Take 2.5 minutes and watch this amazing dance scene from the 1936 musical comedy "Swing Time." Astaire and Rogers will definitely put a smile on your face.
Amazing and uplifting dance number!
|by BAIHH||reply 53||Last Saturday at 8:00 AM|
And this waltz is in the same movie. Such elegance! My favorite part is 1:25-1:46.
|by BAIHH||reply 1||05/03/2021|
"Swing Time" is one of the greatest movies if you like watching Fred and Ginger dance.
|by BAIHH||reply 2||05/03/2021|
Fred had so much pussy back then! He was a whore!
|by BAIHH||reply 3||05/03/2021|
[quote] Fred had so much pussy back then! He was a whore!
Is that all you have to say?
|by BAIHH||reply 4||05/03/2021|
Frau alert @ r4.
|by BAIHH||reply 5||05/03/2021|
As advertised, I did smile. And that was in one take.
|by BAIHH||reply 6||05/03/2021|
Yes, amazing that they did that in one take!
|by BAIHH||reply 7||05/03/2021|
I love 1:38-1:47! Ginger lifting her skirt to show her legs is so good!!
|by BAIHH||reply 8||05/03/2021|
|by BAIHH||reply 9||05/03/2021|
where have all the flowers gone
|by BAIHH||reply 10||05/03/2021|
This, as best I can tell, is the process:
1. Record the music and any vocals in a recording studio.
2. On the movie set, while the cameras roll, the actors must synchronize their singing or dancing to the audio playback of the recorded song (obviously over a loudspeaker so they can hear it). Because of the ambient music playback, none of the sound from the set can be used in the finished film.
3. During the film editing stage, the original studio recording must be synched to the cut film.
4. And here's the tricky part, after the music is added to the film, the actor/dancer must go to a Foley studio and record a tap track on a wooden floor and perfectly match the image on the screen for a clean sound. It's interesting to imagine a Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly or the Nicholas Brothers trying to recreate in sound what they see themselves doing on screen. Anyway, I hope a few of you find this info of interest.
|by BAIHH||reply 11||05/03/2021|
Another fabulous number. I've held this dress and it is heavy as fuck.
|by BAIHH||reply 12||05/03/2021|
R12: How did you get to hold this dress? Has anyone noticed that it is see-through?
|by BAIHH||reply 13||05/03/2021|
In the 1990s, I knew a gentlemen who owned it and several other film costumes. As I recall, the material was threaded with metal or something. It wasn't sequins or bugle beads. The sheerness wasn't apparent unless the bright lights were behind it. At least it looked very solid under normal lighting.
|by BAIHH||reply 14||05/03/2021|
Very cool, R12!
|by BAIHH||reply 15||05/03/2021|
This really did make me smile! Thank you, OP!
|by BAIHH||reply 16||05/03/2021|
I smiled, thanks for sharing OP.
|by BAIHH||reply 17||05/03/2021|
[quote]And that was in one take.
If it were in one take, they wouldn't have cut to those lame reaction shots.
|by BAIHH||reply 18||05/03/2021|
Is it true that Hermes Pan dubbed Ginger's taps because they were off?
|by BAIHH||reply 19||05/03/2021|
R18, "Waltz in Swing Time" is the number that was filmed in one take. "Pick Yourself Up" obviously was not. (I agree about the lame reaction shots.)
|by BAIHH||reply 20||05/03/2021|
R18, oh you’re right, there were a couple of cuts. But still, the stretch after that last reaction shot is impressive. I thought about the dance routines on DWTS, and maybe they do have longer bits. And maybe I’m romanticizing, but Fred and Ginger really did make it look effortless and fun.
|by BAIHH||reply 21||05/03/2021|
Yes, the Waltz in Swing Time was shot in one take.
|by BAIHH||reply 22||05/04/2021|
Love how Ginger tosses her hair back at 1:25—1:26.
|by BAIHH||reply 23||05/04/2021|
|by BAIHH||reply 24||05/04/2021|
If they made this today it would have to star some nappy haired girl like Zendaya because..100% representation despite 13% population.
|by BAIHH||reply 25||05/04/2021|
The kind of brilliant art we no longer have (See LA LA Land).
|by BAIHH||reply 26||05/04/2021|
These clips are an inspiration.
My downstairs neighbors hate tap dancing which is why I have to do all my moves in the hallway on my way to the trash chute.
|by BAIHH||reply 27||05/04/2021|
The piece of lint on the bottom of the screen was the *real* star!
|by BAIHH||reply 28||05/04/2021|
Whenever I feel blue I watch Fred & Ginger. Instant upper.
|by BAIHH||reply 29||05/04/2021|
I love this number, it is my favorite! Fred and Ginger were a great romantic dance team. Thanks for posting and for all the information from the posters!
|by BAIHH||reply 30||05/04/2021|
Can't even have a thread about a Fred and Ginger routine without some asshole inserting a racist remark.
|by BAIHH||reply 31||05/04/2021|
R25 has been reported.
|by BAIHH||reply 32||05/04/2021|
Just seeing this. This is my favorite FA/GR movie. Thanks for making me smile on this otherwise dreary day.
|by BAIHH||reply 33||Last Wednesday at 12:18 PM|
I can dance way better than that. Just sayin'.
|by BAIHH||reply 34||Last Thursday at 3:04 PM|
R11 I don't understand.
Are you saying that the sound has been faked to get perfect synchronisation between the two performers?
|by BAIHH||reply 35||Last Thursday at 3:13 PM|
My 92 year old dad cannot stand watching Fred Astaire. If an old film of his comes on TV, he immediately turns it off.
I asked him why and he said he was fed up of seeing him when he went to the movies as a child.
|by BAIHH||reply 36||Last Thursday at 3:18 PM|
R36 Did you dad think Fred Austerlitz was as sexy as Minnie Mouse and Ginger looked like a linebacker?
He can't deny they danced well.
|by BAIHH||reply 37||Last Thursday at 3:21 PM|
[quote]Are you saying that the sound has been faked to get perfect synchronisation between the two performers?
I don't understand what in particular you don't understand.
|by BAIHH||reply 38||Last Thursday at 4:27 PM|
R38 The soundtrack has been faked to get the two performers synchronised.
|by BAIHH||reply 39||Last Thursday at 4:51 PM|
What do you mean faked? The music was prerecorded, they danced to a playback so that their dancing is in synch with the music and then the music and image are merged in post-production. What's fake about that? Musical films are still made exactly the same way.
Did you think the music and the picture are recorded at the same time? That happens only in very rare situations.
|by BAIHH||reply 40||Last Friday at 12:00 AM|
I'm tapping all the way to the coffee maker this am.
|by BAIHH||reply 41||Last Friday at 12:03 AM|
R35, that's how all musical numbers are filmed. It's not so the two dancers can be synchronized. It's because you can't mic performers while they're dancing. (Or at least you couldn't in those days.) That's because if the mics were close enough to get good sound, they'd be visible in the shot. So they prerecorded the music and played it back on a loudspeaker for the performers to dance to while they filmed. The tap or other dancing sound effects would be added in post-production.
|by BAIHH||reply 42||Last Friday at 12:05 AM|
You can fix an entire movie in post!
|by BAIHH||reply 43||Last Friday at 12:26 AM|
[quote]It's not so the two dancers can be synchronized.
Of course it is. Do you think they can just dance in silence and then have it fit exactly to the music when it's added?
[quote]It's because you can't mic performers while they're dancing.
[quote]Of course you can. The earliest sound films did exactly that but it sounded like shit. That's why someone came up with the idea of recording sound and picture separately.
|by BAIHH||reply 44||Last Friday at 12:27 AM|
"I'll be Hard to Handle" was supposed to have been recorded live and in one take--the first take. You can hear Ginger giggle during it.
|by BAIHH||reply 45||Last Friday at 1:11 AM|
Fred with a "ginger" who's a better dancer.
|by BAIHH||reply 46||Last Friday at 7:58 AM|
Such a fun number, R45!
|by BAIHH||reply 47||Last Friday at 9:49 AM|
'Sure he was great, but don't forget that Ginger Rogers did everything he did…backwards and in high heels.’ - Bob Thaves
|by BAIHH||reply 48||Last Friday at 10:28 AM|
R44, I thought R35 was referring to the two dancers synchronizing with each other, not the music. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Also, you're right. With modern wireless technology it is possible to mic a musical number live, but it won't look or sound as good as it would if the sound were added in post-production with music that was recorded in a soundproof studio.
|by BAIHH||reply 49||Last Friday at 11:25 PM|
Fantastic. Thanks for sharing OP!!
|by BAIHH||reply 50||Last Friday at 11:45 PM|
[quote]'Sure he was great, but don't forget that Ginger Rogers did everything he did…backwards and in high heels.’ - Bob Thaves
That remark has been attributed to a number of people, including Ginger herself, Dorothy Parker, Pauline Kael and many others. Doesn't matter, it's not true, and in reality he always lead. Which she resented.
She was good but not his best partner and they didn't hate or unappreciate each other but both were glad when their RKO contracts expired and they could go on individually to other things.
|by BAIHH||reply 51||Last Saturday at 1:26 AM|
"She gave him sex appeal and he gave her class" was the line that went around back in the day.
|by BAIHH||reply 52||Last Saturday at 1:29 AM|
[quote]She was good but not his best partner and they didn't hate or unappreciate each other but both were glad when their RKO contracts expired and they could go on individually to other things.
By 1949, Ginger was thrilled to be asked to replace Judy Garland and, after 10 years, reunite with Fred in "The Barkleys of Broadway."
|by BAIHH||reply 53||Last Saturday at 8:00 AM|