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I Have a Nazi Fetish

Yes, I’m gay and I love Jews and POC, so it’s not the ideology, it’s the aesthetics and time period that completely fascinate me. I actually got my degree in German History, specializing in Nazi propaganda (yes, you can do that). I watched tons of movies, read lots of biographies and histories. I find it the most interesting era ever, even if it only lasted 12 years. I know I’m not alone in this, even here on DL, where there have been lots of discussions of the war years. Who also shares my interest?

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by Anonymousreply 3502/23/2021

Those Hugo Boss Nazi dress coats were fabulous. Nice lines.

by Anonymousreply 102/21/2021

You lost, OP? Here you go. This is right up in your alley.

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by Anonymousreply 202/21/2021

There have been several threads over the last 20 years or so purely about Nazi aesthetics. Invariably they're Flamed & Freaked because posters don't separate the atrocities committed from the aesthetics.

by Anonymousreply 302/21/2021

The Nazis were brilliant marketers. They had a simple message (blame the Jews!), a compelling 'product' ("Make Germany great again!") and a superb logo.

by Anonymousreply 402/21/2021

[quote]Who also shares my interest?

Nope.... the DDR, however...

by Anonymousreply 502/21/2021

[quote]The Nazis were brilliant marketers. They had a simple message (blame the Jews!), a compelling 'product' ("Make Germany great again!") and a superb logo.

So, what you're saying is that Joseph Goebbels was the Don Draper of his day?

by Anonymousreply 602/21/2021

[quote] a superb logo

The flag with the black spider on it.

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by Anonymousreply 702/21/2021

They were definitely masters of visual presentation. There was a simplicity in their signs and banners that let the swastika or eagle dominate the attention. Red White and Black made for good visual contrast, and appeared strong and dominant.

I feel like there is a stylistic through line from the fetish wear of the Weimar Republic to Hugo Boss's designs for the SS and the Nazi Leadership - with the more sexualized elements toned down, of course.

Dress uniforms from other countries - especially overcoats, were also more appealing back then, but the Nazis did top them.

None if this takes away from the atrocities they committed, or makes them at all admirable. That should go without saying, but this being the internet, and this being a time where anything and everything gets twisted, and blown out of proportion, I do have to say it:

Just because the Nazis were well dressed, does't mean that they weren't evil.

by Anonymousreply 802/21/2021

[quote]Just because the Nazis were well dressed, does't mean that they weren't evil.

I both want and do not want to live in a world where this has to be said...

by Anonymousreply 902/21/2021

OP, somebody should have slapped some sense into you before you got your Nazi degree.

by Anonymousreply 1002/21/2021

Yes I am gay and a lifelong Democrat who voted for Biden, so it's not the ideology.

It's the experience and the Jell-O Slime Mold aesthetics that make me want Donald Trump for God King Emperor of the Universe for Eternity. And I'll riot if I don't get my way.

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by Anonymousreply 1102/21/2021

Stylistically they were interesting. Ideologically, they really fucking sucked. I think that the word fetish isn't doing you any favors here as if one just reads the thread title it sounds as if you get off sexually from Jewish people dying while you are wearing a swastika

by Anonymousreply 1202/21/2021

Why does OP call it a fetish? It sounds like he’s just interested in a specific period of history.

by Anonymousreply 1302/21/2021

I am fascinated by the propagandist architecture of the Reich. Everything is/was overscaled and designed to make the individual small and insignificant. I made a tour of the surviving buildings several years ago and found everything to be very cold and unappealing. But, I do find the uniforms, riding pants and boots to be particularly sexy. That said, I have a hard time separating any design of the regime from the atrocities of the time.

by Anonymousreply 1402/21/2021

OP, you should check out the films of Karl Ritter (STUKAS, 1941; BEZATZUNG DORA, 1943, et al). Lusty, hearty Nazi pillots love being Nazis and killing people from the air! Available at International Historic Films (out of Chicago).

Also of note: HOCH KOPF, JOHANNES! (41), set in a Nazi military academy (lots of partial nudity in the swimming pool and locker room scenes), and Leni Riefenstahl's 1938 OLYMPIA, Part II (38), with beautiful blonde Nazi boys cavorting in their birthday suits in saunas and lakes!

The Third Reich was totally "Masc 4 Masc."

by Anonymousreply 1502/21/2021

I have an obsession with art and politics in Weimar Germany, and in post-'45 Germany ('45 through the fall of the Wall). Unfortunately I have friends who interpret that as a Nazi fetish. A friend one Christmas gave me a 1200-page history of Auschwitz. No I have not read it. 1200 pages of precisely how the Nazis handled prisoners isn't my speed, to say the least.

As you can imagine "Babylon Berlin" is quite near and dear to my heart. (that club really existed, though it didn't have a brothel in the basement, it was owned by the Armenian mob.)

Fun fact: the "telephone bar" featured in Cabaret remained open through the Nazi era, and was bombed to smithereens by the Allies in 1944.

by Anonymousreply 1602/21/2021

[quote] I find it the most interesting era ever, even if it only lasted 12 years.

It must be a shithole hellhole where you live, OP. Under the burning, searing light of a domineering evil mother, anything goes for you, OP.

by Anonymousreply 1702/21/2021

Years ago i found a book about homoerotic art of the third Reich that was a very interesting art/history book, that I wish I had purchased. I've never been able to find it again since.

Just tried to look for it via google and amazon to link here, but again could not find it.

by Anonymousreply 1802/21/2021

Sometimes when I jerk off, I wish there were more Nazi porn to masturbate to.

by Anonymousreply 1902/21/2021

OP, It's amazing how you can type with your right hand halfway up the air.

by Anonymousreply 2002/21/2021

[quote]posters don't separate the atrocities committed from the aesthetics

The aesthetics are inextricably linked to the atrocities. As others mentioned, their aesthetics were part of their branding, making themselves seem professional, stylish, impressive, and threatening all at once. You can't have the Nazis without their aesthetics.

OP wasn't much of a student if he managed to get himself suckered by Nazi branding decades after they were all but destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 2102/21/2021

Bump

by Anonymousreply 2202/22/2021

OP types bottom.

by Anonymousreply 2302/22/2021

I'm currently watching The Man In The High Tower. All that throwing hands up in the air is exhausting. To paraphrase the tag line for "Evita on Broadway", "How was someone able to seduce an entire country?" Did the Germans go along to get along?

by Anonymousreply 2402/22/2021

We can relate OP, we have the same fetish.

But without the gay, and love for Jews and POC.

by Anonymousreply 2502/22/2021

Here's OP's kind of guy...

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by Anonymousreply 2602/23/2021

The AfD will welcome you with open arms, fraulein OP.

by Anonymousreply 2702/23/2021

Always had an interest in terms of graphic design, visual identity, and menswear. That's an observation not an affiliation btw.

by Anonymousreply 2802/23/2021

I'm the OP. I was locked out to making comments, maybe because of starting this thread? By fetish, I meant that it really fascinates me and it is a bit furtive, since I keep propaganda pictures on my computer that would make a random person think I was a Neo-Nazi. But I'm not. I certainly don't hang them on my walls (like Jay Carney and his Soviet propaganda posters). And I collect books about the era. I think you CAN separate the art/architecture from the atrocities, I mean, I do. There is nothing sexual about my interest - I'm not into uniforms or boots or anything like that. Anyway, not sure why I started this thread, should have expected a lot of abuse, but some people had interesting comments.

by Anonymousreply 2902/23/2021

Hi Milo.

by Anonymousreply 3002/23/2021

I am like Milo in that I have only ever dated men of color. Despite my "fetish", I'm not really into the blond Aryan type.

by Anonymousreply 3102/23/2021

[quote] Did the Germans go along to get along?

Hitler was a false God offering false promises at a time when many people struggled to make ends meet.

And look at OP, dazzled by the Nazi aesthetic. How shallow. Like it's ok to separate the fashion appeal from the bigoted, violent, murderous Nazi lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 3202/23/2021

DL, because of my fetish, I'm going to put this on my car, but I don't want any problems. Do you think it will be OK? It's just because aesthetics.

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by Anonymousreply 3302/23/2021

NP, r33. Just get a bumper sticker that says, "I'm only into the aesthetics, not the atrocities" and everyone will understand.

by Anonymousreply 3402/23/2021

Aesthetically pleasing?

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