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What happened to Shawn Raymond?

He disappeared after going to a gay bar. He was 19 and just coming out.

Years later his skull was found, but not the rest of his body

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by Anonymousreply 4205/04/2021

He dead.

by Anonymousreply 105/01/2021

How the fuck would we know, OP?

by Anonymousreply 205/01/2021

Is this a trick question?

[italic]I never even met the brat!

by Anonymousreply 305/01/2021

I'm ready to investigate with you, OP! Got nothing else planned tonight. Let's compare notes! I adore a gay murder mystery.

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by Anonymousreply 405/01/2021

Some queen out there knows.

by Anonymousreply 505/01/2021

He looks like the guy from Melrose Place.

by Anonymousreply 605/01/2021

He was an attractive guy

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by Anonymousreply 705/01/2021

Is there an Unsolved Mysteries episode?

by Anonymousreply 805/01/2021

I’m a year and a half younger than he would be, and I grew up in metro Detroit. I went to Menjos in the mid-80s, and I can attest to just how sketchy and crime ridden the area around Menjos was. If he didn’t park in the attended bar parking lot, there is a good chance he was mugged and killed.

by Anonymousreply 905/01/2021

Someone kilt him is what happened.

by Anonymousreply 1005/01/2021

[quote]OP: Years later his skull was found, but not the rest of his body

I was so tired I couldn't tell the trophy from what went into the swamp.

So sue me.

by Anonymousreply 1105/01/2021

Maybe he transitioned and has been know for decades as "Shawna".

by Anonymousreply 1205/01/2021

Where was Dahmer then?

by Anonymousreply 1305/02/2021

Did anyone check Amanda’s crawlspace?

by Anonymousreply 1405/02/2021

" Shawn had also recently come out as gay to his mother and was learning how to become comfortable with his identity." - Pretty sure back then people talked in terms of their sexuality rather than their "identity".

by Anonymousreply 1505/02/2021

Go-go boy audition at Menjos that went tragically wrong.

by Anonymousreply 1605/02/2021

Perhaps his headless body is still alive roaming around somewhere. There’s always hope.

by Anonymousreply 1705/02/2021

Major BDF. Actually... no.

by Anonymousreply 1805/02/2021

I graduated high school in 1985. Those photos remind me of myself back then. I remember graduating high school, moving out of my home, going to college, having jobs, going to gay bars, struggling with my sexuality, all in the mid-80’s in America. I remember very well what the world was like back then. It was so long ago. This poor guy’s life was snuffed out back then, with so much ahead of him. What a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 1905/02/2021

Why is this a topic now? Has there been a recent breakthrough, or a feature in some television program?


Does OP know something...

...he’s trying to get off his chest....??


by Anonymousreply 2005/02/2021

R20, are you also going to attack all the people who start threads about JonBenet Ramsey or other murder victims from the past? Will you accuse them of being murderers, too?

by Anonymousreply 2105/02/2021

There seem to be about 5 web sleuths on DL who post about murder and disappearance cases.

These mystery death stans outnumber the dish queens on DL, nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 2205/02/2021

[quote]R21 are you also going to attack all the people who start threads about JonBenet Ramsey or other murder victims from the past? Will you accuse them of being murderers, too? — OP

This is exactly what a guilty person would say.

by Anonymousreply 2305/02/2021

[quote]Where was Dahmer then?

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Highly unlikely, R13. The victim wasn't Dahmer's type.

The perp(s) may not have been gay at all, but homophobic killers hunting gays.

by Anonymousreply 2405/02/2021

R23 is the Zodiac Killer

by Anonymousreply 2505/02/2021

I disagree, R24. If it had been a typical gay bashing or simple mugging, then the killer(s) would have simply left the body where it was. Removal and decapitation is a hallmark of a serial killer. I'd bet he was picked up in or near the bar, abused and killed, and then disposed of in pieces. Hopefully the perp is dead or behind bars forever -no one deserves that kind of end.

by Anonymousreply 2605/02/2021

I think the skull is a clue. I hope they bagged it.

by Anonymousreply 2705/02/2021

[quote]Removal and decapitation is a hallmark of a serial killer.

We don't know that decapitation took place, R26 - all we know is that he was dumped in a river, and that his skull was found nine years later. Normal decomposition and water currents could well have separated the skull from the rest of the body.

Serial killers don't own a patent on river-dumping.

by Anonymousreply 2805/02/2021

R27 Well. he wanted someone to fuck his brains out.

by Anonymousreply 2905/02/2021

OP types fat.

by Anonymousreply 3005/02/2021

OP knows.

by Anonymousreply 3105/02/2021

R31 knows

by Anonymousreply 3205/02/2021

R32 are you OP?

by Anonymousreply 3305/02/2021

I supposed you geniuses ruled out suicide?

by Anonymousreply 3405/02/2021

It may have been Herb Baumeister

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by Anonymousreply 3505/02/2021

Harrison county is several hours north of the Detroit area.

by Anonymousreply 3605/02/2021

He was lovely and sounded like a great guy

by Anonymousreply 3705/02/2021

[quote] I supposed you geniuses ruled out suicide?

Not at all. Decapitation is a common way to commit suicide as we all know.

by Anonymousreply 3805/03/2021

Suicide is a possibility, but a very unlikely one considering what we know of his personality, his history, the area he disappeared in, and where he was known to be heading the night he vanished.

by Anonymousreply 3905/03/2021

It's a disgrace he does have his own Wikipedia page

by Anonymousreply 4005/03/2021

Does NOT have

by Anonymousreply 4105/03/2021

[quote]Decapitation is a common way to commit suicide as we all know.

Again, R38, there is no evidence of "decapitation."

by Anonymousreply 4205/04/2021
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