New Book Details How Eric Trump ‘Flipped Out’ On Election Night

“Trump and his family became apoplectic as the night ticked on and his early leads over Biden in Pennsylvania and other states kept shrinking,” said Leonnig and Rucker, noting how the Trump family had been warned the counting of earlier in-person votes would lean Trump and later mail-in votes would favor Biden, meaning “the margins probably would tighten later in the evening.”

Sick of DLers and others who can't quit the former guy in the White House. Move on!

OMG!!! And they are coming back to terrorize us!!! Please put a stop on this criminal gang now.

This is probably the first time I see Eric without his slick back hair.

@r2, This is about a new book that's out. If you don't want to discuss literature move on to another thread

R2. The book reporting this information is new. If this thread doesn't interest you, then don't click onto the link. We all have moved on...we elected a new president. However, we also have to be vigilant because this criminal Trump is threatening to run again. Personally, I feel his ego and fear of being labeled a loser once again will prevent him from running again. But we must be aware he and his despicable family and company could return. We must be prepared to fight this so we never have to relive the past four years again.

R5 It's the Trumps I don't want to discuss. Literature is fine though I doubt the book is either fine or literature.

And yet here you are discussing the Trumps.

The Russiapublicans assured them they had Ohio and Florida hacked, and that's all they would need. They got a nasty surprise, and they've never been able to accept it.

R8 I'd rather discuss you.. You know nothing about literature or even what a discussion is!

R2. It's news. Deal with it, or perhaps you need to move on.

R11 News to whom? It's irrelevant and no one is going to buy this book. Have you read it?

R11 It's click bait! Not news or literature.

The book is going to be a best seller and it's all they've been talking about on Twitter. Please move on to a thread that suits your interests. It looks to be a very interesting book with a lot of behind the scenes revelations. I'm anxious to read it

R14 as if people who use Twitter buy books let alone read!

The sense of their entitlement is palpable.

^ you don't need a book to tell you that. After all it's palpable and hardly a new revelation.

R2 = Boris.

The most unattractive family since the Addams. I despise all of them. Please Lord, make them go away.

R18 Like the book you have nothing to new to offer, but regurgitate tired old talking points.

I don't buy this, because we knew weeks before the election that Trump and the GOP were pushing people to vote on the day itself and not do advance voting, because they knew if their base's votes were counted first, it would make it look like the Republicans were winning. It was a trick to make it look like they had the edge when they didn't, and a way to say, "Look, we WERE ahead, now we're behind, there must have been cheating."

They didn't spend all that time pushing people to vote on the day of for no reason. They did it because they knew it was likely they were going to lose and they wanted some way to push a "stolen vote" narrative.

This story is b.s.

This gummy Lurch motherfucker again!

[quote]If you don't want to discuss literature

Grow up. Come back to DL when you're trolling without training wheels.

You’re the troll, r23. You don’t want us to discuss anything negative about the criminal Trump family. Why might that be?

I appreciate the comments about not giving these people any more oxygen, but I love love love stories about Trumps in despair. I think there are multiple interpretations of this scene, including that it's BS, but I think it's because despite all of their efforts to cheat, disable mail in voting, suppress votes, etc., there were more voters were willing to stand in lines - at times for hours - who wanted Trump gone than the MAGA loons who worshipped at the throne & that shocked the fuck out of them

My friend’s cousin owns a polling firm and worked for Trump during his presidency. They didn’t like the numbers so they fired him. lol

R24 Start talking. No one's stopping you.

And no one's buying the book R21

R14=publisher

This is what happens when you live in a Fake News Bubble where the Emperor Never Wears Clothes.

The same thing happened to the pathetic DL Boris and millions of Trump Trash who will not tolerate any truths inconvenient to the fascist Republican Party that demonizes mainstream, legitimate journalists.

That's why they were shocked and that's why they rioted.. Because anyone who ever tried to tell it like it is was always "Fired!" or cancelled. I predicted Republicans would be completely shocked in November that Hair Furor wasn't re-elected and not what he was cracked-up to be because their alternative and Fox media never informed them that Trump has massive flaws or the legit pollsters knew he was over YEARS ago.

If you want to last in politics, you have to have morals and yield to the truth. You can't just lie, attack the messengers and carry on blessing a litany of crimes and incompetence. But the Trumpster Fire only allows what he wants to hear like a typical, sociopathic tyrant and the mindless automatons like Boris obeyed his example like silly, little lemmings.

Sucks to be them — perennial losers. Now we have hilarious records of Boris collapsing in real time, his foolishness a permanent record:

[quote]Biden is delusional if he thinks he won.

LOL!

This is interesting:

[quote] His brother, Donald Trump Jr., was reportedly equally as stunned.

[quote]“There’s no way we lose to this guy,” he said about his father’s Democratic rival, now-President Joe Biden.

He used the exact words Trump himself used in spring of 2020 about the polling that the matchup with Biden was getting. (His campaign advisors replied to him, “you’re losing to this guy.”)

This shows the sons are real lightweights, as if that weren’t already clear enough. A pair of meat puppets.

R18 is Borish

r2 = Boris, eager to cover-up his embarrassing, ongoing mistakes.

SAME, OLD DENIAL!

[quote] [R24] Start talking. No one's stopping you

Said the troll whose posts demanding that we stop talking make up half of the replies ….

r10 is clearly the Know Nothing who can't handle the truth.

R2 AKA Boris, or, rather, his two sock puppet accounts, are also all over the "Current Right Wing Talking Points" thread. It's one prolific troll.

R34 Are you always so clear and articulate?

R35 you watch too many old movies!

R33 Loves Boris!

The funny thing about r23 is that he always thinks whoever proves him wrong or disagrees with him is immature and in need of "growing up."

Because grown-ups lie when they don't get their way, make excuses for themselves and their crooked leaders, seek to destroy every person who doesn't do and think exactly like themselves and try to suppress truths while trolling DL all day. Scapegoating trans and "wokesters" for all their problems is what grown-ups do.

"Never mind this Trump fellow, his continued crimes, attacks on America or my 10-year history of shilling his snake oil and causing Republicans to lose three branches of power. It's old news and grown-ups don't look at that."

Sure, Boris.

It’s all over the Wyoming t shirt thread too, r36.

R40 Loves Boris!

In this case R23 is correct. Besides needing to grow up, how about some originality of thought?

Somebody’s apparently mad he can’t bump threads from 2015 anymore.

^ Would that be Eric Trump? Otherwise who cares?

Pretending that "no one" has bought the book = real mature.

It's already #6 on the New York Times Best Seller list because of pre-sales and Levin's previous book went to #1.

That's millions of dollars that r28 needs desperately but will never have.

R46 was your mother's name Brandy?

r43 has never had a thought that Trumpco or DL didn't feed him.

r47, is your mother's name Vodka?

R48 Never had a thought!

Troll @ r50, etc. proven.

R49 Like vodka it's clear you're an idiot.

Meanwhile the troll is getting what it wants. We are discussing its trolling rather than the troll’s beloved trump family.

"[R14]=publisher "

^ Dickhead^

"[R14] as if people who use Twitter buy books let alone read! "

Just because you were banned from Twitter doesn't mean the rest of us aren't well read

R53 read the book and let us know how it all turns out. The suspense is killing me!

If you have more observations than what's already been said about the Trump family, then share them by all means, r53.

In the meantime, it's important to remember how r52 "Told Us So" on election night:

[quote]Dems have lost the working class of all races. Dems should have stopped giving money and passive support to rioters. The media is full of liars and, worse, barely literate retards.

[quote]Fuck every single shut-in who called me Boris, who put me on a list, who's too afraid of reality to ever admit he fell for some lazy Cold War era horseshit.

[quote]Democrats will never win another election until you accept that YOU are your biggest problem and change yourselves.

[quote]Figure out how to love deplorables, give up on transgender politics, and stop fucking saying Latinx.

LOL!!!!

R55=Miss-information.

R57 Important to whom?

That’s defacturd one million percent, r57.

Sane persons who wish to protect themselves from sociopaths like r59.

"[R55]=Miss-information. "

^ Mr. Pussy-Boy ^

R61 and how should they go about protecting themselves 'Anonymous'?

"'Anonymous'?

—Anonymous"

Who are you?

Why didn't Donald buy Eric (much needed) plastic surgery like he did for Whorevanka?

^ He did, this is what he really looks like...

Though admittedly photoshopped slightly, r66 pic of the brothers is perfect. It must kill them to see this all over the net.

Maybe like their father, they find it easier to lie if they’ve convinced themselves the lie is the truth.

Fuck R2, Boris, or whatever the hell you want to call him.

Continue...

[quote]"Never mind this Trump fellow, his continued crimes, attacks on America or my 10-year history of shilling his snake oil and causing Republicans to lose three branches of power. It's old news and grown-ups don't look at that."

r40, I'm r23 and I didn't say anything even remotely like that. Again, if you were a good troll and not a newbie who didn't know even the basics of trolling, you'd have (a) been far more brief and (b) not tried to pass off a fake paraphrase/quote as real, when it was so trivially easy to prove wrong.

Did he go full Tom Cruise? 😂

R69 'Continue' Move on is more like it!

STOP FEEDING TROLLS

Poor Eric, the forgotten Trump.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of hearing pathetic stories about the Trumps. I hope they live long enough to someday turn up on WorldStar or People of Walmart.

What's the latest with Prince Harry and Meager Muckle?

He should have committed suicide. And put us out of his misery.

There’s still hope.

r70 thinks things EXACTLY like that and worse every day. Nothing r70 says matters because he's a partisan, lying troll who just cuts and pastes the Republican Party propaganda for the day to DL.

The good news for Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker is that their book is going to be a smashing success.

The deranged Boris of DL has predicted it to fail, just like Democrats taking the House, Biden taking the White House and Democrats taking the Senate.

The opposite of Boris's predictions always come true and now the jackass hasn't learned a thing! So when r28 says "no one is buying the book," it's time for Leonnig and Rucker to pop the champagne!

Real, FRENCH champagne!

^ any thoughts on the book?

Reading this article reminded me of election night, how I was literally freaking until read & re-read Steve Schmidt's tweet telling everyone to calm the fuck down & wait for ALL votes to be counted. He was ultimately right, but god that was a horrible night. It's one of the few times as a mature adult I seriously considered ending my life - Mary, I know - but still. It's still upsetting to still think about and it makes me genuinely grateful this country dodged a bullet

I hate Dump, and I never tire from hearing about him being batted around.

Sick of posters like r2 who want to tell everyone else what they can and cannot post. Scroll forward!

R80, I know how you felt. I too had people around me—family members actually—who had to calm me down that night. And then Saturday came!!

R75 glad you finally found a purpose in life.

R84, apparently you have no purpose in life.

R82 No orders issued from me. It was a declarative sentence not a command.

R85 Was you mother's name Brandy?

Poor Eric the posters have abandoned him?

Dull trolls get blocked. Be interesting, for fuck's sake. Take up a cause like Elias Koteas or yellow skin.

R83 Did they gift you with a vibrator?

No but I like to sip some on occasion.

[quote]Nothing r70 says matters because he's a partisan, lying troll who just cuts and pastes the Republican Party propaganda for the day to DL.

I suspect you're the troll who just makes stuff up, hoping to fool the people who aren't paying much attention, but anyone who thinks you're telling the truth needs to use the ignore trick and see for themselves that I haven't said anything even remotely Republican on DL, ever.

I'm the one in the Chuck Schumer thread pointing out to the right wing trolls that Schumer IS doing something (lots of somethings) and they're a bunch of lying scumbags, for example.

Is Harry Styles still dating Olivia?

Yeah, time to block the Dump lover. They might be of some use if they were remotely clever, but… it is what it is.

Oh look! There's a sale at JC Pennys!

Attention K Mart shoppers!

Me, I like to keep up with the Kardashians.

Ri2 isn’t the Dump lover, whom I’ve blocked. I still see r92’s post.

R98 Do you know how to effectively do anything?

Anybody read the book yet? Do dish!

Did you see how tall Baron is? Gives new meaning to Trump Towers.

Demi Moore's abs look amazing for a 53 year old!

Imagine how many DLers would have a dull existence without the Trumps?

That cute Miami Mayor thinks the US should consider air strikes against Cuba! I say no way!

[quote]Imagine how many DLers would have a dull existence without the Trumps?

Honey, please... There's always Miss Lindsey.

Speaking of Miami, the death toll in the building collapse has risen to 90. I wonder if any of them were Trumpers.

R99, did you not read my post? I said I blocked the Dump lover, I.e. the poster who’s been shitting on this thread, i.e., r2. But I still see r92.

R107 So enthralling. You should start your own thread.

^^ Is there an echo in here?

I wonder if Miss Lindsay will buy the book to save Eric from possible embarrassment.

R108, why? You couldn’t read it anyway.

R109 No echo outside of your hollow head.

*

R104 Francis Suarez is my kind of dicktator!

Thank you r107 but as far as I'm concerned, if people believe that I'm a Republican operative sent here to cut & paste Repig talking points, just because I teased some dork for calling this book "literature" and this thread a "discussion of literature," then they can put me on block.

Done.

R115 Who's 'they'?

R116 I'll alert the media.

Eric was probably just flapping his gums

[quote]Sick of DLers and others who can't quit the former guy in the White House. Move on!

Perhaps you can make a video crying "leave Eric alone."

If you've learned nothing while monitoring this site for trolling, it's that we revel in the pain and misfortunes of others.

Does the book mention me?

Wait! The Trumps actually thought they were going to win???!!

is the book available in Slovenia?

They were expecting a Russian miracle like in the first election.

Exactly, r120. Especially Dump’s.

Let's get something perfectly straight: Republicans only fucking win because we have a shitty, antiquated system. This baboon doesn't get that the majority of this country hates his fucking father and hates most every Republican nom in the general election. 8 out of 9 elections had the Dem winning the popular vote.

Most people in this country at every level votes for Dems.

In a fair country, we wouldn't even fucking know who McConnell was.

It's really weird that some guy who agreed with one of my posts later called me a troll for the same post he agreed with.

Also weird that someone who bragged on another thread that they knew how to see someone's posts in their ignored tab suddenly doesn't know how to use the ignore trick.

Then there's the guy who posted a bunch of nonsensical replies, I guess to try to derail the thread.

And they ALL are calling everyone else secret Trumpsters and trolls.

Getting more than a whiff of Davida in here. She probably read that "Threads from 2020 and prior" thread and freaked out, as well she should.

R127, I’ve seen poo shoes referenced many, many times on DL, but I thought she was long gone. Is she still active and posting on here? She has to be in her 80s by now.

She's probably only 60 or so. I'm sure she's still around, she just doesn't post much about George Clooney anymore so she's fallen off peoples' radar.

She's doing a summer stock Side Show with Angelyne, r128.

Do we learn any new secrets about the mail order bride?

[quote]R115 Who's 'they'?

Demi Lovato?

[quote]Sick of DLers and others who can't quit the former guy in the White House. Move on!

How are you so fucking stupid? Listen, you shithead: What this fucking, unqualified, orange parasite did to this country, doesn't allow us to just "move on." He took a steaming, huge shit on this country and his MAGAts are currently feeding on it. We would love nothing more than to put him, his fucking family and his cockroach supporters in a giant dump truck and throw them off the edge of the earth...since most of those idiots believe the earth is flat.

R133 It hasn't allowed YOU to move on. Speak for yourself.

R134? The right to vote affects us all, you clown. What happened on Jan 6 is why we can't move on. You've moved on because you're an asshole who only thinks about yourself.

Who's Millie Bobby Brown?

[quote]R115 Who's 'they'?

The people who think I'm you, asshole.

You're r2 and you're a Repig who has been trolling COVID and political threads. When I said what I did at r23 about the dink calling this thread a "discussion on literature" I had no idea you had already been saying the same thing, but as part of your Repig trolling.

Because only about three people on DL seem to know how to use the ignore trick (including r116 who bragged about being able to use it on another thread, but clearly doesn't know how) everyone just assumed I was you. Even when someone said that I wasn't R2, people like you kept saying otherwise.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who still thinks I'm you should put me on block.

R131 She was a catalog model and the former guy in the White House ordered her!

Thanks for turning this thread into a complete waste. BOTH OF YOU.

His mouth looks like a dirty, caved-in, overused BUTTHOLE, complete with dingleberries. Ewwww. Kill it.

I'm waiting for a book on Hunter Biden with plenty of photos!

Nude photos, obvs.

R126 and R133 and R135 Have you ever heard of RA? (Rageaholics anonymous)

R143, when I storm the Capitol to spread my feces after I can't find elected officials to kill because I refused to "move on," from a democratic election my orange clown lost, then you can give me that advice.

I don't buy it that they were stunned by a Biden victory. Trump knew from the get-go that Biden was the Democrat to worry about. That's why he blackmailed the Ukrainian president and risked impeachment.

R144 so your spreading you feces on DL now?

What a dumb comeback, R146. And it's you're*

Honestly, you're boring. Ignore.

R147 Changing minds and diapers one post at a time!

Eric is much like his dad. Broad shoulders, big muscles, strong chest.

^ Though he doesn't have loose lips!

R137 you need a ventilator!

[quote] Eric is much like his dad. Broad shoulders, big muscles, strong chest.

Stop it, Serguei. Nobody's buying what you're selling.

I just block anyone on DL now who calls any other poster "Boris" OR "Ling-Ling."

Enough is enough.

R142 and blow by blow descriptions.

"Eric is much like his dad. Broad shoulders, big muscles, strong chest."

He's a cuck. Lara is the boss and the balls in that family

I'm sure Donald Sr. being on the verge of being displeased with something is a signal for everyone around him to panic.

They were still crying when the fat fuck left the WH.

I firmly believe we need to ignore the clickbait stories about every stupid and incendiary thing a Trump says or does.

Except shit like this which highlights just how stupid, inept, and incompetent the whole lot of them are. More more more of these embarrassing tales, please!

This thread is ripe with the odor of Bellagio poo…

Well, this is terrifying. The book by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker is going to be big, I think.

[quote]Eric is much like his dad. Broad shoulders, big muscles, strong chest.

You left out "non-functioning brain."

[quote]I just block anyone on DL now who calls any other poster "Boris" OR "Ling-Ling." Enough is enough.

I don't give a fuck whom you block, Boris.

Speaking of Carol Leonnig, has anyone read her book about the Secret Service? Is it good?

[quote] "Donald Trump's Final Year"

IF FUCKING ONLY.

Jesus, I wish I hadn't read that. They were afraid of him using nuclear weapons, ffs. We were very, very lucky. I don't think most people understand just his close to disaster we were. And it isn't over. It will never be really over. He unleashed evil.

I've always understood exactly who Trump was. Growing up in NY, you knew what a pompous, self-absorbed douchebag he was and here's the most frightening part: He literally doesn't think using nukes is such a big deal nor is calling for people to be shot. He has absolutely no soul, no conscience, but in a buffoonish way. He doesn't think anything he wants to do is monstrous if it benefits him specifically. It's not even that he's evil and smart the way a Putin is, it's literally like dealing with a toddler who wants to punish the "bad man" if he doesn't get his way.

I knew as well. I had been reading about him for years. I found him to be repulsive even then. My blood ran cold when he was elected. For four long, torturous years we suffered and were traumatized. I thought it was over when Biden won. We are going to be dealing with the hatred and evil he unleased forever.

[quote] My blood ran cold when he was elected.

Same here. I knew we had millions of repugnant people in this country, but I didn't think their prejudice was so strong that they would allow the stupidest man --who wouldn't know the constitution even if James Madison himself read it to him dressed as a pornstar-- to ever become president. Sickening beyond belief.

@r160, Anyone paying attention knew he was planning a coup, but when his Generals all signed a statement saying their loyalty was to the constitution and not the President I knew it would be difficult to pull off a coup without an army. Glad it turned out like it did, it could have been so much worse

What frightens me above everything else is that anyone would do it on behalf of such a fucking idiot! Trump is a fucking clown. I mean the only explanation had to be that they knew he was a clown and to just continue to use him as a conduit for their nefarious ideology. No other explanation for powerful, intelligent people to go along with this imbecile except for that fact.

R171, I firmly believe that’s why they’re still up his ass today.

[quote]even if James Madison himself read it to him dressed as a pornstar

This is a fascinating thought, actually. Would he keep the wig on?

Absolutely, R172. Most of these assholes know the election wasn't stolen, but like with 9/11 being used by Neocons to get the Iraq war, they're using the lies about election fraud to pass these voter suppression laws because it's the only way the GOP can maintain any power. Most people vote for Dems. The GOP can't win unless it's through people not being allowed to vote or gerrymandering.

[quote]This is a fascinating thought, actually. Would he keep the wig on?

Yes, but it would be a platinum, cheap blonde one to keep Trump's attention

Before Trump, I never understood how Hitler came to power. I didn’t understand how he got elected and remained in power. I know, different countries and different times but what is similar is that so many people will blindly follow a soulless shell of a man. I thought we, as a country, were further along than this. The past four years were terrifying.

Scapegoating, R175. Always starts with scapegoating.

R175 Hitler and the Nazis never actually won an election. The Social Democrats always pulled in more voters (think of the Democrats winning the popular vote in seven of the last eight presidential elections). He was made chancellor as part of a power-sharing deal, and once he was in office basically declared a dictatorship.

R46 A book at #6=millions of dollars?

[quote]Anyone paying attention knew he was planning a coup, but when his Generals all signed a statement saying their loyalty was to the constitution and not the President I knew it would be difficult to pull off a coup without an army

Agreed & I think that's why the repigs feel free to shit all over Milley now: he stood up to Trump & told the rest of the brass to do likewise. If Milley had been a different guy - or if some sort of Flynn-type is in control the next time - I don't know that we'll be so lucky.

But, don't ALL elected officials pledge loyalty to the Constitution and not a President? IMHO, it's sort of time to stop concerning/fretting ourselves over Trump but aggressively go after and hold accountable ALL those that enabled him and violated their oath to the Constitution. Unfortunately, that list is QUITE long.

Mark Milley saved America. It will take years for it to come out and he almost didn't (I cringed when I saw him with the bible posse to Lafayette Park and the church), but really if he wasn't there they would have done it.

Even more unfortunately, nobody on that list will ever face any consequences.

With all due respect R181, I wouldn't just credit Mark Milley. There are a few more who should be credited. What is very scary is that those few number less than 20 individuals who have saved Democracy. John Kelly should be court martialed, IMHO. All of these people KNEW the dangers of Trump. Putin must be overjoyed in knowing how close he has come to overthrowing Democracy, (and, of course he will try again--maybe succeed the next time), and how CHEAPLY it has cost! Employing the internet and strategic financial donations are clearly much more effective than any number of troops, tanks, missiles, or bombs!

Eric could pull off some Nancy Oleson drag.

Is Eric still smarting because his people lost the Dominion War in the Alpha Quadrant?

I don't understand how a person like Trump ends up becoming what he's become. For years it was all about his " brand" and then he decided he wants to get into politics and run for president?

I know the story of wanting to boost his businesses visibility etc. But to actually get " elected" and then behave the way he did while in office, what was behind that that he would go from being a somewhat liked celebrity " business man" to actually being okay with being hated? Was he trying to become a hated figure? Because his election was something that was never supposed to happen, they said he was completely stunned on election night 2016. And then he just ran with it.

There's going to be shit coming out on Trump long after he's dead and gone. Shit that people should have prosecuted Trump for decades before he even ran for president. The only reason Trump has never been charged or gone after in a serious way in NY state, is because both Democrats and Republicans looked the other way because of campaign donations and because he had powerful people protecting him through their friendship, like Rudy Giuliani etc.

So many people failed this country and it's people.

R186 Bingo! I was surprised when New York State authorities went after him this year (we'll see how it all turns out, though) because it so obviously raises the question: Why was this crook allowed to run amok in New York for decades? Whatever your party, New York politics are a cesspool.

[quote]I don't understand how a person like Trump ends up becoming what he's become. For years it was all about his " brand" and then he decided he wants to get into politics and run for president? I know the story of wanting to boost his businesses visibility etc. But to actually get " elected" and then behave the way he did while in office, what was behind that that he would go from being a somewhat liked celebrity " business man" to actually being okay with being hated? Was he trying to become a hated figure? c

Hmm... I would debate with you that Trump's attitude and personality were formed far long before he became POTUS. The formation of his being was formed far before even as he was a little boy playing "army" with his wooden soldiers. Like the rest of us "something" made an impression upon him that just manifested and was enabled as he grew and became older. Maybe it was a movie. a celebrity. a politician, etc. I recently watched an interview that featured Viola Davis and she spoke about how poor beyond poor she was but when she saw the film "Sounder" starring Cicely Tyson that she was impressed that she wanted to act. The same with Trump (and, many of us) "something" made an impression. You see... Trump (in a sense) had no choice but to become POTUS. His "being" could not accept anything less. That's why (for him) it doesn't matter what he did or did not do as POTUS. What mattered, (to his being), is that he was the POTUS. Does that make sense?

No, r188. It doesn't make sense.

Trump was born a toxic narcissist, and his background and upbringing enabled and encouraged it. His older brother, who apparently didn't have a personality disorder, was sidelined and bullied out of the family.

He is a toxic product of a toxic family, and he has spread his rot on, not only to his own children, but to the country as a whole.

[quote]I just block anyone on DL now who calls any other poster "Boris" OR "Ling-Ling." Enough is enough.

Cool story, Boris. We block you, too.

And, how do/will Republicans respond to this? Who will ask them and hold them accountable?

"Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.

R187, because it took new blood for there to be the desire to pursue him. He absolutely should've been prosecuted years ago, but the people in control simply wouldn't because white collar crimes, esp, in the 80s were never taken seriously by NY prosecutors.

It took Letitia James doing what her white, male predecessors never would do.

R192 Well, Spitzer went after Wall St. crooks, but his own nose wasn't clean enough to survive their counterattacks.

True, R193. Frankly, I do think women need to be the ones to do this because they're less scandal-prone.

Many in NYC were bamboozled by Trump. Many (even the very wealthy and very educated) bought into the Trump myth. Being conned can happen to the best. Just think of the many people taken by Bernie Madoff and Jeffrey Epstein. Trump is a savant at marketing himself and that's what makes him such an excellent conman. But, his con had unraveled long before Trump became POTUS. NYC was onto him. The Trumps were not very liked by most of NYC. But, I believe that things happen for a reason and therefore we had a Trump presidency.

I won't say that Hillary Clinton was an awful candidate but she was an awful candidate. Republicans executed a very successful hatred campaign against her, and along with her own missteps and overcautiousness, people just HATED her and couldn't even give a reason why. So, Trump happened. But, if we (the USA) can pull out of this mess then the public will have to demand that those who aided and enabled the Trump presidency be held accountable and punished just as much as we all pray that the Trumps will be.

"The Trumps were not very liked by most of NYC."

Well, there's an understatement.

R274 R290 You have archaic notions regarding sexuality. Are you suggesting that gay men want to dismiss Ford because they are not sexually attracted to women? Many heterosexual men and women were skeptical of her accusations and the absolute lack of specificity and the dearth of anyone who could corroborate her claims of something that happened 37 years prior. So in your mind gay men probably shouldn't be allowed to sit on a jury in a case that had a woman making accusations against a man because they couldn't be fair or impartial. You are aware that closet case Cory Bookman and Pete Buttigieg supported Ford? And what are you doing on DL?

What is up with Eric and Don Jr's shitty beards (not the girlfriends)? They allegedly have all this money and they always look like unshaven hobos

Took wrong turn at Albuquerque, R197? The Kavanaugh thread is THAT way.

Jamie Spears should resign as Britney’s conservator and apply to take over Eric’s life.

Jamie can come by any time.

The reason these books are important is because they fill out the picture of what just happened to the United States in the recent past. It can't be forgotten. Some sociopath with a better face, more charm and a ton more intelligence can use Trump's playbook and use it better. I want everyone who worked with the guy to spill it all and maybe some supporters will begin to feel peer pressure to move on to saner Republicans.

Does this answer your question, R198?

Poor, ugly gummy.

I bet he squealed like a piggy to anyone who would listen.

[quote]“Trump and his family became apoplectic as the night ticked on

Alas, not apoplectic enough ...

[quote] What is up with Eric and Don Jr's shitty beards

Eric and don jr's first wife came from money. They chose to marry these assholes for love. I think lara would love to become the 4th mrs donald trump.

I would love to know the real story about why she abruptly dropped out of running for office in North Carolina

Fun Fact: Ivana is NOT Eric's biological mother. After Ivanak was born, Ivana's uterus collapsed and they needed a surrogate to birth Trump's 3rd child.

Hence we have Eric's real biological mother...

[quote] I would debate with you that Trump's attitude and personality were formed far long before he became POTUS. The formation of his being was formed far before even as he was a little boy playing "army" with his wooden soldiers. Like the rest of us "something" made an impression upon him that just manifested and was enabled as he grew and became older. You see... Trump (in a sense) had no choice but to become POTUS. His "being" could not accept anything less. That's why (for him) it doesn't matter what he did or did not do as POTUS. What mattered, (to his being), is that he was the POTUS. Does that make sense?

That's a bunch of horseshit. He was always a sociopath. He didn't set out to become president. He always said he was going to run and then he tried a few times as a moneymaking venture, because the banks knew he was a failure and didn't want to loan anymore money to him. That caused him to borrow from Russia. By all accounts, he was shocked when he won the nomination. He went ahead because he knew it would be money for him, at a time he desperately needed it and buildings with his name on it, were starting to remove his name

What type of money does Lara Trump come from?

I know Don Jrs ex has marinara sauce $$$. But I don't know a thing about the family money of Lara Trump.

By the way, Lara Trump has become a real monster. I don't know if this is who she's always been, but she has become a truly ugly person right along with the rest of that family.

Weren't they all liberal and Democrats before Trump blew everything up and ran for president?

I think Lara comes from convenience-store-stickup money.

^😂

R210!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Even when Trump tries to show he was right about something, he basically admits he is hopelessly stupid and ridiculous. His response to Milley talking about what a dumb fucking Nazi he is, is to basically admit he appoints people for idiotic reasons of revenge and petty grievance and then is hopelessly surprised when they turn out not to be #bestpeople. He is so stupid that he thinks statements like this make him sound tough and smart and in control when they just reveal what a complete toddler he is every minute of every day. Trumpistas, what the fuck is your damage that you think this shitty excuse for a man should be president for life?

Lara Trump has always been a foul piece of shit.

These books are just out and already topping the bestseller lists. But way more than that, just two weeks ago Cruz, Hawley, Jordan and Miss Lindsey were claiming Trump as the head of The Party. And looked forward to him taking back the presidency in 2024. Reasonable republicans (if you define reasonable as someone you might consider a spirited debate-most you must never engage for fear of the stupidity rubbing off) reasonable republicans want to drop it. "Trump is over, let it go". but sorry no, Trump was the the key speaker at CPAC. Trump will be running in and winning in 2024. He's already starting up his stumping.. He's your cross to bear. You hitched your wagon to a smelly piece of shit. He don't rub off that easy, just because you declare "he's over".

[quote]Trump will be running in and winning in 2024.

In his dreams.

Even if he doesn't win the nomination then, r216, he will be picking every Republican allowed to run for congress in 2022. Which is sad and hilarious and terrifying and hopeful all at the same time.

He can only "win" if people's votes don't actually count. That's the irony and usual projection of the shit party known as the GOP. They are the ones who turn off the overwhelming majority of voters, that's why they need actual fraud to win.

The Dems need to explain to the Republicans that if they start stealing elections on behalf of that two-bit embarrassing treasonous incompetent crook Trump, the shit is going to hit the fan in a bigger way than they can imagine. It will make the George Floyd protests look like a grade-school field trip.

Given all of the revelations in these books Miss Nancy should immediately rescind the invitation that would allow Kevin McCarthy to choose 5 Republicans to sit on the January 6th oversight committee. Instead she should choose 5 steadfast Republicans (ex: Christie Todd-Whitman. Tom Kean. heck! Maybe Jeb Bush) to represent the Republican point of view.

[quote]These books are just out and already topping the bestseller lists. But way more than that, just two weeks ago Cruz, Hawley, Jordan and Miss Lindsey were claiming Trump as the head of The Party. And looked forward to him taking back the presidency in 2024.

IMHO, what is needed are grass-roots organizations like the Lincoln Project to do immediate massive marketing that will forever tie those people to Trump and his sedition and treasonous actions.

I wish I could believe that just pointing out what a complete treasonous cunt Trump and every Trumpista is would actually affect electoral outcomes, but sadly we can't count on that. I like the old Adlai Stevenson joke:

When someone shouted out to him that he has the vote of every decent American he shouted back, "thanks, but I need a majority."

That's an awesome quote, R222

My hunch is that the pending criminal charges against him is to ensure that he will never run for a political office again, rather than putting him in jail.

R224 I feel the same way. I think they just want to stop Trump from being able to ever hold elected office ever again.

I think I could settle for that. Trump just needs to be snipped.

R219 I agree, I don't see Americans just sitting at home taking the Republican parties bullshit if they start stealing elections.

If there's anything we learned from the George Floyd protests, it's that Americans have proven that we absolutely can get in the streets and stay there for months on end without getting tired. But like you said, it'll be a whole lot worse if Republicans think they have the power to steal elections.

No one is going to tolerate that. This isn't 2000 anymore, people are sick and tired of the system just walking all over people. The people will absolutely bring the American experiment to an end before they allow Republicans to rule unelected.

Republicans are crazy if they think people are just going to except that. They have another thing coming.

I don't care if I'm called a troll: Chuck Schumer needs to GO. He sucks. He's a spineless asshole. I hate that he's my senator.

@AriBerman Jul 14 Asked if Schumer or other members of Congress had made new pledges to advance federal voting legislation, state Rep. Senfronia Thompson said: “Not a one.”

“I wish they had,” she added.

A LOT of people will tolerate that r226. This nation has a Nazi streak. That has become obvious lately.

But that doesn't mean we are lost or hopeless. It will take people taking to the streets as they did for the protests. It's not guaranteed, but it definitely can happen. And once again, we are going to have to count on black people. Most white people simply suck at giving a shit about democracy. Sadly.

R227 Well then, Democrats must not like power than. People turned out in huge numbers to get Biden elected along with Warnock and Ossoff, I voted for all three if them. And Democrats are going to lose it all if they don't get their shit together.

All of this because Trump and Rudy Giuliani created a stupid "big lie" conspiracy.

This is exactly why people are apathetic about elections and why they don't vote, shit that's really needed dosen't get done. And a strong voting rights bill is needed desperately. We shouldn't even be here, thus shit was supposed to be settled in during the LBJ administration.

Republicans truly are the enemy.

[quote] And once again, we are going to have to count on black people.

In particular, black women. They're the reason Roy Moore never got to the senate. They're the reason GA went blue. They are the most reliable voting bloc. They are the ones getting arrest at the Capitol trying to fight for voting rights. They are the ones who are trying to save this country from itself.

arrested*

^Yeah, there are no white Democrats, no white liberals, no other members of this coalition who got Biden into office--just saintly black women.

Most white people do vote shitty, namely Republican, but yes r232, Biden could not be president without a decent amount of white votes. But the backbone of people who actually give a shit about democracy in this country does for now remain black people. They worked harder for it and that spirit does carry over still.

[quote]^Yeah, there are no white Democrats, no white liberals, no other members of this coalition who got Biden into office--just saintly black women.

Um, yeah, it was in fact BLACK people, esp. women who are the reason Biden fucking won. You're so desperate to look like a fucking "victim" that you think I'm saying it to be "sentimental" rather than factual. Starting with South Carolina and Jim Clayburn. Then, GEORGIA. Sorry, the droplets of white Dems there had nothing to do with giving us TWO senators and the state itself.

Why exactly is this a fight you want to start? The fact is that the majority of WHITE people vote for Republicans. Period.

I must correct you, R234. As a lifelong democrat living in Georgia I have worked my ass off for years to vote the repukes out of office. I am far from the only white women here who has. The women, period, have worked and fought to end their stranglehold over this state.

I was so glad when Warnock and Ossoff were elected. I felt proud to be apart of that.

R235, with all due respect (and I do mean respect), I'm pointing out reality: You are unfortunately a minority where you are - as admirable as I find you, it was in fact the black population who gave Biden the win and they do in fact deserve much of the credit and it does start with Jim Clayburn who was the kingmaker in SC. Without him, Biden wouldn't have even gotten the nom.

I don't understand what is so "offensive" about pointing out reality? I didn't say no white people voted dem, but I am saying WHY Biden *could* win and why we got TWO GA senators and the state

Look, I'm one of the few Dems in the only red district in friggin NYC (in Brooklyn). My rep is a deplorable because I'm stuck in a voting bloc with Staten Island where all of the deplorable nutcases are, and we couldn't pull off a Dem victory in my district.

Sorry, Jim Clyburn*

R324 The only one I see wanting to start a fight is you. The fact is, if you want to have a successful coalition, you have to acknowledge all the members of the coalition.

No, R239. I wasn't the one who was looking to fight since I didn't respond with a snide "saintly" to mock what I had written

R239, reread my post at R230. Did it sound like anything I had written was said in a hostile way? Then look at the response to it - unless that was you, then you have a chip on your shoulder.

[quote]You are aware that closet case Cory Bookman ...

Who's Cory Bookman?

[quote]I was so glad when Warnock and Ossoff were elected. I felt proud to be apart of that.

You were apart of that? So you mean you were separate from those who voted for them?

Oh, DEAR!

"Apart" is never followed by the word "of", only the word "from", otherwise you mean "a part". Gen Zers just use "apart" for both I've noticed!

[quote]Who's Cory Bookman?

Buffalo Butt's kid brother!

[quote] Um, yeah, it was in fact BLACK people, esp. women who are the reason Biden fucking won.

No, black people are too small a percentage to attribute the victory to. Even if 100% of eligible black people voted, and 100 percent of them voted for Biden, you can win an election with 13% of the population.

The one demographic that absolutely won it for Biden? Women. And I say that as a man. Biden decisively carried the female vote, 50% of the US population.

Can’t^^^

R237- Yes, you are correct about that, and thank you. I am so sorry that you escaped the deplorables here in Georgia only to find yourself surrounded again! I hate them more everyday. The women here, and yes, the majority are black, they work so hard to vote the racist repubs out. All Dems have to work twice as hard because of right wing cheating in elections. Even Fat Ass45 said Georgia is the most corrupt state. That is why he was so enraged when they (shockingly) refused him.

Whew child! No need to post that ugly Eric pic. We all remember how hideous he is.

R248 = Marla Gibbs

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America 07/15/21

Despite massive Voter Fraud and Irregularities during the 2020 Presidential Election Scam, that we are now seeing play out in very big and important States, I never threatened, or spoke about, to anyone, a coup of our Government. So ridiculous! Sorry to inform you, but an Election is my form of "coup," and if I was going to do a coup, one of the last people I would want to do it with is General Mark Milley. He got his job only because the world’s most overrated general, James Mattis, could not stand him, had no respect for him, and would not recommend him. To me the fact that Mattis didn’t like him, just like Obama didn’t like him and actually fired Milley, was a good thing, not a bad thing. I often act counter to people's advice who I don’t respect.

In any event, I lost respect for Milley when we walked together to St. John’s Church (which was still smoldering from a Radical Left fire set the day before), side by side, a walk that has now been proven to be totally appropriate—and the following day Milley choked like a dog in front of the Fake News when they told him they thought he should not have been walking with the President, which turned out to be incorrect. He apologized profusely, making it a big story, instead of saying I am proud to walk with and protect the President of the United States. Had he said that, it would have all been over, no big deal, but I saw at that moment he had no courage or skill, certainly not the type of person I would be talking “coup” with. I’m not into coups!

In fact, around the same time Milley, in a conversation, was an advocate of changing all of the names of our Military Forts and Bases. I realized then, also, he was a much different person than I had hoped. I said to him, “spend more time thinking about China and Russia, and less time on being politically correct.”

But never during my Administration did Milley display what he is showing now. He was not “woke.” Actually, I don’t believe he ever was, but the way I look at Milley, he’s just a better politician than a general, trying to curry favor with the Radical Left and the absolute crazy people espousing a philosophy which will destroy our Country!

[quote]He got his job only because the world’s most overrated general, James Mattis, could not stand him, had no respect for him, and would not recommend him. To me the fact that Mattis didn’t like him, just like Obama didn’t like him and actually fired Milley, was a good thing, not a bad thing. I often act counter to people's advice who I don’t respect.

What a nasty son of a bitch!

[quote]If there's anything we learned from the George Floyd protests, it's that Americans have proven that we absolutely can get in the streets and stay there for months on end without getting tired.

And the months of protest accomplished what, exactly? Yes, Derek Chauvin got convicted, but last I checked, police are still killing black men.

Politicians and the oligarchs who control them don't care if Americans take to the streets -- their money and power insulates them from any threat or inconvenience. Protests won't make Republicans rethink their ongoing efforts to disenfranchise voters and steal elections. Only votes can do that.

R252, change doesn’t happen overnight, it happens over decades. And I do believe there is a sea change going on regarding police departments. You just won’t see it for awhile. So it’s important to maintain the activism in all ways—voting, protesting etc. The funny thing is Dump actually helps our cause. I believe the loathing is so deep among those who hate him that it energizes them. Repigs actually would be wiser to back someone less controversial, but they’re all stupid, which I guess is good for us in the long run.

Is this the ones who’s fucking the old coke whore?

R245 I looked at the numbers.

Total votes for Biden-Harris: 81,283, 098

Number of white votes for Biden-Harris: 49,582,690

Number of black votes for Biden-Harris: 16,256,620

So Biden-Harris got three times more white votes than black votes, but that reality doesn't seem to have any effect on the narrative of "whites vote shitty" and white people are all Republican racists, which, ironically, given polarization, probably creates more Republican voters, because white voters of the more unreflective type will see the Republican Party as more naturally their home.

R255, what a dummy you are and not even putting into context what I wrote. So desperate to be a victim that you're purposely ignoring my point. We don't have an electoral system where the actual votes mean anything. Why are you people acting as though I ever said "white people bad"?

Some white person voting for them in NY or MA or NJ or CT has nothing to do with where the votes are *actually needed to win*, so why in the hell would you post how many white people voted for them as if that was the point I made?

Joe Biden would not have even been the nominee if not for Jim Clyburn.

R257 I totally agree that Biden wouldn't have been the nominee if not for Jim Clyburn. I LIKE Jim Clyburn. I don't like you, though. You're belligerent and not very bright.

I couldn't care less, R258. The feeling isn't mutual since I wouldn't waste that energy to hate someone I don't actually know.

You two bitches need to get a room at the Versace hotel and...you know.

Is R250 a parody? ‘I’m not into coups.’ WHO TALKS LIKE THIS.

R261, he's very Queens and he's also very stupid and ignorant and has never grasped how serious it is to be president and that he can't so easily speak of dropping nukes or shooting people, because he's always been a showman.

[quote]because he's always been a showman.

It takes some skill and at least a smattering of intelligence to be a showman. He's a carnival barker. Everything with him is "the biggest," "the greatest," "the best ever." Anything his enemies do is "the worst in history" or "the biggest scandal ever."

^No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of his fellow Americans.

Agreed, R263.

Don't forget: "Greatest witch hunt in history"

Yeah, I'm sure the people actually killed during Salem would disagree, Donny

[quote]Is this the ones who’s fucking the old coke whore?

You'll have to be more specific.

If one was writing a movie script about ill equipped fool who's elected president, and you had that character saying and doing the idiotic fuck ups Trump conjures regularly, the story would seem over the top and out of touch with the modern world. It floors me he gets away with it.

R267- It is what sickens me most about this. Him?!! Really?!! How the fuck could anyone be influenced by him?! He is nauseating, without one-not one- redeeming quality. He is painfully stupid, slovenly, rude, a bully therefore a coward, no manners, no charm, no humor, no guts, no glory. He doesn't even like animals. He maliciously hurts and damages every living being in his path, especially his own children. He takes sadistic delight in harming, cheating, belittling, bulling, pushing everyone around him. I wouldn't follow the fat fucker across a room much less into battle. He is a fucking imbecile. He reads at a third grade level, and I am being generous. What in the ever loving hell do they see in this psychopath? This sadistic, ignorant, arrogant bully? How can this nothing of a diseased human failure be the cause of the fall of our democracy? Make it make some fucking sense! Sorry. Ranting. Posting while pissed. I have no words to describe my hatred for him and the garbage that have chosen to betray their fellow Americans and their Country for this walking diseased curse on mankind. Please excuse mistakes. Too damn tired and angry to care. He should have never been allowed in the WH. They knew what a danger he was. So many people failed us. Why? No one has ever attempted to explain to us why every intelligence and security agency failed this country and it's people on Every. Single. Level.

^ Mary!

‘I Alone Can Fix It’ book excerpt: Inside Trump’s Election Day and the birth of the ‘big lie’

At the end of a tumultuous day, the defiant president refused to accept the signs that he was losing the White House contest to Joe Biden. “I won in a landslide and they’re taking it back,” Trump told advisers.

Finally, Election Day had arrived. The morning of Nov. 3, 2020, President Trump was upbeat. The mood in the West Wing was good. Some aides talked giddily of a landslide. Several women who worked in the White House arrived wearing red sweaters in a show of optimism, while some Secret Service agents on the president’s detail sported red ties for the occasion. Trump’s voice was hoarse from his mad dash of rallies, but he thought his exhausting final sprint had sealed the deal. He considered Joe Biden to be a lot of things, but a winner most definitely was not one of them. “I can’t lose to this f------ guy,” Trump told aides.

Around noon, his detail whisked Trump across the Potomac River to visit his campaign headquarters in Arlington, where campaign manager Bill Stepien and the senior leadership briefed Trump in the conference room. Stepien outlined what to expect that night — when polls closed in each battleground state, how quickly votes should be tallied and which states would probably have the first projected winners. He explained that because of the huge number of mail-in ballots in many states, it might take long into the night for votes to be counted. Patience was in order.

Stepien explained to Trump that in many battleground states, the first votes to be recorded were expected to be in-person Election Day votes, which could lean Trump, while mail-in votes, which were likely to heavily favor Biden, would be added to the tally later as those ballots were processed. This meant that the early vote totals could well show Trump ahead by solid margins.

“It’s going to be good early,” Stepien told the boss. But, as he cautioned the president, those numbers would be incomplete and the margins probably would tighten later in the evening.

Trump then stepped out of the conference room and into the big open floor of cubicles to give a brief pep talk to scores of assembled staffers, who greeted him with raucous applause. A pool of journalists stood nearby to cover his remarks, and a reporter asked whether he had prepared an acceptance speech or a concession speech to deliver that evening.

“No, I’m not thinking about concession speech or acceptance speech yet,” Trump said. “Hopefully, we’ll be only doing one of those two. And, you know, winning is easy. Losing is never easy. Not for me it’s not.”

As Trump thought about winning or losing, the Pentagon brass was focused on keeping the peace. That morning, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper; Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and other defense officials were briefed about security concerns around the nation. If Trump won, officials expected large crowds of protesters to assemble in Washington, perhaps as many as 10,000 or 15,000 people. Law enforcement officials were monitoring cities, including Atlanta, Boston, Los Angeles, Norfolk, Philadelphia and San Diego, for likely protests.

Meanwhile, White House cooks and ushers were busy preparing to receive hundreds of guests for an election night viewing party. Trump’s original plan had been to stage his “victory” party at the Trump International Hotel a few blocks away on Pennsylvania Avenue. But that plan had been scotched a few days earlier, as the president’s wishes for a celebration at his luxury hotel ran headlong into the District’s public health regulations for the coronavirus. No more than 50 people could gather at an indoor venue in the city.

Trump’s campaign and his White House political team had nearly 400 people they wanted to invite for election night, so they moved the party to the White House, which is on federal property and therefore not subject to local ordinances. The choice of location broke with a solemn tradition of never using the White House for overt political purposes, a norm Trump had already tossed aside in August by delivering his Republican National Convention acceptance speech from the South Lawn.

Trump also used the White House to house his political operation, setting up two “war rooms” with computers, large-screen televisions and other equipment where campaign staffers would monitor election returns. The larger of the two war rooms was in government office space in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which is next to the West Wing and part of the White House campus, where roughly 60 staffers would have work stations from which to receive up-to-the-minute information from battleground states and track precinct data. The smaller war room was in the Map Room, on the ground level of the White House residence. Steeped in history, the Map Room took its name from World War II, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt turned it into a situation room with maps to track troop movements and to receive classified information on the war’s progress. Trump’s most senior aides planned to work through the night in the Map Room, now transformed into the campaign’s command center, where Stepien and his top deputies could analyze data and stay close to the president to brief him in person as needed.

This and other episodes recounted in this book are based on hundreds of hours of interviews with more than 140 people, including the most senior Trump administration officials, friends and outside advisers to the 45th president. Most of the people interviewed agreed to speak candidly only on the condition of anonymity. Scenes were reconstructed based on firsthand accounts and, whenever possible, corroborated by multiple sources and buttressed by a review of calendars, diary entries, internal memos and other correspondence among principals.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been working toward this night for four years. For her, election night in 2016 had been a nightmare, and she was determined not to allow a repeat in 2020. “That night was like getting kicked in the back by a mule over and over again,” she said in an interview. The California Democrat recalled thinking that night about Trump’s surprise victory: “It can’t be true. It can’t be happening to our country.”

Pelosi added: “You understand that this is not a person of sound mind. You understand that. You know that. He’s not of sound mind … When he first got elected, I was devastated because I thought Hillary Clinton was one of the best prepared people to be president — better than her husband, better than [Barack] Obama, better than George W. Bush. Maybe not better than George Herbert Walker Bush, because he had been a vice president. I don’t think any of the people I just mentioned would deny that she was better qualified, experienced, all the rest of it. So, the idea that he would get elected was shocking. It was shocking.”

Mitt Romney had been less shocked by Trump’s election — he had watched firsthand as the Republican Party was radicalized by the far right — but was just as determined to prevent a second Trump term. The senator from Utah said in an interview that he watched the election returns in California with his wife, Ann, son Craig and other family members, and felt a pit in his stomach. The early numbers looked surprisingly good for Trump. Biden was struggling in the quadrennial bellwether of Florida, even in Democrat-rich Miami-Dade County.

“I think he’s going to win,” Romney recalled telling his family. “Those polls were way off. I think he’s going to pull it out.”

At the White House, people liked what they were seeing. There was a party atmosphere. Staff hung out in West Wing offices chatting at least until 9 p.m. National Security Council officials celebrated in the Roosevelt Room. White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows served beer and food in his corner office. Another group of aides lingered outside White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany’s office, known as Upper Press. In the residence, scores of guests — Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress, television stars and other dignitaries — were drinking and milling around, mostly without masks save for Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, who kept his on. After a few too many swigs of wine and beer, some guests became rather animated as the night progressed.

Upstairs in the first family’s private quarters, Trump was glued to the television. He alternated between watching from his bedroom alone and from a family room with Melania, other family members and some of his most trusted aides, including Hope Hicks. Senior advisers including Stepien, Meadows, McEnany, Jason Miller, Stephen Miller and Ronna McDaniel were in the Map Room. Members of the president’s family — Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump and his wife, Lara, who worked on the campaign — came in and out much of the night, as did a pair of special party guests, Fox News stars Laura Ingraham and Jeanine Pirro.

They all turned to Matt Oczkowski for updates, sometimes as often as every few minutes. As the campaign’s top data cruncher, Oczkowski sat in front of a computer and performed real-time analysis of precinct data to stay ahead of state calls and to spot any trouble on the horizon. He liked what he saw early on. Florida offered the first good indicators. Trump was overperforming with Blacks and Latinos, especially among Cuban Americans in South Florida. Miami-Dade was going gangbusters for Trump. And turnout among the president’s base of rural Whites was high. Meadows, meanwhile, paid close attention to precinct returns out of North Carolina, which he had represented in Congress, and he felt confident about Trump’s chances there. And early returns out of Pennsylvania were encouraging.

At this point in the evening, Stepien tried to temper Trump’s optimism and keep the president’s mind from racing too far ahead of reality. “Stay calm,” the campaign manager told him. “We won’t know for some period of time.”

One Trump confidant who mostly stayed out of the Map Room was Rudolph W. Giuliani. That’s because the president’s personal attorney had set up his own command center upstairs on the party floor. Giuliani sat at a table in the Red Room with his son, Andrew, who worked at the White House in the Office of Public Liaison, staring intensely at a laptop watching vote tallies. The Giulianis made for an odd scene, as partygoers swirled around them. After a while, Rudy Giuliani started to cause a commotion. He was telling other guests that he had come up with a strategy for Trump and was trying to get into the president’s private quarters to tell him about it. Some people thought Giuliani may have been drinking too much and suggested to Stepien that he go talk to the former New York mayor. Stepien, Meadows and Jason Miller took Giuliani down to a room just off the Map Room to hear him out.

Giuliani went state by state asking Stepien, Meadows and Miller what they were seeing and what their plan was.

“What’s happening in Michigan?” he asked.

They said it was too early to tell, votes were still being counted and they couldn’t say.

“Just say we won,” Giuliani told them.

Same thing in Pennsylvania. “Just say we won Pennsylvania,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani’s grand plan was to just say Trump won, state after state, based on nothing. Stepien, Miller and Meadows thought his argument was both incoherent and irresponsible.

“We can’t do that,” Meadows said, raising his voice. “We can’t.”

ome competitive races were falling into place for Republicans. In South Carolina, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham faced a tough challenge from Democrat Jaime Harrison, an impressive candidate who had garnered national attention and raised a record-shattering $109 million. But South Carolina, long a bastion of Republicanism, stayed true to form. The race was called early, with Graham winning 54 percent to Harrison’s 44 percent.

Trump was watching TV as news networks projected Graham’s victory, and within minutes he called his friend.

“You got yours,” Trump told Graham. “I’ve got a fight on my hands.”

“Well, Mr. President, hang in there,” Graham said. “It’s looking pretty good for you.”

As the night wore on, some of Trump’s advisers began to worry. Public polls, as well as the Trump campaign’s internal surveys, had long projected that the race was Biden’s to lose, and that prediction was bearing out as more precincts reported votes from battleground states. Alyssa Farah, the White House communications director, stepped away from the party in the East Room and saw McDaniel pacing in the hallway.

“Ronna, good to see you!” Farah said to the Republican National Committee chairwoman.

“Hey, good to see you,” McDaniel said. Then, as she turned away, McDaniel said, “Things are not looking good.”

William P. Barr had the same feeling. The attorney general had shown up for Trump’s election night party, even though he had thought for months that Trump was destined to become a one-term president. Trump didn’t seem able to get out of his own way and deliver a disciplined message. Barr hung around the party for a bit, but a little after 10 p.m. decided to call it a night. He went home to get some sleep.

The Pentagon’s top two leaders stayed away from Trump’s party, still hypervigilant about avoiding any suggestion that they were politicizing the military. Esper and Milley had learned that lesson back on June 1 in Lafayette Square. Milley watched the returns on TV from his home at Fort Myer in Arlington. A history buff, Milley memorialized the night by keeping his own scorecard of states in his journal. Around 10:30 p.m., with results from most key states still far too close to call, Milley received an interesting call from a retired military buddy who reminded him of his apolitical role as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You are an island unto yourself right now,” the friend said, according to the account Milley shared with aides. “You are not tethered. Your loyalty is to the Constitution. You represent the stability of this republic.”

Milley’s friend added: “There’s fourth-rate people at the Pentagon. And you have fifth-rate people at the White House. You’re surrounded by total incompetence. Hang in there. Hang tough.”

Esper was at home in Northern Virginia feeling at peace that he had survived this long without getting fired and without having acquiesced to Trump’s wishes to order troops to break up domestic protests. The defense secretary had had a target on his back all fall, but Trump had not axed him.

Esper had a scare the night before, Nov. 2, when NBC’s Courtney Kube planned to report that he was preparing to be fired the day after the election, had updated his resignation letter and was quietly advising members of Congress about renaming Army bases named for Confederate generals as a sort of mic drop to fortify his legacy. Esper believed that if NBC published the story, it would signal that he was on the verge of resigning and prompt his premature firing — so he raced to stop it. He directed his aides to try to convince Kube that her information could be overhyped. It was true that Esper had been consulting with Congressional committees about renaming the bases. It also was true that he had prepared a resignation letter, as many Trump appointees had, but he had no imminent plans to submit it. In truth, Esper expected that Trump would fire him after the election, but was hoping to hold on if he could, at least for a few days after the election. He was worried about what Trump might try to do with the military if he were not at the helm. Esper warned Kube that publishing her story could result in a more compliant acting secretary of defense, which could have worrisome repercussions. The story was held as they tussled back and forth.

Esper was a lifelong Republican and had worked at the conservative Heritage Foundation as well as for Republican senators Bill Frist and Chuck Hagel. But he told his closest colleagues that as he watched TV news anchors cover the election results, he found himself rooting for the Democrat. Esper had worked with Biden and his secretary of state in waiting, Antony Blinken, when he was a senior staffer on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had confidence that they were serious, stable people who cared deeply about shoring up national security. Esper couldn’t say the same about Trump. In fact, Trump had privately indicated that he would seek to withdraw from NATO and to blow up the U.S. alliance with South Korea, should he win reelection. When those alliances had come up in meetings with Esper and other top aides, some advisers warned Trump that shredding them before the election would be politically dangerous.

“Yeah, the second term,” Trump had said. “We’ll do it in the second term.”

Esper had known that Trump had wanted to fire him ever since their June 3 argument over the Insurrection Act, but had heard that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, campaign officials and other advisers had talked the president out of doing so before the election. They had argued that he couldn’t afford to rupture his relationship with a second defense secretary, not after Jim Mattis’s rocky departure and the sharp public criticism he later leveled at Trump.

Esper had lived through the strain of the 2000 recounts and the Bush v. Gore case. He had repeatedly told his deputies that he wanted this election to be “clean and clear,” as in free of any suggestion of corruption and indisputably clear who had won. He had feared that anything less might give Trump some shred of a reason to call out troops. Later in the evening, as returns posted in Biden’s favor, Esper told a friend, “It looks good.” The defense secretary went to bed comforted by signs that the country would get a divided and stable government — a Democratic president and, he hoped, a Republican Senate.

t 11:20 p.m. on Fox News, Bill Hemmer was standing before his giant touch screen in the network’s Studio F in New York, guiding viewers through electoral college scenarios when Arizona turned blue on his map. The sudden change in color caught Hemmer off guard. “What is this happening here? Why is Arizona blue? Did we just call it? Did we just make a call in Arizona? Let’s see,” he said.

Co-anchor Martha MacCallum said that indeed Fox had called Arizona, a hotly contested battleground state with 11 electoral college votes.

Co-anchor Bret Baier chimed in. “Time out,” he said. “This is a big development. Fox News’s decision desk is calling Arizona for Joe Biden.” Baier added, “Biden picking up Arizona changes the math.”

Trump, who had been watching Fox, was livid. He could not fathom that the conservative news network he had long considered an extension of his campaign was the first news organization to call Arizona for Biden. This was a betrayal. His top advisers, who had been in the Map Room at the time, rushed upstairs to see the president. Giuliani followed them.

“They’re calling it way too early,” Oczkowski told Trump. “This thing is close. We still think we’ll win narrowly — and not just us. Doug Ducey’s modeling people show us winning.” Ducey, Arizona’s Republican governor, and his political team had kept in close contact with Trump’s aides.

That hardly reassured the president. “What the f--- is Fox doing?” Trump screamed. Then he barked orders to Kushner: “Call Rupert! Call James and Lachlan!” And to Jason Miller: “Get Sammon. Get Hemmer. They’ve got to reverse this.” The president was referring to Fox owner Rupert Murdoch and his sons, James and Lachlan, as well as Bill Sammon, a top news executive at Fox.

Trump’s tirade continued. “What the f---?” he bellowed. “What the f--- are these guys doing? How could they call this this early?”

Oczkowski again tried to soothe the president. “They’re calling this way too early,” he said. “This is unbelievable.”

Giuliani pushed the president to forget about the Arizona call and just say he won — to step into the East Room and deliver a victory speech. Never mind that Meadows had earlier snapped at Giuliani and said the president couldn’t just declare himself the winner.

“Just go declare victory right now,” Giuliani told Trump. “You’ve got to go declare victory now.”

Giuliani’s interjection of his “just-say-you-won” strategy infuriated Trump’s campaign advisers.

“It’s hard to be the responsible parent when there’s a cool uncle around taking the kid to the movies and driving him around in a Corvette,” one of these advisers recalled. “When we say the president can’t say that, being responsible is not the easiest place to be when you’ve got people telling the president what he wants to hear. It’s hard to tell the president no. It’s not an enviable place to be.”

Once they got away from the president, Kushner called Rupert Murdoch. Jason Miller tried Sammon but couldn’t reach him. Other Trump aides pitched in, too. Counselor Kellyanne Conway reached out to Baier and MacCallum, who were on the air. Hicks, who had worked under Lachlan Murdoch at the Fox Corp. between her White House stints, reached out to Fox Corp. Senior Vice President Raj Shah, a former Trump spokesman, to track down a number for Jay Wallace, the president of Fox News.

Conway talked to Brian Seitchik, a longtime Trump adviser based in Arizona, who assured her: “This is irresponsible. Here in Arizona, we just have way too many votes left to count.”

Ducey called the Trump team and was put on speakerphone. The governor told them that the Fox call was premature and that, according to his analysis, Trump still had a chance to win because so many votes remained to be counted.

Typically, most news organizations call states around the same time because they tend to have similar standards for when it is safe to project winners and losers. But with Arizona, other major news organizations held back on joining Fox’s call. In fact, Jason Miller received text messages from contacts at other networks. “I can’t believe Fox is doing you guys dirty,” one of them wrote.

Trump and his family became apoplectic as the night ticked on and his early leads over Biden in Pennsylvania and other states kept shrinking. As additional votes were being counted, Biden inched closer to Trump. Pennsylvania was too close to call, as was Georgia. Trump decided to deliver remarks to his viewing party and came down into the Map Room, where he yelled at Justin Clark, the deputy campaign manager.

“Why are they still counting votes?” Trump asked. “The election’s closed. Are they counting ballots that came in afterward? What the hell is going on?” Trump, through a spokesman, denied saying this.

The president told Conway that he thought something nefarious was at play.

“They’re stealing this from us,” Trump said. “We have this thing won. I won in a landslide and they’re taking it back.”

Of course, nobody was taking anything. Election officials were simply doing their duty, counting ballots. But Trump didn’t see it that way. He seemed to truly believe he had been winning. As one Trump adviser later explained, “The psychological impact of, he’s going to win, people were calling him saying he’s going to win, and then somehow these votes just keep showing up.”

Eric Trump, who the night before had predicted to friends that his father would win with 322 electoral college votes, flipped out in the Map Room.

“The election is being stolen,” the president’s 36-year-old son said. “Where are these votes coming from? How is this legit?”

He yelled at the campaign’s data analysts, as if it were their fault that his father’s early leads over Biden were shrinking. ”We pay you to do this,” he said. “How can this be happening?"

Eric Trump, through a spokesperson, insisted that he did not berate campaign staff, as described by witnesses.

Donald Trump Jr. said, “There’s no way we lose to this guy,” referring to Biden.

Shortly after 2 a.m. on Nov. 4, “Hail to the Chief” played at the East Room party. Out walked Trump, followed by Melania Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Karen Pence. Stephen Miller and the speechwriting team had prepared remarks for Trump to deliver, but the president veered from his teleprompter script to instead deliver stream-of-consciousness thoughts.

“We were winning everything and all of a sudden it was just called off,” Trump said. He added, “Literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good.”

Trump rattled off states he had won — Florida! Ohio! Texas! — and then claimed that he had already won states that were too close to call, including Georgia and North Carolina. He bragged about his leads in some states — “Think of this: We’re up 690,000 votes in Pennsylvania. Six hundred ninety thousand!” — and falsely claimed to be winning Michigan and Wisconsin.

Neither Trump nor Biden was declared the overall winner because Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania remained too close to call. Yet Trump insisted that he was the actual winner, and that his sweet victory had been somehow snatched from him.

“This is a fraud on the American public,” the president said. “This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election. We did win this election. So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation. This is a very big moment. This is a major fraud in our nation. We want the law to be used in a proper manner. So we’ll be going to the U.S. Supreme Court. We want all voting to stop. We don’t want them to find any ballots at four o’clock in the morning and add them to the list, okay? It’s a very sad moment. To me, this is a very sad moment, and we will win this. And as far as I’m concerned, we already have won it.”

This was an extraordinary accusation for any political candidate to make about any election, much less for a sitting president to make about the country’s most consequential election. Trump was telling the 74 million people who voted for him not to trust the results.

Watching from California, Romney was heartsick. “We’re in a global battle for the survival of liberal democracy in the face of autocracy and autocratic regimes attempting to dominate the world,” he recalled in the interview. “So saying something and doing things that would suggest that in the free nation of the United States of America and the model of democracy for the world, that we can’t have a free and fair election would have a destructive effect on democracy around the world, not just to mention here.”

Pelosi watched Trump’s speech in horror. “It was just a complete, total manifestation [of] insanity,” she recalled in the interview.

“It was clear over that four-year period that this was not a person who was on the level — on the level intellectually, on the level mentally, on the level emotionally and certainly not on the level patriotically,” she said. “So for him to say what he said, I wouldn’t say was [as] surprising as it might have been if we hadn’t seen the instability all along.”

Following his speech, Trump hung around the Green Room next door to the East Room talking to some advisers and VIP guests, asking them what they thought. Ingraham, whose prime-time show was off the air that night because of Fox’s election coverage, was overheard giving the president some advice. She expressed general doubt that the outcome would change in the days ahead, given the historical reluctance of federal courts to intervene in elections, a contrast to what she considered unrealistic scenarios being painted by some others around the president.

“Give up on Arizona,” Ingraham told him, apparently confident in her network’s decision to project Biden the winner there.

Giving up wasn’t in Trump’s repertoire. “Fox shouldn’t have called it,” he told her.

Karl Rove, the former George W. Bush strategist and Fox commentator, had just come off the air when he got a call from a Trump adviser. “He’s in a meltdown,” the adviser told Rove. “Can you call him and tell him that all is not lost?”

Rove phoned the president and tried to give him a pep talk.

“Hang in there,” he told Trump. “There’s a lot of ballots to be counted and it’s not going to be done for some time. You fought a good fight … You’re not out yet.”

Rove and Trump briefly discussed the state of the race in Arizona. “I know premature calls,” he said, reminding the president of the fiasco on election night in 2000, when some networks projected Al Gore would win Florida only to have to retract their call a couple of hours later. “Hang in there. You gave it your all. You came down to the end. You upset them in 2016. You can do it again. Just hold on.”

Trump then retreated to the Map Room to talk to his campaign team. He stayed up until 4 a.m. chewing over the incoming results. The president was fixated on Pennsylvania, where Biden kept cutting into his lead. There were enough votes still to be counted in Philadelphia, which were sure to favor the Democrat, for Biden to overtake Trump. And indeed, Democrats were optimistic that once all the votes were in, Biden would win the state.

Conway and Meadows both preached patience.

“Mr. President, you’re ahead in Pennsylvania by 700,000 votes,” Conway told him. “We won Pennsylvania by 44,000 votes last time. Just let them count the votes. Let them get through the votes.”

Meadows said: “Just count the votes, Mr. President. You probably have enough to keep those leads.”

Trump wasn’t having any of it. He thought Democrats were rigging the vote totals.

“If I wake up in the morning and they say Trump is ahead by 100,000, they’ll find 100,001 votes in the backyard,” the president said.

“Mr. President, it stings,” Conway said. “It just hurts to have lost Pennsylvania.”

“Honey, we didn’t lose Pennsylvania,” Trump replied. “We won Pennsylvania.”

Conway, who often was quick with a rejoinder to lighten the mood at tense moments, invoked the security cameras that some homeowners install at their front doors to monitor for stolen packages or unwanted visitors. “Then your campaign should’ve invested in Ring and Nest cameras,” she quipped.

"and no one is going to buy this book."

It's number one on Amazon, R12, and it hasn't even been released yet.

I'm struck by the fact that pirro and ingraham were in the white house on this election night? WTF!...

was anderson cooper, lawrence o'donnell or rachel maddow hanging out with biden on election night? Or with Obama on his 2 election nights!

JUST FOR THIS, fox news should be off the airwaves for this unbelievable immoral and unethical behavior by it's hosts and their spreading propaganda and lies to the nation!

then again, hannity hangs/hung out with trump and shares a lawyer with him!....

I was working overnight in November, which meant I got to experience the whole thing in reverse. I spent most of the first part of actual election night wanting to throw up, with my husband telling me over text "Biden's number with the working class men are much better than Hillary's, it's going to be okay" and so it was calming when things did start to turn around later on.

Being awake to see Georgia flip in real time (it happened around 5:30, IIRC), almost made the rest of the stress worth it. I think I cried from relief.

I was off that day (Friday) and too amped to sleep, so I went into Manhattan to flip off Trump Tower. That felt good. DecisionDeskHQ had already called the election even though the networks hadn't. Even before the call Saturday when people were dancing in the street, the relief that was felt was palpable.

R282 I said the same thing about Fox. I don't think any legitimate Democrat should ever give an interview to Fox ever again. They're not a serious source of news anyway.

I hope Biden and all Democrats stay the hell away from Fox. That is not a legitimate news organization. They're all a bunch of grifters.

I'm so glad Biden won and Trump loss. Hopefully, in 2024 we can re elect another Democrat. Rather its Biden or whoever, I just want a democrat in the white house period.

I also hope with every breathe I take, that McConnell dies now and in the most agonizing pain and fear imaginable. Alone and with no mercy. Then is fated to experience the same in eternity.

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

07/15/21

Nobody had ever heard of some of these people that worked for me in D.C. All of a sudden, the Fake News starts calling them. Some of them—by no means all—feel emboldened, brave, and for the first time in their lives, they feel like "something special," not the losers that they are—and they talk, talk, talk!

Many say I am the greatest star-maker of all time. But some of the stars I produced are actually made of garbage.

Nancy Pelosi is a known nut job. Her enraged quotes that she was afraid that I would use nuclear weapons is just more of the same. In fact, I was the one that got us out of wars, not into wars. And I was the one who got respect for our Country again, not like now when the leaders of the entire World are laughing at us. They didn’t laugh when I was there!

I love how this massive cunt keeps braying about how he only hires the best people who are also somehow magically all huge losers.

[quote]Nobody had ever heard of some of these people that worked for me in D.C.

I can't with this asshole. 😂

Trump says Gen. Mark Milley should be 'court-martialed' if he thought the former president potentially sought a coup

John L. Dorman 2 hours ago

Trump has pushed back against the excerpt from "I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump's Catastrophic Final Year," which said that Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, discussed the possibility of a coup with friends, legislators, and colleagues.

"The writings within these third-rate books are Fake News, and 'General' Milley (who [former Defense Secretary James] Mattis wanted to send to Europe in order to get rid of him), if he said what was reported, perhaps should be impeached, or court-martialed and tried," the former president said in a statement. "He tries to be a tough guy, which he is not, but he choked beyond belief as soon as a microphone was stuffed in front of his face or, at the mere sight of the Fake News Media."

He added: "There was no talk of a coup, there was no coup, it all never happened, and it's just a waste of words by fake writers and a General who didn't have a clue."

After the 2020 election, Trump refused to meet with his successor, now-President Joe Biden, and spent weeks seeking to overturn the results through litigation and strong-arm tactics.

The excerpts from the book reveal that Milley felt as though he needed to be "on guard" in the remaining days of the administration after the election.

"They may try, but they're not going to f---ing succeed," Milley reportedly told his deputies. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns."

CNN reported on the bombshell detail from the book on Wednesday.

That day same, Trump also fired back at the comments reportedly made by Milley.

"I never threatened, or spoke to, anyone about a coup of our government. So ridiculous! Sorry to inform you, but the Election is my form of 'coup', and if I was going to do a coup, one of the last people I would want to do it with is Mark General Milley," Trump said in a statement.

On Friday, Trump went after Milley once again, expressing that he had "lost total confidence" in the general while in office while also bringing up the now-infamous photo op held at St. John's Church in Washington, DC, last year.

"Never once did I have a discussion with him about bringing in the Military, or a 'coup,' which makes sense, because I lost total confidence in him and the way he handled himself on our little walk to the church," Trump said.

The photo op occured after protestors were violently cleared from Lafayette Park, which immediately attracted criticism. However, the inspector general for the Interior Department determined in June 2021 that the US Park Police and Secret Service did not clear the park for Trump's photoshoot, but to install anti-scale fencing.

Milley apologized for taking part in the walk alongside Trump last year.

[quote] 'court-martialed'

Who taught him the word?

[quote] Eric is much like his dad. Broad shoulders, big muscles, strong chest.

You need an eye exam and psychiatric meds. Trump is a giant lump of lard whose stomach sticks out two or three feet before that ‘strong chest,’ and he’s never seen the inside of a gym or any other vigorous activity.

[quote] Nobody had ever heard of some of these people that worked for me in D.C. All of a sudden, the Fake News starts calling them. Some of them—by no means all—feel emboldened, brave, and for the first time in their lives, they feel like "something special," not the losers that they are—and they talk, talk, talk!

He basically just said they were telling the truth. You'd think a guy who lies as much as he does would project and say they're were making it all up.

* THEY were making it all up.

R242 Booker

Why does he even bother releasing a statement when we all know what this limited imbecile is going to say? He only has two reactions to everything: One if you kiss his ass and one if you even mildly criticize him. And both reactions are hyperbolic gibberish.

You're either the greatest or the worst in history - and most who worked for him or knew that fool, will end up being both at some point.

It is the ones who had the power and duty to protect this country from the Trumps and the Russians that I want to hear from. Why they allowed this to happen when they alone had the power and duty to stop this. We aren't safe until we are know why all systems and people charged with protecting this country failed on such a massive level.

Agreed, R296. I mean we know why people like McConnell and McCarthy did it: Power hungry assholes. McConnell got his judges and tax cuts for the wealthy. McCarthy being a cunt who just wants to be SotH. I want to why people like John Kelly went along with it. Why people at the DOJ/US Attorneys with long careers went along with it. Went along with things like spying on journalists or signing off on that Lafayette bullshit. Using law enforcement for the sole purpose of satisfying Trump's pathetic ego.

know* why

R297 Because deep down, they're all a bunch of white supremacists too. Come on, we all know this.

It seems it doesn't take much to persuade white men to do the wrong thing. This is why diversity is an important issue. Having mostly white men running the show is very dangerous. Deep down inside, a lot if these assholes agree with Trump.

I really believe That and it's frightening to think about.

But not surprising at all!

R299, I won't argue with you there. I've been pissed off at the enablers on here and the media for years who made excuses for why all of these people gravitated to someone who embodies everything wrong a person could be and unqualified beyond belief to be dogcatcher, let alone President of the United States. The only thing he offered was his racism and bigotry. That was the moment they all swooned over him and they haven't stopped since. Those who *suddenly* had an issue with Trump and became Never Trumpers, had to be in some way personally offended by what he said or did after he'd already given them so much reason not to support him by simply be a repugnant pile of shit - and yet that wasn't enough.

[quote] Weren't they all liberal and Democrats before Trump blew everything up and ran for president?

I don’t think any of them have any real convictions, it’s just the Democrats weren’t going to buy what they were selling. They’ve also managed to tap into the strain of authoritarianism that’s always been there in the GOP. They’re forever looking for a ‘dear leader’ to worship.

I actually worked the polls in 2020 so I would be too busy to see the frantic text messages from friends who would be flipping out.

I knew Biden would win and I told anyone who would listen but, of course, I was ignored. So I worked the polls and we were slammed for hours. Our tiny precinct had a 30 minute wait when usually you can walk right in.

Things slowed down enough around 2pm that we could start rotating for a lunch break. We'd been going balls out since 6am with NO break.

We had people voting right up until the polls closed. Then we had to break down all of the equipment, secure the paper ballots and reconcile the numbers of paper ballots vs the number of people we checked in.

I didn't get home until after midnight and I was fucking exhausted. I checked DL and passed out, content.

[quote]The only thing he offered was his racism and bigotry.

That's all that was needed. This should tell you about all that you need to know about this country...

R302, how disgusted are you by the fact poll workers in some states are getting death threats from Trump's flying monkeys and have actually quit? People who've done it for years don't even feel safe.

So, clearly these latest books and revelations hold no value whatsoever to Republicans...

Eric looks sickly in op pic

^he's not sick. It's just vileness.

Imagine liking this guy. Imagine looking in the mirror and thinking, yup, I'm the kind of cunt that loves Donald J. Trump.

[quote]Lindsey Graham: I will be 'shocked' if Trump does not run for President

Lindsey Graham opening his pie hole on Fox News. Can't find a more reliable source than that!

I'm fucking furious, r304. Poll worker intimidation IS illegal, period. It's interfering in federal elections which is a FELONY and should be prosecuted.

Most of the poll workers are old retired folk. Some in my area appear quite frail.

Why these butt hurt pussies want to harass and intimidate 70 year old women is beyond me. I guess it makes them feel "tough".

I'd never worked the polls before but I did it so we had enough workers to keep the polls open in my area. Too many of the older ones were afraid of catching the plague and wouldn't work. So I volunteered. I steeled myself for massive trumptard attacks but the polling location I was working was next to the police station in a white suburb so I guess they figured it wasn't worth their time. Not one red hat prick showed up to run his flap.

Anybody - ANYBODY - Who threatens, harasses or tries to intimidate a poll worker should be gutted like a fish and left in a bloody heap as a warning to other pricks who think that shit is acceptable.

All it's going to take is for one of these shitbags to get prosecuted/sued and suddenly they will all claim "I didn't know it was illegal/harassment/intimidation" or "but so and so said we could".

Same excuse these pathetic losers who attacked the capitol on Jan 6th are pleading in court now.

These dumb terrorists think the GQP is going to bail them out or pay their fines or do their time or whatever. Or that they'll get a pass because they're white males. Hopefully, the sentencing of these domestic terrorists from Jan 6th will wake some of them the fuck up.

How many of the 350+ million people in the US were involved in these attacks and will any charged with murder?

^ be charged

Preach, R310.

I'm so tired of the deplorable cockroaches feeling emboldened. They're terrorists. They should be treated as such. Muslims who simply say something even remotely anti-American online get prosecuted or at least a visit from the FBI. I don't understand why any known deplorable terrorist isn't treated the same?

I don't believe for one minute that Trump thinks he won the election. He knows he lost. Trump is just continuing the Big Lie so that he stays relevant with his deplorable base and cowardly Repig members of Congress...and so that he can continue to fundraise from the gullible and dumbest in this country.

Granted, any candidate can be anxious, nervous and apprehensive as the votes are coming in and being counted on election night and even the day after or in the coming days if it's a very close race. However, once Trump lost swing state after swing state and by more than a total of seven million votes, even Trump knows he lost. The reason Trump was ahead in some places in the early hours of the evening on election night is that the in-person votes are counted first, and most Repigs vote in person. Then, the mail-in votes are counted, and mail-in ballots had a significant increase among Democrats. So big deal, Trump was leading in certain places at 9pm, 10pm or even 11pm. Biden was also leading in many other places during those hours as well. But once the mail-in ballots were counted. Biden clearly pulled ahead almost everywhere where the race might have been contested. Trump lost and he knows it.

Trump is perpetuating the Big Lie for his one personal gain. He lost and he knows it.

Apparently Eric Trump has lost his lawyer in the civil suit against him and the Trump. Org.

Fingers crossed that this is because the civil suit is about to turn into a criminal suit.

[quote]I don't believe for one minute that Trump thinks he won the election. He knows he lost. Trump is just continuing the Big Lie so that he stays relevant with his deplorable base and cowardly Repig members of Congress...and so that he can continue to fundraise from the gullible and dumbest in this country.

I think he knows it on a rational level. But this level in his brain has been eroding so fast over the last decade that he also started believing his own lies. It's a strange phenomenon, not sure of the clinical term - when you both know you're full of shit and also believe your own shit to be the pinnacle of truth.