Still waiting for first shot. P or M?
Which vaccine do you prefer to receive?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/07/2021|
My first choice was Moderna but I got Pfizer which is fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/07/2021|
J and J hell no.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/07/2021|
I got mine in the ass. It was exhilarating.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/07/2021|
Why would one prefer Moderna?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/07/2021|
I am in unvaccinated Europe and I'll take what I can get. Sheesh! What's the holdup?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/07/2021|
J and J, I have stock in Merck and they are producing this one. GO MERCK!!
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/07/2021|
Pfizer, Moderna. Porsche, Miata.
What difference is there?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/07/2021|
R9, the first 2 are COVID vaccines and the latter 2 are cars. Huge difference.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/07/2021|
To all the JNJ skeptics out there, the vaccine is just as effective overall as Pfizer or Moderna. In terms of protecting against variants and 100% protection against hospitalizations. For a one and done, I am pleased and will sooner than later have a normal living pattern again.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/07/2021|
If I can trust Pfizer with my dick, I can trust them with a vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/07/2021|
Anything at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/07/2021|
I think the vaccine will cause infertility. I don't have proof. It is a feeling that I have. I will definitely not be taking it.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/07/2021|
Sexy, R1. You like to live dangerously! Do you also breed venomous reptiles under your bed?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/07/2021|
I don't care which one. They opened to over 50 (I just turned 51) and Colorado opened to everyone a week later, so now it is a free for all when it comes to appointments, and I haven't been able to get one yet.
I'm not in a huge hurry, but it is annoying that my age bracket finally came up - for one week.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/07/2021|
I want the J&J, one and done.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/07/2021|
R14, feelings are not evidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/07/2021|
I have a feeling that people who take the MRNA vaccines and decide to have children will give rise to a race of super human mutants who will be our ultimate doom.
But it's just a feeling.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/07/2021|
I had Moderna for both shots.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/07/2021|
I wanted the JJ and thought I was getting it but when I checked in, I found out it was Moderna. I thought about leaving but decided to get whatever was offered. My bf got the JJ shot today at the same place. My 2nd shot is next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/07/2021|
I got Pfizer and it has given my hair a beautiful healthy sheen.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/07/2021|
It's the Dolly Parton vaccine silly r6.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/07/2021|
I flew to motherland to get Sputnik vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/07/2021|
I just got my 2nd Pfizer dose today. It was about 6 hours ago. I feel fine
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/07/2021|
Got my first Pfizer dose today. All is well and I barely even felt the needle go in.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/07/2021|
Pfizer is the gold standard.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/07/2021|
Got my 2nd Pfizer vax a couple days ago. Same side effects, sleepy and the chills.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/07/2021|
I prefer P.
M is garbage.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/07/2021|
The JNJ and AZ vaccines are significantly less efficacious than the mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) for initial infection, so r11 is full of shit and is disseminating misinformation. Shame on you.
While the data from clinical trials do show that they all succeed at preventing hospitalizations -- which is fantastic -- one third of those receiving vaccination with JNJ or AZ risk contracting COVID-19 disease. Of those patients, 80% present with an array of often severe long-term effects with permanent organ damage. Google it. Is that risk acceptable to you? As a research immunologist since the early 1980's (AIDS/HIV), I'm going to ask a stark question: Do you bareback bottom because the current anti-viral drugs will "save" you in case you contract HIV? Are you willing to risk the long-term side effects of HIV infection.
But make no mistake: ANY OF THESE VACCINES IS BETTER THAN NONE. Get vaccinated, STAT. For those who got stuck (pun intended) with the JNJ, don't worry. Boosters are in our future.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/07/2021|
The value of the JNJ jab is that it is relatively stable (longer shelf-life) and is single-dose, so that it is easier to store, ship, and gain compliance among the populace. The difference between the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is in the type of lipids they chose as vehicles to deliver/solubilize mRNA. Moderna's version is somewhat more stable than Pfizer's, so there is somewhat less risk of spoilage or mishandling. Otherwise, they are identical. Clinical trials were designed such that Pfizer's two doses were administered over three weeks and Moderna's over four. I got the Moderna last week because that's what was available in my area at the time. Arm still hurts. Unlike my experience with other shots. Human immune systems have never seen this thing.
Disclosure: I worked for many years at Pfizer. (No, a bowl of Viagra was not sitting in the lunchroom, but we got all Pfizer drugs for free and I took full advantage of that). Dear old friends/colleagues ended up at Moderna, JNJ, and Astra-Zeneca. Pfizer's board of directors and shareholders lead the pack as the greediest of Big Pharma. I'm proud of little underdog Moderna for leading the way with the messenger RNA approach to immunizations. This is a triumph for medical science. Pfizer's strength is its manufacturing and distribution capacity.
The greatest risk to humanity is the group of people who refuse or do not have access to vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 (that's the name of the virus. COVID-19 is the disease it causes) which will perpetuate the pandemic and enable the spread of mutated strains.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/07/2021|
Because this is the Datalounge, entertaining me since 1998 -- hello Claire and bread pudding -- I feel compelled to dish.
First, the personal stuff. As an immunology scientist (with undergrad education in ecology and evolutionary biology) who survived and did lab research with patients' blood and live, purified HIV during the AIDS epidemic, the onset of this pandemic was my worst nightmare on so many levels. My work immediately shifted from oncology to CO
VID, and I went into work during lockdown. Kept my staff at home. It was surreal. I was scared shitless for the first time for myself (high risk categories) and was/is terrified for my loved ones and for humans in general. We are rapidly suffering from the consequences of overpopulation. Period.
The dish: As a powerful NIH virologist who was on a committee that reviewed HIV grant applications, Tony "The Weasel" Faucci was an opportunistic prick who would reject grant applications and then publish work that his lab did which was based on the ideas we had proposed. Any AIDS immunologist from those days will say the same. He's been a passive, milquetoast wimp of a leader ("I'm a bit concerned that..." "It wouldn't be so good if..." rather than "FUCK TRUMP! WEAR YOUR FUCKING MASKS NOW, OR DIE!" who clearly relishes his celebrity. He is not a hero. He is not a strong leader. Meanwhile, I had no interaction with the failed, murderous cunt and Trump enabler, Deborah Birx, MD, during the AIDS epidemic. I do know that people in positions of influence and power should be held accountable for their actions and inactions. History will not be kind to her. Richard Bright, PhD. Never heard of him until he became a whistleblower in front of congress. What a hot silver daddy, even though he's a few years my junior. Details about his personal life are sealed (wisely) tightly. Don't know if he's gay. Hope so. We share freakishly similar specialties from the early days of our careers and know a lot of people in common. Will be retiring soon. Unlikely our paths will ever cross.
Wear your masks. Get vaccinated. Keep caution and wear masks until we know more about variants. Be kind.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/07/2021|
Once vaccinated, I feel like we are going to maybe have six months of “freedom” and then variants will cause another lockdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/07/2021|
Pfizer or Moderna.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/07/2021|
[quote]The greatest risk to humanity is the group of people who refuse or do not have access to vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 (that's the name of the virus. COVID-19 is the disease it causes) which will perpetuate the pandemic and enable the spread of mutated strains.
I don't understand this. Epidemics eventually die out, even those where vaccines were not developed. I thought that mutated viruses are weaker. What makes this coronavirus doomed to last eternally unless everyone is vaccinated? Is it because this virus was possibly made in a lab? The doomsday prognosis is frightening, but I'm still holding out hope that all will be well within a few months.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/07/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/07/2021|
"Is it because this virus was possibly made in a lab? "
Wow, the right-wing conspirist propaganda has permeated and it's what will kill us. You are ignorant. You will kill us.
Epidemics (chicken pox, rubella, German Measles, etc. "usually die out" because babies are all routinely vaccinated. Not because viruses mutate to their own detriment. Surviving viruses (and other organisms) survive and propagate because the mutations are favorable to their propagation.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/07/2021|
R38 Then how do you explain the origin of virus is in the Wuhan wet market that is just next to the P4 lab. What are the chances?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/07/2021|
R14, The vaccines do not cause infertility. But death by Covid certainly does cause infertility.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/07/2021|
One of my favorite baristas isn't getting a vaccine. I don't think she's an anti-vaxxer per se, she said something like I'm very conscious of what I put into my body for health reasons.
I don't know her all that well, but I'm still trying to find a way to convince her that it would be more beneficial for her body to get a shot rather than try to fight covid without any immunity.
I got my first dose of Pfizer on Monday and just had a sore arm.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/07/2021|
R16, if you're in the Boulder-Denver area sign up for an account at bch.org (you don't have to be a member; anyone can sign up), then once it's active, click on the drop-down menu at the top left of the MyBCH Homepage, and click on "Schedule an appointment" - the sign up for the covid vaccine is in one of the bottom boxes on the right. There are tons of open slots for appointments. Just got my first shot yesterday (Pfizer) and the whole process was really quick.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/07/2021|
Whichever one is available.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/07/2021|