Perhaps a piece of Mahler's?
What's the first re-opened show you'll make it a point not to see?
Carry on, you crazy kids.
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Perhaps a piece of Mahler's?
What's the first re-opened show you'll make it a point not to see?
Carry on, you crazy kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 601||Last Wednesday at 4:19 AM|
Link to old thread
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/04/2021|
HALSTON starring Ewan McGregor has a fair number of NYC Theater actors in it. Looks interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/04/2021|
Chicago will be the first to reopen with Melania as Roxy
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/04/2021|
ANGELS IN AMERICA opened 28 years ago today.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/04/2021|
Why did the Shubert Org. remove the brightly lit, old-timey, vertical sign for the St. James? New name coming for the old girl?
The Terrence McNally, perhaps?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/04/2021|
Insiders have always called it "The James," R5.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/04/2021|
Vicki Clark as Mame?
On “Stars In The House” tonight, Ann Harada said she wants to do it with herself as Gooch, Victoria Clark as Mame and Harriet Harris as Vera.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/04/2021|
Due to Olympia's recent death, I rewatched Moonstruck last night and was struck with how absolutely charming (but slight) a story it is. Wasn't John Patrick Shanley working on a musical version himself a few years back?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/04/2021|
R8, I rewatched it last night also. The character acting in it is really superb, from the leads down to the smallest roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/04/2021|
I always adored this scene.
Acting students? Watch two masters at work.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/04/2021|
Agreed/ r10, Great scene. TALENT matters.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/04/2021|
Man, John Mahoney was so underrated. The first time he really made an impression on me was Say Anything. He gave an Oscar nomination worthy performance in that as Ione Skye's father (and having to act opposite her and managing to stay awake is a feat unto itself). While I saw this first, I didn't necessarily remember it being him in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/04/2021|
I love "MoonstrucK', but an Italian-American friend years ago told me he found it unbelievable that a married Italian woman would invite a strange man (John Mahoney) to sit at her table at a restaurant that she was a regular at and where nearly everyone including the waiters and maitre d' knew her.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/04/2021|
John was gay, yes?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/04/2021|
Yes, but maybe that's what she wanted, R13. She knew her husband was stepping out on her and maybe she wanted it to get back to him.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/04/2021|
The other #418. Is it dead or still going?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/04/2021|
Uggh. The world has moved on, R16.
So must we.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/04/2021|
Yes, in a thread with another dull title.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/04/2021|
A title that spelled "THEATRE" properly, R18.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/04/2021|
I'm sitting listening to a selection of showtunes...
Songs from A NEW BRAIN are playing. Does William Finn ever write a second draft? Good lord, this is a mess.
He was teaching at NYU for a while. Anyone have stories?
(FWIW, I love FALSETTOS.)
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/04/2021|
Continuing the DROOD discussion from 418, here's the dish on Loretta Swit as Puffer:
In short: Swit was a royal pain in the ass. Total diva. Even the costume designer loathed her! She also became frustrated early in her (brief) run as she was never being selected as murderess. So she took it upon herself to add bits of business on stage (and off) to up the ante and indicate to the audience that SHE killed Drood. Ridiculous, right? Hold onto your hats...
The story goes that in the 'No Good Can Come From Bad' scene (where all the characters - minus Puffer - are at the dinner table demonstrating possible motive as killers) Loretta found a lantern and flash light and for several nights, *inserted* herself in the scene. How? Well apparently she was sneaking behind the set and leering through the windows with her lantern, making all kinds of 'evil' faces. Literal upstaging in the middle of the number! Sometimes she would even sneak a prop knife and work it into the routine.
It got so bad that the cast threatened to write her up on Equity charges...this was when George Rose threatened to walk. But Wilford Leach, sweet as he was, never wanted to tell anyone 'no', so he just ensured the lighting designer 'killed' any lighting behind the set window, so the audience would never be able to see her even if she tried it again! Needless to say, Karen Morrow was a welcome sight when she came in and replaced her.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/04/2021|
OK now [italic]that[/italic] is good tea. I've heard about her mugging but these are new details. thank you r21 you're a very model for us all.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/04/2021|
My pleasure R22! Hopefully we can tee-up the tea in this thread...and avoid in the inevitable descent into BAJOUR or FOLLIES!
BTW here's a fun footnote for la Swit... One night George Rose got so annoyed by all the "Hey Hot Lips!" hecklers in the audience that he ad-libbed, "Gentlemen! The theatre is like a BALLOON...all it takes is one little PRICK to ruin it! ...and I DO mean LITTLE, sir!" Pretty great.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/04/2021|
[quote]A title that spelled "THEATRE" properly, [R18].
All the West Germanic languages (American English, German, Dutch) spell it "theater." For whatever reason, British English opted to adopt the French spelling "théâtre," which is odd because they usually hate the French. I guess they detest the Americans more. For example, the British introduced Received Pronunciation in the 19th century to differentiate themselves from Americans, post-Revolutionary War. Thus, movies/shows that take place in pre-1800s England, where the characters speak the King's/Queen's English, are historically inaccurate.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/04/2021|
[Quote] One night George Rose got so annoyed by all the "Hey Hot Lips!" hecklers in the audience that he ad-libbed, "Gentlemen! The theatre is like a BALLOON...all it takes is one little PRICK to ruin it! ...and I DO mean LITTLE, sir!"
Fantastic r23, MORE PLEASE! Btw, Did you post in the "Nasty People on Broadway" threads years ago? I think i recognize your "voice" as the poster with T and Dish about Bacall, Lupone, Mirren and asorted Divas
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/04/2021|
Swit also made Al Hirschfeld cry when she harangued him about his caricature of her. She has had the post-M*A*S*H career she truly deserved.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/04/2021|
Did anyone here see the national tour of DROOD with Jean Stapleton and George Rose? It also starred Mark Jacoby as Jasper (the McGillin role) and Paige O'Hara as Drood. Clive Revill stepped in halfway thru when Rose was murdered on hiatus in the Dominican Republic.
Stapleton seemed as good a fit for Puffer as Chits did in the 2012 revival. Lulu's casting as Puffer in the '87 West End production was actually quite inspired. A far better fit than poor Ernie Wise in Rose's part (who was decidedly NOT good).
I'm actually surprised Rose didn't go overseas to his native England to bolster things. I wonder if it had to do with what Ed Dixon implied in his play 'Georgie'...that there was a darker reason why Rose never returned to England after the '60s? The London production (which survives as a soundboard recording) also wound up having to fly Patti Cohenour over at the 11th hour when their Rosa Bud bowed out. Lots of drama!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/04/2021|
A typically lackluster performance by a British cast.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/04/2021|
Loretta Swit was nice to me when I met her at a reception and even told me to call her "Loretta" when I had been calling her "Ms. Swit". She even gave me updates of how folks from M*A*S*H were that she kept in touch with later on during out conversation. I didn't off talking about that show per se, but about my having liked her voice when she sang a few times. There's one episode where she sang "C'est Magnifique" from "Can-Can" where she sounded excellent indeed. Btw, that's actually a pretty darn nice Hirschfeld of her.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/04/2021|
I didn't "start" off talking
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/04/2021|
Interesting blind reveal at CDAN yesterday:
Monday, May 03, 2021 Blind Items Revealed #5 - Mr. X
April 16, 2021
I’ve always heard rumors about the authenticity of its existence, but it does indeed exist. It is s professionally shot color film of the star making Broadway musical (and eventually film) that would win its star, a permanent A++ list singer/actress/icon, several big awards. In order to prepare for the show’s West End opening after the star left the Broadway show to go overseas, the play was filmed in its entirety so sets, costumes and choreography could be duplicated. After the film was seen by the London producers it found its way into the hand of the show’s star who promptly shove it into a storage locker never to be seen again... that is until recently. While she was preparing for an auction of her personal memorabilia in the mid 2000s she found the film in that storage locker and had it screened. It was in bad shape and she personally paid to have it restored. Whether or not the general public will ever see it remains up for grabs.
Barbra Streisand/Funny Girl
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/04/2021|
Was Loretta blind? What the hell was wrong with that caricature? It's pretty damn flattering.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/04/2021|
Bet they’re sorry now they couldn’t nominate ICP against white bread Aaron T
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/04/2021|
"Even the costume designer loathed her (Loretta Swit)....."
Are you kidding, r21? Costume designers are usually the first victims and the deepest hurt by divas out of control.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/04/2021|
Perhaps that very flattering caricature of Loretta was after Mr. Hirschfeld altered it?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/04/2021|
She learned everything she knows from Helen Lawson, r26.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/04/2021|
Didn't Terry Lester (the original Jack Abbott on Y&R) play Jasper on that George Rose/Jean Stapleton tour of DROOD?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/04/2021|
From what I understand, George Rose was quite the authority on little pricks.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/04/2021|
[quote]All the West Germanic languages (American English, German, Dutch) spell it "theater." For whatever reason, British English opted to adopt the French spelling "théâtre," which is odd because they usually hate the French.
So why do they use "aubergine" and "courgette" if they hate the French?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/04/2021|
WE SEE YOU EXTREMELY WHITE FOREVER PLAID!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/04/2021|
Mark Jacoby according to Wikipedia, r37
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/04/2021|
[quote] From what I understand, George Rose was quite the authority on little pricks.
Not in the Dominican Republic, r38
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/04/2021|
Evidently, Terry Lester did it in Pasadena. Was this part of the tour?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/04/2021|
So who was the star of Funny Girl in that filmed version, since Babs had left? Mimi Hines? Or did Lainie Kazan shank a bitch and fight her way onto the stage to screech- A FEATHERED HAT FOR THE BABY!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/04/2021|
I'd take that blind with a grain of salt but there is a complete South Pacific with Mary Martin, so sometimes things do happen. Like four minutes of silent but clear color footage from The Library of Congress of Ethel in the original AGYG. I had no idea LOC has a youtube channel now. Check the link to their page at the Annie link. Not a lot there but there's also Ethel in Anything Goes and Ethel, Bob Hope and Durante in Red, Hot and Blue. Short clips but fabulous.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/04/2021|
R44 -- Terry Lester did indeed play Jasper in the California Music Theatre production (out in Pasadena), which starred Rose. But this was separate from the '88 tour. Although they did use Bob Shaw's scenery, which (fun fact!) you could rent up until the mid 2000s.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/04/2021|
With Merman, r46, you got...Merman.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/04/2021|
OK, I'll Oh dear myself. That's obviously a private user's page called The Library of Johngress. But check it out.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/04/2021|
"Theatre" is the art form, "theater" is the building.
There hasn't been a second draft written in musical theatre since the aughts.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/04/2021|
r5 The St. James is a Jujamcyn house, silly.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/04/2021|
Not sure I could get all excited about watching Mimi Hines in Funny Girl. And yes, I know she was supposed to be good.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/05/2021|
Congress or not - thanks for the link, R46! What extraordinary footage. I've always thought Merman was an acquired taste, but even in just a tiny snippet of film one can see that she was absolutely a creature of the stage.
The Anything Goes clip is also remarkable. And I'm unsure if it's the frame-rate or whatever, but it all just looks so effortlessly artful and joyous. No wonder I find the cynical irony and calculated corporatism of most contemporary musical comedies to be intolerable.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/05/2021|
r44 that site is impressive. Is it accurate?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/05/2021|
Thanks for the link R46. I wonder who the hunky dancer was at 0:48.
Interesting curtain call in that Merman and Middleton remain so far upstage. Every show I've ever seen, the star walks all the way down to the edge of the orchestra pit to take their bows (or in the case of DOLLY, onto the passerelle.)
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/05/2021|
[quote] that site is impressive. Is it accurate?
not the poster who put up the link, but that site is accurate but incomplete. In other words the cast lists are accurate but they are far from complete in many cases.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/05/2021|
I interpreted the blind item to mean that the star, presumably Streisand, had her own performance filmed so that everything could be duplicated for the London production she was about to do. The producers of Funny Girl would have also had an investment in the film capture to ensure that the London production be what was seen on Broadway.
I can't imagine Streisand would bother with a film of Mimi Hines or anyone else playing Fanny. Lainie Kazan, btw, was long gone from understudying Fanny by the time Streisand left Funny Girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/05/2021|
Long excerpts of Streisand in Funny Girl at the Winter Garden have for a long time been on youtube. Maybe it was taken down? I'm surprised everyone on DL doesn't know this. By the way much of it is murky and Streisand races through the performances like she left dinner cooking in the oven at home.
Goldman in his book The Season said that at the end of the run she was literally doing Fanny Brice as played by Jerry Lewis.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/05/2021|
When I was a teenager I saw Streisand in Funny Girl in her second year in the show (opposite handsome Johnny Desmond). I was a huge fan of her early recordings but was disappointed to see her walk through most of Act I (even before I understood what "walking through" a show meant) until she sang "People" and then she was fabulous for the rest of the evening.
I would imagine it was very hard for her to have the patience to get through a 2 year run on Broadway and a commitment to bring the show to London and then make a film of Funny Girl when she had the confidence to know the possibilities of the career before her.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/05/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/05/2021|
love her voice r63. Given her other credits, one can assume Hines was a pretty decent comedic actress. She's older than Streisand and maybe she couldn't make a transition to films or television for whatever reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/05/2021|
It was her chipmunk looks, r64. She and Phil got noticeable TV appearances on the variety shows back in the day, but they weren't exactly Steve & Eydie. She would have made a great Dolly.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/05/2021|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1955, "Damn Yankees" opened at the 46th Street Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/05/2021|
R53, your high school drama teacher was wrong when she told you that one was the art form and the other the building.
Or if she told you one was the building for live performance and the other for film.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/05/2021|
My first job was at...
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/05/2021|
R68, you worked at an art form?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/05/2021|
Jane Wyman also had a chipmunk look. Hey, how come no one ever suggest Jane for "Follies"? Very good singing voice in those films she did with Bing Crosby.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/05/2021|
Cuomo: Broadway to reopen on September 14.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/05/2021|
I worked in a...theatre, r70.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/05/2021|
[quote]I would imagine it was very hard for her to have the patience to get through a 2 year run on Broadway
I'm sure you're right, but what a lousy fucking attitude: "I'm bored out of my mind, too bored to give the paying customers a real performance. Because it's not about the audience, IT'S ALL ABOUT ME." Also, apparently, Streisand's boredom and lousy attitude set in VERY early in the run of FUNNY GIRL, so even if she had even been contracted for only a year, or even only six months (which would never have happened in those days), it would have been an issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/05/2021|
To be fair, she was 26
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/05/2021|
Jane didn't have Mimi's overbite, r70. You might accuse her of being mouse-y, but she was hardly chipmunk-y. She actually was on the potential casting list for FOLLIES.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/05/2021|
[quote]Cuomo: Broadway to reopen on September 14.
By the way, that will also be at 100% capacity.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/05/2021|
I've actually worked twice at the Aladdin Theater (shown in r68 and r70). I grew up seeing big movies at this Denver theater (Fiddler, Oliver! Earthquake). Anyway in the early '80s, someone bought it and removed the movie screen to discover an entire onion shaped proscenium arch and a decent sized stage. There were fountains in those towers on the side of the stage and if you flushed a toilet in the dressing rooms, the water in the fountains would dwindle until the water pressure returned to normal. Beautiful theater but closed in late '80s and is now a fucking Walgreens.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/05/2021|
It is tragic that all those gorgeous movie theaters were destroyed to make room for a bunch of shitty chain stores. The modern pharmacy is just a convenience store with some pills behind the counter.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/05/2021|
It's another shitshow day on Broadway. The governor released a statement without telling anyone, and all the shows and The League are scrambling. The DeBlasio v Cuomo mess is making everything a nightmare. Why are the stupid people the only electable ones these days?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/05/2021|
I read that opening night of Funny Girl in New York Streisand gave her greatest performance. The the night after she walked through it and Stark was there. After he immediately ran to her dressing room very angry and was like What the hell happened to last night's performance?! She's very open about detesting doing a Broadway run.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/05/2021|
I wonder if I tore your ticket for EARTHQUAKE, r77. I was wearing a Red Cross disaster services uniform and hardhat. If you saw TOMMY, I was attired in blue jeans and a TOMMY t-shirt.It was built in 1926 and was the first theatre(er) built west of the Mississippi specifically for sound pictures. You can see at r72 what was behind the 70mm screen. There had also been a pipe organ. Back in the day, the ceiling had stars and there was a cloud machine. When did you work there?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/05/2021|
Streisand was lazy even in her 20's, huh?
I do think you have to be a certain type of person to perform on Broadway, night after night, and still try to deliver the same level of performance. It's really tough and I have great respect for anyone who does those 8 shows a week.
Anyone who's ever worked in the theatre knows that performers can only do so much when they have a bad audience and, even with hit shows, you're bound to get a dud of an audience every now and then that just zaps the energy right out of you. That's when your training comes in so that you can dust yourself off and continue doing the show full out as if they were the best audience you've ever had.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/05/2021|
r77 - Oh, and you saw OLIVER! at the Century 21. The Aladdin, hot off Mary Poppins and The Sound of Music were thrilled to get the surefire STAR! and looked askance at Century 21 getting OLIVER!. We all know how 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 turned out.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/05/2021|
Streisand can be wonderful but I don't think many of her colleagues would ever describe her as a "selfless" performer.
And good musical theatre is collaborative and to a degree, selfless, by definition.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/05/2021|
It probably didn't help that the script to Funny Girl isn't exactly one that you can find new layers and nuance in night after night. Not defending her sleepwalking through performances, but there's not much to that script besides the songs. Even Hello, Dolly has more substance.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||05/05/2021|
It has been said that Streisand deliberately got pregnant during the West End run of Funny Girl so she could get out of it. I will say she is pretty fabulous in the soundboard recording of her last show on Broadway. She may "walk through" some scenes but her line delivery is inspired. She was/ is a gifted comedienne.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/05/2021|
Streisand is the kind of star who could a walk through a performance and still have the audience going crazy. I remember meeting a guy who saw Merman in Gypsy and I was like Wow how was she?! and he said 'Tired.'
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/05/2021|
[quote]She would have made a great Dolly.
Mimi Hines did "Dolly" on the road a lot. A friend of mine toured with her.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/05/2021|
Well she did keep Funny Girl running for a while. People at the time did not think only Streisand could do it. Unlike a show like The Producers that few people wanted to see after the stars left. Maybe it was seriously bad producing that killed that show after Broderick and Lane left not being able to get the right cast. Or maybe the show was intrinsically terrible? I didn't see it.
How long did Hines keep FG running after Babs left?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||05/05/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 90||05/05/2021|
r89 - Dec 27, 1965 - Jul 01, 1967
|by Anonymous||reply 91||05/05/2021|
Fanny Standby, Miss Linda Gerard...
|by Anonymous||reply 92||05/05/2021|
So she kept the show open a year and a half after Streisand left. That's pretty good.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||05/05/2021|
She had such a warm voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||05/05/2021|
Nobody answered my question. If Streisand had called Stark's bluff and would only sign for the one film and he put somebody else in the film who could it have possibly been?
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|by Anonymous||reply 96||05/05/2021|
I was approached, but then Gary...well, you know the rest of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||05/05/2021|
new protest just dropped
|by Anonymous||reply 98||05/05/2021|
Producer Sam Speigel was set to sign Albert Finney for Lawrence of Arabia (despite director David Lean's not really wanting him). Then Speigel demanded that Finney sign a seven year personal contract with him to play Lawrence. Finney stunned him by walking away and that's how the barely known Peter O'Toole ended up starring in a huge multi-million dollar blockbuster.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||05/05/2021|
R98 - Jesus Christ. These authoritarian wokesters need to find a new hobby during their unemployment. The industry has been CRIPPLED for 14+ months now and this is the whiney shit they decide to get on their high moral horse for? Yes - Rudin was a toxic, abusive bully. Completely unacceptable. But using that to springboard into a greater crusade over perceived wrongs and historical slights? The same way the March on Broadway loosely tied Rudin's ills in with equal representation for BIPOC performers? Give me a fucking break.
There won't BE any Broadway to return to if the community doesn't get behind it in a productive, positive way. And yes, this includes the 98% of the Actors Equity membership that is unemployed at any given time. Vilifying 'The Music Man', its stars or creatives is completely misguided. (But then the woke see them as heretics so they need punishing!)
People don't respond well to demands and ultimatums -- even well-intentioned people who would otherwise be an ally. The tone needs to shift. Put aside the juvenile tribalism and divisive identity politics and start being CREATIVE again. Collaborate with one another. Have real conversations. And realize that the struggle to be employed in the theatre, period, is really fucking difficult for EVERYONE. Start there and you might realize you have more in common with your (perceived) enemy than you think.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||05/05/2021|
r100 you're a hero. How can we get you in touch with THEM.
—[italic]Another[/italic] actual progressive tired of this shit
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/05/2021|
R95: The studio wanted Shirley MacLaine.
During the NY run, Streisand instituted three versions of the show--1. complete, 2. losing one singing bit, and 3. dropping a scene and Who Are You Now? She would announce which version bthey were to do when she arrived for the performance.
One night, the producer, Ray Stark, dropped in when they were doing version 3, which loses a significant portion of Act Two. He ran backstage and told Streisand if she did it once more he'd go with MacLaine for the film.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||05/05/2021|
Thanks for posting that great Annie Get Your Gun clip R46. Fascinating to see how brief the bows are, unlike today where performers milk the audience for as much applause as possible. And also interesting to see that director Josh Logan managed to include some of his typical beefcake in the show with that almost naked Indian.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||05/05/2021|
Maybe Phyllis Newman with a big star-build as a f-you to Streisand.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||05/05/2021|
Looks like they took down that R98 tweet. Good. Probably someone who can't get a job in Non-Equity.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||05/05/2021|
[quote] And also interesting to see that director Josh Logan managed to include some of his typical beefcake in the show with that almost naked Indian.
Speaking of Josh Logan, thanks to another poster's suggestion, I am reading his book MOVIE STARS, REAL PEOPLE AND ME where he talks about a party he and his wife Nedda threw for Princess Margaret and her husband The Earl of Snowdon during their1965 visit to the US.
Among the people invited for dinner were Rosalind Russell and Frederick Brisson, but what surprised me was that he had invited Ethel Merman to entertain, which she did. After Merman, people like Benny Goodman, Alan Jay Lerner, Sammy Davis Jr., Tommy Steele, and....Rosalind Russell got up to entertain as well.
So there was Merman, not only performing in front of 'The Lizard of Roz', but sitting there while Roz herself performed (or maybe she hit the buffet instead). I knew they had once been friendly, sharing a fire escape while Roz was in AUNTIE MAME at the Broadhurst and Merman was in HAPPY HUNTING next door at the Majestic, but after the movie version of GYPSY came out, I'd never before read a report of them being in the same room together, let alone entertaining in front of each other.
BTW, Mr. and Mrs. Elliott Gould were also in attendance, although Logan made a point of saying Miss Streisand refused his invitation to perform (of which the princess what presumably unaware)
A contemporaneous report in the next day's Times confirmed the attendees. Logan frankly admits it was the most marvelous party he and Nedda ever gave.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||05/05/2021|
Please tell me Roz performed Rose's Turn with several downshifting key changes.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||05/05/2021|
The tweet is still up, R105
|by Anonymous||reply 108||05/05/2021|
You can just listen for yourself, R107. The first half of the song is all her. Lisa Kirk's dubbing doesn't show up until "I had a dream"
I'm not a musical key expert, but it does sound like it's been significantly lowered from the original Merman key. That said, pretty much every actress who's ever played the role has had keys changed for certain songs. Lansbury had different keys for many of the songs, Tyne Daly had "matinee keys" for the days her voice was tired, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||05/05/2021|
[quote] Please tell me Roz performed Rose's Turn with several downshifting key changes.
Now, wouldn't THAT have been something?
According to Logan neither woman sang a number from GYPSY (or if they did, he diplomatically didn't mention it). Roz sang a number from WONDERFUL TOWN and Merman sang 'I Got Rhythm' and "There's No Business Like Show Business".
It took me quite awhile to digest the fact that they had over 100 people in their River House apartment for a party. My partner and I had 15 people over and our apartment felt like a subway car at rush hour
|by Anonymous||reply 110||05/05/2021|
The mix of voices in Rose's Turn on the actual Gypsy film soundtrack is different from what's heard on the commercially released soundtrack album.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||05/05/2021|
I've read that Merman started having vocal issues during Gypsy's run and that at some point some keys were lowered for her. So what you hear on the OBCR might not be what audiences heard live later on.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||05/05/2021|
I believe it's 100% Lisa Kirk on the Gypsy soundtrack album. Guess it made for a more pleasant listening experience.
Someone told me Bernadette Peters was the closest to singing the score in the original keys. Pretty much everyone else has had them toyed with.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||05/05/2021|
R74 Being "26" isn't a valid excuse for shitty and lazy workplace behavior.
Streisand is and always has been a very selfish woman. Talented, with a gift, but she's not nearly as brilliant as she think she is.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||05/05/2021|
It isn't 100% Lisa, r113.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||05/05/2021|
Woke assholes like that shit eating jerk on the Disney thread. Yeah put all these people out of work because of your extremist sjw attitude. Because your twisted ideology is so much more important than anything else in the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||05/05/2021|
[quote]Maybe Phyllis Newman with a big star-build as a f-you to Streisand.
"And Phyllis Newman will have to do as Fanny Brice."
|by Anonymous||reply 117||05/05/2021|
And who did Stark plan on using to dub MacLaine? Lisa Kirk?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||05/05/2021|
"And realize that the struggle to be employed in the theatre, period, is really fucking difficult for EVERYONE."
EXACTLY. For anyone to point fingers at others in the field and denigrate them is disgusting beyond belief. No one knows what it took for ANY person, whatever their color, gender, race or creed, to make gains in their career, or what sacrifices they had to make, or losses they endured in order to pursue their passion. Grow the f*** up!
|by Anonymous||reply 119||05/05/2021|
We Hear You White Lisa Kirk!
|by Anonymous||reply 120||05/05/2021|
Aw fuck off, r120, I'm sitting on top of the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||05/05/2021|
r113, Rose's Turn is all Lisa on the soundtrack apparently....
|by Anonymous||reply 122||05/05/2021|
No, it isn't. Both the album and the film use a mix of the two voices but the mix isn't the same on the two.
There are three sets of vocal tracks for the film of Gypsy.
1. Ruzsell's first set which was so atrocious it was unusable. Those tracks are the one's Merman got ahold of and used to play for the amusement of her party guests.
2. Russell's second set, made six months later, after she been vocally coached and rehearsed much more. A few parts of it are passable.
3. Kirk's set, which is really good.
Both the film and the soundtrack used a mix of the voices from Russell's second set and Kirk's set. But the mixes are different on the two although each is mainly Kirk.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||05/05/2021|
[quote]And who did Stark plan on using to dub MacLaine? Lisa Kirk?
Lainie Kazan, as an extra F-you to Streisand.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/05/2021|
Lainie was so...so...
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/05/2021|
[quote]Lainie was so...so...
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/05/2021|
Dixie Carter, Madeline Kahn and Lily Tomlin sing of CAMP in Below the Belt (audio only, at link).
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/05/2021|
Yes, Boycott Broadway. So smart right now...For such clear reasons too...
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/05/2021|
That's just it R119 -- the woke have oversimplified a brutally rigorous, insanely competitive field and turned into juvenile, petulant blame game. Wherein some insidious, underlying 'white supremacy' explains all career disappointments and barriers to entry. The reality is that Broadway has never been more equitable or more inclusive. Ever. And it stands to become even more so! In fact, there are entire casting mandates on Broadway (but also at the TV/Film level) that advocate for greater BIPOC and LGBTQ representation. Progress, right? Accountability, right?
But because this "progress" doesn't explain why some actors and creatives STILL can't get ahead, the woke (ie. those who define their identities out of eternal victimhood) have turned it into this whole tribalist, "us vs. them" narrative. Wherein "Whiteness" is some original sin that must be atoned for (as is evidenced by these Twitter morons demanding hard working white actors step down) They're literally fighting racism with MORE racism. (See Robin DiAngelo's execrable book for this on full display)
Make no mistake: wokeness does NOT equal progressive or rational thought. It's illiberal and based in moral absolutism. Any true progressive should reject its religiosity, yet things are so polarized, that any such criticism of their (authoritarian/marxist/religious) rhetoric make you a racist right winger. It's ridiculous. It needs to be stomped out by ACTUAL progressive democrats and moderates. It's bad for the soul, it's bad for art and it's bad for society.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||05/05/2021|
OMG, r127, thank you for that. I had no idea that had been recorded.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||05/05/2021|
What are you protesting against, kids?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||05/05/2021|
[quote]It needs to be stomped out by ACTUAL progressive democrats and moderates. It's bad for the soul, it's bad for art and it's bad for society.
Everything you said, 100% on target and deserves a wider audience than it will get here.
Well said r129
|by Anonymous||reply 132||05/05/2021|
Laura Benanti has jumped on the protest train. None of them actually spell out how exactly Broadway isn't safe for the people they claim are being victimised.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||05/05/2021|
Benanti is just mad at Hugh and Rudin for not casting her as Marian.
Streisand was actually a mere 22 when Funny Girl opened. That's very young for the kind of overnight stardom she was experiencing.
Is that Anthony "Scooter" Teague (the chorus boy on our extreme left) in the clip of Lisa Kirk at r121?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||05/05/2021|
R31 Many years back, I was given these "Funny Girl" videos, in the form of a can of 16mm film, from Larry Fuller, a dancer in the original 1964 production who was also the dance captain. I had them transferred to VHS and I dubbed them from the sound-system audio. Larry Fuller told me that they were indeed shot for London, to facilitate his recreation in the West End of Carol Haney's Broadway choreography. In the London "Funny Girl" program, the title page gives the credits as follows: "Musical Numbers Created by Carol Haney" / "Choreographed by Larry Fuller."
Whether or not the film of the full show exists --the one mentioned in the blind item you posted and said to be in Barbra's possession-- I cannot say.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||05/05/2021|
I'm reminded of why I wish Dixie Carter did more theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||05/05/2021|
Dixie Carter sings of birth control in the Upstairs at the Downstairs revue Below the Belt.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||05/05/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 138||05/05/2021|
That's a very plausible explanation of how rumors of a full color film version could have been started, r135.
For decades I heard rumors that when Julie Andrews left My Fair Lady for the London production she had been filmed running through her entire part with a stage manager feeding her lines. It would have something like a study guide for her replacements to learn the staging, pacing, etc. I heard that it had been lost years ago. I talked to many collectors, people in the business and even asked at BWW and lots of people were familiar with the story but nobody had ever seen it and said that if it ever existed, it must completely lost.
A few days ago, when I found the AGYG footage I posted above, I ran across this scripted and rehearsed 14 minute recreation of early MFL rehearsals starring Andrews and Harrison. It was broadcast on TV in 1960. It made me wonder if this is how rumors of Andrews rehearsal footage could have been started. It's very interesting and fun, BTW.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||05/05/2021|
"The reality is that Broadway has never been more equitable or more inclusive. Ever."
The reality is that Broadway--among all populist entertainments- has ALWAYS been more equitable and ALWAYS been more inclusive. ALWAYS.
A slight adjustment defines the truth a little sharper.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||05/05/2021|
We see you white Rex Harrison
|by Anonymous||reply 141||05/05/2021|
Kate Hepburn puts the kibosh on A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC....
|by Anonymous||reply 142||05/05/2021|
R122, you might have bothered to read the notes for the video you posted. If you had bothered, you would have read that this clip substitutes Lisa Kirk's vocal for Roz's in the first half of the number. As others have pointed out, the film itself features Roz's vocal for the first half of the number, Kirk's for the second, whereas on the soundtrack album, Kirk performs the whole number. P.S. The pitch is off -- too high-- in the clip at R122.
[quote]For decades I heard rumors that when Julie Andrews left My Fair Lady for the London production she had been filmed running through her entire part with a stage manager feeding her lines. It would have something like a study guide for her replacements to learn the staging, pacing, etc. I heard that it had been lost years ago. I talked to many collectors, people in the business and even asked at BWW and lots of people were familiar with the story but nobody had ever seen it and said that if it ever existed, it must completely lost.
You seem a little confused. If Andrews had made a film of her performance in the Broadway show when she was about to leave it for the London production, why at that point would a stage manager have been feeding her lines? Also, when you say you "even asked at BWW" about this, do you mean the Broadway World website? If that's what you mean, why in God's name did you think that any of the children associated with that site would know anything about a film of MY FAIR LADY with Julie Andrews?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||05/05/2021|
R139 Thanks for that Julie-MFL movie rumor; had not heard that one before.
One similar story that I did hear decades ago: A complete film of Carol Burnett in "Fade Out-Fade In" exists (probably in black and white). This film was made to document the physical challenges involved in Burnett's role in the 1964-'65 musical. It was to be used in a potential lawsuit involving Burnett's absences from the show owing to a neck injury while she was at the same time able to appear on the TV series "The Entertainers," produced by her husband, Joe Hamilton.
"Fade Out-Fade In" was forced to close because of Burnett's continued absences. Burnett was apparently threatened with a lawsuit and forced to return and re-open the show, which closed soon after.
Have no idea if the alleged "Fade Out" film exists.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||05/05/2021|
I asked at BWW at least 10 or 15 years ago, when there were still a few adults around there.
By feeding her lines, I meant reading the other characters' dialog so she could react.
Yes, I know Wicked Fan says the soundtrack was all Kirk. So does Wikipedia. But I bought and still have the album when it was first released. It's so obvious when the voices switch in the first half it's jarring. I suspect that's why in the film the voices only switch once.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||05/05/2021|
R135 Was the entire show recorded or just the dance numbers?
Talking about recordings that may or may not exist. It's claimed that the Mendes/ Donmar production of Assassins was recorded and aired on British TV like Mendes' Cabaret and Company. However, I have yet to find any evidence of it's existence. My theory is that it has been confused with a recording of a 1993 production in Manchester, England. Anyone know if it really was aired on TV?
|by Anonymous||reply 146||05/05/2021|
I’m sure many of you know since 1970 the Lincoln Center Library for the Preforming Arts has recorded theatrical productions for archival purposes and made them available in a public library setting. The 50th anniversary belated celebratory exhibit should be opening soon highlighting some of their best materials.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||05/05/2021|
[quote] Talking about recordings that may or may not exist. It's claimed that the Mendes/ Donmar production of Assassins was recorded and aired on British TV like Mendes' Cabaret and Company. However, I have yet to find any evidence of it's existence. My theory is that it has been confused with a recording of a 1993 production in Manchester, England. Anyone know if it really was aired on TV?
There's no evidence that the Donmar "Assassins" was recorded for broadcast, and it certainly never aired on UK TV.
Another musical theater "urban legend": A London cast recording of "Mame" starring Ginger Rogers was made but never released. Ginger's "Mame" was NOT recorded, at least not commercially.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||05/05/2021|
By any chance is the person who mentioned having gotten boots of Sweeney and Evita from the master (the person who recorded them) on the "Theatre Gossip #410: More Sex, Please, We're American" thread lurking on this new one? I'd love to talk to them about those recordings... if you're here please let me know!
|by Anonymous||reply 149||05/05/2021|
"The reality is that Broadway--among all populist entertainments- has ALWAYS been more equitable and ALWAYS been more inclusive. ALWAYS."
R140 -- a perfect addendum. Historically, Broadway HAS been the refuge for marginalized groups. A unifying, safe haven for creative types to collaborate regardless of background. Gay or straight, Black or White, Male or Female - perceived divisions and differences were erased in the name of creating art. One's talent superseded their intersectionality. And in these increasingly inclusive times, I'd like to think that's never been more true!
But here's another issue with the woke agenda: WHO exactly is this "Broadway" they're directing their crusade towards? "Broadway" is nondescript. It changes show to show, season to season, creative to creative. And just the same way that Whiteness or Blackness can't be any one thing (despite what the woke insist) Broadway isn't any one thing. There are tyrants, there are saints. There are those who will champion and seek out new talent, and those who will rest on what's tried and true. It's many people, with MANY agendas, all just trying to make it work.
It's what makes tackling these complex issues of opportunity and representation so fucking difficult. You have that unavoidable human element that informs the decision making. Because there are a hundred more pressing aspects BEYOND race and sexuality that factor into hiring an individual. Attitude? Chemistry? Sex appeal? Box office appeal? How do you weigh these many factors remotely fairly? Oh right, you can't. And that's not even factoring in the "luck factor" needed to succeed (it's funny that they never mention THAT as an all-pervasive, often crushing, variable in all this...)
But the woke won't have these kind of conversations. They paint their arguments in broad, lazy strokes, when what's actually needed is the pointed precision of Georges Seurat.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||05/06/2021|
And a very wise hat it is, r150.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||05/06/2021|
[quote] Dixie Carter sings of birth control in the Upstairs at the Downstairs revue Below the Belt.
After having played Sam’s mother on [italic]Diff’rent Strokes[/italic], who can blame her?
|by Anonymous||reply 152||05/06/2021|
Let's get serious. If Mimi Hines walked through many of her FG performances, who would have known? Or cared?
|by Anonymous||reply 153||05/06/2021|
I absolutely refuse to get serious about Mimi Hines.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||05/06/2021|
You would absolutely rather get serious about Duncan Hines.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||05/06/2021|
I'd get serious with Hines, Hines and Dad.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||05/06/2021|
And this from an article about a Secret Garden revival, whose workshop is getting the streaming treatment. This quote is about the new production-- [quote] The revival, Carlyle said, is a “complete reimagining.” It will feature pared-back sets, more intimate orchestrations and different scenic design. "pared-back" "more intimate" "different scenic design" In other words, cheaper. Always cheaper. Give the audience less, get acclaim for "raw power." And charge more.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||05/06/2021|
Is JCM going to part of the cast, maybe as the crazy uncle, or was there a crazy aunt? Maybe Hedwig can just wander through singing existential German songs or such?
|by Anonymous||reply 158||05/06/2021|
What exactly did Secret Garden have going for it other than its lushness? The story was so poorly adapted and the songs, minus all the swoopy strings, aren't really all that much.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||05/06/2021|
I saw the original SECRET GARDEN and vaguely recall liking Daisy Eagan, JCM. I think I saw Howard McGillen in Mandy P's role (thank god). I must have seen Rebecca Luker but didn't know her at the time.
Other than that, I have no memory of the show whatsoever. None. I couldn't identify one of the songs if I tripped over it.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||05/06/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 161||05/06/2021|
Surely you remember Plant You Now, Dig You Later, r160!
|by Anonymous||reply 162||05/06/2021|
That comes from The Secret Garden? That makes sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||05/06/2021|
I thought it wonderful that when Secret Garden was on Broadway, thousands of families with little girls in bright dresses poured in to see a new musical about death.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||05/06/2021|
It replaced Garden of Joy when they were in New Haven, r163.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||05/06/2021|
Here is Daisy Egan’s Tony win presented by, of all people, Audrey Hepburn!
Allison Fraser doesn’t seem happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||05/06/2021|
Perhaps they can update Secret Garden changing cholera to covid and setting it in a woke east village
|by Anonymous||reply 167||05/06/2021|
Alison Fraser shouldn't have been happy. The kid didn't deserve it...
|by Anonymous||reply 168||05/06/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 169||05/06/2021|
I thought Daisy was terrific (but it was 30 years ago). Why was she "Featured" and not "Best Lead Actress"? Her age?
|by Anonymous||reply 170||05/06/2021|
They need to change "Wick" to "Woke".
When a show is Woke/There’s something smug about it...
|by Anonymous||reply 171||05/06/2021|
WE SEE YOU ON NATIONAL TELEVISION DEJECTED WHITE ALISON FRASER
|by Anonymous||reply 172||05/06/2021|
I assume they knew there was no way to beat Lea, so they put her in featured, r170.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||05/06/2021|
Why do I suddenly have permission denied for posting here?
|by Anonymous||reply 174||05/06/2021|
[quote] "Fade Out-Fade In" was forced to close because of Burnett's continued absences. Burnett was apparently threatened with a lawsuit and forced to return and re-open the show, which closed soon after.
Based on most reports, the show itself was a turkey
|by Anonymous||reply 175||05/06/2021|
I think I've solved the Roz Russell/Lisa Kirk problem. It seems there were at least two different versions of the soundtrack album issues. One has Kirk singing all of "Rose's Turn," the other has Roz singing (or whatever) the first half, up through "they take bows and you're battin' zero." Fortunately, both are on YouTube. Here's a link to the all-Kirk version, I will link to the half-Roz version in a subsequent post.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||05/06/2021|
R135, did the film include Babs' performance or was it a different lead?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||05/06/2021|
Okay, and here's the half-Roz version of "Rose's Turn." Sorry, for some reason, I initially had trouble posting these links.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||05/06/2021|
Here's Sondheim with Bernie around the time of INTO THE WOODS.
Steve, babe.... have you been working out?
He actually looks almost.... hot here, kinda.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||05/06/2021|
.... but then he brings the crazy....
|by Anonymous||reply 180||05/06/2021|
why crazy, r160.
and he started working out post- heart attack and kept it up for several years. easy to see why....
|by Anonymous||reply 181||05/06/2021|
He looks batshit insane at R180.
Otherwise, not too bad at age 57.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||05/06/2021|
Wasn’t there a rumor that he and Lapine wrote ITW while doing fistfuls of 'shrooms?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||05/06/2021|
There was definitely a rumor that he and Lapine dropped acid at the Chicago Art Institute while looking at Sunday on the Island of the Grand Jatte in order to get the painting to speak to them while writing Sunday in the Park with George
|by Anonymous||reply 184||05/06/2021|
If Audrey Hepburn gave me an award and a kiss on the head, I could die happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||05/06/2021|
Audrey was an even hotter piece of ass than you can imagine, R185.
Breakfast at Tiffany's, indeed. Mmmmm.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||05/06/2021|
Sondheim in the 80's up to the mid 90's really was rather sexy. There's that great video where he's in London teaching actors his work and he has this devilish smile when one of them does something he really loves and it's infectious. You can see how much he must really love actors. Well, the ones that get it right. He has such a calming presence. Does he ever really blow up and start screaming at anyone? I've only ever heard of him being patient and level headed.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||05/06/2021|
yes r185 isn't that kiss on the head one of the loveliest things you've ever seen? Audrey Fucking Hepburn.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||05/06/2021|
[quote] Here is Daisy Egan’s Tony win presented by, of all people, Audrey Hepburn! Allison Fraser doesn’t seem happy.
Alison was heard to remark later that evening (and I'm not making this up): "I lost to someone who doesn't menstruate." I remember meeting her many years later, expecting her to be a massive cunt because of this, but she was lovely and others who have worked with her have had nothing but nice things to say, so I'll chalk it up to a one time sour grapes.
Daisy was fucking amazing in that show. No, it wasn't a featured role, but the Tonys have always had those crazy billing qualifiers that determine who gets placed where, so don't blame the show. She well deserved that award.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||05/06/2021|
Daisy’s mother was ill at the time and she and Fraser became very close. If Fraser later made a joke about losing I wouldn’t read too much into it.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||05/06/2021|
You can like someone and still be pissy about losing a Tony to their 10 yr old daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||05/06/2021|
Have to wonder why Audrey wasn't given one of the bigger categories to announce. Who gave out best play, Queen Elizabeth?
|by Anonymous||reply 192||05/06/2021|
[quote]Alison was heard to remark later that evening (and I'm not making this up): "I lost to someone who doesn't menstruate."
Considering the massive shift in gender identity in recent years, this will be happening a lot more often.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||05/06/2021|
The Harry Potter producers announced they were looking at "restructuring" the show. Is it going to be just one show from on?
|by Anonymous||reply 194||05/06/2021|
How to say both of those versions of “Rose’s Turn”suck. I would love to hear the first version done by Russell that was so bad that Merman used to play it at parties to make fun of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||05/06/2021|
^Have to say…
|by Anonymous||reply 196||05/06/2021|
Harry Potter is being re-written into one show. Americans and the rest of the world can't deal with the two part thing. But by the time they have it ready, I think Harry Potter will feel very early 2000s. Not sure the market is still there. They're not expanding the Florida theme park...
|by Anonymous||reply 197||05/06/2021|
I'm surprised Eden, Jaime, et al aren't boycotting the Harry Potter play because JK Rowling is a TERF.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||05/06/2021|
The Melbourne production of harry Potter reopened in February, the full production.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||05/06/2021|
[quote]Daisy’s mother was ill at the time and she and Fraser became very close. If Fraser later made a joke about losing I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Yeah, maybe the remark about Daisy's Tony win was just a joke, and not a mean-spirited one, along the lines of Merman's legendary comment when Mary Martin in THE SOUND OF MUSIC won over Merman in GYPSY: "You can't buck a nun!"
|by Anonymous||reply 200||05/06/2021|
Look at Alison's face when Daisy mentions her. Tell me it was good natured.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||05/06/2021|
R201, what I'll tell you is to piss off and bring your nasty, troublemaking ways with you. Even if Alison DID have a bad reaction to Daisy winning, and I'm SURE she didn't, it's highly unlikely that she would have made a face to express her displeasure, as she would surely have known it was likely that the cameras might cut to her when Daisy mentioned her. You lame-brain.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||05/06/2021|
[quote]They're not expanding the Florida theme park...
They actually are, so I (and Comcast) think your theory about the end of Harry Potter is premature.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||05/06/2021|
Wish I had seen dreamy Jonathan Bailey in Last 5 Years in London. Did anyone here see him? Was he wearing briefs in this scene?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||05/06/2021|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 2008, "Glory Days" opened and closed at the Circle in the Square Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||05/06/2021|
An article in the NYT about the reopening contains the line, talking about the list of things productions will have to deal with, "Some performers have gained weight". And yep, the actors are bitching and whining about the NYT being so "rude" for this line, and demanding that producers accept that their bodies will be different from before. So seems a bunch of them are planning on doing zero prep work to return to work.
I really wonder how these thin-skinned idiots cope with the countless bad reviews they undoubtedly get.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||05/06/2021|
[Quote] Harry Potter is being re-written into one show. Americans and the rest of the world can't deal with the two part thing
The two part thing was a money grab.
No way that needed to be two parts . So much extraneous material should be cut
|by Anonymous||reply 207||05/06/2021|
I know everyone adores Sunday in the Park, but I spent most of the time staring at my navel
|by Anonymous||reply 208||05/06/2021|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: 2021, Some lunatic TQ at R202 puts her pinky up and hisses her boundaries over Alison Fraser.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||05/06/2021|
Breaking news via Baz Bamigboye:
Eddie Redmayne will play the Emcee and Jessie Buckley will play Sally Bowles in Cabaret in London starting in November. Well, Eddie does look like Howdy Doody so it might work.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||05/06/2021|
I'd fly to London to see Eddie in CABARET, especially if Jake and Annaleigh are doing SUNDAY.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||05/06/2021|
Jake and Annaleugh aren’t doing SUNDAY until next year at the earliest due to Jake’s film commitments being postponed because of Covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||05/06/2021|
Eddie Redmayne doesn't have enough charisma or presence to play Cliff, let alone the Emcee. And Jessie Buckley is odd casting (though she has a good voice).
|by Anonymous||reply 213||05/06/2021|
Really, is anyone clamoring for another Cabaret or another Sunday?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||05/06/2021|
Annaleigh Ashford is a regular on a network sitcom, plus she's playing Paula Jones in the latest "American Crime Story," so I don't think she's going to have a lot of free time.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||05/06/2021|
Well, if CABARET opens in November, it could easily run until next year.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||05/06/2021|
Her sitcom hasn't been renewed yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||05/06/2021|
R207, agreed. It was a tremendous mistake, and I don't think it took them very long to realize that.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||05/06/2021|
r217 It hasn't been cancelled either, and I'm sure she has a contract.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||05/06/2021|
R209=the sort of hissing, bitchy queen who projects her bitchiness onto others. This is why they hate us.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||05/06/2021|
No, R220, it's why we hate you.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||05/06/2021|
Poor Dame Judi is apparently blind as a bat so her playing Frau Schneider would appear to be a remote possibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||05/06/2021|
Maybe she should play the Emcee. She'd still be more charismatic than Eddie Redmayne.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||05/06/2021|
How is there no recording out there of the Natasha Richardson - Vanessa Redgrave LNM benefit? Did anyone here see it? It’s hard to imagine Redgrave in that part since she’s not grand and has no sense of humor.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||05/06/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 225||05/06/2021|
ALNM Concert in full
|by Anonymous||reply 226||05/06/2021|
Barbra on Dinah...
|by Anonymous||reply 227||05/06/2021|
Unalloyed joy, that Barbra. I remember at the time I was totally crushing on Georgia Brown after seeing her in OLIVER! By this time, my passion had turned to Barbra, but seeing them together was special.
And it was sponsored by S&H Green Stamps! Who remembers them?
|by Anonymous||reply 228||05/06/2021|
I suspect the difficulty with condensing Harry Potter into one play isn’t making cuts to the story, it’s all the set up and tear down and technical transitions. A lot of the stuff that feels like dramatic filler is probably there to cover the time it takes to get the next illusion safely in place. Plus, I imagine the the hour before each part is a flurry of activity, tearing down the old show and setting up the next. That show is about as big a technical challenge as anything ever put on Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||05/06/2021|
[quote]And it was sponsored by S&H Green Stamps! Who remembers them?
As a child, I was given the task of adding the new Green Stamps to the booklets after each week's shopping expedition. For some reason, I thought this was grand fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||05/06/2021|
me too r230 but we had Plaid Stamps instead of S&H
|by Anonymous||reply 231||05/06/2021|
r230 If your mother only knew what you'd be doing with your tongue when you grew up ...
|by Anonymous||reply 232||05/06/2021|
[quote]I suspect the difficulty with condensing Harry Potter into one play isn’t making cuts to the story, it’s all the set up and tear down and technical transitions. A lot of the stuff that feels like dramatic filler is probably there to cover the time it takes to get the next illusion safely in place. Plus, I imagine the the hour before each part is a flurry of activity, tearing down the old show and setting up the next. That show is about as big a technical challenge as anything ever put on Broadway.
EIther I wasn't paying close attention, or you weren't, because it seemed to me that almost all of the illusions involved projections and other methods non-physical methods, and that the actual constructed set pieces in the show were quite few. In that way, I think it might be relatively easy to condense the two parts of the play into one.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||05/06/2021|
[quote]R230 If your mother only knew what you'd be doing with your tongue when you grew up ...
Another happy childhood memory destroyed by feelings of guilt.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||05/06/2021|
I'd be curious to see numbers on attendance/sales for Harry Potter properties. I have suspicions that the angry "woke" SJWs really haven't made that huge of an impact on a hugely beloved global franchise enjoyed by millions of people who don't really care about J.K. Rowling not kowtowing to the Transgender Agenda.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||05/06/2021|
Do we really need a WAITRESS revival?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||05/06/2021|
Well, considering the number of performers who probably acquired actual waitress experience during the shutdown ...
|by Anonymous||reply 237||05/06/2021|
Patrick O'Connell, the inventor of the red ribbon and founder of Visual AIDS, has died of AIDS related complications. He was the person who got the ribbons introduced at the Tony Awards in 1991. I can remember watching that ceremony with a bunch of friends that year and all of us wondering through half the show what they were until finally Jeremy Irons explained them.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||05/06/2021|
We used a damp sponge to moisten Green Stamps to stick to the booklet. No tongue.
Can't for the life of me remember any item we received for redeeming the stamps.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||05/07/2021|
How old do you need to be to remember green stamps? 65 maybe.
Certainly confirms that Broadway thread posters skew ancient.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||05/07/2021|
How many DLers went to the NY World's Fair and how old were you?
|by Anonymous||reply 241||05/07/2021|
[quote] How old do you need to be to remember green stamps? 65 maybe.
I'm in my mid-50s and I remember them. They were popular at least into the 1970s, but I think declined after that.
Broadway shows are announcing their returns and here we are, discussing S&H green stamps! The state of the Theatre Gossip threads today.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||05/07/2021|
The Harry Potter script is very poorly written. Without the extravagant production and the effects, it's a third rate bus and truck children's theater production.
I doubt the "woke" rebellion has had much impact on box office, but maybe it has. Are people going to see it multiple times like the tweens do with WICKED? If not, they may just saturated their audience.
Also, I would imagine the time commitment for a two part version for family's and tourists on vacation in NYC might be unattractive. It was a spectacular production of a very thin text
|by Anonymous||reply 243||05/07/2021|
Harry Potter was already starting to wane on Broadway long before Rowling starting poking the trans-bear. As opposed to London where it was still near-impossible to get tickets. I suspect a lot of it has to do with a.) the structure of the tourist trade in each city and b.) the cultural place of HP in London vs. the US.
And the poster upthread made a very good point about repeat viewings. That's what separates hits from smashes quite often, and multiple viewings of two shows is both financially prohibitive and difficult from a scheduling perspective. It really is asking a lot of a tourist in NY (let alone a family of them) to commit to a two-play ticket.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||05/07/2021|
Nicholas Nickleby was a two-show ticket, and it was a huge hit in NY and in LA. Of course, that was forty years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||05/07/2021|
It was also a limited 3-month run, r245. And they brought it back 4 years later and it flopped.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||05/07/2021|
I fondly remember a set of formica collapsible TV tables that could be stacked in their own holder when not in use that we acquired with our Plaid Stamps. They were the perfect platform for Mother's Swanson TV Dinners as we watched The Garry Moore Show. Oh how I loved that Salisbury Steak with the apple compote dessert.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||05/07/2021|
There seems to be some consternation over whether that new CABARET will be the Mendes or the Prince version over at ATC. Will we ever see a revival of the Prince version with a straight Cliff? Has a director been announced for this new revival? I'm sick of CABARET.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||05/07/2021|
I remember when the Nicholas Nickleby revival was announced, my best friend and I POUNCED to get tickets the minute they were available so that we didn't miss out again. Months go by, we show up at the theatre and it was about half-empty.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||05/07/2021|
Has anyone ever musicalized NICHOLAS NICKLEBY?
There's OLIVER and EDWIN DROOD and a bunch of semi-successful CHRISTMAS CAROL musical adaptations. What's a good Dickens novel that hasn't been adapted yet, DL scholars?
|by Anonymous||reply 250||05/07/2021|
[quote] I remember when the Nicholas Nickleby revival was announced, my best friend and I POUNCED to get tickets the minute they were available so that we didn't miss out again. Months go by, we show up at the theatre and it was about half-empty.
That seems to happen to me too. Stuff that I'm sure is going to be a smash hit closes in a week and shows that I think to myself 'Who's gonna want to see this shit?" becomes an impossible ticket and runs for years.
I've always thought producers could make a fortune by using me as a one-man focus group and investing in inverse proportion to what I like.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||05/07/2021|
[quote] Has anyone ever musicalized NICHOLAS NICKLEBY?
Sorry, I don't have a decade to watch one show
|by Anonymous||reply 252||05/07/2021|
2020 Tony Awards Should Be Coming This Fall to Launch Comeback:
|by Anonymous||reply 253||05/07/2021|
[quote]Patrick O'Connell, the inventor of the red ribbon and founder of Visual AIDS, has died of AIDS related complications
I don't know him.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||05/07/2021|
I aw the original NN and long stretches were tedious. I don't know why it caught on and was such a hot success. There were some performances that were wonderful. And Rees was dynamic and handsome but everything was happening to him and it didn't seem very interesting.
For those who've seen it on video is it compelling?
|by Anonymous||reply 255||05/07/2021|
I worked on Nicholas Nickleby. I enjoyed it, but A). I was busy, and B). I was getting paid.
I've seen the video, and while I didn't find it compelling, it was, for me, worth the watch. Years later, I was watching The West Wing. President Bartlett was attending the theater, and the song they were singing sounded familiar. Later, I learned why.
This clip shows The West Wing version, and at around 2:42, you see the Nicholas Nickleby version.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||05/07/2021|
Sure, they're were some duller stretches—but the overall experience was (as the poster said) priceless. It worked on so many levels- sussing out which characters were played by which multi-cast actors ("OMG that's the same guy who's playing so-and-so!" etc.), the taking over the entire space, the cast hanging out with the audience during the intermissions, and the overall feeling of doing this massive undertaking with the company. I remember people throughout the audience being amazed at how much time had passed when the first intermission intermission came.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||05/07/2021|
I find the trashier and more lurid Mendes version more interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||05/07/2021|
[quote]We used a damp sponge to moisten Green Stamps to stick to the booklet. No tongue.
Are you Madeline Kahn in "Young Frankenstein"?
|by Anonymous||reply 259||05/07/2021|
Prince revived his version of Cabaret with Joel Grey and it was a huge flop.
I saw NN towards the end of its run and when the cast came out to mingle with the audience right before the second part started they seemed very tired. I stood by Rees a part of the time trying to engage with the people talking to him but his face appeared a blank from sheer exhaustion. But as soon as they got back on stage and it started they didn't show a trace of it, they were immediately into the performance. I was really impressed.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||05/07/2021|
The 80's Cabaret just didn't work. Maybe because Allyson Reed was so boring as Sally. I'd always thought of Sally as being a great fool-proof role until I saw her and Sienna Miller in the role that I realized how that character can seem almost inconsequential in the hands of the wrong actress. You really need someone with a lot of charisma to make that role work. You have to understand why Cliff would be drawn to her in spite of all her shortcomings and lack of talent. It's like having a Mama Rose without charisma. It makes you ask the rest of the characters "why are you keeping this crazy bitch around?"
|by Anonymous||reply 261||05/07/2021|
Sienna Miller was my favorite Sally and I’ve seen about 7 of them in the Roundabout production. She was a spoiled child I wanted to put in the corner for a time-out. I thought it worked beautifully.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||05/07/2021|
They beefed up the role of the Emcee for the 80s revival and it just didn’t work. The cast was dull and uninspired. They did give Cliff a new song (Don’t Go) which was an improvement over Why Should I Wake Up. There’s a pro shot on YouTube if anyone needs a nap.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||05/07/2021|
[quote]There seems to be some consternation over whether that new CABARET will be the Mendes or the Prince version over at ATC
Is there any reason they've ruled out an entirely new production?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||05/07/2021|
I saw Nicholas Nickelby early in its first New York run, and it remains to this day the best play I've ever seen. It was a thrilling piece of theatre done with no special effects, just imagination (while Nicholas was having a tearful goodbye with his mother and sister before heading off to his first teaching job in Yorkshire, a stagecoach was created with boxes and baskets by the cast; he hopped on waving and the coach pulled away, to great audience applause). Actors played wicked characters in one scene and good or comic characters a few scenes later. The Crummles theatre company was a hilarious/loving satire of those who tread the boards. I've never wept at a Christmas carol, but the use of one at the very end was heart-rending. It was eight hours long (and left out several long slogs from the book), and I would have happily watched it for another eight hours. And I had a brief chat with the charming Roger Rees and got him to sign my Playbill during one of the intermissions. I believe my ticket was $150 for an orchestra seat at the Plymouth. It was recorded for TV, and while it's a nice visual reminder of the show the flat direction and overuse of audience reaction shots doesn't do it justice.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||05/07/2021|
R265 Did they purposefully limit themselves to Victorian stagecraft as a reinforcement of the material?
|by Anonymous||reply 266||05/07/2021|
R265 I completely agree. That original NY production was the greatest thing I've ever seen in the theatre. The tv filming was flat, but a decent souvenir of what happened live in the theatre. I also saw the very soon after return in LA and it was fine, but (maybe because I knew what was coming or maybe because of a less great cast) nowhere near as thrilling or heartbreaking. You're dead on on all counts in your assessment here. (Or at least you agree with me, which, of course, makes you100% right.)
|by Anonymous||reply 267||05/07/2021|
[quote] Prince revived his version of Cabaret with Joel Grey and it was a huge flop.
I don't know if it made its money back, but I wouldn't call it a huge flop. It ran for 8-9 months.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||05/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 269||05/07/2021|
I doubt in the 80s 8-9 months would get you your money back especially if it wasn't selling out.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||05/07/2021|
[quote]t's like having a Mama Rose without charisma. It makes you ask the rest of the characters "why are you keeping this crazy bitch around?"
Agree to disagree.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||05/07/2021|
"2020 Tony Awards Should Be Coming This Fall to Launch Comeback:"
Ladies and Gentlemen, the lowest rated awards show in history will take place in the fall of 2021 - The 2020 Tony Awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||05/07/2021|
Will it be held in a train station? There is that new train hall in the old post office building that might be nice?
|by Anonymous||reply 273||05/07/2021|
Totally agree with r265 and r267. Best theatrical production in my lifetime. I watch the DVD every few years to remind me of the joy of seeing it the first time.
A few years ago in Williamstown I ran into Roger Rees; we were staying in the same hotel. I got to tell him what NN meant to me, and he was bashul and sweet. "You're too kind," he said. I melted.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||05/07/2021|
[quote]The 80's Cabaret just didn't work. Maybe because Allyson Reed was so boring as Sally. I'd always thought of Sally as being a great fool-proof role until I saw her and Sienna Miller in the role that I realized how that character can seem almost inconsequential in the hands of the wrong actress. You really need someone with a lot of charisma to make that role work. You have to understand why Cliff would be drawn to her in spite of all her shortcomings and lack of talent. It's like having a Mama Rose without charisma. It makes you ask the rest of the characters "why are you keeping this crazy bitch around?"
|by Anonymous||reply 275||05/07/2021|
Grey toured in Cabaret pre and post broadway. It made its money back and then some
|by Anonymous||reply 276||05/07/2021|
Re: The Redmayne/Buckley CABARET
Baz has tweeted that it will be a [bold]new[/bold] production.
There is speculation on the UK TheatreBoard that Jamie Lloyd will direct (due to his Company's connection to the Playhouse Theatre). If so, you'd think that would have been announced along with the casting news.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||05/07/2021|
I gather the Rufus Norris production of Cabaret was really good.
Introducing the Dutch Aladdin. He’s a cutie.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||05/07/2021|
I saw the Prince CABARET at least 3 times when I was a teen and, let me tell you, Jill Haworth got the most undeserved bum rap for her Sally Bowles. She was absolutely enthralling and unforgettable. I think even those who've only heard her performance on the OBC would agree. She was far better than any of the Sallys I saw in the Mendes production including Natasha Richardson.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||05/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 280||05/07/2021|
Laura Benanti giving us big ol crazy hair and eyes!
|by Anonymous||reply 281||05/07/2021|
I saw the original NN as well. The ending was truly devastating, in a purely theatrical way, but it has stuck with me all these years.
But the real highlight for me was when the cast mingled in the audience, I recognized one of the British actresses as someone from one of my favorite films. I didn't want to say anything, but she came and stood right next to me and smiled, and so I said to her in my best Scottish accent:
She nodded her head and said "Why yes, thank you for remembering me"
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie was one of my favorite films!
|by Anonymous||reply 282||05/07/2021|
I believe Jane Carr has played Jean Brodie as well, r282. She also did Lettice and Lovage on the West Coast.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||05/07/2021|
NN was stunning. Would love to find a copy of the Three Sisters they did that season. Was beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||05/07/2021|
I've worked with Jane (Mary MacGregor) Carr a couple of times over the years and she's a truly delightful person. She also played Angela Lansbury's wallflower daughter, in love with Michael York, in SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE, directed by Hal Prince, of course.
I think NICHOLAS NICKLEBY is actually Dickens' most adaptable novel to a stage musical. It has somewhat fewer subplots and characters than his other books with a couple of love stories at its center and less true tragedy and Victorian politics. It also covers fewer years than most of Dickens' stories. And, of course, there are the hilariously sweet episodes with the Victorian theatre troupe.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||05/07/2021|
Jane Carr wasw valso in A Gentleman's Guide To LOve and Murder.
She had a smallish role, but it was right at the beginning, so they must have wanted someone with professional polish to launch the show, what with all the newcomers in the cast.
At least they were new to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||05/07/2021|
R285 NN has already been a musical of sorts. I have the PYE label LP on my shelf.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||05/07/2021|
"For those who've seen it on video is it compelling?"
It's far less compelling on video than it was in the theatre, where it was one of the most brilliant, vibrant and astonishing productions I've ever seen. The muffin boys! "To be or not...to be that is the question"....The death of Ralph Nickleby...Smike's "Who calls so loud?"....so many moments still resonating in my mind forty years after the fact!
|by Anonymous||reply 288||05/07/2021|
Here, spend an hour of your Friday night with Barb & Steve...
|by Anonymous||reply 289||05/07/2021|
Speaking of stage shows on video that are both English and long....
I'm watching BILLY ELLIOT (THE MUSICAL LIVE) now. Live recording of London cast.
I'm about 50 minutes in, but the damn thing is just under 3 hours long. Never saw it on Broadway. And it's not really working for me.
Does it get.... better?
|by Anonymous||reply 290||05/07/2021|
R290, saw it in London. It's really good live.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||05/07/2021|
Billy Elliot musical was never any good, except for the lads dancing.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||05/07/2021|
TBH I thought the Billy Elliot film was beautiful, with a great cast giving their all to the material. It’s no great shakes, but in comparison to many of the recent filmed performances (Kinky Boots, Gypsy) it resounds. Of course, Follies wins (when does it not) in regards to a masterful filmed show, but it’s entertaining and enjoyable for what it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||05/07/2021|
Someone earlier in the thread asked about the Johnathan Bailey/Samantha Barks Last 5 Years. He was charming as hell in it, and gorgeous.
Jason Robert Brown's direction was tedious and very literal. TV screens descended regularly to show cheap looking animations (weather, what was being described on the Schmuel song). During 'The Next Ten Minutes' two doors at the back of the stage took forever to open and Cathy came out reallly slowly on a little boat.
Fra Fee and Amy Lennox did a really beautiful production in Belfast the year before it that I wish had been revived in London.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||05/07/2021|
HP is not beloved on Broadway cause word-of-mouth isn't great. I loathed it, and so did my friend, who was an HP fanatic. It's a crap script with lots of fancy special effects. It should never have won the Tony.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||05/07/2021|
I first saw Cabaret onstage in Prince's late 80s revival and although it was disappointing it was far from a total wash. Grey was still wonderful but I can't believe no one has mentioned my favorite thing about that production, Werner Klemperer as Herr Schultz and Regina Resnik as Fräulein Schneider. Klemperer's performance must have been very different from Jack Gilford's in the original but it was sincere and deeply affecting. A different universe from ColoneI Klink. I had adored Resnik for years in opera but was floored by what she did here and just a few years later in A Little Night Music at City Opera. Huge ovations at the end in both shows. Astonishingly fine as both an actress and singer.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||05/07/2021|
I’m available for Fraulein Schneider! Can we add some “business” of me peering behind windows to every scene? Just an idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||05/07/2021|
London gets a lot of [italic]Cabaret[/italic] productions. Instead of getting a revival of the Mendes production, they had Rufus Norris directing a 2006 revival that ran almost 2 years and came back again slightly revised in 2012 after touring, and then toured again. I saw it with Will Young and thought it was dreadful. I'm 90% sure he ended up totally naked. What a concept.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||Last Saturday at 4:07 AM|
I think the TV version of Nickelby works best as a sense-memory for those of us who saw the original live. Part of why it was so magical was that it was one of the most compete and authentic uses of live theater's suspension of disbelief I've ever experienced, from the coach that r265 references, to the cast mingling, to the sheer running-time with all of us in agreeing to live in this alternate universe of imagination for 8 hours. We all made a tacit deal to believe everyhing they suggested, and it was ecstatic as a group experience, including the cast.
TV, as it must, made it literal.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||Last Saturday at 4:15 AM|
Remember the days when Trevor Nunn's name on a show was a promise of excellence? Sigh.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||Last Saturday at 4:31 AM|
Billy Elliot on Bway SUCKED.
There was so much hype with some shills calling it a “classic that will be revived over and over again” and “among the greatest musicals of the century.”
It was just a limp noodle that stunk up the stage
|by Anonymous||reply 301||Last Saturday at 4:39 AM|
yes r301 and one of the worst-written musicals ever. The book was jaw-droopingly bad. And that giant room that spun up on a corkscrew mechanism like Pride Rock. And a character [italic]actually[/italic] named "Dead Mum" Oy.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||Last Saturday at 4:43 AM|
That said, "Merry Christmas, Maggie Thatcher" is catchy.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||Last Saturday at 5:03 AM|
[quote]I think the TV version of Nickelby works best as a sense-memory for those of us who saw the original live.
It also worked quite well for this old guy who never had that pleasure r299.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||Last Saturday at 5:19 AM|
Is LMM coming back into HAMILTON?
|by Anonymous||reply 305||Last Saturday at 6:37 AM|
Was Jane Carr in the original NN? In New York?
Also, Fra Free. Thanks for reminding me. How is he? WHERE is he?
|by Anonymous||reply 306||Last Saturday at 6:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 307||Last Saturday at 6:47 AM|
[quote]Was Jane Carr in the original NN? In New York?
Suzanne Bertish was in the original 1980/81 RSC production and appears in the TV broadcast. Jane Carr played those parts in the 1986 revival (and was, imo, even better than Bertish.)
|by Anonymous||reply 308||Last Saturday at 6:51 AM|
Is Jane Carr coming back to Hamilton?
|by Anonymous||reply 309||Last Saturday at 6:52 AM|
[quote]Is Jane Carr coming back to Hamilton?
Speaking of Hamilton: Will "Man 6" become "Any Gendered Human 6"
|by Anonymous||reply 310||Last Saturday at 6:55 AM|
Fra Fee is such a atupid name.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Saturday at 7:01 AM|
'Fra' is short for Francis.
He's out, ripped, adorable and talented - a standout in that excellent Ferryman cast. He could call himself Cis and I wouldn't care.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||Last Saturday at 7:51 AM|
[quote]Remember the days when Trevor Nunn's name on a show was a promise of excellence? Sigh.
I think maybe there was a time when his name attached to a NON-MUSICAL show was a promise of excellence....
I would say BILLY ELLIOTT is a basically wonderful show that would be improved tremendously by major cutting, and it probably would have been cut to its advantage if people with more expertise in musical theater -- especially American-style musical theater -- had been involved in the original production.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||Last Saturday at 8:25 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 314||Last Saturday at 9:00 AM|
Maybe like many of us, Lin just hasn't cut his hair in 15 months. My hair is well past my shoulders. Maybe I'll go into Six.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||Last Saturday at 9:03 AM|
I saw BILLY ELLIOT in London in its second year, before it arrived on Broadway, on a Thursday matinee, filled with school children and teenagers and their teachers, as well as a healthy sprinkling of British matinee ladies. They all went nuts for the entire show, laughing and screaming and enjoying themselves. The Margaret Thatcher number really brought down the house.
My husband and I smiled a few times.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||Last Saturday at 9:26 AM|
Fra Fee indeed is the whole package, especially with his hot little bod... which he now has done his best to ruin with a plethora of the ugliest tattoos imaginable. Why actors, especially stage actors, insist on covering their bodies with tattoos is confounding to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||Last Saturday at 9:27 AM|
There's a reason Suzanne Bertish's NY theater appearances have been so few and far between. She's a major CUNT.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||Last Saturday at 9:27 AM|
[quote]Fra Fee indeed is the whole package, especially with his hot little bod... which he now has done his best to ruin with a plethora of the ugliest tattoos imaginable. Why actors, especially stage actors, insist on covering their bodies with tattoos is confounding to me.
So true, and so sad. (Though I don't understand why you think it's worse for stage actors than film actors.) I wonder if any of these fools are familiar with the experience of Cheyenne Jackson. He at one point point covered his torso in tattoos (at a time when he seems to have gone off the deep end mentally and emotionally) and later went through the pain and expense of having them all removed because he felt they were preventing him from getting some acting jobs and/or it was way too much trouble and too time consuming to try to cover them with makeup for certain parts.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||Last Saturday at 9:52 AM|
I stated this on another TG thread: pre-CV19, I saw a small musical off-off-Bway. One of the featured actors had NECK tattoos (the kind with cursive script that encircles the entire neck). This, for a show set in another period. It was visible to everyone in the audience, and beyond distracting. There wasn't even a half-hearted attempt to cover it with make-up (which never really works, anyway).
If I were in Casting I'd bounce any wanna-be performer with visible, distracting tattoos on their face, neck, hands, legs, or forearms. It's a genuinely disgusting trend and a disfiguring one. Worse than piercings.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||Last Saturday at 9:59 AM|
[quote] and later went through the pain and expense of having them all removed because he felt they were preventing him from getting some acting jobs
Poor deluded Cheyenne. Yeah, THAT's why you're not getting acting jobs.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||Last Saturday at 10:05 AM|
While in film there are makeup artists very adept at covering up tattoos because it is such a prevalent trend, a lot of stage productions (such as the one just referenced) don’t have the resources to have a makeup artist on hand at every performance to do the painstaking work of covering up tattoos eight times a week. That’s why I stated it was even worse for stage actors to go tat crazy, but it’s stupid for any actor to get them.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||Last Saturday at 10:21 AM|
I once saw a terrible Hercules-type movie (on Netflix) that was obviously made for 79 cents. One of the ancient gladiators had a tattoo of Texas on his bicep.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||Last Saturday at 10:24 AM|
"That said, "Merry Christmas, Maggie Thatcher" is catchy."
So are jingles and viruses. "Catchy" and "earworm" have to be the most denigrating descriptions of music in common usage. It's helpful in only one way: it's shorthand for crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||Last Saturday at 10:42 AM|
[quote]That’s why I stated it was even worse for stage actors to go tat crazy, but it’s stupid for any actor to get them.
Also, r322, a film actor's tattoos can be touched up between takes, whereas a stage actor's could easily be sweated or rubbed off.
I do know a few actors that have several tattoos, but cover them themselves. Michael Cerveris comes to mind.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||Last Saturday at 10:57 AM|
Ramin Karimloo is a primary offender in terms of tats.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||Last Saturday at 11:10 AM|
r321 Cheyenne is a regular on a network sitcom.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||Last Saturday at 11:16 AM|
Yeah, and it's about to be canceled.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||Last Saturday at 11:37 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 329||Last Saturday at 11:40 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 330||Last Saturday at 11:41 AM|
I’m not a theater gay but it’s fun to read these threads now and then. Why is OP greyed out?
|by Anonymous||reply 331||Last Saturday at 11:43 AM|
R329 Kevin Kline asleep on stage seems like the best way to take him.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||Last Saturday at 11:47 AM|
Fra Fee in solo concert performances is great. He was supposed to star in a musical version of Breakfast on Pluto last year, not sure if it's still happening. The trans community went a bit crazy over the casting
|by Anonymous||reply 333||Last Saturday at 11:56 AM|
This is what all you queens are going crazy over? Jesus. He looks inbred.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||Last Saturday at 11:58 AM|
I have worked with Michael Cerveris as well as two actresses who had rather large tattoos on the front of their legs and they all covered them with makeup before each performance very easily. The makeup is safe to the skin but it's like painting over the tat with a flesh-matched opaque acrylic paint. No makeup artist necessary.
Not that i approve of tats on actors, but It's really not hard these days. Of course, the makeup is used for auditions so casting and directors are not even aware of the issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||Last Saturday at 11:58 AM|
[quote]Poor deluded Cheyenne. Yeah, THAT's why you're not getting acting jobs.
There's some truth to that rather nasty comment, but I do believe that Cheyenne has gotten some recent work that he might not have gotten if still had those tattoos. Check imdb for details.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||Last Saturday at 12:03 PM|
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't get the memo that non-talent, crazy as a shithouse rat, cheating piece of shit Cheyenne had been deified recently. My mistake.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||Last Saturday at 12:05 PM|
R337, I'm not sure what you're referring to in your comment about Cheyenne Jackson being "deified." As for me, I was only commenting on his tattoo removal and whether or not that has removed one barrier against him getting work
R335, but obliterating tattoos with makeup may not always be that easy, depending on how many tattoos there are, where they're placed, how dark the ink is, et cetera.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||Last Saturday at 12:10 PM|
I was referring to your pearl clutching over my comment. If you can't handle "nasty" (which it hardly was), then perhaps the DL isn't for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||Last Saturday at 12:12 PM|
So let's get back to some old school DISH! Anyone have the real tea on why The Nanny's Daniel Davis was canned from the LA CAGE revival back in 2005? I heard the Nederlanders met him after a Sunday matinee with this walking papers. But it was never spelled out what he was doing backstage (other than frosting out the beloved Gary Beach). Anyone know what actually went down?
|by Anonymous||reply 340||Last Saturday at 12:21 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 341||Last Saturday at 2:34 PM|
[quote]I’m not a theater gay but it’s fun to read these threads now and then. Why is OP greyed out?
If you look back, most of the preceding theater gossip threads are grayed out, I suspect by some unstable person angry that someone other than he got to start the new thread. I have no idea who this person is, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||Last Saturday at 4:37 PM|
If you're referring to me (the guy who started the other #518), I can assure you I have never FF'ed an OP because I didn't like their title, and I really don't care if someone posts a new thread (though I do love busting balls over a bad title). And I'm pretty certain one person can't get a post greyed out, otherwise Jabba from the Janet Jackson threads would have gotten half of those things canceled on the power of her own mania.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||Last Saturday at 5:23 PM|
I think it's more those people who either don't like numbered threads, or those people who can't cope with people starting threads about subjects which don't interest them personally.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||Last Saturday at 6:19 PM|
I saw Fra Fee play CANDIDE in London five years ago. He has a fantastic voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||Last Saturday at 8:18 PM|
R345 Meh, he is no DL fav Jonty bailey.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||Last Saturday at 8:20 PM|
R296 - agreed about Regina Resnik. I think she was, by far, the greatest Mdme. Armfeldt. And, yes, I include Hermione Gingold in that assessment.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||Last Saturday at 8:34 PM|
Excuse me? Excuse you? Excuse whomever...
|by Anonymous||reply 348||Last Saturday at 11:04 PM|
Is there any footage of her in Cabaret?
|by Anonymous||reply 349||Last Sunday at 3:37 AM|
yes r324 and don't forget [bold]lyrics[/bold]. The damn [italic]words[/italic] really contribute a lot to the "catchiness" or deserved instant forgeability of a song, and Billy Elliot's are crap and so far from [italic]lyrical[/italic] (vs. prosaic) as song's words can get.
[bold]pro·sa·ic | prəˈzāik | adjective having the style or diction of prose; lacking poetic beauty. See for example, these lyrics to the London and Broadway musical "Billy Elliot":
[italic]What the hells wrung with expressing yourself? Being who you want to be? Will anybody die if you put on a dress? Who the hell cares if your blushers a mess?[/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 350||Last Sunday at 3:38 AM|
Billy was a financial success, making it more desirable a property than a financial bomb like Follies. after all, it IS a business.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||Last Sunday at 4:46 AM|
Second Stage announces its fall season, and confirms that, yes, the TAKE ME OUT revival is happening.
I wouldn't have put money on that happening.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||Last Sunday at 6:07 AM|
I saw it, it's a good show. great for a well-built multi-ethnic cast
|by Anonymous||reply 353||Last Sunday at 6:09 AM|
Broadway celebrates LGBTQ Pride!
In a park in Queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||Last Sunday at 6:09 AM|
Gingold is Gingold in everything. As Mme. Arnfeld, John Simon very correctly noted that she played an aging courtesan as a fag hag.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||Last Sunday at 6:14 AM|
Cheyenne Jackson is no actor but most actors would kill to work as much as he does. I haven't seen that "Julie and the Phantoms" show. Is he recurring on that?
|by Anonymous||reply 356||Last Sunday at 6:15 AM|
Is Fra Fee still coupled with the London Phantom, Killian Donnelly?
|by Anonymous||reply 357||Last Sunday at 6:20 AM|
Here's "Expressing Yourself" from BILLY ELLIOT. Thoughts?
IMHO, the kids are cute and trying hard. Perhaps a bit too hard. I wanted to love this number but the song is pure crap and the giant dresses are nightmare-inducing.
The kid playing Billy really is a spectacular dancer, at any rate.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||Last Sunday at 6:24 AM|
Cheyenne is an understudy who got lucky.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||Last Sunday at 7:08 AM|
That worked out well for Shirley.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||Last Sunday at 7:11 AM|
R311 who'd name their kid Fra Fee?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||Last Sunday at 7:20 AM|
Fra is short for Francis, lazy cunt at R361.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||Last Sunday at 7:23 AM|
Too short, I say, r362.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||Last Sunday at 7:26 AM|
Cheyenne was a guy in musical theater who was masculine (at least onstage) and that's a Golden Ticket.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||Last Sunday at 7:34 AM|
Why do the Irish shorten names weirdly? Liam for William. Ria for Maria. Now Fra for Francis.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||Last Sunday at 7:40 AM|
Isn't Ria Jones Welsh?
|by Anonymous||reply 366||Last Sunday at 7:41 AM|
[quote]Gingold is Gingold in everything. As Mme. Arnfeld, John Simon very correctly noted that she played an aging courtesan as a fag hag.
As worthless as most of John Simon's assessments.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||Last Sunday at 7:50 AM|
No one but a gay man would have believed Gingold had sex with Kings and Dukes.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||Last Sunday at 7:52 AM|
He was very sexy in All Shook Up, r364.
|by Anonymous||reply 369||Last Sunday at 7:52 AM|
She was certainly no Naima Wifstrand , r368!
|by Anonymous||reply 370||Last Sunday at 7:57 AM|
Frances Heflin, who played Erica Kane's mother on "All My Children" (and was in the original cast of "The Skin of Our Teeth" on Broadway), was known as Fra to her friends and family members.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||Last Sunday at 7:58 AM|
I was very close to her, r371, and she allow me to call her Fr.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||Last Sunday at 8:01 AM|
I remember being smitten with Cheyenne's massive thighs in Daisy Dukes in XANADU.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||Last Sunday at 8:01 AM|
[quote]No one but a gay man would have believed Gingold had sex with Kings and Dukes.
You're so right. Margaret Hamilton was much more believable casting in the national tour.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||Last Sunday at 8:02 AM|
Cheyenne wasn't bad in Xanadu. He came across as masculine as noted and boy did that show need it.
Still very enjoyable.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||Last Sunday at 8:03 AM|
Pamela Harriman wasn't exactly a stunner...
|by Anonymous||reply 376||Last Sunday at 8:05 AM|
Did Cheyenne refuse to wear the short shorts on a TV performance or was it the network? He wore longer ones, as I recall.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||Last Sunday at 8:06 AM|
[quote]Fra is short for Francis, lazy cunt
The truly lazy cunt is this Francis, calling himself "Fra."
|by Anonymous||reply 378||Last Sunday at 8:08 AM|
Did you bitch about Binky Beaumont?
|by Anonymous||reply 379||Last Sunday at 8:15 AM|
[quote]Fra is short for Francis.
I guess he didn't want to call himself "Cis."
|by Anonymous||reply 380||Last Sunday at 8:21 AM|
Regina Resnick was much more believable and because we knew her as a young girl, Leslie Caron.
|by Anonymous||reply 381||Last Sunday at 8:21 AM|
Discuss: Cheyenne Jackson is the gay Andy Karl.
Handsome, sexy leading men with strong voices and undeniably masculine presence. Veterans of many failed Bway shows.
Have they ever worked together?
|by Anonymous||reply 382||Last Sunday at 8:24 AM|
[quote]Cheyenne Jackson is no actor...
You're probably just being naturally bitchy, but I disagree with your assessment. He has a beautiful singing voice, and I think he's always been excellent in comedy and musical comedy roles. He even managed to be very funny and charming in that very short-lived Broadway play about pron actors. The only serious dramatic fare I ever saw him in was the harrowing film UNITED 93, and he was fine in that as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||Last Sunday at 8:28 AM|
Andy Karl is jolie laide. Cheyenne wasn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||Last Sunday at 8:29 AM|
I wasn't being bitchy. I don't think he's a good actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||Last Sunday at 8:29 AM|
[quote]Discuss: Cheyenne Jackson is the gay Andy Karl.
Except I have 3 Tony nominations!
|by Anonymous||reply 386||Last Sunday at 8:30 AM|
[Quote] I think he's always been excellent in comedy
You saw him in 30 Rock?
|by Anonymous||reply 387||Last Sunday at 8:31 AM|
Cheyenne has to be a good actor if he can make me believe his character would voluntarily kiss Mayim Bialik.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||Last Sunday at 8:37 AM|
I find Andy Karl quite handsome, but then I like strong masculine features, not androgynes.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||Last Sunday at 8:53 AM|
Those eyebrows, Jesus wept.
|by Anonymous||reply 390||Last Sunday at 8:56 AM|
[quote]I wasn't being bitchy. I don't think he's a good actor.
In what roles did you find him wanting? In my opinion, he has never played a part beyond his wheelhouse. Of course, I haven't seen EVERYTHING he's done, but I've seen a lot of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||Last Sunday at 8:58 AM|
Andy Karl and Cheyenne worked together in Alter Boys in its initial NYMF production. Cheyenne left the production before it transferred to New World Stages when Scott Porter stepped into Cheyenne's role.
Scott Porter left Alter Boys when he was cast in Friday Night Lights.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||Last Sunday at 8:59 AM|
[quote]Andy Karl and Cheyenne worked together in Alter Boys in its initial NYMF production.
Was "Alter Boys" a trans musical?
|by Anonymous||reply 393||Last Sunday at 9:10 AM|
That would be "Altered Boys" R393.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||Last Sunday at 9:14 AM|
[quote]I find Andy Karl quite handsome, but then I like strong masculine features, not androgynes.
R389 = Orfeh
|by Anonymous||reply 395||Last Sunday at 9:15 AM|
[Quote] In what roles did you find him wanting?
I found him underwhelming in 30 Rock, American Horror Story... Shit, even in this clip from "Julie and the Phantoms," he underwhelms. He has no flair. He has no character as a performer. He has bone structure, height and a capable, generic pop voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||Last Sunday at 9:15 AM|
Cheyenne was wasted on 30 ROCK. Tina and her team had no idea what to do with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||Last Sunday at 9:20 AM|
If only Tina had jolie laide him.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||Last Sunday at 9:23 AM|
It seems at some point that Kyle Dean Massey replaced him, but I feel someone must have replace KDM as well. And AKB slipped in there for a few years as too, but seems to have also been passed by.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||Last Sunday at 9:23 AM|
I think Cheyenne is au fait with Tina.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||Last Sunday at 9:25 AM|
Cheyenne is just fine. He doesn't offend, but he doesn't dazzle either. I'd say that's the case with most Broadway performers from the past 20 years. They're capable and serviceable, but not very memorable. Most of the time, it only becomes obvious when they share the stage with the true Broadway stars. Those folks are able to turn a nothing line into a 3 act play by itself whereas the newer actors will get it out, make it sound semi-believable, but you won't be thinking about all their interesting choices for days after.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||Last Sunday at 9:40 AM|
Fra is a stupid name but then following it up with Fee makes it even worse. At least another London musical theatre queen Danny Boy Hatchard listened to those around him and dropped the Boy from his name.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||Last Sunday at 9:46 AM|
It would be more memorable if had dropped the Danny and became Boy Hatchard.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||Last Sunday at 9:51 AM|
Ste is another silly Britishism. Short for Steven. Why not Steve? Ste sounds like you're being cut-off mid-word.
|by Anonymous||reply 404||Last Sunday at 9:56 AM|
There's an opera called "Fra Diavolo" by Auber that was turned into a Laurel and Hardy movie!
|by Anonymous||reply 405||Last Sunday at 10:04 AM|
I thought it was because he got sick and tired of the pipes (the pipes) calling, r402.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||Last Sunday at 10:04 AM|
[quote]Ste is another silly Britishism. Short for Steven. Why not Steve? Ste sounds like you're being cut-off mid-word.
Let's not forget BAZ and GAZ.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||Last Sunday at 10:10 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 408||Last Sunday at 10:15 AM|
How do you feel about Jonty?
|by Anonymous||reply 409||Last Sunday at 10:15 AM|
^ Warm inside.
|by Anonymous||reply 410||Last Sunday at 10:18 AM|
The story of O...
|by Anonymous||reply 411||Last Sunday at 10:18 AM|
By Gayle King?
|by Anonymous||reply 412||Last Sunday at 10:46 AM|
A problem with Jackson on screen is that his eyes are just too piercing with his dark hair. I don't mean the coloring, there's something unsettling about the look. However, as a lead, he is much more convincing than most other out actors like Matt Bomer.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||Last Sunday at 11:02 AM|
It doesn't seem to hurt Cillian Murphy.
|by Anonymous||reply 414||Last Sunday at 11:03 AM|
In the early 2000s, I had friend who called Cillian Murphy a 'defective Tom Welling that somehow made it out of the factory.'
|by Anonymous||reply 415||Last Sunday at 11:11 AM|
If you want to see Cheyenne stink on ice, watch him in Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks. I'm surprised Rowlands didn't walk off the set. He's also terrible in AHS, and he's never been more than barely adequate in anything. He cannot act.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||Last Sunday at 11:29 AM|
At least Fra Free is a name you can't forget.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||Last Sunday at 11:31 AM|
[Quote] In the early 2000s, I had friend who called Cillian Murphy a 'defective Tom Welling that somehow made it out of the factory.'
Your friend considers acting ability a defect?
|by Anonymous||reply 418||Last Sunday at 11:33 AM|
[quote]At least Fra Free is a name you can't forget.
Or say three times quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||Last Sunday at 11:33 AM|
[Quote] If you want to see Cheyenne stink on ice, watch him in Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks.
He replaced someone at the last minute. I think it was Sean Hayes.
|by Anonymous||reply 420||Last Sunday at 11:34 AM|
It's Fee, not Free.
|by Anonymous||reply 421||Last Sunday at 11:34 AM|
[quote] He replaced someone at the last minute. I think it was Sean Hayes.
|by Anonymous||reply 422||Last Sunday at 11:35 AM|
I hope Boo Boo Stewart never comes to Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 423||Last Sunday at 11:41 AM|
How about Fine Time Fontayne?
|by Anonymous||reply 424||Last Sunday at 11:43 AM|
Cheyenne actually did a really good ad lib in that flop show with Henry Winkler about porn stars when at one point some beach ball or something they were throwing about went awry. I don't remember exactly what was said, but they kept the laughter going for a while. He has a good voice -- did a nice job in "Finian's Rainbow" and as Joey in "Most Happy Fella", though I've heard better ones. I just don't know why he got more work than some others.
|by Anonymous||reply 425||Last Sunday at 11:46 AM|
R418 he was talking about their looks, which he said were similar but that Welling was a much better-looking version of Murphy.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||Last Sunday at 11:47 AM|
I know. I just wanted to get in a comment about Tom Welling's acting ability.
|by Anonymous||reply 427||Last Sunday at 12:01 PM|
[Quote] I just don't know why he got more work than some others.
Broadway is often home to the homely. Cheyenne was a big hunk of a man in the looks department.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||Last Sunday at 12:03 PM|
I can’t watch Peaky Blinders. Cillian Murphy’s eyes creep me out the way Meg Foster’s did back in the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||Last Sunday at 12:10 PM|
Didn’t Daisy Eagan’s mom die around the time of the Tonys? That’s why her older sister brought her to the awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 430||Last Sunday at 12:20 PM|
Where does Nick Adams fit in the equation when we talk about/contrast people like Cheyenne, Andy and Kyle Dean Massey? Wasn't Aaron Lazar also a member of the handsome and/or masculine (maybe not so much in Nick's case) fraternity of musical performers?
|by Anonymous||reply 431||Last Sunday at 12:27 PM|
Nick Adams gets booked on a web series. That's where he falls.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||Last Sunday at 12:31 PM|
Aaron Lazar was quite an improvement over Matthew Morrison in "Light in the Piazza", though he wasn't quite as impressive in "A Little Night Music" or other things since.
|by Anonymous||reply 433||Last Sunday at 12:40 PM|
Nick Adams is fit to play Bozo the Clown Stripper and that’s it.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||Last Sunday at 1:35 PM|
Aw. Nick's a nice guy - though if it hadn't been for Mario Lopez making Nick put on a hoodie and dance upstage of him in the A Chorus Line revival for fear he'd be shown up. nobody would know who he is. Good for him for making the best of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||Last Sunday at 2:06 PM|
[quote]If you want to see Cheyenne stink on ice, watch him in Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks. I'm surprised Rowlands didn't walk off the set. He's also terrible in AHS, and he's never been more than barely adequate in anything. He cannot act.
You might want to avoid stating your minority opinions so definitively, you bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||Last Sunday at 2:13 PM|
Leave Cheyenne alone!
|by Anonymous||reply 437||Last Sunday at 2:15 PM|
Personally, I had no idea Cheyenne had ever been in the Ice Capades, so I appreciate r416's deep insider information.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||Last Sunday at 2:38 PM|
Cheyenne was a stunning man who, sadly, had no charisma on stage. I saw most of his Bway shows and , again, he was beautiful to look at but everything else screamed chorus boy, not leading man.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||Last Sunday at 3:11 PM|
He was great in All Shook Up, r439.
|by Anonymous||reply 440||Last Sunday at 3:17 PM|
[quote] You might want to avoid stating your minority opinions so definitively, you bitch.
Ooh, looks like I hit a nerve in some fangurl. Honey, you can stan him all you like. Be my guest. But your love for him doesn't make him suddenly have talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||Last Sunday at 3:26 PM|
And your dislike of him doesn't mean he doesn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||Last Sunday at 3:32 PM|
No, his work does.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||Last Sunday at 3:37 PM|
Cheyenne has admitted that he was using during Xanadu....And in "Most Happy Fella" you could tell he had been on the west coast too long. He sort of had contempt for the whole thing. It was a splendid production except for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||Last Sunday at 3:50 PM|
R444 using what?
|by Anonymous||reply 445||Last Sunday at 3:57 PM|
Just For Men, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||Last Sunday at 4:00 PM|
Drugs and booze...heavily
|by Anonymous||reply 447||Last Sunday at 4:04 PM|
R447 But as a gay man he would have been fully aware that Broadway doesn’t go for booze and dope?
|by Anonymous||reply 448||Last Sunday at 4:06 PM|
Re Fra Fee: His real name 'Francis Fee' sounds way better and trips off the tongue easier. 'Fra Fee' just sounds... retarded.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||Last Sunday at 4:22 PM|
Francis isn't well known as a male name anymore. I can't see why he went with the oddity of Fra instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||Last Sunday at 4:34 PM|
In her Tony speech, Daisy Eagen thanks her parents and says they’re both at the event (though not sitting with her).
|by Anonymous||reply 451||Last Sunday at 4:45 PM|
Whenever Cheyenne tried TV, he didn't really work either. Whenever I hear things like, "He was wasted and wasn't used correctly," I just roll my eyes.
It's not the script; it's him.
|by Anonymous||reply 452||Last Sunday at 4:47 PM|
Years ago there were entire DL threads filled with vicious gossip about Cheyenne and his new boyfriend for whom he'd left his long time (older) lover Monty. Whatever became of that relationship and why don't we talk about it any more? I think they even adopted a kid or two.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||Last Sunday at 4:47 PM|
R452 why do you think it's him?
|by Anonymous||reply 454||Last Sunday at 4:48 PM|
Did you see AHS Hotel?
|by Anonymous||reply 455||Last Sunday at 4:49 PM|
We get it, R443. You dislike Cheyenne Jackson and think he has no talent. We really don't need you to repeat it another 50 times, but you seem to have a problem understanding that not everyone shares your opinion or is terribly interested in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||Last Sunday at 4:51 PM|
R454, I do. He's beautiful, a serviceable actor, has a good singing voice---but so uninteresting on TV or on Bway. He doesn't really have that star quality.
I always compare him to Reichen, who is also beautiful and energic but oh so boring everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||Last Sunday at 4:52 PM|
He was good. in Finian's Rainbow too.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||Last Sunday at 4:54 PM|
And I suppose Frank Fee sounds too much like a postal tax
|by Anonymous||reply 459||Last Sunday at 5:09 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 460||Last Sunday at 5:14 PM|
“Look at me I’m Fra Fee, lousy with virginity.”
|by Anonymous||reply 461||Last Sunday at 5:20 PM|
Cheyenne and Fra could do a musical version of TWINS.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||Last Sunday at 5:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 463||Last Sunday at 5:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 464||Last Sunday at 5:33 PM|
Come again, r464?
|by Anonymous||reply 465||Last Sunday at 5:37 PM|
I think R462 was talking about a musical adaptation of the 1988 Arnold Schwarzenegger/Danny DeVito smash comedy hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||Last Sunday at 5:38 PM|
R464 Cheyenne has already practiced it with JJ. This does go along way towards showing how strapping he is, I’ve not thought of Jeremy being pocket sized before, but he certainly does look it in comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||Last Sunday at 5:46 PM|
Jeremy is 5'7" on a good day.
|by Anonymous||reply 468||Last Sunday at 5:50 PM|
Cheyenne talking about his drug period and depression...
|by Anonymous||reply 469||Last Sunday at 5:51 PM|
[quote]He's beautiful, a serviceable actor, has a good singing voice---but so uninteresting on TV or on Bway.
I would say rather that Cheyenne is excellent at low-key, subtle comedy and charm, and since most of the roles he has played have required exactly that, I don't see the problem that some people have with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 470||Last Sunday at 7:22 PM|
[quote] We get it, [R443]. You dislike Cheyenne Jackson and think he has no talent. We really don't need you to repeat it another 50 times, but you seem to have a problem understanding that not everyone shares your opinion or is terribly interested in it.
Umm, that wasn't me the past few Cheyenne criticisms. You seem to have a problem understanding that not everyone shares your opinion or is terribly interested in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 471||Last Sunday at 7:30 PM|
I could probably go searching, but what was the backstage scene like at NEWSIES? I imagine it went either two ways: with those guys all thick as thieves or HAAATING each other (and their common enemy, Kevin Spacey).
|by Anonymous||reply 472||Last Sunday at 8:06 PM|
Why would they hate Spacey? The entire cast of Newsies were whores.
|by Anonymous||reply 473||Last Sunday at 8:18 PM|
Cheyenne Jackson was sexy AF in ALL SHOOK UP. Great part for him, and he made the most of it. It was a star-making performance in a show that never took off. (And of all the jukebox musicals, it was one of the best. It's KING LEAR compared to the CHER SHOW or that Jimmy Buffett crapfest.) And he was charming and funny in FINIAN'S RAINBOW and XANADU. He's masculine and hunky in a world of prissy madams, and that alone makes him special.
30 ROCK had no idea what to do with him.
I hope he can get his personal life together, and I hope he returns to the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 474||Last Sunday at 9:08 PM|
Let's not forget Cheyenne in Rocky Horror...
|by Anonymous||reply 475||Last Sunday at 10:42 PM|
Cheyenne and Laura B were bff drug buddies for years and their respective repeated ODs is why their relationships with their loving, respectful partners both went to shit. It’s nice that they’ve apparently moved on and are “in a better place” but one doesn’t forget years of sweeping up sordid situations and heartbreaking incidents under the rug, ad nauseum. Steven and Monty are saints, period.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||Last Sunday at 11:28 PM|
[quote]I would say rather that Cheyenne is excellent at low-key, subtle comedy and charm,
You might rather say that, but he's a mediocre actor and an uninteresting presence on stage. His big "thing" was Xanadu. That's it. His sell-by date has come and gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||Last Monday at 1:11 AM|
Just how much does he cost at this point r477?
|by Anonymous||reply 478||Last Monday at 2:18 AM|
Broadway is finally coming back and we've got 40 posts debating Cheyenne who hasn't been on Broadway in 9 years, and 40 posts on whether we like [italic]the name[/italic] of an actor named Fra Fee, who's been on Broadway once. Gossip, girls, gossip.
Is Adrenne Warren going to come back to the dreadful [italic]Tina[/italic]? Who will star opposite Tony Award® winner Aaron Tveit in the dreadful [italic]Moulin Rouge[/italic]? Will now-pregnant Elizabeth Stanley return to the dreadful [italic]JLP[/italic]?
|by Anonymous||reply 479||Last Monday at 3:07 AM|
Oh, please, R479. Broadway is PLANNING to come back, perhaps, yet there is no plan in place. Given the fact these buffoons at the Broadway League, et al. couldn’t even get their shit together to do a zoom Tony Awards over the course of an entire calendar year, the “re-opening” looks bleak at best. Maybe - and that’s a big maybe, depending on how the summer goes and how deadly and/or vaccine resistant these variants turn out to be - Broadway will actually be reopening sometime in 2022.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||Last Monday at 3:26 AM|
Who have been the most stunningly handsome men of the Broadway musical theater in the past 20 years? I don't think most of the people you've been discussing would even make the list.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||Last Monday at 4:16 AM|
Cheyenne would have made a good Larry or Donald in BITB revival.
|by Anonymous||reply 482||Last Monday at 4:53 AM|
Try Cowboy, r482. That's more his speed.
|by Anonymous||reply 483||Last Monday at 5:01 AM|
Cheyenne is 45. Cowboy would have been his speed 15-20 years ago.
Lea Michele for replacement Satine in MOULIN ROUGE!
|by Anonymous||reply 484||Last Monday at 5:49 AM|
[quote]Broadway is finally coming back and we've got 40 posts debating Cheyenne who hasn't been on Broadway in 9 years, and 40 posts on whether we like the name of an actor named Fra Fee, who's been on Broadway once. Gossip, girls, gossip.
It isn't exactly fossip, but it's current. I know it isn't a DL fave, but Come From Away filmed on Saturday, in front of an audience. This is the cast entering the theater.
This morning, they announced they were reopening in September.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||Last Monday at 6:11 AM|
[quote]Lea Michele for replacement Satine in MOULIN ROUGE!
Lea Michele for Cowboy in BITB!
|by Anonymous||reply 486||Last Monday at 6:13 AM|
The late, great Rebecca Luker laments that soprano roles are "Not Funny."
|by Anonymous||reply 487||Last Monday at 6:13 AM|
[italic]Altered States: The Musical[/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 488||Last Monday at 6:20 AM|
Young Howard McGillin would certainly have ranked among the 10 handsomest men in Broadway musicals back in the 1980s. Also, Michael Maguire, the original Enjolras in Les Miz. I think of the current crop, Paul Alexander Nolan (from the flops Dr. Zhivago, JC Superstar, Bright Star and Margaritaville) is very handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 489||Last Monday at 6:22 AM|
That In the Heights movie looks very ethnic.
|by Anonymous||reply 490||Last Monday at 6:24 AM|
[Quote] Who will star opposite Tony Award® winner Aaron Tveit in the dreadful Moulin Rouge?
We've already decided on Sierra Boggess.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||Last Monday at 6:30 AM|
They will not repeat [italic]not[/italic] replace Latinx Olivo with white as snow boggess. do you think they're crazy????
|by Anonymous||reply 492||Last Monday at 6:37 AM|
COMPANY returning in December.
|by Anonymous||reply 493||Last Monday at 6:43 AM|
Howard McGillan was the rarest of Broadway leading men. Handsome with talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||Last Monday at 6:52 AM|
Could anyone tell if Chad was amongst the cast walking in to the theater? The camera was too far away for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||Last Monday at 6:53 AM|
Also supposedly hugely hung as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||Last Monday at 6:53 AM|
Sorry, I meant to tag R485's post.
|by Anonymous||reply 497||Last Monday at 6:54 AM|
Howard McGillin was one of the few performers I would actually go see as a replacement in shows I'd already seen, even if I didn't much care for them, because I knew his role would be sung beautifully. I saw him in The Secret Garden, Kiss of the Spider Woman and Phantom, three shows I would have never paid to see twice if not for him. He was especially a welcome replacement in The Secret Garden and sung the role beautifully, unlike Mandy Patinkin, who was so affected that he ruined several of the songs.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||Last Monday at 6:57 AM|
Well R480's post didn't age well, with Company (December), Mrs Doubtfire (October), Six (September), Chicago (September), Phantom (October) and Come From Away (September) all having confirmed reopenings this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 499||Last Monday at 7:02 AM|
I know- let's predict their closings!
|by Anonymous||reply 500||Last Monday at 7:04 AM|
"It's KING LEAR compared to the CHER SHOW"
Actually, r474, it's TWELFTH NIGHT
|by Anonymous||reply 501||Last Monday at 7:07 AM|
Are they going to tell Katrina Company is reopening or hope she doesn’t notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||Last Monday at 7:27 AM|
R498 Howard McGillin is also really tall and thin; he must be like 6' 3' or something when I met him years ago. He has a beautiful voice, though he does do something like a hoot owl sound near his passaggio (break area) of his voice, a very strange kind of "covering". It's kind of weird and whenever he sings this it's there; it sounds a little haunting, but that worked especially well for his Phantom.
|by Anonymous||reply 503||Last Monday at 7:32 AM|
I knew one of McGillin's old neighbors in Brooklyn who confirmed that he is a genuinely nice man.
|by Anonymous||reply 504||Last Monday at 7:39 AM|
He was wonderful in Drood which I saw twice in the park. Who could ever replace Rose in that show? An all around terrific cast.
|by Anonymous||reply 505||Last Monday at 7:45 AM|
Is Howard still with the young merch shopbottom he picked up at the St. James when he was doing The Secret Garden there?
|by Anonymous||reply 506||Last Monday at 7:45 AM|
Ahem. You meant to say "The James," R506.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||Last Monday at 7:47 AM|
Howard can't really act, which is why he was the best "Phantom."
|by Anonymous||reply 508||Last Monday at 7:54 AM|
Just watched the Hazel episode with Miss Diane Ladd. Did anyone see her in Lu Ann Hampton Laverty Oberlander?
|by Anonymous||reply 509||Last Monday at 8:02 AM|
Wow, I didn't realize how little McGillin has been on Broadway for having a nearly 40 year career. He does a lot of regional, though (and a lot of shows that never wind up coming in to Broadway).
McGillin can do light comedy very well and can sell a song. He absolutely should have been nominated for She Loves Me. He was a delight in that production. I've never seen him do anything non-musical, outside of the remake of Where the Boys Are, so I can't vouch for his acting skills outside of a musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 510||Last Monday at 8:07 AM|
Tickets for SIX went on sale today. $149 for Front Orchestra. Who do they think is going to pay that?
|by Anonymous||reply 511||Last Monday at 8:22 AM|
Isn't it practically a 6 person concert with some staging and costumes for like 90 minutes? Jeez.
|by Anonymous||reply 512||Last Monday at 8:31 AM|
There are rich people who were pissed that they didn't have much to spend all their money on during most of the pandemic. The folks whose pride of point is overpaying for things because they can. So some folks will pay $149 unfortunately. But maybe their numbers are fairly limited and finite.
|by Anonymous||reply 513||Last Monday at 8:32 AM|
Noel Coward, Alfred Lunt, Lynn Fontanne, Tammy Grimes--1970 TV
|by Anonymous||reply 514||Last Monday at 9:04 AM|
Didn't Holden Caulfield hate the Lunts? He thought they were "phony". But that was like his favorite criticism. Hopefully when he finally got laid, he found other words to use.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||Last Monday at 9:08 AM|
Bedford seems rather out of his element next to Grimes. She was enchanting.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||Last Monday at 9:11 AM|
[quote]They will not repeat not replace Latinx Olivo with white as snow boggess. do you think they're crazy????
The character, as originally portrayed by Nicole Kidman in the film, was snow-white. Olivo's casting was brown-washing.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||Last Monday at 9:41 AM|
From Noel Coward and the Lunts to.....SIX.
Broadway, we hardly know ye.
|by Anonymous||reply 518||Last Monday at 9:41 AM|
[quote]Could anyone tell if Chad was amongst the cast walking in to the theater? The camera was too far away for me.
He was not present for the filming, r497
|by Anonymous||reply 519||Last Monday at 10:12 AM|
I agree that MOULIN ROUGE producers will undoubtedly cast a BIPOC actress as Satine after Karen. They're just asking for social media mud to be flung if they don't.
The appearance of youth and hipness is one of the only thing that show has going for it, as it's actually neither of those things.
|by Anonymous||reply 520||Last Monday at 10:15 AM|
Rumor is SIX did $4,000,000 their first day. Lot's of people will pay $149. It's the same as dinner for two in an above average NYC restaurant. Know the territory, fool.
|by Anonymous||reply 521||Last Monday at 10:25 AM|
I wish Matt would fuck off with his constant T jokes. You are NOT FUNNY.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||Last Monday at 10:26 AM|
What’s a T joke R532?
|by Anonymous||reply 523||Last Monday at 11:03 AM|
[quote] Lot's of people will pay $149.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||Last Monday at 11:06 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 525||Last Monday at 11:12 AM|
Whhyyyyyy did Phantom not stay dead?
|by Anonymous||reply 526||Last Monday at 11:18 AM|
[quote]Also supposedly hugely hung as well.
There's no "supposedly" about it. Howard has a huge cock, which I've seen. And he also is a super nice guy. And he's also now a grandfather.
|by Anonymous||reply 527||Last Monday at 11:27 AM|
I though that poster was referring to Milky White/Chad "I will not worship from home"... I can't remember his surname.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||Last Monday at 11:31 AM|
[Quote] I can't remember his surname.
He played Special Needs in "Memphis." He was also in "Come From Away".... KIMBALL, that's it.
|by Anonymous||reply 529||Last Monday at 11:33 AM|
[quote] That In the Heights movie looks very ethnic.
Would you preferred they cast it with nothing but Osmonds.
|by Anonymous||reply 530||Last Monday at 12:00 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 531||Last Monday at 12:00 PM|
The ITH film is mostly nothing, it just lies there.
I do hope Chad is in the CFA film, I adore him, and find him an adventurous actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||Last Monday at 12:05 PM|
R530 I thought LMM whole schtick was colorblind casting, but it looks like he suddenly gives that up here?
|by Anonymous||reply 533||Last Monday at 12:10 PM|
R502 Alas, she - and Patti - are both confirmed to be returning.
R533 Isn't it actually colour-conscious casting? At least Hamilton certainly is.
|by Anonymous||reply 534||Last Monday at 12:15 PM|
Did you move?
|by Anonymous||reply 535||Last Monday at 12:17 PM|
Is "color-consciousness" why LMM felt the need to resurrect the Gay Villain trope with the casting of Jonathan Groff as one?
|by Anonymous||reply 536||Last Monday at 12:23 PM|
Excuse me, Uncletomathan Groff?
|by Anonymous||reply 537||Last Monday at 12:23 PM|
[quote]I do hope Chad [Kimball] is in the CFA [Come From Away}film, I adore him, and find him an adventurous actor.
He is not, r532. See r519
|by Anonymous||reply 538||Last Monday at 12:42 PM|
Howard McGillin is one of those rare performers I've also purposely sought out to see as a replacement in shows. His 'Phantom' was extraordinary - totally vulnerable yet over the top operatic when necessary. Really made the high romance Prince aimed for, work beautifully. And that very mix-y (hoot-y?) quality in his passaggio worked especially well for the character. I personally love the timbre of his voice - it's a lyric baritone/heroic tenor sound in the same tradition as John Raitt, who also had that mix-y quality.
His Jasper in DROOD, Billy in Anything Goes and Kodaly in She Loves Me were exceptional turns. And he was excellent in both Secret Garden and Kiss of the Spider Woman as well. I believe he now teaches at NYU Tisch. Here's a bit of his Kodaly (the Jack Cassidy part) from the '93 She Loves Me (starts around 6:41):
|by Anonymous||reply 539||Last Monday at 12:43 PM|
R533, his whole schtick? Um, the only play he did that with was Hamilton which came a few years after In the Heights.
|by Anonymous||reply 540||Last Monday at 2:10 PM|
I was told that Victor Garber was almost jealous of him. When he saw ANYTHING GOES, he said to his companion, "If that guy can dance, I'm going to kill myself."
|by Anonymous||reply 541||Last Monday at 3:17 PM|
[quote]Paul Alexander Nolan (from the flops Dr. Zhivago, JC Superstar, Bright Star and Margaritaville) is very handsome.
Paul has one of the hottest bods ever seen on Broadway, and his simulated sex scene in SLAVE PLAY was something to behold. But I have to say his face looks rather skeletal, sometimes more or less so depending on his weight at the time, maybe also his hair style. I wish I had gotten to see him onstage when he was considerably younger, I imagine this was less of an issue back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||Last Monday at 4:02 PM|
'Howard has a huge cock, which I've seen.'
|by Anonymous||reply 543||Last Monday at 4:06 PM|
I concur with R543
|by Anonymous||reply 544||Last Monday at 4:09 PM|
Victor Garber's an excellent actor, very good looking, though I wish his singing were more than adequate.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||Last Monday at 4:12 PM|
Paul is handsome but to say he has “one of the hottest bods ever seen on Broadway” is MARY! to the nth. I suppose it depends on your tastes, but Ramin, Nick Adams and Juan Castano (has he ever been on Broadway?) are certainly much more the “buff bro” ideal as far as leading men go. We could also include Hugh Jackman, Sebastian Stan and Chris Evans, if we want to count movie stars doing a short run in a lead role.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||Last Monday at 6:08 PM|
Speaking of Sebastian and Chris, all these re-opening announcements makes it feel like when everybody re-emerged at the end of Avengers: Endgame. I know, I know ... MARY!
|by Anonymous||reply 547||Last Monday at 6:40 PM|
So lion King, Hamilton and wicked are making a joint announcement tomorrow on good morning America. Do you think they have come up with something special?
|by Anonymous||reply 548||Last Monday at 6:50 PM|
Yes- We suck and we're ready to embrace it.
|by Anonymous||reply 549||Last Monday at 6:53 PM|
They've decided to become one great-big super show about politics, lions and witches.
|by Anonymous||reply 550||Last Monday at 6:59 PM|
Okay, maybe I exaggerated a little bit about Paul Alexander Nolan, but I do think he has a hot bod. Here's some evidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 551||Last Monday at 7:54 PM|
The Skivvies tend to have some of the hottest Broadway guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 552||Last Monday at 7:56 PM|
[quote]They've decided to become one great-big super show about politics, lions and witches.
THE LION, THE WITCH, AND THE WAISTCOAT
|by Anonymous||reply 553||Last Monday at 8:09 PM|
[quote]Yeah, and it's about to be canceled.
Cheyenne's sitcom was renewed for another season.
|by Anonymous||reply 554||Last Monday at 8:15 PM|
[quote]why LMM felt the need to resurrect the Gay Villain trope
No! no! It's not resurrecting the gay villain, R536, it's the return of the [italic]sissy[/italic].
|by Anonymous||reply 555||Last Monday at 9:18 PM|
I too can vouch for Howard McGillin. Incredibly nice guy without a whiff of pretension.
I cannot vouch for his huge cock. But I have heard that rumor before, and I believe it. His husband is a lucky man.
|by Anonymous||reply 556||Last Monday at 10:35 PM|
It’s nice for Cheyenne and Blossom that their horrible, antiquated and stupid sitcom is renewed, but let’s count Covid fatigue and “a return to normalcy” in that decision. The British original is actually quite fun and engaging in its way. But, hey, it can’t always be “Amanda’s (By The Sea)” as far as half-assed British sitcom remakes go.
|by Anonymous||reply 557||Last Monday at 11:50 PM|
[quote] Is "color-consciousness" why LMM felt the need to resurrect the Gay Villain trope with the casting of Jonathan Groff as one?
No r536 since the role was created by Brian d'Arcy James
|by Anonymous||reply 558||Last Tuesday at 3:23 AM|
Why is it okay to have an all-black cast in a play or movie, but unacceptable to have an all-white cast as well? It makes no sense, since whites are still the great majority in America.
|by Anonymous||reply 559||Last Tuesday at 3:38 AM|
McGillin sings well and can act with his voice but not the rest of his body. watch his awkwardness in his body and his arms & hands in numbers like "You're The Top" but his Kodaly was great for some reason and Gavin Creel should have studied it more closely. And no r506 Mcgillin isn't with that Torres guy he left his wife for, now his with some Proskauer lawyer
|by Anonymous||reply 560||Last Tuesday at 3:42 AM|
R559, what are you talking about?
Has anyone said any of this? What all black play are you talking about? What all white play?
|by Anonymous||reply 561||Last Tuesday at 4:21 AM|
Wow R557, I did not know 'Call Me Kat' was a remake of 'Miranda.' No wonder it looks so bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 562||Last Tuesday at 4:22 AM|
That isn't infamous theatrical lawyer Mark Sendroff in that photo with McGillin at r560, is it? If so, I'm sure they're merely friends, not lovers.
|by Anonymous||reply 563||Last Tuesday at 5:04 AM|
Howard is tall and lanky which always equals awkward body movements but he’s surprisingly graceful.
|by Anonymous||reply 564||Last Tuesday at 5:25 AM|
no r563 its Richard Sampson and they're married I think
|by Anonymous||reply 565||Last Tuesday at 5:33 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 566||Last Tuesday at 5:35 AM|
Is there a separate thread for dinner theater gossip?
|by Anonymous||reply 567||Last Tuesday at 5:56 AM|
Are some posters here under the impression that everyone in HAMILTON except King George (the Groff character) is African-American?
|by Anonymous||reply 568||Last Tuesday at 6:06 AM|
This is interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 569||Last Tuesday at 6:27 AM|
Who wants to gossip about dinner theater(s)? Are there any remaining? Who possibly cares?
|by Anonymous||reply 570||Last Tuesday at 7:52 AM|
A link from triblive, the evil conservative Richard Mellon Scaife rag? Hmmmph.
|by Anonymous||reply 571||Last Tuesday at 7:56 AM|
Would gossip about Sally Struthers, for example, go under a dinner theatre thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 572||Last Tuesday at 7:56 AM|
Kids, there are no more dinner theaters.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||Last Tuesday at 7:57 AM|
You haven't lived until you've seen FOLLIES at an in-the-round dinner theater!
|by Anonymous||reply 574||Last Tuesday at 8:02 AM|
I saw McGillin a lot on TV when he was a contract player. I thought he could've had a good career but followed his heart to Broadway. I really hadn't even thought of him much until this thread but he does have less charisma than Cheyenne. He's sort of like John McMartin, pleasant but forgettable.
|by Anonymous||reply 575||Last Tuesday at 8:05 AM|
[quote]I saw McGillin a lot on TV when he was a contract player.
What do you mean? A contract player? Where?
|by Anonymous||reply 576||Last Tuesday at 8:16 AM|
More about Howard's huge hog, please.
|by Anonymous||reply 577||Last Tuesday at 8:36 AM|
Didn't Prince say McMartin gave the greatest performance he saw as Ben in Follies? I saw him in it a couple times and thought he was ok but I was very young.
And I would have given the Tony to Collins not Smith. I thought 2GOV was terrific. Enormous fun. I wish I could see that production again. So much joy that hasn't been seen on Broadway in God knows how many years. Still I don't know how it won Best Musical over Follies. We were so lucky back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||Last Tuesday at 8:47 AM|
What's going on with Plaza Suite? Are SJP and Mathew pulling out?
|by Anonymous||reply 579||Last Tuesday at 8:51 AM|
[quote]You haven't lived until you've seen FOLLIES at an in-the-round dinner theater!
I saw "Titanic" at an in-the-round dinner theater in Maryland.
|by Anonymous||reply 580||Last Tuesday at 9:20 AM|
How about "Sweeney Todd" at a dinner theater?
|by Anonymous||reply 581||Last Tuesday at 10:12 AM|
This was probably a bit more properly environmental, r580....
|by Anonymous||reply 582||Last Tuesday at 10:24 AM|
I always thought "dinner theatre" was how Linda Lavin approached acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||Last Tuesday at 10:29 AM|
I thought the Beef n Boards was still tap, tap, tappin' in the Midwest.
|by Anonymous||reply 584||Last Tuesday at 10:33 AM|
Shows like PLAZA SUITE and MOULIN ROUGE really can't open until they can sell and seat to capacity. Otherwise, they won't make any money.
|by Anonymous||reply 585||Last Tuesday at 2:31 PM|
Coming attractions with Carol Ann...
|by Anonymous||reply 586||Last Tuesday at 2:38 PM|
Anyone purchase tickets to any of the reopening shows yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 587||Last Tuesday at 2:40 PM|
I've seen Howard's cock, what more is there to say? Along with the rest of his body. It was not a sexual situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||Last Tuesday at 3:00 PM|
YouTube just algorithmed me a video from the UK [italic]Dreamgirls[/italic] tour. Three women split the role of Effie???
|by Anonymous||reply 589||Last Tuesday at 3:14 PM|
yes, because Gen Z believes doing 8 shows a week is white supremacy.
|by Anonymous||reply 590||Last Tuesday at 5:14 PM|
More re-opening announcements coming tomorrow?
|by Anonymous||reply 591||Last Tuesday at 8:07 PM|
They should talk to the Yankees first.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||Last Tuesday at 9:22 PM|
I can’t wait not to wear a mask and sip my $40 Chardonnay (double pour) when I come to see these shows on big Broadaway... my hubs is taking the kids tonight (at the hotel), but tonight is all about me, gays. After the show I’m thinking of going to that place Marie’s Crisis cuz they don’t believe in masks or all that either and I can get lit up with my gays. Can we do a duet on a Phantom song? Please dm me.
|by Anonymous||reply 593||Last Tuesday at 10:21 PM|
Re the theory stated by r590—elders, Do you recall reports of Miss Jennifer holiday not doing eight a week in her initial run? I do not, but I am A few minutes shy of elderhood.
|by Anonymous||reply 594||Last Wednesday at 2:40 AM|
[quote]I am A few minutes shy of elderhood.
That state of being absolutely does not exist.
|by Anonymous||reply 595||Last Wednesday at 2:58 AM|
The only thing I'll own is your ass while I'm smashing it like a teenager.
—Take It, Twink
|by Anonymous||reply 596||Last Wednesday at 3:09 AM|
[quote] After the show I’m thinking of going to that place Marie’s Crisis cuz they don’t believe in masks or all that either and I can get lit up with my gays.
I hate to break this to you, but Marie’s Crisis is no longer a gay bar. The straights have taken it over.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||Last Wednesday at 3:59 AM|
Closing this thread out ...
|by Anonymous||reply 598||Last Wednesday at 4:18 AM|
Rachael Lily Rosenbloom!
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