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Advice on Possible Job at Mormon Owned Company

Dilemma: I've had three excellent interviews for a great job opportunity at a company I've learned is owned by Mormons. The first was with the executive recruiter who thinks I'm perfect for the role.

The second interview with the CEO, who gave wonderful feedback on me to the recruiter.

The third was today with the CMO (also his brother in law), went well too. Except, he asked me what my family is like. It caught me off guard, knowing they aren't supposed to ask those type of questions. I gave a kind of vague answer about coming from a small, close family and then changed the topic. He then mentioned his sister is very involved with the company, and that it's very family-oriented.

After the call I Facebooked them all and that's when I discovered they're Mormons. The wife/sister being the most vocal, posting Jesus quotes and other Mormon related news stories. Nothing anti-gay but definitely Frau of the Highest Order.

So my fear is once they realize I'm a big homo married to another dude, they'll drop me as a candidate. But, why would they go through a recruiting agency if that would be an issue? (meaning they could just do their own search and weed out the "undesirables.")

I really want and NEED this job, and it pays extremely well. It's also work from home, so I wouldn't have to work with them in an office (they're in another state).

What should I do DL?? Am I being a big MARY! or is this cause for legitimate concern?

by Anonymousreply 110Last Friday at 3:33 AM

I'd be concerned, OP. Seriously. Mormons are much more likely to hire their own, so I don't know how you got this far. Good luck!

by Anonymousreply 101/19/2021

Take the job if offered. If they start asking personal questions over email, shut that shit down. You are there to perform a service and get a check, not adhere to their nutjob cult.

by Anonymousreply 201/19/2021

Sure, take their money. You don’t have to stay forever.

by Anonymousreply 301/19/2021

Careful OP. Before you know it you'll be the new gay porn recruit.

by Anonymousreply 401/19/2021

Mormons, huh? You'll have many chances at DL sex in the office washroom. I hope you're a top.

by Anonymousreply 501/19/2021

You've not given salient information that would let us provide informed suggestions - type of business, size, who your manager would be.

Mormons aren't one hive-mind, although they pretend to be. BUT you've been clued into the religiosity already, at least of one critter there who is not being advised by the others to chill. Mormons are not confrontational with non-Mormons so you won't ever know where you really stand.

If you went through a recruiter you could seek counsel there. Or you could contact your main connection at the company and say that you love the company, job, mission, family-focus, work, reputation (whatever), but you wanted to share off the record something about your own family life. And say you're gay.

Do you want to be uncomfortable? Do you want to play with homophobes? Do you think they don't know you're queer? Do you wish a weird unspoken thing to be part of your work life?

No. You don't.

by Anonymousreply 601/19/2021

I think you should tell them your status after they offer you something. That way you can sue them for discrimination if things get messy later.

LDS especially these days, are difficult to suss out. Some are quite liberal and accepting, but many are not. It's unusual for a Mormon to quote Jesus. They usually quote from their own scriptures and the various blather of their leadership.

As a person who worked for a Mormon-family-owned company, I do not recommend. You will likely be dumped on and treated like a second-class citizen.

All said and done, if you need the job, give it a try. You're working from home so you won't have to deal with them as much. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

I concur with R5. But I'm done with my Mormon-fucking days.

by Anonymousreply 701/19/2021

I had a Mormon boss once. He fucked his secretary. Everybody knew.

I do warn you—he called for 7:00 AM staff meetings. Who does that?

by Anonymousreply 801/19/2021

Since they are so family oriented you’ll rarely be expected to work overtime

by Anonymousreply 901/19/2021

No fucking way would I take this job.

The way some of you just sell out for a paycheck... gross.

by Anonymousreply 1001/19/2021

Ugh I wish I hadn't learned this information. The good news is that I haven't found any pro-Trump posts on their social media, but i suppose Mormons probably hate him too.

It was going so well! It was the interview today and the question about my family that creeped me out. I've never had a problem mentioning my husband in other job interviews, but this one made me feel like I was back in the closet.

Re: the company-- they are a manufacturer and are creating this new role to sell directly to consumer on their website. The pay is almost $200k after expected bonuses, which is more than I've ever made. Too good to pass up, but then it's not me making that final decision.

by Anonymousreply 1101/19/2021

The final decision might be yours.

by Anonymousreply 1201/19/2021

Do you think he was trying to set you up with his sister? Here's the thing I have gleaned from not very much experience working with Mormons, so take it cum grano salis. They are exceedingly polite and unbelievably hard-working. They may very well be institutionally anti-gay but they would never hurt your feelings. They'll probably wait until you leave the room. (Which, BTW, I'm OK with!)

I think you'd be set for a while, OP, and you're right: they wouldn't go through a recruiter who could back up your claims of discrimination (unless. . . they're connected somehow). That's good pay and would be difficult to reject. Never hide that you have a husband and just keep it professional. ^^Shut that shit down^^ R2 is right. Keep us posted!

by Anonymousreply 1301/19/2021

Take the job if offered. Sock away as much money as possible. If it gets uncomfortable give your notice. I could preach about how we should be out and proud, but the fact is people need to make a living. I'm sure after a while at the job you will figure them out. Usually Mormon's want to give jobs to other Mormon's, so the fact they are considering you means you made an impression OP.

by Anonymousreply 1401/19/2021

I was going to say run until you said it's work from home. Take it, take the 200K and move on if it doesn't work out.

by Anonymousreply 1501/19/2021

I worked for a company founded by Mormons (it’s been public for years). Never had any issues. Would return if asked to do so. Apart from all the silly stereotypes out there, there is a strong sense of family within the company which was instilled by the founders. There is a strong ethos of take care of your associates.

I do get it, it’s fun to bash that which you don’t understand (I do it too).

by Anonymousreply 1601/19/2021

This will end in tears.

by Anonymousreply 1701/19/2021

Dude! Inside access to sweet Mormon ass!

by Anonymousreply 1801/19/2021

[quote]The good news is that I haven't found any pro-Trump posts on their social media, but i suppose Mormons probably hate him too.

Wow, you are really fucking gullible.

by Anonymousreply 1901/19/2021

Ok, the plot thickens. Using my slick stalking skills, I found out one of their SIX adult children is GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY! Like super flaming Jeffrey Starr gay.

And they don't appear to have disowned him, so that's a good sign.

by Anonymousreply 2001/19/2021

Did they ask you to name any Marie Osmond songs?

I mean, if they've figured out you're gay, at least they'll want to know that you're one of "their" gays.

by Anonymousreply 2101/19/2021

It all depends on your goals OP. If you get offered the job it seems likely that's the job you'll have for your entire tenure. You'll have to leave for promotions or advancement. If that's not a deal breaker for you, go for it. Word of warning, don't give them any reason to get rid of you. Once they have a better idea of who you are they might look for an excuse depending on the HR rules of the state, etc.

by Anonymousreply 2201/19/2021

Here's the deal from someone who knows: they will wait until it really hurts, and then they will stab you in the back. Repeatedly. With a smile on their faces.

by Anonymousreply 2301/19/2021

So they didn't want to hook you up with their daughter. They are looking for a husband for their son.

by Anonymousreply 2401/19/2021

The most important thing is that if you need the job, you need the job. I would take heart that the interviews went pretty well. I'd be more concerned if this is a small family-run business, where all sorts of weird drama can occur and family members get away with murder, rather than that they're Mormon. But hopefully working from home will shield you from any goofiness that may be going on. Save your money (and at 200K I would hope it's not too hard) in case you feel you just have to leave.

by Anonymousreply 2501/19/2021

I once rejected a Mormon job candidate because he was Mormon. I recognize now that it was not morally or legally defensible, but it was the mid-90s, the job was in NYC (the candidate was from Utah) and we had a VERY diverse team that worked together closely and often had to travel together,

by Anonymousreply 2601/19/2021

R26 Well, I guess that made it OK.

by Anonymousreply 2701/19/2021

You need the job, it's a pandemic and it's work from home. TAKE the job, save all the money, give it your very best shot and hope for the best while remaining realistic. Worst case scenario, you sue their asses off in a year.

by Anonymousreply 2801/19/2021

LOL always love your insight, rescue-chick

by Anonymousreply 2901/19/2021

Sorry to say this but I've never known a Mormon who wasn't homophobic in the worst way possible (we're all evil and reject their truth, which is the only truth). It will not work out in the long run.

They are as bad as scientologists and all other cults. Don't take the job unless you are prepared to lie your ass off.

by Anonymousreply 3001/19/2021

They have two strikes against them. In a family owned company you will never go higher than a certain level since you're not family, so if moving steadily up the ladder is your career trajectory, forget it there. If they're all religious Mormons they'll very likely turn against you once they find out you're gay, even if they hire you and find out later. That one guy asking you about your family very likely was because he suspected you are gay.

Now, if they don't offer you the job, the first thing I'd do is report them to the equal opportunity commission. That guy asking you about your family committed a definite labor law violation.

by Anonymousreply 3101/19/2021

If you bothered to read the thread R31 you would have known the OP stated, through his sleuthing, they have a gay son.

by Anonymousreply 3201/19/2021

R31 the problem is it's very difficult to prove a discrimination case against a prospective employer. They can simply say they decided on a candidate with different qualifications, etc.

Sucks but that's how it is.

by Anonymousreply 3301/19/2021

I know how hard it is to prove discrimination, but at the least he'd get them investigated and they would be cautioned to never ask such questions again.

And no R32 I did not read through the whole thread. I had other more pressing things to do at the time. And just because they have a gay son doesn't mean they're perfectly open with hiring LGBTs.

by Anonymousreply 3401/19/2021

At a job interview the panel chairman asked me to to say if I had been affected by the Harry Potter craze at the time. I suppose they wanted to know if I had children but were too worried to ask outright.

by Anonymousreply 3501/19/2021

Whatever you do, OP, don’t rave about the (excellent) series BIG LOVE to them.

Mormons hated that show, squealing, “We’re not like that!”

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by Anonymousreply 3601/19/2021

Not all Mormons agree with their Church doctrine on homosexuality. They have varying degrees of religiosity.

by Anonymousreply 3701/19/2021

Following on from R36 no need to mention MormonBoyz either: they also hate that.

by Anonymousreply 3801/19/2021

What are the chances their gay son is reading this thread?

by Anonymousreply 3901/19/2021

R39 pretty low I would say: DL is really very, very marginal and increasingly so.

by Anonymousreply 4001/19/2021

Ease them into it after starting work. Tell them you're a big fan of 'Housewives of Salt Lake City' and want to start a Zoom chat group during coffee breaks at work. If that goes well, move on to the Atlanta Housewives.

by Anonymousreply 4101/19/2021

I worked for a Mormon-owned company in the mid-80s. My Mormon boss appreciated my work and I thought he was great. Then he was promoted and another Mormon took his place. This man was coldly and deeply suspicious of me. He would ask what I did on the weekends and if I shared an apartment with another person. A few months later, one of the secretaries called me after work to inform me this guy hired a private investigator to follow me around. A few months later I was fired without explanation.

I couldn't rely on governmental protections at the time. I talked to few lawyers who refused to help me. So, I moved on. I know I'm not alone in talking about this experience. It wasn't just Mormon employers you had to hide your personal life from.

by Anonymousreply 4201/19/2021

[quote] this guy hired a private investigator to follow me

Creepy.

by Anonymousreply 4301/19/2021

R39 the son is like 20 years old, I doubt he's on DL.

And, from what I could tell, is a vapid, self-absorbed social media "Influencer" who is too busy being "fabulous, hunty!" to spend time on here.

by Anonymousreply 4401/19/2021

You don’t want to work in a place that doesn’t want you.

Make sure they understand you are married to a man and see how they react.

You don’t want to be the guy they start treating like shit because they know they can’t fire you afterwards

by Anonymousreply 4501/19/2021

Take the job! You work from home. No one will be in your personal business. Don’t be a chump

by Anonymousreply 4601/19/2021

I would run so far away from this.

by Anonymousreply 4701/19/2021

There's no reason the company needs to be all up into your personal life. You'll be there to do a fucking job, and that's it. Since you'll be at a remote site, I'd take the job and bank the money.

by Anonymousreply 4801/19/2021

I've been at my current job for three years, and have yet to add any personal touches to my desk (photos, etc). I've seen way too many "walks of shame" of freshly fired coworkers cleaning out their workspaces, sobbing as they throw out artwork their children made, giving away overly watered potted plants, carrying what remained in a white file box from Staples.

Sad, really.

by Anonymousreply 4901/19/2021

^^^oops sorry wrong thread!

by Anonymousreply 5001/19/2021

Just wear some magic underwear and think good thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 5101/19/2021

1. You need the job. You’ll work from home.

2. You’ll be working for people who are deeply homophobic, as in, they don’t believe you are deserving of the same rights

3. They’ll be paying you very well, and...see point #1.

4. Mormons are hard to figure out but the few that I’ve known have been outwardly kind and accepting, not just “tolerant.”

I would take the job, but I wouldn’t hide that I’m gay. I wouldn’t really talk about my personal life at all. It is very easy to remain cordial, professional and impersonal while working from home. It’s much harder when you’re forced to be in person with the fraus and their birthday cakes and Pampered Chef parties and Girl Scout cookie sales. If it’s even that kind of job. If you find it intolerable and it compromises your integrity, you can quit. But I would give it a chance.

by Anonymousreply 5201/19/2021

I agree with the poster above about family-owned businesses. My husband worked for two, small to medium sized family owned and run ad agencies. At best, you will always be on the outside and never in line for the perks (promotions, etxc; at worst, you may be a scapegoat for what goes wrong. The Mormon thing is a whole other issues.

by Anonymousreply 5301/20/2021

^etc.

by Anonymousreply 5401/20/2021

R48, I've been at a job and "tried to just do the job". I'm a normal, professional, friendly person. I was let go within a few months because I didn't fit the company culture. I wasn't ????/chatty enough with my superiors and colleagues. It was a temp/contract hire so they could do whatever they want. They just didn't like me. (Marketing at a large health care company full of mean girls). It wasn't enough that I just came in and did the job, or tried to. I was happy to leave though.

by Anonymousreply 5501/21/2021

OP here. Just got an email from the recruiter, letting me know the client wants to meet me in person by having me come down to the factory/headquarters in Virginia. Ugh. I think the jig will be up once they meet me. I'm not a flaming, caftan-wearing MARY! but they'd have to be blind to not at least suspect. And of course the biggest tell will be if they ask me about my "wife" , especially if I keep it vague by referring to him as "my spouse" and "they/them."

by Anonymousreply 5601/21/2021

You know what OP, you grab that brass ring. $200k is real money and once you get there, you will be in demand for other positions at that level. I was the only gay guy out at my college and one of the only at my business school because I was being "true to myself" and you know what, I've had enough of out and proud at all costs.

Go down to Virginia. Wear those black shoes with the grey suit (because brown shoes with a blue suit would be way too fashion forward). Or hell, wear Dockers. Use "we" to refer to your partner in sentences such as "we live in a leafy suburb with good schools and top ranked soccer team". Or just full on lie and talk about your wife and 3 kids (use the details from a sister or friend's life so you don't lose track of your lies). Wear a ring to the interview.

You will be working from home and they do not care about your life. They will never follow up except for that frau wife you mentioned who I'm sure plans the office Christmas party. Just don't plan on a promotion, keep in touch with that recruiter and get a new gig in 2 years.

by Anonymousreply 5701/21/2021

I worked w a Mormon guy who used to hire escorts on every Buz trip.

by Anonymousreply 5801/21/2021

Sometimes the “tell me about your family” is a way to screen out candidates who have young kids or aging parents at home to care for and thus aren’t available to work long hours and travel.

by Anonymousreply 5901/21/2021

True r59 but in this case it's obvious they want to know if he's a "family man" and not some promiscuous homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 6001/21/2021

Well they want me to meet them in person at their factory /headquarters in Virginia next Friday. It's between me and one other candidate. Really need the job but not expecting it once the see how gay I am.

But hey maybe I can take in the sights while I'm there.

by Anonymousreply 6101/26/2021

I worked for a mormon. He was a cheap, racist bastard who enjoyed cheating all his employees

by Anonymousreply 6201/26/2021

Marriott?

by Anonymousreply 6301/26/2021

Nothing is ever as bad as it seems to be - your mind is being very self defeating and pessimistic. Just go try out for the job interview and see what happens. Your whole life doesn't depend on this job. Calm down and stop thinking the worst!

by Anonymousreply 6401/26/2021

I worked at the University of Utah in SLC in 2006. I think everyone except me was Mormon. They were very cliquish, but were always trying to get me to go to picnics and other church activities. There was a gay student worker who was very flamboyant and actually sat at the front desk painting his nails. They wouldn't even acknowledge him (and he didn't care!).

by Anonymousreply 6501/26/2021

Hey all I need some last minute advice: they invited me to come interview with the Executive team at their factory/headquarters next Friday. It's a 7 hour drive or train ride. Would need to stay at least one night in hotel. Is it normal to expect them to reimburse for travel expenses? It's not going to cause me financial hardhship, but I think it's a big ask on their part, especially during a goddamned pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 6601/27/2021

I agree, OP. They should pay your travel expenses.

by Anonymousreply 6701/27/2021

Yes, if they invited you knowing you were long distance, they should pay. It's like a date. They ask, they pay. I would broach it with 'will your assistant be contacting me with travel details for my trip?' or something

by Anonymousreply 6801/27/2021

That's what's I thought! I'm emailing my recruiter now to get more details.

by Anonymousreply 6901/27/2021

You can’t run away fast enough in your floor length prairie dress!

by Anonymousreply 7001/27/2021

I would not take the job. The CMO was asking the questions he asked for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 7101/27/2021

Absolutely, they should pay. The grad schools I applied to for my Ph.D. program paid for me to visit them, and they weren't even for-profit entities!

Good luck!

by Anonymousreply 7201/28/2021

Not taking a job because the boss is Mormon... that's discrimination.

by Anonymousreply 7301/28/2021

I work in an industry dominated by LDS members. Friends have moved to Utah to be a part of it, and have been very surprised that no one, no one, (even those they knew before hand) has ever invited them over for dinner or to socialize in any way. (They are moderate to liberal non-LDS), and plan to leave as soon as they can figure it out. Everyone in Utah is VERY polite but also very cold and calculating to those who aren't in the church. You might be ok at work in a large corporate firm (where your co-workers will include liberal LDS members, at least in SLC) but not, probably, in a family business.

Everyone who does any kind of recruiting or job interviewing knows you're not allowed to ask about family. Can't ask, do you have to leave on time to pick up your children from work? Can ask: This job from time to time requires longer days or extra time at work on weekends, etc. Are yo able to do that?

by Anonymousreply 7401/28/2021

Has OP had his interview yet?

by Anonymousreply 7502/03/2021

Don't do it. Especially if you are looking for a career. You will never get promoted if you are not one of them. Especially if they find out you are queer.

by Anonymousreply 7602/03/2021

R75 I'm on my way now, taking the train. Interview is tomorrow.

I NEED this job, been out of work for two years now. Yes I realize I have little chance of being promoted (all of the exec positions are family members), but I plan to continue looking for something else anyway, while saving as much of the generous salary as I can.

I'm not as fearful about the gay issue as I was, since one of their sons is a flaming queen, and another guy I'd be working closely with has some Salt Lake City Pride pics on his Facebook, with comments thanking him for being a great "ally." But it still makes me uncomfortable and I'm going to try my best to be as ambiguous as possible.

Wish me luck DLers!

by Anonymousreply 7702/04/2021

Good luck, OP! You’ve got this.

by Anonymousreply 7802/04/2021

Suck it up, buttercup. Sonetimes you have to tone down the gayness and just do your job. I should know.

by Anonymousreply 7902/04/2021

I wish you the very best of luck, OP! If you want this job then I'm pulling for you. Let us know how it goes.

by Anonymousreply 8002/04/2021

Well?

by Anonymousreply 8102/06/2021

Just resign yourself to being the office slut, fucking all of the closeted men I'm sure must work there.

by Anonymousreply 8202/06/2021

I'm excited by your progress OP! Hope it goes well.

by Anonymousreply 8302/06/2021

Don’t leave us hanging OP! We need to know if all your hand-wringing over whether you would deign to take a very well paid, work from home job when you’ve been out of work for two whole years was worth it!

by Anonymousreply 8402/06/2021

It went very well! I was a little concerned and intimidated by the giant portrait of Jesus in the CEO's office, but he was very down to earth and didn't give me any bad vibes at all. He even cussed a few times which I thought was a big no-no for Mormons, and in front of JESUS no less!

I was prepared to be vague/evasive about my spouse, but it never even came up. In fact, at the end, he told me to talk it over with "whomever in your life is involved in helping make decisions." Oh, he also mentioned how same sex couples are a big customer base for them and should be marketed to (sorry, I don't want to say what the product is), and that kind of blew me away.

So, he didn't outright offer me the job (yet), but said they'd be making a decision next week. I REALLY want this job, I hope I get it. There's one other candidate, so I need to find out who they are and cut the brakes on their car ;-)

Thanks to all of you bitches for your support!

by Anonymousreply 8502/06/2021

First off, the portrait of Jesus is tacky af.

Second of all, congrats OP, it sounds that the interview went really well! It is very good money and you deserve that paycheck, hunty. My fingers are crossed for you and keep us up to date!

by Anonymousreply 8602/06/2021

Regarding the "same sex couples" remark, are you sure they don't already suspect?

by Anonymousreply 8702/06/2021

R87 ha! It wouldn't surprise me if they suspect. I'm not flaming but I'm not the most macho, either. Maybe his gay son has changed his thinking on gays, if he had a negative opinion to begin with.

He did seem like he just wants to make money so if the gays have some to spare, may as well sell to them.

by Anonymousreply 8802/06/2021

r85 "whomever in your life is involved in helping make decisions" is Mormon for "we know you're a big mo"

by Anonymousreply 8902/06/2021

Time for an update, OP!

by Anonymousreply 9002/14/2021

This isn’t real. I thought was originally, but not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 9102/14/2021

R91 That you, Angela Fletcher

by Anonymousreply 9202/14/2021

I learned on Friday I didn't get it . MOTHER FUCKERS. Apparently none of the three candidates the executive recruiter put forward got it. Reason: didn't fit the "culture."

When he told me that I lost my shit. Said "what exactly does that mean?? Does it have anything to do with the large portrait of Jesus in his office? I referred to my spouse but I'm sure they figured out I meant my husband."

Recruiter said no, that wasn't it, but couldn't give me a definitive answer what that meant.

I'm pissed. Not only because my time investment but this actually cost me hundreds of dollars to go down there. I should have gotten confirmation that they would pay my expenses, so that's my fault. Although, if they weren't going to pay them anyway, what would my options have been?

I'm tempted to give the name of the company so my fellow DLers can leave bad reviews, but probably for the best that I don't.

by Anonymousreply 9302/14/2021

That's kind of gross they brought you all the way to the final interview and used "not a culture fit" as the reason why you didn't get it? Sounds like you dodged a bullet, which i commented earlier (run, away). sorry though OP, as it got your hopes up. You sound like a great candidate and best of luck to whatever you do next. DL will always be here for you, because we're a whore, darling.

by Anonymousreply 9402/16/2021

Mormons hire mormons. I heard it's very hard to find work in Utah unless you are a Mormon.

by Anonymousreply 9502/16/2021

I’m sorry, OP

by Anonymousreply 9602/16/2021

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by Anonymousreply 9702/16/2021

OP this sucks but I have feeling this may be for the best in the long run. It would suck to constantly have to walk on eggshells due their crazy religious beliefs. I am sure you will land something that will both provide and allow you to keep your sanity.

by Anonymousreply 9802/16/2021

"Family-based company" is code word for - we don't like the gays, but I can't ask that. I've had several friends who had interviewers drop that line in interviews.

RUN! You'll never feel comfortable there - and they will never treat you like you should be treated.

This happens more often than people want to admit.

by Anonymousreply 9902/16/2021

Take the job and document everything for the inevitable lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 10002/16/2021

R93 Bill the company for your expenses and forward it to them.

by Anonymousreply 10102/16/2021

TLDR=Take the job,/document. Mormons are nice, polite, smart, sober people, for the most part. If they were strict about their hiring practices you wouldn't have made it this far and more importantly, neither would their nelly brother.

I had this experience 30 years ago. I worked for a SF company that merged with one in Salt Lake. I went to corporate to lead a program for a week, which they loved. I was always coy/coldly professional and very "don't ask don't tell" with clients but with the merger, I knew they would find out eventually and I decided to out myself. Around the third day after lunch one of the guys said "So, do you have a girlfriend? Or since your from SF maybe I should ask if you have a boyfriend. HAHA". Since I was prepared for the question I said, without missing a beat, as a matter of fact I do, he's a pilot with United. He's coming out this weekend and we're going to Park City. I can't wait, I hear it's beautiful up there. How about you? Do you have a girlfriend? Have you ever been up there? I'm not a good skier... bla bla bla. I wanted to say it as part of another conversation.

It was all fine and we continued. At the afternoon break, one of the participants, an older lady, was crying and being consoled by a couple of others. I overheard her say "...but he seems like such a nice person:". I was like, "what happened?", and one of the guys pulled me aside. She was crying because I'm going to hell for eternity. Isn't that sweet? A nice old lady crying about my soul. It actually made me verklempt. So sweet, fucking crazy but sweet. That's what it's like working for Mormons.

by Anonymousreply 10202/16/2021

Mormonism is a cult. The CEO controls what every Mormon thinks feels does and who they relate to.

by Anonymousreply 10302/16/2021

R100 and r103 I think you misunderstood; they didn't offer me the job, citing "cultural fit."

by Anonymousreply 10402/16/2021

I'm sorry to hear, OP. But maybe this is a bullet dodged. Small, family-run company looking for "cultural fit" (which I'd bet means "people who look and act like us")? Too stingy to pay a candidate's travel bills? I wouldn't be surprised if it would be a miserable place to work for.

by Anonymousreply 10502/16/2021

You're in for a world of problems. op. Religious groups are bad news. I'm surprise they are not looking for a church volunteer to this job

by Anonymousreply 10602/16/2021

I'm sorry you didn't get the job, OP, but something better will come along.

It's their loss and your gain.

by Anonymousreply 10702/16/2021

Anytime this is said at a job interview, run the other way:

- Family values, family run, family oriented, the team members "are like family", we consider ourselves a family, etc.

by Anonymousreply 10802/22/2021

Sorry to hear this OP. I was following your thread interest.

by Anonymousreply 109Last Friday at 2:51 AM

R8 I think you and I may have worked for the same company.

by Anonymousreply 110Last Friday at 3:33 AM
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