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Did American Idol, The Voice and These Other Singing Competitions Spoil the Music Industry of Today?

Somehow, I think it did. Especially with the so-called "judges" being so dismissive of many talented musicians who may not have the "IT" factor or stage presence, according to those judges. The indifference has numbed audiences to talented singers and have them searching for something else to the point where non-singers are dominating the music industry. A lot of the old school musicians, singers and even pop stars (many with memorable hits you will still hear on radio) wouldn't have made it today in these competitions.

Would a Mama Cass have made it today if they went on A.I.? Would a Carly Simon? Would the Beatles? Would Tina Turner or Patti LaBelle?

by Anonymousreply 2405/04/2021

I think so. They all tend to sound the same, and I'm not into whatever sound that is.

by Anonymousreply 105/04/2021

The Information Age is driving culture in general to become more homogenized. It is pretty boring. I think good, unique music still exists in most genres, but you have to hunt for it.

by Anonymousreply 205/04/2021

Singing competitions ruined live music. When was the last time a real band that play instruments was popular? Those types of shows made singers (especially diva types) out to be the only important thing about music. As a result the current popular artists are solo singers fronting interchangeable back up bands. When was the last time a young guitarist got noticed for their talent? The only musician I can think of is St. Vincent(Annie) but she's not nearly a household name like Miley Cyrus. If Led Zeppelin was around today it would be billed as Robert Plant and no one would care about the players.

by Anonymousreply 305/04/2021

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don't think so. At least they emphasize singing and pay homage to the singers of the past. A lot of the music produced by AI contestants may not be very good, but at least are songs. I think the loss of monetization due to streaming that has hit songwriters especially hard is the prime culprit of why music is shit now.

by Anonymousreply 405/04/2021

Only in the shithole America industry. Go listen to French pop or Brit pop and they are still catchy and tuneful.

by Anonymousreply 505/04/2021

I wish instrumental music was more popular. Singing has become so overrated.

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by Anonymousreply 605/04/2021

Or Wayne Newton? Yma Sumac, Ethel Waters or Enrico Caruso? Polly Bergen? What about Hildegard or Harry Nillson or Connie Boswell or Beatrice Lillie?

Tammy Grimes? The Harrisburg Honeybees? The Four Blind Boys of Alabama? What about the Food Blind Boys of Mississippi or the Three Blind Boys and a Cross-Eyed Colleen of County Cork? Tito Jackson? L'il Biggie Bigger? Sho'now Q? Rihanna? The Association? The Cowsills?

What about Leontyne Price? Jimmie Rogers? Thelonius Monk? Def Leppard? Patty Andrews? Laverne Andrews? Maxine Andrews? Celia Cruz? Kathryn Grasyon?

And what about the King Sisters?


by Anonymousreply 705/04/2021


I'm so upset I can't SPEL!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 805/04/2021

Harry Nilsson was attractive enough with a beard. Wayne Newton, I will never understand his appeal.

by Anonymousreply 905/04/2021

Televised talent shows have been around for a very long time so I don't think so. I believe today's music "situation" has more to do with Napster, digital delivery, death of the CD/liner notes, Spotify, etc. When Idol, Voice and all the others exploded in popularity, I don't think it necessarily harmed the industry.

by Anonymousreply 1005/04/2021

Who needs any of those singers when you have Carrie Underwood....




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by Anonymousreply 1205/04/2021

[quote] I think the loss of monetization due to streaming that has hit songwriters especially hard is the prime culprit of why music is shit now.

For any of us who were alive in the 70s/80s/90s it's all changed, for several reasons.

Contracts have gotten WORSE, not better. And larger record labels are only signing acts that can be promoted around the world. Like broadcast TV, no one is taking chances.

Artists get SO LITTLE from streaming it's ridiculous.

It makes no sense for them to go the old route. The last few that have done it, and experienced success: Adele, Beyonce, Amy W and Coldplay. And their initial records (or their bands' original records) were 15 to 20 years ago. Most wide appeal artists in the last decade have emerged from reality shows.

On the positive side, indie bands and artists with talent and a specific appeal can sign to small labels or go via Bandcamp and or YouTube. They can control the music, image, etc. in a way that wasn't possible before.

by Anonymousreply 1305/04/2021

An amazing song is an amazing song. Its more about the producer/songwriters than the singing talent. When you hear it either you want to play it again over and over or not

by Anonymousreply 1405/04/2021

I agree, and I think those that are truly talented get discouraged early on and give up. Unless you have a "brand" you're likely not to be heard sadly.

by Anonymousreply 1505/04/2021

Singers no longer interpret songs. They hit the right notes or have vocal pyrotechnics, but they don't make you feel anything. Singing is really storytelling in the same way as someone who acts or paints or writes. It's not always about vocal perfection. It helps, sure, but if you can't make us feel anything, why bother? This style has found its way to Broadway in the past 20 years and it's all the worse for it.

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by Anonymousreply 1705/04/2021

R17, why does it matter whether Carly Simon would have made it on American Idol? It's not like being on AI is the only way to make it in the industry.

by Anonymousreply 1805/04/2021

R16 is the "everything was better in my day" troll.

by Anonymousreply 1905/04/2021

R11, Carrie Underwood sucks. She makes Faith Hill looks punk rock

by Anonymousreply 2005/04/2021

I agree, OP. More importance is placed on style than substance. Your mediocre voice is acceptable as long as you're telegenic.

The silly thing is: do any of these singing competition shows produce music stars? You have Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood. . . and who else? What a poor track record.

AI and The Voice are like America's Next Top Model and its spinoffs. Very very few of the winners actually become successful singers or top fashion models. Most can aspire to temporary, reality show D-list fame. Eventually, they become a footnote. Next.

by Anonymousreply 2105/04/2021

Imagine Madonna on one of these singing competitions. She can't sing on key live.

by Anonymousreply 2205/04/2021

If it weren't for American Idol, the world would have been deprived of the greatest singer of our time.

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by Anonymousreply 2305/04/2021

Idol trash Bump

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