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Why didn’t John Goodman win an Emmy for Roseanne?

He is the heart and soul of the show, a formidable character. And Goodman is a respected stage actor like Metcalf- who won 3 Emmys in a row for the show.

I can’t believe he never won.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Tuesday at 1:29 AM

Even Roseanne won an Emmy - BEATING - Candice Bergen, Kirstie Alley & Helen Hunt

by Anonymousreply 1Last Monday at 5:50 AM

He made it look too easy?

by Anonymousreply 2Last Monday at 5:52 AM

I agree. He had some great episodes, like the one where he lost his bike shop and Becky blamed him for the family's misfortune before running away to elope. Then there was the episode where Becky came back and Dan gave her the cold shoulder. And the episodes that dealt with his absent dad and his mentally ill mother.

by Anonymousreply 3Last Monday at 5:53 AM

He didn’t deserve an Emmy.

by Anonymousreply 4Last Monday at 5:55 AM

John Goodman is a fine actor. However, in the show 'Roseanne' he is the straight man to the antics of all the crazy women. Therefore, while Dan Conner is a fine role, it is not award material.

by Anonymousreply 5Last Monday at 5:58 AM

Not a fan of the current incarnation... too much drama for a comedy.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Monday at 9:07 AM

I've heard that Goodman wasn't very good at submitting episodes for Emmy consideration, and that really mattered a great deal during the '80s and '90s, when I think voters judging a category had to show up to a screening and watch the five submissions for a category back-to-back. Now, Emmy voters have to affirm that they watched all the submissions, but that doesn't mean they actually do.

That's also why Candice Bergen won so many times during that era. She was great at picking the right episodes, which usually had some huge comic showcase for her.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Monday at 9:24 AM

[quote] She was great at picking the right episodes, which usually had some huge comic showcase for her.

The irony is that the one episode Roseanne picked to win the Emmy (and BEAT Candice Bergen), was a dramatic episode where Roseanne comes to terms with her father's death (who was abusive to her)

by Anonymousreply 8Last Monday at 9:27 AM

Candice was also Hollywood royalty in a show about television news, hence why Emmy voters awarded her so often that she ultimately had to withdraw her name from consideration.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Monday at 9:27 AM

I checked, and it looks like he lost to Kelsey Grammar and John Lithgow several times, but also Ted Danson and Richard Mulligan.

by Anonymousreply 10Last Monday at 10:08 AM

The Emmys both daytime and and primetime were judged by blue ribbon panels back then consisting of members from across all the branches. As mentioned above they would have to show up to vote and would watch both episodes submitted by the nominees and then vote on the spot. Now, they probably do it at home, probably not watch the episodes (which I think now is online) and vote for friends and recognizable names. They have gotten better int he last 5-10 years on the awards because previous ANY movie star doing any kind of of role would win regardless of how good some of the other nominees were deserving. I do think he deserved to win a at least once. He was actually nominated almost every year of the show and many times more than Roseanne herself.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Monday at 10:15 AM

He was a drunk. Popular, but a drunk.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Monday at 10:35 AM

I feel that Goodman should've been nominated for an Oscar by now.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Monday at 10:39 AM

What R11 said.

And given that anything not on streaming, Showtime, FX or HBO is considered to be second rate crap, that means winners few Flyoverstanis have ever heard of.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Monday at 10:40 AM

Not to mention the Nobel Peace Prize R13

by Anonymousreply 15Last Monday at 10:41 AM

R15, I thought Goodman was great in 10 Cloverfield Lane and Flight.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Monday at 10:42 AM

Never watched the show, not one single episode, so have no comment.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Monday at 10:48 AM

OP Have you seen him? Big as a house!

by Anonymousreply 18Last Monday at 10:49 AM

So is (Emmy winner) Chrissy Metz, r18.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Monday at 10:59 AM

Chrissy Metz never won an Emmy.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Monday at 11:25 AM

He won.

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by Anonymousreply 21Last Monday at 11:39 AM

Oh sorry. Emmy.

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by Anonymousreply 23Last Monday at 11:40 AM

One thing I've always hated about the Emmys is that they would award the same person or show three, five, seven times. If someone has three Emmys, they don't have to be a hog and submit over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Monday at 11:44 AM

Candice Bergen winning five Emmys for her monotonous line readings and a completely unfunny performance in Murphy Brown is a travesty. The wooden bitch didn't deserve to even be nominated let alone win five times. Talk about nepotism and privilege.

by Anonymousreply 25Last Monday at 11:48 AM

Miss Victoria Sleestack has won 6 emmys! I only have 1 and am a jealous bitch!

by Anonymousreply 26Last Monday at 12:06 PM

Fat shaming.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Monday at 12:11 PM

So what of his size r18? That has nothing to do with his acting ability.

Btw, he’s fat and famous.

You’re just fat.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Monday at 12:30 PM

He deserved an Emmy for his turn as Linda Tripp. Probably one of the last times I've laughed out loud during SNL.

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by Anonymousreply 29Last Monday at 12:33 PM

[quote]Even Roseanne won an Emmy - BEATING - Candice Bergen, Kirstie Alley & Helen Hunt

Candice had already won three times, and Kirstie won one when Roseanne finally got hers. If anything, it was like "What finally took them so long?" because the show had been on for five years by that point. Roseanne was actually predicted to win the previous season, when she got her first nomination, but Candice walked away with it largely due to the sympathy vote over Dan Quayle trashing Bergen and Murphy Brown. Roseanne didn't even bother to show up to accept when she won, because she didn't think she had a chance in winning.

Other than Metcalf, the show did not get much love by the academy. Zero nominations for Best Comedy Series which is baffling in hindsight. And the year John Goodman decided to pull his name from submission, they snubbed everyone. It was not a popular show with the Emmys.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Monday at 12:43 PM

John's episode submissions:

1989: Dan's Birthday Bash

1990: Born to be Wild

1991: Her Boyfriends Back

1992: The Back Story

1993: Terms of Estrangement Part 2

1994: Guilt by Imagination

1995: The Blaming of the Shrew

by Anonymousreply 31Last Monday at 12:49 PM

R8, this typified the Emmy submissions of the 80s and 90s -- send in the most dramatic episode you have for consideration of a comedy award. Even actors think drama is "more worthy" than fine comedic turns.

This was the in line with the "very special episode" curse of TV comedies.

by Anonymousreply 32Last Monday at 12:52 PM

This one: 1992: The Back Story - was his finest work on Roseanne and would be Emmy worthy for any show, any year.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Monday at 1:16 PM

[quote] Never watched the show, not one single episode, so have no comment.

And yet you commented!

by Anonymousreply 34Last Monday at 1:50 PM

I always thought there was something smug about his performance in Roseanne.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Monday at 1:53 PM

[quote] I feel that Goodman should've been nominated for an Oscar by now.

I agree. His King Ralph was up there with Olivier, Richardson and Branagh.

by Anonymousreply 36Last Monday at 2:00 PM

Haven't there been gay rumors about him for a long time?

by Anonymousreply 37Last Tuesday at 1:29 AM
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