What word did people use before that one took over everyone's vocabulary? Suddenly everyone's a "grifter."
"Grifter"
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 20, 2021 10:20 PM |
OP, you ruined what could have a been a good thread with a stupid poll.
You just don't know when to stop. Everything by you is overkill.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 20, 2021 3:04 AM |
Shyster was the word I remember used.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 20, 2021 3:05 AM |
That's a good one, R2.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 20, 2021 3:06 AM |
Snake oil salesman.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 20, 2021 3:11 AM |
The Grifters is a 1990 American neo-noir crime thriller film directed by Stephen Frears, produced by Martin Scorsese, and starring John Cusack, Anjelica Huston, and Annette Bening.
It received four Academy Award nominations including Angelica Huston for Best Actress and Annette Bening for Best Supporting Actress. While neither won the Oscar, both won the National Society of Film Critics Award in their respective categories.
Great movie!!
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 20, 2021 3:12 AM |
A variation on shyster is “sheisty,” I guess the adjective form. I use that.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | April 20, 2021 4:45 AM |
The Grifters was also a 1963 crime novel by Jim Thompson. Not really a new word.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | April 20, 2021 4:47 AM |
There was also "con artist." Snake oil salesman is still good, IMO.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | April 20, 2021 4:59 AM |
Yes it became popular after the 1990 Frears film - at least I started using it then on.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 20, 2021 5:24 AM |
Another name for grifter is "Flim-Flam Man"
In addition to general deceiving or tricking, the verb "flimflam" is often used specifically to refer to swindling someone out of money. The ultimate origin of "flimflam" is uncertain, but the word is probably of Scandinavian origin and may be related to the Old Norse flim, meaning "mockery."
Also a great song in 1971 by Streisand written by Laura Nyro from the "Stoney End" album:
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 20, 2021 5:38 AM |
And a movie too I thought. The flimflamman?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 20, 2021 5:49 AM |
Used Car Salesman.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 20, 2021 5:53 AM |
Grifter is not a new word by any means and came before any of the others in the list (pretty sure). Flim=flam man is probably earlier than that. Snake Oil Salesman pre-dates either of those.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | April 20, 2021 5:54 AM |
“Meghan”, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 20, 2021 6:09 AM |
He's a real operator, that one!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | April 20, 2021 6:12 AM |
R5 = Alexa
by Anonymous | reply 16 | April 20, 2021 6:15 AM |
Kardashian/Jenner
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 20, 2021 6:16 AM |
Con artist. Con man. Con woman.
Shyster usually deals specifically with lawyers.
Grifter or someone on "the grift" has been in use for at least a decade.
It came back into use thanks to the 45th president and his criminal family enterprise.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 20, 2021 6:17 AM |
"Grifter or someone on "the grift" has been in use for at least a CENTURY."
That's what I meant to type.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 20, 2021 6:18 AM |
Trumpster
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 20, 2021 6:18 AM |
Huckster.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 20, 2021 6:19 AM |
Modern day snake oil salesman, r17. We can also add in Goop with a healthy helping. Fucking grifters, all of them.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 20, 2021 6:19 AM |
On TCM yesterday Ricardo Montalban said grafter not grifter. I noticed because I thought it was weird. But it is a thing.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 20, 2021 6:27 AM |
A grifter cons and then disappears, moves on to another victim.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 20, 2021 6:27 AM |
QVC, HSN predatory shysters
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 20, 2021 6:43 AM |
Jane and Bernie Sanders
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 20, 2021 6:47 AM |
I know it's not a new word, and, yes, I enjoyed the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 20, 2021 1:29 PM |
OP: "suddenly"
Oh, OK. Sure.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 20, 2021 1:38 PM |
Jew bastard.
(Seriously!)
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 20, 2021 1:40 PM |
WTF, can you read? I said suddenly everyone's using it. As in *they* just learned the word, not I. Just like a few years ago everyone was using "problematic." It's a fad word that knocks all synonyms out of daily use.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 20, 2021 5:16 PM |
GIGGILO!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 20, 2021 5:18 PM |
People didn't just suddenly start using it, it's been common for a while. As others have noted, the 1990 film probably increased its usage more than anything else. If you've noticed a recent uptick, it's because we had a grifter-in-chief and his grifter family running wild for four years. It's a perfect word to describe all of them. They see the whole world as their mark.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 20, 2021 5:22 PM |
I've always used grifter, but noticed an uptick in its use lately as well. Charlatan is another I prefer. If you want something less common, go for Chiseller or hoser.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 20, 2021 5:46 PM |
Confidence trickster
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 20, 2021 5:50 PM |
R34 Good one! A particular favourite of mine!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 20, 2021 6:08 PM |
Correction; I use grifter more in connection with someone taking a free ride, whether through conartistry involved or not to do so. Like a roommate taking advantage of what you buy, or people that conveniently never have enough money on them when you go out.
Grifter just doesn't cover a conartist enough, since as I said, it can apply to those that take advantage in general, whereas an actual conartist is also manipulative, dishonest, running a scam, etc. It's not much of a difference and defition wise grifter very much can be used to label a conartist, but it's a word that comes across too vague to convey there's a purposeful operation behind the grifting.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 20, 2021 6:10 PM |
"Grifter" just has a pungent quality that a lot of these other words lack. It's redolent of an entire life built around running seedy, fly-by-night scams.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 20, 2021 6:15 PM |
Swindler
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 20, 2021 6:40 PM |
I associate hustler with hooker.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 20, 2021 8:45 PM |
Bunco artist
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 20, 2021 10:20 PM |