Coming Supreme Court decision in major LGBT rights case seen as bellwether of conservative court
The Supreme Court is expected to release a decision in the coming days that could provide the first glimpses of how its 6-3 conservative majority will shape the future of LGBT rights.
The case, known as Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, No. 19-123, is a fight over a city policy that bars discrimination based on sexual orientation. Citing the policy, Philadelphia dropped a contract with a Roman Catholic foster agency that said its beliefs didn’t allow it to certify same-sex couples for adoption. The agency, Catholic Social Services, brought a lawsuit alleging that Philadelphia violated its First Amendment religious rights.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Thursday at 9:45 PM|
This will further cement that religious belief are protected under free speech even if they discriminate. The cake maker set precedent. This will follow. They should tread lightly. Catholic/Christian is but one religion. It will open the door for what they fear most. Sharia Law.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/31/2021|
Yeah, the cake maker. This is going to be a large serving of horse shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/31/2021|
And how do we fight back?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/31/2021|
I am old, really old and I am tired of the struggle. Decades of defiance and marches and protests can all go by the wayside in a heartbeat. Anyone with eyes can see what is coming. Abortion rights, voting rights, LGBTQ rights are all endangered. Whether it gets Millenials and future generations off their entitled butts is anybody's guess. I have my doubts.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/31/2021|
Rights have to be codified in law. We can’t rely on precedence. SCOTUS has shown it is willing to overturn precedents when it serves their purpose. We need civil rights laws, voting rights laws, etc. Congress has the power to put limits on what the courts can do, and those limits also need to be codified in law.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/31/2021|
Remember when conservative religious folk used to complain that gays wanted "special rights?" Of course what we really want is equal rights.
Religious conservatives are the ones who want special rights, and they think they're entitled to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/31/2021|
If there can be a church that glorifies guns, what cant there be a church of gays
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/31/2021|
Are there more non-religious/secular foster agencies than religious ones in Pennsylvania? Could the non-religious ones just poach from and/or siphon away foster kids from the religious ones, like how I'm sure competing butchers try to steal the best cuts from the meat market away from their competitors' butcher shops?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/31/2021|
Why not point out how many of these straight, high almighty, religious right conservatives turn out to be pedophiles? Throw those legit facts of at these people on a grassroot level? Shame these followers for supporting pedophiles, Satanists hiding in religous sheep clothing, scam artists, traitors, etc.
The truth is on our side, and yet we don't use it.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/31/2021|
^Fundies really don’t give a shit about pedophiles. All they care about is banning abortion and destroying gay rights
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/31/2021|
We'll lose this one. Its not a subject that interests most of us so I won't weep this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/31/2021|
I thought the cake maker was about it being a private business and as such has the right to refuse customers service as they desire. Wasn't that the same law applied to Twitter being able to refuse the Orange Menace the right to keep a Twitter account?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/31/2021|
Uh oh, it involves a church. Religion trumps everything. We'll lose this one.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/31/2021|
[quote] Whether it gets Millenials and future generations off their entitled butts is anybody's guess. I have my doubts.
Oh, dear, and you’re an idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Thursday at 5:08 AM|
The cake maker didn't totally win his case slam dunk. SCOTUS just said the city which took away his business license for violating their discrimination law didn't take his faith into consideration. Then it pushed the case back to them.
SCOTUS did not say the cake maker had any right to refuse service to gays.
That said, it was a different SCOTUS at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Thursday at 5:17 AM|
While a religious organization should be able to do whatever it wants, it shouldn't be able to demand tax money to do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Thursday at 5:17 AM|
[quote] what cant there be a church of gays
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Thursday at 5:31 AM|
[quote] SCOTUS did not say the cake maker had any right to refuse service to gays.
True, but that wasn’t the issue before the court, since the business didn’t bar gay customers. The court looked at the narrower situation of whether the state could compel the baker to make a product for a specific purpose.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Thursday at 5:52 AM|
You push. They push back. And so it goes. And on and on.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Thursday at 5:55 AM|
[quote] The court looked at the narrower situation of whether the state could compel the baker to make a product for a specific purpose.
SCOTUS didn't address that either. It kicked it back to the city
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Thursday at 9:22 AM|
Soon after the gay wedding cake baker case was SCOTUS decision was released, SCOTUS also released the LGBT cannot be fired for being LGBT decision, with a strong description of how gays must have equality.
Of course, this new SCOTUS will prioritize religion over civil rights.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Thursday at 9:38 AM|
[quote] SCOTUS will prioritize religion over civil rights
Freedom of religion 𝒊𝒔 the first civil right.
𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘯𝘰 𝘭𝘢𝘸 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘩𝘪𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘦𝘳𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘰𝘧
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Thursday at 9:56 AM|
[Quote]While a religious organization should be able to do whatever it wants,
No, no, no, no...
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Thursday at 9:59 AM|
Tax these fucking "churches". They want to behave like a business then TAX them.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Thursday at 10:03 AM|
The Supreme Court is now an agency of the Catholic Church.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Thursday at 10:11 AM|
Religious liberty is the first Constitutional right.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Thursday at 10:37 AM|
[quote] Freedom of religion 𝒊𝒔 the first civil right.
The Amendments are not in the order of importance. The question is which one will take precedence and should taxpayer money support discrimination?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Thursday at 10:47 AM|
In states that allowed Evangelical adoption agencies to deny whom they wanted (pointed specifically at prospective gay parents), they have also denied adoption to Jewish parents. Unintended consequence, I guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Thursday at 10:52 AM|
It’s not a 6-3 majority. Roberts is a liberal and Gorsuch is a libertarian. This both are useless to the kind of movement conservatives would like to see with rolling back the awful decisions legalizing abortion and same-sex marriage.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Thursday at 10:55 AM|
I don't see same sex marriage going anywhere considering support is over 70%. I do see conservatives trying to diminish it with religious-based cases like the current one.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Thursday at 11:00 AM|
It is way past time to make Judaism the national religion.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Thursday at 11:14 AM|
R23: Fuck that bullshit. No amendment is set in stone. Not even that one.
I’m sorry, but the first amendment was the first big mistake this country made. Not forbidding these bigoted death cults has allowed them to violate our civil rights at every turn.
The first amendment has got to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Thursday at 11:17 AM|
My pussy is moist, I'm ready for this one!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Thursday at 11:28 AM|
Conservatives are true evil. They don't care about reality, they just want their fantasy stories and nothing else matters to them. People suffering HERE and NOW have no meaning for them. They have contempt for reality and believe everything will be great WHEN YOU'RE DEAD. Having them on the Supreme Court or any position of power (which they ALWAYS crave) is the death of fairness and clear headed thinking.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Thursday at 11:58 AM|
People like r35 make me grateful for the First Amendment, and the fact his views are of a tiny minority.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Thursday at 4:49 PM|
People like R36 will excuse fucking children by church officials, sexually mutilating babies and young girls for their "religion" and conning frightened stupid old people out of their life savings tax free for the voracious bottomless pit of the church. Nothing real matters to these zombified believers. Nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Thursday at 5:10 PM|
[quote] I don't see same sex marriage going anywhere considering support is over 70%. I do see conservatives trying to diminish it with religious-based cases like the current one.
In the future, it will be the only game in town.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Thursday at 9:45 PM|