Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Please click here to update your account with a username and password.

Hello. Some features on this site require registration. Please click here to register for free.

Hello and thank you for registering. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. If you can't find the email you can resend it here.

Hello. Some features on this site require a subscription. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month.

DL Fave Adam Kinzinger voted against the Equality Act

Remember that he’s a Republican next time you defend him against his GOP critics and ignorant family members. He’s not a Democrat in disguise.

by Anonymousreply 68October 15, 2021 11:14 PM

He is a perfect example of what happened to republicans. He is not even close to moderate yet he is at least sane and patriotic. There are no moderate republicans but the media demands Dems have moderates and give in to them. Dems are held to completely different standards.

by Anonymousreply 1February 25, 2021 11:24 PM

Unfortunately the self loathing idiot gays don’t care because he’s supposedly “hot.” What’s strange is he’s not all that - he’s 43, has no ass, and you can find much hotter younger guys on the street.

by Anonymousreply 2February 25, 2021 11:30 PM

3 republican Yes votes were from Katko (NY), Reed (NY), and Fitzpatrick (PA).

The 3 voted Yes in 2019 for the equality act but now voted No for the 2021 bill were Mario Diaz Balart (FL), Elise Stefanik (NY), and Jeff Van Drew (NJ).

by Anonymousreply 3February 25, 2021 11:36 PM

But some Republicans worry that this week's controversial antics from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who harassed Rep. Marie Newman (D-Ill.) over her transgender daughter, have stomped on their attempts to sensitively communicate why they are opposed to the LGBTQ rights bill. Most Republicans say they oppose the measure due to its perceived infringement on religious freedom, not out of discriminatory sentiment toward LGBTQ people -- a fine line that Greene has effectively erased.

The Greene-Newman incident has revived a thorny issue for the GOP, which has wrestled over its stance on gay marriage and battled accusations that it's not inclusive or protective of LGBTQ rights. Just last year, former Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-Va.) was censured by his state party for officiating a same-sex marriage; he wound up losing his primary race.

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas), who is hosting a transgender person on his podcast next week to discuss military issues, said it’s “pretty damn important” for the GOP to clearly articulate why they oppose this particular bill.

“There’s definitely a wrong way to message everything,” he added.

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 4February 25, 2021 11:38 PM

I also find it interesting that Katko has consistently done the right thing so far this year. Maybe he'll switch...

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 5February 25, 2021 11:43 PM

[quote]Most Republicans say they oppose the measure due to its perceived infringement on religious freedom, not out of discriminatory sentiment toward LGBTQ people -- a fine line that Greene has effectively erased.

I couldn't give a flying fuck about this distinction. "Most Republicans" can take their "religious freedom" and go fuck themselves.

by Anonymousreply 6February 25, 2021 11:43 PM

The. Enemy. Of. Your. Enemy. Is. Not. Your. Friend.

Whether it's Adam Kinzinger, or the Lincoln Project, or George Will, or Mitt Romney, just because a Republican spoke out against Trump doesn't mean they magically became supportive of progressive ideals.

by Anonymousreply 7February 25, 2021 11:51 PM

I think as horrible as it is to witness votes like this and behold the hatred, it only helps our cause. LET them vote against us, LET them vote against inclusion, against equality, against liberty, against freedom. Let the People see the monster.

by Anonymousreply 8February 25, 2021 11:56 PM

Is this the Act that says transvestites are women?

by Anonymousreply 9February 25, 2021 11:59 PM

The equal rights act’s perceived infringement on religious freedom is to appease the racist and bigoted evangelicals.

Equal rights has nothing to do with religious freedom.

by Anonymousreply 10February 26, 2021 12:01 AM

The equal rights act must be marketed as an act for all people. Remember when gay marriage was not approved and then it got rebranded it to marriage equality which sounded like it was for everybody?

by Anonymousreply 11February 26, 2021 12:04 AM

Off topic, but this is my favorite video of the day.

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 12February 26, 2021 12:51 AM

I don't think it's fair to female high school athletes to allow XYs to compete against them. Apart from that, I support the bill.

by Anonymousreply 13February 26, 2021 1:37 AM

[quote] I don't think it's fair to female high school athletes to allow XYs to compete against them.

That's why it didn't pass. I don't agree with it either

by Anonymousreply 14February 26, 2021 2:54 AM

I'm ONE HUNDRED percent aligned with you, OP! Kinzinger gets such a pass just because he is MARGINALLY better that die-hard Trumpsters and because he's reasonably attractive. He still actually voted FOR Trump in 2020. He still voted overwhelmingly WITH Trump in Congress. He is trying to have it both ways. He gets to go on CNN and MSNBC and look like a dying breed... the "reasonable" Republican. But deep down he's just as heartless and morally corrupt as 99% of every other Republican.

by Anonymousreply 15February 26, 2021 2:57 AM

[quote] That's why it didn't pass.

1) Wrong. It did pass

2) Predicating the lives of literally millions working, tax-paying adults on the minuscule possibility of a worst case scenario doesn't make sense to me.

What if the situation were reversed and we decided to tax churches but voted it down because a couple of convents then might not be able to financially support Girl Scout troops?

by Anonymousreply 16February 26, 2021 3:27 AM

[quote] I don't think it's fair to female high school athletes to allow XYs to compete against them. Apart from that, I support the bill.

There is no "apart from that." That is the thrust of the bill. Those who voted for it should be ashamed.

by Anonymousreply 17February 26, 2021 4:19 AM

That's ^^^ just bizarre.

Here is the bill as proposed.

The 22 bullet points mention everything from courts, to housing, to workplace protections, to conversion therapy to even breast feeding.

The words "school sports" do not come up in a search.

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 18February 26, 2021 4:47 AM

This bill is about basic human dignity.

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 19February 26, 2021 5:01 AM

If the bill is just about basic human dignity then stop trying to erase the basic rights and dignity of women.

I oppose the bill as it stands. Fucking change it to protect women and girls and recognize their sex based protections and rights.

by Anonymousreply 20February 26, 2021 5:23 AM

This is why you STFU about "woke" and every other thing for which you go off about the left. The right will always be dangerous garbage. All of them.

by Anonymousreply 21February 26, 2021 5:42 AM

Marjorie, r20, please explain how this bill erases the basic rights and dignity of women.

by Anonymousreply 22February 26, 2021 5:44 AM

R20, don't be confusing the worst antics of trans activists with the vast majority of trans people who are not making extravagant claims about gender but just going about their lives and who deserve some protection.

by Anonymousreply 23February 26, 2021 5:49 AM

R20 is full of shit as usual.

by Anonymousreply 24February 26, 2021 6:06 AM

LOL. As if it wasn't clear enough that the anti trans trolls are right wing extremists. Sure, they do it to "protect" the dignity of girls and women. Like the right wingers "protect" women from getting an abortion or coming forward to report sexual assault.

by Anonymousreply 25February 26, 2021 6:43 AM

I can understand why some people have a problem with trans girls in girls' sports. TBH, I'm not sure what I think about it myself. But this is a very minor part of the Equality Act that has been homed in on and made to appear like it was the main point *because* it is still controversial, whereas to most sane Americans in 2021, notions such as "you shouldn't be able to fire/evict/refuse services to people because they are gay" and "you shouldn't be able to fire/demote a woman because she got pregnant or wouldn't blow you" are really not that controversial. The right wing has focused on the specter of trannies on the playing field and in the locker room because it allows them to oppose this bill while pretending they are not anti-gay or anti-equality for women, but simply want to protect women and girls.

by Anonymousreply 26February 26, 2021 7:45 AM

The right wing exploits a genuine temporarily concern. Adjusting to trans in women spaces and in women's sports is a fairly new thing. It will sort itself out rather sooner than later on its own. The right wing hysteria blows it up to a toxic level to make it a hot button issue like illegal aliens, Liberal socialism, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

by Anonymousreply 27February 26, 2021 8:00 AM

If Adam Kinzinger weren’t attractive and a publicity hound, we would have no interest in him. I hope he loses his house seat during the primary challenge we all know it’s coming.

by Anonymousreply 28February 26, 2021 11:19 AM

Let's see, what is the bigger threat to America, Donald Trump, or not letting men use the women's restroom room?

by Anonymousreply 29February 26, 2021 11:34 AM

He's a typical establishment Republican, so compared to Trumpians, you can see him as being the lesser of two evils.

by Anonymousreply 30February 26, 2021 12:01 PM

And that's the thing. The Democratic Party isn't the lesser of two evils when the GQP is next to it. They are the world's savior at this point. That's how evil and pathetic the GQP has become. And we've got Trump to thank for that.

by Anonymousreply 31February 26, 2021 12:04 PM

[quote]their attempts to sensitively communicate why they are opposed to the LGBTQ rights bill

This from the Politico at R3 is why I fucking HATE Politico. There is no "sensitive" reason to oppose this bill, and there is no real difference between a polite opposition to this bill and Greene's crazy alt-right LGBT hate. Being polite about being a bigot isn't really any better than being a nutjob about your bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 32February 26, 2021 12:07 PM

[quote]Let's see, what is the bigger threat to America, Donald Trump, or not letting men use the women's restroom room?

I'm old, I remember when there were genderless restrooms in the 1990s, it was a big trend, probably because of Ally McBeal, and there was no Tranny Crime Wave Spree like the trolls keep saying is going to happen, so it just confounds me that these people say "Well at least Trump won't allow men in the bathrooms!" like that's a real worry.

by Anonymousreply 33February 26, 2021 12:11 PM

R33, um, just where were these genderless communal restrooms? Some specifics please. Not single usage rooms but communal ones. .

by Anonymousreply 34February 26, 2021 12:24 PM

The refusal to acknowledge the difference between men and women and how that plays out innthe REAL world is the problem here. Pandering to the demands of a tiny segment of people who want to larp through life based on their delusions is the problem.

Refusing to see how the erasure of women's specific SEX BASED differences leads to the need for SEX BASED protections and rights for women is the true bigotry.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge this is either wilfully stupid or a simple misogynist.

by Anonymousreply 35February 26, 2021 12:30 PM

[quote] If Adam Kinzinger weren’t attractive and a publicity hound, we would have no interest in him. I hope he loses his house seat during the primary challenge we all know it’s coming.

I realize Kinzonger's no saint, but he'll probably get primaried by somebody much more trumpy and insane than he is, so why would you wish for that person to win?

by Anonymousreply 36February 26, 2021 10:18 PM

[quote] The refusal to acknowledge the difference between men and women and how that plays out innthe REAL world is the problem here.

No it's not. Most of us acknowledge that there physiological differences between men and women, we just don't think the inclusion of a few possibly questionable rights for trans people is reason enough to toss out the whole bill and all of the needed and important rights and protections it would extend to gays and, guess who, women.

As you yourself pointed out, trans people make up only a tiny segment of the population, so there's never going to be an army of former males waiting to storm the women's restroom or sign up for girls' sports in any given location. And as r27 says, it'll sort itself out in time; no need to blow up a 99 percent desirable bill over it.

by Anonymousreply 37February 26, 2021 10:33 PM

[quote]trans people make up only a tiny segment of the population, so there's never going to be an army of former males (or females)

There are more trans people than lesbians among Gen Z.

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 38February 26, 2021 10:42 PM

and Millennials.

by Anonymousreply 39February 26, 2021 10:44 PM

[quote] There are more trans people than lesbians among Gen Z.

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 40February 26, 2021 10:51 PM

How much of a dick do you have to be to hate both Trump and gay people?

by Anonymousreply 41February 26, 2021 11:04 PM

Katko is from Upstate NY Syracuse - Trump lost in his district he knows what the right side is. They’re not too far gone up there.

by Anonymousreply 42February 26, 2021 11:10 PM

Why can’t they just pass a gay/lesbian/bi bill and do the rest in a separate bill at the same time?

by Anonymousreply 43February 26, 2021 11:19 PM

r43, LOL like the right wing wouldn't come up with a fake reason to oppose that one, too.

by Anonymousreply 44February 26, 2021 11:22 PM

Who cares, r44. Split them out anyway.

by Anonymousreply 45February 26, 2021 11:23 PM

r45, that shows where your true loyalties are. With the right wing and their divide & conquer scheme.

by Anonymousreply 46February 26, 2021 11:25 PM

I don’t have loyalties - true or otherwise - to directional wings.

by Anonymousreply 47February 26, 2021 11:25 PM

Is this the Tranny bill ?

by Anonymousreply 48February 26, 2021 11:37 PM

R3 fuck Van Drew in the ass with his stupid pocket squares.

by Anonymousreply 49February 26, 2021 11:40 PM

Oh the insane anti-trans trolls are here. You incels give this more attention than anybody. I have some issue with the sports thing but FUCK you trolls just lose your SHIT because you are trying to be divisive.

by Anonymousreply 50February 26, 2021 11:50 PM

You still haven't explained yourself, r35 Marjorie. Calling people ignorant is not a very good argument. You also forgot the third option, which is that you don't like trans people. This bill does no harm to women and you haven't even tried to explain how it would.

by Anonymousreply 51February 27, 2021 6:15 AM

Gosh, the tranny defenders are so fucking annoying...

This "Equality" act is a slap in the face of the women's rights. Only misogynists/tranny fuckers are happy with this "equality act".

by Anonymousreply 52February 28, 2021 2:26 AM

Van Drew , who bears more than a passing resemblance to Leslie Jordan, was a Democrat last time the bill came up

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 53February 28, 2021 2:33 AM

There are people who cling to religion for the sole reason that it gives them power to oppress LGBTQ people. We have to be protected against them, or they will marginalize us to nothing.

by Anonymousreply 54February 28, 2021 2:39 AM

Both Sidezinger is at it again:

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 55April 13, 2021 1:51 PM

Did he explain his vote?

by Anonymousreply 56April 13, 2021 1:56 PM

He knows they’re all in open relationships anyways...

by Anonymousreply 57April 13, 2021 1:58 PM

King.

by Anonymousreply 58May 6, 2021 9:26 PM

This bill is going to end so many careers of bio(chuckle)women. It’s going to be so sad but so necessary to watch.

by Anonymousreply 59May 6, 2021 9:30 PM

I'm glad to see them so divided. I'm not under any illusions about him, or Liz Cheney or Romney or Collins, or the Senator from Alaska, etc.

by Anonymousreply 60May 6, 2021 9:33 PM

[quote] The right wing has focused on the specter of trannies on the playing field and in the locker room because it allows them to oppose this bill while pretending they are not anti-gay or anti-equality for women, but simply want to protect women and girls.

So take away the ammo: make it clear that no one born male can complete in women’s sports! *boom!!*. Problem solved.

by Anonymousreply 61July 26, 2021 10:06 PM

Look, I have a soft spot for Kinzinger too because he hates McCarthy and Trump. But his voting record speaks for itself and we need to remember who he is and who Liz Cheney is.

by Anonymousreply 62July 27, 2021 6:25 PM

Kinzinger defended Newman when MTG attacked Newman's (now) daughter.

But...

The Chicago Sun-Times:

[quote] Democrats in the Illinois General Assembly released the proposed new congressional map on Friday, with the lines drawn to yield 14 Democratic and three Republican districts. The Illinois Democrats, who control the state House, Senate and governorship, drew odd-shaped districts — referred to as gerrymandered districts — designed to sweep in Democratic strongholds and shed GOP turf.

[quote] GOP Reps. Adam Kinzinger and Rodney Davis have said they may run for senator or governor if they determine there is no district where they have a chance to win. Kinzinger, of Channahon, who carved out a national profile with his anti-Trump crusade, is in a district with freshman Democrat Marie Newman of LaGrange. The district has a Democratic edge. Kinzinger’s political problem is that he is a major target of the pro-Trump forces in the GOP.

[quote] Kinzinger lashes out in a statement:

[quote] “I have proudly served six terms in the U.S. House and it has been an honor to do so. Following the release of the new congressional maps for Illinois, my team and I will spend some time looking them over and reviewing all of the options, including those outside the House. This redistricting process has been anything but transparent, which comes as no surprise to anyone. I believe the people of Illinois deserve better.”

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 63October 15, 2021 10:56 PM

[quote] he’s not all that - he’s 43, has no ass,

Prove to me he has no ass!

by Anonymousreply 64October 15, 2021 11:03 PM

I insist that politicians have asses.

by Anonymousreply 65October 15, 2021 11:04 PM

[quote]There are no moderate republicans but the media demands Dems have moderates and give in to them. Dems are held to completely different standards.

Dems do this to themselves. Schumer could nuke the filibuster so that Sinema and Manchin don’t matter…if he wanted to.

by Anonymousreply 66October 15, 2021 11:06 PM

R66, please explain how Schumer gets 50 votes without Sinema and Manchin.

Please show your work.

by Anonymousreply 67October 15, 2021 11:08 PM

The Equality Act has gender provisions that make the entire act dangerous, if those provisions weren't in there it would be good.

by Anonymousreply 68October 15, 2021 11:14 PM
Loading
Need more help? Click Here.

Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." Take a look at our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, click ACCEPT. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site for your pointless bitchery needs.

×

Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads!