Janet thanks fans after “Control” shoots to Number One 35 Years Later

[quote]Janet is so happy.

Too bad we can't tell, with all that plastic surgery.

Janet SLAYS!

Madonna DECAYS!

Her thank you

She looks like she's morphing into Eartha Kitt at OP.

Love her.

Bitch is whiter than Beyonce.

She's turned into Eartha Kitt!

R8 If only that were true. Eartha Kitt was a talented artist and a style icon. Janet Jackson is a bloated hack.

See...

Such a fun CD. I wish she’d aged gracefully.

She was always so pretty. Idk why she fucked her face up.

❤️❤️❤️❤️

Waaaaaayyy more Nora Desmond than Eartha Kitt.

Eartha wanted Janet to play her in a biopic

....

Isn't Janet bisexual?

Janet has done some very gay things. Like she had vogue dancer Willi Ninja in her music video "Alright", that music video "Your Love Will Never Do" looked like softcore gay porn, "You Want This" featuring MC Lyte seemed like a lesbian anthem, most of The Velvet Rope was just gay, bi and lesbian anthems like her cover of "Tonight's The Night", the AIDs tribute song "Together Again" and anti-homophobia song "Free Xone". The songs "Feedback" and "Rock With U" on Discipline were clearly made for her gay fanbase and Janet was pulling off some drag queen looks in that era.

She once said that she had crushes on women when she was a teen, and rumors abounded that she had flings with Tina Landon and her former dancer Shawnette Heard.

[quote]The Queen of Pop is back.

She is?

Has she knocked Janet off the top spot?

Janet is totally straight.

She's not above pretending to be a lesbian to seem edgy though.

Maybe Janet and Britney's teams collaborated for the Framing Britney documentary to get Brit and Jan's sales up.

R20

What female singer of the last 30 years hasn't done this?

[quote] She's turned into Eartha Kitt!

I think you mean she's gained enough weight to turn into the Earth.

Control didn't hit #1 on the real chart, it was some streaming oldies sub-chart.

Here's the REAL chart. You'll notice Control is nowhere to be found in any of the 200 slots. However Thriller is #92.

Let me know when her waist makes a comeback.

I’m really starting to come around to the idea that if Michael had been more prolific Janet never would’ve had a career.

R27 Neither would La Toya, Rebbie or 3T. Maybe Jermaine since he can actually sing.

Janet is more of dancer and not much of a singer. I think most of us agree that her relationship with Michael is what opened up the door for her career. Starting with that Jackson Variety Show in 1976. She was mostly an actress after that and tried to do the teen pop albums to capitalize on her success on Fame. But those albums flopped and fired Joe Jackson as her manager.

Prince should be given credit as well because Janet sought to work with him but instead got his two ex-bandmates Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to produce her next album Control which was a concept album about a young woman taking control of her life. It had the Minneapolis sound and the music videos showcased her excellent dance skills and the rest was history.

I think Janet should be given credit for taking control of her career and coming up with concepts for each project. She reinvented herself each era up until All For You. Nepotism got her career started but I don't think it kept it going especially after Michael became such a weirdo. Janet was seen as the normal one in the family and was a sex symbol for years.

Even if Michael was more prolific I don't think he had the emotional maturity to grow as an artist. His lyrics were often simple and he used a lot of his trademarks and cliches. His music really peaked with Thriller and I think the spacing of his albums helped hide his weaknesses because the public was so starved for him. I prefer Janet's music because she sings about real adult topics and she did experiment with a lot of different sounds.

I agree. But Janet started to regress with All For You. With that her music started to sound like Mya's cast-offs.

What happened?

Rene left her, she started fucking Timberlake and then hooked up Jermaine Dupri. Fired Jam & Lewis and had Dupri produce her stuff. Janet was dickmatized

Is this broke-ass bitch still trying to sell her cheap knick-knacks on some eBay auction?

Thanks for the pic, OP. It's nice to see Monique Van Vooren still out and about. Here's another pic from a recent event.

Jam & Lewis were producers on All For You, Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. as well, though. So maybe Janet was just naturally coming to the end of her moment du jour?

^Actually, I'll clarify that, cause I'm just reading that All For You was the last album where she was in an exclusive contract with Jam & Lewis producing the majority if not all of the album. Still, it isn't a patch on the earlier albums, so I still feel that things couldn't have been maintained even if she had stayed with them for the most part.

[ quote] Here's the REAL chart. You'll notice Control is nowhere to be found in any of the 200 slots.

Surprising that no legacy female singers seem to be there whereas Beatles , Elvis , MJ , Prince are. or maybe i miss anyone?

2O Y.O. and Discipline were Jermaine Dupri hence why they sounded like generic 2000s R&B albums..

All For You and Damita Jo were in my opinion, above average. The dip in quality after Damita Jo was jarring.

Lewis and Jam are still producers listed on 20 Y.O. but Dupri is the main producer. Discipline is all Dupri and Darkchild. I think Janet's biggest muse was Rene because she was at her creative peak in the 90s. When they split she wanted to express her sexuality more openly. It's comparable to Mariah and Tony. Mariah went all sexual to indicate her freedom but like Janet she was aging and the audience got tired of it.

[quote] [R27] Neither would La Toya, Rebbie or 3T. Maybe Jermaine since he can actually sing.

Well, Rebbie was a one hit wonder and LaToya never really had any success. But Jermaine was scoring solo hits before the Jacksons disbanded and was continuing to do so before Thriller hit. I think Michael's success may have given him a small boost, but it was more likely that the Victory album and tour helped more. Jermaine sang lead on a lot of those songs and had something of a comeback in 84, lasting for another couple years.

Speaking of has-beens, is Shawn Mendes anywhere on that chart @R25?

[quote] Speaking of has-beens, is Shawn Mendes anywhere on that chart @[R25]?

Yes, his fourth #1 album in a row (out of four) is at #93. Right next to Thriller.

Still no Janet.

R39, Jermaine had a HUGE R&B hit in 1989 with the song 'Don't Take It Personal'. It went #1 R&B and was all over Urban Radio & BET at the time.

Thanks, Mrs. Mendes @R41.

If Janet didn't get a big music career. She may have just stuck to acting or went to college like her original game plan was.

Jody Watley, Pebbles, Shanice and Vanessa Williams may have had bigger pop careers to fill Janet's niche.

I had never heard anything from Damita Jo until last night (I kinda lost interest in her after The Velvet Rope for no reason except tastes changing), just checked out a few songs - there is some really catchy stuff there! I was quite surprised. I haven't listened to the album yet, but the bit I heard makes it sound in some ways more interesting than All For You. The only thing is the sex stuff is so boring by now and every song seems to be about it. It worked on janet, but is definitely overdone by now. Still, I was pleasantly surprised at how catchy I thought Damita Jo was so far.

Damita Jo had a lot of good songs like All Nite, SloLove (should have been a single!), Strawberry Bounce and I Want You. The issue is it's just too long and Janet does overdo the sex part. A lot of the aging divas in the 2000s went overboard with the sultry sexiness like Toni, Mariah and Kylie. Madonna on the other hand was still trying to act like a teenybopper.

Mariah also did the same mistakes as Janet trying too hard to be the sexy older woman which alienated a lot of her older fanbase

Kylie's cringey declaration that she reached her sexual peak

Damita Jo’s ‘Warmth’ is the best song about a blow job that I’ve ever heard.

No one has ever heard of Damita Jo. This is Jabba talking to itself.

R50 Thank you for doing your service 🙏

The last thing I remember was the Joni Mitchell song in the late 90s. After that, Janet's mainstream popularity really slid.

Probably because of the chicken grease.

if her head was cinched up any tighter with tape and that hat, it would pop off.

the bitch is old !

BLEACH SKIN AND NOSE JOBS

BLEACH SKIN AND NOSE JOBS

BLEACH SKIN AND NOSE JOBS

what fans is she thanking? she has no fans.

[quote]what fans is she thanking?

Probably these people, for starters.

Or them...

She gets booed off the stage often.....old white milk sow

Her old stylist said she almost bald from too much scalp stretching.

You better check these hoes Janbot/R57/R58! They better put respect on Janet's name!

OPs article is literally Janbot's wet dream

I heard she's broke.

Is she still being held capacity by her muslim husband

I heard she's broke too.

I wonder if it's true...

Of course broke in her case probably means only 2 mil in the bank.

Why did people start playing Control again that week?

Her “I’m a sex kitten and will whisper a lot on my CDs” phase has gone on too long. It’s too boring for anyone to care any more

r67, a witty Datalounger dubbed it, "Whisper Coo".

Pish, R25! Retard JABBA never lets facts get in the way!

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[quote] You better check these hoes Janbot/[R57]/[R58]! They better put respect on Janet's name!

Oh, you know I always do!

[quote] I heard she's broke.

You heard wrong, honey. Janet is wealthy and will always be wealthy. Stop listening to your trashy trailer park neighbors.

[quote] Why did people start playing Control again that week?

They didn’t “start playing it again.” It’s an iconic album. People are always sampling and remaking its songs. It went ITunes top 5 last year around the same time, but this year it went all the way to the top. Super Bowl always trends as Janet Jackson Day. And Justina Timberbitch also apologized to Janet and Britney via social media (wimp).

[quote] Her “I’m a sex kitten and will whisper a lot on my CDs” phase has gone on too long.

Well, just to educate you and end your ignorance, her latest album, 2015’s critically heralded, chart-topping Unbreakable, had nary a sex song on it.

Its #1 entry on the Billboard 200 chart made her one of only three artists to have a #1 album in each of the four decades since the 80s, and the only black artist to achieve this feat.

So basically because people streamed it a few times, it went to number one???

Appalling

[Quote] chart-topping Unbreakable,

It topped the charts for one quick second when it was first released.

And Pia Zadora has a Golden Globe

It topped the charts, making her one of only three artists to achieve the feat (Springsteen and Streisand are the other two).

And you will keep hating.

“Topping the charts” means a lot less now than it did back when Bruce and Babs did it

[quote]Bruce and Babs

...and Janet are the only artists with a #1 album in the '80s, the '90s, the 2000s and the 2010s, and you will learn to live with that reality, love it or hate it.

[quote] People are always sampling and remaking its songs. I

They are? Who?

Its working title was Unlistenable.

Meanwhile Madonna is bitching about patriarchy on her bathroom floor.

Haha at this point, Jabba/Janbot is a DL institution. It's a mental institution, but hey, it's something!

[quote]They are? Who?

Katy Perry sampled "What Have You Done For Me Lately" in her last tour during "Bon Appetit"

...as did Foxy Brown in one of her tracks...

Not a remake, per se, but when Donald Trump called Hillary a "Nasty woman" during the 2016 presidential election, it brought Janet's "Nasty" back into the zeitgeist and the track shot up the Spotify charts. The iconic "Janet, Miss Jackson if you're nasty," catchphrase was changed to "Hillary, Miss Clinton if you're nasty."

"Let's Wait Awhile" was covered on an episode of GLEE

...as was "Nasty"...

another "LWA" cover...

Swedish pop star Robyn excellently covered "When I Think of You"...

Whitney covered "Control" in concert in the '80s...

Prince was always covering "What Have You Done For Me Lately" in concert...

"What Have You Done For Me Lately" was sampled in "Joyful Joyful" from Sister Act 2...

The iconic Pleasure Principle video has tons of remakes on Youtube.

Loved this Tracy Ullman routine to an instrumental version of "When I Think of You"...

Solange and British producer Blood Orange created an excellent cover of Control's "He Doesn't Even Know That I'm Alive."

Not a Control track, but the Control-era "Making Love in the Rain" from Herb Alpert's 1987 Keep Your Eye on Me album - which featured Janet and Lisa Keith on vocals, was sampled on H.E.R.'s recent track "Damage"

What is it about pop stars that makes DataLounge so polarized? Is it possible to have one nuanced discussion on any of them? Look at how civil and cerebral the Lauryn Hill thread is. She's not a pop star. But go to any Madonna, Janet, Gaga or Britney thread and it's al name-calling and arguments. Is it because pop music appeals to the lowest common denominator and crazy people are more likely to be into it?

Jesus, Jabba is off its meds. Is the free clinic shut down, sweetie?

[quote] Why did people start playing Control again that week?

They didn't. It was a PR ploy, which is why you didn't see the album on any legitimate chart anywhere, just some bogus iTunes "pop" chart where a bunch of other has-beens' catalog titles were. Janet probably paid a publicist to get a bunch of interns to stream the album once each on Apple Music.

Janbot just shut shit down from R84-R97, as he always does. So, from now on whenever some clueless person asks who sampled or paid homage to Janet's Control, well, there's your answer.

[quote]What is it about pop stars that makes DataLounge so polarized? Is it possible to have one nuanced discussion on any of them?

To some extent I think people post humorously on Janet knowing it baits Janbot. We admit to her success back in the day, but her absence of any career for the past two decades is more fun to joke about.

Still in Michael’s shadow.

[quote]her absence of any career for the past two decades is more fun to joke about.

Absence? Surely you jest.

In the last 20 years, Janet released five albums, 3 of which debuted at #1, had a #1 NY Times Bestselling book, toured the world, won many awards and was inducted into the RNR Hall of Fame, was declared an MTV Icon, starred in several movies, and has continued to inspire the children. But you already knew that. And, you tried it (and failed).

And all five albums flopped, so did the book, the tours all collapsed an the awards were purchased by her husband.

Another Norma...

[quote] And all five albums flopped

All For You was a #1, won a Grammy and gave Janet her highest first-week sales ever

Damita Jo, despite her blacklisting, peaked at #2 and went multi-platinum

20 Y.O. also peaked at #2 and was Janet’s eighth consecutive platinum album

Discipline debuted at #1, had a top 20 lead off single and made her the only Jackson sibling with six #1 albums

[quote] so did the book

No. True You topped The NY Times Bestsellers list despite Les Moonves still actively attempting to destroy her career at the time

[quote]the tours all collapsed

Nope. Five tours since 2001 (all world tours except for one) and a successful run in Vegas.

[quote]the awards were purchased by her husband.

Keep dreaming. Janet was only married to Wissam from 2012-2017. Her (fifth) Grammy win and her RNR HOF induction did not occur within that time frame. But, you tried it AGAIN and failed.

*Unbreakable was another #1, topping the Billboard 200 despite little promo on Janet’s part and putting Janet in yet another record book.

And it was off the chart in four weeks. It hit #1 because it was given away by Uber drivers. Goddamn, Jabba, can you ever face facts?

Unbreakable hit #1 based off of pure hard copy sales and streams. The Uber thing was a promo tie-in for her tour, and it was weeks after the album was released. Don't you, R109, ever get tired of me making a complete ass out of you? Scratch that--you make an ass out of yourself every time you decide to put finger to keyboard for one of your stupid posts in every Janet thread. And I do mean EVERY Janet thread. But stay pressed. It's what you do best.

She looks drunk and bloated in OP's pic.

She's not drunk.

[quote] Don't you, [R109], ever get tired of me making a complete ass out of you?

When you manage to actually accomplish that, Jabba, I'll let you know.

LOL

Janet's CD 'Unbreakable' has produced a conversation about the ethics of marketing in the music industry. [Photo by Alexander Tamargo/Getty Images]"Janet Jackson's chart-topper this week was aided by the 30k units that were part of a ticket bundle for her tour, which explains why the album sold so well with virtually no airplay. The veteran artist and her wealthy husband, fashion mogul Wissam Al Mana, who financed the recording and underwrote her Rhythm Nation label, had shopped the album to the majors but got nary a nibble, enabling BMG to pick it up," the article claimed. It only got worse from there. Once the album started tumbling off the charts, a copy of Unbreakable was being given away with the sale of every single t-shirt and other concert souvenirs. Sales were reported as part of a bundle, which allowed the album to climb back up the charts, but several allegedly claimed there was no increase in the original price of the t-shirts. Some fans weren't intending to buy Unbreakable and were surprised about receiving a "free" CD.

"@JanetJackson Bought a tshirt at the #unbreakablesantabarbara show tonight got a free CD," tweeted Chef TK Kyle.

However, others who received the free Unbreakable CD were angry Janet Jackson unfairly used them to help her CD chart.

"I attended a show of hers at the Chicago Theater and bought a t-shirt. I didn't want a copy of her CD. But it was given to me anyway. That's all fine, but then the guy managing the souvenir stand admitted that the entire purpose of giving fans free CDs was so Janet's album could climb back up the charts. I left in disbelief, but did research and found out this is all true," wrote an alleged fan on Change.org, petitioning for Billboard to stop allowing chart manipulation tactics.

Then, when that didn't work, music industry site Showbiz411 reported that Janet Jackson now started giving away free CDs with the purchase of Uber rides. So, one wonders how an album charts if it is given away for free? It appears, according to Janet Jackson's website, Uber charges a $3.49 "service fee." The $3.49 service charge is just enough money for Billboard to count the exchange as an album sale. It's a desperate and dirty tactic that should be condemned not only from Billboard, but the record industry as a whole.

Don't you, Jabba, ever get tired of me making a complete ass out of you? Scratch that--you make an ass out of yourself every time you decide to put finger to keyboard for one of your stupid posts in every Janet thread. And I do mean EVERY Janet thread. But stay pressed. It's what you do best.

The truth is JanBot hates Janet Jackson. It absolutely loves posting wildly exaggerated nonsense about Janet's accomplishments and influence to bait people into posting the truth. A real fan would be happy with Janet's successes and not constantly try to invite unfavorable comparisons of her to other artists.

One more facelift on this one and she’ll have a beard.

Her next deal will be with Pzifer. Every antibiotic will come her a Janet CD.

What a freak occurrence. Hope the bitch enjoyed the fleeting few minutes it happened. It’s nearly completely unlikely to ever happen again.

[qiote]When you manage to actually accomplish that, Janbot, I'll let you know."

Faggot says what?

Poor R116, still miffed at having her ass handed to her. But, a fag is a fag is a butthurt fag, right?

Sorry R115, but if you think anything from Inquistitr.com or whatever it's called is the gospel, then I've got a shitload of wooden nickels to sell you. Unbreakable was a #1 album. Point blank, period, the end. That this fact bothers you so much is pathetic. Maybe you should seek treatment.

The fag at R113 was the one who created the Change.org petition, wasn't she? LMAO! Pressed bitches!

[quote]What a freak occurrence.

Um, no. Janet has a #1 album whenever she releases a new studio album, so...

[quote] Sorry [R115], but if you think anything from Inquistitr.com

Jabba, you quote the inquisitr all the time, as well as a bunch of other bullshit sites that mean nothing. So have several seats for your homophobic, fat ass. Maybe Janet will share her fried chicken with you.

^FFd for the racism.

^FF'd for being a homophobic cunt.

No denial by JanBot for the truth at R117. We see you, loser.

Jabba is at its trough. It's feeding time.

Janet is in her 70s, so she looks pretty good for a woman of that age.

Janet is only 62, R131.

Do you think Janet has ever consulted with Dr. Now from My 600 lb Life?

She really is starting to look like her mother. Can't bet the genes after all.

[quote]Janet is only 62, [R131].

Janet Jackson is 54, but you tried it.

Here's some really random and boring gossip. Back in the early 90s, when I was just out of high school, I was working at TGI Friday's in a south Minneapolis suburb. Janet was recording with JJ and TL at that time and they (Janet, JJ and TL) used to come into TGI Friday's on the regular with an entourage and insist upon sitting in the corner table in the window (no passersby were there, just a parking lot). They would always just order a bunch of stuff for the table and always always a few orders of the loaded baked potato skins.

We got all sorts of randos in there for some reason. I waited on Willie Aames there once too, in head to toe acid wash denim.

Man those were the days.. I used to go to after parties at Paisley Park sometimes too. Prince was a trip, man.

^That’s awesome.

She's had a big career.

Made more impressive by her lack of talent.

I just read on another message board that Janet is broke.

Queen of Pop? Go to the back of the line, bitch.

You kvetching queens inspired me to listen to The Velvet Rope for the first time in a while on my walk today. It’s still quality.

[quote]I just read on another message board that Janet is broke.

Mm-hm. It's a lie that you probably wrote. Be gone, bitch.

[quote]Queen of Pop?

Precisely.

R143 is a classic example of Jabba logic. Because some crazed fan titled a YouTube Video "Queen of Pop, Janet Jackson" then it must be true.

[Quote] What female singer of the last 30 years hasn't done this?

Hazell Dean?

The Queen of Pop Tarts

Nobody in mainstream culture has given two fucks about Janet Jackson in two decades. She's been an urban niche artist since the turn of the millennium.

[quote] Nobody in mainstream culture has given two fucks about Janet Jackson in two decades

In the last 20 years, Janet released five albums, 3 of which debuted at #1, had a #1 NY Times Bestselling book, toured the world, won many awards and was inducted into the RNR Hall of Fame, was declared an MTV Icon, starred in several movies, and has continued to inspire the children. But you already knew that. And, you tried it (and failed).

....

The charts don't mean as much as they did once the digital era started.

Right now Morgan Wallen has the #1 album.

Who?

After the physical media era ended and downloading/streaming became the norm, a wet fart could have a #1 song.

"All For You" was released a generation ago. People who were born when that album was released are now grown adults.

[quote] a wet fart

She was complicit in her brother's molestation of boys. She had to have known what was going on, yet did nothing. That's unforgivable.

Jabba's facts: Janet's albums were successful because they went to #1

The rest of the world's facts: Janet's albums were flops because even though they hit #1, they fell off the chart within a month and sold nothing.

MANdonana’s FLOPdna holds the record for fastest second-week plummet.

What is the faggot at R155 trying to express?

r148, all those wonderful things and she ends up being broke.

All of Janet’s 90s albums were huge smashes. All For You was a massive hit.

I’m tired of people pretending she wasn’t successful.

PS her .Janet album is the second best selling album from a female artist the year it was released. Stop trying to knock her.

Also, to the posters who keep on mentioning she was “old” trying to express her sexuality (and Mariah too), she (and Mariah) were in their 30s. You’re acting like they were what Madonna is now. No.

It’s totally normal for a woman to be sexual in her 30s. That’s usually when their peak sexuality kicks in, unlike men, where we peak in our teens and 20s. Women get more of a sexual drive as they age, men get less of one.

Agreed, R159. They’re just a bunch of OLD, envious, nelly, white queens.

[quote] [R148], all those wonderful things and she ends up being broke.

She’s not. But you most definitely are, living in your double-wide trailer in Apalachicola.

Janet asking some guy if he can swim after he asks her if she'd be worried that he might drown. I think she would tell most of you to jump over the railing.

Since CDs died charts have been irrelevant.

A number one means nothing.

I'm trying to imagine what would be the funniest brand Janet could team up with to hand out CDs with a purchase to get her numbers up.

Depends? Imodium?

[quote] I’m tired of people pretending she wasn’t successful.

No one does that. We just say she hasn't been successful for the last two decades. Which is true.

Janbot is an eldergay himself, which is funny because he's always harping on OLD queens.

No youngsters are rhapsodizing over Janet Jackson.

And nobody is arguing that she wasn't successful. She certainly was, but she's been irrelevant on the mainstream pop culture scene since the turn of the Millennium. She's been an urban niche artist ever since.

[quote] We just say she hasn't been successful for the last two decades.

And you’ve been disproven over and over and over.

[quote] Depends? Imodium

I think Madonna had depends on lock.

[quote] And you’ve been disproven over and over and over.

No, Jabba, we haven't. You've been caught in your lies and fantasies and exposed as the idiot and fool you are over and over and over.

[quote] No, Janbot, we haven't.

Oh, but you have, you stupid, diseased faggot. Time and time again.

Accept your name, Jabba. You are Jabba. Jabba Jabba Jabba.

^Faggo say what???

What's wrong, Janbot? You seem pressed about something.