'I want the shop to be cited and forced to give haircuts'
Toronto woman denied haircut files human rights complaint
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/15/2021|
Article is from 2012 and the original thread was closed already.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/15/2021|
Thread was closed at 237 posts...
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/15/2021|
The barber, I think you should respect other people's religious views of they are not trying to attack you and he had another barber offer her a haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/15/2021|
Allah hates lesbian haircuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/16/2021|
meh, man hating lesbian with a chip on her shoulder. Is she an academic? Women's studies?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/16/2021|
Faith McGregor stepped into the Terminal Barber Shop on Bay St. for a lunch-hour haircut, requesting a butch-style “businessman,’’ short on the sides, tapered, and trim up top.
Co-owner Omar Mahrouk demurred, as did two other barbers working that day, explaining that his Muslim faith prohibited him from touching a woman who was not a member of his family.
McGregor was displeased, claims to have felt like a second-class citizen, and denounced Mahrouk. “You are sexist,’’ she stated before leaving.
“For me it was just a haircut and started out about me being a woman. Now we’re talking about religion versus gender versus human rights and businesses in Ontario,” said McGregor.
She filed a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario almost immediately, saying she felt like a “second-class citizen.”
Mahrouk’s response to the tribunal, provided through his lawyer David Kolinsky, doesn’t dispute McGregor’s complaint but says being forced to cut a woman’s hair would violate his freedom of religion.
“We live for our values. We are people who have values and we hold on to it. I am not going to change what the faith has stated to us to do. This is not extreme — this is just a basic value that we follow,” said Karim Saaden, co-owner of the Terminal Barber Shop.
He noted that it was a matter of adherence to faith, not a gender issue.
“In our faith, for instance, I can cut my mother’s hair, I can cut my sister’s hair, I can cut my wife’s hair, my daughter’s hair,” said Saaden.
The barbershop suggested a solution to McGregor toward the end of August, offering her a haircut from a barber willing to do so.
“It’s the principle of the matter so I turned down their lawyer’s offer and said, ‘No, I wish to continue with the tribunal,’ because this needs to be discussed and now it’s bigger than what occurred with me that one day, in one afternoon,” said McGregor.
She is asking the tribunal to force Terminal Barber Shop to offer its men’s haircuts to both genders, and suggests in her application that the shop post a sign indicating it serves both men and women. She is not seeking money.
So who do you side with? The Lesbian or the Male Barber?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/16/2021|
The Lesbian. Our country, Our rules.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/16/2021|
I'm a Lesbian who sides with the barber.
The barber was gentleman enough to offer one of my fellow Lesbians a haircut from another barber who did not share his faith. If he did not do that, my opinion would be far different, and I would side with my fellow Lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/16/2021|
The Lesbian and the Male Barber sounds like an excellent Movie of the Week.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/16/2021|
This is nonsense. If he doesn't want to cut her hair he shouldn't have to.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/16/2021|
Why does she claim he was sexist? If you at look at one way, it was guy vs guy
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/16/2021|
They could've just given her a bad haircut.
Not that she'd have noticed.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/03/2021|
Do any Canadians want to explain their human rights stuff to us?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/03/2021|
WAX MY BALLS!
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/03/2021|
Guaranteed she works in the oxygen-less world of academia. These freaks have ruined our culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/03/2021|
..she should have added "..and ,OH, its ,my birthday"!
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/03/2021|
Why does she feel she has to have THIS particular barber cut her hair if he offered someone else who could do it within the shop? She wasn't told no one could it, just that those practicing the Muslim faith couldn't do it. The shop offered someone else. I don't see the issue here.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/03/2021|
Yep, keep it up women. Keep it up.. And you wonder why so many people are okay with trans taking your place and taking over your spaces. It's because of this shit. But karma is bitch slapping all of you right before our very eyes, and it really feels so good.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/03/2021|
^ You don't understand the full implications of what's going on here, you might if you lived in an English city.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/03/2021|
BALD SJW BITCHES ABOUT LACK OF HAIRCUT
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/03/2021|
That's a woman?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/03/2021|
r18, I couldn't find anything about the shop offering someone else - I know that Canada's legal system can be overreaching, and I'm not supporting the avenue this woman has taken, just trying to clarify.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/03/2021|
[quote] The barbers, who are all Muslim, told her their religion didn't allow them to cut the hair of a woman who is not a member of their family.
Clash of Trans and Muslim.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/03/2021|
[quote] 'I want the shop to be cited and forced to give haircuts'
Of course you do.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/03/2021|
Agree with R4, R9, R11 and R18.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/03/2021|
Important to note that a haircut was offered only after the complaint was filed (again, not taking sides, just clarifying).
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/03/2021|
Wow! This thread was so much funnier AND more complicated than I thought it would be. I'm all over the place. Too many thoughts.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/03/2021|
OP, thank you for posting this article from 2012. It's not even a decade old yet.
On other topics, I'm going to predict that ARGO will win the academy award for best film and that President Barack Obama will be re-elected.
Go San Francisco Giants!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/03/2021|
I'd have bumped the original thread if Muriel hadn't closed it early for some reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/03/2021|
So what was the ruling?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/03/2021|
In obiter, the judge remarked the dyke had one ugly haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/03/2021|
[quote] Clash of Trans and Muslim.
It's a ciswoman.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/03/2021|
[quote]'I want the shop to be cited and forced to give haircuts'
And everyone gets the Sophia Petrillo...
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/03/2021|
He should’ve shaved her bald.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/03/2021|
R23, this is from R7's post:
[quote] The barbershop suggested a solution to McGregor toward the end of August, offering her a haircut from a barber willing to do so.
“It’s the principle of the matter so I turned down their lawyer’s offer and said, ‘No, I wish to continue with the tribunal,’ because this needs to be discussed and now it’s bigger than what occurred with me that one day, in one afternoon,” said McGregor. [quote]
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/03/2021|
Thanks, r36 - I managed to find the info for myself after initially not bothering to read the thread properly - r27
Now it turns out it's all from 2012!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/03/2021|
What was the tribunal’s ruling?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/03/2021|
What happened with her complaint?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/04/2021|
The barber has stated his boundaries.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/04/2021|
She's a parajustice.
She LIVES for doing things like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/04/2021|
Remember Astor Place Barber in the 80’s, no one gave a shit who you were, hair was hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/04/2021|
'Quietly resolved' = got a settlement to go away
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/04/2021|
God, that's one ugly dyke.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/04/2021|
This man was set up. Hope "the resolution" didn't involve giving her money, The resolution should have been referral to a female barber. What scam has she tried to pull lately?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/04/2021|
She went looking for that barber.
I know this type.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/04/2021|
Demi Lovato is being triggered as we speak.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/04/2021|
This woman is in the grievance business.
This woman makes money from other people's unhappiness.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/04/2021|
Now we know the real reason Ellen became Eliot.
She needed a haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/04/2021|
This woman is a provocateur for money.
But what is her endgame? Does she want to ban Muslim Misogynists from her Christian Canada?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/04/2021|
I support this brave woman!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/04/2021|
But Glenn, we realise the physical similarity but you can't make a movie about this woman.
This woman had a brief moment of drama ten years ago but then they retreated into the boring capitalist system to make pots of money.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/04/2021|
No religion should violate the Constitution.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/04/2021|
I wonder if she's got sisters named Hope McGregor and Charity McGregor.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/04/2021|
An angry dyke with a human rights issue.. how original 🙄... Sit down Norma
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/04/2021|
I hope this woman has new hairdo.
The OP's picture is VERY unflattering.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/04/2021|
[quote] This man was set up.
Just like the bakers were set up.
Professional provocateurs pushing their own agenda onto others.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/04/2021|
It is insane OP brought up this case from NINE years ago as did not bother to tell us that.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/04/2021|
Norma, the woman they made the movie about was a dyke?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/04/2021|