Janis Joplin shades Ike Turner

I'm surprised Dick Cavett didn't know who Ike & Tina Turner were, they'd had hits and Grammy nominations by that time.

Janis knew what was up with Ike, you can tell.

Janice knew. She knew.

Janice knew and Janis also knew.

Always struck with how articulate Janis was.

r4 she was extremely bright and a voracious reader.

[quote] I'm surprised Dick Cavett didn't know who Ike & Tina Turner were, they'd had hits and Grammy nominations by that time.

Me too. I guess Tina didn't really break through to greater recognition until "Proud Mary" became a hit, which was 1971.

[quote]voracious reader

Stop with this fucking cliche. It may have sounded bracingly intelligent the first million times. But no more.

Janis seemed soft spoken and a little shy there.

Dick was an honorary KKK Grand Wizard.

There was no "shade" in that clip.

CONTROVERSY FAIL

I didn't detect shade there either. She described who he was the bandleader. But that Tina was the show.

And she was right.

That was shade.

She was suggesting that "The Ike and Tina Turner Review" should be called "The Tina Turner Review"

Janis Joplin was really a fascinating character. And one of the most tormented. Probably the best biography written about her was "Buried Alive" by Myra Friedman, who actually knew her (she was her publicist). Friedman said this of her: "She was more complicated, more fragile more vulnerable underneath all that stuff. It's true that she was often very difficult and very coarse. She was flamboyant, she was wild, all of that stuff, but she was at the same time a complex person with a very strong puritanical streak."

She really suffered from being teased in high school--everyone thought she was a weirdo, and instead of embracing it she really suffered because of it. She went back for a h.s. reunion after she was famous and it was a disaster--even though she was famous, she felt they still treated her like a weirdo.

thanks OP that was cool

[quote]she was at the same time a complex person with a very strong puritanical streak

Yes, heroin was closely associated with the Puritans.

Why do otherwise intelligent people use heroin (or cocaine or speed or smoke cigarettes, etc.), R5, R16? I'm old and I still don't understand.

R17 Because drugs are fun.

"Why do otherwise intelligent people use heroin (or cocaine or speed or smoke cigarettes, etc.), [R5], [R16]? I'm old and I still don't understand."

Well, heroin users do it to numb themselves. Heroin doesn't make you feel good; it makes you feel nothing. And for whatever reason, to escape pressure or stress or unhappiness or just for the enjoyment of feeling blissfully numbed, heroin users love that feeling. Here are some famous junkies:

Kurt Cobain

Ray Charles

Gia Carangi

Marianne Faithfull

Keith Richards

Anita Pallenberg

Billie Holiday

Deborah Harry

Ricky Lee Jones

Eric Clapton

Jimmy Page

John Lennon

Yoko Ono

Lucy Grealy

Anthony Kiedis

John Belushi

Miles Davis

Lenny Bruce

William Burroughs

Courtney Love

Tom Petty

Philip Seymour Hoffman

Charlie Parker

Lou Reed

Anita O'Day

Sid Vicious

I wonder if there will ever be a Janis Joplin biopic. There's been talk of one for decades. Actresses who were supposedly slated to play her were Melissa Etheridge, Courtney Love, Pink, Lili Taylor, Zooey Deschanel, Brittany Murphy, Nina Arianda, Reese Witherspoon, Laura Theodore, Renee Zellweger, Amy Adams. I hope one never gets made. I don't think any actress could do her justice. Janis Joplin was just too much, just too larger than life.

Yes you've seen it before OP. On the Whitney Thread. And the Katharine Hepburn thread.

She's throwing obvious shade, I think the people who say otherwise are just trying to be contrarian, it's BEYOND obvious.