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What happened to Shawn Raymond?

He disappeared after going to a gay bar. He was 19 and just coming out.

Years later his skull was found, but not the rest of his body

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by Anonymousreply 42May 4, 2021 4:34 PM

He dead.

by Anonymousreply 1May 2, 2021 12:13 AM

How the fuck would we know, OP?

by Anonymousreply 2May 2, 2021 12:17 AM

Is this a trick question?

[italic]I never even met the brat!

by Anonymousreply 3May 2, 2021 12:27 AM

I'm ready to investigate with you, OP! Got nothing else planned tonight. Let's compare notes! I adore a gay murder mystery.

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by Anonymousreply 4May 2, 2021 12:31 AM

Some queen out there knows.

by Anonymousreply 5May 2, 2021 12:46 AM

He looks like the guy from Melrose Place.

by Anonymousreply 6May 2, 2021 1:14 AM

He was an attractive guy

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by Anonymousreply 7May 2, 2021 1:59 AM

Is there an Unsolved Mysteries episode?

by Anonymousreply 8May 2, 2021 2:25 AM

I’m a year and a half younger than he would be, and I grew up in metro Detroit. I went to Menjos in the mid-80s, and I can attest to just how sketchy and crime ridden the area around Menjos was. If he didn’t park in the attended bar parking lot, there is a good chance he was mugged and killed.

by Anonymousreply 9May 2, 2021 3:14 AM

Someone kilt him is what happened.

by Anonymousreply 10May 2, 2021 3:17 AM

[quote]OP: Years later his skull was found, but not the rest of his body

I was so tired I couldn't tell the trophy from what went into the swamp.

So sue me.

by Anonymousreply 11May 2, 2021 3:29 AM

Maybe he transitioned and has been know for decades as "Shawna".

by Anonymousreply 12May 2, 2021 7:28 AM

Where was Dahmer then?

by Anonymousreply 13May 2, 2021 9:22 AM

Did anyone check Amanda’s crawlspace?

by Anonymousreply 14May 2, 2021 9:54 AM

" Shawn had also recently come out as gay to his mother and was learning how to become comfortable with his identity." - Pretty sure back then people talked in terms of their sexuality rather than their "identity".

by Anonymousreply 15May 2, 2021 9:56 AM

Go-go boy audition at Menjos that went tragically wrong.

by Anonymousreply 16May 2, 2021 10:44 AM

Perhaps his headless body is still alive roaming around somewhere. There’s always hope.

by Anonymousreply 17May 2, 2021 10:46 AM

Major BDF. Actually... no.

by Anonymousreply 18May 2, 2021 10:47 AM

I graduated high school in 1985. Those photos remind me of myself back then. I remember graduating high school, moving out of my home, going to college, having jobs, going to gay bars, struggling with my sexuality, all in the mid-80’s in America. I remember very well what the world was like back then. It was so long ago. This poor guy’s life was snuffed out back then, with so much ahead of him. What a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 19May 2, 2021 10:51 AM

Why is this a topic now? Has there been a recent breakthrough, or a feature in some television program?

Or....

Does OP know something...

...he’s trying to get off his chest....??

Creepy.

by Anonymousreply 20May 2, 2021 12:41 PM

R20, are you also going to attack all the people who start threads about JonBenet Ramsey or other murder victims from the past? Will you accuse them of being murderers, too?

by Anonymousreply 21May 2, 2021 3:40 PM

There seem to be about 5 web sleuths on DL who post about murder and disappearance cases.

These mystery death stans outnumber the dish queens on DL, nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 22May 2, 2021 3:50 PM

[quote]R21 are you also going to attack all the people who start threads about JonBenet Ramsey or other murder victims from the past? Will you accuse them of being murderers, too? — OP

This is exactly what a guilty person would say.

by Anonymousreply 23May 2, 2021 3:54 PM

[quote]Where was Dahmer then?

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Highly unlikely, R13. The victim wasn't Dahmer's type.

The perp(s) may not have been gay at all, but homophobic killers hunting gays.

by Anonymousreply 24May 2, 2021 4:32 PM

R23 is the Zodiac Killer

by Anonymousreply 25May 2, 2021 4:38 PM

I disagree, R24. If it had been a typical gay bashing or simple mugging, then the killer(s) would have simply left the body where it was. Removal and decapitation is a hallmark of a serial killer. I'd bet he was picked up in or near the bar, abused and killed, and then disposed of in pieces. Hopefully the perp is dead or behind bars forever -no one deserves that kind of end.

by Anonymousreply 26May 2, 2021 4:48 PM

I think the skull is a clue. I hope they bagged it.

by Anonymousreply 27May 2, 2021 4:51 PM

[quote]Removal and decapitation is a hallmark of a serial killer.

We don't know that decapitation took place, R26 - all we know is that he was dumped in a river, and that his skull was found nine years later. Normal decomposition and water currents could well have separated the skull from the rest of the body.

Serial killers don't own a patent on river-dumping.

by Anonymousreply 28May 2, 2021 4:53 PM

R27 Well. he wanted someone to fuck his brains out.

by Anonymousreply 29May 2, 2021 4:55 PM

OP types fat.

by Anonymousreply 30May 2, 2021 7:27 PM

OP knows.

by Anonymousreply 31May 2, 2021 7:37 PM

R31 knows

by Anonymousreply 32May 2, 2021 7:39 PM

R32 are you OP?

by Anonymousreply 33May 2, 2021 7:41 PM

I supposed you geniuses ruled out suicide?

by Anonymousreply 34May 2, 2021 8:07 PM

It may have been Herb Baumeister

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by Anonymousreply 35May 3, 2021 4:46 AM

Harrison county is several hours north of the Detroit area.

by Anonymousreply 36May 3, 2021 5:19 AM

He was lovely and sounded like a great guy

by Anonymousreply 37May 3, 2021 7:23 AM

[quote] I supposed you geniuses ruled out suicide?

Not at all. Decapitation is a common way to commit suicide as we all know.

by Anonymousreply 38May 3, 2021 8:09 AM

Suicide is a possibility, but a very unlikely one considering what we know of his personality, his history, the area he disappeared in, and where he was known to be heading the night he vanished.

by Anonymousreply 39May 3, 2021 11:38 AM

It's a disgrace he does have his own Wikipedia page

by Anonymousreply 40May 3, 2021 12:28 PM

Does NOT have

by Anonymousreply 41May 3, 2021 12:28 PM

[quote]Decapitation is a common way to commit suicide as we all know.

Again, R38, there is no evidence of "decapitation."

by Anonymousreply 42May 4, 2021 4:34 PM
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