People who are *CHEAP* NOT Frugal

Yes, this is a rant, but y’all know who I am talking about!

Your story has become tiresome

OP, nobody can stop you from living above your means, but stop trying to get other people to live above theirs.

[quote] At dinner, cutting up the receipt at the table while we’re still out trying to enjoy ourselves because “I only ate this much and had one drink, so I am only paying.”

How annoying. One person pays, and if it's really that much of an issue, others can Venmo that person afterwards. What a headache for the servers.

Aren't YOU the cheap one, since you're sharing an Airbnb with multiple people? Are you still in college?

I once dated a guy who wore fake diamonds! Talk about tacky. We laughed at him on the yacht.

Wait. OP, you would actually have preferred to go to Miami in AUGUST? Not that Houston's much better...the problem I see is mainly with the destination choices, not with the budget.

I can sort of agree with OP here. Frugal is being responsible and going on a vacation or a getaway when you can afford it, otherwise decline all together.

Never ever travel with people that don’t want to live or spend like you want to. All will be miserable

One bathroom for five is second world living. I’d rather travel solo than travel like I’m backpacking thru Europe.

You sound poor.

cheap often crosses into the territory of users.

but the same applies to high maintenance.

neither are particularly pleasant on group outings or trips.

of course, if you're h.m then you think everyone is cheap.

if you're cheap, then everyone else is high maintenance. ..

and there's only one solution.

caged death match... and have the victor arrrested for murder.

Frugal is when it affects you, only.

Cheap is when it affects someone else.

Anyway, when traveling with friend(s), I've decided to get my own room for now on. Last time I traveled with a friend, there was a snoring issue (not me) and this friend also could not sleep in the dark (needed the bathroom light to be on). More stuff than that, but that was enough. (I need my sleep on vacation.)

20% is outrageous!

Agree with R7. Only an idiot goes to Miami or Houston in summer.

Also, OP: Is this what you consider "travel?" Suburban shit-holes in your own country? Miami has some tourism appeal if you have money - and it sounds like you and your friends do not - but Houston? Not even the Astronauts want to live there.

Real travel costs real money. You're on the right track, but let's not pretend you're Dickie Greenleaf to begin with. Wait until you're planning a trip to Rio or The Maldives or Norway with friends of yours. Then you'll really know who's a cheap cunt!

OP, if you and/or your friends have to share a suite to afford stay in another city, you really have no business traveling together. You need to make more money so you can each afford your own room.

The answer to the problem with the restaurant bill is for everyone to ask for separate checks at the beginning of ther evening. it's almost never a problem anymore at most restaurants in the US & Canada (or in northern Europe, for that matter).

This is from a year ago. How did your trips go, OP?

Cheap is booking someone to do you a professional job, then either cancelling the booking last-minute or refusing to pay/comp fairly for services rendered. Unless of course the services rendered were shoddy, and you have grounds for complaint. Otherwise, CHEAP.