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Gio Ponti was the greatest European designer of the 20th century.

Prove. Me. Wrong.

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by Anonymousreply 7005/04/2021

Eero Saarinen, while famous for his US designs, is European-born and a better designer.

by Anonymousreply 104/20/2021

His work looks like he shopped at Target.

by Anonymousreply 204/20/2021

Well, to begin with, everything in OP’s photo is ugly.

by Anonymousreply 304/20/2021
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by Anonymousreply 405/02/2021

It’s kind of a sparse, Eurotrash aesthetic (?)

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by Anonymousreply 505/02/2021

^ I'm sceptical of everything from the Guardian.

They're the fools that said Male Road Designers were killing Female Pedestrians.

by Anonymousreply 605/02/2021

The floor here’s striking. A bit too mod for my taste, but... really, that aside, this room is hardly special:

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by Anonymousreply 705/02/2021

Marcel Breuer's better.

by Anonymousreply 805/02/2021

I dont expect DL to appreciate him, as most of you have old grandma tastes. Next.

by Anonymousreply 905/02/2021

R9 Gio Ponti is as old as our grandma.

by Anonymousreply 1005/02/2021

The OP's link is a website called jerkoff.

by Anonymousreply 1105/02/2021

He had a hot ashtray, but he couldn’t live forever.

by Anonymousreply 1205/02/2021

Then let it stay in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 1305/02/2021

Vico Magistretti. Cini Boeri. Saarinen. At least ten are better.

by Anonymousreply 1405/02/2021

Dieter Rams. Ettore Sotsass. Both Vignelli's. I could go on. Gio Ponti is top ten. Inventing modernism sees to ignore the Bauhaus completely. Revisionism.

by Anonymousreply 1505/02/2021

R7 looks like the childrens' and YA section of your local public library.

by Anonymousreply 1605/02/2021

R16 I thought exactly the same thing.

'Modern' designers insisted they were living in the Century of The Common Man.

Therefore they celebrated cheap, factory-made design using cheap materials. No hand-made furniture or William Morris craftsmanship at all!

R7's picture reminds me of the pictures of my local public library which was built in the 1950s and demolished in the early 1990s..

by Anonymousreply 1705/02/2021

Wiki tells me Gio Ponti did toilet pedestals and some hideous Brutalist monstrosities.

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by Anonymousreply 1805/02/2021

r9 I collect avant-garde furniture. That particular picture has the Gio Ponti stuff in a 1980's Memphis-esque scheme. Not the way he would arrange anything. Let's talk about any of the Scarpa family. Afra and Tobia, any of them.

Gio Ponti was a fantastic lamp designer.

DL has bad taste. That Gio Ponti designs public library childrens furniture is such a funny and retarded idea.

by Anonymousreply 1905/02/2021

Gio Ponti designs can be easily replicated by cheap copyists in Taiwan and Malaysia and shipped to Walmart.

by Anonymousreply 2005/02/2021

r18 It's a Willy Guhl planter. Brutalism isn't what you think, and Gio Ponti had very little to do with brutalism, which was mostly French and American. Look at his lamps. They are anything but dark or depressing.

by Anonymousreply 2105/02/2021

r20 Troll. Have you ever owned a serious piece of modernist furniture in your life? The knock offs are gross, just to rip off poor people. The materials are fake (they can't do laminate, it's too expensive), and the proportions are always off. Wrong. The exposed parts are always too shiny and finished, and the bottoms are completely unfinished. There are exposed bolts.

Knoll, Gavina, any of the Moblers, buy yourself a real piece of furniture. Not fake stickley Target shit. Grow up. Get some taste, some style.

by Anonymousreply 2205/02/2021

DL thinks this is brutalism.

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by Anonymousreply 2305/02/2021

Gio Ponti's brutalism.

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by Anonymousreply 2405/02/2021

r24 black and white pic of a building with huge windows and tons of light. It's classified as a "building in need of protection" against Philistines like yourself. Brutalism has nothing to do with being depressing, brutal, or dark. It's concrete, and it's a beautiful material.

by Anonymousreply 2505/02/2021

I used to subscribe to Domus.

It was hip and it was cool. It was chic and it was hep!

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by Anonymousreply 2605/02/2021

[quote] Gio Ponti was the greatest European designer of the 20th century

Are you talking Early Ponti or Late Ponti?

by Anonymousreply 2705/02/2021

The city inspector asked me to destroy my Willy Guhls. As if!

by Anonymousreply 2805/02/2021

Is he Sophia's brother-in-law?

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by Anonymousreply 2905/02/2021

R27 The whole breadth of his career, especially having lived a very long life and the diversity of media he worked in and the extent of his impact within the continent of Europe and beyond.

by Anonymousreply 3005/02/2021

r28 Insane Philistinism. Let me guess. Fungus? Vinegar will fix it but do not. I want a pair of his chairs for my garden.

by Anonymousreply 3105/02/2021

Charrlotte Perriand before Ponti. Better than Mies, so he graffitied her house and then died in front of it.

by Anonymousreply 3205/02/2021

R15 You mention that the OP's silly jerkoff article claims Ponti invented modernism while ignoring the Bauhaus.

I think the silly jerkoff article was meant for teenagers. Not connoisseurs.

by Anonymousreply 3305/02/2021

[quote] Fungus? Vinegar will fix

R31 Are you talking Onychomycosis?

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by Anonymousreply 3405/02/2021

Vintage Willy Guhl for eternit contains asbestos. That's why. Meanwhile every design museum is allowed to keep and display theirs.

It was cheap when I first shopped in Switzerland years ago. Nobody wanted it.

by Anonymousreply 3505/02/2021

R8 Bruer’s best work, especially in architecture, was in the US. So many of the German architects and designers emigrated to the US and there weren’t the creative types to replace them. The dismantling of Bauhaus by the Nazis really cut off the modernest evolution in German, and in many ways the Scandinavians did a much better job of picking up with it and running leaving German in the dust.

by Anonymousreply 3605/02/2021

r33 Like Al Gore invented the internet. To ignore the Bauhaus when speaking of modernism? Albers then. Ponti was great, but inventing modernism? which extended so far beyond chairs or buildings. Teens should start with the Bauhaus when learning about modernism. Or even earlier. Hoffman. Prague Chairs, 1904.

by Anonymousreply 3705/02/2021

r35 Ah, I remember something about this. The real originals are going for 5k while others are 1500 and it is the asbestos that collectors crave isn't it? They look better. The patina really is interesting on those older ones.

by Anonymousreply 3805/02/2021

r36 I recently watched a video on youtube about the original Bauhaus and how they wanted to make stuff for the common German Frau, and middle class Germans completely rejected the metal and chrome and simplicity as cold, sterile and robotic. I think Dieter Rams finished that process by making the design more palatable to middle class Germans.

by Anonymousreply 3905/02/2021

R36 I guess those 'creative types' who left Germany realised their brand of quirky, pseudo-intellectual, self-absorbed elitism wasn't appreciated by the new regime which wanted buildings which had some kind of grandeur and emotional charge.

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by Anonymousreply 4005/02/2021

This is chic, sexy, and also relaxing.

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by Anonymousreply 4105/02/2021

Bauhaus was a success, then the Nazis stamped it out.

by Anonymousreply 4205/02/2021

R32 Perriand was too overshadowed by Le Corbusier, even though she lived a long life it was only her 21st century “rediscovery” and extracting her as a leading woman of design in the 20th century that she is recognized and celebrated. Many had forgotten her.

by Anonymousreply 4305/02/2021

R41 Those chairs are Charles Eames' Spider Chairs!

by Anonymousreply 4405/02/2021

Nice for a one time glance. I wouldn’t want to live with any of his designs.

by Anonymousreply 4505/02/2021

R44 - what are you talking about - there’s no such thing as an Eames “spider” chair. Those Ponti chairs are vaguely like an Eames DCM, but lots of modern designs are variations of similar themes.

by Anonymousreply 4605/02/2021

This statement from the Brooklyn Museum further justifies my claim, noting as I did the the squashing and demonizing of Modernism by the Nazis set back the Germans from their strong start in the earlier 20th Century, but what I didn’t really know or understand was that Mussolini actually supported and endorsed Modernism, which set the stage for it to be embraced and blossom in post war Italy.

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by Anonymousreply 4705/02/2021

So HE'S the one who came up with photogenically angular chairs that become excruciating uncomfortable after sitting on them for more than a few minutes.

by Anonymousreply 4805/02/2021

These prewar pieces were at auction last week and are quite lovely and different from what we think of as Ponti. I really like the Pilgrim cup illustrated in the video thumbnail (looks almost Rockwell Kent), apparently the daybed didn’t sell.

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by Anonymousreply 4905/02/2021

[quote] … but lots of modern designs are variations of similar themes.

Ok, R46, I think R20 said—

[quote] … Gio Ponti designs can be easily replicated by cheap copyists in Taiwan and Malaysia and shipped to Walmart.

by Anonymousreply 5005/02/2021

This has some wonderful images from the exhibition.

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by Anonymousreply 5105/02/2021

No, R48, Marcel Breuer came first. Gio Ponti stole that idea also.

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by Anonymousreply 5205/02/2021

Postwar Ponti obviously. Super Leggera chairs? I had a set, very elegant.

by Anonymousreply 5305/02/2021

That hideous pic you posted, OP, proved you wrong with no assistance needed.

by Anonymousreply 5405/02/2021

So the Georgia Museum of Art had a big exhibit in 2017 and this is an interview with a curator. This turquoise table is amazing, not in the least because it’s concave.

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by Anonymousreply 5505/02/2021

relatively easy to find

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by Anonymousreply 5605/02/2021

R55 Concave tables are very useful in homes for the senile and physically impaired.

They're also useful in preventing ill-behaved children of resting their forearms on the dinner table.

by Anonymousreply 5705/02/2021

r56 You are correct. In aluminum chorme, set of 4 for 400 bucks at the Rose Bowl. Easy to find, but most of these people are full on Target Marms.

by Anonymousreply 5805/02/2021

Shit no, authentic Charivari at boots and flea markets in Switzerland. Naive people don't know what they have.

by Anonymousreply 5905/02/2021

*Chiavari

by Anonymousreply 6005/02/2021

school chair for 12 thousand dollars.

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by Anonymousreply 6105/02/2021

^ rich people hustling for their fetishes.

by Anonymousreply 6205/02/2021

the original Bauhaus and how they wanted to make stuff for the common German Frau, and middle class Germans completely rejected the metal and chrome and simplicity as cold, sterile and robotic.

Well, R39, I have to agree with the common German Frau.

The Bauhaus stuff was designed by pseudo-intellectual, self-absorbed elitists who were more concerned with the theory of geometry than human anatomy.

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by Anonymousreply 6305/03/2021

The picture at R51 and the OP have that decidedly-odd armchair with those uncomfortable-looking armrests.

by Anonymousreply 6405/03/2021

[quote]r46 what are you talking about - there’s no such thing as an Eames “spider” chair.

Your FACE is a spider chair... because stupid spiders SIT on it!

by Anonymousreply 6505/03/2021

R65 - that is the strangest attempt at an insult ever to appear on the DL. Which is something.

by Anonymousreply 6605/04/2021

[quote] The Eames Brothers

OH DEAR!

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by Anonymousreply 6705/04/2021

Ray’s pronouns were she/her!

by Anonymousreply 6805/04/2021

Spider Chairs break easily

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by Anonymousreply 6905/04/2021

Spider Chairs may be OK for 'chic' Italians but not for fat, overfed Americans.

by Anonymousreply 7005/04/2021
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