were no signs. But if my husband is right, how do we handle this? Did it start when they were underage? Did it start when they were adults, at university? Honestly, we don’t know and it has made me feel so sick, and like such a bad mum.

Should we confront the boys about it? Or act like we have no idea what is going on and hope for the best? It is just a very close friendship they grow out of as they get older and meet women? Please give us some insight on how to handle this as I feel so lost. We have the four other kids to think about as well; I am not sure I would want them exposed to what would be an unhealthy relationship if our worries are confirmed.

— Concerned and Confused Mama Bear

WHAT SAY YOU DATALOUNGE?

by Anonymousreply 40July 24, 2021 6:38 PM

Are their names Adam and Steve?

by Anonymousreply 1July 22, 2021 7:23 PM

Answer: Do nothing. They are unrelated adults. They can do as they please

by Anonymousreply 2July 22, 2021 7:26 PM

If they're hot they should shoot a porn and put on a pornhub, "Really Real Stepbrothers fuck."

by Anonymousreply 3July 22, 2021 7:29 PM

These things are always ESTs, so are the AITA posts on Reddit. Like others said, this would make a decent plot for a porno, for those who need a plot.

by Anonymousreply 4July 22, 2021 7:35 PM

Dad just upset they haven't invited him to join in.

by Anonymousreply 5July 22, 2021 7:38 PM

Yeah, its an EST, but it doesn’t matter. I used to love it when Emily Yoffe wrote it. She gave great advice and had a no nonsense liberal but not full of shit attitude. Once that tranny took over I stopped reading.

by Anonymousreply 6July 22, 2021 7:46 PM

“Dear Prudence” is more of an EST offender than the worst of the worst DL’er. They might as well have mentioned that the stepbrothers’ apartment had track lighting.

by Anonymousreply 7July 22, 2021 7:55 PM

On the distant assumption that this is true I don't understand the hand wringing. These are adult men and are of no blood relation. She sounds like she feels guilty because she essentially dumped the kids to start a new family. Many straight couples with large families will essentially abandon their older kids to focus on making more babies.

by Anonymousreply 8July 22, 2021 7:57 PM

Is it strange to anyone else that she uses English terms like "flat" and "mum" even though the rest of the information makes it sound like she's in the US?

by Anonymousreply 9July 22, 2021 8:01 PM

R7 I will give slate ESTs credit that the writers usually make an attempt to sound non fictional. If someone here wrote it the story would involve the stepdad walking in on them having sex and asking to join. This would be followed by the mother viciously slapping all of them and running off wailing.

by Anonymousreply 10July 22, 2021 8:01 PM

r10: there would be too much detail, too, like a description of what they kept in their room and what color the sheets were.

by Anonymousreply 11July 22, 2021 8:43 PM

R9, yes, that and the fact that she uses the terms "hubby" and "Mama Bear" seal the deal that this is an EST.

by Anonymousreply 12July 22, 2021 9:12 PM

We don't see the problem.

by Anonymousreply 13July 22, 2021 9:28 PM

Mind your own fucking homophobic business, breeders. There's nothing to confront them about.

by Anonymousreply 14July 22, 2021 10:08 PM

What is an EST? I've been on here a few years and I still haven't figured it out. I've googled it. Please help.

by Anonymousreply 15July 22, 2021 11:19 PM

If they were opposite sexes, the parents would be planning their wedding…

by Anonymousreply 16July 22, 2021 11:37 PM

This thread is making me SO horny!!!!

If these two guys are hot, then even better!!!!

by Anonymousreply 17July 23, 2021 12:22 AM

The woman who wrote the letter should be slapped viciously, for calling herself "Mama Bear."

by Anonymousreply 18July 23, 2021 12:37 AM

R15 - EST = “Elaborate Scenario Troll”

an overly complex, patently obvious falsehood designed to fool the gullible

by Anonymousreply 19July 23, 2021 4:27 AM

Thank R19. I screenshot your post so I don’t forget!

DL seems to have a lot of ESTs. Are they mental health cases? I just don’t get the appeal of being one. I’ll admit, some of the posts make me laugh. Months ago, there was one who claimed to take a shit so big and bad, he ending up squealing like a pig in pain. I don’t know why, but he had me in stitches. His wording was hilarious. I wish I could find the post. I need a really good laugh right now.

Xo

by Anonymousreply 20July 23, 2021 9:27 AM

Thank you, R19. I screenshot so I'll remember.

by Anonymousreply 21July 23, 2021 9:39 AM

Why aren't my comments appearing?

by Anonymousreply 22July 23, 2021 9:40 AM

I had myself on ignore. OMG I'm a mess.

by Anonymousreply 23July 23, 2021 9:41 AM

Unrelated by blood so I don't see the problem. They apparently supported each other during a period of serious neglect. Now the one who neglected them wants to break them up. Finding someone is hard enough.

Does anyone know if any states have laws against step siblings getting married?

by Anonymousreply 24July 23, 2021 9:47 AM

So Google turned this up. Apparently step-siblings can marry in the US.

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by Anonymousreply 25July 23, 2021 9:51 AM

Agree R11-- thread count on the sheets too, lol

And yes, I picked up on that too R9-- she says they live in a different "state" --maybe Australian?

by Anonymousreply 26July 23, 2021 10:00 AM

R13 right? What is the big deal about this?

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by Anonymousreply 27July 23, 2021 10:18 AM

Something sort of similar happened to a former coworker. She had a teen son, and married a guy with one as well. She confided in me, I guess because I was the only gay person she knew, that she had suspected they were having sex with each other. I don’t really remember my response…I think I sort of blew it off, since I didn’t really want to talk with a coworker about that. The whole family moved out is state not long after that. I hope they didn’t wind up traumatizing those boys too much.

by Anonymousreply 28July 23, 2021 10:25 AM

Straight people always assume that gays will fuck anything that moves, no matter how verboten. Lately, Slate and much of the cis-female leftist media has been dripping with HOMOPHOBIA and this is just the latest example.

by Anonymousreply 29July 23, 2021 11:18 AM

Dear Prudence has the most unbelievable letters. Compared with the Advice column in the Washington Post which is so mundane as to be boring. Dear Abby claimed that she could detect the fake letters (blamed them on the students at Yale, IIRC). Prudence happily prints them though, I assume because it drives clicks.

by Anonymousreply 30July 23, 2021 12:39 PM

Well, besides the fact that no one is being hurt and no one should care (at least because they are not blood relatives)....in most cases such as this the brothers would have changed the set up to have a bed in each bedroom. Even if the office only had a pull-out couch. That detail alone makes it suspicious.

Unless that's how they wanted the parents to figure out the relationship. Clumsy, but possible.

In any case, for a better take on the situation (or EST) see the movie "From Beginning to End (2009)."

by Anonymousreply 31July 23, 2021 12:55 PM

R19 I thought it stood for Extremely Sensible Tale?

by Anonymousreply 32July 23, 2021 12:56 PM

R30 I agree with the Washington post advice letters being dull. I always picture the letter writers as these really uptight umc suburbanites who think the slightest social discomfort is high drama. A typical letter will be something like " My in laws invited us to Hawaii but we would rather go to Maine this year. How do I handle this ?!"

by Anonymousreply 33July 23, 2021 4:03 PM

R20 that was a Poopisha thread. That troll always posted about what it ate, and what it pooped out.

And Rocco Ritchie

by Anonymousreply 34July 23, 2021 4:07 PM

Someone should test how accurately “Dear Prudence” vets her letters by writing to her about their Lhasa Apso Mitzi and their neighbor’s college son Joel. I wonder if she will print it.

by Anonymousreply 35July 23, 2021 5:16 PM

The gargoyle neighbor would be a good one.

by Anonymousreply 36July 23, 2021 5:19 PM

Cheryl should write to ask for help for her stinky pussy

by Anonymousreply 37July 23, 2021 5:29 PM

Definitely another EST, right? I wouldn't even want to guess what the (fake) birth name is.

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by Anonymousreply 38July 24, 2021 4:52 PM

R38 How dare you suggest that ? It's a serious matter and they clearly need advice.

by Anonymousreply 39July 24, 2021 5:36 PM

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by Anonymousreply 40July 24, 2021 6:38 PM
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