Attendance At Prince Philip’s Funeral

Fergie.

Who cares? Also: who cares?

Obviously you r2 since you took the time to post.

I haven't confirmed!

Will any of the servants be allowed to attend?

R3 The Internet is how old now? And people still jumping into the comments with “who cares.”

Kate's parents?

Nonsense.

Harry will back to England but he won't be at the funeral - self-isolating persona non grata. People don't want to someone else's grandson throwing temper tantrums at the future kings.

I think we can safely assume the Queen approves the guest list. Interesting that the Middletons are given that honor. It's sure to frost certain people's balls, haha.

Harry's supposed to go back to the UK only to watch his grandfather's funeral on the telly? What utter nonsense.

He'll be there - unless Meghsy orders him back to Montecito Castle on various reasons, of course.

Only people who cared enough about him to be in the country when he fell ill and those who didn’t bash him and his family on TV when he was most vulnerable.

Only 30 guests are permitted (owing to UK COVID restrictions). The Queen will certainly follow the directives of the UK government.

Queen + 4 children + 8 grandchildren + 10 great-grandchildren = 23. And that is just counting the direct heirs (and not any spouses).

We know Archie Mountbatten-Windsor is not coming, so that is one more space. Add the spouses the kids (Camilla and Sophie) plus Duchess Kate gets us close to capacity at 25 if the rest of the grands and grand-grands attended. Boris Johnson had to be invited (as the PM), but his gracious regret means that one spouse of a grandkid can attend.

I highly doubt that any non-relative will make it into the Elite 30.

It seems appropriate for the Middletons to be there, though it might not have been a foregone conclusion. They're co-grandparents with the Cornwalls, and everyone likes Kate, as far as I know.

I don't think any of the great-grandchildren will be there.

They're pretty young, all of them - some of them are actually newborns. I'm talking about Eugenie's baby son and Zara's baby son. Both of them where named in honour of Philip (August Philip, Lucas Philip respectively).

Let's take a headcount so we know how many seats are available

The Queen

The Vicar (possibly others to help with the service)

Charles & Camilla

Anne & Timothy

Andrew

Edward & Sophie

William & Kate (George for photo purposes?)

Harry

Zara & Mike

Peter

Beatrice & Edoardo

Eugenie & Jack

Louise

James

Mike & Carole Brady-Middleton

That makes at least 23+

Will HM and Philip be buried together, or will it have to wait until she dies?

[quote]Will HM and Philip be buried together, or will it have to wait until she dies?

He will be stuffed and stood outside the gates of Buckingham Palace so that tourists can take a picture with him.

Philip will be temporarily interred in the Royal Vault.

After The Queen's death, he's supposed to be reburied in King George VI's vault alongside his parents-in-law, his sister-in-law and his wife.

I don't think the vicar and other clergy are included in the 30.

This is The Royal Vault.

[quote]Will any of the servants be allowed to attend?

Yes, actually. Philip's private secretary is going.

[quote]Will HM and Philip be buried together, or will it have to wait until she dies?

No Rose, she's going in the coffin with him next weekend.

Harry will attend via "special feed" sitting in a bedroom in the castle with a TV tray of McD chicken nuggets in front of him so he doesn't go wandering.

There's no reason why the elder Middletons would be invited. This is not a wedding--this has nothing to do with them.

I also don't see it likely Eduardo and Jack would be invited. if Mike Tindall is, it's only because he's especially close to Philip.

None of the great-grandchildren will be invited, not even George. This is not a photo opportunity.

There will be a few of Philip's close friends and associates, like Lady Penelope Brabourne, who is also a relative, and his private secretary.

He was close to the queen's royal cousins, so expect the Kents, Prince and Princess Michael, and Princess Alexandra. The Gloucesters are the next generation, but they are the only other royals, so they will be invited too.

They are also using his personal staff as pallbearers instead of the armed forces that are more traditional, they don't count towards the 30 attendee limit.

It would be nice if Harry used the opportunity to beg Philip for forgiveness.

Isn't it a bit late?

If Harry were smart, he'd throw himself over the coffin during the service and weep like they've taken away his trust fund.

Harry and Meghan went to the funeral three days ago. Just them and the Archbishop in their old backyard.

One person I am sure will be there that no one has meantioned is Prince Phillip.

He's no longer a person, r30.

One would love to be there but the corgis aren't going to walk themselves.

R18, actually I don't believe they can be buried with George VI, as there is no more room in that very tiny (and not terribly attractive, IMHO) chapel...Margaret wouldn't have made it if she hadn't been cremated. I suspect they'll end-up at the Royal Burial Ground at Frogmore, or perhaps the Windsor garden.

There will be no vicar, only ABC and the Dean of Windsor.

R31 In earlier lockdowns in the UK when the limit was 10 people I wouldn't have been surprised if some 'jobsworth' had counted the body.

Sorry, but I don’t think the Middletons should not attend. There are other people who were closer to him.

Harry should be there.

[quote]He was close to the queen's royal cousins, so expect the Kents, Prince and Princess Michael,

Poofs of Datalounge, what brooch should I wear?

[Quote]Sorry, but I don’t think the Middletons should not attend. There are other people who were closer to him.

Oh dear; the double negative edition.

Harry's passport should be taken away from him when he gets to the UK. The Middletons are mates with Camilla and are there in support of Waity Katie. The Middletons' presence will specifically emphasize the Absence of Meghan.

Another Royal Dig ......"Prince William will be supported by the Middletons"

Everytime someone trashes "the other brother" and his wife, it makes William look like an even bigger Royal CandyAss than he already is, and Kate an even bigger Royal Bitch.

[quote]Sorry, but I don’t think the Middletons should not attend.

Oh, you silly boy! Mike and Carole Brady-Middleton aren't there as guests. They have been contracted to cater the event. You don't think Prince Philip is being sent off with a few sausage rolls at the local pub, do you?

Will there be a representative of the US?

There's quite a mob of nieces/nephew, grand-nieces/nephews on Philips Nazi side of the family, the offspring of Philip's 3 surviving sisters. The oldest of the lot is Maximillian, Margrave of Baden, 87 and Philip's nephew via his sister Theodora.

💂 Yes, R6

We all know that the correct term is [italic] Who Gives A Royal Flying Fuck?

[quote]Will there be a representative of the US?

Sharon Osbourne

R37 Why, your Blackamourning brooch darling!

WW for R29

"Because he married a Roman Catholic, according to the Act of Settlement of 1701, Maximilian would be removed from the line of succession to the British throne, until implementation in 2015 of the Succession to the Crown Act 2013, which restored any succession rights to British dynasties forfeited because of marriage to Roman Catholics."

Dang. Just for that I'm staying at home in the Schloss. Sorry uncle.

One knew one was old when one was reminded that one's nephew is 87.

The leftover uninvited royal(?) family and friends will gather at the Queen Vic Pub for drinks, darts, and nibbles while watching the live broadcast via You Tube on the Queen Vic's brand new wide screen telly.

[quote]None of the great-grandchildren will be invited, not even George. This is not a photo opportunity.

That's why you're posting on a poofter board and I am the future Queen of England.

Do we think Lady Sarah Chatto will make the cut?

Will Carole make some keepsakes to hand out? A bag of chips and a lollipop in a pretty bag?

Can't possibly ignore his side of the family, so add in Lady Pamela, Knatchbull and Penny.

I doubt any of the nephew and nieces from Philip's side will be there--he was not especially close with them. I think he liked his sister Theodora, but I don't think he kept up ties with her children.

He was enormously close with his sister Cecilia, but she died in a plane crash in the 30s with her children on board.

Yes the Mountbattens, the Milford-Havens, lest we forget.

Sarah Chatto and her brother Lord Snowdon will likely be there, and maybe Sarah's husband. Lord Snowdon is divorcing, so his wife will likely not be there.

Sarah is (with Sophie and Princess Alexandra) one of the most adored members of the royal family. Everyone likes her.

Pippa will turn up uninvited.

[quote] Sarah Chatto

Who?

[quote]Pippa will turn up uninvited.

If Pippa is there, then I'm coming.

Whoever gets into the funeral, apart from Haze, will be regarded henceforth as especially favored by the Queen, the PoW and Wills. Haze will merely be tolerated, despite being 'much loved' etc.

[quote]He was enormously close with his sister Cecilia, but she died in a plane crash in the 30s with her children on board.

Cecilia and her husband Geoge Donatus were ardent Nazis, had joined the Party right before the crash. Poetic and much deserved justice.

Her name was Cecilie.

Roy's Rolls will be catering at The Rovers Return. Landlady Jenny Connor will not be relaxing restrictions due to COVID, so one way traffic flow and masks and distancing. First G&T on the house in honour of his highness, the late Duke of Edinburgh. Landlord Johnny Connor will, of course, not be attending, as he is in prison.

We’ll be back at the house, warming up the dishes the neighbor ladies dropped off.

[quote] First G&T on the house in honour of his highness

They don't drink G&T up there.

Make mine a small sweet sherry.

[quote]Will there be a representative of the US?

Yes, Oprah will be there.

Lady Sarah Chatto is the daughter of Princess Margaret and the first Lord Snowdon, r59. She is the Queen's only niece by blood.

The funeral will be an indication of who is in and who is not in the slimmed down monarchy Charles is planning.

All ten great-grandchildren will not be there. Two are newborns, Louis is just rising three, i would only expect Prince George and maybe the Phillps girls and maybe the oldest Tyndall.

The Middletons sounds suspicious to me, but they may be there to run interference between Harry and the Cambridges, so that Harry has to be part of the York household "bubble".

Americans are so obsessed with the royal family lol

The Snowdon children are only related to Philip by marriage but he has known them all their lives. It would be odd having the Middletons but neither of the Snowdons. It was Philip who walked Margaret down the aisle in 1960 as her father was dead.

[quote]i would only expect Prince George and maybe the Phillps girls and maybe the oldest Tyndall.

You’re wrong.

The senior Middletons (Kate's parents) will not be there. They are not part of the royal family.

Prince William is very close to them, but Prince Philip was not.

[quote]The senior Middletons (Kate's parents) will not be there.

The article posted in the OP says that Mike and Carole Brady-Middleton WILL be at the funeral.

Chelsy Davy is en route now as this suggestion was one of the deathbed counsels Philip imparted to Charles at Windsor last week.

"The Middletons deserve a title - step forward, the Earl and Countess of Fairfax"

What kind of royal sources does Page Six have? Not even the Murdoch owned Sun is reporting this and they have reporters that have actually cultivated sources close to the palaces.

[quote]What kind of royal sources does Page Six have?

You think as soon as Carole Brady-Middleton hung up the phone from talking with Kate she didn't immediately ring Page Six?

Once a trolley dolly, always a trolley dolly.

Ahem

R71 As a rule the only funeral a child under 12 would attend in the UK would be their Parents, some might never attend one until adulthood.

Ahem, ahem

Rachel isn't coming because she knows that everyone there will want to push her into the open grave and yell "start digging, boys!"

Can you imagine the deep freeze Rachel's appearance would cause?

Sorry who is Rachel?

R86 - Harry's wife was born Rachel Meghan Markle.

James has the factory on overtime churning out black marshmallows with Phil's likeness.

[quote] Americans are so obsessed with the royal family lol

Don't think so. This thread is the handiwork of our British sisters.

[quote][R86] - Harry's wife was born Rachel Meghan Markle.

Let’s stop with the “Rachel” shit. Her name is Meghan. On this board, “Rachel” is widely assumed to be MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

[quote] black marshmallows with Phil's likeness

Golliwogs, they're called golliwogs.

Rachel Madcow has no monopoly.

Hi, I've been on the internet for 30 years and I'd just like to add: who cares?

Seems like you do R93 if you're browsing and posting here.

Aw, let 93 have his shits and giggles. Next up: “is he still dead?”

My calling her Rachel is in reference to how Dumbledore would always personally address Voldemort as Thomas in Harry Potter.

[quote] "the other brother"

I don't really have a problem with "the other brother", R40. It's that wife of his.

[quote] Will there be a representative of the US?

It's not a state funeral.

[quote] They don't drink G&T up there.

How dare you speak for me!

r100!!!!

R71 Talks shit

The day after the Royal Funerále, Piers

😖 The day following the Funeral Royále, Piers Morgan and his very special guest, Thomas Markle, will be sharing their absolute indignance and unbridled fury at being deliberately omitted from Royal Funeral Guest List.

I can remember when Grace van Cutsem was a fixture at all royal events. Will she be getting a ticket?

Waldorf Astor will represent the US, in Meghan's absence.

Jeez he’s not in the ground yet? Step on it Liz. Or on him, whatever.

What time are those sausage rolls?

I truly wanted to bone Lady Prudence Fairfax.

[quote]they've taken away his trust fund.

WHAT.

Will George and Anal lend Haze their plane for the woke Travelyst trip?

We need to play this out after brexit, megxit and covid.

[quote]None of the great-grandchildren will be invited, not even George. This is not a photo opportunity.

I hope Charlotte finds some way to bust out of the nursery, hitch a ride with Fergie and go anyway. Screw you, Georgie!

I guess we'll know the RF's really upset at Harry if there's an extra coffin at the funeral.

The genealogy of the Queen and Philip. Philip was more "royal" than the Queen herself.

I would like to brand "lol" on the tongues of every cunt here who uses the disgusting and lazy abbreviation.

Perhaps [italic]through[/italic] the tongues.

Rofl.

Yes R114 but the courtiers at Buckingham Palace and not just the courtiers looked down on him and called him the Foundling Hun.

Fergie is not invited to the service, but she’s planning on crashing the luncheon up at the castle afterwards. She’s heard it’s all you can eat and the cocktails are free.

Courtiers are still fawning outsiders trying to outrank each other and sucking up to royalty.

Princess Alexandra and the duke and duchess of Gloucester and the Duke of Kent. I have a feeling the duchess of kent who was not at Eugenies wedding may not be up to such events.

You mean Princess Alexandra played by Joan Benham.

r121 She's beautiful isn't she?

"Alexandra was born to Prince George, Duke of Kent, and Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark. She is a first cousin of the current British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, and since her mother was a first cousin of the queen's husband, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, she is also his first cousin once removed. As of March 2021, she is 55th in the line of succession to the British throne; at the time of her birth in 1936, she was sixth."

Poor Harry, how long until he's 55th?

[quote] Jeez he’s not in the ground yet?

The Royal Family is not Jewish or Muslim,

“she is also his first cousin once removed.”

Is that the same as second cousin?

Kate is not aging well. Her face looks so hard. Maybe it's the smoking.

No R125

R106 In terms of UK funerals eight days after death is regarded as quite hasty.

Two weeks is ideal, but depending on the time of year three to five weeks later isn't uncommon.

Sudden death (even from natural causes) will result in delays, it's probably eight to twelve weeks then. If you are lucky.

R126 in this day and age

I doubt Princess Alexandra will be there, as she is rumoured to be in poor health. And the Duchess of Kent retired from public life some years ago (with much more grace and goodwill than some others) so may be a no-show. Peter Phillips is divorcing so his wife won’t be there, Edo and Jack are relatively new members so may not attend. I was actually thinking that Kate may be an exception as an attendee married to a grandchild. Only Mike Tindall has been in the family as long as her, and I can imagine him not making a fuss at being left out.

If attendance is restricted to grand-children (+Kate), it may make Harry seem like less of an outsider.

Whatever happens, I am sure there will be a few surprising attendees. The Royals generally find a way to defy expectations.

I’d be very surprised if the Middletons are there, but if they are it will be a sign of how much power has passed to William. He obviously loves and trusts them, and they have behaved impeccably as his in-laws.

I doubt the Middleton family would attend if it meant family members were excluded.

We've all grown used to the regulations in the past year and learned to withdraw gracefully.

That's all Audrey and Rita drink, r66.

Well Audrey perhaps but surely not Rita.

Hang in there, Queen Elizabeth!

They invited me, but I have an appointment at the gynecologist.

I picture preparations for Philip's funeral being like all the people who had to go to Livia's funeral on "The Sopranos"

R126, does she really smoke? I hadn't heard that.

I think the hardness isn't too bad. If she's not a smoker, age and keeping so thin could do the same. She could fix her look by gaining five pounds, trimming her hair, and getting some laser resurfacing.

She's el porko!

Maybe Andrew and Fergie can rewed right after the funeral. After all, the family is all there, the Archbishop might give them a discount/combo package, and Phil can’t object anymore.

Rita is more of a vodka drinker

R79 - As I said, it sounds suspicious to me, but it wasn't only PageSix - when I searched, it came up in the ibitimes, as well. So far, no denials have been issued.

I can think of good reasons for it, but I agree that giving two spaces to William's in-laws does sound a bit off, unless they really are trying to provide a physical buffer between Harry and the Cambridges. After all, as William's brother, the Cambridge household "bubble" is the one he would naturally join.

Remember when they sent Kate and Pippa and Meghan to Wimbledon, and they sat on either side of Meghan, almost as if they were minding her?

R130 - Not at all. Autumn and Peter Phillips are already divorced, on quite amicable terms, and Autumn showed up last fall at something with the family? It was a very quiet proceeding. Peter Phillips is just as much Philip's grandson as Harry is. If Harry can be there, so can Anne's firstborn, and by the way, the Queen's and Philip's first grandchild.

Is it one person posting all these thread about the royal family?

R126 - Thank you, Pet, for reducing a thread about the death of Britain's longest serving consort to Kate's looks. Actually, for you, that was quite a restrained post.

I'm sure the entire world will be focussed on Kate's complexion rather than the Queen's grieving face.

Yes, poor dear Kate is looking dreadful these days, isn't she?

Good thing Meghan is pregnant. Without the ability to control every photo angle and the use of multiple filters she might have to show the world how she really looks.

R143, I wasn’t suggesting the Peter won’t be there, just suggesting that there are good reasons for saying that his ex-wife won’t be, and that I can imagine a few more of Those married to Phillip’s grandkids may be persuaded not to attend, which would free up a few spaces.

Let's talk about the real conniver here, Kate. How many years was she lurking around while she waited for a proposal from William. Of course, he would eventually ask her to marry him, it's exactly what serial cheaters do. They choose a wife, not because they love her, but she is the one who will always take him back, no matter who he sleeps with. She wants him for the title, the kids, the fame, and the public worship. And, the money.

She's sneaky. She's worse than Markle.

R148, zzz ...

If he weren't already dead, Philip would drop dead instantly because of your idiotic drivel.

Will Susan Dey be attending?

r130 What are the substance of the Princess Alexandra rumours? Has a specific illness be mentioned like cancer or dementia?

The Duchess of Kent has attended most royal family funerals or weddings since she stepped back but not the last public one Princess Eugenie which makes me wonder if it is health related.

r83, that is not the same thing as the Earl of Fairfax.

Quick question - if somehow Harry became King, would Archie be next in line?

Harry will be walking with his brother and father.

[quote] "The Middletons deserve a title - step forward, the Earl and Countess of Fairfax"

Arise, Sir Loin of Beef!

Arise, Earl of Cloves!

I would never allow that, r153.

Harry can walk wherever with whomever. However, as long as he’s married to that woman, he’ll be frozen out in a most polite and civil way.

My MIL had a falling-out with her BFF and they didn’t speak for a few years. When she died suddenly, the family invited him to the memorial service. The falling-out was between the two of them, and we had nice memories of him. It would have been cruel to exclude him, and we figured there was a 50-50 chance she’d be okay with it. But life is for the living and we didn’t want that on our consciences.

He showed up and our interactions were pleasant. Oh you look wonderful, the kids are getting so big, business is doing well, etc. He paid his respects, and we all hugged goodbye. But everyone (himself included) knew this would be the last time we saw him.

I imagine that’s how it’ll go down with that crew.

R154 - Yes, that's the problem, as they are likely the two people angriest at him, excepting Kate. Although Sophie looks as though she'd like to cut Harry, too.

I agree about the great-grandchildren being most likely to be restricted, except that Prince George is nearly eight, and as the next heir might be included to make the point. Any other great-grandchildren under 12 will almost certainly not be there.

It will be very interesting to see how they sort it - rows of two? Charles and Andrew supporting the Queen with the others behind? All the family men together with the married in wives behind? Couples together?

I can see the Lord Chamberlain tearing his hair out. And, one assumes there will be a quiet reception back at Windsor after the interment.

Harry is allegedly staying at his old digs in Nottingham Cottage, as he has to quarantine for a period and Euge and Jack and their baby are allegedly now ensconced at Frogmore Cottage.

[quote] All the family men together with the married in wives behind?

Britannistan is not quite the Middle East you know. Not yet.

[quote]In terms of UK funerals eight days after death is regarded as quite hasty.

Liz needs him in the ground so she can collect the life insurance money.

R151, I don’t think there has been any specific announcement of her retiring, or of any specific illness, but she is 84/85 now and has had a few illnesses and injuries over the past few years. There was also a report recently that she hadn’t performed any royal duties over the past 8 or 9 months, not even via Skype. As she was previously so active with her charities, it’s reasonable to assume that something is preventing her from carrying on.

R158 Legally the rules are clear, they will stay in their own 'bubbles' (maximum of two households).

A reception afterwards would be in breach of Covid regulations so will not happen.

Sophie has shown that she's very good at the duty thing, and also very family oriented. What a perfect combination of attributes for that role. She's not exciting but she's pretty great. She comes across as warmer and more engaging than even Kate. She'd have made a good Queen consort.

The whole world hangs from Kate's cheekbones.

The Queen and Prince Charles will be happy to have Harry retuning home. He is the Grandson and Son, respectively.

Kate and Wills, not so much.

Duke of Edinburgh "The current holder is Charles, Prince of Wales, who inherited the title on 9 April 2021 upon the death of his father Prince Philip, the husband of Queen Elizabeth II."

Well, well, well. No wonder Sophie was in tears.

r161 Thanks .I do hope she hasn't caught the dreaded covid 19.

R166, why are You surprised? The title goes to Charles automatically as Phillip’s eldest son. Neither The Queen nor Charles can bestow it on Edward right now. That will only happen when Charles succeeds, and his lower titles become his to bestow as he E understanding has always been that Edward will get his Dukedom from Charles.

R158 "Yes, that's the problem, as they are likely the two people angriest at him, excepting Kate. Although Sophie looks as though she'd like to cut Harry, too."

Of all the people in that family, the one I'd least want to cross is Anne, who's been fingered by the press as the skin-colour commenter. If she can kill one of the Queen's corgis she's capable of anything.

No, I think Anne is softer than people think. Like Philip in that regard. Just very practical.

My guess for the one you wouldn't want to cross is Andrew. Of course, he can't fully make use of that particular power right now.

Narrowing it down to 30 people is fascinating, IMO (not joking). Now, we get to see who, exactly, is in the inner sanctum and who is not.

Carole Middleton (Kate's mom) was photographed carrying a flask. I can't find the photo now. She seems like a partier.

Royal Black Lives Matter

I'm sure that will find a nice cozy corner where Oprah can sneak in and sit.

R3 Taking the time to post that I don't care means I care?

was this ‘tard invited?

According to the BBC, clergy and pall bearers are not included in the count of who attends the funeral service.

No word about service music or whether The Chapel Royal which consists of the Queen's musicians and her private choir will take part.

Military bands will take part in the procession to the chapel.

Duke of Edinburgh will arrive in a " modified Range Rover".

Surely not strapped to the roof!

A list of probably funeral attendees, limited to 30 due to UK COVID restrictions:

The Queen

Charles & Camilla, Anne & husband, Andrew, Edward & Sophie

William & Kate, Harry

Peter Phillips, Zara Tindall, Beatrice & Eugenie, Louise Windsor & James Severn

Sarah Chatto, David Linley

That brings to a total of 19 or so. The remaining guests will be a combination of these:

George Cambridge, Charlotte Cambridge, Savannah & Isla Phillips (older g-grandchildren, if allowed. Rumor is they won't be present)

Mike Tindall, Jack Brooksbank, Eduardo Mozzi (spouses of grandchildren)

Lady Pamela Hicks & attendant (his remaining 1st cousin, she is 95 yrs old and wheelchair-bound)

Duke of Gloucester, Duke of Kent, Michael of Kent, Princess Alexandra (Queen's 1st cousins)

Norton & Penny Knatchbull (no joke, she's married to his cousin)

George Milford Haven, Ivar Mountbatten (cousins)

Max and Ludwig of Baden, Georg of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, Karl and Clarissa of Hesse, George of Hanover (nephews/nieces)

his private secretary and valet, other close staff

I wonder why Sarah, Duchess of York hasn’t Tweeted her condolences yet.

It is curious, the bad relations between Fergie and Philip. On paper, I should think the two of them would actually rather like each other. Makes me wonder what really went on there.

Sarah “Fergie” Ferguson and Prince Philip’s Feud: A History

I think he felt her toe sucking scandal reflected poorly on the family, R180.

Fergie should stumble in DRUNK .

R182 It just doesn’t seem to me like an unforgivable offense. Not in this family.

It was before the Panorama interview, R184.

R185 Yes but the enmity continued for years to come.

R181 The article sums up pretty much what we know. I still don’t know what to make of it. There’s more, we just don’t know.

r179 Has she tweeted at all about anything else?

Just some advertising for her book

Seems that if Liz could forgive Fergs, Phil could also forgive. He wasn’t known for being monogamous or being 100% discreet.

OT but in the genealogy above, Admiral Viscount Mountbatten of Burma is snackish and without issue. However, that is an old document, so who knows?

r189 Thanks but has she tweeted since his death was announced?

Admiral Viscount Mountbatten of Burma was a known pedo.

R193 He was also cuckolded by his nympho wife who fucked Nehru.

[quote] Viscount Mountbatten of Burma

Oh dear

R191 He had two daughters, one who is still living. His granddaughter, India Hicks, was sort of an It Girl in the late 80s/early 90s. Mountbatten was also Charles’ godfather and tried really hard to have his other granddaughter, Amanda Knatchbull, marry his godson.

Mountbatten's second child Lady Pamela Hicks is still alive.

Fortunately he seems to have passed peacefully.

Harry is confirmed back in the UK it seems.

War veterans are pissed. Harry not being able to wear his uniform to the funeral after two tours and ten years of service has them fuming. They are taking it personally. It's starting to trend.

R200 Is it

R200 surely it's a civilian affair for Harry the Deserter.

Prince Harry "is said to have arrived at Heathrow on a British Airways flight from Los Angeles at 1.15pm on Sunday.The Sun says Prince Harry was met by police and security on the tarmac and driven away in a Range Rover. He is thought to have been taken to" the Tower, the newspaper added.

[quote] It is curious, the bad relations between Fergie and Philip. On paper, I should think the two of them would actually rather like each other. Makes me wonder what really went on there.

Philip had made clear to his sons his one requirement for their marriages, no fat chicks, but Andrew had not followed his father’s wishes. Fergie bore the brunt of Philip’s resulting displeasure.

[quote]He is thought to have been taken to" the Tower, the newspaper added.

Is that where they used to behead people?

Some were beheaded R205.

"Philip, according to [his biographer Giles] Brandreth, was not bothered by the timing. He was, however, critical of the couple airing their personal matters publicly. “The fact that the Meghan and Harry interview was aired while Philip was in hospital did not trouble him,” wrote Brandreth. “What did worry him was the couple’s preoccupation with their own problems and their willingness to talk about them in public. ‘Give TV interviews by all means,’ he said, ‘but don’t talk about yourself.’"

It is a relief that he didn't care about the timing, at least. What an evil scourge the Harkles are. I feel very sorry for the dead duke and for the Queen, having to put up with so, so many problems in old age which are just compounded by the Harkles in the most selfish possible way.

R205 the Crown Jewels are also kept there, but Haze will not be getting close.

R200 Harry will wear his fave uniform in tribute to his Grandad.

Isn't there some law that the Queen has custody of her grandchildren? I am assuming she could now stop him going back to MegWitch and no extradition issues.

"The BBC making a big mistake with its North Korean-style coverage of Prince Philip. Can only alienate more licence payers at a time when it needs all the public support it can get.”

The BBC are pretty clueless at times. This was obviously planned 25 years ago when Philip was 75 and no one thought to update it. It just kicked in and is now called "North Korean" lol. Philip might very well have been amused.

Perfect, R209.

While not expected to attend the funeral due to CoVid restrictions, several A-List celebrities have confirmed their attendance at the ultra exclusive after party being thrown at Windsor Castle by Ciroc, Cartier, and Depends Adult Diapers. Rumored attendees include:

Brendad Dickson

Madonna

David and Posh

Simon Cowell

Dame Edna

Gene Simmons and Shannon Soft Core Tweed

Fergie and Fergie Ferg

Earl Spencer with Diana’s Ashes

Elton John and the his balding husband

J.K. Rowling with guest Al Sharpton

Donald and Melania Trump

With Special Musical Performances By:

Cardi B and Meg Dee Stallion- a bagpipe version of WAP

Beyonce performing Strange Fruit

Demi Lovato reciting the poem: This could have also been me

Nick Jonas performing Jealous, Sexy Back, and In the Ghetto

Cher performing God or I Will Save the Queen

I'll take a pass. Not my sort of dive.

What about me?

R176 The child you crassly refer to could probably kill you with her bare hands.

"Shared grief over the death of the Duke of Edinburgh is an "ideal opportunity" to mend any rifts within the Royal Family, ex-PM Sir John Major has said. Sir John, who was guardian to Princes William and Harry following their mother's death, said he hoped it would end any "friction" between the pair. He also said the Queen needed time to grieve for her husband."

I assume that William and Harry fave John Major will be at the funeral as a prelude to their reconciliation. He was their special guardian after Diana's death, appointed to ensure the Windsors, an acquisitive lot, didn't fleece the kids of Diana's money (much of which came from the Windsors on the divorce). Sir John is a working class guy from Brixton and the princes liked him. I hope they still like him because he is in a unique position to mediate this situation.

R217 Well, put yourself in John Major's shoes. What sort of magic could possibly bring those two together? The wounds are too fresh. Maybe in a few years, after the divorce perhaps, but not now.

William knows, just as well as every single person here, that whatever the comforting sounds Harry might make in England, once he's back in California she'll be in charge again. And her focus is not going to change, ever.

If there are cameras, Edo and Jack will be there. Jack probably has a deal in his Casamigos employment to get his face in as many royal pics as possible. Edo’s at home practicing his appropriately sorrowful expression. Both will be wondering about the will.

R219 He left everything to the Queen, as is customary.

Isn't there a practice in the UK of locking-up royal wills? The public never knows what they provide. I recall this came up after the Queen Mother's death.

This funeral is taking longer to plan than the dude was alive.

George & Amal Fuckadoodle Clooneys became associated with Charles' Prince of Wales Trust.

Not Meghan's risky, may not pay out contracts with Netflix and Spotify. What could this possibility mean to the retracted, mean, & even self-serving Sussex horrific pair. Everything they touch turns to shit, Capitalize that!

[Quote]Well, put yourself in John Major's shoes. What sort of magic could possibly bring those two together?

John Major's injecting himself into this? 😆 Isn't he the only Conservative PM to not get invited into the Royal Order of the Garter?

^I take it back. Apparently, Major got a RF rank.

No, Major is in. The problem is Tony Blair. The Queen's dislike of him is holding up his appointment and the appointments for all later PMs.

Boris Johnson is probably relieved he can politely decline this funeral and spend his day drinking at the newly open pub.

The reasons UK funerals are usually 2-4 weeks after the death are purely practical - getting a slot at a venue, organising an officiant etc. These don't apply here.

R228, Royal Funerals are not subject to ordinary delays, but they are delayeD by the logistics of getting large numbers of Ambassadors, foreign Royals and politicians into London for the event.

Mountbatten and his wife were anything but monogamous. They both indulged themselves liberally. He was of course bi, and was referred to in private circles as Earl Mountbottom.

His wife was the filthy rich heiress to banker Ernst Cassel, and her money was definitely one of her primary attractions for Lord Louis.

But after the strange manner of such things, they were genuinely close, and her affairs were said to upset him, as his were purely sexual, whilst hers were passionate. And, yes, she had quite the thing with Nehru.

These were some of the reasons the Queen Mother distrusted Lord Louis and tried to offset his influence on Charles.

As it appears masks will be worn, the family will liyerally have a bit of cover re hiding their disgust of Harry having the neck to use his grandfather's death as a rehabilitation venue. Instead of, for example, visiting Philip whilst still alive, as Harry was undoubtedly told Philip was on the way out.

But Harry did that appalling interview instead, forcing the Queen to deal with his incredible shit whilst trying to focus on her last weeks with her dying spouse.

Just the way Harry ditched the Royal Marines Deal Memorial so he could attend The Lion King premiere and pitch his wife for voice over work to Bob Iger.

I doubt the RMs were sorry to see the back of him He doesn't deserve to wear their uniform.

He really is a heartless, self-absorbed little arsewipe.

^*literally

The list of attendees will be published on Thursday, so we can stop guessing unless we're taking wagers. Masks and social distancing will be the order of the day, which will undoubtedly be a relief for those who don't want to be forced into proximity to Harry.

r229 True although Dianas funeral occurred less than a week after the car crash.

Question: if you’re wearing a mask and you hiss at someone, can the hissing still be heard?

[quote] ‘Give TV interviews by all means,’ he said, ‘but don’t talk about yourself.’"

Prince Philip's and Michelle Obama's advices align pretty closely.

BTW, it is not a matter of conjecture - Philip's private secretary is attending. He was probably closer to him in the last couple of years than anyone, while the Duke was living largely separately from the Queen before the pandemic.

At R216, I think we have a winner in the Who Will Marry Prince Oskar Stakes!

Talk about a power couple. It'd be like Joffrey marrying Joffrey.

R231 = Piers

R227 - Oh, Boris will have to put in his time, presiding over seven hours in the House of a Monday to allow for tributes to Philip. Were mine the choice, I'd far rather attend the funeral for a couple of hours and have done with it.

"Royal" Threads, among others, prove that Gay Manfraus are more than just an [italic] Urban Legend.

[quote]Masks and social distancing will be the order of the day,

Oh, Eugenie, Grandpapa’s funeral is going to be fancy dress. How about you go as Angela Merkel and I’ll go as Barack Obama?

Go ahead, make Meghan's day, Bea.

R240, go keep on spouting your homophobic diatribes on a Gays' board. Great idea indeed!

[quote]He is thought to have been taken to the Tower, the newspaper added.

Oh this doesn't sound good.

Will's statement came with a photo.

They really have robbed Archie of quite a bit in their endless quest for more. Sad.

Philip was a very harsh father to Charles, yet seems to genuinely connect with children. The stories about him playing with and comforting JFK Jr. were also quite poignant. Families are complicated.

Harry DID value his family before MeMe, they were to be "the family she never had." Now his children will miss growing up with their cousins and the rest of the family. Harry will have brought additional time and stress at a very vulnerable point, all in a shake down attempt for more money. Gruesome Twosome indeed.

Combat veterans want Harry to wear his uniform?

I find that difficult to believe.

Nice statement about William recalling his grandfather coming to fetch the great grandkids in his carriage, his sense of humor, and mischievousness.

I'm betting William never allowed Gramps to fetch the great grandkids for a Sunday drive in the country in his big, shiny Land Rover.

Sunshine Sucks desperate pressure tactics, R247. They attempt to "manifest" the wishes of MeMe.

Of course, you are correct.

Ditching an event for military to pitch his wife doing voice over for Disney was revealing. Where did that money go, by the way? Reportedly not to the elephants as was advertised. Sunshine Sucks and the bot armies must be paid, hmmm...

The bitter old queen @ r247 has stopped to an even lower low.

No one can question Harry's dedication and service to his country and fellow military veterans. That dedication continues to this day, extending far beyond the battlefield.

R247 and it's utter bullshit, probably made up by Hazza and Megsy's PR team to stir shit.

Veterans are disgusted with Harry who preferred attending the fucking Disney premiere party instead of doing his duty attending some military service.

Harry's remembrance of his grandfather was sweet. Meghan must have helped him write it because it contains the same grammatical error she makes and Harry made in the farewell speech to his African charity. Harry said, "... and I..." instead of "... and me..."

R250 is either entirely deluded or being sarcastic.

^^^ "Stooped" as in "bend over" r247.

R252 No, they used "I" correctly.

The Sun has Harry's statement on top rather than William's satement.

Prince Edward, Sophie, and Louise were very touching when answering the reporters' questions after the church service. You could tell that all 3 had been crying.

William will still be King of England one day, R256. Tabs make $ off of clicks.

Per the Sun caption, "Harry was very close to the Duke of Edinburgh, and was reportedly isolating at home in LA so he could travel quickly" this keeps being trumpted, yet, he did not visit whilst he was dying, despite being well aware.

Instead, they did the Oprah interview and kept up strong arm tactics until days before Philip's death, demanding the BRF make a public aplology to MeMeMe and angling for more titles and funding lest more revelations be made. Nothing HazBean does or says for the rest of his life can alter what his actions in March and April 2021 told the world about who HE is.

The last thing soldiers serving in Afghanistan wanted was Harry around, making them high-risk targets, to say nothing of the extra efforts to keep the grandson of the sovereign out of harm's way. While Harry was doing photo OPs playing soldier, his fellow officers were assigned to protect him.

Four subjects never to be discussed, because it's impossible to reach an amicable agreement:

1. Politics

2. Religion

3. Sex

4. The Royal Family

R255 lol! You're right. I was wrong. I misread it as being connected to the prior sentence. Hubris. I'm guilty of hubris.

R259, his whole life seems to be a PR stunt, TBH. So much puff props up so much ugliness, to this day.

Pamela Hicks, the only surviving child of Lord Mountbatten.

Imagine if Meghan were to attend.

Let's not, and say we did.

I think they realize now how damaged Harry has been because of his mother's death and will cut him some slack.

[QUOTE] Sunshine Sucks and the bot armies must be paid, hmmm...

Stop trying to make Sunshine Sucks happen, you PR obsessed cunt.

We know you're the Welp Troll.

[quote] Boris Johnson is probably relieved he can politely decline this funeral and spend his day drinking at the newly open pub.

He'll use the extra time to go to his special stylist to make sure his hair has even more split ends for the cameras.

[quote]I think they realize now how damaged Harry has been because of his mother's death and will cut him some slack.

They also realize that Meghan is exploiting him.

When has the BRF ever cut anyone some slack?

[quote] He'll use the extra time to go to his special stylist to make sure his hair has even more split ends for the cameras.

They're not split ends, they're fly-aways.

Why are the expectations so low for Hazbean, look at Philip's childhood, or William's?

R270 - You're joking, right? The only reason Harry had that happy go lucky cheeky soldier boy image is because the Palace surrounded him with people who cleaned up his messes and crafted the image for him.

His bad temper, recklessness, and stupidity have been regularly covered up whilst he was passed through schools and up through the military because of what his name was. He couldn't pass the Major's exam, so his Gran made him an honorary one. His wife's bitchy bullying was also covered up by the same people Meghan now accuses of not "protecting" her enough.

If you think that Vegas stunt and the Nazi uniform and use of the term Paki and Raghead were the extent of Harry's peccadilloes, think again. They've been cutting him slack and coddling him and forgiving him and pushing him through since his teens.

They did the same thing with Margaret and Andrew- slack slack slack and more slack.

What the Queen should have done as soon as she realised they were planning their exit in 2019 was shove them out the door with a nice fat cheque and no titles.

You want to talk cutting slack? They've been cutting Meghan slack since the engagement, paying off staff whose lives she made miserable in exchange for NDAs.

That's the irony here: people like Andrew and Meghan and Margaret and Harry getting to remain privileged, dumb, rich, fat, and happy whilst behaving atrociously.

R272 - It's the "spare" problem: they try to make up for Not Being First by spoiling them rotten and indulging them. Then, when the result of all that spoiling and indulgence blossoms in adulthood and bad behaviour, the BRF are shocked, shocked. The heir is burdened with higher expectations and dire warnings about the Fall of the House of Windsor, whilst the spare runs around naked at his father's 50th birthday party, dons a Nazi armband for a costume party, gets photographed playing strip billiards in Las Vegas at 28, and then is allowed to marry a third-rate divorced nearly middle-aged actress so unfit for royal life it was visible from Outer Space.

Their shock at the outcome is what is so, er, shocking. As Max Hastings said in his article, everyone who really knew Harry, knew that the moment he left the military, Harry was a train wreck waiting to happen.

As someone said, "Crazy is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result."

Indulging Harry and Meghan has done nothing but allow the two to feel that indulgence is their birthright.

But the BRF seem unable to absorb the lesson.

🤗 So grateful to have been born in a family of commoners.

The expected attendees.

R202, tbf, we don't know how far she was into the pregnancy. If the fetus already had a heartbeat, it'd be certainly heartbreaking for a woman to learn that little heart inside her womb has stopped beating.

The real problem with Meghan is that I don't trust her to have had a miscarriage in the first place.

^THIS post should NOT be here ... no idea how it came here.

:-S

Harry was never in any real danger during his military service. The notion is laughable. Almost as laughable as the idea that he’s a target of a fatwa now.

There may be people defending him online, but regular rank and file don’t have time for stolen valor fakers and exaggerators.

But let him play dress-up. He likes that.

[quote] Harry was never in any real danger during his military service.

Unlike DL fave Prince Andrew who was flying a jet around the Falklands and now can't sweat.

[quote] Harry was never in any real danger during his military service.

This has always been my thought. Was he ever really in danger during all the time he was in the military? Seems like he would have been protected more than the average soldier. These guys (Charles, William, etc.) are so used to putting on a coat with tons of badges and medals just for being born. The military uniform was probably another coat with badges and medals.

Of course he wasn’t in any real danger. Can you imagine being the general who’d have to tell Queen Elizabeth “yes, we allowed your grandson to be blown to smithereens. Sorry Ma’am.”

It’s like some people don’t understand how nepotism works.

r280 Andrew's the reason why its better to put them in the navy. They can still get the joy of service, firing long range missiles and general slumming it. But the real lunatic states or militia out there have yet to build surface fleets so no risk of beheading on Al-Jazeera

Why was the third "Prince Philip is dead to me!" thread deleted?

R284, Sunshine Sachs complained to Muriel.

Wait, wait. Harry used the slur "raghead", R273? For real?

"[...] is FEAD to me" could've become a real DL meme, like "Fank you!"

Thanks for nothing, Muriella.

Yes my little Paki friend @R286, he really used "raghead." These accounts are really just the tip of the iceberg of Harry's decidedly un-woke past; but he was a prisoner and didn't know it until Meghan showed him...

I don't believe Meghan had a myth- carriage. There, I said it!

Why was that thread deleted?

^Because Muriel is a cunt.

Or because Sunshine Sucks and its little online minions were complaining again.

Why I am supposed to pay for threads getting deleted is beyond me.

I don't pay anymore.

Did any of you see the statement that horse's arse who wished to be a tampon in his mistress' trousers in his next life make on Saturday..."My Dear Papa..." The man looked constipated. Or the statement yesterday from his brother who befriends sex traffickers and had sex with a 17 year old himself..."the Grandfather of the nation..."

Ugh, the man was a national embarrassment...spoke with candor...No, he betrayed ignorance and bigotry!

I struggle to reconcile how those freaks, who come on here making ludicrous allegations about racism but get to call us faggots, get to run this site.

R284 - for the same reason that this thread will go the same way.

Meghan really had a thread deleted? I will not pay to post here anymore if true. Wtf is that cunt to have that kind of power here? They are the ones who should be banned. Homophobic, racist, decrepitated bullies and trolls can now post this kind of abuse to us but DL'ers who have been here for years and are paid members answer to these trolls? Oh, hell no.

I very much doubt that Meghan had anything to do with it, R296. DL may sometimes punch above its weight in the matter of gossip, but 1) the site is largely unheard of in the real world and 2) the Meghan threads are, in any case, the same kind of crazy stuff you can find all over the internet. I think that Muriel just deletes the threads when they become too ridiculous and threaten to make this venereal institution a magnet for all manner of Meghan obsessives.

For those who will mark me out as a Sunshine Sachs SHILL, you can do the whole thing of ignoring me and then reading my comments on other BRF threads - you'll see that I really don't like Meghan, but let's not get carried away with ourselves, either in our theories about her or in the extent to which we allow this topic to dominate threads that don't specifically address Meghan.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

That makes sense , R297. Thank you. Next Meghan will have a fake 911 emergency so Harry will have to come back early. I wonder if she is aware of just how badly she has blown this?

Meghan didn't have the bloody thread deleted. For one thing, it was started well before Part 2 was even at 500 posts. For another, idiots started about 4 other threads on his death, and those were in addition the dozen OTHER threads about Harry and Meghan created on Philip's death.

If you lot can't discipline yourselves to keep to 2-3 threads on the same topic, I don't blame the mods for losing patience and cleaning up.

It was not remotely time for Part 3. Meghan I'd guilty of much, but she has no power here to delete threads.

The test of us who want to discuss this shit have begged the rest of you to stop creating inane new threads on one issue.

But would you listen?

No.

^*Meghan is (not I'd)

Doubt iit, R299, Haru looked awfully smirky upon arrival in the UK. In contrast to Edward and his family who looked quite tearful. I do believe they feel they have the BRF over a barrel.

Having a relative like this, I can say, they do not care about appearances or relationships so any event or circumstance can be disrupted by their acting out for negative attention or just to embarass the family. They are after power and attention, there is no way to get them to value a shared time, even in grief, unless it is connected to a system like payments with consequences and in this case, an NDA would have been helpful. It is very painful for other family members, I can attest. Harry stripped naked and ran about as a teen at his father's 50th bday party that he and William had organized. It should be clear why he married her.

It is very frustrating to have 4 or 5 threads when we could have everything in one. It is difficult to keep up.

In the past, Epstein threads were deleted, and 1D threads, the spazz troll seems engaged to post about both MeAgain and the other Harry.

Was there anything particularly interesting before the thread was deleted? Often duplicative threads are simply closed, so something likely warranted different treatment. Anyone wanna guess who was on the thread at the end?

The problem about amassing so many posts in one thread is that it takes forever to open past the 300 post or so and is slow to scroll on phones.

[Quote]Harry stripped naked and ran about as a teen at his father's 50th bday party that he and William had organized

Here's a story I missed. Charming.

I think Harry looked drunk/drugged in that picture. He looked wasted. I feel for TRF. I have never seen one as toxic and narcissist as MM. They are going to have ghost them . What else can they do? It is horrible to watch them do this right now just as everyone is grieving and trying to honor a man who stood by the Queen and his family for so long.

I agree, R303. Too many threads have been set up on subsidiary topics - the funeral attendees, whether Philip had Diana murdered, pictures of Philip in bathing suits - when these could all have gone on a Prince Philip megathread to mark his death. Individual subtopics may interest you more, but it's just a better experience if they're all together, I believe, because he is being discussed so much at the moment and more people could read and bring interesting stuff to a megathread.

More importantly, any non-Philip discussion of Meghan Markle should be kept to the Recollections May Vary series.

Harry’s statement is more Californian word salad. I suspect that his sole contributions were the word “banter” and the phrase “oh, do get on with it!” - all the rest reads as pure Meagain.

“Authentically himself”? Yeah right, Meghan.

Thanks for you telling the Mooghan loons the name of the serious thread over and over again ...

The photo of George and Philip that William posted is so cute. Nice that quite a few of Philip's great-grandkids will remember him.

R305 - Yes - the two boys organised a large but private 50th birthday party for Charles. Harry was 14 at the time. In the midst of the party and the toasts and all that, Harry suddenly stripped off, ran around the room totally starkers, and then sped out, mortifying his brother, father, and the guests.

Fourteen and a member of the BRF - no one of that age and background pulls a prank like that because he doesn't know any better.

I think Harry's been acting out for decades, and it's all aimed at his family, including his brother. He's clearly extremely emotionally damaged, angry, immature, and for all his therapy, lacking some crucial synaptic connection between neurons that produces real self-awareness.

His family are his victims. Meghan is his weapon. He experiences no guilt, and he found the perfect partner to assure him he is guiltless.

That Meghan posted that vile message in this of all weeks about being willing to "forgive and move forward", wrapped up, of course, in her bullshit about her close bond with Philip (he's been living at Wood Farm for the last three years, she's probably only met him several times) and that's what he would have wanted, is proof that nothing in the dynamic between the Sussexes and the Windsors will ever change.

The family need to accept this and behave accordingly if THEY are ever to move forward.

Agree, R312. Have a relative like this and gray rocking to minimize future harm is the only choice. It is heartbreaking and hope springs eternal but people like this in midlife are not going to change. MeAgain's pattern is set and now Hazbean has adopted it. Looking at the photo of George it is hard not to feel for Archie and his sister. Philip did seem fun, and to like little kids.

R312, do you have a link to her statement?

The Sussex stans are twitter are saying that Harry gave the only authentic remembrance.

Of course, R315. Edward, Sophie and Louise were patently FAKING their grief.

I saw it in the The Express - it is, however, being talked about on a good many sites.

Of course, she has put this about through "friends".

I doubt anyone will have brought this breathtaking piece of merriment to the Queen's attention, but I don't doubt that other members of the family were made aware of it.

The piece with Meghan and her "close bond" with Philip (and Charles, remember that? And the Queen, of course. And the Archbishop of Canterbury. And Diana's ghost. And, er, have I forgotten anyone?) is also in the Express.

Really - in a week of mourning, put that out there knowing full well that the response back at the Palace will be, "Over our dead . . ." Ooops.

Only a sociopath would put that out there at this time. One really fears for the children.

Do you gossiping fraus ever go back and reread your numerous posts regarding one million real and true Internet facts about the Royal family?

If you do, it's probably with a drink in one hand, and a joint in the other.

Link to the piece ab out Meghan's "close bond" with Philip.

And, In Accordance with the Prophecy - she's managed to get herself headlines in a week when the story is Prince Philip's death and his family's grief.

Friends say .......

Her father says .......

A trusted source told us ........

A snubbed second rate television host said ........

Some tea from the Telegraph (Tominey):

Yet it was the final, somewhat pointed, paragraph which took royal-watchers by surprise as William said: "Catherine and I will continue to do what he would have wanted and will support the Queen in the years ahead. I will miss my Grandpa, but I know he would want us to get on with the job."

The carefully-chosen words were inevitably interpreted by some as a bold attempt to contrast the Cambridges' own dutiful behaviour with the Sussexes' departure from royal duty.

If Meghz is willing to forgive and forget does that mean she realizes her Californian caper is doomed and she wants back in the BRF? The BRF would be crazy to have that viper back, but they would take her back if it meant getting Hal back.

Wills wants to push Granny Elizabeth down the stairs and move into GrandMummy's Palace.

R317, Hazbean was sent with orders to continue the strong arm tactics, she is trying to play Good Cop.

Disgusting human beings. If your family does not have any, count yourself blessed.

Harry has always been very off, it is not just that his mother died, look at the contrast with William or with Phillip. There are no easy answers with such relatives, esp if you have a profile where they can exert power by humiliating you. Charles was said years ago to be preparing a country home for Harry. It was never expected that he would be a self supporting adult and it is abundantly clear why most women would not have him.

Someone asked about the best way to watch the funeral on Saturday.

Probably tune in to BBC or SKY News, both will probably be streaming it live. If you're watching from America, England is five hours ahead of the East Coast. The funeral starts at 3PM GMT, which would be 10:00am on the East Coast.

BST (British Summer Time) began at end March, so even with Daylight Saving Time in America, the five hours should be accurate.

This is what comes from letting the Spencers into the family.

Please, God, make it PrimeTime soon and rid us of these ignorant fleas.

Philip called MeAgain "destructive" and privately referred to her as "Wallis." He would not be surprised.

He was said to ask for Harry, who chose not to come while he was still alive.

Harry does not value relationships or people. There is something profoundly off about him.

There's nothing like a ginger villain.

R328 - Yes, I agree. The question is, have the family absorbed this or not?

My late Mum used to quote that old housewives saying, "For every pot, there's a cover."

Nowhere is this more evident than Harry finding his perfect soulless soulmate.

Either all these statements from friends are allowed (my guess) or the "unmuzzled" Meghan needs to speak up and say its tabloid bullshit.

R327, I have a subscription. How can I tell when it’s prime time? I have a sneaking suspicion that the right wing loons don’t have subscriptions but would like to confirm it.

Meghan has no friends. These leaks are her handiwork. She is deranged. Someone truly needs to rescue Archie. These two should never be in charge of a child or an animal.

R324 - Charles allegedly offered them a beautiful old estate in Herefordshire, near the Welsh border. I believe it was already built, one of those older homes oozing class and character. It also wasn't far from Gloucestershire, where Charles' place, Highgrove House is, as well as Anne's Gatcombe estate.

The countryside is stunning (see link) and it is always listed as one of the ten most beautiful places to see in Britain - and the city itself is a cathedral city.

The Sussexes weren't interested - which tells you something about their values.

It was a painful lesson over time in my own family and we could not be humiliated on a global scale, the Harkles do have power, as long as they can pay for PR, esp. Very sad state of affairs and the whole family will not be on the same page. For parents esp, hope springs eternal. These personality or character disorders are even harder to change than other forms of mental illenss or even addiction. There never seems to be much insight that would lead to self accountability and thus change. And, when the effect is magnified by a spouse, it is that much worse as they cheer and goad one another on in acting out. It is very hard.

Who is forking up for Harry's trip home? By all of his accounts of wanting to be free of his relatives, British Airways has a non stop LAX - LHR. Surely there's a free seat for him to stump up and pay for. I do hope the RF isn't mollycoddling this sad sack of slurry and private jetting him there. He doesn't deserve it. It's a wonder the British public hasn't demanded a temporary halt to the Civil List in order to have something done about this crawlling grifter and its hideous wife.

R331 - Of course they're "allowed". They're more than allowed: they're suggested and sanctioned by Meghan. They come direct from the studio itself.

What I find interesting about these "leaks", is that Meghan knows quite well that many, including the BRF, will understand immediately what the real message is, and that message has nothing to do with forgiveness, moving forward, or her relationship with Philip.

The message is INTENDED to insult and infuriate. It is, in fact, another bait at the end of a pole she is dangling in front of them, daring them to lose it and strike back and make themselves look bad.

But they won't. They haven't taken the bait yet and I doubt they will.

They may, of course, see to it that Meghan and Harry are shut out of the family completely except for the next funeral: TQ.

They will never be taken back into the fold, especially if the Queen dies within the year. The wounds are far too fresh. And if only Charles would see reason and step aside for William, the Queen's funeral would be the last time either of those two sociopaths are seen with the family.

Oh stop it, Crazy R337.

Will Sarah accompany Andrew, Beatrice and Eugenie to Philip's funeral?

Aww, come on, let her attend.

Okay Sarah, the queen says it's fine, and Philip is willing to give you another go for old times' sake.

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If she did not want to be the center of attention surely that would be indicated by NOT creating PR. That old chestnut, actions speak louder than words, comes to mind...

She is clearly trying to set up his in person shakedown adn to maintain viability for merching their BRF connections.

[quote]Meghan Markle 'willing to forgive royals and move forward' after Philip death, say friends

Do these Markle, Harry and "friends" fuckers have any sense of self-awareness and the damage they have caused? Markle is willing to forgive the royal family? Oh please. That statement is 360-degrees wrong. It should be is the royal family willing to forgive her...keeping in mind that they don't need Markle to "move forward.."

O dear God, they cannot just be left in peace to grieve! Hazbean did not come when Philip asked for him but flies in after his death all smiles and now more threats from MeAgain in DM

While it's possible that Meghan could fly to the UK to join Harry before Saturday's funeral, the insider added that her mother Doria is 'adamant' that she not travel while pregnant.

She HATES to steal the spotlight, don'tcha know

Oh Jesus, now Markle is supposedly issuing statements via her so-called friends statements saying that Markle had a "special bond" with Philip and that she "adored" him. Markle is exactly the type of person who Philip would have hated and had no use for...and vice versa.

Besides, Philip retired from public life in 2017. He rarely left Windsor Castle from the time he retired. I doubt Markle even saw him but a few, brief times if at all between her maternity leave and her phony stunts in Canada for "private family time" while she plotted her escape. Me-Again never seems to quit inserting herself. STFU.

Which members, if any, of Philip's secret negro family will attend?

Will you shut the fuck up about Meghan on every frigging thread? Jesus Christ on a crutch, if she was as powerful as you make her out to be we'd all be worshipping at her cankles.

🔮👳 Will the DL Authentic British Royal Psychic please stand and give us the DL Authentic British Big Royal🖕 Wave ?

[quote] Too many threads have been set up on subsidiary topics - the funeral attendees, whether Philip had Diana murdered, pictures of Philip in bathing suits - when these could all have gone on a Prince Philip megathread to mark his death.

I will have ORDER!! ORDER!!

R348, she’s living rent free in their heads. It’s actually pretty funny. They scream she’s a narcissist who wants all the attention. Yet they give her exactly that by overrunning every fucking tangential thread with posts about her.

Lady Sybil Crawley ran away with Thomas Branson, the Family Chauffeur.

And that ended in tears .........

[quote] He rarely left Windsor Castle from the time he retired.

No, after his retirement he lived at a farmhouse on the Sandringham Estate until last year when the combination of Covid and his own declining health forced him to move back to Windsor.

[quote]Wait, wait. Harry used the slur "raghead", [R273]? For real?

Wait until R286 hears about his swastika Halloween costume.

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He may have been living quietly in a secluded farmhouse, but he loved going out and flying through the countryside in his Land Rover.

Funeral takes place on Saturday, April 17, 2021, 15:00 BST. 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time (US).

Then, and only then, will we know the guest list.

R353. Even more reason with Philip being retired at Sandringham and then sheltered away at Windsor due to COVID for more than a year, obviously there was no time for Markle to see Philip never mind having any time to "adore" him. Plus she had left the UK. I'm sure there was no "special bond" was created between her and Philip as her supposed friends are claiming on her behalf. Another lie from the duchess in distress.

Duchess of Discord & Destruction

Will the queen invite her friend, the Duchess of York?

Meghan is irrelevant in the eyes of the BRF. She has proven herself not worthy of any attention from them whatsoever. She has simply demonstrated an inability to rise to any occasion with dignity. Harry is damaged goods, and as heartbreaking as he believes his story is, many many others have suffered more at an early age without making their problems belong to every one else.

The BRF must cut all ties.

'In the past, Epstein threads were deleted, and 1D threads, the spazz troll seems engaged to post about both MeAgain and the other Harry.'

FUCK OFF WELP TROLL AND KLAN GRANNY. STOP TRYING TO MAKE SUNSHINE SUCKS HAPPEN.

'The BRF must cut all ties.'

Dumbass, Charles only has two sons. He's not going to 'cut all ties'.

' Charles allegedly offered them a beautiful old estate in Herefordshire, near the Welsh border.'

200 days of rain a year and diurnal temps 10f cooler than the London area. Why on earth would they want to live there? You can see what they like by what they chose to buy - mountains, the ocean, and a warm climate. Herefordshire is godforsaken.

Charles is too enmeshed, R361. He wanted to issue a point by point rebuttal which would have been gasoline on the flames and playing MeAgain's game.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

Goes double when they are malicious.

Does Prince Philip have any relatives on his side? I think all his sisters are dead. The Queen's cousins aren't invited? Duke of Gloucester and Kent plus spouses? Maybe they will all meet at the castle for a luncheon after the services or maybe they will have 2 services. One for the immediate family and one for the rest. Isn't the Prime Minister going to be there?

The only reason they didn't totally erase and annihilate Diana after her interview was because she was the Mother of the future King.

Meghan & Harry don't hold those cards, they are toast.

I do hope The Princess Michael is invited. She's fabulous!

I'm there. I'll always be there for Philip.

Johnson will not be there, R366, so as to free up a limited seat for family. The cv cap in the UK is 30.

@R367- Nailed it. Meghan us probably too narcissistic to be aware of this, but that bitch will be done and dusted after this. Meghan is living proof that TRF didn't murder Diana because if they had no problem getting rid of problem in-laws, that bitch would be in dungeon, decomposing.

Will Britbox be streaming the funeral--anyone know?

I want to watch it too but I only have OTA TV. I need to stream it or wait for it to be on YouTube.

I wonder if phil's mistress of over 25 years, Penny Brabourne, will attend?

R371 I know that I'm correct.

The Daughter of Princess Alexandra Marina Ogilvy/Mowatt gave a rather unfortunate interview to the tabloid press 30+ years ago when she became pregnant.

After her short lived marriage and divorce she was allowed to rent a small cottage on the Windsor Estate.

She lived there on government benefits, they also payed her rent as they would for any other impoverished person.

This article about her daughter explains what happened.

The Royal Family have long memories.

Paid not 'Payed' stupid autocorrect.

r285 About what in particular or specifically?

r302 Where did you hear Harry stripped naked 1ged 14 at his fathers birthday party in 1998??!!

I read that tears ago as well. Both William and Prince Charles were stunned and humiliated. Harry had always acted out inappropriately, TRF have been covering for him his whole life.

r379 Oh I have clicked onto the fact the palace PR people have been covering up for him for years but stripping at 14 at his fathers birthday party has shocked me .Were other royals like the Queen present?

r123 I really hope Princess Alexandra attends and helps quell or confound rumours about her declining health.

No, I remember that it was all of Prince Charles friends, and it was kinda of formal because it was a milestone birthday. ( 50th) Also when W&K were preparing for their wedding, the staff baked a hugh, expensive cake. Harry ran up the cake and punched one side of it with his fist and tried to play it off as a joke. No one laughed. He was always pulling mean pranks on people. Supposedly this is another reason Chelsey left him. She thought he was mean but she also knew something was really abnormal about Harry.

^^^ Sounds like Harry has a degree of retardation. ^^^

Thanks r382 He seems a lot more off, volatile and unpleasant than I had suspected. I bet the royal family wish advanced embryo screening was a possibility especially way back in 1983 1984!

I dont think the monarchy in the modern age could survive a really bad or volatile monarch.Imagine if someone like Harry was the first born of the heir to the throne?!

Harry reminds me of someone who has had a severe head injury and has brain damage as a result. Volatile mood swings, ect. Something is wrong with Harry. He is very immature for his age and I think he has no empathy for anyone.

Exactly R385. Those poor children, at the mercy of sociopaths and isolated from all family. Doria seems extremely cold as well. Those kids are gonna get bad genes from both sides and a toxic enviornment.

I wonder who at the funeral will cry. Will Her Majesty hold it together?

Feral child.

These Royal threads are boring the hell out of me. You bitter, know-it-all queens make me want to take a very long nap.

What are the strong-arm tactics and blackmail the Harkles are supposedly employing? And to what end? I must be missing something super obvious.

R368 She is not "The" Princess Michael. She does not hold the title of Princess in her own right.

Tedious Klan trolls. None of you are gay men.

FYI - on tonight's ABC network news David Muir announced that ABC will cover the funeral live on Saturday, beginning at 9:30 a.m. ET. It's possible the others might cover it too as well as CNN, etc.

Gingers have no souls

R393. Good news. I'll be up at 6:30am to watch here on the West Coast.

^^Markle will be watching too since she "adored" Prince Philip and has a "special bond" with him. That's what she said according to her unnamed friends.

What a shame the part 3 Prince Philip thread was cut, there was some very good general royal discussion going on there, about his family history and the like. Yet all of the Markle/Sussex threads are still live, go figure.

I agree, R397. One of the things I dislike about DL, in addition to the feeling I'm walking the halls of mental hospital where doors don't lock, is the arbitrary hand that comes down sometimes. But, you get what you pay for, and we don't pay much, if we pay at all. Still, it drives me crazy a thread like that gets deleted but idiots like the Klan Granny Trolls, who come to a gay site calling us faggots, have access. We're just supposed to ignore those trolls, apparently. Seems rather a big ask considering what they're saying. However, the laws of the jungle are clear.

Not ALL of them. The Meghan Markle Will Not Attend Prince Philip's Funeral thread was jettisoned into the ethers about the same time the Prince Philip Part 3 thread was.

R399 That was a stupid thread, nothing but tedious vitriol from the usual suspects. I do wonder why the instigators are allowed to remain on this board.

R400 Just like the instigators wonder how a controlling fascist thread monitor/dictatorial thought police is allowed to remain on this board.

I don't have cable but I do have Roku. Sky News streams for free. May want to check it out if US network TV doesn't broadcast it. Probably will be YouTube channels doing the same.

+1 with r397.

Sussex- Hater Obsessives are scarily invested in their mutual circle jerk to the point that they ruin threads for the sane here who see them with bemused, disinterested fun, but enjoy the fodder their behavior creates for gossip and speculation.

They ruin BRF threads for everybody else.

Your post doesn't sound scarily invested in analyzing it all, Della.

Vodka for breakfast?

forgot to add at r403 that, then, if you call them on their shit, some of it ignorant and bigoted, they hide behind and accuse others of not knowing the definition "gossip".

Bullshit.

No one wants to read all the bickering back and forth. Boring af. I wish people would just not engage, but some love to argue. Take it outside, ladies.

What a shame you forgot to add such valuable analysis, Dr. Fraud

Hell, drunk off my ass, r404, I'd still have more perspective than Sussex Obsessives, you included.

R406, sorry. Funnily enough I agree with Della a great deal but when she get's grand I can't resist.

But, Della, you do recognize with your great insights on the Sussex obsessives you fuel the very content you deplore?

So where does that leave you? Don't answer. I'm just putting in your great mind for you to contemplate among all the other issues of the day to which you lend your vast presence.

The Today Show is diplomatically pushing a story of the brothers coming together for the funeral. Which isn’t something I really believe, but I appreciate that they’re not fanning flames. Everyone will behave in public.

I was reading about how much attention there will be on trying to read body language, which is so ridiculous. They'll be at a funeral, masked, and the only time you see them embrace in public is informally at things like the polo. There's not going to be any body language to read.

I think if you're looking for a display of bad behavior, side eye, etc., this won't be the occasion for it. Everyone knows the world is watching & will be on their best behavior. For all his antics, Wills & Charles probably know Harry is a very fragile guy & the last thing they want to do is send him into a downward spiral, even if they do think he's a pussy whipped little asshole.

Plus, due to COVID, there won't be the usual dignitaries to make fools of themselves or people like Posh & Becks, George & Amal to make fun of, so it will be pretty boring which is kind of disappointing because if there's anything the BRF does well, it's pageantry.

When the Queen dies, however, *that* will be a show. The lid that's held down resentments, anger, annoyance and rivalries finally comes off & there's no telling how people will behave

I guess we can discuss this here since the part 3 thread was canned: Philip was just as royal if not more so than the Queen. For all the talk of his poverty-stricken childhood and rootlessness, he was unbelievably connected by blood.

His great-grandfather was King of Denmark, his grandfather, uncle and cousins Kings of Greece. His cousins were Queens of Spain and Romania. That's just on his father's side. On his mother's, his great aunt was the last Empress of Russia and his aunt was Queen of Sweden.

No bearing on the funeral directly, but with his passing we're witnessing the real end of an era, where royalty was interconnected by strong family bonds. The 'new royals' are all marrying non-royals and commoners, which is more modern but loosens the ties between the families and countries.

r380 is it really that shocking to be acting out at that age? He's heard a lot more shit about his parents divorce than most children get, usually we don't get to the truth until we are adults and can sift through our parents bs. I'm sure at that time he was bought in to the saintly-hood of his dead mother. He probably had to see Camilla at this event or perhaps Charles just pissed him off. A 14 year old still coping with the loss of a parent, by being sent back to boarding school, may be prone to bought of anger and acting out. I doubt Charles is much of a parent so that respect level may not be there. I don't think either boy is even close to Charles.

His father treated his beloved mother like shit, his family is all about the business, he was a teenager (probably drunk), Charles is a complete asshole, and what better way to cause a scene in a stuffy costume obsessed family then to remove that costume. If we stop treating these people like Gods from Mount Olympus (who were very fucked up) and like real humans with issues, we can simmer down these stan wars that have been raging over the past few years.

Sounds rather hilarious for anyone not in attendance!

[quote]When the Queen dies, however, *that* will be a show. The lid that's held down resentments, anger, annoyance and rivalries finally comes off & there's no telling how people will behave

I think everyone will be on their VERY best behavior when that event happens. NONE of them want to be the spoiler who ruined her funeral, when all of Britain will be in deep mourning and the world's eyes riveted for days, if not weeks, on them. It would be suicide for any of the BRF to step out of line then.

When Charles is coronated about 6 months to a year later, is when the gloves may come off for some. It will be a large test of his mettle as monarch as to how he'll handle this, and other BRF issues, in those early months.

The royal family doesn't do bad behaviour at public occasions. They barely manage it at private occasions. When the Queen dies it will be stiff upper lips all around. And the notion of George Clooney or the Beckhams at Prince Philip or the Queen's funeral is... mistaken.

r402 events like this are always streamed on these news stations Youtube pages. If anyone has an issue finding a channel that's playing this due to a lack of cable, check out YouTube, I guarantee there will be a love stream.

[quote]Plus, due to COVID, there won't be the usual dignitaries to make fools of themselves or people like Posh & Becks, George & Amal to make fun

the funniest story I read about Prince Philip was during the Jubilee a few years ago. They placed large gaudy ornate thrones, covered in red velvet and gold thread, in front of the dais for TQ & PP to sit on. They didn't though - they insisted on standing behind them the entire time.

When asked why they didn't take their seats, PP retorted, "Are you mad? We didn't want to look like Mr & Mrs Beckham up there!". Hilarious that not only did they have the foresight not to look badly in public, but that he knew who Becks & Posh were and knew about their infamous 'throne photos' at their ridiculously tacky wedding years earlier.

All those Royal connections r414 yet he was still relatively a broke bitch when he snagged Elizabeth. I'm not sure having a family line that boasts of fucking your cousins is all that great, especially if they can't lend you a coin after your country gives you the boot.

So which is it for Markle: she didn't go to avoid being the centre of attention (someone with better PR advisors might have messaged it as she didn't want to be a distraction) or she couldn't go because of doctor's orders?

And what colour is Omid Scobie's eye shadow?

"Ready to forgive," too funny. She really is a character out of a Jackie Collins novel. I wish Jackie was still around to write a smutty roman a clef about her. Dominick Dunne, too, would have LOVED Meghan!

[quote]When Charles is coronated about 6 months to a year later

R416 Coronated? That was so odd, I looked it up, thinking that you mean crowned. Motherfuckin' shazam! You're right!

R419 I liked the one where Philip says he's on his way to a clockmakers' event or something, and says, "I always like to be a little late for them." The old man got off some good one-liners.

[quote]Dominick Dunne, too, would have LOVED Meghan!

If he'd taken a dim view of her, his writing would have been hugely entertaining. I suppose he would have, no matter his private feelings... she would be good for.business.

R425 He was quoted as saying something to the effect of "I like climbers. They interest me." He freely admitted to being one himself.

R366 - The PM surrendered his invitation to allow more family to attend given the 30-guest limit.

Philip has cousins who are still alive, notably the current holder of the Mountbatten of Burma earldom, Norton Knatchbull, and Lady Pamela Hicks, who I think must also be ninety, at least..

Some sort of repast or reception is customary at most funerals, I cannot imagine there won't be a private one in this case, though COVID restrictions may give more thankful cover, again.

R348 - No, Meghan isn't quite "powerful" but she has wrought significant damage to Harry's family. And, as everyone predicted she would, she has managed to insert herself into the funeral from a distance, claiming that she and Philip had a close bond, that she adored him, and that she's "willing to forgive the royals and more forward" . . .

The remarks are intended to be painful, insulting, and to ensure no rifts are healed, because she doesn't want Harry back in the bosom of his family.

She is powerful enough to use her PR mouthpieces to inflict pain and anger on people in the midst of profound grief.

The topic of the thread is attendance at Philip's funeral: fixation on Harry's and/or Meghan's presence or absence has, willy-nilly, a place in the discussions.

She and Harry are now hugely famous narcissistic sociopaths capable of, and willing to, inflict huge amounts of damage on a family and an institution.

Their loathsome, selfish, destructive personae are therefore quite on topic.

[quote]Some sort of repast or reception is customary at most funerals, I cannot imagine there won't be a private one in this case

As opposed the Royal Family's usual custom of webcasting their repasts and receptions?

Pamela Hicks is 92, I think. If you're into podcasts she did one with her daughter, India Hicks, that is pretty entertaining... just to listen to her talk with the marbles in her throat and perpetual stiff upper lip.

I'm wondering what it is that they're going to be showing on television. Early on, even before he actually died, it was said that he planned a funeral for himself that was private and low-key, and because it was all within the castle gates, nothing would be visible to the public and they were asked not to bother gathering. Now it sounds like they're souping it up and making a show? People here keep saying that the British certainly "do pomp and pageantry well," but if that's what's happening on Saturday, it's not what he wanted.

I don't know where this notion of a private funeral comes from. He said nothing of the sort. It's being conducted with respect for COVID limitations but other than that as he wished... From the Telegraph, which is a reliably connected broadsheet:

"The Duke left strict instructions that he should have a relatively low-key funeral in his final wishes, swapping a formal lying-in-state for commemorations remembering his military ties and charity patronages.

The Duke, who hated “fuss” and took a no-nonsense approach to life, had planned a Royal ceremonial funeral, rather than a State funeral, giving him the same status as Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother."

R415, 14 year olds aare rarely that drunk in the company of parents. Consider his actions in light of the Nazi costume and Oprah. Still so funny? And if it is, perhaps you are on the spath spectrum as well.

R430 Once you are dead you become a possession of your next of kin, they can totally ignore your funeral wishes if they like.

The Royal Family seem to be trying to accommodate and adapt his plans to conform with current restrictions.

His call for a royal ceremonial funeral is not a call for a private funeral.

This is a significant moment in the life of the nation, typically broadcast. The only thing unusual is the limits on the crowd and the reason is obvious.

[quote] She is powerful enough to use her PR mouthpieces to inflict pain and anger on people in the midst of profound grief.

I also blame the media for reporting what she says. They are assisting her.

Harry seems to be intellectually and emotionally challenged. I'm not saying that to be cruel--he genuinely seems to have some level of disability. I watched about half of the interview he had with James Corden and had to turn it off because it was so uncomfortable. I think that's the first time I've seen him speak for any length of time.

My guess is that William has always been extra protective of him because of his challenges. I don't like Meghan, but I do think she's the brains of that operation. She's well-spoken and canny.

Anyway, I hope there's no drama at the funeral and that his family is kind to him. I suspect that they are more concerned about his well-being than they are mad at him.

She said she's willing to forgive, why not accept that and move on? Why must you all make a bigger fuss out of this? It's better to withdraw the knives on both sides and move forward in piece rather then continue on. Sure, she could have been silent but she's not a Royal anymore so she's free to speak her mind.

Hi Sunshine Sucks at R437!

In fairness to the Duchess of Cambridge a google search indicates that she no longer smokes.

I stand corrected and apologize. I was going on information that I read in the past.

[quote]She said she's willing to forgive, why not accept that and move on?

R437 For the basic reason that one does not empower a pathological narcissist by pandering to her fantasies. Like her "close relationship" with Prince Philip or her "adoring" him. Calculated ploys concocted to inflict as much damage as possible. As Megs has displayed over and over and over and over again ad nauseum, in the end, it's ALWAYS about her.

R437, even humble non-royals like the Baroness Kilkeel are expected to have a sense of decency. In this instance she has decided that she is unable to keep quiet even in the immediate aftermath of Phillip’s death. Despite herself complaining of Palace spokespeople campaigning against her, she herself is letting her great magnanimity be known through her chosen mouthpieces.

By saying she is willing to forgive, she is implying that she is the victim. And of course no-one is allowed to imply otherwise, at the risk of being tarred as a racist.

She had the choice to at least stay quiet this week. The fact that she didn’t just confirms what her detractors believe her to be.

Fuck off, suck ass Welp Troll at R438.

R423 Please see the link below

[quote]In fairness to the Duchess of Cambridge a google search indicates that she no longer smokes.

That’s because Charlotte kept stealing her fags and selling them on Ebay to desperate fraus who wanted a royal souvenir.

R441 All of this stuff should have never been publicly aired.

She's demonstrated how classless she really is.

Those old Charles and Diana interviews were inappropriate, as well. (and those two should have known better)

Has everyone forgotten the concepts and value of privacy and discretion?

Good to see Muriel nuking the Klan threads. She should ban Surviving Angel for life if she wants this board to get back to where it was pre Meghan.

R444 LOL!!!

GFY, R446

Whether the monarchy stays or goes, Charlotte will survive either way.

I'd like to get this board back to pre R446, whose anger is unjustified but whose every self-doubt is far less than it should be.

Surviving Racist needs to go.

She said .....

I heard ......

He read ........

They know somebody who ......

My Grandma worked with ......

They saw them at ........

R436 They must be genuinely worried about him off in California hanging around with God knows who.

Funnily, Philip is reported to have been closer to Edward than his other two sons. Edward strikes me as sensitive and shy, which were qualities Philip disdained on Charles. You'd think he would be closer to macho Andrew.

In case anyone is wondering what Dim is doing while in quarantine at Frogmore.

Quote from the pull-out tribute to Philip in today's Daily Express: "The great sadness of recent years of course is Megxit, with Harry, the ex-soldier, ladies' man and general good egg, turning into a platitude-spouting Californian and, worse still, criticising his family on television. That will have pierced Philip's heart more than anything else."

The phrase "platitude-spouting Californian" sounds as though it could have come from Philip's own mouth

It's very apt! Not sure about the generous assessment of his previous persona (I always had a somewhat unfavorable impression of him, though he did seem to be "the fun one"), but that phrase encapsulates a lot.

Helen Lawson did not make the cut and she's livid.

Has anyone mentioned Fergie?

[quote] I wonder who at the funeral will cry. Will Her Majesty hold it together?

I learned years ago from my royal subject Peter Allen not to cry out loud. I just keep it inside. l learned how to hide my feelings.

I fly high and proud, and if I should fall, I remember I almost had it all.

Will Koo Stark be there?

Koo will be delivering the randy eulogy!

A friend of Meghan's says she doesn't want to be the "centre of attention" right now but is "willing to forgive" the BRF

DARVO is a typical tactic of narcs.

Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender

They will pry the victim mantle from her cold, dead fingers, everyone else be damned!

Where will Ivanka & Jared Kushner be seated at the funeral?

Meghan's "ready to forgive", is she. So big of her.

She's such an asshole. She and Harry were made for each other.

This type of article was inevitable, and very funny

What has she done to her face? Prior to Hazbean it was not so, err, inflated? On Oprah it was even worse. In what world is becoming moonfaced something to pay for? She and Scobie seem to have the same plastic surgeon, do they actually believe it is attractive?

Such a coincidence Harry arrived back the day the pubs reopened.

[quote]Sarah Chatto

[quote] Who?

You don't know Diana's Maid of Honor, r59?!

That scream never gets old.

But think about it... the screamer is probably past fifty now.

She's pregnant, R468. That's what happened to her face.

She's pregnant and had got fillers beforehand. The combination is why her face looks like a balloon.

I thought Haz was just a mean arrogant pissant and his uncomprehending stare was due to drugs and booze, didn't realize he was disabled. PP steering him into military regulation was a good idea that wirked for awhile; must've been disappointing and concerning for Philip.

Who said he "called" for Harry -- some stupid PR story?

R393

Is David Tyler going to Londontown to report?

This guy is hilarious. I hope he covers the funeral. His Prince Harry videos are also hilarious.

Harry made a deliberate choice not to see his grandfather before his death. Most would have lifelong regrets, not sure he is capable.

The funeral procession.

[quote]Harry made a deliberate choice not to see his grandfather before his death. Most would have lifelong regrets,

I chose to remember him the way he WAS, not as some drugged up skeleton lying in a hospital bed.

Besides, everything in his will was let to Gran, nothing for me.

Uh, sir, I think you better leave the PR statements to the professionals.

^ Forgot to add in my post @R479... those of us in North America should be aware that the procession begins about 20 minutes BEFORE the funeral at 3:00 pm (Windsor time) as per this diagram.

The inhabitants of Vanuatu, who believe that Philip was a god, held a mourning ceremony yesterday:

Will George and Amal be there?

Fucking Markle is willing to forgive. My dear, shut up. I guess you haven't heard that the royal family feels there's nothing to forgive especially from a liar.

And it will be a cold day in Sussex hell before they forgive you.

Get your priorities straight, sweetheart. You are persona non grata from now until forever.

Invite Sarah, Duchess of York.

If she has tow working brain cells and a synapse, she will never return to Britain for as long as she lives.

Hell, if I were her I'd avoid the Commonwealth countries too. The hatred for her is palpable and it's not just in the UK.

Has Barbara been informed of Philip's death?

Meghan Markle's rep denies reports she's impregnated with Prince Philip's sperm and dropped bombshell news to Queen Elizabeth the day of Prince Philip's death.

Why was Philip sympathetic to Diana but not Fergie?

The televised funeral, you know, the big spectacle for the everyone else will take place this Saturday. However, for Markle, Philip's official funeral will take place in Montecito tomorrow--on Wednesday, three days before the big spectacle. Just Markle, Philip, whom she adored and had a special bond, and the Archbishop of Cantebury. And maybe Oprah.

Walters has been informed many, many times. It's news to her each time.

R490, And not great-grandson Archie?

R491, The Kennedy family never informed Rose that Jackie had died.

[quote]Why was Philip sympathetic to Diana but not Fergie?

As stated previously, gingers have no soul.

R489. Diana was mother to the future king. He also knew Charles was having an affair with Camilla and couldn't understand why Charles would leave Diana for Camilla...even though Diana had affairs too, but Charles really never gave up Camilla. As a result, Philip sympathized with Diana. Philip loved Sarah in the beginning and for several years. However, after the the royal family ignored Sarah for years and didn't support her, she made the unfortunate mistake of having a dalliance with another man, and she ended up on the front page of the newspapers. Even though Andrew was away for the better part of five years. It was a lonely and frustrating life, but Philip couldn't find it in his heart to forgive Sarah. In the end, he acknowledged Sarah at Eugenie's wedding and he appeared friendly to her. The queen has always been friendly with her because she knew how hard royal life was for both Sarah and Diana.

[quote]The Kennedy family never informed Rose that Jackie had died.

Rose didn't immediately tell Joe that JFK had been assassinated. He was struggling with declining health from a stroke a few years back and she thought it would kill him.

r489, because Fergie was photographed having her toes sucked by someone who was not her husband. Fergie disgusted Philip. Diana didn't.

R492. Archie is not royal. He's not invited.

R495 From the Queen's standpoint, I suspect Fergie was down-to-earth and a bit fun. Diana would not have been. For that matter, Charles and Wills wouldn't be a barrel of fun, either.

That's cruel, r491. True, but cruel. Come sit next to me.

Ok you guys, where did the amusing thread "Prince Philip is Fead To Me Pt. 3" go? I know I wasn't imagining it.

The Megstans had it removed, r501

No way. Well maybe everyone mived to this thread then. I loved the title. Fanks.

One story that's been around is that HM met privately. with Fergie and asked what she wanted from the divorce, expecting a dollar amount. Instead Fergie knelt, extended her hand and said "Your friendship, ma'am."

Remember that the family had known Fergie since she was a little girl.

For those asking above, requesting a funeral without too much "fuss" doesn't remotely mean that the Duke was expecting a funeral with no recognition of his place in the monarchy over three-quarters of a century.

The funeral he planned out, and his resting place, are in accordance with what is called "ceremonial" rather than "state" funeral. The Queen Mother also got a "ceremonial" rather than "state" funeral.

He was Prince Consort of Queen Elizabeth II, and even a ceremonial rather than state funeral would have included 800 guests.

He would probably be quite pleased at the turn of events, but it isn't as if he was expecting the entirely private affair that, for example, the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret got.

The service will be televised, but the public kept away due to COVID.

Harriet is staying at Frogmore with Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank. I wonder if being around normal, non-psycopathic people (who actually love him and who are not wringing him dry for every drop of fame and money possible) for a whole week will have any impact on his outlook.

[quote]One story that's been around is that HM met privately. with Fergie and asked what she wanted from the divorce, expecting a dollar amount. Instead Fergie knelt, extended her hand and said "Your friendship, ma'am."

Another story is that she answered, "One night per month with Philip and that thick Greek manhood of his." THAT is why Philip turned on her. She was far too old for him.

[quote]but it isn't as if he was expecting the entirely private affair that, for example, the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret got.

Poor Margaret. They cremated her using her favorite cigarette holder.

I find him staying at Nott Cott due to cv restrictions far more plausible, R506. The whole point of quarrantining is to, well, quarrantine.

No worries, R506. If there's the smallest indication that he's shaking his shackles, Mega will risk all and take yet another private jet to be beside her distraught hubby's side! It might need to be done anyway. After all, no one but The Duchess of Hearts could even begin to heal the wounds caused by the virulent, rampant racism in the United Kingdom and the death of her beloved Phillip!

Hope eagle eyes will be able to spot through the Covid mask if Harry is blinking HELP ME or RESCUE ME during the funeral.

If the Queen remained friendly with Fergie after the divorce, why was Fergie not invited to family gatherings such as Christmases at Balmoral?

It would not have been awkward, snce Fergie and Andrew remained friendly after the divorce.

Don't open any Fed Ex packages, Harry. You might find some rings and divorce papers.

[quote]If the Queen remained friendly with Fergie after the divorce, why was Fergie not invited to family gatherings such as Christmases at Balmoral?

Philip wouldn't allow it. There were several instances where Fergie was invited to be with the Queen until Philip arrived.

Philip did not care for her, R512.

Philip forbade her to be in the same room with him. The toe-sucking was beyond the pale for him.

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Christmas is at Sandringham, summer at Balmoral. And HM had Fergie up for several days every summer but not when Philip was in residence.

[quote]If there's the smallest indication that he's shaking his shackles, Mega will risk all and take yet another private jet to be beside her distraught hubby's side!

She'll go into false labor on Friday, forcing Dimwit to rush back to her side.

It sounds as though Beatrice and Eugenie may be Harry's last allies left in the BRF. I wonder if that's why he and Meghan didn't bring up the Epstein scandal during the interview - they didn't want to alienate them. I was fully expecting them to accuse the BRF of leaking negative stories about Meghan to distract the public from Andrew (and, given how deservedly unpopular Andrew is, that could have won them quite a bit of sympathy).

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R519, That might be included in the hour of the interview that Oprah had to edit for broadcast due to time restraints.

I expect that the family had discussions as to how to deal with harry on his return and it was Eugenie who they felt would be the most benign host. I mean she's not a Working Royal and I expect she and her husband Jack can just keep a light banter going through the day without touching on any hot-button issues.

r487 I sadly suspect that Barbara Walters will be another big name famous person who we will lose this year.

R523, Better her than me.

Meghan LITERALLY killed Philip!

Gayle King on Philip's death:

Harry is quarrantining due to cv regulations. He is not staying with anyone, never mind a newborn. Quarrantining is just that.

Here's my guest list:

The Queen Charles & Camilla Anne & TIm Andrew Edward & Sophie William & Kate Harry Beatrice & Eugenie Zara & Peter Louise & James Princess Alexandra Sara Chatto & David Snowden Up to 12 people who are related to Philip (i.e. Knatchbull family) and/or friends with Philip

Thats it folks. Lots of spouses won't be in attendance. And there's just no room for the Gloucesters or Kents.

Conflicting story about Hal's quarantine: first Not Cot then Froggy Holler.

Latest news: Harry will be flying back to pregnant Muggins very soon after the funeral.

Frogmore Cottage is big enough where Harry can self-isolate and not come in contact with Eugenie, Jack and August. Harry can be in a separate part of the house. Harry and Eugenie can still talk socially distanced. I'm sure there is a large enough room when Harry and Eugenie escape to far enough apart from each other and away from her husband and son. Because you just know they're gonna talk.

By the way, where do Beatrice and Edoardo live. St. James Palace?

R527 Actually he can stay "with friends or family."

I heard that Beatrice & her husband live at Royal Lodge.

Eugenie could have a positive effect on Harry's messed up brain, if only he would stay in the UK a little longer. Although he may leave shortly after the funeral. So much for "supporting" the queen. He could hang out with his grandmother for a while. She hasn't seen him in over a year. And if Harry leaves too soon after the funeral, the divide between he and Wills won't be repaired at all.

The Kents are related to Philip via their mother Princess Marina, who was a ‘Greek’ princess (actually ‘Danish’ and German), they might be on the list without spouses.

Princess Beatrice and Edoardo currently live at St James’s Palace in London. Beatrice has lived at the property for a number of years. The property is convenient for them as Edo’s son Wolfie lives close by in West London.

Also on that topic, R493 and R496: Rose Kennedy's mother turned 98 a few weeks before JFK's assassination in November '63. She lived until the following August but was never informed of her grandson's death.

I find the reports that Harry is at Nott Cott more plausible.

R536, No newspapers, radio or television for Grandma Fitzgerald for 9 months?

I do not see how a repair in the rx is possible at this time, R533. Harry was demanding a public apology from the family to MeAgain within days of Philip's death. He had not appeared regretful or repentant, in fact he arrived in the UK with a grin. Everyone will rightly assume that all communications are being recorded or soon to be shared with Gayle King.

Given that Philip was hospitalized the very next day after the family was told about Oprah, his funeral weeks later is really not the time for anyone to be in a forgiving mood.

I would prefer it if the service was not televised, gives Hazbean an opportunity to be disruptive. Any platforms are regretable at this time.

At Diana's funeral, cameras were not allowed to show the royal family, once seated.

Nott Cottage? I can't imagine that William wants Harry within the grounds of Kensington Palace. Why, it may come to fisticuffs!

Harry probably prefers to be staying at Frogmore Cottage in Windsor. I don't think Harry wants to be at Nott Cott which is on the grounds of Kensington Palace where Will and Kate live. Harry is too chicken shit to run into them. By staying at Frog Cott, Harry can avoid them until the funeral where there will be no talking.

Remember the little "tiff" Dim had in front of his own family, courtiers, diplomats, and entire Trump official party on the U.S. President's visit to BP? Dim had his nose out of joint because he wasn't included in the immediate BRF party and Trump party who were viewing the various royal artifacts at they were entering BP formal reception room. No, no, not for Harry. He had to make a big deal out of it, out of being 'snubbed' in his own mind, and made sure everyone knew, every family member, every courtier, every diplomat, every Trump party member - **everyone** had to know that Harry was NOT HAPPY at being included in the BRF official welcome party to the Trumps at BP. Cameras caught Harry telling off a courtier.

Remind you of anyone else? Clue: Wimbledon.

Correction: NOT HAPPY at "not being included in the BRF official welcome

No, I remember seeing the video of that incident and being utterly surprised at how much people were reading into a brief clip in which a man walks into a room, people look at him, and he walks out the other way.

R543, is that the one where he and his wife tried to follow The Queen into the room to look at the table of relics and William snapped at him “Not allowed!” ?

I love that one. Say it to my cat all the time. With the accent.

So he's staying on grounds owned by people he's accused of being not only racist but purposely subjecting he, his wife and child to probable and potential danger, as well? My goodness. How gracious of him!

Kidding! He and wifey are really desperate for Granny and Daddy to cough up some money, aren't they?

Yes, r546.

I do not find it plausible he is quarrantining with a newborn or that he displaced the family of a newborn. Reports of Nott Cott seem more plausible. And being alone is more consistent with quarrantine. I do not think it is at all likely that he is staying with a cousin or that he is at Frogmore.

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No, r546, that was a special display that honored Charles' investiture as PoW and only HM, the curent and the future PoW and wives were invited to inspect it close up.

The State Dinner for Trump would have been Megs' first tiara event but, in accordance with standard protocol, they weren't invited (not high enough up the food chain). M was also miffed because because she wanted to wear a tiara to a dinner on their Australian tour but she was told by BP that the dinner was not considered a tiara event so she wasn't lent one.

Typical narcs the two of them, looking for ways to be offended so they can be victims.

No, the POW incident was different than the Trump visit. They act out a lot.

William and his family are at Amner Hall. Harry is at Nott Cott at Kensington Palace.

R546 described the PoW incident and asked if that was the Trump visit. No it wasn't. Correct, two different incidents but r546 confused them.

R549. If the reports are true that Harry has had contact with Eugenie, then he's probably at Frogmore where she lives. They are all laying low and not traveling around. They are very much aware that the press is watching their every move especially during COVID. They don't want any bad press before the funeral. Frogmore is big enough that Harry can be in one part of the house, while Eugenie and family are in another part of the house. "Quarantine" does not mean being in solitary confinement. It means following safety guidelines so that you are keeping your distance. If Harry had to "self-isolate," then that's different. Self-isolating means you are totally alone. And if Harry is vaccinated, "quarantining" in a separate part of the house is sufficient. And even if he's not vaccinated, you can still quarantine safely without being in solitary confinement.

R555, A little googling would’ve denied me the pleasure of telling you you’re full of shit.

Here are the rules for quarantining in the UK:

What you can and cannot do in quarantine Quarantine can include staying:

in your own home with friends or family in a hotel or other temporary accommodation that is not a managed quarantine hotel You must quarantine in one place for the full quarantine period, where you can have food and other necessities delivered.

You must quarantine at the address you provided on the passenger locator form.

Visitors You cannot have visitors, including friends and family, unless they’re providing:

emergency assistance care or assistance, including personal care medical assistance veterinary services certain critical public services

There are many reports of him being at Nott Cott at Kensington Palace, R555. He used to live there after all. WIlliam and family are in the country.

Speaking to someone on the phone and staying with them and a newborn are different things. He did not use to live with her, why would he stay with her and a tiny baby? Plus it is MeAgain leaking that they spoke, so, who knows?

I cannot imagine anyone in the family keeping Harry at anything but a very polite distance given that they loved Philip and love the Queen and have been put through hell by the Gruesome Twosome in his final weeks. Disgusting behavior.

Believe what you like, this is not some broke person crashing with the only person he knows in a strange town, Nott Cott is empty and a former residence. No reason for Harry to be at Windsor right now and theree are numerous reports of him at Kensington Palace in Nottingham Cottage before the funeral.

There are just as many reports that Harry is staying at Frog Cott as there are that he is staying at Nott Cott. Wherever he is, he's avoiding William like the Plague--never mind COVID.

If Wills and Harry don't see each other until the funeral, then this trip will have accomplished nothing as far helping to fix a broken family especially if Harry leaves shortly after the funeral. Phone calls do nothing if they are even speaking to each other. Markle needs to back off and give them some time together, but that probably won't happen.

The stories about Frogmore seem to be those where Sunshine Sucks commonly places stories. MeAgain is likely trying to create the impression that some in the family support them. Given the consequences of their actions for the Queen and Prince Philip, unlikely. And now they have all been branded as racists as well.

William and his family have been in the country for the pandemic so Harry is isolated AND quarrantined at Kensington Palace. If at Windsor he might give another ghastly interview in front of the stables like a loon or attempt to confront his grandmother and demand that public apology for MeAgain or cash, who KNOWS what he might do? Best to keep him right in his old bachelor pad with no one around.

According to a well sourced journalist /royal correspondent from the Daily Mirror Princess Alexandra and the Duchess of Kent both of whom I was concerned may have health problems that prevented them from attending Prince Philips funeral WILL be attending on Saturday. List of guests given after 53.30 minutes in.

How would that advance her goals, R558?

Thanks, R560, happy their health allows them to attend.

Why the SS/Sussexes want to keep linking their name with Froggy Cottage is beyond me. Unless they’re trying to remind the public that they DO have a “home” in England, after all. I don’t believe that Harry is staying there, either.

I’m going to laugh my ass off when he ducks out directly after the funeral service.

If it weren't for the money and English titles, I'd think this family drama were taking place in Butcher Hollow.

I resent that, R564.

The term is "Dogpatch,"

Butcher Holler.

Oh, dear. All of those wealthy, titled, sickly people who might need someone to will their estate or money to after they kick off and Dim and Mega have called them all a bunch of RACISTS! And just so recently, too. And now, in need of money so badly they're publicly "accepting apologies" all around from the grief-stricken and either claiming a loving familiarity with the deceased that didn't exist or one that did exist but was shat all over.

They drew out their master plan in crayon, didn't they?

I want to see Edo!

The Sussex idiots mis-timed their return to mediocrity,

HM The Queen, will appreciate be forced to stand alone at the funeral.

It seems cruel, I hope they can find a way to work around it.

Where the fuck did 'appreciate' come from? I've been hacked by the Harkles.

One wonders why Pa-Pah is sniffing his finger in OP's picture.

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[quote] A friend of Meghan's says she doesn't want to be the "centre of attention" right now but is "willing to forgive" the BRF

Wow. That is SO big of her!

Everything's better now.

Why is the media promoting this breathless narrative to the effect that it's imperative for Wills + Harry to come together in forgiveness, and it's all so suspenseful as to whether this "broken family can come together" on this precious opportunity with Harry coming across the pond? The BRF is not broken. They're fine. Harry excised himself from it in spectacularly destructive and stupid fashion, but why must Prince Philip's funeral be pitched as a CRUCIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR MENDING AND HEALING A TRAGIC RIFT? Why do we have to be in suspense as to whether this CHANCE WILL BE LOST??? It's ridiculous.

[quote] Remember that the family had known Fergie since she was a little girl.

Fergie's father, Major Ronald Ferguson, was first Philip's and then Charles' polo manager for many years. The families weren't close but they were very friendly and Fergie played with the royal children as a child. As they grew up, they all ran in the same social circles. The Fergusons weren't titled but they descended from aristocrats and were well off "landed gentry" as Fergie once described it. Fergie herself was directly descended from Charles I through illegitimate offspring and she and Andrew are very distantly related through other Royal ancestors.

Feegie's mother abandoned the family when Fergie was in her teens and ran off with an Argentinean polo player. Fergie has traced the beginnings of her bulimia to dealing with that experience.

Agree wholeheartedly, R574. The service should be dignified and focused on Philip, of course. Hopefully this will not be another opportunity for Harrry to act out and humiliate his family, he has done so for decades.

R574. People think that perhaps now that Harry is in the same country, he can start to reconcile a bit with his brother and father. No one thinks that any discussion can happen before the funeral. This week and the day of the funeral the focus should be on Philip and the queen.

However, if Harry were to stay beyond the funeral, perhaps even a few days, there might be a possibility for some reconciliation. However, if Harry leaves the UK shortly after the funeral, any chance of reconciliation will have vanished for some time to come because you can't reconcile over the phone half a world away. I believe people are thinking that Harry and his brother and father may want to be friends. But if Harry doesn't allow the three of them to talk, then yes, the opportunity is missed for the foreseeable future and the animosity remains.

[quote]Feegie's mother abandoned the family when Fergie was in her teens and ran off with an Argentinean polo player.

Love it.

There is no sign whatsoever that Harry regrets what he has done, R577. Surely that would be required?

Yes, R577, I get what people are thinking, but WHY? WHY would it be imperative for there to be reconciliation, especially so soon after behavior by the Sussexes that is just about unforgivable? WHY does this visit by Harry JUST HAVE TO BE an opportunity for "coming together"? WHY would it be A TERRIBLE SHAME if that doesn't happen on this trip? It's asinine.

Didn't Fergie in good faith believe she was in private behind a wall or fence while cavorting with the Texas Toe-Sucker? Didn't some paparazzo get the shot through a fence, or something? I think Phil was hard on her, it's not like she was deliberately making an exhibition of herself . . . He forgave Chucko for the tampon thing.

R579. No, Harry doesn't have to regret anything. He can stick by his decision to move away. I just think there is a general assumption that perhaps he, William and Charles might want to get along at some point and at the end of this week might be a good starting point. Sometimes families do try and make amends with each other eventually. It doesn't mean that Harry has to regret sticking by his wife (as horrible as she is). But what are they all going to do--not talk to each other forever...or have this stalemate go on for another year? Who knows...maybe they don't care if they talk.

But he did not just move away, R582. Are you familiar with the Oprah interview and the strong arm tactics and leaking of private calls that followed? And the fact that Philip was hospitalized the very next day after the family was told about the interview? And that despite knowing Philip was dying and making a big drama about a jet on standby, Harry did not go to see him before his death?

R581. Yes, the paparazzi tracked Sarah down. They were ruthless in their pursuit to embarrass her. The press loved Sarah until they didn't, like most of the royals. But they were especially mean to her. She has amazing perseverance to have bounced back over the years and still maintain a fairly upbeat personality.

The family has nothing to apologize for after spending millions on that duplicitous bitch while bending over backwards to cover up her outrageous behavior, just as they have spent decades doing for Harry.

Nobody in that dysfunctional family is putting up with the gruesome twosome's shit any more. He better be in and out very quick and not cause any more problems while he's there.

The two still think they still have cards to play. They are so naive. The family has not yet brought out the big guns.

The issue of trust is touched on in this vid.

R583. Yes, I am familiar with it all. Very familiar. Harry's a selfish punk who behaved horribly along with his wife. But you can break the ice until someone starts talking. But for all the speculation, maybe they all don't care whether or not they talk...or maybe they think that over time it will all be sorted out. It just seems that they are at an impasse now. Harry doesn't need their money any longer. He's got his own via Spotify and Netflix at least for a while. Bottom line is he and his wife self-aggrandizing idiots who overplayed their hand and caused international embarrassment. I guess the thought was that possibly they all might want to come to some sort of a meeting of the minds. But maybe not. Maybe they all don't really care at the moment.

R587, they were demanding a public apology from the familly to Meghan immediately before Philip's death. Harry had Gayle King parrot private conversations on American televisoin. Harry DOES want their money and his wife wants titles and I think they both want to burn it all down if they cannot rule themselves. The family has few cards to play. It is extremely likely that the most innocuous comments will be relayed to Meghan's mouthpieces like Scobie.

If it were my family it would be hard to get past the fact that their actions may have hastened Philip's death and caused tremendous stress for the Queen in particular, an elderly woman whose husband was dying. Instead, any moment that was spent strategizing about the Terrible Twosome was literally robbed from the family's final weeks with Phillip.

The rebuilding of trust would have to begin with actions by Harry, he is the one who broke it, not just with the interview, ghastly as that was branding the whole family as racist, but leaking private call content to Gayle King. That was just a few weeks ago.

I am quite sure that there is still love for and worry for Harry. Had he come to see Philip before his death, that would have been a gesture. Perhaps he will choose to behave appropriately at the funeral, one can only hope. Markle has kept her PR placing stories this week, she is likely to do somethng to draw further attention to herself, these types always do.

It has nothing to do with Harry moving away, I am sure that was quite a RELIEF.

It's all so embarrassing.

When people have acted destructively and with malice towards you, your family and the life's work of your family, on a global scale, it would take actions by the offender to rebuild trust if that is even possible. When he claims the mantle of victim and deplanes with a grin, ball is in his court.

This will be the recessional on Saturday . . .

I found it hard to believe it, too, R538 - but here it is on the front page of the New York Times. Given Mrs. Fitzgerald's age and that era, it may be that she was senile and the newspaper either didn't know or didn't publicise that.

Now even the NY Times prints typos! R592 "...Was Hot Told..."

The first one that I saw from the NYT was "feyonce" instead of "fiancé."

Will the funeral service inside the church be broadcast or only the outside portion?

R594 At the moment, TV cameras will not be allowed inside St. George's Chapel. So we'll all miss the spectacle of Wills, his sibs, and cousins rolling around on the floor beating the living fuck outta Ginger.

^^^^ aunts, uncles, not sibs)

Ahem...Part 2 please anyone? Fank you!

Link to Part 2

Thanks for correcting me, r554. Can't keep up with all the Sussex dysfunction.

Last comment on this thread (maybe) - Queen is back to work just days after Philip's death.

I couldn't help but chuckle with the recent media plant (by U No Who) that Meghan will be on mat leave starting May. Makes the Sussexes look so full of themselves, lazy and downright delusional. Oh - and you're not "serving" like you were when you were a Real Royal so no one cares if MM is on leave, on holiday, shopping, dusting, driving, swimming, eating, farting, sleeping, cooking, gardening, birthing, ranting, scheming, fighting, laughing,

No. One. Cares.