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Disney probably won’t reshoot Armie Hammer’s scenes in Death on the Nile, but may send it straight to Hulu

Reshoots would be too expensive given Hammer’s prominence in the film and the very large ensemble cast.

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by Anonymousreply 474May 3, 2021 9:04 PM

and nothing of value was lost

by Anonymousreply 1March 30, 2021 9:15 PM

So dumb.

Just put out the fucking movie

Most people don't know who Armie Hammer is, much less about this stupid "scandal." Even more so, most people DON'T CARE.

These idiots are just shooting themselves in the foot, kow-tow-ing to the WOKE SJW's.

NOBODY CARES.

Armie is not exactly a household name.

Just put out the fucking movie, and be done with it.

I really don't get Hollywood. It's run by fucking imbeciles.

by Anonymousreply 2March 30, 2021 9:20 PM

Oh please. He’s not a cannibal cannibal.

by Anonymousreply 3March 30, 2021 9:38 PM

Have any of the accusations/allegations against Armie, even been proven?

NO? I didn't think so.

Funny how women can just ruin lives based on accusations, rather than having to produce any actual PROOF.

by Anonymousreply 4March 30, 2021 9:41 PM

Not just women.

by Anonymousreply 5March 30, 2021 9:42 PM

What would you accept as PROOF, R4?

by Anonymousreply 6March 30, 2021 9:43 PM

How about actual EVIDENCE, R6.

So far, no one has produced anything except for words.

by Anonymousreply 7March 30, 2021 9:47 PM

What kind of EVIDENCE would you expect women who claim to have been abused to have?

by Anonymousreply 8March 30, 2021 9:48 PM

That burden is on THEM, R8.

You can't just flap your lips and make accusations without any proof.

I could say you stole $300 bucks from me. Does that make it true? NO. Cops would demand proof.

So where is the PROOF from these women, besides their empty accusations? THEY DON'T HAVE ANY.

by Anonymousreply 9March 30, 2021 9:50 PM

We only recast gay men.

by Anonymousreply 10March 30, 2021 9:50 PM

[quote] Most people don't know who Armie Hammer is, much less about this stupid "scandal." Even more so, most people DON'T CARE.

While I agree that most people don’t care, people most assuredly know who Hammer is.

by Anonymousreply 11March 30, 2021 9:50 PM

Outside of Datalounge R11, I don't think Armie is very well known.

by Anonymousreply 12March 30, 2021 9:51 PM

DON'T try to erase someone's existence, including in movies, just because they're having problems. You're hurting EVERYONE in the process, including box office receipts.

What's going on here is hysteria and petty mindedness.

by Anonymousreply 13March 30, 2021 9:53 PM

R2 Hammer may not be a "household name" but the scandal is known to people who following entertainment news, who are the audience for films like this.

by Anonymousreply 14March 30, 2021 9:55 PM

He looks so sexy with that mustache, but we can't *have* mustaches anymore because "70s porn stache". Never mind that hundreds of millions of men around the world have mustaches and none of them even know about '70s porn movies.

by Anonymousreply 15March 30, 2021 9:55 PM

[quote]You can't just flap your lips and make accusations without any proof.

Are you new to the Social Media Age?

by Anonymousreply 16March 30, 2021 9:55 PM

just release it as part of the Hammer Horror series

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by Anonymousreply 17March 30, 2021 10:14 PM

Just cut him out of that damn movie and instead of recasting re-real ease the original so we can see DL faves Bette Davis, Jane Birkenhead, Angela Lansbury and Mia Farrow. Besides Simon McCorkindale was so delicious!!

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by Anonymousreply 18March 30, 2021 10:16 PM

There's no way to cut Hammer out without reshooting a large part of the film. And let's face it - if this thing is as lousy as Orient Express, why spend another dime on it?

Branagh isn't exactly on a roll these days. Artemis Fowl got less-than-stellar reviews and went straight to streaming. He must be steaming about all this.

by Anonymousreply 19March 30, 2021 10:45 PM

Your regular reminder that you don't have to be proven to have broken the law to fuck up your image.

Creepy gross DMs will do it just fine - if he didn't write them all he should really say so.

Hollywood relies on image and he's fucked his whatever the outcome of the police investigation.

by Anonymousreply 20March 30, 2021 10:47 PM

Isn't he playing a murderer in the movie? It's not like he's playing some nice guy hero, so they should release it and play up the "cannibal" to get people to see it.

by Anonymousreply 21March 30, 2021 10:52 PM

" ... straight to Hulu"

Sounds like a curse. And doesn't he look like a dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 22March 30, 2021 10:53 PM

Disney.

So wholesome.

by Anonymousreply 23March 30, 2021 10:53 PM

Unrelated to the scandal, what do you think of his stash? I think when trimmed that far above the lip they look weird (though it may be a period style choice). You don’t need to go full Sam Elliott, but I feel mustaches look better when they overlap the lip somewhat.

by Anonymousreply 24March 30, 2021 10:55 PM

From the studio that cast Bill Cosby as the devil.

by Anonymousreply 25March 30, 2021 10:57 PM

In these troubled times, please don't deprive us of the sizzling combination of Armie Hammer and Gal Gadot.

by Anonymousreply 26March 30, 2021 11:00 PM

R21, it’s been brought up most people don’t know or care about Hammer.

However, the critics and media darlings who are all fake woke, will trash this movie in order to get woke points.

by Anonymousreply 27March 30, 2021 11:08 PM

R6 and R8: It's not a question of whether his accuser has proof. The reason why what is happening is unfair is that it is being adjudicated by people who have no direct knowledge of the events in question.

The way to adjudicate it fairly is to get those involved in the allegations together (accuser and accused) in front of a judge, jury or impartial mediator so that everyone can tell their side of the story and present whatever evidence is available, and an impartial decision can be made. This is how a fair judicial process works.

by Anonymousreply 28March 30, 2021 11:14 PM

The man's career should not be ruined based on unfounded accusations.

by Anonymousreply 29March 30, 2021 11:19 PM

They're seriously waiting a year to release what essentially a sweeps month two part episode of "Murder, She Wrote." After that piece of shit Branaugh delivered before, they just need to cut their losses and get it out there.

by Anonymousreply 30March 30, 2021 11:20 PM

R29 Hollywood doesn't owe him a career

If he's poison with audiences he isn't going to get hired.

by Anonymousreply 31March 30, 2021 11:21 PM

R28 She went to the police in February.

It IS a legal process now.

In the meantime Armie is free to present any evidence he wants to rescue his reputation

He isn't silenced just silent.

by Anonymousreply 32March 30, 2021 11:23 PM

Armie has access to a lot of money.

He should sue these bitches for slander.

Then sue them for loss of wages.

Take them for every fucking penny they've got.

Their actions should have consequences. If they don't have the proof to back up their claims, they should be made to pay.

by Anonymousreply 33March 30, 2021 11:31 PM

R33 Have you considered the possibility he's guilty?

by Anonymousreply 34March 30, 2021 11:34 PM

R33 He should start by telling us which ones of the DMs are faked

I mean he did subpoena them didn't he?

by Anonymousreply 35March 30, 2021 11:38 PM

INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, R34.

You know, if you want to go by the LAW?

by Anonymousreply 36March 30, 2021 11:38 PM

R35 They're real. He would have made a statement by now.

by Anonymousreply 37March 30, 2021 11:38 PM

R36 Yes dumbass. But he can't sue for defamation if she told the truth.

by Anonymousreply 38March 30, 2021 11:39 PM

R36 WHY are YOU SCREAMING?

by Anonymousreply 39March 30, 2021 11:40 PM

R37 Exactly my point,

Those DMs are enough on their own to cancel this bitch.

by Anonymousreply 40March 30, 2021 11:40 PM

If he had any recourse, he would have stopped her long ago. He'd have C&D on her and already be suing her for defamation. She's been at this for months.

by Anonymousreply 41March 30, 2021 11:42 PM

The point the loons seem to be forgetting is that Hollywood is a business.

They aren't going to hire someone who is being investigated for a crime that could land him in prison because he would have to be recast mid way through a film.

He's unemployable at the moment

by Anonymousreply 42March 30, 2021 11:42 PM

[quote] WHY are YOU SCREAMING?

Because men need to start fighting back against this bullshit. Fight hard!

We can't let women get away with this crap.

"Believe all women." FUCK THAT.

by Anonymousreply 43March 30, 2021 11:42 PM

R43 You sound hysterical

by Anonymousreply 44March 30, 2021 11:43 PM

If he was innocent he'd have stopped speaking to her and filed a complaint when she sent the first ss last March outlining the rape. Not that wishy washy BS about not being able to fuck her anymore but just remain friends. Who would stay friends with someone accusing you of rape?

by Anonymousreply 45March 30, 2021 11:44 PM

I will never get this line of thinking. If I go see this movie? I'm not endorsing Armie or his choices. He's an actor. It's so dumb. I'd be so pissed if I was the producers/writer/director/actors involved. Why punish them for Armie's punishing of women?

by Anonymousreply 46March 31, 2021 12:01 AM

I'd be pissed if I wasted time shooting this movie to have it pop up on Hulu because some spoiled idiot couldn't control himself.

by Anonymousreply 47March 31, 2021 12:05 AM

The director and producers only have themselves to blame.

Rumours about this guy have been around for ages.

by Anonymousreply 48March 31, 2021 12:06 AM

No one has to prove they are innocent. It is the accuser who has to prove guilt. And if Hammer has a good lawyer, the lawyer will be telling him to keep his mouth shut. He cannot win an argument with the virulent haters in the Twittershpere, nor does he owe them an explanation.

by Anonymousreply 49March 31, 2021 12:10 AM

R49 He doesn't deserve a career or reputation either then.

by Anonymousreply 50March 31, 2021 12:13 AM

R49 Don't forget his own team dropped him.

Are they virulent haters too?

by Anonymousreply 51March 31, 2021 12:17 AM

Why are you guys arguing with the one loser on this thread who keeps defending him because women are the worst?

Hammer is over! Bye loser!

by Anonymousreply 52March 31, 2021 12:57 AM

So now that he’s been drummed out of Hollywood, will he go crawling to Broadway? Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 53March 31, 2021 1:02 AM

He seems to be a disgusting POS but I'm absolutely against editing movie history to pretend that actors are all flawless creatures and never said, did, or thought anything wrong. How awful and tedious. Only movies will remain that survived a three layered purity check and as everything is going to be in the cloud in 5 years, the judges about good and evil can just cut the scenes they don't see fit for the plebs. That's far more sickening than any revelation about Hammer could ever be.

by Anonymousreply 54March 31, 2021 1:31 AM

[quote] One source familiar with an early cut of “Death on the Nile” said Hammer’s role is significant to the point of being the film’s male lead.

Can't wait to finally see the movie. Perfect casting.

by Anonymousreply 55March 31, 2021 8:17 AM

They couldn’t find another actor that presents the same bulge.

by Anonymousreply 56March 31, 2021 8:21 AM

I'm sure his dick is hard throughout the movie knowing he's the male lead. That must be an incredible feeling.

by Anonymousreply 57March 31, 2021 8:23 AM

Funnily enough, a similar thing happened with another recent Christie, Ordeal by Innocence, where the actor who played Micky turned out to be a pædo and so they refilmed all his scenes. But he, while being one of the major characters, wasn't as integral to Ordeal by Innocence as Simon is to Death on the Nile.

R18, that picture is honestly the first time I've boned up over Simon MacCorkindale - I never really found him as hot in Death on the Nile. I think it was the hairstyle.

I wish they'd just release the damn film. Unfortunately, I know I'm going to dislike it, but still, I want to see it, even if it's hate watching.

by Anonymousreply 58March 31, 2021 8:47 AM

R57 Lets hope so because he's never going to get that feeling again.

by Anonymousreply 59March 31, 2021 9:37 AM

Such disinformation, R58. the actor Ed Westwick was Me-tod, not accused of anything to do with kids. It was investigated, no charges were placed, and his career has resumed.

by Anonymousreply 60March 31, 2021 9:42 AM

There are no witnesses left, only table scraps.

by Anonymousreply 61March 31, 2021 9:45 AM

SPOILER ALERT

[quote]Isn't he playing a murderer in the movie? It's not like he's playing some nice guy hero, so they should release it and play up the "cannibal" to get people to see it.

Yes, and from a curiosity value it works well to think the suave charming man could be a TOTAL WRONG'UN.

In much the same way I'm sure a lot of people relished seeing wife beater Johnny Depp getting stabbed to death in Murder On The Orient Express.

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by Anonymousreply 62March 31, 2021 9:51 AM

R60, I do apologise, I just looked it up and you're correct. I don't know what I was thinking of then. I'm sure this has happened with someone else in a situation like I described. Anyway, mea culpa.

by Anonymousreply 63March 31, 2021 9:54 AM

[quote] I'm sure this has happened with someone else in a situation like I described.

sure

by Anonymousreply 64March 31, 2021 10:03 AM

Go make some friends, R64. People make honest mistakes sometimes. Which you'd know if you ever left your house.

by Anonymousreply 65March 31, 2021 10:12 AM

Straight to streaming is where this turkey belongs.

Disney are just using Hammer as the excuse.

by Anonymousreply 66March 31, 2021 10:12 AM

R66 His last movie topped the streaming charts so he'd probably welcome it.

by Anonymousreply 67March 31, 2021 10:14 AM

R67 Was that Crisis?

by Anonymousreply 68March 31, 2021 10:16 AM

R67 Of course he would.

Its every movie star's dream to not make it to the big picture screen

by Anonymousreply 69March 31, 2021 10:17 AM

Orient Express was BORING so expectations this would be too.

by Anonymousreply 70March 31, 2021 10:54 AM

R69 Is that why they are all thirsting for their own Netflix show? Because they want to be on the silver screen?

by Anonymousreply 71March 31, 2021 10:55 AM

They should ignore allegations and release the damn movie as planned, it's not like he was fooling with underage kids. Also we need some of his dick pics.

by Anonymousreply 72March 31, 2021 11:47 AM

[quote] We only recast gay men.

[quote] —Hollywood

I ... am gay????? That explains so much!

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by Anonymousreply 73March 31, 2021 11:47 AM

Charmies - Your regular reminder that Armie Hammer hates you

You brood of vipers you!

by Anonymousreply 74March 31, 2021 11:53 AM

Bring it down a notch, you don’t always have to chew the scenery.

by Anonymousreply 75March 31, 2021 11:55 AM

R74 I take it he didn't want to fuck you. You just can't compete with young beautiful instagram models.

by Anonymousreply 76March 31, 2021 11:56 AM

[quote] Branagh isn't exactly on a roll these days. Artemis Fowl got less-than-stellar reviews and went straight to streaming. He must be steaming about all this.

Artemis Fowl was released early 2020 shortly after the pandemic hit and several countries were in lockdown.

I could see Branagh demanding for DoTN to be pushed for a release when movie theaters are back open and the pandemic is no longer on anybody's mind. But as we know now that could take years and Disney had enough and decided to stream it.

And Hulu isn't that bad. Love, Victor the teen gay drama series is releasing its second season on Hulo soon.

by Anonymousreply 77March 31, 2021 11:56 AM

R76 I don't enjoy being choked out and bitten so that's another win for me!!!

by Anonymousreply 78March 31, 2021 11:57 AM

R78 That's too bad. You could have accused him of rape a few years later. Think of all the attention.

by Anonymousreply 79March 31, 2021 11:58 AM

Given Hammer's role in the movie, I would totally do some reshoot, maybe just some re-editing if I was the producer. Maybe just add some SFX in the editing process. When the dead body is shown a leg or arm would now have some bite wounds. Or Hammer could have some blood dripping off his mouth. How about showing a random chewed off finger under the couch etc. It's not a good movie, so just make it as campy as possible. And market the hell out of Hammer's story.

by Anonymousreply 80March 31, 2021 12:09 PM

Hollywood and most businesses are very protective of their brand. Just look how quick Nike bitch slapped Lil Nas X and MSCHF for using their brand to promote themselves without Nike's permission.

Now, the public doesn't know what't true about the allegations about Armie Hammer. But you know who should know more about these allegations? Armie Hammer's former PR team which decided to drop him. There must be enough evidence out there that it doesn't make him a good fit for any Hollywood project right now. Whether the evidence is good enough for legal court is beside the point. For many people, and - as mentioned - Hollywood and most businesses, their public image is their bread and butter and Armie's public image is, due to his own fault, tarnished. Nobody wants that associated with their own image branding.

by Anonymousreply 81March 31, 2021 12:09 PM

R79 You need some new material.

Its like Hammer's face...

Its getting old

by Anonymousreply 82March 31, 2021 12:19 PM

R81 Yup. The DMs alone make him poison.

The idiot really thought 'coming out' as a sadistic Dominant Daddy would play well.

Dumb for days.

by Anonymousreply 83March 31, 2021 12:20 PM

The scandal didn't hurt his last movie, or his follower count. On the contrary. Most people saw right through the allegation. So Hollywood execs have already proof that people don't give a shit. Disney just wants to bank on people going back to cinemas. That's also why they moved Black Widow.

by Anonymousreply 84March 31, 2021 12:53 PM

R84 They've dropped him from ALL of his future roles

by Anonymousreply 85March 31, 2021 1:02 PM

R85 Yes, because he's under investigation right now and doesn't have insurance.

by Anonymousreply 86March 31, 2021 1:06 PM

R86 Why would he be under investigation if everyone has already seen through the allegations?

Are the LAPD really stupid or something?

by Anonymousreply 87March 31, 2021 1:07 PM

Armie is now the Typhoid Mary of movies. Everything that he touches curdles.

Hollywood is collectively cutting its losses and getting rid of the problem children. There are a million reasons why. #metoo, the pandemic...those are just a few...

by Anonymousreply 88March 31, 2021 1:15 PM

His character is essential to the movie, I don’t see how a reshoot will be possible with all the actors involved (and this is, mostly, an ensemble piece). I also agree that the reshooting logic is a terrible idea in general, let the public decide and those who are offended stay away.

by Anonymousreply 89March 31, 2021 1:16 PM

R89 If people stay away Disney loses money so it really comes down to a business decision as to whether to reshoot.

I think its unlikely.

I doubt they'll ever work with him again though.

by Anonymousreply 90March 31, 2021 1:20 PM

R89 They already confirmed they won't do reshoots. They chose to cast him again after the toe video and they will cast him again in the future. A fake rape allegation is par for the course as a celebrity. All them whores want a piece of the pie. Disney knows that better than anyone.

by Anonymousreply 91March 31, 2021 1:33 PM

R91 par for the course ...

Yup this is just like that time when erm... er... no - I can't think of another similar case.

by Anonymousreply 92March 31, 2021 1:50 PM

Marlon Brando is a similar case.

His personal life was a train wreck. Much worse than Armies'.

He was far more talented, but despite his really bad behavior, worked constantly.

by Anonymousreply 93March 31, 2021 2:37 PM

R93 Brando would have been given the boot had he started his career now.

by Anonymousreply 94March 31, 2021 3:01 PM

Brando was never branded as a cannibal in the public mind.

by Anonymousreply 95March 31, 2021 3:03 PM

Comparing Marlon Brando to Armie Hammer. Thanks for that, i needed a good laugh today.

by Anonymousreply 96March 31, 2021 3:35 PM

Simpi posting 40+ posts about Bird Bakery...

The loons seem to have retreated back to their safety blanket of Liz hating.

by Anonymousreply 97March 31, 2021 4:26 PM

I wasn't comparing talent (as stated) just fucked up personal lives r96.

by Anonymousreply 98March 31, 2021 4:41 PM

R97 nature is healing.

by Anonymousreply 99March 31, 2021 4:41 PM

R98 comparing talent is relevant. People are more willing to forgive/excuse awful behavior if you're talented. Marlon was, Armie isn't. Also being in movies today is not the same as it was 50 years ago (obviously).

by Anonymousreply 100March 31, 2021 4:49 PM

Not a Charmie writing to Gloria to check she is STILL representing Effie.

Pwease tell us your strategy...

LMFAO - these bitches are delusional

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by Anonymousreply 101March 31, 2021 5:21 PM

[quote]I have no comment why I'm representing her.

We neither, Gloria.

by Anonymousreply 102March 31, 2021 5:25 PM

People will separate the art from the artist for someone like Brando, Polanski or Michael Jackson

Not Armie Hammie Bakie Sodie

by Anonymousreply 103March 31, 2021 5:27 PM

I will probably not see this, because Kenneth Branagh does not understand the story and so seriously messed up in the casting department, but I do like the somewhat sloppy look AH is sporting here, stache very much included

by Anonymousreply 104March 31, 2021 5:28 PM

R102 Cry more stan trash

by Anonymousreply 105March 31, 2021 5:32 PM

I feel bad saying it but if this puts an end to Kenneth Brannagh's fucking awful Poirot, then good.

What arrogance to remake not one but two mystery classics as well as his razzie-worthy joke performance. His casting for DOTN is so poor compared to the STARS of the 1978 version.

by Anonymousreply 106March 31, 2021 5:36 PM

I am excited about it because of French and Saunders. I mean, I've seen the one with Angela Lansbury and the one with Frances De La Tour. I kind of get the gist what the story is about. I'm curious what Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders did with whatever Kenneth threw at them.

by Anonymousreply 107March 31, 2021 5:50 PM

It's the central trio (Linnet, Simon, and Jaqueline) Branagh doesn't understand, and thus doesn't understand the story, but by all means, enjoy French and Saunders!

by Anonymousreply 108March 31, 2021 6:04 PM

R105 You seem awfully stressed today. Are you ok, honey? Just open your heart for your savior Armie and everything will be alright.

by Anonymousreply 109March 31, 2021 6:09 PM

R109 Lol.

I'm here for damnation not salvation

by Anonymousreply 110March 31, 2021 6:13 PM

Michael and Debbie forming an axis of evil.

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by Anonymousreply 111March 31, 2021 6:46 PM

Get Josh Pence. He'd probably love to reshoot Armie's scenes. Or just cgi his face on to Armie's!

by Anonymousreply 112March 31, 2021 6:59 PM

So many stupid posters here who obviously haven't heard of DUE PROCESS, which is guaranteed by the 5th and 14th Amendments. I'm not American and I'm even aware:

[quote]"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury... nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

He is guilty in the eyes of (some) public opinion, but hearsay is not proof.

I only first heard of Hammer in 2017, when CALL ME BY YOUR NAME came out. Even then, it seems, that some (mainly white) women were intent on slandering his name. I remember the movie was a hit and he was receiving Oscar buzz and even got a Golden Globe nod. Suddenly, some blonde female SJW (of course) at BuzzFeed came out with a scathing article saying that didn't deserve his career and that he was too white/privileged. It was very WTF!

Obviously, she was looking for woke points, as are many white SJWs, especially women. In the end, he missed out on an Oscar nomination, mainly because of the #metoo movement that started up around that time. Suddenly, his character in CALL ME BY YOUR NAME was seen as a predator. Interesting that he was never accused of anything at the time, especially since that Oscar season was occurring at the height of #metoo and he was being dumped on by SJW rags.

I agree that nobody else but SJW Americans care about this scandal. I'm from Central America and either he is unknown to many or most don't give a fuck here, mainly because we can see right through the bullshit. Frankly, it just seems that SJWs have been on a mission to ruin white celebrities, mainly the men. The whole Ansel Elgort 'scandal' last summer was stupid, too.

by Anonymousreply 113March 31, 2021 7:36 PM

R113 Yeah. No-one is going to read that

by Anonymousreply 114March 31, 2021 7:39 PM

OK. Who sent the blinds to DeuxMoi saying they saw Timmy and Lily holding hands?

Charmies are melting the fuck down lol.

by Anonymousreply 115March 31, 2021 9:43 PM

Armie being revealed to have had loads of women and being investigated for rape AND Timmy and LRD being back together? Karma really decided not to spare Charmies this year at all, huh? Damn.

by Anonymousreply 116March 31, 2021 9:52 PM

Sooo...... DeuxMoi have confirmed they have seen the photo of them together but have been asked not to post it by the person who sent it in.

Lolololololololololol

Won't somebody think of poor Armie's feelings?!?!??!

by Anonymousreply 117March 31, 2021 9:54 PM

I think it's time for Timmy to hijack this thread. Harmie's career is OVAH and he's never coming back. Timmy and Lily make a cute couple, as always. I'm happy for them. (And also happy about the big serving of harsh reality being served up to the demented Charmies.)

by Anonymousreply 118March 31, 2021 11:01 PM

Too bad you can't digitally insert me anymore.

by Anonymousreply 119April 1, 2021 5:28 AM

At least the Lilothee sighting will give crackaddict2.0 a break from obsessing about Liz's weight/surgery/existence, while she obsesses instead about Lily's forehead/jeans/whatevs.

by Anonymousreply 120April 1, 2021 8:19 AM

All these posts from simpi screeching "innocent until proven guilty" have a very "the First Amendment means Twitter can't ban me" energy.

I'm still cackling about that letter they sent to Allred trying to threaten her

by Anonymousreply 121April 1, 2021 11:10 AM

R121 Also you don't need a court of law to tell you those DMs were gross lol.

Nothing is going back the way it was.

Sorry 'bout it!

by Anonymousreply 122April 1, 2021 11:12 AM

Simpi is now posting all the bad reviews of Bird Bakery she can find on Yelp.

What is wrong with these bitches??!?!!?

by Anonymousreply 123April 1, 2021 11:17 AM

R119 I fear Armie may be getting plenty of digital insertions soon.

Maybe a whole fist?

by Anonymousreply 124April 1, 2021 11:22 AM

Either leak some dick pics or stop giving space to these attention whores.

by Anonymousreply 125April 1, 2021 11:35 AM

These threads would be actually fun if it was just gay guys talking. Cunts ruin everything. Especially the ugly ones here that devoted their life to this guy.

by Anonymousreply 126April 1, 2021 11:48 AM

R126 Presumably only the gay guys who have the same opinions as you though right?

by Anonymousreply 127April 1, 2021 12:13 PM

R123 i kinda think most of these bad reviews were written by her and other charmies.

by Anonymousreply 128April 1, 2021 12:47 PM

R127 Trust me, no gay guy cares about your idiotic stan shit. That's all middle aged spinsters.

by Anonymousreply 129April 1, 2021 1:30 PM

R129 But but but I am a gay guy so you're proving my point.

We're quite a diverse bunch

by Anonymousreply 130April 1, 2021 1:56 PM

These threads would be no existent if it was just ordinary DLers. Armie isn't even the star if his own scandal.

by Anonymousreply 131April 1, 2021 2:33 PM

What the fuck is a simpi? People posting endlessly about charmies, what charmies are doing, mentioning them by name, etc., are as bad as the stans they mock. They're melting down!! No one cares. It's boring af.

by Anonymousreply 132April 1, 2021 3:39 PM

Y'all do know what the ignore button is for right?

by Anonymousreply 133April 1, 2021 3:50 PM

R132 From what I've gathered, a Simpi is someone you don't like but follow extensively online. Why they do that? I have no idea.

by Anonymousreply 134April 1, 2021 3:55 PM

R134 You're right.

People should only follow people they like and behave like simpering idiots

by Anonymousreply 135April 1, 2021 4:01 PM

R134 I don't follow Simpi, but I can answer that. Simpi has repeatedly manufactured false evidence to exonerate her hero Harmie. If she stayed in her own crazy lane, people would be happy to ignore her, but she is actually an active supporter of a man who takes pleasure in abusing women. Thus, she is reviled by those who oppose rape, torture, and animal abuse.

by Anonymousreply 136April 1, 2021 4:04 PM

Seeing as y'all are up in your feeling about talk of Charmies here's an Effie update

Enjoy!

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by Anonymousreply 137April 1, 2021 4:10 PM

With Christopher Plummer now deceased I was hoping they might hire Kevin Spacey to reshoot those scenes.

by Anonymousreply 138April 1, 2021 4:15 PM

R135 So you agree that you follow people that you don't like. Fascinating.

R137 We don't need an update from that lying whore.

by Anonymousreply 139April 1, 2021 4:19 PM

r136 Jesus. Well, maybe someone should start a standalone simpi thread so all the simpi stans can peddle their outrage there.

by Anonymousreply 140April 1, 2021 4:21 PM

R140 She’s nothing without Armie so she rightfully belongs here. I hear she has taken up BDSM too, the better to lure him with.

by Anonymousreply 141April 1, 2021 4:27 PM

R139 Of course I'm interested in the behaviour of despicable people - I'm not stan-minded.

I follow Armie for the same reason - he's cunt and karma is coming for him.

by Anonymousreply 142April 1, 2021 4:28 PM

R113, nice try. Armie just didn’t put in an Oscar caliber performance.

Really, does he ever?

by Anonymousreply 143April 1, 2021 4:32 PM

R141

[quote] She’s nothing without Armie

So she's just like you? I can see how that might draw you to her.

by Anonymousreply 144April 1, 2021 4:32 PM

Wow the stan nation are in full effect today.

Must be a slow day after all the stalking of the Bird Bakery financial records and divorce nosey-bonking yesterday.

Charmies are in no position to be offended at the concept of hate watching - Its 95% of their ship these days.

by Anonymousreply 145April 1, 2021 4:35 PM

His idiot stans add another layer of crazy by inserting themselves into an already bizarre scandal. Their obsession is frightening but it's kind of fascinating to watch.

by Anonymousreply 146April 1, 2021 4:41 PM

You've really run out of ideas. You just copy and paste the same shit you spew every single day on here. It's embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 147April 1, 2021 4:43 PM

R147 You can leave any time you like babe.

by Anonymousreply 148April 1, 2021 4:47 PM

Another comment you picked up from somewhere else. Zero originality.

by Anonymousreply 149April 1, 2021 4:49 PM

R148 I probably picked it up from my paid account babe.

Any way some good news.

The fake scandal is over and Armie has been cast in a new role

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by Anonymousreply 150April 1, 2021 4:51 PM

Not a bad choice

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by Anonymousreply 151April 1, 2021 5:36 PM

R151 Tweet disappeared?

I'm guessing its about this?

Go the Brits!!!

I love Dan. Plus he can act and is less likely to bite you.

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by Anonymousreply 152April 1, 2021 7:03 PM

ha ha

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by Anonymousreply 153April 1, 2021 7:32 PM

R144 Darling, I’m here for the train wreck and she is the chief engineer shoveling the coals ever faster. I just hope this lasts through the next lockdown. Never a dull moment following Mr Armie

by Anonymousreply 154April 1, 2021 11:23 PM

Well this is a.....

lot

Size queen apparently

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by Anonymousreply 155April 2, 2021 12:09 AM

R155 It doesn't actually say its him of course.

It could just be another woman's story that's she's sharing.

by Anonymousreply 156April 2, 2021 12:12 AM

She's really going in again-Here is her impression of someone:

“I have NEVER touched a puppy! Just because there’s actual footage of my very identifiable hands aggressively petting pups back and forth as their tongue is all over me, and a thousand people know about my secret love of dogs, does not mean they exist."

by Anonymousreply 157April 2, 2021 12:48 AM

R121, corporate censorship is a thing despite your attempts to define it out of existence.

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by Anonymousreply 158April 2, 2021 1:55 AM

R158 Aww, you're so dumb you completely missed the point.

by Anonymousreply 159April 2, 2021 8:59 AM

No, you’re projecting your stupidity onto me in order to justify your fascist opinions.

by Anonymousreply 160April 2, 2021 9:05 AM

Let's take a knee and think about how Effie has destroyed Armie Hammer.

Amen.

by Anonymousreply 161April 2, 2021 10:18 AM

R161 She really has succeeded where legions of film critics have failed.

by Anonymousreply 162April 2, 2021 10:28 AM

R162 Nah, don't go there, remember that's what Armie wants to believe. That his projects got bad reviews because of conspiracies, rather than just him being shit and his projects being shit.

by Anonymousreply 163April 2, 2021 2:00 PM

R163 No conspiracy implied.

The critics were merely telling the truth.

by Anonymousreply 164April 2, 2021 2:12 PM

R164 How are you this dense? Your previous post suggested critics were trying to destroy Armie Hammer. That's the conspiracy he wants people to believe. They weren't, they were just reviewing the films.

by Anonymousreply 165April 2, 2021 2:27 PM

R165 I think I know what I meant by my own post.

Bore off

by Anonymousreply 166April 2, 2021 2:59 PM

R166 There's a difference between you knowing what you meant and you being able to convey it properly. Not my fault you can't write a decent post.

by Anonymousreply 167April 2, 2021 3:07 PM

R167 Bore off

by Anonymousreply 168April 2, 2021 3:07 PM

R168 You've posted a quarter of the posts in this thread from one account alone, so when it comes to boring you certainly take the crown.

by Anonymousreply 169April 2, 2021 3:09 PM

R169 Well seeing as you haven't hit the ignore button you must still be a fan?

I block you to spare the rest of the room

by Anonymousreply 170April 2, 2021 3:16 PM

[quote]I block you

Ah, more of that totally native English

by Anonymousreply 171April 2, 2021 3:18 PM

“I have loved every single second of working on The Minutes with the family I made from Steppenwolf. But right now I need to focus on myself and my health for the sake of my family. Consequently, I will not be returning to Broadway with the production,” Hammer said in a statement.

The production team, led by producer Jeffrey Richards, released the following statement: “Armie remains a valued colleague to all of us who have worked with him onstage and offstage on The Minutes. We wish only the best for him and respect his decision.”

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by Anonymousreply 172April 2, 2021 10:06 PM

Simpi on suicide watch?

by Anonymousreply 173April 2, 2021 11:32 PM

Just burn this garbage film now.

by Anonymousreply 174April 3, 2021 7:34 AM

Not Armie stans inserting themselves in the story as competition for Lizzie

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by Anonymousreply 175April 3, 2021 8:01 PM

God, why are they still obsessed with her. I mean, I know why, but at the same time I can't quite believe that even they genuinely think she's behind all of this.

by Anonymousreply 176April 3, 2021 8:03 PM

They're jealous of EVERY woman who got to ride the A train.

by Anonymousreply 177April 3, 2021 9:47 PM

Sooooooooo

Simpi just had to admit that the 'fat mexican cow' ss is a fake.

Don't worry though - Effie did it to discredit her because reasons.

by Anonymousreply 178April 4, 2021 11:02 AM

R178 fat mexican cow??

by Anonymousreply 179April 4, 2021 11:10 AM

R179 This bullshit

The language by itself is a give away - typical juvenile Charmie hyperbolic bollocks

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by Anonymousreply 180April 4, 2021 5:00 PM

Literally nuts

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by Anonymousreply 181April 4, 2021 5:28 PM

[quote] So many stupid posters here who obviously haven't heard of DUE PROCESS,

Due Process plays no role in what Disney can and cannot do with this film, yutzik. Hammer could be found not guilty in court and Disney could still send the movie straight to Hulu, reshoot Hammer's role, cancel the movie altogether, or whatever the hell else they want. If they decide he's a liability and they don't want to the proceed with the film as planned, they can do that, no matter how innocent he is. Their business decision is separate from and not governed by whatever legal decisions might be made concerning the allegations against Hammer.

by Anonymousreply 182April 4, 2021 6:00 PM

R181 Wait, is she using the same image compression shit that Simpi used to "prove" the Russian's DMs were fake?

by Anonymousreply 183April 4, 2021 6:13 PM

R183 Simpi published that Charmie wish fulfilment screenshot and it got called out straight away by her own followers lol.

Then a fan of Simpi offered to get her friend in Australia to check it out. He is a photography expert or something. He claimed the text is on a separate layer to the images, the images are square rather than circular etc etc.

Who the hell knows?

Basically Simpi got taken in by Charmie fake news and now claims she was set up. Clown world

by Anonymousreply 184April 4, 2021 6:29 PM

R184 Oh shit, I didn't even realise the second link was Simpi. So she posted a fake screenshot, and rather than just admit it she tries to twist it around so somehow she's the victim? Whilst also keeping the original tweet up, knowing people will still link to it as "proof" Effie is racist. What a piece of work.

by Anonymousreply 185April 4, 2021 7:33 PM

First rule of being a Charmie: Nothing is Armie’s fault. Second rule of being a Charmie: Never be accountable.

by Anonymousreply 186April 4, 2021 8:53 PM

Lol. Simpi just put us on blast for calling out her fake ss bullshit.

LMAO the bitch is pressed

Simpi gurl - let it go. We're just not that into you.

by Anonymousreply 187April 5, 2021 7:47 PM

Now the bitch is posting her fan mail including a DM saying :

"You are an angel. That's from Armie. The truth always matters."

Wow if Armie is actually in contact with the people harassing his accuser then that would be 'interesting' in a court case goes forward.

by Anonymousreply 188April 5, 2021 7:53 PM

From Armie?? I don't believe her. Don't think Armie is in contact with his "fans"

by Anonymousreply 189April 5, 2021 11:19 PM

Who or what is a “Simpi”?

by Anonymousreply 190April 6, 2021 5:22 AM

R190 She's Queen of the delusional Charmie loons and she just put me on blast on Twitter LMAO

Simpi gurl, why so pressed bitch?

by Anonymousreply 191April 6, 2021 12:04 PM

Not gonna lie, seeing charmies suffer has been a highlight of these past months. The only thing better is seeing AH becoming a spectacular failure in less then a year. Can he go even lower, let's see lol, i'm sure he can.

by Anonymousreply 192April 6, 2021 12:44 PM

I think he has further to fall. There are more details to come out regarding this LAPD investigation, I'm sure of it.

by Anonymousreply 193April 6, 2021 12:56 PM

So I guess Simpi is Hammer's undoing?

by Anonymousreply 194April 6, 2021 2:04 PM

R192 Truly, especially given how incredibly toxic they are. They - and shippers in general - love to pretend it's just a harmless little fanfic thing, but the lengths they do to and the cult-like mentality is shocking.

by Anonymousreply 195April 6, 2021 3:29 PM

R188 pls link where she says he's in contact because it's obvious she's his little foot soldier.

by Anonymousreply 196April 7, 2021 4:39 AM

This is the studio that cast Bill Cosby as the Devil and gave a prime-time TV show to Werner Von Braun.

by Anonymousreply 197April 7, 2021 5:05 AM

As long as he isn’t raping or devouring anybody in the film it shouldn’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 198April 7, 2021 5:19 AM

Poor Armie. Seriously, fucking boo hoo.

Meanwhile, this is the kind of stuff that women who speak out have to endure from his deranged cult of a fanbase.

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by Anonymousreply 199April 7, 2021 8:49 AM

R199 his stans are fucking deranged.

by Anonymousreply 200April 7, 2021 9:28 AM

“You fucking lie liar!” Jesus, those Armie fans are beyond fucked up, not to mention barely literate. They should be locked up along with Armiebal Lecter.

by Anonymousreply 201April 7, 2021 9:37 AM

For Fuck's sake! Why don't they just release this movie already?

I'm going to hate torrent download it when it eventually does come out and I'm going to share to other torrenters at full upload bandwidth speed until it has a ratio at least 1000 and probably more.

by Anonymousreply 202April 7, 2021 9:40 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 203April 7, 2021 9:43 AM

Stick it straight to streaming now.

Don't inflict this garbage onto a paying public. Apart from Armie Hammer it also stars that terrible Wonder Woman actress.

It also stars an actress called Emma Mackey. I saw her in a French film a few weeks ago called Eiffel and the was fucking terrible beyond belief. She is clearly somebody who is getting work by sucking cock and lying on her back. Just awful, awful, awful.

by Anonymousreply 204April 7, 2021 9:45 AM

R203 "basically sweet man, who also likes to hurt women."

by Anonymousreply 205April 7, 2021 9:46 AM

R205 I think sweet is often a euphemism for stupid?

by Anonymousreply 206April 7, 2021 9:54 AM

In a story completely unrelated to J's on-going harassment

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by Anonymousreply 207April 7, 2021 10:04 AM

I never really got where the 'Jess is crazy' narrative came from because she seems like the most intelligent and sane one to me. I've seen the loonies call her 'Crazy J'... Did the 'crazy chick' thing come from Armie?

by Anonymousreply 208April 7, 2021 10:09 AM

R208 it's the easiest way. Liz is crazy, dru is crazy, effie is def crazy, Jess is crazy....and Armie is a poor innocent victim of these crazy women. To answer your question, it came from his stans.

by Anonymousreply 209April 7, 2021 10:15 AM

I still can't get over the idea that a 34 year old man set up a finsta to 'brag about his bitches'.

by Anonymousreply 210April 7, 2021 10:19 AM

R204 Emma was quite good in Sex education

by Anonymousreply 211April 7, 2021 10:33 AM

R190 Simpi is the head of Armie Hammer’s fanbase. They are called Charmies and are notorious for the swarming behaviour described in R199’s post.

by Anonymousreply 212April 7, 2021 12:13 PM

R199 Jesus, I never realised it was that bad. So, is the thinking this is simpi and her loons, or people actually directly linked to Armie or Armie himself harassing her? Effie's post at R207 would seem to suggest the latter?

by Anonymousreply 213April 7, 2021 2:13 PM

I think Simpi has some bunnies on her boiler.

by Anonymousreply 214April 7, 2021 2:18 PM

R213 Simpi&co, certainly that hammerdrama crowd, a few crazies on lsa, Debbie&her twitter crowd, ig weirdos... looking at it, he has more and more die hard defenders lol.

by Anonymousreply 215April 7, 2021 2:51 PM

R215 Someone needs to 4chan those cunts

by Anonymousreply 216April 7, 2021 2:57 PM

Soooooo

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by Anonymousreply 217April 7, 2021 6:43 PM

His team and stans can indulge in all the dirty scumbag tactics they like. But nothing will restore Harmie's reputation or career. Aside from his few deranged fans, he is loathed by most women, and this sort of attacking the victims only makes it worse. Fuck off and die already, Armie.

by Anonymousreply 218April 7, 2021 6:58 PM

Well, whoever's behind it, they need to get doxxed themselves.

by Anonymousreply 219April 7, 2021 7:19 PM

R218 It seems a bit far fetched as a strategy.

If he sues her for A but doesn't sue her for B then we can assume B is true?

I think its bs unless the Charmies really are running his defence lol.

They say dumb shit like 'I sent in fake things to DM and they published them' Everything is FAKE and LIES!!!

by Anonymousreply 220April 7, 2021 7:20 PM

Mañana bitches!

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by Anonymousreply 221April 7, 2021 11:17 PM

Effie has already been pray to catfishing with HOR and Milk. I wonder if it's the Information about some of his costars like Gal. She should only relay her own accounts though. If she's claiming that anyone else's experiences are her own than she'll probably be caught for lying. They've been trying to set her up since day one.

by Anonymousreply 222April 8, 2021 2:05 AM

Suing Effie for releasing some random piece of information when she's accused him of rape would be SUCH a bad look. And we're really taking CDAN seriously now? Didn't enty post something a while ago about another grand plan to discredit Effie that never transpired?

by Anonymousreply 223April 8, 2021 6:27 AM

He posts a lot of shit. The only accurate stuff he posts is always after the fact. Like two celebrities will be photographed together and the next day he's posting a blind about them hanging out. And yet still idiots read that shit and post it here like it's proof.

by Anonymousreply 224April 8, 2021 10:08 AM

Liz has done a (very bland) AMA so that'll give chanel and the crazies something to pick apart for weeks. She spoils them really!

by Anonymousreply 225April 8, 2021 1:59 PM

Charmies are really being spoiled with their choices of women to harass, obsess over, degrade, and conspire about every week - Liz, Jess, Effie, Paige, LRD (now that she’s back in the picture), etc. They can just keep rotating who they hate and obsess over the most any given day and never get bored. Meanwhile Armie and Timmy will keep fucking whoever they want while not giving a second thought to their most devoted followers frothing at the mouth.

by Anonymousreply 226April 8, 2021 2:06 PM

Their hated for LRD is really puzzling, given how little many of them actually care about Chalamet. Really does show shipping is just an excuse for self-loathing women to be misogynists.

by Anonymousreply 227April 8, 2021 2:11 PM

Agreed, and what makes it worse is when their daughters see this and grow up to think that this is a normal way to act.

by Anonymousreply 228April 8, 2021 2:48 PM

Poor Charmies. All that’s left of their blogs is being delusional about Armie’s ~comeback and ranting about Lilothee and the evil PR everywhere. I get being a 12 year old fangirl but these women are all over 30 and some much older. How long will they keep it up? It’s going on 3 years. At least until a couple of months ago no one knew what a sick fuck Armie is, he still had a career and they were still getting content but now? On the bright-side, everyone can see what utter nutcases they are if they didn’t already. Every Timmy stan is either cropping Armie out of pics or just avoiding posting Timmy content with him altogether. That’s what’s left of their ship. But sure, LRD and Timmy's team are the devil who's ruining Timmy's career. Just imagine if Timmy said just one word of support about Armie. He'd be crucified by the media, fans and everyone else. But I'm sure he'll announce he's gay and married to Armie then Armie will sue all these women for billions and his career will be thriving again any day now. Any day now. lmao these delulus have long ago lost contact with reality.

by Anonymousreply 229April 8, 2021 3:10 PM

R229 it's so fun to watch tho.

by Anonymousreply 230April 8, 2021 3:18 PM

r229 that fact that they genuinely think LRD is worse than Armie for Timmy’s image/career shows how absolutely insane they are.

by Anonymousreply 231April 8, 2021 3:52 PM

Everyone is doing AMAs these days. Our Bulgarian Queen was a cultural reset.

I think Armie should do one - off his tits on DMT.

He's been silenced for tooooo long.

by Anonymousreply 232April 8, 2021 3:58 PM

R232 We could ask him where the hook goes

by Anonymousreply 233April 8, 2021 3:58 PM

The Charmies would scream at the PR plot even if Chalamet called a press conference one day in which she announces that he has moved in with Amla and that she is expecting a child from him LLOLLL ..... anyway they are furious just because he doesn't lends to their narrative.

by Anonymousreply 234April 8, 2021 4:05 PM

Not AMLA but Lily Rose Depp ...

by Anonymousreply 235April 8, 2021 4:07 PM

R234 I'm waiting for them to shout 'stunt dick' when Effie finally releases the sex tape.

Or claim to see the shadow of a gun pointed at his head...

by Anonymousreply 236April 8, 2021 4:09 PM

R234 They did exactly that with their previous ship. Woman got pregnant, they insisted she was faking it, that the guy was going to come out and announce it was all a stunt. Then the kid was born. Someone actually went to the courthouse or whatever it is to get a copy of the birth certificate because they were so convinced it wasn't his - and sure enough his name was on it. And then he started being photographed with the baby - so they claimed he was actually carrying around a doll, and then when video showed the kid was moving, they claimed stunt baby. They're beyond insane.

by Anonymousreply 237April 8, 2021 4:12 PM

The amazing thing is that these shippers are mostly middle-aged women. They throw up sailor insults against Depp or anyone else who comes close to their avatar. Some of them are certainly mothers of families. What if others insult their daughters like they insult Lily? I've always said it: Charmie deserves a psycho-pathology study.

by Anonymousreply 238April 8, 2021 4:22 PM

Does everybody have their extra large popcorn tubs ready for the Charmie over-analysis of any statement Gloria Allred makes? I must say thank you once again to HH Lawyers Ltd for insisting that Allred is only allegedly Effie’s lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 239April 8, 2021 6:14 PM

Get the popcorn now.

Debbie Donut is FEWMIN!!!!

Imagine complaining about a circus when you're the biggest clown on Twitter.

Its ok for an army of her loon mates to tweet 24/7 but its an UNFAIR TRIAL for Effie to have a lawyer who talks on her behalf once in a while.

Get rekt Debbie you plum.

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by Anonymousreply 240April 8, 2021 7:23 PM

“Its disscusting”, is it? These illiterate loons need shot.

by Anonymousreply 241April 8, 2021 9:29 PM

Director of Crisis discussed the 'Armie hammer of it all' on Brett Easton Ellis' podcast - Patreon goddamn it,

Judging by this write up I'm guessing he won't be keen to work the douche again

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by Anonymousreply 242April 8, 2021 9:43 PM

[quote]And I’m like, I don’t even really know what ‘trending on Twitter’ means

And with one sentence I now don't believe a work Jarecki has to say. That's such a ludicrous lie - only actual luddites don't know what trending means - that makes me think he at least had suspicions if not outright knowledge about Hammer well in advance.

by Anonymousreply 243April 8, 2021 10:13 PM

R243 I think our Queen has put him on blast before but I expect he'll get another round or two at some point

by Anonymousreply 244April 8, 2021 10:29 PM

Jarecki has a bad rep himself. Look up his ties to Tyson and James Toback. They are all 'friendly'. And the El Turki producer guy. Calling it a professional relationship only ... Tyson and Toback being accused/convicted of rape was no problem.

by Anonymousreply 245April 8, 2021 10:40 PM

R245 I think it was when he was filming Crisis that Armie tried to persuade Dom to come for a 48 hour period of sex slavery having ghosted her the last time he got her to fly to LA.

No way he didn't talk about his weird shit with the creep squad.

by Anonymousreply 246April 8, 2021 11:06 PM

So did anybody get a chance to listen to the podcast with Allred?

by Anonymousreply 247April 9, 2021 3:12 AM

Lmao at Jarecki throwing Hammer under the bus (to save face for his shit movie, but still).

‘Suddenly, even media appearances for actors who didn’t appear on screen with Hammer began to fall apart, Jarecki said. The director said one network was eager to have Oldman appear for an interview, but insisted, “he’s got to answer two questions about the Armie Hammer” situation. “I think the only time they ever met each other was at a dinner I had to kick off the movie”'

‘he says his relationship with the actor was strictly professional. (Jarecki describes Hammer as a pleasant and hard-working collaborator, and adds that he “is not bad in the movie.”)’

“he’s only in a small portion of it anyway,” Jarecki says. “He’s in 40 minutes of a 120-minute movie.”

He really is toast.

by Anonymousreply 248April 9, 2021 4:42 AM

Nobody but the woke busybody press really gives a fuck about Armie Hammer. Why are they keeping this nonsense alive? Who cares if straight guys are pervs, aren't all of them pervs?

by Anonymousreply 249April 9, 2021 5:16 AM

R249 Sure, but not all of them are rapists.

Also, as Anne Helen Peterson pointed out, the industry tried to make him happen for 10+ years. Now that he's finally done something newsworthy, they're not going to miss the opportunity to perpetuate the obsession.

by Anonymousreply 250April 9, 2021 6:36 AM

R248 Simpi is bent out of shape with indignant rage that Jarecki isn't praising Armie to Hugh heaven. Seems she met him know in no uncertain terms that it was ARMIE STANS that have supported and promoted that film the most! Tsk tsk. All that work and so unappreciated

by Anonymousreply 251April 9, 2021 9:14 AM

The popcorn did come in handy after all. Charmies have managed to absolutely misunderstand what Gloria Allred was saying. Rainbowdazh already has posted her thesis about it. In the meantime, a helpful samaritan tries to set them on the right path. Will it work? Stay tuned...

This is Exciting!

by Anonymousreply 252April 9, 2021 3:09 PM

In all the excitement! I posted in the wrong hole

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by Anonymousreply 253April 9, 2021 3:10 PM

I am dazzled by rainbow's brilliance as a legal scholar.

"gloria allred is the worst example of a lawyer. she is every cliche of a lawyer that makes ppl think they are all shit. she’s lazy, money and media hungry, has a shocking lack of ethics, and she cloaks it all in rah rah performative feminism"

by Anonymousreply 254April 9, 2021 3:15 PM

R253 lol that jael chick is trying hard

by Anonymousreply 255April 9, 2021 3:17 PM

R255 She's the dumbass who blocked me from the hammerdrama reddit for quoting Armie's own words about his tit injury.

by Anonymousreply 256April 9, 2021 3:19 PM

R253 In all the excitement! I posted in the wrong hole

Armie's team has just copied that down to form the defence against claims of 'surprise anal'

by Anonymousreply 257April 9, 2021 3:25 PM

R256 oh yeah they are very invested over there. The church of Saint Armie lol

by Anonymousreply 258April 9, 2021 3:26 PM

I mean what else can you except from Charmies? This is the same group of people who think Armie would rather go down for rape than admit he’s gay. We’re dealing with a cult being kept together by Qanon level conspiracies.

by Anonymousreply 259April 9, 2021 3:34 PM

Eta: they think his own lawyer is in on it by making a statement that makes it sound like he and Effie has a sexual relationship. Helping him cover up his sexuality and his relationship with Timmy by giving credence to the rape allegations. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 260April 9, 2021 3:37 PM

R260 And its not like that slut Timmy will wait for him on the outside,

by Anonymousreply 261April 9, 2021 3:39 PM

Why would Timmy wait for Armie? Have you seen Armie lately? My lord. He is not pretty.

by Anonymousreply 262April 9, 2021 5:01 PM

He moved on to Franco. Says Enty. 🙂🤦

by Anonymousreply 263April 9, 2021 5:48 PM

Ewww.

by Anonymousreply 264April 9, 2021 5:50 PM

R262 He's pretty enough

by Anonymousreply 265April 9, 2021 6:00 PM

R263 Armie or Timmy moved on?

by Anonymousreply 266April 9, 2021 6:14 PM

Timmy. It's a Blind Gossip from 2019 though.

by Anonymousreply 267April 9, 2021 10:33 PM

He’s been hiding —and keeping his big trap shut on social media!!! that has to be the biggest shocker for me in all this like who would've thought he'll ever stfu— for over 4 months. I think it's the first time in his life he’s genuinely ashamed of himself lmao.

by Anonymousreply 268April 10, 2021 1:45 PM

Or someone took his phone away

by Anonymousreply 269April 10, 2021 1:52 PM

R269 i mean i doubt he pays for anything himself, including his phone bill.

by Anonymousreply 270April 10, 2021 1:57 PM

LOL you're telling me you think he's been without a phone for 4 months? Nah, if no one took his phone away after his Stan Lee shit and the toe sucking video, no one's gonna do it now. Plus the location on his ig account was changed to Indonesia a month or two ago now it's back to US so he's obviously still using his phone.

by Anonymousreply 271April 10, 2021 2:04 PM

R271 you saying he went to Bali a month ago lol...and is in US now lol? But yeah ofc he has a phone...how would he find new girls to fuck otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 272April 10, 2021 2:10 PM

Fuck knows, my guess is he was using a VPN. And did you forget he's dating a "nice girl" now? lmao

by Anonymousreply 273April 10, 2021 2:15 PM

R273 lol.... She could be "nice" idk, but for sure she's doing things the way he wants (you know the only things he brought to the Cayman were like some clothes and his bdsm suitcase).

by Anonymousreply 274April 10, 2021 2:24 PM

R264 and she for sure isn't the only one he fucks right now.

by Anonymousreply 275April 10, 2021 2:25 PM

Is there a new thread?

by Anonymousreply 276April 11, 2021 10:01 PM

Kid Cudi was on SNL last night and Timmy showed up as part of it, further cementing their bromance. Charmies are having a really bad time lately.

by Anonymousreply 277April 11, 2021 11:03 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if any of them switched to this new ship now: Cudi / Timmy. Not to admit that T is surrounded by women (LilyRose or anyone else).

by Anonymousreply 278April 12, 2021 8:33 AM

Singing about flutes. 😅

by Anonymousreply 279April 12, 2021 10:02 AM

Why the hell would a thread like this be greyed out and the photo removed? I do not understand that criteria at all if someone could please explain it to me?

by Anonymousreply 280April 12, 2021 10:14 AM

R278 I doubt it, a lot of them are racists. They can't stand how Timmy likes rap and try to erase it from existence, and go absolutely batshit when he hangs out with black guys.

R280 Hammer/Chalamet aren't popular topics with a lot of users on this site in general, thanks to the invading fraus who post obsessively about them here. On top of this, the OP of these threads keeps creating new threads needlessly before old threads are filled up. So these two things annoy a lot of posters who F&F the original post, leading to it being greyed out.

by Anonymousreply 281April 12, 2021 12:26 PM

Oooof! Aciman can’t even bring himself to say Armie’s name now.

by Anonymousreply 282April 12, 2021 12:52 PM

If you're gonna mention it at least drop the link about the Aciman thing. Don't expect everyone else to know what you're talking about.

Tho I'm not surprised people want nothing to do with him now. His scandal is so nasty with the cannibal thing and the weird fetishes he makes other HW abusers look like choir boys.

by Anonymousreply 283April 12, 2021 1:21 PM

R282 He didn't call him by his name

by Anonymousreply 284April 12, 2021 1:33 PM

So far there's Aciman, Evangeline Lilly, Lily Collins, Jarecki (anyone else?) who either make snide remarks or just pretended he doesn't exist but I'm sure more will do the same. Man, he really threw his life away. He could've divorced and indulged into his sick shit in complete privacy. No one would've known, he'd still have a career and enough dignity to be able to show his face in public. Instead he flaunted it like the narcissistic idiot he is. No fucking way this man is right in the head. I'm surprised he managed to keep it together (read hid it) as long as he did. It was only a matter of time until he imploded.

by Anonymousreply 285April 12, 2021 2:19 PM

*made

by Anonymousreply 286April 12, 2021 2:22 PM

Aciman was featured on an Italian literary show - doing press for his new book. Talked about the success of CMBYN and the success it gave to the actors. The bit is about two-third s of the way through. He names Timothee but the other actor is .. «altr’attore» . Literally the other actor. He describes him as having a sack of problems lololololololol

R283 Since you asked so prettily, here you go.

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by Anonymousreply 287April 12, 2021 2:44 PM

[quote]I posted in the wrong hole

Pics please.

by Anonymousreply 288April 12, 2021 2:49 PM

Well Aciman knows there won’t be a CMBYN sequel for sure now because of Armie. Not only that but he’s ruined the movie for a lot of people. No wonder he shaded him, Armie's bad for business.

by Anonymousreply 289April 12, 2021 4:51 PM

Aciman even met Effie. 🙂 On a book signing.

by Anonymousreply 290April 13, 2021 12:58 PM

“The other actor”... the BURN! That comment is like death for a narcissist like Armie

by Anonymousreply 291April 13, 2021 1:50 PM

R291 that's nothing compared to how Jarecki threw him under the bus saying he didn't really know him except professionally and that Oldman only met him the one time at the cast dinner. Lmao. People who claim he went to Saudi Arabia as a favor for the producer are fooling themselves. That little Saudi trip is probably responsible for him even being employed on the show. He's toxic now.

by Anonymousreply 292April 14, 2021 12:38 AM

R291 no lies detected. Love how he said everyone got success from the film except Armie. Lmao. He hates Timothee Chalamet.

by Anonymousreply 293April 14, 2021 12:39 AM

Listen, studios invest tens of millions of dollars, directors put years of work into a project and actors want their work to be seen by as many people as possible. It’s a collective effort ultimately done for either prestige (awards) or money (box office). And then one dumb bitch like Armie comes along and ruins it for all of them. Who can blame Jarecki for throwing Armie under the bus? Sure, he didn’t direct an Oscar contender or a box office smash but the movie should’ve been able to be judged on its own, not crippled from the start by the gross sexual scandal of small player like Armie. I mean a lot of critics refused to even review it.

That’s exactly why Armie will never work again as an actor. Ever. Hollywood doesn’t give two shits that he’s a sick fuck, a bunch of them are lbr but he cost them money (without even taking DOTN into account here) and he showed very serious problems with his judgment (finsta, dm-ing all kinds of disturbing crap from his work account etc). He can’t be trusted and he’s uninsurable.

Though if his scandal were limited to rape/abuse he probably would still have a publicist and agency and would be able to come back from it with time. i’s the cannibal and the repulsive kinks part that finished him. Hollywood is an industry that lives and dies on image, something that Armie, being the pea brain narcissist he is, never understood. In the end he ~died by his own hand. He has no one to blame for what happened to him but himself.

by Anonymousreply 294April 14, 2021 1:31 PM

Nobody is going to complain when that shitty [italic]Lone Ranger[/italic] movie gets a warning label from Disney+. It’s part of the reason we’ve gotten barely anything from them in live-action since then other than remake after remake along with some poorly promoted mid-budget movies that came and went with very little fanfare.

by Anonymousreply 295April 14, 2021 2:14 PM

I'm expecting more and more Armie erasure. You know the media won't want to mention cannibal predator Armie Hammer in the same sentence with their golden boy Chalamet. Poor Armie's ego.

Lame article but this did make be LOL:

[quote](We’re not going to talk about his co-star because we’re all about the feel-good news here.)

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by Anonymousreply 296April 14, 2021 2:42 PM

Erase them both. He’s a hypocrite for condemning Woody Allen when he built his career on a movie how about some greaseball fucking a teenage boy who is the exact same age as the character played by Mariel Hemingway in [italic]Manhattan.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 297April 14, 2021 2:45 PM

Chalamet at least has talent and in 3 years already made some connections in Hollywood. Something our idiot extraordinaire didn't manage in his 13-14 years long career. Hollywood is a bunch of hypocrites so Chalamet is just one of many.

by Anonymousreply 298April 14, 2021 2:55 PM

[quote]Who can blame Jarecki for throwing Armie under the bus?

Actually I think it's fair to, as there's quite a bit to suggest he would've been aware of some of Hammer's issues, and yet still hired him. Reap what you sow.

by Anonymousreply 299April 14, 2021 3:12 PM

So The Late Night Show with James Corden removed all their videos with Armie from youtube.....wow.

by Anonymousreply 300April 14, 2021 5:07 PM

R300 Can they keep going and remove all the ones with Corden in them?

by Anonymousreply 301April 14, 2021 5:15 PM

R301 Things are bad if a big fat sociopathic cunt like James Cordon thinks you're beyond the pale.

by Anonymousreply 302April 14, 2021 5:22 PM

So why now?

Is something about to come out?

by Anonymousreply 303April 14, 2021 5:44 PM

The episode he was on in October? Is this normal procedure for these kinds of shows when someone is accused of a serious crime or is there more to it?

by Anonymousreply 304April 14, 2021 5:52 PM

The show he did with Kimmell is still up on Youtube though. Hmm.. verra interesting...

by Anonymousreply 305April 14, 2021 7:26 PM

Speaking of Disney (OP), they've just removed his episode of Bear Grylls from D+ 💀

by Anonymousreply 306April 19, 2021 6:03 AM

So I've got my confirmation that nutjob Effie is stalking these threads. She's so pathetic holy shit, how long is she going to keep obsessing over this loser who supposedly raped her (yet she went back like a bitch in heat begging for more)? Like girl, he'd done with you. You destroyed his life cause he didn't want you to be his "fuckmeat" anymore lmao. Now get some dignity and move on, stop stalking. Damn, idk who's the biggest loser, her or Armie.

by Anonymousreply 307April 19, 2021 12:00 PM

R306 That was done a while back. We missed you at the party. There was champagne and sparkly things.

by Anonymousreply 308April 19, 2021 4:23 PM

R307 Good morning, Charmie!

by Anonymousreply 309April 19, 2021 5:07 PM

Charmie lmfao? Ewwwww. Not even a fan of Chalamet but I wouldn’t wish a gross loser creep like Armie on him in a million years. Try again, Effie @ r309!

by Anonymousreply 310April 19, 2021 5:28 PM

Oh dear. Is it me who you think is Effie? You’ll have to reconfirm your confirmation. Was it simpi who confirmed it for you? There’s your problem.

by Anonymousreply 311April 19, 2021 6:18 PM

LOL alright dumbfuck @ r311, you need to take your tongue out of Effie’s prolapsed asshole for a sec and stop lumping people together like a mentally challenged sheep calling everyone you don’t like a chaaarmiiiie. FYI moron, I posted the James Corden stuff that I PERSONALLY noticed, no one talked about it anywhere before I did here. The next day your nutcase queen made a story about it, thanking Corden for removing the videos with Armie. I noticed they were removed over a MONTH ago so she could’ve thanked him anytime and yet she ONLY thanked him after I posted about it HERE. Now stfu and go lick Effie’s hole some more lmao.

by Anonymousreply 312April 19, 2021 7:02 PM

Effies to the left of R312, Effies to the right, but there R312 is, stuck in the middle with ALL THE EFFIES 👯‍♀️

by Anonymousreply 313April 19, 2021 7:10 PM

Whatever you say, Effie 🤪

by Anonymousreply 314April 19, 2021 7:19 PM

Oh Dear. Simpi is playing CSI Jakarta again.

Debbie doughnut copying in the Daily Mail with the latest 'revelation'

Its the full circus

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by Anonymousreply 315April 19, 2021 7:56 PM

Popcorn ready to be popped for the inevitable realization that CSI Jakarta’s crime lab are working off of images which were copied and saved many times over and technical mumbo jumbo had already been embedded.

by Anonymousreply 316April 19, 2021 8:05 PM

Fingers crossed Jess is so pissed off she releases the actual voicemails.

Cue Simpi with a recording of CMBYN and a tape splicing deck

by Anonymousreply 317April 19, 2021 8:11 PM

R315 What does she even think she's proving there?

by Anonymousreply 318April 19, 2021 9:21 PM

R318 That the Twitter loons are even dumber than the Tumblr Charmies?

by Anonymousreply 319April 19, 2021 9:31 PM

Lol CSI Jakarta is the funniest thing i saw today. They really think Armie fucking Hammer is a victim of a conspiracy of women. Dead.

by Anonymousreply 320April 20, 2021 5:52 AM

Russian kitty is doing an AMA and says she will answer ALL questions about Armie for the next 24 hours

Get it there!!!

by Anonymousreply 321April 20, 2021 11:30 AM

* Get IN there

by Anonymousreply 322April 20, 2021 11:32 AM

Since Armie was let go from every single project he had lined up the interest in his scandal dropped to zero. Other than his deranged stans and the idiotic Charmies who refuse to see what a disgusting sack of shit he is no one’s talking about it anymore so good luck with AMAs about him. But I'm sure they'll be sending questions to themselves. Both Effie and Dominstaya are pathetic at this point dragging this on and on. Let it go bruh, n1currrrr.

by Anonymousreply 323April 20, 2021 11:43 AM

R323 No-one is going to be asking questions about his career LMAO

by Anonymousreply 324April 20, 2021 11:49 AM

Well duh, no one cared about his career when he still had one lmao. The point is no one is going to ask questions period (except the ones they send themselves) because like himself his scandal is done too. Unless a new woman pops up with new allegations or the police finds some CP on him, no one cares about him and his scandal anymore. He's THAT irrelevant. These two attention whores will be doing AMAs about him till kingdom come lmao.

by Anonymousreply 325April 20, 2021 12:01 PM

R325 Your advice to ignore him would be more convincing if you weren't here talking about him.

I certainly do have questions so imma drop out now to hit my girl Dom up

by Anonymousreply 326April 20, 2021 12:03 PM

It’s not an advice, why would I care what you do? I just thought it was funny how you think people still care enough to run to someone who never even met him to ask questions about him when they really don’t. Yeah, I’m following this out of pure boredom and because I want to see what else the LAPD finds on him (I'm not buying Effie's rape story so) but outside of his stans, Charmies and some haters people aren’t interested anymore. Even these threads go days without new replies now.

by Anonymousreply 327April 20, 2021 12:20 PM

His defenders are making asses of themselves. He’s not behaving like someone who is innocent…hiding, talking only through his lawyer, his camp never denying anything except for the rape when they had countless chances to do so, none of his peers, friends or acquaintances speaking up for him etc.

I know it’s hard to accept you’ve supported someone who turned out to be a cheating, lying predator with really fucked up kinks and a shit father but come on, how long are they going to keep pretending he’s the innocent victim of a smear campaign? Poor wittle Armie...ha! It’s okay, they can admit they were wrong about him now, Hollywood already did.

by Anonymousreply 328April 20, 2021 1:11 PM

Lol. Even one of the Mods on the hammerdrama reddit has had enough of Simpi's CSI bullshit.

Its quite the shit show over there right now -

"She has been using very similar examples for months now, with the same ‘enhancements’ that show they are ‘fake’. It’s only now she’s bringing in an ‘expert’ that has 35 years experience. It’s funny that the preamble of said expert has the exact same semantics as all of Simpis pretend legalese....

At the end of the day, Simpi is a rabid Armie Stan, and all of this needs to be viewed from that perspective. It’s biased AF."

by Anonymousreply 329April 20, 2021 2:41 PM

I'm not following Dom so will welcome any juicy revelations via imgur 🍿

by Anonymousreply 330April 20, 2021 4:00 PM

R329 When your bullshit is so weak even your own cult members call you out on it.

Her reaction to this will be fun to see. She'll probably start doxxing her own followers, accusing them of being spies

by Anonymousreply 331April 20, 2021 5:42 PM

Simpi and her delulu brethren aka the Charmies are on their last legs. With Armie going belly up as an actor and now hiding like a little bitch they'll have no more content and go extinct. Not to mention they're more of a laughing stock with each passing day to regular people. Love to see it.

by Anonymousreply 332April 20, 2021 6:11 PM

Oh dear - He's art now...

"I was recently in a country with a crazy royal set up and it got really weird haha. Even for me and I'm basically Caligula"

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by Anonymousreply 333April 20, 2021 8:05 PM

Saudi Arabia? The things they make their whores do there are somewhat infamous.

by Anonymousreply 334April 20, 2021 8:12 PM

I hope she makes a whole series of these.

The Hammer museum can put on a special exhibition

by Anonymousreply 335April 20, 2021 8:12 PM

So the Hammer family continues their involvement in money laundering, just in an indirect way

by Anonymousreply 336April 20, 2021 8:14 PM

R334 Worse than tying them up in a public place and making their bodies free use?

Oh dear. Poor Simpi

by Anonymousreply 337April 20, 2021 8:15 PM

dibs on ribs

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by Anonymousreply 338April 20, 2021 8:19 PM

I can barely return a text and this motherfucker was texting and dm-img people all day long for years lol. He's exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 339April 20, 2021 8:21 PM

R337 Much, much worse. It's somewhat of an open secret that oil rich Arabs get off on hiring white models, "celebrities", influencers, etc to degrade them, even more than the stuff Armie is into. Google "dubai porta potties" if you've got a strong stomach.

by Anonymousreply 340April 20, 2021 8:23 PM

R340 I know. But that at least is consensual and paid.

Tying a woman up at night to be used by whoever passes by to prove her love for you is a special kind of warped.

by Anonymousreply 341April 20, 2021 8:27 PM

The fact that he was so boastful of how fucked up he is and thought every women he talked to would be up for his sick shit because of who he is...no words. Like he straight away went into crazy kink convos with everyone and this psychopath thought none of this would ever come out?

by Anonymousreply 342April 20, 2021 8:27 PM

This fucker was really out there asking women if they'd be prepared to live in cages.

by Anonymousreply 343April 20, 2021 8:27 PM

If it wasn't for his family history I'd be concerned he'd developed a brain tumour but nope just standard Hammer genes.

by Anonymousreply 344April 20, 2021 8:29 PM

Waiting for the Charmies to accuse Julia Morrison of being a crazy lying stalker, instead of, you know, one of like half a dozen women with the same horror story about this man.

by Anonymousreply 345April 20, 2021 8:29 PM

And yes, i am shaming him for his kinks. Sue me.

by Anonymousreply 346April 20, 2021 8:30 PM

I wonder if simpi will run an analysis on those

by Anonymousreply 347April 20, 2021 8:40 PM

R346 MeToo

by Anonymousreply 348April 20, 2021 8:40 PM

R347 Its acrylic on a light box.

Might have a job sticking that through her photocopier

by Anonymousreply 349April 20, 2021 8:41 PM

So from July-January he spent all of his time DMing women about his sick fantasies and also abusing the women he actually dated. And yet there are still people out there defending this POS and going after every woman who has come forward instead of hoping that this predator can never abuse another woman again. I'm grateful that at the very least his career and image as a celebrity is over and the chances of him ever working again are zero. But I do wish that charges will be pressed against this menace. He has no place living in society.

by Anonymousreply 350April 20, 2021 8:48 PM

R350 he was born a rich white man, he will always survive. If he'd been an ugly short poor immigrant...well things would be different.

by Anonymousreply 351April 20, 2021 8:55 PM

If this woman gets top dollar for her DMs then there might be a stampede of 'art works' coming.

by Anonymousreply 352April 20, 2021 10:51 PM

Knoedler gallery - LMAO

The bravo woman has a deep dive story too

His initial DM started 'I hope this finds you well'...

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by Anonymousreply 353April 20, 2021 11:28 PM

Every time I think that's it, I can't be more disgusted by him he goes and proves me wrong. This guy is a real Prince Charming, isn't he. Going from 'hey, how are you' to 'would you live in a cage' and 'do you like to get fucked in the ass' just like that. A Hollywood actor from his fricken official account in the #metoo era!!! Unreal.

by Anonymousreply 354April 21, 2021 12:18 AM

That comeback be looking further and further away. Poor charmies waiting for the defamation lawsuits lmao.

by Anonymousreply 355April 21, 2021 12:30 AM

I'm just upset my cat-fish game was so poor.

I could have used some coin right about now!!!

by Anonymousreply 356April 21, 2021 12:47 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if he'll end up eating someone in a few years. Now that he's free to do all the drugs and indulge in his sickest shit he'll lose all of his remaining mind so I'm guessing he might really go for it since cannibalism does seem to be a kink of his going by his dms. Dibs on the glutes and ribs for smoking? lol wtf. Yikes.

by Anonymousreply 357April 21, 2021 2:20 AM

He is a twisted lunatic. Deserves to be locked up but never will be. Why should he? He grew up with psychos who are free to live their life and prey on whoever they want.

Wonder what Tyler the artist got up to when Armie was allegedly servicing the Arab princes. Did he sell his ass too?

by Anonymousreply 358April 21, 2021 4:36 AM

What did Armie see as a child growing up that made him like this? This has Girl with a Dragon Tattoo vibes.

by Anonymousreply 359April 21, 2021 4:49 AM

Kink shaming aside, it sounds like he spent 24 hours of his day trying to arrange new sex slaves. This may be his sexuality. No chance he’s against non consensual sex if his main focus is violence.

by Anonymousreply 360April 21, 2021 4:53 AM

He eats people. How can you dismiss criticism of that as “kink shaming”?

by Anonymousreply 361April 21, 2021 5:12 AM

When are the culties going to give up on their laughable debunking shit, I wonder. I'm pretty sure you can't use "faked" DMs for NFTs.... Wouldn't that be some kind of art fraud? (- very Hammer family appropriate, if so.) As criminal as Effie going to the LAPD with "faked" DMs? The same "faked" DMs that his lawyer confirmed were real but pertained to consensual encounters?

by Anonymousreply 362April 21, 2021 5:19 AM

Are there any DMs out there where a woman actually tells him to fuck off?

by Anonymousreply 363April 21, 2021 7:34 AM

I don't know about the scandal, but was Armie Hammer part of the Nxivm Cult? All these reports make it look like he was either part of such a cult or in the process of creating one with these girls he corresponded on social media.

Like, is he someone who saw the NXIVM scandal unfolding and then think: I could pull that off and not get caught!

by Anonymousreply 364April 21, 2021 9:59 AM

The Wolf seems a better fit

by Anonymousreply 365April 21, 2021 10:18 AM

r358 yeah, he won't be thrown to jail unfortunately unless the LAPD finds CP on him but seeing guys like Chalamet, Cavill, even Ed Estwick (who he ghosted last summer because he's too much of a hot shit to reply to him) and others he's secretly and not so secretly jealous of have careers and success while he can't even show his face in public because everyone hates his guts now will be some good punishment. I'll take the fact that he's done professionally and socially. If these women hadn't spoken out he'd still have a career while inflicting his sick shit on them so at least we have that small victory.

by Anonymousreply 366April 21, 2021 10:20 AM

^in jail

by Anonymousreply 367April 21, 2021 10:22 AM

Casey Hammer has storied the Bravo lady's post.

What a family

by Anonymousreply 368April 21, 2021 10:28 AM

I agree with R365 about Hammer trying to emulate the Wolf (lol). Didn't Effie say that Hammer wanted his kittens to get wrist tattoos for him, Wolf-style?

by Anonymousreply 369April 21, 2021 10:51 AM

R366 oh yeah. He will be in virtual hell not being able to show his face and try to gain accolades. Also, would love to be a fly on the wall in some of the elite social circles in the Caymans. They already thought the Hammers were scum. Now they know for sure.

by Anonymousreply 370April 21, 2021 11:17 AM

Guy is such a loser. Where did he even find the time for all this sexting? I can barely find the time to reply to a text. He’s just a sad, frustrated little perv.

by Anonymousreply 371April 21, 2021 12:21 PM

Not Paige coming with the receipts.

What do you know Simpi's bullshit detector is..... bullshit

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by Anonymousreply 372April 21, 2021 12:25 PM

It was just a matter of time that Simpi’s debunking would be debunked. This is Fail #579864.

by Anonymousreply 373April 21, 2021 12:39 PM

Listen, it's never too late to admit you were wrong. I didn't believe Dominastya's DMs were real when they leaked last year because I couldn't imagine Armie being THAT dumb (even though he showed he's stupid af over and over). But his behavior since last summer and the fact that DM-ing sick stuff to random women, the "little whore", "fuck you in the ass", "sex slave" etc are clearly a recurring theme with him made me wake up and realize that yes, he's that fucked in the head, that stupid and yes, I was wrong.

And it's liberating, Simpi hon. You and your fellow charmies should try it instead of pathetically clinging onto your fantasies that Armie is a decent man instead of the sick fuck he obviously is.

by Anonymousreply 374April 21, 2021 12:52 PM

I love how their attempts to defend him and disprove the women just constantly results in the opposite.

by Anonymousreply 375April 21, 2021 1:03 PM

I must applaud Paige at how efficiently she debunked two of Simpi/Charmie gospels. 1. The DMs were not fake. 2. Paige did start sleeping with him in early September. One screen recording against 80+ posts from Simpi. Impressive.

by Anonymousreply 376April 21, 2021 1:10 PM

[quote]Guy is such a loser. Where did he even find the time for all this sexting? I can barely find the time to reply to a text. He’s just a sad, frustrated little perv.

Ikr. And he never even met up with most of these women he was sexting. He just sounds so pathetic and idk, lonely and frustrated? If he weren't such a nasty pos I would feel sorry for him.

by Anonymousreply 377April 21, 2021 1:11 PM

R377 I think he's one of those people who literally can't bear to be alone for more than 5 minutes.

So he has to have multiple women on-line to keep him company 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 378April 21, 2021 2:13 PM

R378 there are a lot of people with attachment issues in the world. Not everyone of them becomes a creep.

by Anonymousreply 379April 21, 2021 2:25 PM

R379 You thought I was defending him?

by Anonymousreply 380April 21, 2021 2:29 PM

R380 no

by Anonymousreply 381April 21, 2021 2:33 PM

Is this what kinksters mean by a 'switch' ?

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by Anonymousreply 382April 21, 2021 3:16 PM

R382 too fucking funny.

And well done to Simpi the simpleton. Without her meddling we wouldn’t know that the DMs are in fact real and that she is crazy enough to doctor evidence. What does she hope that will do?

by Anonymousreply 383April 21, 2021 6:15 PM

R382 So it's gone now. Our Bulgarian Queen said :

The abuser: "Would you live in a cage? Let me take care of everything."

The victims: "Why don't we take care of everything and then you live in a cage"

by Anonymousreply 384April 21, 2021 6:58 PM

Julia did an interview with TheDaily Beast where she talks a bit more about her experience and why she’s doing this. I love the part where she says people ask why she’s doing this to him but he did this to himself. Spot on.

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by Anonymousreply 385April 22, 2021 2:57 AM

I said it before I passed that a re-make of my classic 1978 adaptation would all end in tears for everyone involved.

by Anonymousreply 386April 22, 2021 7:15 AM

Wow. Debbie so close to working it out...

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by Anonymousreply 387April 22, 2021 3:44 PM

R387 I can feel the cogs in her brain struggling to turn. I know you can, I know you can, I know you can.

by Anonymousreply 388April 22, 2021 4:55 PM

In other news, he’s down to 1.5m followers on IG. Lost over 100k since this thing started. Love to see it.

by Anonymousreply 389April 22, 2021 6:04 PM

Only 100k? While Hollywood is cancelling him, social media doesn't apparently.

by Anonymousreply 390April 22, 2021 6:06 PM

R390 I follow him and I tipped off the Daily Beast journo lol.

We're not all fans

by Anonymousreply 391April 22, 2021 6:07 PM

R391 LMAO! Legend.

I follow him too.

Most people don’t bother unfollowing.

by Anonymousreply 392April 22, 2021 10:07 PM

I think some posters forget how normal people use social media. Most people can't even remember who they follow, so when some scandal happens they don't necessarily immediately rush to unfollow, and because he's been so quiet they don't see his posts pop up on their feed. The real test will be the next time he does post, and if that results in a large number of people realising that they still are following him, and then correcting that.

by Anonymousreply 393April 22, 2021 10:36 PM

More art...

Schlock horror goodness LMFAO

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by Anonymousreply 394April 22, 2021 11:16 PM

Julia Morrison monetizing her 'disturbing exchange' with Armie will sure help dispel certain prejudices against women who speak out against sexual abuse ...like, you know, that they're just out for money or attention.

[quote]I started looking into what the hell an NFT was and once I learned that it was a way to authenticate something, I said I want to make artwork out of my text messages with Armie Hammer,” Morrison explained. “The NFT is the new notary. What I’ve done is, anyone who questions the authenticity of these exchanges, I have now created light boxes with them, and I minted them as NFTs in order to say that these things are authentic and real. It’s like a checkmate.

So her goal is to prove that the messages are real, as in sent from Armie's real account to her account, not photoshopped, and so on? I don't think this is how NFTs work. From what I understand, NFTs are simply a way of granting someone ownership of a digital object - ANY digital object. You could create photoshopped messages that look like they were sent by Armie Hammer, and sell them as NFTs (I'm not saying that she did).

by Anonymousreply 395April 22, 2021 11:56 PM

I highly doubt an artist would fake messages and sell them.

It would be career suicide. We've already had one of those.

by Anonymousreply 396April 23, 2021 12:05 AM

R395 Yeah she's totally misunderstood or misrepresented what NFTs are - be interesting to know which.

And all of that is said believing the DMs are real.

by Anonymousreply 397April 23, 2021 12:23 AM

This quote from the article is more accurate

“There’s not a single word that’s been exchanged that’s been deleted,” she added. “These are authentic real exchanges and by creating artworks out of them and using the NFT process, I’m putting them on the blockchain forever and ever to cement them as a token of the times we are living in.”

by Anonymousreply 398April 23, 2021 12:30 AM

R398 Yea it’s powerful and shows the DMs are real. Simpi conveniently hasn’t discredited these or the screen recording Paige produced.

by Anonymousreply 399April 23, 2021 5:24 AM

[quote]I said it before I passed that a re-make of my classic 1978 adaptation would all end in tears for everyone involved. —B.D.

I lived through this so you didn't have to.

by Anonymousreply 400April 23, 2021 5:30 AM

R399 Oh no! Simpi has tried to debunk the video. See her instastory.

Her 'expert' said the mere fact that Paige put a video was an admission (of guilt)

So much expertise lol.

by Anonymousreply 401April 23, 2021 8:55 AM

Lmao R401 She's beyond pathetic. The culties are so pressed right now... Wonder why? : )

by Anonymousreply 402April 23, 2021 10:18 AM

R402 "Michael" is borderline hysterical.

He's been ranting about FEMALE JUDASES for hours

by Anonymousreply 403April 23, 2021 10:40 AM

The loons are back on DL in another thread - instant 10 vote comments as usual.

Batten down the hatches...

by Anonymousreply 404April 23, 2021 10:50 AM

I noticed that, R404 - hysterical blaring with the same "Efrosina" nonsense. Love the way that they think calling her repeatedly by her full name instead of her chosen shortened version is such a burn. Let's hope they don't go the full hog and refer to J Lo as "Jennifer" 😱

by Anonymousreply 405April 23, 2021 11:49 AM

R401 So her photography professional is also a psychologist?

by Anonymousreply 406April 23, 2021 11:49 AM

R406 Possibly the IT expert who nailed the "everyone is using the same IP address" revelation...

by Anonymousreply 407April 23, 2021 1:24 PM

The 'free speech' hammerdrama reddit has gone private.

Where will I find exacting threads about where Effie buys her fake boots now???

by Anonymousreply 408April 24, 2021 6:23 PM

R408 *exciting

by Anonymousreply 409April 24, 2021 6:31 PM

R408 lmao they’re so ashamed.

by Anonymousreply 410April 25, 2021 5:27 AM

Good God, has this travesty of a shitfest movie been released yet? I think I might watch it just because of Armie.

by Anonymousreply 411April 25, 2021 5:30 AM

Armie's careers should just end to end this fan obsession lunacy about him. Dear God, these fans make Justin Bieber fans look civil and restraint.

by Anonymousreply 412April 25, 2021 6:29 AM

r412 regardless if he’ll end up in jail or not (depending on what LAPD finds on him), his career is over over. Who in Hollywood will touch him now when not a single person spoke up for him in 4 months? What woman would work with him now? These are just the remaining of his (uber annoying) crazy fans that can’t let go of the Armie they've made up in their heads. With all the content drying up, except the seemingly endless supply of his cringy sexts, they’ll go their merry way eventually. I give it one more year of this tops.

by Anonymousreply 413April 25, 2021 1:18 PM

This is art?

"Let me put it this way: Armie Hammer made himself into a meme, and I made him into the next Campbell Soup Can."

Also:

"In the Caligula Triptych, Armie reveals the existence of real sexual slavery among the royals and elite, casually referring to himself as ‘Caligula’: a violent tyrant with an insatiable appetite"

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by Anonymousreply 414April 25, 2021 11:24 PM

The burn...

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by Anonymousreply 415April 25, 2021 11:54 PM

Even worse would be not to be remembered

by Anonymousreply 416April 26, 2021 4:22 AM

Anyone delusional enough to think Armie can still have a career should check out the massive hate Ansel Elgort is getting after the first West Side Story trailer dropped last night. And he didn't do a tenth of the nasty shit Armie did. Wake up, #supportarmiehammerdelulus delulus! Your king is OVAH!

by Anonymousreply 417April 26, 2021 8:12 AM

Anyone delusional enough to think Armie can still have a career should check out the massive hate Ansel Elgort is getting after the first West Side Story trailer dropped last night. And he didn't do a tenth of the nasty shit Armie did. Wake up, #supportarmiehammer delulus! Your king is OVAH!

by Anonymousreply 418April 26, 2021 8:16 AM

Oh Lord. Simpi has entered the world of deep fakes now...

She really thinks a bunch of fairly random women have the skill and inclination to carry off voice cloning - this is the Daily Mail give me your goddamn orgasms business.

Surely her super duper network of experty-experts would be able to 'prove' this?

How can anyone take this clown seriously?

by Anonymousreply 419April 26, 2021 12:43 PM

LOL Simpi can bark aaaaall she wants, her bullshit can't save Armie's career. If he were innocent you think he'd be hiding for over 4 months? Armie, who has shown time and time again he doesn't know what shame is? But this time he knows he's fucked.

by Anonymousreply 420April 26, 2021 3:00 PM

His fans are so delusional, check out this comment lmaoooo:

"One day, Armie. One day it will be your name on everyone’s lips, singing your praises and wishing you good luck as the envelope is opened. One day you will get the chance to prove that you’ve always had the talent, and you will walk across that stage not to hand someone else the award, but to collect it for yourself. Whether it be for acting, directing, hell maybe even writing your own screenplay, I know there will be a day when you finally get to “shine, shine, shine” on your own. And I will be here cheering you on every step of the way. You deserve the world. Go take it. ❤️❤️❤️"

by Anonymousreply 421April 26, 2021 3:37 PM

^ if ever in life you start to doubt yourself or see yourself as in any way lacking or deficient...just remember that at least you’re not a batshit crazy Armie Hammer fangirl and thank your lucky stars...

by Anonymousreply 422April 26, 2021 4:10 PM

R422 of all the actors in the world, they choose Armie Hammer to stan. Iconic.

by Anonymousreply 423April 26, 2021 4:41 PM

LOL. At this point the crazy fans are more famous than Armie.

by Anonymousreply 424April 26, 2021 5:43 PM

R422 oh I thought they wanted him sexually? They think he can act? Ah they are delusional than we first thought.

by Anonymousreply 425April 26, 2021 7:34 PM

R425 They think?

by Anonymousreply 426April 26, 2021 7:36 PM

Look at these loons:

"ls it possible that our boys might be together now in LA and do you think Armie could easly leave Cayman without no one recognising him ? Seems difficult to me but ..."🤷🏻‍♀️

It happened so many times during these years that they both moved from one place to another under the radar without anyone had met them BY CHANCE. Armie has already left the Caymans other times without anyone having had any trace of him, so why this time it had to be different?

I think they’re sighted and recognized only when they want it to happen and they’ve no problem preventing it from happening when they don’t want it to. As I believe it should be.

And that also answers your first question, anon. 😘

anons

by Anonymousreply 427April 27, 2021 12:18 AM

Somehow I think LAPD would be very interested in knowing that Armie has arrived in LA. Typically serious violent crimes investigators like to do their interrogations in person. Which makes me very curious about next week’s custody hearing. Will it be done via zoom or in person? And to the Charmie loon: Believe what you will, but we know for a fact that there IS an investigation going on. Would you want your dear Timo to be charged with obstruction?

by Anonymousreply 428April 27, 2021 1:35 AM

His “lover” unfollowed him on Instagram lmao

by Anonymousreply 429April 27, 2021 1:10 PM

One thing that Chalamet is, and Armie never was, is very smart with his sm use. Between this and Lilothee back together, watch the charmies explode lmao

by Anonymousreply 430April 27, 2021 2:02 PM

They already have. It is non-stop bashing and whinging in their Discords. I am LOVING IT.

by Anonymousreply 431April 27, 2021 2:52 PM

Unfollowing everyone is really the only way Timmy could’ve unfollowed Armie without creating controversy or getting crazy Charmies attacking him. I mean idk if that’s for sure why he did it but the timing is interesting, especially since Giullian unfollowed Armie not that long ago and Giullian is also mutuals with Julia Morrison.

by Anonymousreply 432April 27, 2021 3:10 PM

I know that being the narcissistic sociopath he is Armie will never admit he did anything wrong, not to the public and not to himself, but I wonder if a part of him regrets the way he just threw his life away at only 34? For a talentless, boring chunk of bland like Armie he had quite the career, he could’ve found a hot actress to date and kept enjoying the life of the rich and famous. Now he’s a disgraced freak no one wants anything to do with. And all for what? Just to unleash his cringy fantasies on a bunch of trashy women on insta. What a loser.

by Anonymousreply 433April 27, 2021 4:20 PM

R433 He. Is. A. Narcissist. He won’t understand he had a GREAT career given his lack of talent and mediocre looks and shitty personality. He wanted to be Batman, who won an Oscar, who all the fans adored. Everything he was after was unattainable and he was highly ungrateful.

I have no doubt he used women as punching bags to satiate his tired, tiny ego and itty bitty, penis. Also, because lbh, he is a closet case with mental illness who hates his mother with his every breath.

The man is a joke. I hope he stays in the Cayman Islands.

by Anonymousreply 434April 27, 2021 6:32 PM

R431 who’s hurting? Please share so I can laugh.

by Anonymousreply 435April 27, 2021 6:33 PM

R435 The usual suspects: Chanel leading the charge against Lilothee. The level of vitriol is a clue how much they are hurting. Once they get to body criticism you know they have they so much acid in their kidneys, their wee must sizzle.

by Anonymousreply 436April 27, 2021 7:22 PM

R435 lmao. They must know the truth at this point but are just trying to save face. There’s no way anyone is this delusional.

by Anonymousreply 437April 27, 2021 7:36 PM

Imagine fans of Timothee Chalamet trying to criticise anyone else's body.

by Anonymousreply 438April 27, 2021 7:38 PM

Lads.

Chanel needs a kick in the cunt.

by Anonymousreply 439April 27, 2021 7:38 PM

R439 I think you mean a cunt punt.

by Anonymousreply 440April 27, 2021 7:40 PM

Whatever happened to that tapatalk group? They were convinced we were a bunch of morons who was just hating on innocent Armie. I thought they’d be around forever. But oh how the turntables.

by Anonymousreply 441April 27, 2021 7:44 PM

Smartest thing Timmy’s done in a while. Free himself from the toxic connection. He should have done it ages ago.

by Anonymousreply 442April 27, 2021 7:48 PM

R439 Chanel is the craziest of the lot, despite pretending to be above it all (even though Simpi is her BFF? Lmao). But her increasingly shrill sniping at the body/finances of any woman associated with Hammer or Chalamet is always a tell-tale sign that she knows she's totally fucking wrong about everything and is too much of a narcissist to admit it. Fun to watch though.

by Anonymousreply 443April 28, 2021 3:08 AM

R443 Utterly enjoyable to watch. Simpi must be on her sixth or seventh persona now - excuse me, eXpErTs.

by Anonymousreply 444April 28, 2021 4:41 AM

R444 Simpi is definitely Chanel.

by Anonymousreply 445April 28, 2021 4:45 AM

LOL at their fanfiction.

"Do u think armie cooks for timmy? Or what do u think they eat when they are together?"

He definitely did. I don’t think Timmy cooks at all lol so Armie did most of the cooking when they’re together. He probably made steak, pasta. Different dishes. Armie loves to cook and grill 😊

#anonymous

by Anonymousreply 446April 28, 2021 6:04 AM

Yeah I can see Armie cooking for Timmy. Blindfolding him and getting him to guess which of his ex’s ribs he’s eating.

by Anonymousreply 447April 28, 2021 8:48 AM

Simpi has an expert with 35 years experience in determining fake DMs. Wow, to think IG has only been around since 2010. Guess math isn't Simpi's strong suit.

by Anonymousreply 448April 28, 2021 11:32 AM

Oh dear...

latest unfolding chapter...

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by Anonymousreply 449April 28, 2021 2:32 PM

“ The series will also feature accounts from other survivors who have recently come forward.” This should be interesting. Can’t wait!

by Anonymousreply 450April 28, 2021 2:50 PM

I can't wait for Simpi to stick the tv through her toaster or whatever she's going to do to 'debunk' the series.

by Anonymousreply 451April 28, 2021 2:56 PM

Yes please to all of this 🍿

by Anonymousreply 452April 28, 2021 3:05 PM

Ooooohhhhh boyyyyyy! Yes, please R451. Thank you for that glorious image. This calls for extra butter on the popcorn!

by Anonymousreply 453April 28, 2021 3:12 PM

Who or what is “Simpi”?

by Anonymousreply 454April 29, 2021 8:48 AM

Simpi is my favourite entertainer. She is the Master of Ceremonies of the Charmie clown troupe. She needs work on her multiple personas but they make me guffaw so all is forgiven.

by Anonymousreply 455April 29, 2021 1:42 PM

R455 where does one go to see her perform?

by Anonymousreply 456April 29, 2021 4:49 PM

Instagram mainly. simpi.lovemyway or some version of that. But be aware. She is prolific. One of her personas - her most entertaining one is that of a lawyer. If you keep that in mind, it enhances the experience greatly.

by Anonymousreply 457April 29, 2021 9:25 PM

He is bland and ugly.

by Anonymousreply 458April 30, 2021 4:49 AM

^ and don’t forget psychotic.

by Anonymousreply 459April 30, 2021 10:48 AM

Hammer stan drama is the funniest. They take themselves sooo seriously lol.

by Anonymousreply 460May 1, 2021 8:33 AM

R460 Even rapist defenders hate Charmies.

by Anonymousreply 461May 1, 2021 8:38 AM

R461 i kinda find non-charmie defenders worse...i mean, who looks at Armie Hammer and decides this is the person i'm gonna go all in for lol.

by Anonymousreply 462May 1, 2021 8:47 AM

Was Rumer Willis describing a non consensual encounter with Armie Hammer in her Red Table Talk with Jada Pickett?

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by Anonymousreply 463May 1, 2021 8:52 AM

R461 Seriously. I tend to think they have other agendas. They may just hate women, some might against the Metoo movement in general. But most of the defenders are Charmies. Most ordinary people don’t know or care what happens to him.

by Anonymousreply 464May 1, 2021 8:56 AM

You should read some of the demented comments his stans are leaving on his last Instagram post. Some of them are trying to give him moral support and pep talks as though he’s a normal human being who gives a shit what others think.

Here’s one of my favourites comments: “Armie, stop your crazy aunt. Do something. It will kill your career.”

Bwahahahaha! As if that ship hasn’t already set sail...and sunk like the Titanic.

by Anonymousreply 465May 1, 2021 8:57 AM

R463 Any sexual encounter with Rumer by any member of the human race would be considered bestiality. She should be graceful for the mercy fuck(s) she got from Armie.

by Anonymousreply 466May 1, 2021 9:26 AM

R465 what does the aunt have to do with it? Are they blaming her now? Because of course it’s never Armie’s fault. Sounds like our old friend rmk is on the case. Hey wait. Is rmk the same as Simpi?

by Anonymousreply 467May 1, 2021 9:27 AM

R466 Probably but was he the one she mentioned in her video? She said it was a few months ago and they broke up pretty quick. I have the feeling he went on a rampage last summer.

by Anonymousreply 468May 1, 2021 9:30 AM

Armie seems like he’s been preparing for this for a while now. Didn’t he turn off his tags sometime last year? Still think Nick, his BFF and he had a falling out over Effie. He deleted sm and hasn’t been seen with Armie again. sus

by Anonymousreply 469May 1, 2021 9:34 AM

R468 Fairly sure she had some teeth marks in some of her insta photos so I guess he was around for a bit(e)

When the fuck did that become a thing by the way?

by Anonymousreply 470May 1, 2021 11:23 AM

R470 The teeth marks could be from one of her own sisters.

by Anonymousreply 471May 1, 2021 11:30 AM

R470 it’s not a thing. Does anyone think he’s sexy anymore because eww.

by Anonymousreply 472May 1, 2021 11:40 AM

R472 Nope.

That Daily Mail 'Give me your goddamn orgasms' tape was the final nail Hammered into the coffin.

I heard it and my whole body went dry...

by Anonymousreply 473May 1, 2021 1:04 PM

Rumer was performing at Ashton's place Kitchen in the desert. And sitting poolside at Ramsey 29. Dree Hemingway, her friend, and Nick are also there. And that French director from his finsta.

by Anonymousreply 474May 3, 2021 9:04 PM
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