Advice on Possible Job at Mormon Owned Company
Dilemma: I've had three excellent interviews for a great job opportunity at a company I've learned is owned by Mormons. The first was with the executive recruiter who thinks I'm perfect for the role.
The second interview with the CEO, who gave wonderful feedback on me to the recruiter.
The third was today with the CMO (also his brother in law), went well too. Except, he asked me what my family is like. It caught me off guard, knowing they aren't supposed to ask those type of questions. I gave a kind of vague answer about coming from a small, close family and then changed the topic. He then mentioned his sister is very involved with the company, and that it's very family-oriented.
After the call I Facebooked them all and that's when I discovered they're Mormons. The wife/sister being the most vocal, posting Jesus quotes and other Mormon related news stories. Nothing anti-gay but definitely Frau of the Highest Order.
So my fear is once they realize I'm a big homo married to another dude, they'll drop me as a candidate. But, why would they go through a recruiting agency if that would be an issue? (meaning they could just do their own search and weed out the "undesirables.")
I really want and NEED this job, and it pays extremely well. It's also work from home, so I wouldn't have to work with them in an office (they're in another state).
What should I do DL?? Am I being a big MARY! or is this cause for legitimate concern?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Friday at 3:33 AM|
I'd be concerned, OP. Seriously. Mormons are much more likely to hire their own, so I don't know how you got this far. Good luck!
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/19/2021|
Take the job if offered. If they start asking personal questions over email, shut that shit down. You are there to perform a service and get a check, not adhere to their nutjob cult.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||01/19/2021|
Sure, take their money. You don’t have to stay forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/19/2021|
Careful OP. Before you know it you'll be the new gay porn recruit.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/19/2021|
Mormons, huh? You'll have many chances at DL sex in the office washroom. I hope you're a top.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/19/2021|
You've not given salient information that would let us provide informed suggestions - type of business, size, who your manager would be.
Mormons aren't one hive-mind, although they pretend to be. BUT you've been clued into the religiosity already, at least of one critter there who is not being advised by the others to chill. Mormons are not confrontational with non-Mormons so you won't ever know where you really stand.
If you went through a recruiter you could seek counsel there. Or you could contact your main connection at the company and say that you love the company, job, mission, family-focus, work, reputation (whatever), but you wanted to share off the record something about your own family life. And say you're gay.
Do you want to be uncomfortable? Do you want to play with homophobes? Do you think they don't know you're queer? Do you wish a weird unspoken thing to be part of your work life?
No. You don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/19/2021|
I think you should tell them your status after they offer you something. That way you can sue them for discrimination if things get messy later.
LDS especially these days, are difficult to suss out. Some are quite liberal and accepting, but many are not. It's unusual for a Mormon to quote Jesus. They usually quote from their own scriptures and the various blather of their leadership.
As a person who worked for a Mormon-family-owned company, I do not recommend. You will likely be dumped on and treated like a second-class citizen.
All said and done, if you need the job, give it a try. You're working from home so you won't have to deal with them as much. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
I concur with R5. But I'm done with my Mormon-fucking days.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/19/2021|
I had a Mormon boss once. He fucked his secretary. Everybody knew.
I do warn you—he called for 7:00 AM staff meetings. Who does that?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/19/2021|
Since they are so family oriented you’ll rarely be expected to work overtime
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/19/2021|
No fucking way would I take this job.
The way some of you just sell out for a paycheck... gross.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/19/2021|
Ugh I wish I hadn't learned this information. The good news is that I haven't found any pro-Trump posts on their social media, but i suppose Mormons probably hate him too.
It was going so well! It was the interview today and the question about my family that creeped me out. I've never had a problem mentioning my husband in other job interviews, but this one made me feel like I was back in the closet.
Re: the company-- they are a manufacturer and are creating this new role to sell directly to consumer on their website. The pay is almost $200k after expected bonuses, which is more than I've ever made. Too good to pass up, but then it's not me making that final decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/19/2021|
The final decision might be yours.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/19/2021|
Do you think he was trying to set you up with his sister? Here's the thing I have gleaned from not very much experience working with Mormons, so take it cum grano salis. They are exceedingly polite and unbelievably hard-working. They may very well be institutionally anti-gay but they would never hurt your feelings. They'll probably wait until you leave the room. (Which, BTW, I'm OK with!)
I think you'd be set for a while, OP, and you're right: they wouldn't go through a recruiter who could back up your claims of discrimination (unless. . . they're connected somehow). That's good pay and would be difficult to reject. Never hide that you have a husband and just keep it professional. ^^Shut that shit down^^ R2 is right. Keep us posted!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/19/2021|
Take the job if offered. Sock away as much money as possible. If it gets uncomfortable give your notice. I could preach about how we should be out and proud, but the fact is people need to make a living. I'm sure after a while at the job you will figure them out. Usually Mormon's want to give jobs to other Mormon's, so the fact they are considering you means you made an impression OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||01/19/2021|
I was going to say run until you said it's work from home. Take it, take the 200K and move on if it doesn't work out.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||01/19/2021|
I worked for a company founded by Mormons (it’s been public for years). Never had any issues. Would return if asked to do so. Apart from all the silly stereotypes out there, there is a strong sense of family within the company which was instilled by the founders. There is a strong ethos of take care of your associates.
I do get it, it’s fun to bash that which you don’t understand (I do it too).
|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/19/2021|
Dude! Inside access to sweet Mormon ass!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||01/19/2021|
[quote]The good news is that I haven't found any pro-Trump posts on their social media, but i suppose Mormons probably hate him too.
Wow, you are really fucking gullible.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||01/19/2021|
Ok, the plot thickens. Using my slick stalking skills, I found out one of their SIX adult children is GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY! Like super flaming Jeffrey Starr gay.
And they don't appear to have disowned him, so that's a good sign.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||01/19/2021|
Did they ask you to name any Marie Osmond songs?
I mean, if they've figured out you're gay, at least they'll want to know that you're one of "their" gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/19/2021|
It all depends on your goals OP. If you get offered the job it seems likely that's the job you'll have for your entire tenure. You'll have to leave for promotions or advancement. If that's not a deal breaker for you, go for it. Word of warning, don't give them any reason to get rid of you. Once they have a better idea of who you are they might look for an excuse depending on the HR rules of the state, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||01/19/2021|
Here's the deal from someone who knows: they will wait until it really hurts, and then they will stab you in the back. Repeatedly. With a smile on their faces.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/19/2021|
So they didn't want to hook you up with their daughter. They are looking for a husband for their son.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/19/2021|
The most important thing is that if you need the job, you need the job. I would take heart that the interviews went pretty well. I'd be more concerned if this is a small family-run business, where all sorts of weird drama can occur and family members get away with murder, rather than that they're Mormon. But hopefully working from home will shield you from any goofiness that may be going on. Save your money (and at 200K I would hope it's not too hard) in case you feel you just have to leave.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/19/2021|
I once rejected a Mormon job candidate because he was Mormon. I recognize now that it was not morally or legally defensible, but it was the mid-90s, the job was in NYC (the candidate was from Utah) and we had a VERY diverse team that worked together closely and often had to travel together,
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/19/2021|
R26 Well, I guess that made it OK.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/19/2021|
You need the job, it's a pandemic and it's work from home. TAKE the job, save all the money, give it your very best shot and hope for the best while remaining realistic. Worst case scenario, you sue their asses off in a year.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/19/2021|
LOL always love your insight, rescue-chick
|by Anonymous||reply 29||01/19/2021|
Sorry to say this but I've never known a Mormon who wasn't homophobic in the worst way possible (we're all evil and reject their truth, which is the only truth). It will not work out in the long run.
They are as bad as scientologists and all other cults. Don't take the job unless you are prepared to lie your ass off.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/19/2021|
They have two strikes against them. In a family owned company you will never go higher than a certain level since you're not family, so if moving steadily up the ladder is your career trajectory, forget it there. If they're all religious Mormons they'll very likely turn against you once they find out you're gay, even if they hire you and find out later. That one guy asking you about your family very likely was because he suspected you are gay.
Now, if they don't offer you the job, the first thing I'd do is report them to the equal opportunity commission. That guy asking you about your family committed a definite labor law violation.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/19/2021|
If you bothered to read the thread R31 you would have known the OP stated, through his sleuthing, they have a gay son.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/19/2021|
R31 the problem is it's very difficult to prove a discrimination case against a prospective employer. They can simply say they decided on a candidate with different qualifications, etc.
Sucks but that's how it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||01/19/2021|
I know how hard it is to prove discrimination, but at the least he'd get them investigated and they would be cautioned to never ask such questions again.
And no R32 I did not read through the whole thread. I had other more pressing things to do at the time. And just because they have a gay son doesn't mean they're perfectly open with hiring LGBTs.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||01/19/2021|
At a job interview the panel chairman asked me to to say if I had been affected by the Harry Potter craze at the time. I suppose they wanted to know if I had children but were too worried to ask outright.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/19/2021|
Whatever you do, OP, don’t rave about the (excellent) series BIG LOVE to them.
Mormons hated that show, squealing, “We’re not like that!”
|by Anonymous||reply 36||01/19/2021|
Not all Mormons agree with their Church doctrine on homosexuality. They have varying degrees of religiosity.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/19/2021|
Following on from R36 no need to mention MormonBoyz either: they also hate that.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/19/2021|
What are the chances their gay son is reading this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/19/2021|
R39 pretty low I would say: DL is really very, very marginal and increasingly so.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/19/2021|
Ease them into it after starting work. Tell them you're a big fan of 'Housewives of Salt Lake City' and want to start a Zoom chat group during coffee breaks at work. If that goes well, move on to the Atlanta Housewives.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/19/2021|
I worked for a Mormon-owned company in the mid-80s. My Mormon boss appreciated my work and I thought he was great. Then he was promoted and another Mormon took his place. This man was coldly and deeply suspicious of me. He would ask what I did on the weekends and if I shared an apartment with another person. A few months later, one of the secretaries called me after work to inform me this guy hired a private investigator to follow me around. A few months later I was fired without explanation.
I couldn't rely on governmental protections at the time. I talked to few lawyers who refused to help me. So, I moved on. I know I'm not alone in talking about this experience. It wasn't just Mormon employers you had to hide your personal life from.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||01/19/2021|
[quote] this guy hired a private investigator to follow me
|by Anonymous||reply 43||01/19/2021|
R39 the son is like 20 years old, I doubt he's on DL.
And, from what I could tell, is a vapid, self-absorbed social media "Influencer" who is too busy being "fabulous, hunty!" to spend time on here.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||01/19/2021|
You don’t want to work in a place that doesn’t want you.
Make sure they understand you are married to a man and see how they react.
You don’t want to be the guy they start treating like shit because they know they can’t fire you afterwards
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/19/2021|
Take the job! You work from home. No one will be in your personal business. Don’t be a chump
|by Anonymous||reply 46||01/19/2021|
I would run so far away from this.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||01/19/2021|
There's no reason the company needs to be all up into your personal life. You'll be there to do a fucking job, and that's it. Since you'll be at a remote site, I'd take the job and bank the money.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/19/2021|
I've been at my current job for three years, and have yet to add any personal touches to my desk (photos, etc). I've seen way too many "walks of shame" of freshly fired coworkers cleaning out their workspaces, sobbing as they throw out artwork their children made, giving away overly watered potted plants, carrying what remained in a white file box from Staples.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/19/2021|
^^^oops sorry wrong thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||01/19/2021|
Just wear some magic underwear and think good thoughts.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||01/19/2021|
1. You need the job. You’ll work from home.
2. You’ll be working for people who are deeply homophobic, as in, they don’t believe you are deserving of the same rights
3. They’ll be paying you very well, and...see point #1.
4. Mormons are hard to figure out but the few that I’ve known have been outwardly kind and accepting, not just “tolerant.”
I would take the job, but I wouldn’t hide that I’m gay. I wouldn’t really talk about my personal life at all. It is very easy to remain cordial, professional and impersonal while working from home. It’s much harder when you’re forced to be in person with the fraus and their birthday cakes and Pampered Chef parties and Girl Scout cookie sales. If it’s even that kind of job. If you find it intolerable and it compromises your integrity, you can quit. But I would give it a chance.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||01/19/2021|
I agree with the poster above about family-owned businesses. My husband worked for two, small to medium sized family owned and run ad agencies. At best, you will always be on the outside and never in line for the perks (promotions, etxc; at worst, you may be a scapegoat for what goes wrong. The Mormon thing is a whole other issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||01/20/2021|
R48, I've been at a job and "tried to just do the job". I'm a normal, professional, friendly person. I was let go within a few months because I didn't fit the company culture. I wasn't ????/chatty enough with my superiors and colleagues. It was a temp/contract hire so they could do whatever they want. They just didn't like me. (Marketing at a large health care company full of mean girls). It wasn't enough that I just came in and did the job, or tried to. I was happy to leave though.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/21/2021|
OP here. Just got an email from the recruiter, letting me know the client wants to meet me in person by having me come down to the factory/headquarters in Virginia. Ugh. I think the jig will be up once they meet me. I'm not a flaming, caftan-wearing MARY! but they'd have to be blind to not at least suspect. And of course the biggest tell will be if they ask me about my "wife" , especially if I keep it vague by referring to him as "my spouse" and "they/them."
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/21/2021|
You know what OP, you grab that brass ring. $200k is real money and once you get there, you will be in demand for other positions at that level. I was the only gay guy out at my college and one of the only at my business school because I was being "true to myself" and you know what, I've had enough of out and proud at all costs.
Go down to Virginia. Wear those black shoes with the grey suit (because brown shoes with a blue suit would be way too fashion forward). Or hell, wear Dockers. Use "we" to refer to your partner in sentences such as "we live in a leafy suburb with good schools and top ranked soccer team". Or just full on lie and talk about your wife and 3 kids (use the details from a sister or friend's life so you don't lose track of your lies). Wear a ring to the interview.
You will be working from home and they do not care about your life. They will never follow up except for that frau wife you mentioned who I'm sure plans the office Christmas party. Just don't plan on a promotion, keep in touch with that recruiter and get a new gig in 2 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||01/21/2021|
I worked w a Mormon guy who used to hire escorts on every Buz trip.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/21/2021|
Sometimes the “tell me about your family” is a way to screen out candidates who have young kids or aging parents at home to care for and thus aren’t available to work long hours and travel.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||01/21/2021|
True r59 but in this case it's obvious they want to know if he's a "family man" and not some promiscuous homosexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||01/21/2021|
Well they want me to meet them in person at their factory /headquarters in Virginia next Friday. It's between me and one other candidate. Really need the job but not expecting it once the see how gay I am.
But hey maybe I can take in the sights while I'm there.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/26/2021|
I worked for a mormon. He was a cheap, racist bastard who enjoyed cheating all his employees
|by Anonymous||reply 62||01/26/2021|
Nothing is ever as bad as it seems to be - your mind is being very self defeating and pessimistic. Just go try out for the job interview and see what happens. Your whole life doesn't depend on this job. Calm down and stop thinking the worst!
|by Anonymous||reply 64||01/26/2021|
I worked at the University of Utah in SLC in 2006. I think everyone except me was Mormon. They were very cliquish, but were always trying to get me to go to picnics and other church activities. There was a gay student worker who was very flamboyant and actually sat at the front desk painting his nails. They wouldn't even acknowledge him (and he didn't care!).
|by Anonymous||reply 65||01/26/2021|
Hey all I need some last minute advice: they invited me to come interview with the Executive team at their factory/headquarters next Friday. It's a 7 hour drive or train ride. Would need to stay at least one night in hotel. Is it normal to expect them to reimburse for travel expenses? It's not going to cause me financial hardhship, but I think it's a big ask on their part, especially during a goddamned pandemic.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||01/27/2021|
I agree, OP. They should pay your travel expenses.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||01/27/2021|
Yes, if they invited you knowing you were long distance, they should pay. It's like a date. They ask, they pay. I would broach it with 'will your assistant be contacting me with travel details for my trip?' or something
|by Anonymous||reply 68||01/27/2021|
That's what's I thought! I'm emailing my recruiter now to get more details.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||01/27/2021|
You can’t run away fast enough in your floor length prairie dress!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||01/27/2021|
I would not take the job. The CMO was asking the questions he asked for a reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||01/27/2021|
Absolutely, they should pay. The grad schools I applied to for my Ph.D. program paid for me to visit them, and they weren't even for-profit entities!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||01/28/2021|
Not taking a job because the boss is Mormon... that's discrimination.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||01/28/2021|
I work in an industry dominated by LDS members. Friends have moved to Utah to be a part of it, and have been very surprised that no one, no one, (even those they knew before hand) has ever invited them over for dinner or to socialize in any way. (They are moderate to liberal non-LDS), and plan to leave as soon as they can figure it out. Everyone in Utah is VERY polite but also very cold and calculating to those who aren't in the church. You might be ok at work in a large corporate firm (where your co-workers will include liberal LDS members, at least in SLC) but not, probably, in a family business.
Everyone who does any kind of recruiting or job interviewing knows you're not allowed to ask about family. Can't ask, do you have to leave on time to pick up your children from work? Can ask: This job from time to time requires longer days or extra time at work on weekends, etc. Are yo able to do that?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||01/28/2021|
Has OP had his interview yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||02/03/2021|
Don't do it. Especially if you are looking for a career. You will never get promoted if you are not one of them. Especially if they find out you are queer.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||02/03/2021|
R75 I'm on my way now, taking the train. Interview is tomorrow.
I NEED this job, been out of work for two years now. Yes I realize I have little chance of being promoted (all of the exec positions are family members), but I plan to continue looking for something else anyway, while saving as much of the generous salary as I can.
I'm not as fearful about the gay issue as I was, since one of their sons is a flaming queen, and another guy I'd be working closely with has some Salt Lake City Pride pics on his Facebook, with comments thanking him for being a great "ally." But it still makes me uncomfortable and I'm going to try my best to be as ambiguous as possible.
Wish me luck DLers!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||02/04/2021|
Good luck, OP! You’ve got this.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||02/04/2021|
Suck it up, buttercup. Sonetimes you have to tone down the gayness and just do your job. I should know.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||02/04/2021|
I wish you the very best of luck, OP! If you want this job then I'm pulling for you. Let us know how it goes.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||02/04/2021|
Just resign yourself to being the office slut, fucking all of the closeted men I'm sure must work there.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||02/06/2021|
I'm excited by your progress OP! Hope it goes well.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||02/06/2021|
Don’t leave us hanging OP! We need to know if all your hand-wringing over whether you would deign to take a very well paid, work from home job when you’ve been out of work for two whole years was worth it!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||02/06/2021|
It went very well! I was a little concerned and intimidated by the giant portrait of Jesus in the CEO's office, but he was very down to earth and didn't give me any bad vibes at all. He even cussed a few times which I thought was a big no-no for Mormons, and in front of JESUS no less!
I was prepared to be vague/evasive about my spouse, but it never even came up. In fact, at the end, he told me to talk it over with "whomever in your life is involved in helping make decisions." Oh, he also mentioned how same sex couples are a big customer base for them and should be marketed to (sorry, I don't want to say what the product is), and that kind of blew me away.
So, he didn't outright offer me the job (yet), but said they'd be making a decision next week. I REALLY want this job, I hope I get it. There's one other candidate, so I need to find out who they are and cut the brakes on their car ;-)
Thanks to all of you bitches for your support!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||02/06/2021|
First off, the portrait of Jesus is tacky af.
Second of all, congrats OP, it sounds that the interview went really well! It is very good money and you deserve that paycheck, hunty. My fingers are crossed for you and keep us up to date!
|by Anonymous||reply 86||02/06/2021|
Regarding the "same sex couples" remark, are you sure they don't already suspect?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||02/06/2021|
R87 ha! It wouldn't surprise me if they suspect. I'm not flaming but I'm not the most macho, either. Maybe his gay son has changed his thinking on gays, if he had a negative opinion to begin with.
He did seem like he just wants to make money so if the gays have some to spare, may as well sell to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||02/06/2021|
r85 "whomever in your life is involved in helping make decisions" is Mormon for "we know you're a big mo"
|by Anonymous||reply 89||02/06/2021|
This isn’t real. I thought was originally, but not anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||02/14/2021|
R91 That you, Angela Fletcher
|by Anonymous||reply 92||02/14/2021|
I learned on Friday I didn't get it . MOTHER FUCKERS. Apparently none of the three candidates the executive recruiter put forward got it. Reason: didn't fit the "culture."
When he told me that I lost my shit. Said "what exactly does that mean?? Does it have anything to do with the large portrait of Jesus in his office? I referred to my spouse but I'm sure they figured out I meant my husband."
Recruiter said no, that wasn't it, but couldn't give me a definitive answer what that meant.
I'm pissed. Not only because my time investment but this actually cost me hundreds of dollars to go down there. I should have gotten confirmation that they would pay my expenses, so that's my fault. Although, if they weren't going to pay them anyway, what would my options have been?
I'm tempted to give the name of the company so my fellow DLers can leave bad reviews, but probably for the best that I don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||02/14/2021|
That's kind of gross they brought you all the way to the final interview and used "not a culture fit" as the reason why you didn't get it? Sounds like you dodged a bullet, which i commented earlier (run, away). sorry though OP, as it got your hopes up. You sound like a great candidate and best of luck to whatever you do next. DL will always be here for you, because we're a whore, darling.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||02/16/2021|
Mormons hire mormons. I heard it's very hard to find work in Utah unless you are a Mormon.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||02/16/2021|
OP this sucks but I have feeling this may be for the best in the long run. It would suck to constantly have to walk on eggshells due their crazy religious beliefs. I am sure you will land something that will both provide and allow you to keep your sanity.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||02/16/2021|
"Family-based company" is code word for - we don't like the gays, but I can't ask that. I've had several friends who had interviewers drop that line in interviews.
RUN! You'll never feel comfortable there - and they will never treat you like you should be treated.
This happens more often than people want to admit.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||02/16/2021|
Take the job and document everything for the inevitable lawsuit.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||02/16/2021|
R93 Bill the company for your expenses and forward it to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||02/16/2021|
TLDR=Take the job,/document. Mormons are nice, polite, smart, sober people, for the most part. If they were strict about their hiring practices you wouldn't have made it this far and more importantly, neither would their nelly brother.
I had this experience 30 years ago. I worked for a SF company that merged with one in Salt Lake. I went to corporate to lead a program for a week, which they loved. I was always coy/coldly professional and very "don't ask don't tell" with clients but with the merger, I knew they would find out eventually and I decided to out myself. Around the third day after lunch one of the guys said "So, do you have a girlfriend? Or since your from SF maybe I should ask if you have a boyfriend. HAHA". Since I was prepared for the question I said, without missing a beat, as a matter of fact I do, he's a pilot with United. He's coming out this weekend and we're going to Park City. I can't wait, I hear it's beautiful up there. How about you? Do you have a girlfriend? Have you ever been up there? I'm not a good skier... bla bla bla. I wanted to say it as part of another conversation.
It was all fine and we continued. At the afternoon break, one of the participants, an older lady, was crying and being consoled by a couple of others. I overheard her say "...but he seems like such a nice person:". I was like, "what happened?", and one of the guys pulled me aside. She was crying because I'm going to hell for eternity. Isn't that sweet? A nice old lady crying about my soul. It actually made me verklempt. So sweet, fucking crazy but sweet. That's what it's like working for Mormons.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||02/16/2021|
Mormonism is a cult. The CEO controls what every Mormon thinks feels does and who they relate to.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||02/16/2021|
R100 and r103 I think you misunderstood; they didn't offer me the job, citing "cultural fit."
|by Anonymous||reply 104||02/16/2021|
I'm sorry to hear, OP. But maybe this is a bullet dodged. Small, family-run company looking for "cultural fit" (which I'd bet means "people who look and act like us")? Too stingy to pay a candidate's travel bills? I wouldn't be surprised if it would be a miserable place to work for.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||02/16/2021|
You're in for a world of problems. op. Religious groups are bad news. I'm surprise they are not looking for a church volunteer to this job
|by Anonymous||reply 106||02/16/2021|
I'm sorry you didn't get the job, OP, but something better will come along.
It's their loss and your gain.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||02/16/2021|
Anytime this is said at a job interview, run the other way:
- Family values, family run, family oriented, the team members "are like family", we consider ourselves a family, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||02/22/2021|
Sorry to hear this OP. I was following your thread interest.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||Last Friday at 2:51 AM|
R8 I think you and I may have worked for the same company.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Friday at 3:33 AM|