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“Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency” on Oxygen

I used to love this fucking show. I made sure to watch it every week. Janice was a fucking loon and psychotic but boy is she entertaining.

There were so many gorgeous men in her agency, I always wonder what happened to them. Brian and JP were her two most popular guys, JP mostly for coming out on the show.

I remember this one photo shoot a few of her guys were picked for where they had to have their asses out. It was a gay shoot. Back when that network showed bare ass.

I wish Janice didn’t fuck it up and it got canceled. A fun show.

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by Anonymousreply 246January 18, 2022 3:12 AM

He's starting to look mighty waxy...

He needs to stop taking Janice's advice on certain matters.

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by Anonymousreply 1July 4, 2021 12:01 AM

JP looks weird now.

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by Anonymousreply 2July 4, 2021 12:01 AM

Brian Kehoe was her golden boy until she had to fire him, or he left. Can’t remember which. And then he came back begging her to take him back and she did and I believe he got fired again lol

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by Anonymousreply 3July 4, 2021 12:12 AM

The deaf model she hired Martin did gay porn prior to the agency. An Austin born and raised cutie who moved to LA at 16 to pursue his career.

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by Anonymousreply 4July 4, 2021 12:16 AM

R1 sad. He very clearly was mentored by Miss Dickinson lol.

He was so beautiful when younger.

by Anonymousreply 5July 4, 2021 12:20 AM

R5 indeed. And he did the Instinct cover he was offered and everyone was so proud of how good his cover (and photo shoot) was.

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by Anonymousreply 6July 4, 2021 12:24 AM

R2 overfilled!

by Anonymousreply 7July 4, 2021 12:30 AM

Phew HOT

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by Anonymousreply 8July 4, 2021 12:36 AM

R7 he looks scary! Wow. Why would he do this?

by Anonymousreply 9July 4, 2021 12:37 AM

I remember what a cunt Janice was to Fargo. At the beginning of the show Janice had a partner and they could never get along and disagreed with everything. He wanted Fargo signed, she didn’t because her look is too commercial and she only wants high end runway types, no commercial or lingerie/nude models. He kept telling her we need commercial models too to pay the bills and keep the agency afloat.

He was right.

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by Anonymousreply 10July 4, 2021 12:40 AM

Janice made sure none of the female models were too pretty or beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 11July 4, 2021 12:42 AM

Love Janice. Much more than Tyra.

by Anonymousreply 12July 4, 2021 12:43 AM

R11 because she is a psycho. She needed to be the most beautiful always. You can’t be when you’re like 60 and wanting to start your own Modeling Agency. The females are the ones that will bring you the big bucks, not the males. Female models dominate that industry.

by Anonymousreply 13July 4, 2021 12:44 AM

Janice is a DLer. I’m certain of it.

Or DLers aspire to be like her because you all would be nasty just like her here lol.

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by Anonymousreply 14July 4, 2021 12:52 AM

Martin Ritchie, her deaf model, did a gay porn scene

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by Anonymousreply 15July 4, 2021 1:16 AM

Martin lands his first job as a model

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by Anonymousreply 16July 4, 2021 1:18 AM

LOVE MY BEAUTIES 🤡

by Anonymousreply 17July 4, 2021 1:24 AM

Janice was still beautiful then, herself. I love Janice Dickinson for giving us all that sexy male eye candy and truth. She was sensational on Top Model too. Nigel tells some funny stories about her.

Janice is the definition of SuperMODEL of the world.❤️

by Anonymousreply 18July 4, 2021 1:24 AM

I love Janice. I can’t imagine how she felt seeing her rapist walk out of prison this week.

by Anonymousreply 19July 4, 2021 1:25 AM

Can we keep Bill Cosby talk off of here? 🙄

by Anonymousreply 20July 4, 2021 1:27 AM

That time she was having some of the guys do ballerina moves etc. to teach them how to move etc.

They look hot. But lol

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by Anonymousreply 21July 4, 2021 1:33 AM

Janice really sparked the Bill Cosby charges.

by Anonymousreply 22July 4, 2021 1:43 AM

R21 omg I remember Payton. I had such a crush on him when I watched this originally. And I hated how that queen got all upset when Janice found out he started it with Peyton. Did he want her to ignore he started it?

Payton was dreamy. Sexy southern boy from NC.

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by Anonymousreply 23July 4, 2021 1:48 AM

R22 shes one of the only ones most people didn’t believe. Her story had nothing but holes.

by Anonymousreply 24July 4, 2021 1:48 AM

Anyone who finds it hard to believe that young Janice Dickinson was drugged and raped by some famous men is the one with holes in their story.

by Anonymousreply 25July 4, 2021 1:52 AM

She had people with her. And she isn’t someone who would have ever kept it a secret. She jumped on the bandwagon. With that big mouth of hers. Please.

by Anonymousreply 26July 4, 2021 1:55 AM

OP is my QUEEN.

Loved this fucking show~

When was this 2008 or so??

My prime. 31!

Good times-

by Anonymousreply 27July 4, 2021 1:57 AM

JP Looks a lot like Broadway star Max von Essen.

by Anonymousreply 28July 4, 2021 1:59 AM

R27 it started in 2006 :)

I was 19 at the time. I remember. I crushed on so many of the boys. By season 4 there were nothing but gorgeous boys all over, and then it got canceled.

Janice started her agency in 2005.

by Anonymousreply 29July 4, 2021 2:00 AM

She did come forward later that she made up the Cosby allegations. But I assumed that she was bribed to do that. She was part of that famous New York Times' cover and the feature.

The show was so wonderfully trashy. Like when that Aussibum owner set Janice up on her own show (showing some clip where Janice badmouthed him) and then making a big drama exit taking his ad business elsewhere and Kehoe seizes to moment hogging the camera to uplift Janice by giving some big speech (we don't need him!) and then sitting down on a cake for the PR event.

The ending was so sad and depressing. Janice having this big temper tantrum refusing to hire big sized models and her getting a lawyer involved to push out her business partner (who was clearly bankrolling the whole thing).

by Anonymousreply 30July 4, 2021 2:06 AM

Where is that red headed girl model who’s stage mom insisted she was going to Paris at the convention, and Janice became furious and exclaimed “You DON’T go to Paris for MONEY, you go there to build your BOOK!

And then she wanted another model to get a nose job, which I found ironic considering how Eileen Ford did the same type of thing and criticized Janice’s looks. The model to be whined she was homeless, and Janice said she had been.

Then she screamed at the models for not using Dermablend on pimples, and boasted about how she was always ready.

The gay mafia.

That’s about all I can remember.

And the billboard sign she showed the models after they trudged around in the cold in their skivvies.

by Anonymousreply 31July 4, 2021 2:11 AM

The partner sued her for pushing him out I believe. They were in a lawsuit war.

Kehoe always knew how to make sure the cameras were on him. Remember them joining the PETA protest in only underwear? He took his underwear off out of nowhere. Some other guys followed.

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by Anonymousreply 32July 4, 2021 2:12 AM

Janice Dickinson is a divine wreck. I adore her. She is walking PTSD and trauma. And no, she did not admit that she made up the rape R30. Your seething hatred of her is palpable. What she admitted to in court is that she told a different story about her Cosby in her memoir, for the cash.

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by Anonymousreply 33July 4, 2021 2:15 AM

I smell facelift.

by Anonymousreply 34July 4, 2021 2:21 AM

Earlier, during direct questioning, Dickinson testified that she decided to cut from her book the story of being sexually assaulted by Cosby after her publisher, Judith Regan, warned her it could ruin her career.

by Anonymousreply 35July 4, 2021 2:21 AM

Isn’t Janice broke now?

by Anonymousreply 36July 4, 2021 2:21 AM

Janice is always broke. She's never had a big payday. She's not an actress. She's a 66 year old reality star and once famous model who destroyed her face. A famous mess. I'd send her some money if she needs it. I love her and I understand her too. Tyra is the fake ass mean girl backstabbing cold hearted billionaire in the making. Janice is (mostly) good people.❤️

Janice won her defamation suit against Cosby, for a pretty large settlement. She's okay. Why would she lie about being raped by Bill Cosby? She's fucked plenty of more famous men.

by Anonymousreply 37July 4, 2021 2:30 AM

Janice jumped on the bandwagon for cash. Her lies and craziness hurt more than helped the credibility of the case against Cosby. Cosby’s attorney called her a liar. She sued for defamation and Cosby’s insurance company had to pay.

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by Anonymousreply 38July 4, 2021 2:34 AM

Was she ever rich? Like, Hollywood rich?

by Anonymousreply 39July 4, 2021 2:35 AM

Janice told Howard Stern. In 2005 that Cosby “took advantage” of her and her publisher didn’t allow it in the book out of fear of being sued.

by Anonymousreply 40July 4, 2021 2:39 AM

R39 no. She should have been smarter and maybe she would have.

Interesting she’s broke while Tyra is worth hundreds of millions.

See what happens when you play your cards right.

by Anonymousreply 41July 4, 2021 2:42 AM

[quote] [R39] no. She should have been smarter and maybe she would have. Interesting she’s broke while Tyra is worth hundreds of millions. See what happens when you play your cards right.

Why is that interesting. Tyra’s career peaked in the 1990s, the height of the super model big money golden age. Janice’s career was over well before the 90s. Janice is a self proclaimed “super model.” I believe she even claims to have coined the phrase “super model.” She however was never rich and successful like those 90s girls. She’s full of shit and batshit crazy. Which is why she made good tv.

by Anonymousreply 42July 4, 2021 2:57 AM

There were models from the 60s-80s who became rich.

Also all her years on reality TV etc. she should have not let her ego get in the way and stayed on ANTM. If she put her ego aside she may have had a top agency for models, but her ego let it all fall apart.

She’s a mess.

by Anonymousreply 43July 4, 2021 3:02 AM

Remember Paul? Woof

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by Anonymousreply 44July 4, 2021 3:11 AM

Janice is a mess but she was at least once a very beautiful and successful model. Not like that Dog_Faced bullfrog Gia Garageme. Gia is only known for the way she died. Janice is living her truth and making her way in life. She has grown kids who love her. Ex husband who doesn't bad mouth her. And unlike Tyra, Janice is remembered fondly by the top model contestants and other judges. She's not a total failure. And she was GORGEOUS. Disciplined and beautiful. There's a lot of trauma there, but she's not a toxic narcissist like Tyra or a heroine addicted thug like that ugly Gia chick.

by Anonymousreply 45July 4, 2021 3:12 AM

Gia was gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous. And if she could clean up her act she would have been even bigger, and Cindy Crawford would have never been.

by Anonymousreply 46July 4, 2021 3:14 AM

She’ a work in progress.

by Anonymousreply 47July 4, 2021 3:21 AM

^ You took the bait bitch.^ Now get off this thread you crazy ass muthafukka. Everyone knows your supermodel of the eighties obsessions. GTFOH. You're a hundred years old. Take your AIDS stories and go cry in the corner. Gia was not very attractive or a great model. She's famous for being a junkie who got AIDS.

I wasn't born until 1983, but everyone knows that Janice Dickinson was exotically, hypnotically and all naturally b e a u t i f u l.

Beauty fades, but that sick old bitch at R46 is a troll forever.

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by Anonymousreply 48July 4, 2021 3:23 AM

Janice D

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by Anonymousreply 49July 4, 2021 3:27 AM

Poor Janice looks like Caitlyn Jenner now. She was a real beauty in the 70's. Getting old sucks sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 50July 4, 2021 3:43 AM

In Vogue. Remember on Top Model when Janice would argue: I'm sorry Tyra but a model has to be in shape!

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by Anonymousreply 51July 4, 2021 3:46 AM

Was it even a real agency or just for the show? I’m guessing it closed right after the show ended?

by Anonymousreply 52July 4, 2021 3:49 AM

Dickinson's Agency was far more real than ANTM was real. The girls who did make it in modelling from that show have all spoken out against Tyra's exploitation of them and how the show was a hindrance to their actual career. Tyra was brought down during the pandemic. Almost 100 past contestants have been interviewed by this guy on YouTube. Some of them spoke for hours at a time. Winners and wannabes. Nigel too. Tyra is NOT popular.

Janice Dickinson was a MODEL. She was a real model. And her models were real for the times, aka, commercial.

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by Anonymousreply 53July 4, 2021 3:59 AM

THEN AND NOW: 13 iconic supermodels from the '80s and '90s and what they look like today

For the last two decades of the 20th century, a group of women (none of whom is named Janice Dickinson) essentially controlled the fashion industry. Their presence could make or break a runway show, and their exploits were plastered across tabloids.

From Cindy Crawford to Tyra Banks, these 13 women were inescapable for the better part of the '80s and '90s — and we loved them for it.

Here is a look back at the 13 biggest supermodels of the '80s and '90s at the height of their fame, and what they're up to today.

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by Anonymousreply 54July 4, 2021 4:12 AM

Truth is that Janice was not the first and not famous in the way that later "super" models were. But she is always listed in the top ten of actual supermodels. Because she was unique and exotic and an excellent and intriguing model. She excelled at everything. That's print work, PRESTIGE covers, the world's most important runway shows of the biggest designers, she was photographed by Avedon and Penn and Mike Reinhart and all the others and she scored some beauty campaigns. She ain't lying.

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by Anonymousreply 55July 4, 2021 4:13 AM

Janice Dickinson was not some Fashion Cafe or Victoria Secret Ho. She is with Evangelista, Kate Moss, Iman, Dovima, Lauren Hutton and a few others - one of the great fashion models and muses of all time.

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by Anonymousreply 56July 4, 2021 4:21 AM

^ I forgot Naomi Campbell. She's also in that rare company.

Janice started out so smart and sweet and self aware. She was considered too sporty and her eyes were too small and they made fun of her full lips.....

Times change. Janice is one of the greats. Yes, a supermodel.

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by Anonymousreply 57July 4, 2021 4:29 AM

Janice was the BEST judge on ANTM!

Seriously, her delivery fucking sucked but her critiques were always the best and on point and she had the best eye for talent. She and Tyra had a harsh disagreement on things like short women, plus sized models, etc but Janice was just being realistic. She said herself she didn’t think it was fair for some of these girls to be strung along being told they had potential to be high fashion models...and she was RIGHT!

by Anonymousreply 58July 4, 2021 4:34 AM

Not everyone can do it, can they Janice? Janice had done IT all.

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by Anonymousreply 59July 4, 2021 4:40 AM

Near the end of her career and natural beauty, but what a beauty. Janice was THAT bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 60July 4, 2021 4:49 AM

Can't believe no one's mentioned Sorin! He had the hottest body on the show.

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by Anonymousreply 61July 4, 2021 4:53 AM

Brian Kehoe and his mischief made the show, along with Janice herself. I remember watching this show just waiting for Kehoe to have his big gay reveal, but that shit never happened!

by Anonymousreply 62July 4, 2021 4:58 AM

Sell it, Janice.

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by Anonymousreply 63July 4, 2021 5:19 AM

Richard Avedon, photographer. Vogue.

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by Anonymousreply 64July 4, 2021 6:24 AM

I watched it just for the guys. She surely knew how to hire hot ones.

by Anonymousreply 65July 4, 2021 6:49 AM

Kehoe isn’t gay. He’s a model. They’re beauty is their life and money maker. They aren’t like regular men.

by Anonymousreply 66July 4, 2021 9:22 AM

Her agency was real and started a year before the show. Her lawsuits etc. were all very real.

The agency ended so the show did. Not the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 67July 4, 2021 9:23 AM

No r62. The gorgeous men made the show.

by Anonymousreply 68July 4, 2021 9:23 AM

Tyra was right. Tyra knew the future would have a lot of shorter and plus size models. She was right. Janice wasn’t.

Her son also knew this and added a plus size department to her agency. She wanted nothing to do with it but he knew there was a market for it and they would be in high demand one day.

She never wanted to listen.

by Anonymousreply 69July 4, 2021 9:26 AM

Janice was "old school" holding on to old - and very soon - outdated values in the modelling industry. There are plenty of people who are left behind when they can't adjust to progress being made by younger generations.

by Anonymousreply 70July 4, 2021 9:29 AM

Younger generations? You're over 80, R70.

by Anonymousreply 71July 4, 2021 9:33 AM

[quote] Janice told Howard Stern. In 2005 that Cosby “took advantage” of her and he

Just going by her history she has no credibility in her accusations. She tried to shake down Stallone and came close to marrying him, claiming she gave birth to his daughter. And well before the Cosby story there were a number of gossip items relating how promiscuous she was when she was still a hot model.

by Anonymousreply 72July 4, 2021 9:51 AM

I felt bad for Janice having to deal with models who put on pounds.

by Anonymousreply 73July 4, 2021 9:53 AM

R72 exactly. She’s a pathological liar

by Anonymousreply 74July 4, 2021 11:15 AM

JP on a "date."

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by Anonymousreply 75July 4, 2021 11:48 AM

I liked this show and had forgotten about it. I really only remember JP. I think I’d never heard of Janice before thus show. I somewhat follow fashion and models, but I guess she had never made an impression on me.

I liked Make Me a Supermodel more than this one. It was fun. Back when Bravo had a lot of great shows.

by Anonymousreply 76July 4, 2021 12:26 PM

R76 you’d never heard of ANTM? Impossible

by Anonymousreply 77July 4, 2021 12:35 PM

The best model show was America’s Most Smartest Model.

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by Anonymousreply 78July 4, 2021 1:47 PM

When did I say I’ve never heard of ANTM? I said I don’t remember JD before her show about her agency. I never watched ANTM because I can’t stand Tyra.

by Anonymousreply 79July 4, 2021 3:00 PM

R78 didn’t it last 1 season? I remember it being pretty funny but most of the models didn’t even look like real models.

by Anonymousreply 80July 4, 2021 3:08 PM

R73 do funny. I remember her firing one of the female models for eating a hotdog after Janice MADE HER go on a diet 😂

by Anonymousreply 81July 4, 2021 3:23 PM

Janice said Brian Kehoe's booty was flabby 😁

by Anonymousreply 82July 4, 2021 4:00 PM

[quote] Just going by her history she has no credibility in her accusations. She tried to shake down Stallone and came close to marrying him, claiming she gave birth to his daughter. And well before the Cosby story there were a number of gossip items relating how promiscuous she was when she was still a hot model.

Remember how she harassed Jose Canseco and then accused Bronson Pinchot of harassment. She’s a fucking nut.

by Anonymousreply 83July 4, 2021 4:18 PM

R69 In commercial modeling yes, but not high fashion, which ANTM was supposed to prepare the girls for. Janice wasn’t happy that Eva was the winner in season 3, when she was only 5’3 either

by Anonymousreply 84July 4, 2021 4:29 PM

Tyra picked TV spokesmodels and future soap actresses to win Top Model. None of the winners went on to have great modelling careers. But many of the girls that other judges championed did. The first thing they had to do was throw out their "book" or portfolio from ANTM. In fact the show has a terrible track record. Janice played the show for real. She wanted real models to win. She didn't tell girls to fill in their gap or widen their gap. She didn't say natural black hair was ghetto. She didn't call fat girls "fiercely real." She didn't pick anorexic autistic winners either. Janice played the show for real. She knew what a model should be and can be. All of her choices had more successful careers than any of Tyra's winners.

Most of the contestants themselves have revealed how if you didn't keep up the drama in the house - you were gone, no matter your "potential." Tyra just chose a purposely bad photo that week and that was it. Some of their plane tickets home were booked in advance and in order of elimination. Tyra jiggle Banks and Ken Mok are LOATHED far more than Janice Dickinson. Janice kept it real back then. And she kept it together for a while longer too.

by Anonymousreply 85July 4, 2021 5:32 PM

Eva did have a fairly successful career.

And she was superior to YaYa

by Anonymousreply 86July 4, 2021 5:38 PM

Eva pigface was not a model.

Yaya deserved that win. She is hardly the only example. Yaya is everywhere still. Adrianne Curry was not a model. (She HATES Tyra) But Elise was and was very successful.

Winnie Harlow left in 6th place!

by Anonymousreply 87July 4, 2021 5:49 PM

We’re talking about 2 ridiculous reality shows. Why. Would you take any “reality” show seriously. It’s producer driven entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 88July 4, 2021 6:04 PM

R87 disagree about Adrienne. 100% more interesting and Photogenic than her runner up

by Anonymousreply 89July 4, 2021 6:05 PM

R88 Tyra was head producer of ANTM and Janice was of JDMA. I’m other words, you’re watching them and what they want.

by Anonymousreply 90July 4, 2021 6:06 PM

Elyse Sewell became a successful fashion model, moron at R89. Adrianne Curry is a Maxim spread. Stop hating on Janice. You're an old troll.

As Janice predicted, Elyse became very successful in Japan and modelled there and elsewhere for a decade. Why? Because Janice Dickinson was a REAL Model and one of the best. She understood the job.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 4, 2021 6:14 PM

R91 that isn’t even Janice

by Anonymousreply 92July 4, 2021 6:15 PM

Elyse was not Top Model's biggest blunder or success. But here she is again.

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by Anonymousreply 93July 4, 2021 6:16 PM

Eugena Washington came in what? Third. 15 years ago. And she's still killing it. Commercials, catwalks, beauty campaigns, editorials, videos, AND a Playboy Playmate of the Year!

The winner of that season - bubbly Caridee, works for the Psoriasis Foundation.

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by Anonymousreply 94July 4, 2021 6:32 PM

I've never even heard of this show, but J.P was part of a legendary Survivor moment! I had no idea he was on other shows.

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by Anonymousreply 95July 4, 2021 6:59 PM

I think Elise should have won too, and Adrienne basically said as much. Elise was too caustic and snarky which is why she didn’t win. I remember when she won, Adrienne thanked the judges and Janice said “I didn’vote for you, but thanks!”

Janice also really liked Mercedes over Yoanna in Season 2. And Miss J, who was a great personality on the show but a terrible judge, was not happy Nicole won over NIk in season 5

by Anonymousreply 96July 4, 2021 9:24 PM

I liked [italic]America's Most Smartest Model[/italic] and [italic]Manhunt[/italic] myself.

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by Anonymousreply 97July 4, 2021 9:30 PM

This is for r96. Have you seen Oliver's interviews? He's talked to over 90 of the Top Model girls by now. And Nigel and Nole too. A lot of tea has been spilled! Some of his interviews gossip for hours. He's very gay and very good at this. The ladies spill it. This interview is kind of sedate but wait for the Yohanna shade and then, guess what- She pops IN!

Season Two for sure had the most traditionally "beautiful" top 4. Mercedes, Yohanna, April and Shandi. And yes, Janice did want Mercedes to win. Didn't we all? Janice said that Mercedes reminded her of Gia Carangi and 19 years later - she still does. Exotic and lovely and ethnically interesting. Yoanna was no doubt a beautiful face, but Janice was right about that B O D Y. Turns out Yohanna is as uptight, religious and botoxed as one expects. A television hostess, but not a model.

April was gorgeous in a bit too symmetrical and mathematical way. Nigel had the hots for her in a way that would have him cancelled now. Ha. Tyra said - you just want that ASS. And Nigel said......yes.

Remember the nude shot that Mercedes and April did? It was like a beautiful Gauguin. But Tyra declared it not HIGH FASHION and bye bye April.

Anyway, if you're interested in some of these interviews - you must watch his one on one with SHANDI, R96. She's delightful, hysterical, a true oddball and she HATES Tyra. Not all the alumni had a bad experience of course and some seem more damaged than others. But Oliver unintentionally brought Tyra mean ass Banks to light over the course of the pandemic with these chats. Because most of the contestants have not much good to say about her. And some, much worse.

Sorry for the derailment, but Oliver's interviews ANTM deserve their own thread. Some of the accusations are pretty shocking and some these girls are NUTS. He pretty much got to most of them. He's a very skilled interviewer in his chatty girlfriend kind of way. The girls spill.

Watch Eugenia's interview too. She's so gorgeous now and very fun and wised up.

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by Anonymousreply 98July 4, 2021 10:10 PM

Season 2 (the real winner) Mercedes.

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by Anonymousreply 99July 4, 2021 10:15 PM

R98 OMG, thanks for this! I used to get my gossip from the old TwOP boards (crew and contestants used to post on them!) and reddit AMA’s, but this is just great!

I loved April, I thought she looked like she could have been a Bond girl in the 70’s. I felt so bad for Sara who was eliminated for...not being a good dancer in Tyra’s MUSIC VIDEO!!! Even Tyra was crying because she knew it was foul

by Anonymousreply 100July 4, 2021 10:16 PM

Can you access Oliver's Youtube channel R100? Because he has 105, ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE interviews with ANTM contestants + three of the judges! I'm afraid I have ruined your brain. Ha.

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by Anonymousreply 101July 4, 2021 11:01 PM

Add me to the ever growing list of Tyra haters

by Anonymousreply 102July 4, 2021 11:24 PM

LAME. Lightweight talent, if any

by Anonymousreply 103July 4, 2021 11:41 PM

There is nothing lame about Janice Dickinson. That's the last word to describe her.

[quote]Much like Yaya, Tyra was threatened by Eugena’s looks and body; and she hated her because she couldn’t break her. I love Eugena.

Me Too.

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by Anonymousreply 104July 5, 2021 12:06 AM

Brett Novek, from AMSM, made something of himself by becoming an entrepreneur. I bought one of his original t-shirts when he was making them in his apartment. He is such a nice guy.

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by Anonymousreply 105July 5, 2021 12:21 AM

Brett also did a erotic gay scene in the movie Brotherhood V: Alumni.

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by Anonymousreply 106July 5, 2021 12:26 AM

Anyone remember Kelle from Season 3? Everyone was so fucking MEAN to her that it was hard to watch.

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by Anonymousreply 107July 5, 2021 12:35 AM

🦆 👄

by Anonymousreply 108July 5, 2021 12:38 AM

Sorin was the hottest.

That ass was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 109July 5, 2021 12:49 AM

Tyra had absolutely nothing to be threatened by lmao.

by Anonymousreply 110July 5, 2021 1:21 AM

Tyra Banks was never a model on the level of Janice Dickinson. Not for a moment. A Sports Illustrated cover? Come on. Tyra had a pushy mother, big ass, no calves and her first nose job before she was 18. She was not even 30 years old when she started Top Model and her fashion career was already over. She modelled bras.

by Anonymousreply 111July 5, 2021 1:27 AM

R111 you can keep telling yourself that, but she wasn’t a Sports Illustrated model until mid 90s. She started modeling in the late 80s as a teen and was walking almost every major designers runway in the early 90s. You all love to tear her down but she was the real deal and worked her way to the top, and unlike Janice, is respected in the industry. Janice Is a joke

Tyra did runway, high fashion, commercial and even lingerie and … Sports Illustrated, which made her a household name.

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by Anonymousreply 112July 5, 2021 1:33 AM

CNN covering 19 year old Tyra’s rise to international superstardom in 1992

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by Anonymousreply 113July 5, 2021 1:35 AM

YES TYRA. Strut baby.

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by Anonymousreply 114July 5, 2021 1:40 AM

The beautiful Danielle managed to win and succeed AFTER top model. But not before being forced to close the gap in her front teeth by Tyra and producers. She refused the first time and then was told she would be eliminated if she didn't. So she went back and let the cosmetic dentist do his thing.

Two seasons later, Tyra had a white girl contestant have a gap cut OUT of her front teeth as part of her "makeover."

Tyra Banks is most likely a sociopath. She sure wasn't much of a model. She was thin for about 2 years. That fucking HUGE forehead and no legs on the girl at all. She had a good walk at a time when looking ridiculous was in vogue. She calls herself a drag queen and that's about right. She has a mirror. She certainly wasn't beautiful. Not without a ton of work and makeup.

Naomi Campbell still does print work and walks the occasional runway. She's a legend. A model. From head to toe. Better to be a sketchy humanitarian than Tyra Banks who walked over hundreds of lives with no feeling at all. Oprah embraced Tyra at the start, but saw who she really was soon enough. A ruthless climber with little talent.

Tyra was a straight guy's jerk off model. The light eyed, bad tiny nose job, light skinned black girl with huge natural tits. She was never a high fashion model - except when Naomi was sick or said no.

Find one Tyra beauty cover. She did some. But she's homely as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 115July 5, 2021 1:42 AM

R115 they literally walked runways together 🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 116July 5, 2021 1:49 AM

Tyra is worth more than double what Naomi is and Janice is broke.

by Anonymousreply 117July 5, 2021 1:49 AM

Janice running her mouth back when her show was on.

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by Anonymousreply 118July 5, 2021 1:50 AM

R114. Banks was 17 or 18 years old in those runway shows of 1991. With a face full of makeup and the hips of a 40 year old. Nah.

Hate Janice all you want, but no believes that Tyra Banks was anything more than a jiggle girl with a stage mother. Tyra and Heidi Klum and all the girls after them. They were swimsuit chicks who did some runways. Mostly televised. For Sports Illustrated or Vicky's Secret. Tyra Banks is quite homely to be honest. Giselle and Heidi and Alessandra are naturally pretty women with drop dead gorgeous bodies. Tyra is tits and makeup. A drag queen model.

Janice Dickinson is on every serious list of the top ten supermodels of all time.

Stop your nutty trolling. No one thinks Tyra Banks was an important model. She created a great reality show from her name.

by Anonymousreply 119July 5, 2021 1:52 AM

Tyra was a model who later did swimsuit modeling. R119.

The swimsuit modeling came after years of runways.

by Anonymousreply 120July 5, 2021 1:54 AM

Tyra was gorgeous. And her runway walk was fierce.

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by Anonymousreply 121July 5, 2021 1:54 AM

R106 that’s really bad acting, absolutely no chemistry nor passion

by Anonymousreply 122July 5, 2021 1:57 AM

Cindy is lucky Gia died. Or she would not have been what she was

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by Anonymousreply 123July 5, 2021 2:01 AM

Do the ANTM trolls on this thread just not like Janice and her show?

by Anonymousreply 124July 5, 2021 2:03 AM

See the Eugena interview upthread, R121 and maybe you'll understand better just how mean that fat hipped "fiercely real" bitch Tyra Banks was from the start. She's nuts. Her mommy told her she was special. She's never was. But they were so convinced that she bought one of the worst nosejobs of all time. Because Tyra was so real? Nah. She was desperate and homely and not fierce enough to make it work. So she had surgery. The kind that black girl should think four times about. If Naomi spit on her, I don't blame her. Tyra Banks wasn't nothing as a model. And her "rivalry" with Naomi was completely one sided. Because why would Naomi Campbell ever need to know who Tyra Banks is? She still doesn't.

Tyra is a naturally unattractive human being. She had good tits 20 years ago. The end.

by Anonymousreply 125July 5, 2021 2:07 AM

Tyra did not even get a nose job until she was older. What are you talking about r125??? In the videos posted of her in the 90s upthread she has her natural nose.

Being a stage mom doesn’t get you into modeling. You must not know a thing about modeling.

by Anonymousreply 126July 5, 2021 2:11 AM

[quote] The ANTM people on this thread LOVE Janice

Then why don’t you troll about ANTM somewhere else?

by Anonymousreply 127July 5, 2021 2:13 AM

It's that special guy who loves Jessica Lange and Gia Garageme who is trolling this thread. He hates Janice Dickinson because she was beautiful and an actual supermodel. The old dude is at least 70.

Weird fixations.

The rest of us grew up watching Top Model and are in our late thirties or early 40's. We get Janice. Tyra put on a show - that we all grew up on. But no one believed that Tyra was a top model. We have eyes.

Look at the Janice Dickinson photos posted on this thread. She was a true beauty and a REAL model. As important as Tyra knows how to model, but she was too homely and malformed to ever become one of the greats.

And she had her first nosejob very young. And a very bad nosejob it was. 30 years ago when it wasn't necessary. But in her case it was.

See IMAN. A goddess. She didn't know until people told her so. But we all have eyes and can see. Tyra told herself that she was something. She's just a chick from L.A. who wanted to be white. That fake speaking voice and whispery caring. She's a known viper in every form of the business. Ok. So she's like a man. But she destroyed confidence and contaminated a lot of vulnerable young girls in the process. Sociopath.

She ain't pretty or super anything.

by Anonymousreply 128July 5, 2021 2:29 AM

R128 omg you’re absolutely nuts and make up anything.

Tyra is a supermodel. Literally. Lmao

by Anonymousreply 129July 5, 2021 2:31 AM

I would much prefer to watch a TV show called "Janice Dickinson Detective Agency."

by Anonymousreply 130July 5, 2021 2:33 AM

Super nothing. But ugly. Tyra Banks.

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by Anonymousreply 131July 5, 2021 2:38 AM

R131 most of them don’t look the same without makeup. Welcome to modeling boo

by Anonymousreply 132July 5, 2021 2:43 AM

That’s also her now. Not at 20.

by Anonymousreply 133July 5, 2021 2:43 AM

Gia Garageme was no beauty either. Dog face. Cute.

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by Anonymousreply 134July 5, 2021 2:49 AM

Lmaoooooooo none of them look the same without makeup fool

by Anonymousreply 135July 5, 2021 2:52 AM

Gia was at the top for one year of her life. She was no threat to a beauty like Janice Dickinson. But Janice liked her and they did some fashion work together. Gia looked like a dikey deli worker and was heroine eyed - long before she got the big BITE of AIDS.

You sound desperate R135. Tyra Banks is not just without makeup. She is an UGLY woman. Always has been. Gia was pretty for a day and a half, but never beautiful and free like Janice Dickinson. Janice Dickinson is on every top ten list of the greatest models of all time. Gia is on none of the serious ones.

Dickinson's beauty was not dependent on makeup. Most top model's are not. Then or now.

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by Anonymousreply 136July 5, 2021 2:59 AM

Those ANTM interviews are gold R101. Thanks! Tyra was a mean and shady bitch. Do all the models hate her that much?

I agree with r128. Tyra Banks and supermodel don't go together. She is barely attractive as a woman.

by Anonymousreply 137July 5, 2021 3:12 AM

Tyra is worth over $100 million. Janice is broke.

by Anonymousreply 138July 5, 2021 3:08 PM

JP comes out.

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by Anonymousreply 139July 5, 2021 5:23 PM

^ Sorry, it's a duplicate.

by Anonymousreply 140July 5, 2021 6:05 PM

J.D. got married in 2014 - I hope they are very happy

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by Anonymousreply 141July 5, 2021 6:11 PM

JP was so scared to come out

by Anonymousreply 142July 5, 2021 6:49 PM

Janice was so broke she found an ugly Doctor to marry and rushed him into it.

by Anonymousreply 143July 6, 2021 3:14 PM

You're older, broker and never were beautiful, R143. All alone, in the basement.

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by Anonymousreply 144July 6, 2021 7:37 PM

Janice Dickinson: 37 Vogue Covers

Trya Banks: 1 Vogue Cover (España!)

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by Anonymousreply 145July 6, 2021 8:05 PM

M O D E L

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by Anonymousreply 146July 6, 2021 8:12 PM

What the hell is wrong with Janice's voice in the youtube clip? She sounds like Joan Rivers.

by Anonymousreply 147July 6, 2021 9:25 PM

Who else thought '"Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency" on Oxygen' was a metaphor?

by Anonymousreply 148July 7, 2021 12:24 AM

^Clever. Ha.👏🏾👏🏾

by Anonymousreply 149July 7, 2021 12:26 AM

Tyra is not likable and was hated by almost everyone when she joined Dancing with the Stars as host. She also did a shitty job, made a lot of mistakes, and looked tacky and strung out.

by Anonymousreply 150July 9, 2021 6:00 AM

[quote] She also did a shitty job, made a lot of mistakes, and looked tacky and strung out.

How embarrassing!

by Anonymousreply 151July 9, 2021 6:08 AM

Paula Abdul crawling on the floor with JoJo Crichton in Rise of the Resistance at Disney World.

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by Anonymousreply 152July 9, 2021 3:01 PM

Young Janice

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by Anonymousreply 153July 9, 2021 3:17 PM

R153 pretty but hardly a supermodel like Gia or Cindy

by Anonymousreply 154July 9, 2021 3:37 PM

Gorgeous, r153. It’s easy to see why she became the first supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 155July 9, 2021 3:47 PM

Back in the day, Janice believed her best feature as a model to be her body.

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by Anonymousreply 156July 9, 2021 4:21 PM

[quote]R155 Gorgeous. It’s easy to see why Janice became the first supermodel.

That’s a blatant lie she perpetuates in order to forge a public identity. The term was first used looong before her. Of the names big enough for most of us to still recognize them today, Suzy Parker got there way ahead of Janice.

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by Anonymousreply 157July 9, 2021 6:39 PM
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by Anonymousreply 158July 9, 2021 6:39 PM

Twiggy was also titled a supermodel long before Janice.

by Anonymousreply 159July 9, 2021 6:40 PM

Everyone knows that Janice was a supermodel except that nutcase that loves ugly Tyra and dog face Gia.

Janice is on any list of supermodels. AND All the important lists of supermodels. Tyra is on none of them.

Gia is mentioned, but her career was far too short. Not because of AIDS either. She was a fucking brawling dyke mean bitch heroine addict fucked up mess. Unprofessional and not attractive. Pretty for one year. She was forgotten by the industry long before she died at 26.

by Anonymousreply 160July 9, 2021 6:46 PM

Tyra is very much on Supermodel lists

by Anonymousreply 161July 9, 2021 6:58 PM

[quote]r160 Everyone knows that Janice was a supermodel except that nutcase that loves ugly Tyra and dog face Gia.

Oh just [italic]shut it, [/italic]Janice.

Gia Carangi was a “better” model than almost all her peers by virtue of being an inherently fascinating camera subject. Her pictures have a soulfulness almost utterly lacking in most models’ eyes and presence and pictures from back then.

The ironic thing is I don’t think Gia every “tried” to model, as far as posing, etc. (something Janice was great at.) She was almost a bit clueless in that sense. Gia just WAS.

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by Anonymousreply 162July 9, 2021 7:56 PM

That "soulfulness" is known as heroin eyes. Makes your eyes appear dark and shadowed. Otherwise, Gia looked like a Sears Catalogue model.

by Anonymousreply 163July 9, 2021 8:57 PM

Tragic, yes. A supermodel, no. Heroin eyes. Gia Carangi - burnt out at 22 years old.

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by Anonymousreply 164July 9, 2021 9:08 PM

Janice WISHES she could be as natural as Gia.

by Anonymousreply 165July 9, 2021 9:15 PM

Gia. Incomparable.

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by Anonymousreply 166July 9, 2021 9:22 PM

Man hands and barely open eyes. Too stoned to pose. Gia wasn't natural. She was ordinary. Gia would shoot up during breaks and had so many track marks and abcesses on her hands and arms that she could no longer work. Long before she died. Gia was cute, at best. Cindy Crawford was gorgeous.

Janice Dickinson was a MODEL. She could do it all - as her photos, runways, magazine covers, fashion spreads and beauty campaigns prove. Her list of accomplishments and career achievements can't be matched by that brawling junkie or Tyra tits Banks.

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by Anonymousreply 167July 9, 2021 9:22 PM

Cindy only had a job because Gia couldn’t work.

by Anonymousreply 168July 9, 2021 9:27 PM

Even if Gia could work - she couldn't get work. Scavullo got her this last cover in 1982. She looked puffy, ordinary and 45 years old. She is positioned to hide the track marks on her arms and the "volcano" of an abscess on her hand from shooting up the same spot too many times. No amount of concealer or makeup or the Scavullo studio magic could make her look attractive. She was 22 years old. The end.

Cindy Crawford was stunningly beautiful compared to Gia. They called her baby Gia because of her coloring and natural look. But they didn't call her that for long. Cindy Crawford became a legend. Gia is a sad footnote.

Janice Dickinson is one of the all time top 10 Supermodels.

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by Anonymousreply 169July 9, 2021 9:41 PM

Cindy was literally called Baby Gia when she first came out. She was Gia’s replacement

by Anonymousreply 170July 9, 2021 10:13 PM

[quote] Everyone knows that Janice was a supermodel

And the first.

by Anonymousreply 171July 9, 2021 11:59 PM

Janice wasn’t the first

by Anonymousreply 172July 10, 2021 12:07 AM

Claudia and I don't know her. No one in Paris and Milan knows her.

by Anonymousreply 173July 10, 2021 12:07 AM

Wasnt Kehoe the one that was fired for fucking a client ?

by Anonymousreply 174July 10, 2021 12:18 AM

[quote] Janice wasn’t the first

Not the first model, she was the first supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 175July 10, 2021 12:20 AM

R175 she was neither.

by Anonymousreply 176July 10, 2021 12:21 AM

[quote] Wasnt Kehoe the one that was fired for fucking a client ?

Ask him.

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by Anonymousreply 177July 10, 2021 12:22 AM

There were supermodels long before Janice Dickenson...Twiggy for one.

by Anonymousreply 178July 10, 2021 12:22 AM

r176, yes, she was the first supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 179July 10, 2021 12:23 AM

[quote]R175 Not the first model, she was the first supermodel.

As for firsts, she might be the first model who worked as much as she did yet never got the cover of American Vogue.

#winning?

by Anonymousreply 180July 10, 2021 12:24 AM

Gia was a lesbian

by Anonymousreply 181July 10, 2021 12:25 AM

Twiggy is best remembered as one of the first international supermodels and a fashion icon of the 1960s. Her greatest influence is Jean Shrimpton, whom Twiggy considers to be the world's first supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 182July 10, 2021 12:25 AM

Her being the first supermodel probably makes up for that.

by Anonymousreply 183July 10, 2021 12:25 AM

Gia, our first REAL Supermodel

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by Anonymousreply 184July 10, 2021 12:26 AM

There can only be one first supermodel: Janice.

by Anonymousreply 185July 10, 2021 12:27 AM

Janice, dont you have a cocktail somewhere that needs your attention ?

by Anonymousreply 186July 10, 2021 12:28 AM

Janice was a star fucker not a supermodel - what she did to Stallone was unforgivable. Unfortunately some mistook her for a successful model because Avedon worked with her (he did what the pimp of hers paid for). For two or three years in the late 1970s she was popular in the US.

But Janice never had the aura of a supermodel: ask people who worked in the fashion industry then (if still alive) and it's Lauren Hutton only who was globally known as a supermodel. Even DL-fave Shelley Hack had more model jobs around the world than Janice and as already pointed out before Hutton there were Suzy Parker, Jean Shrimpton, Veruschka (von Lehndorff), and Twiggy.

Janice wasn't the first of anything she claims: Beverly Johnson was the first model to accuse Cosby of rape. But Janice may have been the first model who completely ruined her face with plastic surgeries. However as with Lara Flynn Boyle you now see more of the real bitch that she is.

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by Anonymousreply 187July 10, 2021 12:52 AM

Janice was the first supermodel FIRED from America’s Next Top Model

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by Anonymousreply 188July 10, 2021 1:04 AM

Cool men and women love Janice. One ancient white fat fag, well over 70 years old mourns the loss of Gia Garageme. She made a splash. The industry loved how fucked up she was and she had a great body. The end. No one has anything to say about her talent or personality. By all accounts she was a dumb, temperamental strung out asshole.

Of course Lauren Hutton, Evangelista, Twiggy, Iman, Kate Moss, Naomi and Cindy Crawford are Supermodels too. JANICE is among this top ten on every list. Sometimes with Cocha Rocha and Beverly Johnson and Suzy Parker too. Maybe Claudia Schiffer. That Inez chick.

But never Gia or Tyra? No. They don't have the credentials or the career achievements. Heidi Klum, Alessandra Amnesiac, Tyra and Giselle are just famous RICH models. Nothing super about any of them.

Joan Smalls is a great model. Not likely to join the ranks.

by Anonymousreply 189July 10, 2021 2:03 AM

This man who keeps posting about Gia and Tyra is very sad. It is a losing argument he keeps making. Does he also like Jessica Lange and Tori Amos? That crazy poster is the same I think.

by Anonymousreply 190July 10, 2021 3:02 AM

^ Yup. NUTS.

by Anonymousreply 191July 10, 2021 3:04 AM

[quote] This man who keeps posting about Gia and Tyra is very sad. It is a losing argument he keeps making. Does he also like Jessica Lange and Tori Amos? That crazy poster is the same I think.

Janice had a great career. She also had substance abuse problems, slept around and has nothing to show for her great career. She’s well known now for being a crazy mess. She’s not remembered for being a successful model. Despite a great career, she was not a household name.

Tyra has also had a modeling great career. She is a household name. She parlayed her modeling career into a business empire. She’s worth almost 100 million dollars. She didn’t squander her career and reputation on drugs, alcohol and men.

by Anonymousreply 192July 10, 2021 3:23 AM

Janice screwed some famous men and herself. Tyra Banks screwed over everyone she ever encountered. And exploited hundreds of young women. On Top Model and her "talk show." She's the trashy one in looks and choices. She's ruthless and RICH. Loathed by her victims and disliked by the public. We SEE her.

Admire the one you want.

At least Janice was beautiful and had some fun. She took being a model seriously and worked hard to maintain herself and career. Worked with the very best and was the very best.

Tyra has a decades long substance abuse problem too - insatiable desires for Fame, $$$ & FOOD.

by Anonymousreply 193July 10, 2021 3:44 AM

Fake Bitch = Tyra Banks

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by Anonymousreply 194July 10, 2021 4:11 AM

[quote] Janice screwed some famous men and herself. Tyra Banks screwed over everyone she ever encountered. And exploited hundreds of young women. On Top Model and her "talk show." She's the trashy one in looks and choices. She's ruthless and RICH. Loathed by her victims and disliked by the public. We SEE her. Admire the one you want.

Reality show participants are not victims and everyone knows reality shows are not real. Janice’s models are not victims and neither are the ANTM contestants. It’s like claiming to be a victim because American Idol didn’t make you a pop super star or Project Runway didn’t turn you into super star designer. Reality tv is not how stars are made. It will potentially get you exposure, that you wouldn’t have gotten. However, chances are slim that you will become a superstar and you are agreeing to participate in the producer driven storylines.

Again despite Janice’s great career, she was not a household name. As far as trashy goes. She was a drunken drugged up mess, fucking everything that moved. Which no doubt overshadowed her great career. Her television career consist of her being an over the top psycho mess.

[quote] At least Janice was beautiful and had some fun. She took being a model seriously and worked hard to maintain herself and career. Worked with the very best and was the very best.

If she took her career seriously. She would not have partied the way that she did. She too could have parlayed her success into a business empire. She didn’t. She drank, drugged and partied her way into obscurity.

[quote] Tyra has a decades long substance abuse problem too - insatiable desires for Fame, $$$ & FOOD.

Tyra found fame and fortune very early and she had sense enough not to squander it. Your attempts to turn her into a villain (because she succeeded where Janice failed) are silly. And she was kind enough to give Janice’s crazy broke ass a job. And Janice desperately needed that job.

by Anonymousreply 195July 10, 2021 4:15 AM

Tyra fired Janice. Tyra fired Paulina Porizkova, Tyra fired Twiggy, Tyra fired Jay Manuel, Nigel Barker and Miss Jay. She had someone else deliver the news, while she cut them dead. Tyra was fired by Oprah Winfrey, because Banks is a mean girl viper, prone to lying.

Kind and Tyra Banks are not words that belong in the same sentence. Most every word of your post is a lie R195. You're that Gia nutjob too.

Your fixation on lies is sad. Keep lighting the pipe but please move on to one of your other DL obsessions.

Go on now Gramps.

by Anonymousreply 196July 10, 2021 4:26 AM

[quote] Tyra fired Janice. Tyra fired Paulina Porizkova, Tyra fired Twiggy, Tyra fired Jay Manuel, Nigel Barker and Miss Jay. She had someone else deliver the news, while she cut them dead. Tyra was fired by Oprah Winfrey, because Banks is a mean girl viper, prone to lying. Kind and Tyra Banks are not words that belong in the same sentence. Most every word of your post is a lie [R195]. You're that Gia nutjob too. Your fixation on lies is sad. Keep lighting the pipe but please move on to one of your other DL obsessions. Go on now Gramps.

Projection.

I’ve posted nothing about Gia because I know nothing about her. I did however watch Janice’s show. I also watched the Surreal Life season that featured her. I did not watch ANTM. Janice made great tv because she is batshit crazy.

by Anonymousreply 197July 10, 2021 4:37 AM

Haha. This old man at R197 has never watched ANTM but is defending Tyra Banks? Hilarious. She's fucking cancelled by everyone ever associated with that show and she keeps fake apologizing. Janice Dickinson made Top Model for Tyra. Not the other way around.

Tyra is a textbook narcissist and a most ugly woman. She discards people as soon as they are not of use to her or when they gain more attention than she. She was disgusting to most of the contestants on her show. It's not a matter of reality TV. She is HATED.

R197 is not believable anyway. We can see his other posts. He is lying.

by Anonymousreply 198July 10, 2021 5:03 AM

R189 "Of course Lauren Hutton, Evangelista, Twiggy, Iman, Kate Moss, Naomi and Cindy Crawford are Supermodels too. JANICE is among this top ten on every list. Sometimes with Cocha Rocha and Beverly Johnson and Suzy Parker too. Maybe Claudia Schiffer. That Inez chick. But never Gia or Tyra? No. They don't have the credentials or the career achievements. Heidi Klum, Alessandra Amnesiac, Tyra and Giselle are just famous RICH models. Nothing super about any of them."

You got this all right except for one model. Janice had the potential for a very short period 77'-78' and then it slowed down before a complete crash after her first surgeries in the 1980s. But I give her that: between 1977-83 Janice's career is comparable to those of Heidi, Tyra and Giselle. Some good print work. But they didn't left lasting images on the catwalk, hadn't any impact on designers and were no one's muses. (Their TV jobs don't count!)

by Anonymousreply 199July 10, 2021 5:22 AM

The proof is in the pudding. Gia easily upstaged Janice in every pic they took together.

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by Anonymousreply 200July 10, 2021 5:40 AM

[quote]Of course Lauren Hutton, Evangelista, Twiggy, Iman, Kate Moss, Naomi and Cindy Crawford are Supermodels too. JANICE is among this top ten on every list. Sometimes with Cocha Rocha and Beverly Johnson and Suzy Parker too. Maybe Claudia Schiffer. That Inez chick. But never Gia or Tyra? No. They don't have the credentials or the career achievements.

Excuse me? Tyra Banks was a Supermodel. People can hate her all they want but she was.

Booking 25 shows in 1991 cemented her as one, which was more than anyone had in history at that time. Competing for jobs with Naomi Campbell as the "other" black Supermodel of that period made her one and that's also how their "rivalry" started.

If you were to ask any normal person outside of Datalounge (Where this and yes even the Gia thing keep coming up) they would put Tyra right up there with The Big 5.

But I will give that was partial because she was the other black girl that wasn't Alek Wek but she was much more popular than her even before her TV career.

[quote]But they didn't left lasting images on the catwalk, hadn't any impact on designers and were no one's muses. (

Kimora Lee Simmons was Karl Lagerfeld's muse at Chanel but most people wouldn't call her a Supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 201July 10, 2021 6:12 AM

There was no rivalry between Tryhard Banks and Naomi Campbell. Naomi doesn't know Tyra. Why would she?

Pat Cleveland is the great runway model of then and now and then. Who is Black. Beverly Johnson and Iman are the ones the public knows. Naomi admires them all. Naomi is LEGEND. No one got excited by Tyra's lil jiggle gig. She was a lightweight and light skinned girl from the start. Nothing Black about her.

Naomi is a goddess to Black and white women. Watch her. Tyra was a chick from Compton. Except that's just another lie that she tells. She was never super in any way. Tyra's a Drag Queen who sells SMIZE ice cream. Fiercely Fake.

by Anonymousreply 202July 11, 2021 6:40 AM

R201 Lagerfeld had a few muses but I think between Baptiste, Brad, Tatjana, Claudia or Nadja only Claudia deserves the title supermodel. My point though wasn't they had to be a muse, it is a combination of the elements I've cited. Sadly the term supermodel is overused since it first came up when local newspapers used it for every little catalog model the poor writer wanted to flatter.

by Anonymousreply 203July 11, 2021 6:58 AM

R202 there very much was a rivalry, created by the industry. Tyra became a supermodel in 1991, booking 25 shows back to back. She was a HIGH FASHION runway model before anything else.

by Anonymousreply 204July 11, 2021 11:38 AM

Theyre MODELS. They got lucky because of their looks. Its not rocket science, they didnt cure cancer, they didnt solve societies ills.

by Anonymousreply 205July 11, 2021 1:28 PM

How do you KNOW this, r205??

They could well have a science lab deep beneath Elite Model Management.

by Anonymousreply 206July 11, 2021 2:19 PM

R190 I'm the Tori Amos troll. Leave me out of this lame debate about who was called a supermodel first. It's utter semantics, and whomever was called "supermodel" the first time had nothing to do with thr label being assigned to her, anyway. Pure silliness that this has gone on for so long. Janice Dickinson was brilliant by accident or by design for making this claim because people are never going to shut up about it and therefore will keep talking about her, which is all she wants. She was pretty, lots of women are pretty, and if that's the only talent they can offer the world, then have a look and move on.

by Anonymousreply 207July 11, 2021 3:54 PM

^ Exactly how I feel about Tori Amos's "singing." You've heard her sing one song - you now know all she can do. She also mutilates some great songs by better artists and bands. Have a quick listen and move on. The world did.

Janice Dickinson is better known than Tori Amos. World's First Supermodel.

by Anonymousreply 208July 11, 2021 5:33 PM

[R107], the other models from that era have either retired or didn't fuck up their faces to Joker level with bad plastic surgery and turn into bitter, snarling attention whores whoring for the camera.

by Anonymousreply 209July 11, 2021 5:47 PM

Sorry, [R207].

by Anonymousreply 210July 11, 2021 5:48 PM

Tyra who?

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by Anonymousreply 211July 11, 2021 7:02 PM

A muse. For YSL. Iman.

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by Anonymousreply 212July 11, 2021 7:06 PM

Supermodel

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by Anonymousreply 213July 11, 2021 7:21 PM

Tyra Banks modelled bras and hosts reality shows.

Iman was a supermodel. Her beauty is legend.

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by Anonymousreply 214July 11, 2021 7:53 PM

Since this thread is already off-topic:

I’m rewatching Make Me a Supermodel season 2, and cannot stand Jordan.

by Anonymousreply 215July 11, 2021 9:02 PM

Tyra tried to psyche out and victimize Heidi Klum and Project Runway too! Now it can be told. Tyra is a shark. With tougher skin and further apart eyes. The ugly model. H to T.

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by Anonymousreply 216July 17, 2021 1:36 AM

Stop comparing Tyra to Janice and Iman. Tyra is not their peer, she came much later. She was peers with Naomi, Cindy, Claudia, Linda, Christie etc.

by Anonymousreply 217July 17, 2021 2:03 AM

R215 where are you watching it. I loved that show and was sad it got canned after season 2. Season 2 was much better than season 1, which was a bore.

by Anonymousreply 218July 17, 2021 2:04 AM

[quote]Tyra is not their peer, she came much later. She was peers with Naomi, Cindy, Claudia, Linda, Christie etc.

In birth years only. Tyra does not belong in that group either. She was a tits model. She doesn't belong in the same sentence as any of them.

I CONTRASTED her to Iman, Janice, Naomi, Linda, Lil Kate Moss, Cindy, Lauren Hutton, Twiggy and Coco Rocha because THOSE women ARE supermodels. For all time.

Tyra Banks is a businesswoman, who had a brief career as a model.

by Anonymousreply 219July 17, 2021 2:16 AM

R219 is desperate to rewrite history

by Anonymousreply 220July 17, 2021 2:17 AM

R218 I paid for both seasons on YouTube. I think each season costs $9.99 for standard definition, and $19.99 for high definition. I also agree that season 2 was the better season.

by Anonymousreply 221July 17, 2021 2:31 AM

[quote] R219, is desperate to rewrite history

It's really rather sad.

These conversations always go the same way on here.

XYZ was a Supermodel.

No, she wasn't. I think this person and this person and this person were but not THAT PERSON because of (some random qualifications I just made up).

Someone with sense will chime in that, "The media gave them those titles!"

Then of course that same someone from before will reappear and say something like, WELL THEY DID THAT TO EVERYONE! Not knowing that this line of thinking actually hurts their cause or that no, no they did NOT call everyone a supermodel.

There are clear facts you can pull and financial figures you can look at from that time period. Unless you were writing for Vogue at the time, nothing anyone says really matters in relation to past discussion about it. Naomi, Claudia, Heidi, Iman and yes Tyra were all considered supermodels not just by the general print media, not just by the public, but the actual fashion experts that wrote about them and the designers they worked with.

[quote]Tyra tried to psyche out and victimize Heidi Klum and Project Runway too!

And yet, they never stopped being friends that have appeared together and smized a bit too much over the years to have actually ever genuinely hated one another over whatever happened in relation to Bank's thoughts on the show. A lot of people thought the show about designers wouldn't do well. It was the first of its kind. They didn't account for their personalities. That and the outfits are why it endured so long.

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by Anonymousreply 222July 17, 2021 2:38 AM

I think Twiggy wins just based on the mass merchandising at the time.

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by Anonymousreply 223July 17, 2021 2:44 AM

and...

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by Anonymousreply 224July 17, 2021 2:45 AM

R222 is INSANE! And loves CAPS! And we all KNOW who that IS!!! La LOON!

Neither Heidi or Tyra are supermodels. They made lots of money in TV and were once popular in lingerie.

Janice Dickinson and the others mentioned here are the real supermodels. As for Vogue, like Bazaar, Elle and WWD - it has its own list of all time supermodels. Tyra titty Banks is not on it. Heidi Klum would never even be considered. Does Tyra have 37 Vogue covers? (one)

R222 is NUTS and hates the gorgeous JANICE DICKINSON! He can scream like an old woman who needs her diaper changed - because he does. But it won't rewrite history.

by Anonymousreply 225July 17, 2021 2:57 AM

Battle of the bad nosejobs @ R222. Tyra wins by a five mile forehead.

by Anonymousreply 226July 17, 2021 3:04 AM

and, of course...

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by Anonymousreply 227July 17, 2021 3:12 AM

1980

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by Anonymousreply 228July 17, 2021 3:40 AM

Vogue. Paris. Janice.

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by Anonymousreply 229July 17, 2021 3:43 AM

and...

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by Anonymousreply 230July 17, 2021 3:52 AM

b e a u t y

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by Anonymousreply 231July 17, 2021 6:01 AM

Love the Twiggy Barbie doll, R227.

by Anonymousreply 232July 17, 2021 2:47 PM

Would you like Twiggy eyebrows?

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by Anonymousreply 233July 17, 2021 3:01 PM

Is there a thread on the new season of “Making the Cut” on Amazon?

I’m thinking you guys would know.

by Anonymousreply 234July 17, 2021 3:39 PM

Girls, girls, GIRLS! They are ALL models of note with their own unique beauty and talent. They ALL bring something to the table. Don’t let’s quibble over superlatives.

by Anonymousreply 235July 17, 2021 4:10 PM

R234 I searched the site and found one. Did you try searching?

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by Anonymousreply 236July 17, 2021 4:18 PM

I wanted to fuck her son, Nathan.

by Anonymousreply 237July 17, 2021 4:21 PM

[quote]R236 I searched the site and found one. Did you try searching?

For my supermodel status?

Yes. For years. It was nowhere to be found.

by Anonymousreply 238July 17, 2021 4:31 PM

^ Tyra ^

by Anonymousreply 239July 17, 2021 6:41 PM

Survivors of ANTM call her Tyrant.

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by Anonymousreply 240July 17, 2021 11:57 PM

Janice spills more tea abt Tyra. Lol.

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by Anonymousreply 241August 9, 2021 12:42 AM

When is Janice going to announce that she is transitioning?

Get the poor woman some water, she's ever so thirsty.

by Anonymousreply 242August 9, 2021 4:08 AM

I need this show back

by Anonymousreply 243January 1, 2022 5:42 PM

R241, Janice comes off like a total bitch.

by Anonymousreply 244January 1, 2022 7:31 PM

Fuck this show, I want Janice to host the nightly news. Can’t be worse than the alternatives.

She needs to be in our face with her newest face. It would be a camp delight every night. Appointment TV.

by Anonymousreply 245January 2, 2022 6:35 AM

Wow after watching the Tyra clip I have new respect for her. She is an excellent dramatic actress. Why is she not acting in film, t.v. or stage? Rarely have I seen such a powerful dramatic acting display of anger! Brava!

by Anonymousreply 246January 18, 2022 3:12 AM
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