Continue on...part one below.
The Trial of Derek Chauvin, P2
|by Anonymous||reply 356||20 hours ago|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/01/2021|
I think the hot paramedic scared off the defense attorney. Ha. Ha.
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|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/01/2021|
Seth the paramedic is so hot and sweet! He really turned me on a made me feel alive today.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/01/2021|
I'm waiting for a George Floyd Remembrance Day, national holiday to celebrate the life of a drug dealer, convict. All those weeping people on the witness stand are obviously crying because they won't see a cent of that twenty seven million dollars.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/01/2021|
Because I have r5 blocked, I assume the trolls have already descended on this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/01/2021|
I have blocked him/her as well. I do not know if it is one vile motherfucker or many with sock puppet accounts, but I have for the first time started blocking the racists, ant-vaxers, homophobic, ect. trolls on DL. Muriel should step up and end this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/01/2021|
It's really been out of control the past few days r7. Muriel deleted the UberEats thread on Sunday/Monday (it got reposted), but since then, I've seen little real moderation.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/01/2021|
I would gladly pay more money to be a member if we had more help here with these hateful, divisive trolls. I feel we have to confront them because we have a moral responsibly to not let them influence our young here on DL. I am also proud as hell of the people here who very intelligently and effectively do just that. Yet I know how exhausting that must be. I try but I have a temper and so I am not as effective as most here. I am so proud of my fellow DL'ers. 😊
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/01/2021|
Looks like the defense gave up. They are listless and basically proving the prosecution's case. Wow.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/01/2021|
R8 Once again, the Uber thread wasn’t “reposted.” I posted the story originally and then someone else posted it. It’s not unusual for the same story to be posted on the DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/01/2021|
Whatever, r10. Ultimately, that's not the point. One thread stayed, and one was deleted. They were both chock full of racist garbage, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/01/2021|
R12's going crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/01/2021|
Whatever, r11. Ultimately, that's not the point. One thread stayed, and one was deleted. They were both chock full of racist garbage, though.
Apologies to r10!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/01/2021|
I admit I haven't followed this case all that closely, but I don't understand what Floyd having a drug problem has to do with his death. Even if the drugs in his system increased the likelihood of death, surely the only thing that matters legally is that if Chauvin hadn't knelt on his neck, he would still be alive?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/01/2021|
Yes please let's talk about the hot ginger EMT, he was too fine and I usually go ethnic.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/01/2021|
R15- They can not defend his death, not 9 damn minutes choking off oxygen to a human being. They are trained in this. They knew exactly what they were doing. I have no idea why he isn't charged with first degree murder. This will be another "put the victim on trial" defense. It is despicable, but honestly all the defense has . Jmo
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/01/2021|
I'm not watching any of the trial, our local news have snippets . I was surprised, tuned into BBC World News and they were carrying the trial.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/01/2021|
Derek Chauvin must be found guilty. He knew exactly what he was doing. He had multiple people screaming at him to stop what he was doing. If he had just moved his knee, George Floyd would still be alive today. But no. He wanted to show what a big, strong, masculine MAN he was by flaunting his authority. And he thought he could away with it because it was a black man and nobody cares what you do to a black person. Well, he needs to see he is wrong and suffer consequences for it. We need to show everyone that cops are not above the law and that racism will not be tolerated in this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/01/2021|
This is why the psycho cops think they can kill without question, because they have been allowed to for so long. Cell phone cameras play a hugh part in the public becoming aware of just how dangerous these cops have become, imo. You are right that they have to be shown those days are over and they will be held accountable for their actions. That it has been allowed to go on this long is a travesty. Black, white, yellow, brown- doesn't matter- that man was an america citizen executed on the street by the very people we pay to protect us. A fucking travesty. That was cold blooded murder.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/01/2021|
There's nothing else on the news networks. This is the most important event in human history.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/01/2021|
When a country's police force are allowed to murder it's citizens we should All be fucking enraged and terrified. I wanted to march with BLM, but that was their moment, so I stood on the side of the road and cheered them on, as did many, many people in my backwater southern town. These are our neighbors, nurses, friends, coworkers,ect, getting killed because of racist psychopaths. No fucking more.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/01/2021|
It makes me sad that a big chunk of the gay community maintains deplorable views--as an oppressed community, I expect more empathy toward other minorities. I'm glad to hear your voices though, R22, R20, R19, R17.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/01/2021|
As soon as that paramedic took a seat I knew he’d be making mamma’s mussy moist.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/01/2021|
I don't understand it at all either, R34. Not at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/01/2021|
R25 is a time traveler.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/01/2021|
[quote]I admit I haven't followed this case all that closely, but I don't understand what Floyd having a drug problem has to do with his death. Even if the drugs in his system increased the likelihood of death, surely the only thing that matters legally is that if Chauvin hadn't knelt on his neck, he would still be alive?
Defense is hoping that this will be enough of a "reasonable doubt" for one of the stupider jurors.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/01/2021|
How many here have a friend or family member who has struggled with addiction? I am raising my hand because I have several who have. Some survived addiction to become hard working, contributing members of society. Two sadly died of addiction. Did I love them less? Hell no. Did they deserve to be brutally murdered on the street by the very people paid to protect us? I do not think that defense will do anything other cause disgust for the defense lawyer .
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/01/2021|
I was thinking dirty thoughts about the paramedic, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/01/2021|
So what if he used drugs? So what if he used a counterfeit dollar bill? Neither of those are crimes punishable by the death penalty so they shouldn't have been treated like they were. And even if they were, he is entitled to a trial. He gets murdered in the streets while Derek Chauvin gets to have his day in court.
They're going to try to blame his drug addictions and COVID for his death. I hope the jurors won't buy into it. Maybe they did contribute to it. But there would be no death TO contribute to if that bastard's knee wasn't on his neck. All that means is that there are other factors that made him easier to murder. It doesn't cancel out the act of murder. I don't see how the verdict can be anything other than guilty. I hope and pray they'll make the right decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/01/2021|
Let's be real here. If it was a fucking Karen that got pulled over, out of her mind due to an addiction to oxys, and several cops suffocated her to death like that, her family would be billionaires from it.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/01/2021|
Regardless of drugs, previous arrests, covid and passing a bad bill he was entitled to a trial.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/01/2021|
If one group of people have no rights, none of us truly do. I wish people understood this.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/01/2021|
Enjoy this rather horrifying story, r31
She asked repeatedly to go to the hospital and was denied. She ended up vomiting in her cell several times. Instead of getting her medical care, they brought her a mop; she is shown on security camera struggling to clean it up. A deputy reportedly told her, "“Unfortunately, since you’re DT’ing I’m not going to take you over to the hospital right now just to get your fix.”
The family settled for $2 million.
Being a "Karen" isn't enough to save everyone
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/01/2021|
The police are overrun with bullies and narcissistic incompetence. Those are unions that should be broken up.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/01/2021|
'I'm waiting for a George Floyd Remembrance Day, national holiday to celebrate the life of a drug dealer, convict. All those weeping people on the witness stand are obviously crying because they won't see a cent of that twenty seven million dollars.'
FUCK OFF KLAN GRANNY!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/01/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/01/2021|
Yes, die. With a damn knee on your neck.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/01/2021|
Anybody who defends this thug cop—-may you have a run in with a cop like him who has disdain for you. You’re all begging karma to pay you a visit. And she will.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/01/2021|
Chauvin's former supervisor was sued by a prostitute he busted undercover in 2009. Apparently, he went undercover to a massage parlor to entrap these women into blowing him. He set up the transaction and allowed the woman to go down on him (or jerk him off, forget which one). Then arrested her for prostitution.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/01/2021|
If they find him not guilty the city should burn, and not just the center, they should take it to the suburbs and the "nice" areas, people need to be scared. The other cities will follow suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/01/2021|
And r41 how will that help anything? Societal collapse does nothing positive. And if the cities and suburbs burn, who is going to pay for all the benefits?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/01/2021|
I can understand why the bystanders didn't want to get involved, but what about the 3 other cops? They should have demanded Chauvin should back off of Floyd. Why didn't they do anything???
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/01/2021|
[quote]I can understand why the bystanders didn't want to get involved, but what about the 3 other cops?
And break their vow of omertà? It was clear that even the dispatcher knew she was doing something that just isn't done when she started her call to the supervisor with, "you can call me a snitch if you want to..."
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/01/2021|
More on the ginger
|by Anonymous||reply 45||04/02/2021|
Who is testifying now?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/02/2021|
The top cop just testified. He pretty much agreed Chauvin killed Floyd by not following protocol. There is no defence.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/02/2021|
Homicide Lt Zimmerman was last up and he had sent a letter of complaint regarding Chauvin's behavior in the George Floyd incident.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/02/2021|
I can't stand this douche defense attorney but he's probably the only one they could find to do this dirty work.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/02/2021|
I guess the defense is now trying to prove Zimmerman doesn’t have experience dealing with using force. But the guy is an investigator. He examines after the fact. It’s his job to actually investigate use of force. God I hate the defense attorneys. I know Chauvin is entitled to a defense but this is infuriating.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/02/2021|
Eric Nelson is certainly trying to stretch Zimmerman's words a bit too much. Surprised no objections.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/02/2021|
He just asked if an officer is in the fight of his life is it correct that he is allowed to use any means necessary to protect himself. Chauvin wasn't in the fight of his life!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/02/2021|
I know r52. The district attorney should point this out on redirect.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/02/2021|
But the handcuffs could have been too big!
But the handcuffs could have popped off!
But the handcuffs could have been surreptitiously swapped with easily broken ones made of papier-mâché!
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/02/2021|
Don’t feel bad R50. My brother is a criminal defense attorney and is the biggest douche.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/02/2021|
Redirect was excellent.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/02/2021|
Chauvin is going down as he should.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/02/2021|
His defense attorney is awful. His appearance doesn’t help. He needs a haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/02/2021|
Watching MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell was inaccurate. She said that if even one juror voted for a acquittal, Chauvin would be acquitted. Of course, that’s not true. That would result in a hung jury and he can be retried. Btw that testimony from Zimmerman was pretty damning for Chauvin.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||04/02/2021|
To be fair, r58, to me, this is as open and shut as a case can get. I mean, multiple witnesses, multiple videos, etc. if this were an ordinary murder trial of an ordinary citizen rather than a policeman, it would be over. So the defense attorney doesn’t have much to work with. But he still sucks!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||04/02/2021|
Hopefully Chauvin's hole will open and never shut in the pen before he gets fried.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||04/02/2021|
[quote]before he gets fried.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||04/02/2021|
Psst r62 they don't really fry. Dum dum ain't never heard of figure of speech. Chauvin is gonna get what he deserves. Stay on topic, hun.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||04/02/2021|
I get why Chauvin is incessantly taking notes--he's uncomfortable and unable to emote normally. But it really doesn't make him look good either...is he writing his memoirs? WTF?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||04/02/2021|
Which paramedic on the scene was hotter?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||04/02/2021|
[quote]Watching MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell was inaccurate. She said that if even one juror voted for a acquittal, Chauvin would be acquitted. Of course, that’s not true
Andrea Mitchell is an ancient old dinosaur who should be forcibly retired. MSNBC would save a lot of $$$ from no longer having to use the Lucy "Mame" lenses.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||04/02/2021|
The Blacks are already making a list of stores where they will be doing their early Christmas shopping.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||04/02/2021|
That's not nice r67.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||04/02/2021|
R68, I have r67 blocked, so I don’t know what it said, but I’m sure it was shit, just like its brains.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||04/02/2021|
I have r67 blocked too. She's trotted out the same tired line several times now.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/02/2021|
I don't have cable so I've been watching Court TV. They've decided to take George Floyd's side to get the ratings. Usually they have a snide, anti-thug undercurrent- thanks to their baboon-faced host Vinnie (who is noticeably absent because he wants no part of this George Floyd lovefest).
|by Anonymous||reply 71||04/02/2021|
You could tell that prosecution lady was getting moist from that ginger paramedic. Her voice was kinda wobbly. I don't blame her: how often do you find a masculine, deep-voiced redhead?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/02/2021|
You can tell it's going bad for the defense because the racist trolls are just desperately repeating the same lies and hateful rhetotic.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||04/02/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 74||04/02/2021|
"but I don't understand what Floyd having a drug problem has to do with his death."
Because he has was thrashing and twisting and caterwauling like a rodeo animal getting hogtied. And he'd be alive if he had just complied.
They want to say Chauvin had no choice but to knee him down.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/02/2021|
[quote]And he'd be alive if he had just complied.
Thank you for confirming he didn't die from a drug overdose. He was murdered.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/02/2021|
Police should be able to use THEIR training to not murder someone. Chauvin wanted to kill him. Once he was unconscious, Chauvin had NUMEROUS options he did not utilize by choice because HE was emotional.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||04/02/2021|
[quote]Because he has was thrashing and twisting and caterwauling like a rodeo animal getting hogtied. And he'd be alive if he had just complied.
So are you claiming that an out of his mind thrashing twisting etc. druggie is somehow on the same level of comprehension as a sober normal person?
Choose a lane.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||04/02/2021|
People are high on drugs almost everywhere on the planet every day, resisting arrest, attacking police officers...but somehow only American police officers lack the proper training to handle them and not kill them in the process. The argument that Floyd would be still alive if he had just complied is ridiculous. American police officers should be able to arrest suspects without causing them harm.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||04/02/2021|
American police are infiltrated with white nationalists, racists, and ultra conservatives of all colors and genders. The do-gooders fled or retired from the toxic police culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||04/02/2021|
"attacking police officers"
Just want to be clear--Floyd didn't attack the police officers. Just like he didn't attack or threaten or pose any risk to the clerk who confronted him about the $20 bill. It's a product of our racist police state culture that we let them get away with claiming someone having an episode (whether drug or mental health induced) is a threat or attack on them.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||04/02/2021|
R81 Wall Street can loot billions from people yet I don’t see them being murdered by cops. The last president murdered 500,000 citizens yet golfs around getting even more obese by the second. Also, not murdered by police.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||04/02/2021|
r82 I meant to WW you and accidently hit FF. Apologies!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||04/02/2021|
R83 no worries!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||04/02/2021|
"attacking police officers"
I was talking about people in general, not George Floyd. Watch what happens after a football game all over Europe. Football fans are having fights with police or the rivaling team almost every Saturday. They attack police officers, spit on them, throw rocks and bottles, but no one gets killed. If American police officers handled European football fans, we would probably have hundreds of dead citizens every weekend bc they felt threatened and attacked.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||04/02/2021|
R85 Not true unless those Europeans were non-white. American cops would never and have never murdered violent white people the way they do violent black people. Then when you add in non-violent black people being murdered by cops, sheesh, it is obvious what is going on.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||04/02/2021|
I realize that R85, but I just wanted to be clear for the casual reader who is not following the trial. People make all kinds of assumptions when they hear someone was "resisting arrest" but what Floyd was doing was more akin to a panic attack than threatening the police.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||04/02/2021|
If American blacks lived in the UK and Europe the cops would be shooting them, believe me. Don't act like you're all so enlightened.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||04/02/2021|
[quote] And he'd be alive if he had just complied
And the obvious mindset of Chauvin was that he wasn't going to let this lowlife POS druggie move another motherfucking inch any which way, and then in essence proceed to snuff the life out of Floyd. He knew what he was doing and he did not care. It was an act so egregious, that nothing less than the charge of murder would be appropriate. He should be found guilty.
The arguments constantly being posited here is that Floyd was a recidivist, an addict, and a lost cause and he ultimately caused his own death. He did not deserve to die for his actions.
Over the last couple of decades American LEOs have adopted a military mindset and a warrior mentality where people not of their ilk is the enemy.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/02/2021|
Ultimately, the question is: would George Floyd have died of all other things were the same in that encounter EXCEPT for the knee in the neck. The defense is saying that GF swallowed fentanyl and amphetamines immediately proceeding the police interaction, and then it was only a matter of time before the stress of the police detention, his poor heart, and the drugs combined to cause cardio pulmonary arrest.
That's hard to believe. It makes MUCH more sense that Chauvin killed him by compressing his neck for nine minutes. Unlike many here, I will listen to the defense and see if I buy it or not, but I doubt I will. BTW the fact that Floyd was a prior drug user HELPS the prosecution, so that's really not the point you racists think it is. Either the drugs killed him or Chauvin did, and his prior use means the drugs very likely did not kill him, so who does that leave?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||04/02/2021|
(R69-70) The truth at times does hurt.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||04/02/2021|
Yes I'm sure it hurts for R67 to hear he has shit for brains, but it's the truth.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||04/02/2021|
If he ingested fentanyl right before the altercation this could be what truly killed him, the drug in known to stop your heart.
Now this is not to excuse the cops behavior in any way but I am thinking would the result have been the same with a sober individual, was the pressure enough to kill.
I think that is where the prosecution needs to focus.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||04/02/2021|
[quote]Now this is not to excuse the cops behavior in any way but I am thinking would the result have been the same with a sober individual, was the pressure enough to kill.
Would the result have been the same with a 90-year-old woman, would the pressure be enough to kill?
You don't get to play what if...the facts are what they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||04/02/2021|
R93 Your attempt at justifying a murder are noted.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||04/02/2021|
R93 is a notorious Klan Granny.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||04/02/2021|
[quote] It makes me sad that a big chunk of the gay community maintains deplorable views--as an oppressed community, I expect more empathy toward other minorities. I'm glad to hear your voices though
If other "oppressed communities" had out backs like we have theirs, I might be able to get on board with this statement. It's the not case. So fuck them,
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/02/2021|
[quote]If other "oppressed communities" had out backs like we have theirs
R97 doesn't know any gay black, latin or asian people.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||04/02/2021|
Will they put Chauvin on the stand as well?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||04/02/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 100||04/03/2021|
Nah, if you were a defense attorney, you WOULD NOT want a sociopathic client testifying. He'd be DESTROYED on the stand.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||04/03/2021|
The ginger paramedic can cross-examine my hole anytime!
|by Anonymous||reply 102||04/03/2021|
The prosecution can't demand to question Chauvin?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||04/03/2021|
DL never fails to disappoint (r102 I mean you)!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/03/2021|
I take it you're not American, R103. No, they can't. Criminal defendants have the right to stay silent pet the 5th Amendment to our Constitution.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||04/03/2021|
I've adored Lt. Zimmerman for over a decade. He was one of the Minneapolis murder detectives on A&E series The First 48. He always came across as such a kind, decent person. When I walked into my living room yesterday and saw him on my TV, I immediately sat down and watched his testimony. Was hoping he would be on the right side of all this, and was glad to see he is.
But he pronounces his name as Zimmer·MAN. Everyone from the attorneys to the TV talking heads kept calling him ZIMMERman. It rankled a bit (I'm OCD, lol).
|by Anonymous||reply 106||04/03/2021|
I wonder just how long Chauvin was prepared to continue kneeling on Floyd's neck if the paramedics had been even more delayed in arriving than they were.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||04/03/2021|
Someone finally rehabilitated the Zimmerman name.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||04/03/2021|
Ethel Merman's real name was Ethel Zimmerman.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||04/03/2021|
R109 might be the Dataloungiest post ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||04/03/2021|
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|by Anonymous||reply 111||04/03/2021|
R109 only on the DL...
|by Anonymous||reply 112||04/03/2021|
I hope r111 is Miss Cleo
|by Anonymous||reply 113||04/03/2021|
Bob Dylan's real last name is also Zimmerman. And, he's from Minnesota.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||04/03/2021|
Bob Dylan is one of the Jewish Zimmermans. Ethel Merman, while constantly mistaken for Jewish, was in fact one of the German (Christian) Zimmermans and had no Jewish ancestry.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||04/03/2021|
What's on the agenda for tomorrow?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||04/04/2021|
When Minneapolis burns to the ground when the inevitable acquittal (or hung jury) happens, Minnesota will be 5 degrees warmer.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||04/04/2021|
R117 Like our Capitol when republicans don’t get their way with the next election?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||04/04/2021|
(117) I sure the Floyd family will find someplace to spend that twenty seven million...forgot their lawyer will receive a nice slice of that monetary pie.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||04/04/2021|
What a lovely way for racists to spend Easter Sunday.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||04/04/2021|
[quote] No, they can't. Criminal defendants have the right to stay silent pet the 5th Amendment to our Constitution.
And I’ll add that the jury (in theory anyway) is instructed to make no inferences whatever about a defendant not testifying.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||04/04/2021|
R65, the taller one with short hair.
We was gorgeous. The other guy came off as very snotty and arrogant. Certainly not approachable.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||04/04/2021|
I want the ginger paramedic in me quite deeply.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||Last Monday at 2:34 AM|
Do we now have a ginger paramedic troll??
|by Anonymous||reply 124||Last Monday at 2:35 AM|
Whoa! Hot doc alert!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||Last Monday at 6:54 AM|
Lol r125. You took the words out of my mouth
|by Anonymous||reply 126||Last Monday at 6:57 AM|
The prosecutor showed us his purse.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||Last Monday at 7:16 AM|
R127 Hahahah that was my first thought! The prosecutor may be a DLer!
R126 I love his boyish hairstyle.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||Last Monday at 7:25 AM|
This doc should speak in layman's terms for the jury.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||Last Monday at 7:33 AM|
So far we have the hot paramedics and the hot doc, AND the prosecutor is a DLer!!
|by Anonymous||reply 130||Last Monday at 8:05 AM|
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hot doc's testimony seems damning for the defense, no?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||Last Monday at 8:09 AM|
Here's the lawyer in his younger years.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||Last Monday at 8:12 AM|
R130, how do we know he's a DL'er?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||Last Monday at 8:32 AM|
R132, clearly is is before his soul vacated his body.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||Last Monday at 8:35 AM|
He brought up Judy Garland, R133.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||Last Monday at 8:37 AM|
Is our police chief gay? He's pinging.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||Last Monday at 8:41 AM|
There's a huge toxic spill in Tampa but I guess that's not as newsworthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||Last Monday at 8:42 AM|
Did the prosecutor not comb his hair this morning?
|by Anonymous||reply 138||Last Monday at 8:44 AM|
There's already a thread for that, R137.
Do keep up.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||Last Monday at 8:49 AM|
The chief's testimony so far is boring. Get to the point already!!
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Monday at 8:52 AM|
Checking in from minneapolis. Y'all are cracking me up. Yeah the chief testimony sure is slow. Prosecutor has bed head.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Monday at 9:04 AM|
There's so many hot men in Minneapolis, R141. These lawyers are all so schlubby!! What's going on?!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Monday at 9:12 AM|
R137 trolls around Derek Chauvin threads complaining about other newsworthy stories.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Monday at 9:13 AM|
The chief is def a DLer.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Monday at 9:14 AM|
None of them have that hard-core Minnesota accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||Last Monday at 9:29 AM|
R145, in my experience, the only people that exhibit that Fargo accent are women 50+.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||Last Monday at 9:32 AM|
It will get more interesting when the chief talks about the crime scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||Last Monday at 9:58 AM|
I wonder why that is, R146? Poor education, lower class upbringing?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||Last Monday at 9:59 AM|
The prosecution is trying to have the only official autopsy removed from the record?
That’s a winning strategy 🙄
|by Anonymous||reply 149||Last Monday at 10:03 AM|
R148, My company headquarters was located in Bloomington so I had a lot of exposure to people in the area. My guess is it has to do with where younger vs. older people live. Older in the rural areas further away, younger closer to the twin cities.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||Last Monday at 10:05 AM|
In other news, a massive earthquake has destroyed all of California. Now, back to the Chauvin trial....
|by Anonymous||reply 151||Last Monday at 11:15 AM|
Here we go again with the defense atty trying to somehow discredit the witness. He has nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||Last Monday at 11:25 AM|
Defense Attorney "It's been a long week". It's only Monday, asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||Last Monday at 11:48 AM|
Lol r153 I missed that
|by Anonymous||reply 154||Last Monday at 12:24 PM|
Ugh I hate this defense atty
|by Anonymous||reply 155||Last Monday at 12:31 PM|
I really love the police chief's confidence. He never seems to be rattled by the defense's questions and seems to thoroughly understand each question before answering.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||Last Monday at 12:35 PM|
Cop Chauvin tortured George Floyd to death. Guilty. Case closed. Have fun in prison where you'll get yours. That's the way it should go.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||Last Monday at 12:53 PM|
Chauvin is writing 10,000 times: “I will not put my knee on someone’s neck for 8 minutes”
|by Anonymous||reply 158||Last Monday at 1:07 PM|
[quote] There's a huge toxic spill in Tampa but I guess that's not as newsworthy.
It wasn't newsworthy enough to you to even know where it's happening. It's not happening in Tampa. It's happening in Bradenton. And you would know that, if you weren't so fucking lazy and actually read an article about it
Is reading one article too much for you? It certainly is
Shoo. Bad dog
|by Anonymous||reply 159||Last Monday at 1:26 PM|
The chief should play poker, there is no rattling that man. I found his testimony to be very problematic for the defense, he made it clear that this was excessive use of force.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||Last Monday at 2:43 PM|
Where did all the racists go? The Chief’s testimony was damning for murdering Chauvin.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||Last Monday at 3:05 PM|
Chauvin's scribbled notes revealed:
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|by Anonymous||reply 162||Last Monday at 3:15 PM|
I wish we could hear from Derek. He's the missing piece of the puzzle. What was he thinking? Was he thinking at all? Is he a dummy? Did they have prior animosity from when they worked together?
Until we hear his side of the story people will continue to demonize him- and canonize Floyd.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||Last Monday at 3:53 PM|
The other trial had much more style
|by Anonymous||reply 164||Last Monday at 4:05 PM|
r159 Brandenton is right outside of Tampa. Everybody just calls the Tampa area "Tampa." Having this trial on all day is taking away from important stories. A toxic wastewater spill that is going into the Gulf is pretty damn newsworthy. There is no need to have this trial on all fucking day at the expense of other news. I have no idea why anyone can justify this.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||Last Monday at 4:06 PM|
r159 needs to be held down and choked for exactly nine minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||Last Monday at 4:06 PM|
R163 They quite obviously had some sort of run in at the club and maybe Floyd had tried to intimidate him at the time. Something happened to anger Chauvin, because he murdered Floyd, while enjoying all nine minutes of it, in full view of many cameras. He knew he was being filmed and practically showed off for the crowd. This is a murder, plain and simple. Once Chauvin saw opportunity, it was very much premeditated and carried out.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||Last Monday at 4:07 PM|
R163 yes, it's just so terrible when we demonize white people for their terrible terrible actions instead of sticking to demonizing black people just for existing.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||Last Monday at 4:35 PM|
R165, if you feel that way, for the life of me, I can’t figure out why you’re on this thread. Also, whining about this does no good. Go take a long nap.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||Last Monday at 4:40 PM|
R165 because this trial verdict can potentially result in race riots across THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!!
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Last Monday at 4:53 PM|
Has there been any testimony about why Chauvin did this? I don't think he did it because he wanted to murder a black man. I think he wanted to murder Floyd, specifically. For some bad blood real or perceived by Chauvin.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||Last Monday at 5:30 PM|
Chauvin got emotional. He let his emotions get in the way.
I’ve have a gay friendly police officer friend. The things he told me police wanted to do to the LGBTQ community would make you hurl. They would love to do terrible things to us. Hope you never meet a Chauvin.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||Last Monday at 7:07 PM|
[quote]Chauvin got emotional. He let his emotions get in the way.
I'd say he let his fragile ego get in the way
|by Anonymous||reply 173||Last Tuesday at 1:11 AM|
[quote]If American blacks lived in the UK and Europe the cops would be shooting them, believe me. Don't act like you're all so enlightened.
No they wouldn't, you racist pig!
|by Anonymous||reply 174||Last Tuesday at 2:24 AM|
Wow, I didn't know there were so many hot men in Minneapolis. No wonder Mary Richards and Rhoda Morgenstern moved there.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||Last Tuesday at 3:15 AM|
This testimony is really interesting
|by Anonymous||reply 176||Last Tuesday at 6:45 AM|
The defense is definitely grasping at straws.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||Last Tuesday at 7:25 AM|
I came to see what we think of bear Johnny Mercil.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||Last Tuesday at 7:33 AM|
No one watching today?
|by Anonymous||reply 179||Last Tuesday at 9:02 AM|
R178 - He is quite the specimen! He is the MPD force trainer and he can turn me any way but loose - for hours!
|by Anonymous||reply 180||Last Tuesday at 9:05 AM|
R178, I'm getting DL'er on my radar. Yes sir!
|by Anonymous||reply 181||Last Tuesday at 9:07 AM|
I hate this attorney. He's blaming the on-lookers for using excessive force.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||Last Tuesday at 9:20 AM|
It seems like a losing strategy r182
|by Anonymous||reply 183||Last Tuesday at 9:30 AM|
I found this lengthy rap sheet for Derek Chauvin...quite the history of abuse on him. Wish I could dig deeper into some of these charges.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||Last Tuesday at 9:31 AM|
"I totally would have gotten off his neck if everyone wasn't yelling at me to get off his neck. I had no choice but to stay on his neck to own the libs!"
|by Anonymous||reply 185||Last Tuesday at 9:34 AM|
I should've posted this link instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Last Tuesday at 9:34 AM|
R184 That's quite a few reprimands and the oral ones probably should have been written.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Last Tuesday at 9:43 AM|
It's the law in MN, but I think you might have to request these records the 'ol fashioned way by submitting written requests.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Tuesday at 9:48 AM|
[quote] I feel we have to confront them because we have a moral responsibly to not let them influence our young here on DL.
Indeed. The late 40s and early 50s are when 'young people' are most impressionable and easily influenced.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Tuesday at 9:56 AM|
The doctor is from my hometown. I'll have to keep an eye out for him when I visit.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Tuesday at 10:34 AM|
Does the prosecution tell their witnesses to say “correct” instead of “yes?” It sounds terrible. “Correct” should be used to confirm that a statement is accurate, not as a substitute for “yes.”
R187 I’d like to see what those complaints were, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Tuesday at 10:44 AM|
Here's that "Fargo" accent y'all have been waiting for in the form of Officer Nicole Mackenzie.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Tuesday at 10:50 AM|
A juror fell asleep. They lawyers have basically asked the same questions of the three witnesses (so far) today and it's getting too repetitive. Too bad there weren't more bystanders, they were interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Tuesday at 11:08 AM|
R193 Or at least more hot witnesses.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Tuesday at 11:14 AM|
Medical chick testifying right now is very competent. Chauvin's lawyer still a smarmy asshole trying to blame others.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Tuesday at 11:26 AM|
I'm sick of him r195
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Tuesday at 11:27 AM|
Remember all the excellent George Floyd threads at the time, and how they were all deleted.?
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Tuesday at 11:28 AM|
The defense lawyer bear is a loser chasing his own ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Tuesday at 11:49 AM|
I missed the medical chick but the witness on now has purses falling out of his mouth!
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Tuesday at 11:51 AM|
[quote]No one watching today?
Everybody's kind of over it.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Tuesday at 12:37 PM|
I’m actually interested in what the defense is going to pull out of their ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Tuesday at 1:21 PM|
[quote] The doctor is from my hometown.
He’s young! He just got licensed last year almost immediately before this incident. I was pretty surprised. And he was just pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Tuesday at 1:40 PM|
I wonder when the defense witnesses start to testify?
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Tuesday at 4:39 PM|
If George Floyd were gay nobody would give a flying fuck about the outcome of his killer except a small niche of gay black people. I just can’t bring myself to give a goddamn right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Tuesday at 4:48 PM|
Compare the rather tepid number of replies so far.
When defense starts poking holes in the witnesses for the prosecution it will be be far different.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Tuesday at 11:14 PM|
R204 I wouldn’t say that. This got to people because the video evidence was horrific and it was posted almost immediately after it happened.
This event also occurred the same weekend of the birdwatcher incident - people were up in arms about this case too. However, interest frittered away because the birdwatcher (who is a gay black man) decided to give Karen a chance. Let’s be real, replace Christian Cooper with George Floyd and the Chauvin case is open and shut; It would be quite difficult to put his lifestyle and background on trial.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Wednesday at 12:01 AM|
These are all still witnesses for the prosecution, right? And we still haven't heard from any experts or scientists? The members of the jury must be bored out of their minds already. It doesn't help that every witness questioning starts with endless questions about their education and training. When they finally start with the good stuff, I already lost all interest. Maybe the strategy to start with the eyewitnesses wasn't a good idea. Members of the jury probably can't remember much of their testimony and all the raw emotion after weeks of dull expert witnesses, doctors and police officers.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Wednesday at 12:15 AM|
R204 is a blocked troll
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Wednesday at 2:57 AM|
Thank you, r208. I’ve blocked him too, and I only block excrement.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Wednesday at 4:54 AM|
R205, do you mean the opposite? From what I’ve seen so far, the defense has had little success in poking any holes in the prosecution case.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Wednesday at 4:55 AM|
The bearded Johnny Mercil is so sexy! Can't believe there are so few comments about him here.
He looks like some movie or TV star but I can't quite place who I mean.....
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Wednesday at 5:22 AM|
we're back, folks
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Wednesday at 7:00 AM|
Is this an expert witness?
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Wednesday at 7:05 AM|
Why is the prosecution's expert a random LA police officer?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Wednesday at 7:11 AM|
The defense attorney has a very punchable face
|by Anonymous||reply 215||Last Wednesday at 7:20 AM|
R211 I was surprised, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||Last Wednesday at 7:21 AM|
Use of Force expert. Maybe he's top in the field.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||Last Wednesday at 7:28 AM|
Defense reminds me of a log cabin republican I knew. He used to troll bathhouses when he wasn't peddling T***p nonsense
|by Anonymous||reply 218||Last Wednesday at 7:35 AM|
^We all saw the video, but you still need an use of force expert to state the obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||Last Wednesday at 7:37 AM|
One thing to remember is that while you may not like the defense attorney in his role in this case, defending a white cop is probably a rarity for him in terms of his usual cases.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||Last Wednesday at 7:39 AM|
R220 "Likeability" is not the issue. He is incompetent. I wouldn't trust him to take care of a parking ticket.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||Last Wednesday at 7:42 AM|
I know, r220. My dislike of him is largely conformation bias
|by Anonymous||reply 222||Last Wednesday at 7:44 AM|
Well, I guess we have to see his witnesses and then his summation.
I’m also the person who has a brother who is a defensive attorney who is the biggest asshole ever, so I get it lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||Last Wednesday at 7:47 AM|
Remember also, the defense attorney is stuck with the case and client he has, not necessarily what he wants. The only hope Chauvin has is that enough jurors are racist and/or deferential enough to law enforcement that they will just completely ignore those 4+ minutes after Floyd lost consciousness.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||Last Wednesday at 8:03 AM|
The defense only needs to convince one juror of the slightest bit of reasonable doubt. I still say he will be found not guilty of all charges
|by Anonymous||reply 225||Last Wednesday at 8:09 AM|
The defense here is a thankless task but some poor boob has to do it. Like Trump's bozos at the recent impeachment. Trump had a rigged jury going for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||Last Wednesday at 8:10 AM|
R226 A "rigged jury"? Get some help and get Trump out of this thread. Thanks.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||Last Wednesday at 8:14 AM|
R235 I disagree, no way will he be found not guilty, but we will see!
|by Anonymous||reply 228||Last Wednesday at 8:18 AM|
R225 I think MN requires unanimous vote for a verdict, so one holdout is only going to result in a hung jury. That might be the defense's best bet though--hung jury and then hope for a better plea offer to avoid another trial. Sadly it's a pretty good bet to rely on at least one juror being racist enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||Last Wednesday at 8:28 AM|
It's gonna be a hung jury.
All the defense needs is one Tucker Carlson fan!
|by Anonymous||reply 230||Last Wednesday at 8:40 AM|
[quote] I’m also the person who has a brother who is a defensive attorney who is the biggest asshole ever,
Well if you kept calling me an asshole, I’d be defensive too.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||Last Wednesday at 9:24 AM|
[quote] I think MN requires unanimous vote for a verdict,
Do you live in the United States?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||Last Wednesday at 9:25 AM|
^ Yes, typing fast on a phone. Just "oh dear" me and move on.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||Last Wednesday at 9:38 AM|
Typing fast on a phone made you “think” you need a unanimous verdict? But you weren’t sure?
|by Anonymous||reply 234||Last Wednesday at 9:50 AM|
You need a unanimous jury to convict. Most states also require unanimity to acquit, but there are one or two holdout states that still allow split juries to acquit. If you live in the US, you should know that.
So I said "I think" because I didn't double check to be absolutely sure MN wasn't one of those outliers. Odd though that you're fixating on me for correcting R225 mistaken belief that the defense only has to "convince one juror" to get a not guilty verdict.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||Last Wednesday at 10:24 AM|
I’m fixated on it because anyone who resides in the United States would know you need a unanimous jury to convict OR acquit. In a criminal (not a civil) case, a unanimous jury is required. It’s in the Constitution and has been reaffirmed by the Supreme Court as recently as last year in Ramos v. Louisiana.
It’s been a staple of our system since the beginning. If a jury is not unanimous neither a conviction nor acquittal occurs, the jury is “hung” and a mistrial is declared. The State can then decide whether they want to retry the case before a different jury.
Again, I’m not harping on you personally, I just found it odd that you didn’t know that.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||Last Wednesday at 10:34 AM|
This current witness looks very angry and annoyed. I wouldn't want to piss him off. His voice doesn't match his demeanor.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||Last Wednesday at 10:43 AM|
R236, You can take your obnoxious pedantry and shove it. OR does not require unanimous juries to acquit. As I said, that's an outlier compared to most of the country. And I also already explained that this trial will end up with a hung jury if there's no unanimity. You're fixated on me saying "I think," which I did because I didn't have the time to double check that MN wasn't also an outlier first. Meanwhile you're unbothered by the total wrongness of posters such as R225.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||Last Wednesday at 10:44 AM|
R225 is correct, though. That’s all they need is to convince one juror of reasonable doubt and they’ll get at a minimum a hung jury.
You just don’t want to admit your error and are trying to deflect. Admit you made a mistake, but doubling down and saying there are states that don’t require unanimous verdicts just makes it worse. All of the states are under the same Constitution.
There is no state in the United States that does not require a unanimous jury verdict for conviction or acquittal.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||Last Wednesday at 10:52 AM|
R225 didn't say convincing one juror would result in a hung jury, he said not guilty. I made the correction that no, a lone juror would lead to a hung jury, not a not-guilty verdict. And since you don't read very thoroughly, I take it you didn't look at the link at R238. Why you insist on trying to be a pedantic jackass when you're just wrong is a mystery.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||Last Wednesday at 10:57 AM|
I'd like to knee you bickering bitches to death right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||Last Wednesday at 10:58 AM|
^^^Which is why most judges will ask a jury to keep deliberating if they say they are split. Usually they talk it out and come to agreement. I feel this jury has already made up their minds and are now just waiting for it to end so they can deliver a guilty verdict. Hence, the falling asleep.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Wednesday at 10:59 AM|
R241 You should apply to be a Minneapolis police officer!
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Wednesday at 11:00 AM|
Way too much redundancy in the prosecution's approach. Jury starts tuning-out. The cable networks covering the trial could do periodic summaries. Covering every second of this is unnecessary.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Wednesday at 11:11 AM|
Hahaha R231 I think he takes it as a compliment.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||Last Wednesday at 11:22 AM|
Linky stinky at r238.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Wednesday at 11:24 AM|
If there's nothing else worthwhile on the tv to watch, just turn the set off.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||Last Wednesday at 11:41 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 248||Last Wednesday at 11:48 AM|
Morticia Adams is testifying.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||Last Wednesday at 11:54 AM|
Is it the lighting? She looks like she has a mustache.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||Last Wednesday at 12:01 PM|
Sorry R246, I can't figure out why it's not working. Here's another with the same content:
|by Anonymous||reply 251||Last Wednesday at 12:30 PM|
[quote]Is it the lighting? She looks like she has a mustache.
I love this hellsite so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||Last Wednesday at 12:31 PM|
[quote] It doesn't help that every witness questioning starts with endless questions about their education and training.
That’s why courtroom dramas on TV are so different. Unfortunately, the prosecution must lay a foundation for why the person is testifying, both for legal purposes and to avoid the jury saying “why are we listening to this guy? What does he know about this? Who is he to offer an opinion?”
|by Anonymous||reply 253||Last Wednesday at 1:34 PM|
The female prosecutor looks like the love child of Aimee Mann and best selling “White Fragility” author, Robin Di Angelo.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||Last Wednesday at 1:39 PM|
[quote]We all saw the video
R219 = Dr. Rick
|by Anonymous||reply 255||Last Wednesday at 1:48 PM|
[quote] I still say he will be found not guilty of all charges
US cities will turn into the fucking Thunderdome if this happens.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM|
WHY is this trial on tv all fucking day? It can be part of regular news briefings. JFC.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM|
It sounds to me as though he's saying "I ain't doin' any drugs", not "I ate too many drugs"
|by Anonymous||reply 258||Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM|
All media is happy to over cover this trial and will be financial winners if Chauvin gets off and mayhem results. Cynical and grim as that reality is.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||Last Wednesday at 3:30 PM|
R256 Is that all you can say? Yes WE HEARD it will be MAYHEM, APOCALYPTIC, OMGGGGGG!
Now STUF division troll
|by Anonymous||reply 260||Last Wednesday at 3:46 PM|
Nobody elected your ass judge and jury r260
|by Anonymous||reply 261||Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM|
"I heard pancake, not murder."
|by Anonymous||reply 262||Last Wednesday at 6:21 PM|
He'll be found guilty, of a lesser charge and he won't get a long sentence
And he also fraudulently voted. He and his ex-stripper wife both committed voter fraud as well as tax fraud
Very good people indeed
|by Anonymous||reply 263||Last Wednesday at 6:58 PM|
You won't like it but Ann Coulter gave the best recap of the trial so far.
Week One was chock-a-block with weeping bystanders wailing about how they felt watching Chauvin restrain Floyd. This would be tremendous evidence if the charge against Officer Chauvin were “first-degree upsetting bystanders.” But that’s not the charge. That’s not even a crime.
One especially distraught witness, Charles McMillian, an elderly black man, testified to seeing “foam” coming out of Floyd’s mouth.
QUIZ: Is foam coming out of the mouth a sign of:
a) a head wound?
c) a drug overdose?
ANSWER: c) a drug overdose.
Apart from that crucial fact, McMillian’s evidence only pertained to “first-degree upsetting bystanders.” Which, again, is not a crime.
My favorite witness — and the media’s favorite, too! — was Genevieve Hansen, Feminist Hero. She appeared in court in her firefighter dress uniform and a belligerent mood — though not as belligerent as the day Floyd died, when she showed up in sweats and began shrieking at the officers.
The headlines are along the lines of “Firefighter: I Could Have Saved Floyd’s Life, But Police Wouldn’t Let Me.”
Genevieve was totally on top of the situation. In her statement to investigators shortly after the event, she described Floyd as a “small, slim man.” Floyd was at least 6-foot-4 and weighed 230 pounds. The largest police officer on the scene was Chauvin, coming in at 5-foot-9 and 140 pounds. Genevieve missed nothing!
Even in the calm setting of a courtroom, with no agitated bystanders yelling at her, here are the things Genevieve says she would have done to save Floyd’s life!
“I would have requested additional help.” “I would have wanted someone to call 911.” “I would have asked someone to run to the gas station and look for an AED [a defibrillator].”
Why didn’t the officers think to call for medical backup??? Oh yeah, they already had. Twice. Starting about 10 minutes before Genevieve even showed up.
“I would have checked his airway.” “I would have been worried about a spinal cord injury.”
As we know from the autopsy, there was no problem with Floyd’s airway or spinal cord. (But, as long as you bring it up, his body did contain three times the lethal dose of fentanyl.)
“I would have checked for a pulse.”
Eureka! Why didn’t — oh wait, the officers had done this, repeatedly, as several bystander witnesses had already confirmed.
By now, Floyd was dead. That’s when she would have started chest compressions.
So Genevieve, the state’s star witness on what the cops did wrong, testified that she would have done pretty much everything the officers did. But she would have been a lot bossier about it.
On Tuesday, Lt. Johnny Mercil, the MDP’s use-of-force trainer, and Officer Nicole Mackenzie, the MPD’s medical support coordinator, testified that it would be appropriate not to provide care to a suspect who had just been fighting with officers, or in the presence of a hostile crowd.
Chauvin had both those circumstances.
Trying to do damage control, the prosecutor asked Officer Mackenzie to define a “hostile” crowd. She said, “a growing contingent of people around, if they’re yelling, being even verbally abusive to those trying to provide scene security.”
Hey — remember those weeping bystanders last week? Their own testimony confirmed that they were “yelling and even being verbally abusive to those trying to provide scene security.”
Donald Williams, for example, the bouncer and MMA hobbyist, admitted to continuously berating the officers — all of which is on tape — calling Chauvin a “fucking bum,” “bitch” and “a fucking pussy ass bitch.” In one of the tapes, Williams threatens Officer Tou Thao, saying, “I swear I’ll slap the fuck out of both of you!”
And of course, there was the lovely Genevieve screeching, “I have your name tag, bitch!”
|by Anonymous||reply 264||Last Thursday at 2:32 AM|
[quote]You won't like it but Ann Coulter gave the best recap of the trial so far.
Well, you're right about one thing.
r264 can fuck right off along with Ann Coulter.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||Last Thursday at 2:48 AM|
R264 I would say you tried but.....ahahahahahaahahahahaa
Fuck off to Russia bitch. Ya boy Chauvin is going down, whore. Suck it.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||Last Thursday at 3:22 AM|
I find the whole thing fascinating. Watching Chauvin feverishly scribbling; does he share his notes with his lawyers afterwards? His eyes darting behind his mask. I think he's just a not-too-bright cop who didn't know how to place his leg ACROSS the neck and his knee on the shoulder blade. That's all.
It's all so sleazy and unfortunate.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||Last Thursday at 3:49 AM|
[Quote] In her statement to investigators shortly after the event, she described Floyd as a “small, slim man.” Floyd was at least 6-foot-4 and weighed 230 pounds.
She only arrived after Floyd was already handcuffed and on the floor with three grown ass men on top of him. She probably only saw his head since Chauvin had his knee on his neck and the other two officers covering the rest of his body. This is such a bullshit statement to discredit a witness. She was also probably still in shock right after the incident because like she said on the stand "watching someone being murdered is very upsetting".
Fuck off, r264!
|by Anonymous||reply 268||Last Thursday at 4:17 AM|
Leave it to Anne Coulter to take away everything from the situation that is the opposite of reality. She’s a contrarian, that’s her schtick, and now that she pissed off both sides of the aisle, she’s homeless. Yet vodka lover r264 wants to make her a thing here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
|by Anonymous||reply 269||Last Thursday at 4:43 AM|
I ate too many opiates.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||Last Thursday at 5:05 AM|
Do most people follow the trial? The network and cable news put it on heavy rotation but I don't see many clicks or traffic, barely stay on google top news, the most telling is it was not on Twitter trends, even on DL it's just a few die hard posters here and after 10 days it only got a follow up part 2 thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||Last Thursday at 5:10 AM|
Actually, Coulter’s take was spot on...and this is from someone who used to troll her website message board years ago. Not a fan of hers.
Had the female firefighter acted professionally and had her ID, it might’ve made a difference. Standing there in her sweats yelling “bitch,” she just came off as as trashy and unhinged. I would’ve ignored her, too.
When did “professional” people start dressing and talking this way? It’s so sad. No decorum or dignity.
I know this issue is not the point of this trial, I’m just making the observation. The world is watching and that motley crew of slobs represents us.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||Last Thursday at 5:33 AM|
I imagine r272 = r264 using a sock puppet.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||Last Thursday at 5:38 AM|
No, I am not R264. I haven’t read all of his posts, don’t know what his politics are, but I did read the Coulter article he just posted. Our culture is devolving. But, that is a subject for a different thread, I suppose.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||Last Thursday at 5:52 AM|
R272, that was one witness out of many. I happen to think she did great, because she expressed the senselessness and hopelessness of the situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||Last Thursday at 6:13 AM|
Maybe I missed something but why didn’t the defense cross examine Morticia?
Did they reserve it for a future recall or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 276||Last Thursday at 6:13 AM|
If I spend my time reading a long description of this trial by Ann Coulter, I need to do some serious self-reflection, and then get a life. Sorry, there is absolutely nothing useful achieved by paying attention to her on this.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||Last Thursday at 7:17 AM|
[quote]When did “professional” people start dressing and talking this way? It’s so sad. No decorum or dignity.
[quote]I know this issue is not the point of this trial, I’m just making the observation. The world is watching and that motley crew of slobs represents us.
True. Americans look and act like such slobs now.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||Last Thursday at 7:18 AM|
[quote] Sorry, there is absolutely nothing useful achieved by paying attention to her on anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||Last Thursday at 7:20 AM|
The only people worse than Ann Coulter are the people who bullhorn Ann Coulter. Of course an all out racist would give the trial evidence a thorough whitewashing.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||Last Thursday at 7:31 AM|
[quote] Had the female firefighter acted professionally and had her ID, it might’ve made a difference. Standing there in her sweats yelling “bitch,” she just came off as as trashy and unhinged. I would’ve ignored her, too.
Ann Coulter went shit-nuts in a Twitter tirade on a flight because she had to move her seat. She has no business judging the reaction of someone witnessing a murder, and neither does your racist ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||Last Thursday at 7:35 AM|
R268 and she explained herself right there on the witness stand, but of course fact-free Ann didn’t mention that.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||Last Thursday at 7:37 AM|
Wow, devastating testimony today from a pulmonologist. He basically described 9 mins of Chauvin slowly torturing Floyd to death.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||Last Thursday at 8:06 AM|
Definitely OT but working from home has contributed to the “slobbiness” of America. I used to be presentable for work (although we had a casual dress code), but not now.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||Last Thursday at 9:18 AM|
R281 That’s right, call anyone with a differing opinion “racist.” Anything to avoid a real discussion with actual arguments.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||Last Thursday at 10:02 AM|
R283 He was especially impressive by having the jury use their fingers on the front of their throats and the back of their necks to simulate the effect on George Floyd.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||Last Thursday at 10:16 AM|
R285 If you are defending Ann Coulter as representative of one wanting "real discussions" with "actual arguments", you've burned your intellectual bridge.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||Last Thursday at 10:28 AM|
R285 misrepresenting facts through a racist lens is not an argument. And if you platform a racist, you're presumed to be one too.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||Last Thursday at 10:37 AM|
"He basically described 9 mins of Chauvin slowly torturing Floyd to death."
Well, he suffocated. But not sure that Chauvin did that. He was a heavy drug user, mid-40s with a bad heart, in a panicked state and foaming at the mouth.
Everyone is "white racist killer cop murdered black man in cold blood". But if that's not true, then it was just a dumb accident.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||Last Thursday at 11:03 AM|
R289 Bless you, forgive you... but your description is unsupportable by science, and is contradicted by the eyes and common sense. You might want reflect on how what you WANT to see and believe doesn't match facts. It's very far from "well I have the right to believe what I want."
|by Anonymous||reply 290||Last Thursday at 11:06 AM|
[quote] But not sure that Chauvin did that. He was a heavy drug user, mid-40s with a bad heart, in a panicked state and foaming at the mouth.
So I take it you didn’t pay attention at all to the pulmonologist’s testimony?
|by Anonymous||reply 291||Last Thursday at 11:34 AM|
"Foaming at the mouth." OMG, George Floyd had rabies! He was a mad dog that HAD to be put down!
|by Anonymous||reply 292||Last Thursday at 11:49 AM|
R289 says he suffocated, but it wasn’t Chauvin’s knee on his throat that did it? Ayayay.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||Last Thursday at 11:57 AM|
[quote]Well, he suffocated. But not sure that Chauvin did that.
He testified that "a healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to, would have died.”
|by Anonymous||reply 294||Last Thursday at 12:28 PM|
What are CNN & MSNBC ratings on this? There must not be any other news in the country and the world now for many days.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||Last Thursday at 12:34 PM|
[quote] says he suffocated, but it wasn’t Chauvin’s knee on his throat that did it? Ayayay.
The prosecutor has moved the goalposts. Now it's the 𝒏𝒆𝒄𝒌 𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒂 the prosecutor and witnesses have been talking about. Looking it up that covers a lot of anatomy unrelated to breathing.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||Last Thursday at 12:37 PM|
^ Just going to keep lying like your racist hero Ann.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||Last Thursday at 12:44 PM|
Oh lord, the hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||Last Thursday at 1:01 PM|
That expert testimony was pretty devastating for the defence
|by Anonymous||reply 299||Last Thursday at 1:11 PM|
r298 I am a bit behind and not watching in real time ... now I see what you mean
|by Anonymous||reply 300||Last Thursday at 1:17 PM|
Chauvin and his defense attorney are cruising on the Titanic.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||Last Thursday at 1:31 PM|
[quote]What are CNN & MSNBC ratings on this? There must not be any other news in the country and the world now for many days.
The reality is that this is a local story about police misconduct and isn't worthy of constant coverage. The media wants to whip up an emotional frenzy. There is nothing the media loves more than civil unrest. Guaranteed ratings. And reporters telling their stories of how they nearly escaped death while covering a riot so they can up their profiles.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||Last Thursday at 1:38 PM|
R302 has been living in a hole the last few years. I wonder if he even knows there’s a pandemic out there.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||Last Thursday at 1:41 PM|
Mister Derek, you in big trouble, boy ..........
|by Anonymous||reply 304||Last Thursday at 1:54 PM|
Why do guys comb a lock of hair over their bald areas? Who do they think they’re fooling?
|by Anonymous||reply 305||Last Thursday at 1:58 PM|
[quote]He'll be found guilty, of a lesser charge and he won't get a long sentence
As long as he's sent to prison; won't be long after that before he's shanked.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||Last Thursday at 2:02 PM|
Nope r303. This trial is not the national obsession you think it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||Last Thursday at 2:09 PM|
r307 has been all over this thread for days telling us why this trial isn't really newsworthy
Do fuck off, r307
|by Anonymous||reply 308||Last Thursday at 2:13 PM|
R302 Murals with George Floyd's image went up around the world. marches in European cities, Asia. The image of him dying with a knee on his neck resonated around the world. The moment for racism to be aired, seen, addressed... seemed important to huge groups of people. More demonstrations in the streets last summer since the Trump pink hats marches. An argument can be made that the intuitive angry response to the images of Floyd's death fueled Biden's election (e.g. turnout in Georgia).
Relegating the whole thing to "a local story" is what you want, not what is. A huge problem with our current public sphere and national discourse... "what I believe is fact..... never I believe something because of facts."
|by Anonymous||reply 309||Last Thursday at 2:14 PM|
For the HBO movie -- Hal Holbrook IS the Expert Pulmonologist!
|by Anonymous||reply 310||Last Thursday at 2:16 PM|
Like I said, r307. Hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Thursday at 2:16 PM|
Sorry r309 but this trial does not deserve wall-to-wall 24/7 coverage, neglecting other news that has a real impact on our lives and or world.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||Last Thursday at 2:24 PM|
r312 If only there was some sort of device that you can point at your television that will change the channel to something -- anything -- that's not the Chauvin trial!
Or perhaps maybe some kind of "engine" I can search on to find the news that impacts my life and the world!
|by Anonymous||reply 313||Last Thursday at 2:30 PM|
The people who are obsessed with posting on this thread are the ones complaining about the television coverage.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||Last Thursday at 2:32 PM|
We're in the third week of the biggest news story right now and this is only the second thread, half full. That says a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||Last Thursday at 2:33 PM|
r313 if only you were objective about the media's reasons for broadcasting this trial all day every day. But you're a good little sheep who laps up everything on the teevee without question.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||Last Thursday at 2:33 PM|
It says doo doo r315. Wow you’re obsessed with this trial aren’t you?
|by Anonymous||reply 317||Last Thursday at 2:35 PM|
The people who are complaining about the media coverage are the people who’ve posted the most in this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||Last Thursday at 2:37 PM|
r316 -- If only you weren't a pompous cunt that causes everyone to turn and go the other way when they see you.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||Last Thursday at 2:37 PM|
Sorry r319 you need to be more objective about what the media feeds you. And ask questions.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||Last Thursday at 2:38 PM|
Will all the people who think the media is blowing up this trial all out of proportion please stop blowing up this thread all out of proportion?
|by Anonymous||reply 321||Last Thursday at 2:40 PM|
“I will not stop talking about how everyone needs to stop talking about this trial!”
|by Anonymous||reply 322||Last Thursday at 3:01 PM|
“It’s just a local story!”
|by Anonymous||reply 323||Last Thursday at 3:02 PM|
R316 Channels like MSNBC and CNN don't just air events because they want to. They are businesses--everything is because of demand and revenue potential. Just because you're a racist (and or troll), doesn't mean the rest of the world is too..
|by Anonymous||reply 324||Last Thursday at 3:21 PM|
Bless your heart r324. You have no idea how any of this really works.
And the lack of DL enthusiasm on this thread tells you a lot. Three weeks and it's only the second thread. TV shows get more threads than this.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||Last Thursday at 4:08 PM|
DL might lack enthusiasm about this topic R325, but with 25+ posts in this thread you clearly do not.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||Last Thursday at 4:37 PM|
The reason this is only the second thread is 1. Everyone except you recognizes the prosecution is doing a great job proving this case, hence no controversy and 2. R326 is right, look in the mirror if you want to complain about people making a big deal about it. You’ve posted more than everyone. You’re obsessed, I’d say.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||Last Thursday at 4:50 PM|
I watch because I can.
It's especially good with hot coffee and donuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||Last Thursday at 4:51 PM|
[quote]then it was just a dumb accident.
It was not a dumb accident. See the infographic below taken straight from the video
|by Anonymous||reply 329||Last Thursday at 4:55 PM|
No wonder Klan Coulter and her sycophants are trying all their desperate deflection tactics.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||Last Thursday at 5:12 PM|
R325, please tell me how things work.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||Last Thursday at 5:27 PM|
Better get your affairs in order, Mr. Chauvin........
|by Anonymous||reply 332||Last Friday at 7:09 AM|
This Forensic Pathologist lady is too pro-George: "Yeah, there was Fentanyl in him, but...". Just the facts, ma'am.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||Last Friday at 9:06 AM|
I don’t know how to post pictures but - this lady forensic pathologist looks like musical theater legend Mary Martin. All along I have thought that Defense Atty Eric Wilson looks and sounds like Norbert Leo Butz.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||Last Friday at 9:11 AM|
R333–but... she’s stating facts. Isn’t that what you want?
|by Anonymous||reply 335||Last Friday at 9:37 AM|
The Prince Phillip thread is almost maxed out in just four hours. This is week 3 of the trial and only the second thread, half full.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||Last Friday at 9:40 AM|
R133 It's a Fox addict problem - if someone states facts contradicting what's wanted to believe, they are somehow not credible. "Facts" only are those things supporting what is wanted to believe.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||Last Friday at 9:59 AM|
Is r333 the Ann Coulter troll?
|by Anonymous||reply 338||Last Friday at 11:01 AM|
The Medical Examiner of Record© looks like a cross between a middle-aged lesbian and Lucie Arnaz.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||Last Friday at 11:10 AM|
He DOES look like Lucie Arnaz!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 340||Last Friday at 11:17 AM|
r339 cannot unsee
|by Anonymous||reply 341||Last Friday at 11:26 AM|
R339 - Actually he looks more like Christopher Reeve as Clark Kent albeit with different eyeglasses. Apparently his wife was giving him a 'COVID' haircut when he sneezed causing a 'runway' type of bare spot on the top in the middle of his scalp. He did an admiral job of covering it up!
|by Anonymous||reply 342||Last Friday at 11:58 AM|
^^I think you mean R333, not R133.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||Last Friday at 12:23 PM|
^^ It was meant for R333
|by Anonymous||reply 344||Last Friday at 12:50 PM|
R334 YES! That’s who he reminds me of.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||Last Friday at 1:52 PM|
Only Chauvin knows what he did or didn't do. Is he going to testify?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||Last Friday at 2:30 PM|
R346 You mean what he might report his "intent" was. There are infinite ways of knowing what he "did" without hearing his own account.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||Last Friday at 2:46 PM|
He won’t testify. I’m sure his lawyers have drilled into him that it would be terrible for his case. And intent doesn’t matter. Not for what he’s charged with. The equivalent would be, hey I had my hands around his neck and was cutting off his oxygen, but prove I didn’t intend to kill him. I never said anything! Intent isn’t needed. He’s going away for the rest of his life.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||Last Friday at 2:56 PM|
[quote]The Medical Examiner of Record© looks like a cross between a middle-aged lesbian and Lucie Arnaz.
That's a bad angle; to me he looks like a younger version of Bruce Campbell.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||Last Friday at 4:39 PM|
Seems like the defense is proving the prosecution's case a lot the last couple days.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||Last Friday at 7:06 PM|
And none of it would have happened if perennial loser George Floyd hadn't gotten himself into trouble yet again. Then violently resisted arrest while yelping, "I'm not that kinda guy!" (yeah, you kinda were).
Now he's dead. Lives are ruined. And for what?
|by Anonymous||reply 351||Last Friday at 7:49 PM|
R351 keeps trying.... why are you on DL? Klan meeting get canceled tonight?
|by Anonymous||reply 352||Last Friday at 7:56 PM|
Stop giving them satisfaction. I know it's old-fashioned, but if we ignore them, they completely stop.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||Yesterday at 8:30 AM|
R353, interesting and accurate.
[quote] we understand the internet troll as someone who is callous, lacks a sense of personal responsibility and enjoys causing others harm.
That hits the nail pretty damn hard on the head and describes a number of DL posters.
[quote] Respond with outward indifference and strict no tolerance. Let’s work together to dismantle the power of the troll and take back the internet from their influence.
I'm not sure how to implement that in real life, but not ignoring trolls, while also not feeding their egos sounds like a good idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||Yesterday at 8:39 AM|
r354 I try to remind myself that trolls are terrible people offline too. The funny thing is, sometimes the trolls who get very personal on DL are rather effective ... it's stupid and I know I shouldn't let it get to me
|by Anonymous||reply 355||Yesterday at 8:42 AM|
I love how the ME’s name is Doc Baker.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||20 hours ago|