Dump is DONE - Part 2

Articles of Impeachment draft:

William Barr, Trump’s former Attorney General, accused the President of “orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress” and called his conduct a “betrayal of his office” in response to pro-Trump riots that took place at the US Capitol on Wednesday.

So how many of the children wrote a report about their field trip to the Capitol?

Kinzinger calls for 25th Amendment to be invoked.

Trump "shows no remorse" for inciting an insurrection and is plotting revenge against all of his allies. - CNN

Since Friday is the traditional firing day, what time tomorrow should Mike Pence expect to receive his pink slip?

A few weeks ago I responded to a thread stating that even though I think Trump is a criminal, I did not want to see him prosecuted for the good of our nation.

I have since reconsidered my view based on his treasonous behavior yesterday. Trump has destroyed whatever respect and credibility this great nation once had. I am ashamed of what the world thinks of us now. I still have trouble comprehending how we got this point.

Just for moment think about how our founding fathers would feel after witnessing Trump destroy the nation they fought so hard to establish that was built on democracy and the will of the people.

Trump thought he could do incite people to do criminal acts and that he could just use blanket pardons for himself and his enablers as a "get out of jail free" card. He must be freaking at the thought he could be removed from office prematurely before being able to issue pardons for himself and his inner circle to prevent future prosecution.

Indeed, R11.

At this point I want him tried in a court of law and sentenced to capital punishment which is the proper punishment for treason. We the people deserve accountability from our elected officials.

Ron Wyden asking for the 25th:

AOC asking for the 25th, or impeachment:

Get his ass.

Sen Jeff Markley joins Kinzinger:

This is like a scene from a fucking movie:

[quote]PLEASE GODS, LET HIM BE REMOVED PREMATURELY.

Thus spake the womb of Mary Anne MacLeod Trump

Breaking: Maryland Republican Gov. Larry Hogan calls for Trump to resign or be removed from office.

"Enough is enough. Enough of the lies. Enough of the hate. Enough of the total dysfunction."

So much for the "they'd never Impeach/25th now, it'd be too embarrassing" poster from the previous thread.

It doesn't GET anymore embarrassing than yesterday. Swift and decisive repudiation of Trump is the only way for the government to save face. Should it have happened years ago? Of course.

But I'll take what I can get; we cannot risk another 14 days of unchecked Trump.

[quote] It doesn't GET anymore embarrassing than yesterday.

And it doesn’t get anymore dangerous or insane.

Amen Sylvia R28

“Thank you all.”

Heh, this cokehead motherfucker just doesn’t know what’s coming.

Love that Biden brought up BLM just now.

Tom Nichols:

Just for reference, Trump will still be in control of the nuclear arsenal for as many days as the Cuban Missile Crisis lasted.

And we almost didn't make it through that.

R35: They need to change those codes stat!

Sen. Blumenthal calls for the 25th

Megs McCain is also calling for the 25th

Sylvia is just upset at me because he tried sockpuppeting and it didn't work.

I never said *I* thought it was too embarrassing to go for the 25th, and I'm sick and tired of people like r28 trying to derail threads by focusing on personal attacks, and other DLers like r30 joining in on some petty personal beef when they don't even know what's going on.

As I said, the chances of the 25th being invoked are slim, even less likely now than they were when SylviaFowler started calling me names on the first thread a couple hours ago. One of the reasons the chances are so slim is because the government doesn't like to do anything extreme or that will make them look bad, not unless they have to. I stand by it.

They’re “betting on” his impeachment.

Pelops I is on live and is ready to move forward with impeachment!

Pelosi live:

Don't pick at your scabs r39 or they'll never get any better.

Which 8 members of the cabinet would agree to the 25th?

Mnuchin, Pompeo, Miller, Rosen, Bernhardt, Perdue, Ross, Scalia, Azar, Carson, Chao, DeVos, Wolf, Wilkie, Brouillette?

Chao resigned (effective Jan 11) and Wolf just got kicked out by Trump.

I don't see more than maybe four of them agreeing to it, and that's if Pence has the balls to go for it in the first place, which he likely doesn't.

[quote]Pelosi asks Pence to use the 25th, says her caucus is otherwise prepared to impeach.

I am proud of how Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have all responded to the events of yesterday. They have been clear, succinct, and unequivocal in their condemnation of this bastard.

This is like the ending of a telenovela.

If you don't like pettiness and being called names, why are you on DL?

"They don't like to do anything extreme," but the impeachment articles Have. Been. Drawn. Up. Some members of Congress clearly aren't following your guidelines.

Pelosi recites St. Francis prayer again! 🙏🏼

[quote]even though I think Trump is a criminal, I did not want to see him prosecuted for the good of our nation

What good does it do our nation for criminals in the highest places not to be removed and prosecuted? It's more the opposite.

Pelosi is not playing.

Tweet's gone, R51.

Americans are finally waking up! And I must say Fuck You to all of Dumps apologists on several threads. I'm more disgusted by them than the Negate!

Go Nancy!

Meant Magats

“A complete tool of Putin this President is.”

Get that big bitch, Nance!

[quote] And I must say Fuck You to all of Dumps apologists on several threads

They've been awfully quiet the past few days, haven't they?

They tend to be doing the "Nancy sucks" or "I'm a concerned Democrat who thinks impeachment is wrong" thing lately, R57. Lots of 'em, sadly.

Trump could and should be removed from office today. There are already enough votes in House to impeach him. To convict, 17 Republican senators are needed. After yesterday, I believe they'll sign on. Allowing Trump to remain president is far too dangerous.

[quote]Pelops I [/quote]

She's not queen yet!

I usually criticize her, but I am simply ADORING Nancy today.

“The folly for no reason whatsoever.”!!!

R62 😂🤣😂🤣

A MAGA relative was posting last night on my sister's fb that the rioters were actually "Antifa," left-wingers trying to discredit the Trump supporters. She supported her claim with photos of some of them, including the Minotaur guy, at alleged BLM events. Republicans are completely deluded; they just can't be trusted in adult society anymore.

It is simply criminal that a man who tried to pull a fucking coup is sitting in the people’s house.

Pelosi says the House Sergeant at Arms has resigned after yesterday, calls for the chief of the Capitol police to also resign.

Where is Dump anyway. Is he hiding like the Bunker Bitch that he is?

Trump fled to the White House as the rioters and insurrectionists he incited marched on Congress—as he had instructed them to do.

Now he is fleeing to Camp David as the Cabinet discusses the 25th Amendment and Congress circulates an Article of Impeachment.

A coward to the end.

Pelosi:

Please tell me they are seriously talking about 25 or impeachment? I have been gone all day.

[quote]"I am calling for the resignation of the chief of the Capitol Police...I have received notice from Mr. Irving," the House Sergeant at Arms, that he is submitting his resignation, says Pelosi.

[quote]"He hasn't even called us since this happened," says Pelosi of the Chief of Police.

R71 YES.

I’ve developed quite a crush on Nancy. I could listen to her pray for and direct impeachment proceedings for hours.

R74 Same!

They are, r71! Pelosi has said Pence and the cabinet need to invoke the 25th or the House is going to start impeachment proceedings. She said she expects Pence to get back to her today.

Yes, R71. Schumer called for impeachment if Pence doesn't invoke the 25th. All day other Reps and Senators, mostly Democrats (except for DL fave Adam Kinzinger) have been saying the same. Now Nancy P. Some reps have drawn up articles. Some support from the business community too, I believe.

AP: President Trump’s role in inciting violence at the Capitol is prompting some lawmakers to urge his removal from office through the 25th Amendment. Here's how that process works.

Pelosi: Trump is deadly to our democracy and our people. He needs to go now.

Chamber of Commerce might help cinch it. Please contact them.

What is Ivanka doing at this moment?

People are coming after the Dumptards.

Cheeto and his people are planning something.

Wealthy donors need to contact their senators and demand they contact cabinet members to invoke the 25th amendment.

If we have any substantial donors of bundlers here, your voices matter.

Twitch has suspended his account

I cannot believe that Dump Junior Twitter video above. Why is the media not airing this? It totally looks like they had set up a party tent and Jr and Kimmy are coked out of their mind, dancing. WTF? Definitely planned and complicit. Unbelievable!

HOLY SHIT -- Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Congress will IMPEACH trump if he's not immediately removed by the 25th Amendment. LET'S GOOOO!!!!

He's literally being ERASED from the Internet right now!@

The stock market needs to crash...that will destroy Trump, he will nothing to brag about.

Has Ivanka or Jared weighed in yet?

Ivanka posted (and deleted) a tweet yesterday calling the mob "patriots" and then posted a NEW post calling for no violence.

I hope this kills her plans to run for election in Florida.

More egregious than the Capitol storming party is the song, "Gloria" played while watching the monitors.

[quote] I cannot believe that Dump Junior Twitter video above. Why is the media not airing this? It totally looks like they had set up a party tent and Jr and Kimmy are coked out of their mind, dancing. WTF? Definitely planned and complicit. Unbelievable!

R85 I’m telling you, it’s like a scene straight out of Scarface. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so fucking creepy. Gloria playing just adds to the creep factor

Jesus, R20. That's horrible.

Agree r85, absolutely astonishing to see that, I'm so glad they were too stupid (or too hopped up) to realize it looked bad. They posted that themselves, it wasn't even leaked.

The 25th amendment means that Trump has the option to resign or be impeached, basically.

It also means that he is immediately removed from power and then there's four days of President Pence by default, and if he says fuck no to that, Congress has to impeach and convict to get him out longer than the four days.

We must reclaim "Gloria" from those evil cretins!!

There isn’t going to be the 25th amendment

And Pence is not a hero for doing the bare minimum yesterday

He belongs in prison for crimes against humanity and genocide. He was in charge of the covid response. 360k deaths and counting. An American genocide.

Has Tiffany weighed in yet?

Are the K-pop stans moving on this?

They can help get him removed. Don't underestimate their organizing and mobilizing ability.

In the video at R20 I couldn't figure out who the plastic blonde was until she turned toward the camera at the end and it was Ivanka. She looks really creepy from the side.

Schumer said he'd fire the Senate Sergeant at Arms as soon as he was Senate Majority Leader, but it looks like he doesn't have to do that after all.

R96 INCREDIBLE.

r97 Tiffany posted a happy birthday message to Eric at the same time as the riots were happening.

DO we know that the horrible video at R20 was taken while the Capitol invasion was going on?

[quote] What is Ivanka doing at this moment?

Something feckless, no doubt.

I can't find Quinn Cummings' tweet from yesterday right now but it was directed @ Ivanka and went something like this: "unlike your original chin or your first boob job, sedition is forever."

R103 They are watching the Capitol invasion live while being filmed as evidenced in the video.

As feared, Pence doesn't have the balls to invoke the 25th. He didn't even have the guts to answer the phone when Chuck and Nancy called!

Pence won't invoke the 25th Amendment - he's waiting for the Republican Noise Machine to spread enough propaganda to give Republicans more excuses to resist it. Pence still has this fantasy that he's going to be President someday and he still seems to want to appeal to the Trump voters rather than what's good for the country. Cynics.

Harris is live.

Meanwhile, the dumb fat one is now her mouthpiece on Twitter.

her father's mouthpiece^^

BTS Army on DL, what are stans doing right now to get on this?

I expect Pelosi will have to impeach and force the Senate to take it up, which will destroy a lot of political careers when they either vote to convict or they abstain/vote against it.

The idea of a censure being enough (as some have floated) is ridiculous.

R103, based on Jr's comments in the second video, I'm almost positive it is.

r109 it's ridiculous how she manages to sound insulted and pretentious about "the President of the United States" being banned from Facebook and Twitter. "HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO MY FATHER THE PRESIDENT!"

If the family had ANY smarts at all they would shut the fuck up.

Right now BTS Army (their stans) are coming down hard on fellow stans who support Trump. You can't be BTS Army and MAGA; incompatible.

One thing I feel good about is knowing that the Dumps - all of them - are shitting bricks right now. They’ve never had to endure such scrutiny, criticism, and condemnation.

What are upper-middle class voters saying? Are they as disgusted as most everyone? They're the ones who matter. Propertied types.

I can't believe a CNN host said Hawley is trying to cover his ass. She's ripping those Religious senators.

I'm loving it!!

^^REPIG SENATORS

Lindsay Graham is holding a conference. I'm shocked he's not golfing with Trump at the moment.

From the first thread:

[quote] Trump is on his way to Camp David. I read on TWITTER so take it for what it's worth, that they are moving Pence there too because he is under threat from Trumpers because they think this is all his fault. Someone also posted that the trumpers think that Trump going to Camp David is code for something. I don't think this is over.

[quote] Has Tiffany weighed in yet?

Tiffany weighs WAY in. Soo-ee!

My favorite part of P-E Biden's speech was the new word he just invented:

Democra-sissy.

Fuck Zuckerberg Part 834934

I saw that earlier R121 but I don't understand it. Trump isn't in danger, Pence is, and Pence is in danger BECAUSE of Trump, so I don't understand why both will be at Camp David for safety.

We'll see what happens but I suspect Pence won't be wherever Trump is, but who knows.

Bernie Sanders: A number of Administration officials are resigning in protest to Trump’s horrific acts of sedition yesterday. Not good enough! The Vice President and cabinet members must invoke the 25th amendment NOW and remove Trump from office before he incites more violence and chaos.

After all the things I've DONE for that man!@

R124 Ha!

Dump is going to be an unwashable stain on all of these bastards forever!

Gee, where will they begin

r10 The problem is so much deeper, bigger than just "oh, we have a really weird and bad President." Today a poll indicated that half of Republicans approve of the assault on the capitol yesterday. The woman how was killed, a veteran, thought that Biden was part of an international child sex slavery ring. The problem is not politics and racism, it's sanity.

I also thought, "well, for the purpose of healing and moving forward, don't prosecute Trump after he leaves office." Maybe we can have a "reconciliation commission"

But the cancer is too deep... the cure needs to be stronger. There HAS to be repercussions for yesterday. Impeachment now... and prosecution after he leaves office. It must be done.

R129 This Bitch.

In the video at R20, what's onscreen is the rally before the Capitol invasion, not the Capitol, so I wonder if this was taken just before Trump's speech. Jr's references to "fighting" are generally about the "fight" to "audit the vote" (i.e. overturn the election)—including the Capitol invasion, which he probably knew was going to happen, but this was not necessarily when it was underway.

[quote] But the cancer is too deep... the cure needs to be stronger. There HAS to be repercussions for yesterday. Impeachment now... and prosecution after he leaves office. It must be done.

Exactly. We’re beyond chemotherapy and medication. It’s time for excision.

It's possible the video is before Trump's speech, but they're all excited and surely all know he's about to incite the insurrection in the speech itself, and also put the crosshairs on Pence, so being excited about the "fight" even at THAT point is pretty damning.

[quote] it's ridiculous how she manages to sound insulted and pretentious about "the President of the United States" being banned from Facebook and Twitter. "HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO MY FATHER THE PRESIDENT!"

Bluto plainly labours under the delusion there's any money left for the will.

R132 Listen, we have aides and staff who were inside the White House with Dump when the insurrection occurred and they’ve come forward and revealed that he was “happy” and “cheering it on” and that it scared them.

R132 At the rally where Rudy called for "trial by combat" and Trump asked the terrorists to march to the capitol and "be strong" to stop the electoral college certifcation. Where Don Jr says "be a hero, not a zero...!!" Fight for Trump! Stop the congress! I am going to be in your backyard!!!

Criminal.

Is it possible that Pence is already president? That Trump has secretly resigned? Maybe that's why no action on the 25th yet today. They wouldn't know what to say!

Pence could be president (acting president) if he could just do it. He desperately wants to be president - he can pretend to be presidential this way.

R136, I don't doubt for a minute that Trump was happy with the insurrection he incited; I just want some accuracy about what stage the video shows because I want to post it with some context. Either way it's nauseating.

[quote]Since Friday is the traditional firing day, what time tomorrow should Mike Pence expect to receive his pink slip?

The VP cannot be fired.

[quote]Being a Trumper is going to be akin to being a Nazi.

And why would that be a problem?

R138 The certification of the electoral college needed to presided over by the VP. So as of 3:00 am this morning, he was not president.

Per Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC, Mike Pence is now banned from the White House.

Get them, Dan!

BREAKING (CNN): Pelosi believes there is sufficient support in the House to impeach Trump a second time.

Can you actually believe this fucking shit????????

Sen Gary Peters

Incredible. How is this even allowed.

NY Times: Here is a list of the administration officials who have resigned since a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Wednesday.

If VP were to successfully invoke 25th amendment, Trump would no longer have the power to pardon (himself or others), as his Art. II powers would transfer to Pence

R85- I was thinking the same thing- It is incredibly compelling evidence- Trump, Whorevanka, Titties, and Little Jr. standing there watching the television as it unfolds. It is truly reprehensible.

Pence’s chance to be president is now, this 2 weeks. He should take it.

NYT: Trump plans to pardon himself.

Invoking Art. 25 is Pence's only (slim) chance to recover for 2024, by which time more will have been uncovered about these past 4 years.

@RepPaulMitchell (now an independent) tells me “President Trump should step down or the 25th amendment should be invoked.”

Mother’s on dress barn.com picking out her inaugural habit.

Mother Pence is angling to bring back Betty's Republican style.

Is he really going to get away with all of this? Really? Why is it that the worst offenders get away with everything? Fuck, man. Fucking remove his ass.

NYAG is waiting

Can you imagine what the cabinet and VP's inaction will mean if something even more horrific happens?

R159 He’s not going to get away with it. Don’t you notice how the calls to have him removed are increasing by the hour?

I can't watch it when they replay footage. It makes me sick.

Remember also that because it happened in DC, where (basically) all crimes are federal crimes, Trump is currently in a position to pardon any of the rioters who are arrested and convicted (even preemptively I believe).

This is an excellent argument for DC statehood.

How many Republicans are calling for his removal? Only Kinzinger? Are they just waiting to see how the wind blows?

Yeah Dems gotta move on DC statehood ASAP in the next session. This probably wouldn't have happened if DC were a state.

Sen. Chris Van Hollen

When is the House going to act on impeachment? Monday?

DC statehood would also allow them to have their own National Guard rather than having to wait for other states to send theirs.

FWIW, despite my animosity towards Cuomo I have to give him credit for proactively send New York’s national guard to DC for the next couple of weeks. I’d link but Crain’s is beyond a paywall.

DC statehood is a priority for the new Congress.

Sen. Durbin

This just in: Trump suspended forever from MySpace.

Impeachment is better than removal by the 25th. It would prevent him from ever holding federal office again. And he can be impeached even after his current term ends. But of course there will never be enough Republicans to do it, just as there will never be enough cabinet members to do the 25th.

More re DC statehood.

The "It was ANTIFA" move is sickening. Fucking absurd.

R176 Thank god we have pictures and videos

Merkel:

Scotland says ‘stay out.’

Sources say the divide between President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence has deepened over the last 24 hours. Trump is angry at Pence and Pence is disappointed and saddened by Trump.

Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio) on calls for Trump's Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment:

“If the Cabinet decided to do that, I would not oppose it. … I do not believe that an impeachment can happen in 13 days.”

Consider this: There has no press conference from the FBI or any major law enforcement agency about an attack on the U.S. Capitol that left four dead, many others injured and our entire U.S. Congress terrorized.

WTF is going on?

[quote] Trump is angry at Pence and Pence is disappointed and saddened by Trump.

This stupid, cowardly doormat MFer is only 'disappointed and saddened' now?

[quote]Trump is angry at Pence and Pence is disappointed and saddened by Trump.

Poor sweet lamb, come sit by me!

Where’s Melania?

He can’t even find his balls with balls.

R173 Impeachment = indictment.

Removal = conviction.

[quote]Mother’s on dress barn.com picking out her inaugural habit.

Unfortunately for Mother, the 25th amendment does not lead to an inauguration, nor does it make Pence the President.

NO ONE is going to believe the "it was antifa" bullshit, surely. No one sane. On the right, country-club Republicans (i.e., normal, actual Republicans) on won't believe it. Ben Sasse and MItt Romney Republicans won't believe it.

Senile and dementia-afflicted people watching Fox News might believe it, but they have like a few years left anyway.

CNN reports Trump called Pence “a vulgarity” when he said he couldn’t support what Trump wanted.

R187, I assumed that was understood when I said there weren’t enough Republicans. There are more than enough House Democrats to write the articles of impeachment, but not enough Republican Senators to convict.

At least impeach him. Make sure he's the only president impeached twice. There's got to be some kind of mark on history for this.

r191 Not only are there not enough Republicans to commit, the impeachment process involves a full trial, the Supreme Court, etc. This is just not going to happen in two weeks.

Watching Nicolle right now on MSNBC. Comforting.

Impeachment or not, this is quickly turning out to be the best thing that could have happened, both for the Democrats and for America. Republicans have been given a glimpse into what their demagoguery has wrought, and as bad as it was, it was really just a canary in the coal mine. They know they cannot continue to play with fire the way they have been. Their more extreme members will be sidelined, the more moderate Republicans will try to work with Biden, and Biden will likely get more done that Barack Obama did because Republicans are so close to being put out to pasture that they will have no choice.

Am I dreaming? Possibly.

[quote] the more moderate Republicans

There is no longer such a thing. They are the party of Trump -- they stuck with him for four year and they can burn in hell with him right now. Raze the GOP to the ground!

I think you're right, R195. It's like a bad abscess, the pus has to be drained in order to be healed.

It doesn't sound like Pence or the Cabinet has the balls to remove Trump. I'm also not sure the Rethugs will even convict and remove them. It makes me wish that those Maga idiots had taken Pence hostage, maybe then they would remove Trump.

I need Buttigieg to speak on this. I want to hear from him.

They can fast track impeachment. They don’t have to go thru the whole song and dance.

What are the terrorists going to do at the inauguration? On MSNBC Swalwell just said he's been reading their plans on social media.

R195… maybe? They’ll be rattled, most, and uncertain. And they are weekend because anybody can point to yesterday at any time and how can they possibly defend it?

Swalwell is saying that congressional staff might have helped this attack happen. It needs to be investigated.

Eric Swallwell said on msnbc that it’s very suspicious that the terrorists ended up in certain offices. Said even he has trouble finding those offices and he’s worked there for years.

A 9/11 style commission must begin on 1/20.

1/6 was an inside job.

on MSNBC

John kelly is on CNN Right now

R200 I’m sure they think they’re going to be able to do something but the inauguration is led by the secret service and the FBI, not the capitol police. You won’t be able to get within 10 blocks of the capitol.

I don't know if there are "more moderate" Republicans. I do think that most Republican politicians are heavily invested in preserving the federal government, no matter what they say: they want to stay on the gravy train and use their positions to make money (see: teary-eyed Mitch). They have no desire to actually face the consequences of their demagoguery. They want the establishment to stay the establishment. They are not going to want to see another insurrection.

R203 I agree it was an inside job. Also, with some help from other agencies. Individuals, not the whole agency. With everyone working at home, it wouldn't be that hard.

Jim Acosta: Pence to attend inauguration

The capitol police are compromised, no doubt. The chief is a deplorable and I’m sure a lot of the officers are too. Trump refused to send in additional help. This was all planned and coordinated. The proud boys leader was not at the White House last month for a “public tour”. BUNK. He was there to plot with trump on how to disrupt certification.

Fuck Pence. If he doesn’t pull the 25th, Democrats need to gain balls and go after him as well. Even if he does that he’s still scum.

An investigation into the roles of certain Cogressmen and their staff per this mob action needs immediate undertaking.

Matt Gaetz, Gohmert, Gym Jordan, Biggs, and dozen or so of others......

Inside complicity can't necessarily be dismissed at this point.

^Congressmen

Gaetz and Mo Brooks we’re absolutely involved. They started pushing the “it was antifa” nonsense almost immediately. Hmmmmmm

He should be told to resign by making him an offer he can't refuse. And then get him anyway.

[quote]the impeachment process involves a full trial, the Supreme Court, etc.

Oh, I've seen it done much more expeditiously.

WaPo… acting US attorney says trump’s comment before rally could be investigated.

Bolton was on CNN saying there isn’t enough time for the 25th. Pence has to write a letter, then Trump can refuse in a letter, and then Congress has 21 days to decide by supermajority.

^ link

[quote]Has Tiffany weighed in yet?

FUCK YOU! I LOST 3 POUNDS LAST YEAR!

T H R E E

P O U N D S!

FUCK YOU!

Why is Trump going to Camp David? He hates it there. Has he already made a deal to resign and if he does it from Camp David he avoid the walk of shame?

Thought that was weird as well, R221.

Invoking the 25th has to be done now. It would be the ultimate humiliation and disgrace for him.

It needs to done before he pardons anyone else especially those pigs known as his children.

I want them all to walk the walk of shame.

Going to Camp David is odd. Maybe the Secret Service could provide no entry to anyone showing up with 25 amendment or impeachment papers. And yes, I get they could do it electronically. By the way, his main Secret Service guy is totally all Trump. He will be reassigned - not to Biden-after Jan 20.

Or - it's a place he can leave without any fanfare. It's out in the middle of nowhere, heavy woods. The press can't really get near it. It's an easy helicopter ride to Frederick, Md where his jet could be gassed up and ready to go.

[quote] It's an easy helicopter ride to Frederick, Md where his jet could be gassed up and ready to go.

He'll leave the country, heading to Saudi Arabia.

This whole business about "not enough time" for the 25th Amendment or impeachment is nonsense. Of course the Constitution provides measures to remove a president (or other magistrate) who's been discovered to be a clear and present danger without waiting weeks while letters go back and forth. If it's not happening, it's just because there's not enough will on the Republican side. They're still dependent on the Trumpist base, and they don't want to go beyond the minimum lip service to gratify general public opinion.

Charo resigns from Transportation Department, citing 'traumatic,' 'avoidable' Capitol riot

Just in:

On-camera briefing by Press Secretary (& lying cunt) Kayleigh McEnany at 5:15 EST.

Nazi Barbie is about to hold a press conference from the WH

What will be in her (indexed) book of tricks tonight?

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LOAD OF BULLSHIT.

Fucking Ivanka is holding a press conference???

I bet Chao resigned so as not to be put on the spot for the 25th Amendment.

She said they’re all working towards a peaceful transition.

Took no questions.

She sounded spooked. I’m thinking the FBI paid them a visit and is going to investigate them all for inciting a riot

Reading your post r234 I had such a deja vu. I mean that genuinely.

[quote]Has Tiffany weighed in yet?

Yeah, at about 184.

Thank you, I'll be here all week!

The fat bastard must be shitting himself not being able to tweet or post on Facebook. I read that Facebook has closed his account for the remainder of his term as POTUS. But then, did he actually post on FB, or was that the responsibility of some staffer?

Banning Trump permanently from Twitter might be the one thing that drives him to suicide.

What? How long did she speak?

Twitter was a 12 hour ban right?

Trump is apparently planning on releasing another video tonight

I don’t think the 25th amendment is going to be used.

Good things like that just don’t happen these days.

If he causes another attack, then maybe. But I think he’ll be forced to leave the WH on 1/20.

Josh hawley’s book is CANCELED

If the House introduces articles of impeachment, doesn't that put Trump's actions -- executive orders, pardons -- on hold?

Also, there should be a bill stating that impeached presidents should not have pardoning privileges.

R243, haha! I hope this is the beginning of Hawley's entire career coming undone!

That will make Harley think twice. Finally, something.

High School Barbie

Word is Pence will absolutely not support 25th.

[quote] Banning Trump permanently from Twitter might be the one thing that drives him to suicide.ten

Good. He thrives on it and I hope he dies of lack of attention.

Impeach

How on earth does a WH Press Secretary come out, make a little speech, and then leave with no questions after a major insurrection?

So Mitt Romney probably would be considered a moderate Republican now? Kellyanne somewhat distancing herself from extremist Trump supporters

I think some Homeland Security people might be involved as well.

[quote] So Mitt Romney probably would be considered a moderate Republican now?

Yes and a mild Republican to the Fox News set

And a RINO to the OAN set.

Is it true Dump is on parlor now??

LOL, R236

Must be a devastating day when Kayleigh can't even be bothered to curl her blonde locks.

Only a few days of ol' pigeon head.

[quote] Must be a devastating day when Kayleigh can't even be bothered to curl her blonde locks.

Give her a break -- she's still sad Santa Claus didn't gift her a new pair of breasts for Xmas.

Dump honored 3 pro golfers today with Medals of Freedom. He's doing so much of the nation's critical work he hasn't realized he's been cancelled.

I had a feeling Pence wouldn't invoke the 25th.

I wish the insurgents had accomplished their goal and held him hostage but I bet he'd still wouldn't do a damn thing.

ABC News reporting that Trump and Pence haven't spoken since before all hell broke loose yesterday.

The 19th is the new date floating around on Parler, and they want to come armed now

You people insisting that the party tent video was taken during the riot need to get your eyes checked. The pictures on the screens show the rally stage and crowds.

Trump then went out, told the crowd he’d walk down to the Capitol with them, then promptly went back to the White House to plop his fat ass down and eat a sandwich. He reportedly watched his handiwork from there.

(...as much as it would be hilarious to think of Kimberly spinning and laughing maniacally to "Gloria" as Rome burns, so to speak)

FBI now has 4,000 online tips to help identify rioters

After asking for information from the public, the FBI Washington Field Office has received more than 4,000 tips including digital media that are now being analyzed. That includes photos and video of suspects rioting at the Capitol.

And that’s just online tips and doesn’t include tips given over the phone.

Intelligence analysts are triaging the information, sorting out and prioritizing the best leads, getting rid of duplicates. Then any credible leads are forwarded to teams of agents working the case.

Facial recognition software is being used, with some of the analysis being parceled out to the Criminal Justice Information Services Unit in West Virginia.

She sounded spooked. I’m thinking the FBI paid them a visit and is going to investigate them all for inciting a riot

I thought so too; near tears almost.

I'm not surprised about Pence not using the 25th, but he's always been a weak opportunist, even if he did briefly find his balls in pocket on Wednesday.

And they will never speak again.

Watching Biden look at Harris with genuine admiration and pride today when she spoke was like going back to your childhood bedroom, getting into bed on a cold winter night and eating a tray of mom's warm pie with ice-cream while watching reruns of old TV shows. Comforting, warm, hopeful. Come on Jan 20.

CNN: A Capitol police officer has died from injuries sustained during the Trump Insurrection.

You people insisting that the party tent video was taken during the riot need to get your eyes checked. The pictures on the screens show the rally stage and crowds.

No argument there - it happened pre-speech, but how many times in that clip did they reference a "fight" - they clearly expected that these yahoos were going to march on Congress

[quote]ABC News reporting that Trump and Pence haven't spoken since before all hell broke loose yesterday.

I wonder if they still tongue-kiss?

Mike Pence thoughts

[quote] CNN: A Capitol police officer has died from injuries sustained during the Trump Insurrection.

Blood on Trump's hands as well as Cruz and Hawley's.

There's a video of a fat police officer inside the capitol amid a swarm of protestors, looking like he's panicking or clutching his chest. Then I notice someone--a protestor-- patting him on the back, asking him if he's okay. Damn, I wonder what happened to that guy and if he was one of the officers hospitalized. I feel bad for those officers who were caught in the middle, the crowd just seemed overwhelming for them. There was also a black police officer by himself, being chased by a white protestor and running up the stairs.

It feels like things are moving slowly... I want him gone.

Homeland Security and the FBI probably knew about the protests but Trump---the Commander in Chief ---(fucking Orange Shitler) told them not to do anything. When the rioters were overwhelming the Capitol, he told DoD not to send in the National Guard so Pence had to call them. That's really fucked up. He needs to be removed now, just for that but I can't believe Pence is not going to use the 25th.

He's hiding at Camp David, and he hates Camp David, so that's something.

FINALLY!

Although, those who care can enjoy it.

Off duty police and military were members of the mob. They used their badges to gain access. This gets deeper and deeper. House and senate commissions will be investigating for years.

The capitol police should be removed from the capitol immediately. Get the FBI to take over for the moment. Until every single officer is investigated

Matt Yglesias:

The most vexing aspect of the Trump years is not only did he never even hide how terrible he was, lots of the people who spent years helping him hold power — Rubio, Cruz, Perry, etc — called it publicly long before he took office.

The whole time there’s been nothing to expose — he’s exactly as awful as the people who decided to support him said he was.

At a presser in NY, Sen. Schumer said he and Speaker Pelosi tried to call VP Pence this morning to tell him to invoke the 25th Amendment. "They kept us on hold for 25 minutes and then said the vice president wouldn’t come on the phone," Schumer said.

CBS News

My 2 cents:

Obvious, as many other have pointed out, that local police were in cohorts with the mob.

The secret service were the real hero’s getting everyone safely away from danger. That now famous photo of “the police” holding back the mob looks like secret service to me.

I shudder-shudder to think if Nance, Pence etc were caught by the mob.

Trumps first tweets. 5 minutes ago

-tweet

New Trump video - in it, he condemns yesterday's violence, says he will work to ensure a "smooth, orderly and seamless" transition, and talks a bit about the pandemic.

In other words, he's scared as hell.

R283 Jesus. He’s blatantly lying.

Fucking Liar. He did not immediately deploy the National Guard from what I heard. Pence didn't because they couldn't reach him.

Looks like a hostage video.

Trump looks like he's being held hostage in that video.

He's only about 2 months too late.

Pence did (called the National Guard)

He's covering his ass legally & politically. Fortunately there's incriminating evidence & videos to prove he's lying

#Impeachment is trending at #1.

What an abrupt about-face for Trumpy Bear! He must be shitting his diapers right about now. Especially with the news of that dead Capitol policeman.

It’s looking increasingly likely that the leadership of the capitol police coordinated with the White House and the proud boys and allowed a mob to overtake congress.

Has this been shared here yet? Too many threads to keep track of for my exhausted brain sorry

this fucking piece of SHIT. I could vomit

A. He lied and said he deployed the National guard when it was actually Pence. B. He called them "demonstrators". Biden correctly called them "insurrectionists". C. He offered no apology or took responsibility for his actions in inciting them. D. He's scared out of his mind and terrified of being removed from office.

R289 This video was his last desperate attempt not to be removed from office. If he is removed, he will not be able to pardon himself. That's what this is about.

A. He lied and said he deployed the National guard when it was actually Pence.

B. He called them "demonstrators". Biden correctly called them "insurrectionists".

C. He offered no apology or took responsibility for his actions in inciting them.

D. He's scared out of his mind and terrified of being removed from office.

Clearly, the Capitol Police got bought.

Trump, Kanye and Johnny Depp: what is up with these gemini males?

I couldn't watch to the end, but his words were slurred. Maybe we can hope for a stroke.

R297 I swear, my head feels like it wants to explode after the last 24 hours.

No humility, no responsibility, still lying.

He looked like he was sneering.

And he still has not conceded or congratulated Biden and Harris. Such an asshole. And the election was over months ago, not yesterday.

His speech still ended on an ominous dog-whistle-y note.

"...but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning."

A Capitol Police Officer died????

I just...

He's reputedly plotting revenge on those who, in his mind, betrayed him. I am so perched waiting for the kompromat on Miss Lindz, Moscow Mitch, and a few others to drop.

Now would be a perfect time for Vlad to release the wee wee tape. You've got nothing to lose at this point Vlad, and it really would entertain us.

This is NOT who I am, but I am going to say it:

If Pence does not invoke the 25th

he is a HUGE wimp

and pussy

We have reporters who confirmed yesterday that the Pentagon refused to deploy the National Guard.

This motherfucker really is something else.

"...but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning."

It's the NeverEnding (Horror) Story.

Speaking of Putin, he really knows how the troll the US.

Russian TV showed the insurrection on a loop "accompanied by dramatic orchestral music", according to the NY Times.

What incredible journey? Being in the courtrooms, being charged with sedition and treason?

[quote]The 19th is the new date floating around on Parler, and they want to come armed now

Good luck with that, hillbillies, the day before the inauguration.

I hope he knows his incredible journey will include jail and death.

I hope his incredible journey includes doing the YMCA dance in a tiny little prison cell.

[quote] The 19th is the new date floating around on Parler, and they want to come armed now

Nancy and the Dems need to get the military behind them. This is domestic terrorism.

.@WSJ editorial page: "In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr. Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable."

Yep, R298. He can’t pardon himself anyway. It won’t work. There is nothing saying he can and virtually every (reputable) constitutional scholar agrees he doesn’t have the power to pardon himself.

Good for this motherfucker.

It is so hard to keep track of all of the news coming out of this explosives diarrhea shitfest.

The backlash against Dump from his supporters is starting.

Just checking in on the news. There is a palpable and very noticeable difference in how Dump is being spoken of and treated by politicians and the press. It's very heartening! The talk of him having no way to communicate because all his social media is suspended (which must be killing him) and the GOP keeping him on a very short leash and having effectively "taken over" and likely sending him packing without attending President Biden's inauguration is delicious. Obviously, much of it is political posturing like invoking the 25th or impeachment but it sounds good to my ears. There isn't time/the GOP won't do it.

But what is clear is that he [bold]REALLY[/done] shit in his own nest yesterday. Has a US President ever left office with such stench before?

Bliss.

Oops!

Dems can move an impeachment vote quickly - within two days if they do it under privilege, something they are considering. But McConnell can likely run out the clock until Jan. 20. So if there’s no 25thA, then impeachment may amount to a symbolic gesture

They should still do it. Go on record for the history books that they did not stand for the sitting president organising an attack on the US capitol.

They have to do it if only for that.

CNN:

US Capitol Police chief Steven Sund is resigning, an official says, in the wake of a pro-Trump mob storming the building

The democrats have a trifecta for at least two years. There is NO political downside to impeaching him, even knowing it will fail in the senate.

What r327 said.

Trump is an actual, real danger.

Also, If I were a Dem Member of the US House of Reps, let McConnell "run out the clock".

He can't take away the time still remaining to have my name on a historical record which indicates that that I took a public, open stand against Trump.

Nancy won't sit on her hands. Dems have to act decisively, and soon.

Nancy won't sit on her hands. The Dems have to act decisively, and soon.

[quote]Dems can move an impeachment vote quickly - within two days if they do it under privilege, something they are considering. But McConnell can likely run out the clock until

SURPRISE! McConnell is no longer Senate majority leader.

r337, Is he or not? I thought they have to wait until the 2 Dems in Georgia are officially certified the winners? I just heard that Loeffler has finally conceded to Warnock so that's one, but we need Perdue to concede to Ossoff before he can be certified, and so far Perdue isn't doing that.

At least that's what I thought.

Kelly Loeffler concedes:

R339 Now waiting on Purdue.

Seeing you around is comforting, Poll Troll. 😘

*Perdue

What happens if the fucker doesn't concede?

COVID MAGAtitties actually wore a coat today and almost looked somewhat professional as opposed to brunching with the Karens.

MSNBC has "Breaking News" that the House has begun the Impeachment procedure.

[quote]Dems can move an impeachment vote quickly - within two days if they do it under privilege, something they are considering.

I'm glad the press is reporting this now, earlier today I said the fastest this could go would still take days and got yelled at by people saying it could be done "right now if they want it."

There are political writers and Twitterati who are always saying that something complicated can be done by the government "today if they really want it done" and it's almost never true.

Glad Pelosi stuck by her word and started the proceedings right now, since Pence went back to being a cowardly little shit.

Thank God.

So even the WSJ editorial board is endorsing impeachment? That Murdoch-Trump fallout finally bears fruit.

PollTroll, your hair looks fantastic, which is saying alot, given the past 48 hours!

I was thinking about the events of the last 24 hours. I have to say, in a way I am glad it happened. I'm sad that it took people having to die, but this is what it took to fully expose Trump, and so many GOP members of Congress for the lowlifes they are. The last 24 hours will probably put an end to the political careers of a lot of people in Congress, and that's a good thing. But most of all it finally got the point through to a lot of people who have not been going along with the fact that Trump is crazed and should have been removed long ago. Trump's support base with people in high enough positions to do him any good after he's out of office has been reduced substantially. Most of his benefactors won't touch him with a 10' pole now.

Can they get these votes?

The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official upon conviction is removal from office.

Twitch (whatever the hell that is) is the latest to disable Trump’s account Indefinitely

Twitch is where the gamer bros live, R352. I wonder who ran his channel there.

They would need 17 R senators to join impeachment. I just don’t think that many would go along.

I think impeachment and conviction has a better chance than the 25th, but I don't know how likely it is.

So let the the sniveling Rethug senators go on record as not voting to impeach.

You won’t get 17 R senators to go along with it.

You go Michelle!

Every single Rethug senator needs to go on record and be held accountable.

Insurection was big ratings. Most watched 24hours in CNN history

R361 I’m sure they’re pleased.

Hell, R362, I’m sure Dump is pleased.

They should impeach him even if has only one day left as president. That should effectively end his political career and nice to see that word impeached attached to his name forever.

I watched for 20 hours straight, R361. Well, CNN and MSNBC, with the occasional drive by through Fox to see how they were handling it (they blamed an Antifa infiltration; don't ask.) Between the ratification vote/insurrection following the GA election on Tues, I've watched more consecutive TV news in the past two days than ever before in my life.

I’m sorry but this made me laugh.

R365 Me too 😂! I felt like I was on crack.

A bunch of reporters who've covered QAnon and Maga in person and on social media saying they can easily identify many of the occupiers the FBI is now "trying to track down". Shocking.

WSJ: Education Secretary Betsy DeVos submitted her resignation to President Trump on Thursday night, saying the Capitol riot was an inflection point for her

Um...

Lots of rats fleeing the sinking ship now. Many are doing so to avoid the 25th amendment thing. They know what needs to be done but don't want to be involved so they run away under the guise of being suddenly outraged.

An inflection point? Does DeVos even know what that means?

Fucking rats jumping off a sinking ship. Per Chris Hayes, they've probably just got enough vacation days saved up to head to their beach houses to ride out the winter.

I deserve an Emmy for my role in the Insurection ratings.

I notice most of the people his cabinet leaving are women.

Even if both new Georgia senators were seated, Mitch will still be majority leader until Kamala becomes VP to break the tie.

Maddow playing a clip of MD gov Larry Hogan saying he got a call from MD Congressman Steny Hoyer from hiding during the occupation pleading with him to send backup bc the Capitol Police were overwhelmed. Hogan had already sent police assistance, and told Hoyer he'd mobilized the Maryland National Guard but couldn't get the needed approval to send them into DC from the Defense Dept.

R349, I'm right there with you.

Nobody could have written a better, more fitting ending to this burning trash-dumpster of an administration. It really was like a telenovela where all of the melodramatic, over-the-top villains get their just deserts at the very end.

Larry Hogan is a Republican, btw. And he's calling for Trump's removal.

Wow. Just fucking WOW.

This time for SURE !

Betsy DeVoss just resigned.

R378

It's not over.

Don't unclench your butt cheeks yet. There's still damage to be done.

Do impeached presidents still received secret service guards?

UPDATE: President Trump is NO LONGER planning to go to Camp David for the weekend as originally planned. The White House is declining to comment on the reason for the change in schedule.

R384

There's not much more profit that Betsy could make destroying public education to benefit her religious charter schools movement. And she's already got the Amway pyramid scheme money.

Besides I'm sure her ten 40 million dollar yachts are missing her.

Well, maybe only 9 of them miss her. Yacht #7 is a tweenage atheist rebel, I hear.

BREAKING NEWS (CNN, on-air): US Attorney in DC Engaged in "Serious" and "Wide-ranging" Federal "Sedition" and "Conspiracy" Investigation Over Attack on United States Capitol; 30 Main Suspects Believed to Have Fled DC; President and His Son Will Also Be Investigated for Incitement

R387 "...he will have many meetings"

With WHO? The whole freaking cabinet has resigned!

R392 that tweet will serve as my masturbation aid tonight.

Has Junior's coke dealer reported in? I'm worried he didn't provide enough and Junior had him snuffed out by smelling Kimberly Gargoyle's snatch.

r394. It's from Seth Abramson though, so...yeah

I guess Pete and Madame Chao won't be meeting to discuss a smooth transition of power?

It’s not just that they incited the riot, they were actively involved in planning it. I hops they can get 17 Senators to sign in once they connect all the dots.

In-fucking-credible.

I just stumbled across this while trying to find an online weather map. The Trump campaign dismissed FOUR election law suits in Georgia today!!

They can riot and scream and tweet and threaten... but the reality is the Democrats will control the House, Senate and White House. And Warnock and Ossoff won their contests in Georgia- a black man and a Jew. And an out gay man will be Transportation Secretary. And our new Vice President is a bi-racial FEMALE.

Don't let the racist, bigoted, misogynistic homophobes rain on our parade.

Trump is so delusional he thinks yesterday was no big deal. He enjoyed it.

[quote] Do impeached presidents still received secret service guards?

You mean "do convicted presidents still receive secret service guards?"

Impeachment is just the indictment. Unless he's tried and convicted in the Senate then for all intents and purposes he's not guilty in the eyes of the law.

R400 Did Sidney Powell release the Kraken yet?

I don't want to see that bitch's krack!

I think that was Lara Trump in the video

Heh heh heh

[quote] 2 Websites Selling Trump Merchandise Are Shut Down

Yes, what happened to the Kraken Lady? Haven't heard a peep out of her in weeks. I think she was announced as a speaker at the fore-riot yesterday, but I didn't watch it. And that Cleta Deathrage Mitchell, the attorney from the phone call on Saturday; fired from her law firm now, unemployed, where is SHE now?

Impeachment might not get the 17 R senators (plus Romney) to convict, but it's a crucial step to force all Republicans in Congress to take a public stand on whether they agree that inciting a violent mob to disrupt Congress should be considered illegal.

^Senator Tammy just doesn't get it. Schumer and Pelosi said they waited on hold today for 25 minutes waiting for Mother Pence to allow little Mike to come to the phone about this very issue and he WOULD NOT talk to him. It's just not going to happen.

I'm just going to leave this here...

Attorney withdraws from election challenge lawsuit, says Trump used him to "perpetrate a crime"

Rep. Elissa Slotkin, endorsing the invocation of the 25th Amendment, said: "I've heard from a number of senior Trump Administration officials this morning that he is increasingly unhinged, and they are concerned about the actions he could take in the next few weeks."

Few weeks? He only has 12 days.

^^ A child with a blowtorch can do a lot of damage in 12 days. ^^

He will be consumed with revenge and pardons.

Were any MAGAs trolling for DC dick on the apps over the last week.

So now Dump has thrown his MAGAt followers under the bus after inciting them to riot for his cause? Great. Now he’ll truly have no one left other than the criminals he’s pardoned (or will pardon in the next 12 days) and his loathsome family. Everyone else has kicked his ass to the curb.

Trump will be done when only when they have the funeral. Until then, we will be dealing with a very dangerous creature once he leaves the WH. This will be akin to the rise of the Nazi Party. No fucking joke. The republic party will be a total fucking loss on how to handle him. He will have actually more power than he does now over the insane creatures that will die for him. Don't think that this is the end of him. It is the beginning of a whole new nightmare chapter that should scare the fuck out of any sane person.

As AWFUL as George W Bush was, at least I wasn't afraid of his supporters.

I am fucking terrified of most of these Trump twats. And I'm surrounded by them. Some of them super hard-core, too.

R425 Right. It was the 200 million people in middle eastern countries that needed to be afraid of his supporters.

Poor poor Barron - imagine being the pariah in your adolescence because father is perceived a traitorous loser

R424, I disagree. I think he will be shunned by everyone in the future. He has completely destroyed his brand and there is no way to come back from it.

It would be awesome if Melania resigned this week as well and takes her kid with her. I

Where is MElania???

R429

Her name is Melanie.

Vairst Leddy Melanie.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fingering her freshly waxed hole.

Flipping through her little black book of former clients (important attributes recorded: penis length/net worth)

Practicing shooting ping pong balls outta her hoo-ha!

More than 200 congressional lawmakers now calling for Trump's removal

More than 200 members of the U.S. Senate and House support the removal of President Donald Trump, according to an NBC News' count.

The calls are in reaction to Wednesday's riot at the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob, which followed months of Trump claiming the election he lost was fraudulent or stolen, claims for which there is no evidence, and a rally Wednesday. Trump has been accused of inciting the violence.

The measures discussed include a possible second impeachment or the 25th Amendment. Almost all are Democrats or Independents; Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Illinois, is the only Republican.

Trump will leave office in a little less than two weeks, on Jan. 20 when Joe Biden is inaugurated. On Thursday, Trump in a video acknowledged a new administration would be inaugurated and he called Wednesday's chaos "a heinous attack" and condemned the violence.

R428, you completely underestimate the idiocy of the average American. Did you not see the Qanon shaman with horns roaming the halls of the capitol? I rest my case.

#435 illustrated

R435, elite republicans will shun him. They are the ones with power. Trump will maintain his loser deplorable base who have little power.

With that said, if he had DC cops on his side he might have even more...

All I am getting from Republicans is mild disappointment in Trump. If a woman organized this she would be shot.

Republicans are already acting like it didn’t happen or was not that bad.

I hope that the DC Attorney investigations include the issue of 'conspiracy', because something about the protection of The Capitol ahead of and during the demonstration doesn't add up.

I'm surrounded by them, too, r425. The Trump flags are flying, and they held a sad little rally yesterday in town. The main Trump stans likely went to DC, or maybe to Portland/Salem.

I am glad my partner grew up here and isn't afraid of guns, like I am, major MARY! from the city. He used to hunt, but now will only raise a gun to protect us.

Those people who ransacked the Capitol ---Q-Anons, Proud Boys, etc.---are now exposed as domestic terrorists and all the people who participated in it. Any of these militia groups needs to be disbanded and outlawed because they're a danger to our democracy.

When Trump called into the RNC convention today he was cheered. There is no accountability.

Is Rep Lamb kinda hot? Or am I just really hard up?

[quote] Trump is so delusional he thinks yesterday was no big deal. He enjoyed it.

He is delusional but he's not enjoying himself right now. No one will return his calls. No one of consequence will defend him. He has lost all of his allies. Even his sycophants are shitting themselves.

Someone close to him explained slowly -- and in the manner you would speak to a 5 year old -- that the whole world believes that he incited a mob of murderous traitors to attack the Capitol and KILL members of Congress. They also explained that when he is no longer President none of his communications will remain classified and all agencies of law enforcement will reveal that he ordered them to stand down and allow the carnage. Five people died in the purposeful and deliberate execution of his illegal effort to overturn the results of a lawful election.

That sounds scary -- even to a 5 year old.

Trust me. When he watched the mob on TV he enjoyed it.

I think he is starting to realize the gravity of what he's done, otherwise why would he cancel his weekend to Camp David and make that "hostage" video.. The US Attorney is investigating whether he and his son incited the rioters, so yeah, he may be charged with sedition, Congress is going to impeach him again. His schedule said he's making phone calls, probably making phone calls to allies so he won't be convicted in the Senate.

Yup, R446. And the footage of him and Jr Mint watching will be part of the Biden DOJ inquest.

His attorney told him he had to make the video. Every word was scripted. He’ll go off the rails again soon enough. Susan Collins has expressed deep concern.

His speech showed no more emotion than if he was selling Trump Steaks*. But he was able to throw-in a, "We've just begun" to keep the donations flowing (it's always about money). A towering narcissistic sociopath.

The riot restored his self-esteem, which he lost a bit hiding for two months. "They love me..."

The BBC interviewed Mary Trump this evening and asked her if she was ashamed of her uncle, and she said she's ashamed of the people who voted for him.

Remember when he called the GA Secretary of State and threatened him? It feels like a lifetime ago, but it wasn't even a week! Then you have the whole Covid debacle and a thousand other crimes that were handwaved away. It should NEVER have gotten to this point.

Wikipedia has a page up chronicling the “2021 efforts to remove Donald Trump from office,” which was last updated several hours ago.

[quote] Trust me. When he watched the mob on TV he enjoyed it.

I agree. He was glued to the TV eating Big Macs and ice cream and loving every minute of it on Wednesday.

Now, he is hoping to die in his sleep before January 21st.

[quote]Is Rep Lamb kinda hot? Or am I just really hard up?

Sadly r44, the two are not mutually exclusive.

My apologies to the probably confused r44.

My comment was meant for r444.

I'm sure this has already been posted but it's worth watching again!

The Trump Riot Watch Party and they're openly inciting violence.

We must make sure that every single one of them become outcast pariahs in America.

And it’s still up, too. I created a thread for it because I’m going to create a thread for every fucking detail that proves his guilt in not just inciting but ordering this terrorist attack on our country and government.

Congress should temporarily remove the power of the POTUS to pardon anyone until Trump is gone. I would think they could do that.

My bf watched the Don Jr video and said he hadn't seen anyone coked up like that since Stevie Nicks in 1983. He's not even a Datalounger!

[quote]"They don't like to do anything extreme," but the impeachment articles Have. Been. Drawn. Up. Some members of Congress clearly aren't following your guidelines.

This is directed at me (again) but I haven't "given guidelines" nor did I say they wouldn't impeach. I've been saying from the beginning that impeachment is the best solution, it's basically guaranteed in the House, it's conviction in the Senate that we may not have the votes for but at least it's worth a shot. Also that it can't be done immediately like some pundits are claiming, it'll take at least several days.

I get that you disagreed with me like 48 hours ago and you're still hopping mad about it, and also have apparently conflated things I said with what someone else said, but for the love of god, move on.

He isn’t done. His video statement yesterday redeemed him in the eyes of many, unfortunately.

Agree r413, and it seems like the Senators have taken this more seriously than the GOP Representatives, so I think we have a chance at conviction this time. I also like knowing they're going to be between a rock and a hard place with this.

I haven't seen anything to indicate the video statement redeemed him. If anything, I was seeing MAGA types online upset about it to the point of saying they were crying.

The "it wasn't actually a concession" line has gone viral enough that some of them are feeling better, but the whole MAGA QAnon thing seems very much muted.

"Congress can't pass bills on pardon powers," according to this article.

Republican Senator Ben Sasse is considering a vote on articles of impeachment if the House moves forward.

What is this?

Yashar Ali:

I will tell you this, my Republican sources are already softening their position on Trump post video. Which is just remarkable but not unexpected.

To anyone who has trouble imagining how the German people permitted atrocities by the Nazis and supported Hitler.......

Jake Sherman:

Trump and Kevin McCarthy got into a screaming match Wed as an enraged mob of Trump supporters attacked the Capitol, according to a source familiar with the episode.

Why is Jr the only black haired, somewhat olive complected, Trump? The others are all ugly pasty completely white people. Is Trump his real biological father?

[quote]My bf watched the Don Jr video and said he hadn't seen anyone coked up like that since Stevie Nicks in 1983. He's not even a Datalounger!

But he IS a bitch r460.

r471 he has those derp features from the Trump genes so I think he is DJT's progeny.

I guess we are finding out if trump can shoot someone and get away with it. He obviously believed he could.

Was that video taken while the assault on the Capitol was going on or is this before T spoke to the crowd?

Junior has terminal Trump Derp Face, there's no one else who could be his father.

It looks like it's immediately after the speech to me, but even if it's before the speech, it's clear they're all hyped up and cheering the imminent call for insurrection.

This account of an NYT photographer getting attacked by the mob in the Capitol building and then getting guns drawn on her by the police, who she had expected to help her while she was getting attacked, is harrowing.

Apparently the second of your options r475.

Interesting r470, McCarthy demanded Trump denounce the insurrection and he wouldn't.

Yet McCarthy voted to overturn votes after the riot had subsided, so he's clearly wedged right up Trump's ass.

Senator Sasse on CBS seems to hint that he’s down with impeachment

Yeah, R481, George Conway thinks that 17 Rs (of 2/3 necessary to be present) can be cajoled to convict in the Senate: assuming all Ds (Manchin?) are aligned.

This may work this time.

Manchin voted to impeach the first time, right? At any rate he would not want to be the only Democrat out.

Now that a cop is dead all bets are off. Trump should just resign.

[quote]To get him to record yesterday’s video, President Trump’s top aides told him there was a real chance he’d be removed from office — whether by his own Cabinet or lawmakers — if he didn’t more forcefully denounce the pro-Trump mob.

[quote]McCarthy voted to overturn votes after the riot had subsided, so he's clearly wedged right up Trump's ass.

Not a problem, it's plenty roomy in here!

side note

Voting machine firm Dominion sues pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, seeking more than $1.3 billion in defamation claim

He is already laying the groundwork with his latest tweets today. After Biden takes office, Trump will be the most dangerous person on the planet. He will become more popular than ever. If you go to the woo sites like I do and read what is going on with them, you would see. This human, if you can call him that has absolutely NO thoughts about anything else except becoming the next Hitler. To underestimate him and his followers will be the next worst mistake anyone could make.

[quote] He will become more popular than ever.

Please. Half of his 'followers' on Twitter are Bots. His own cabinet -- which he hand-picked himself -- is abandoning him. Losing the House, the Senate, and the presidency was a repudiation of him.

All it would take is Jack Dorsey permanently banning his ass on Twitter for him to become completely irrelevant.

R489, Go back to Democratic Underground. That's where our "special" fellow Democrats hang out as they enable the republic party every step. Maybe you can be part of their "chess game" squad.

R490, WTF?

Just a horrifying video of a cop almost crushed to death by the Trump mob. That should help finish Trump off.

...saw...

R491, just ignore him, he's been going on and on about how Trump will be more popular and powerful than ever once he's OUT of office, and he's lashing out at anyone who disagrees.

"... NO thoughts about anything else except becoming the next Hitler"

And how did that end, Ms. Riefenstahl?

r493, link?

R494, thanks. Point taken -- will do!

As. I wrote:

[bold]If you think this is over and that it’s going away, or will be deflected from or spun, you are dead wrong. This is a long game with a gradual and then sudden buildup. Being a Trumper is going to be akin to being a Nazi.[/bold]

I'm just frustrated that it took four years for Trump's shit to blow up in his face. If the GOP had impeached him the first time we wouldn't have 375,000 COVID deaths and climbing. He should be executed. Nothing less would be proper.

Mr. Colbert...

They should not have let him back on Twitter.

Jack made millions, maybe billions, on Trump using Twitter to incite violence and threaten wars. Of COURSE he's going to let Trump back on.

He absolutely should be banned from Twitter. Permanently. To lose those 88 million followers would be devastating and Parler is a piece of shit functionally. It sucks. Almost no one will follow him there. To lose the bullhorn of Twitter would effectively neuter him. There needs to be intense pressure on Jack Dorsey to cut off Trump and anyone who tries to give him a voice on Twitter forever.

Remove.Him.Now.

Instead what we hear is: we could...it’s possible...they might...

Disgusting and disgraceful. And it will probably ride out until the 20th.

Not trying to change the subject here, but just pointing out that another GA. attorney who was in on Donny's extortionate phone call to the GA SOS last Saturday (re "finding" the votes Trump wanted), has "resigned" (i.e. been allowed to quit in lieu of being fired). Good.

Ben Sasse: Trump was "delighted" by the rioting and "confused" about why others in the White House weren't

Colbert is right isn't he? The punishment for a violent attempt to overthrow the U.S. government is death.

Elizabeth from Knoxville TN and many others admit on camera to crimes that have SEVERE punishments.

Never be distracted by that.

My cousin wanted to participate in this stupidity but was ultimately too lazy, but I told him to his horror that I gave his info to the FBI because even though he's too lazy to actually participate in sedition, he has seditious motives.

Fuck him, let him sweat, and I hope soon there's a knock on his door.

[quote]Trump will be the most dangerous person on the planet. He will become more popular than ever.

You know what, Chicken Little? You are essentially the same as the MAGATs. You prefer to be scared and angry and riled up. You enjoy negativity and fear. You love it.

That's sad.

Pence at the White House

"I told you to NEVER show your fucking ass in this building again!!! IVANKA!!"

I had a feeling Trump was delighted and enjoyed seeing his beloved followers trashing the Capitol. He is a very sick man, a psychopath. He must have a demon inside him. He is that evil.

R509 Has he come to pack up his coffee mugs and cardigan?

Biden is on live right now and says he wants his major Cabinet people confirmed on Jan 20.

Could someone please explain to me, a clueless non-American, the point of impeaching Trump when he has less than two weeks left in office?

[quote]Biden is on live right now and says he wants his major Cabinet people confirmed on Jan 20.

Not a problem.

R513 to prevent him from ever running for office again, and, I think it also limits his pardon powers somewhat.

R513 I'll assume you're genuine and that wasn't a stealth troll post.

Because twelve days is an eternity in Trumpland and if they manage to impeach & remove it will stop him from any further terroristic acts. Even if they do not remove, they have to do something on record to show unequivocally that it is NOT ok for Presidents to try to become Dictator for Life.

By all rights he should have been arrested by the FBI.

[quote]I had a feeling Trump was delighted and enjoyed seeing his beloved followers trashing the Capitol. He is a very sick man, a psychopath. He must have a demon inside him. He is that evil.

As Charles Pierce of [italic]Esquire[/italic] puts it, "His mind is a writhing ball of snakes."

Thanks, R515 and R516

A fond farewell to Trump and his inner circle from British novelist Hari Kunzru.

"Mike Pence you repressed joyless would-be witchfinder, every time you spoke you always looked like you were straining to expel an enormous bolus of your own hypocrisy from your clenched sphincter.

“Betsy DeVos you blandly foolish soulless entitled child-stealing witch, rotting like a corpse inside your Chanel suit.

“Kayleigh McEnenay, you evacuated husk of a mean-girl cheerleader, the cavity where your heart once was pumped full of spite and moronic lies.

“Bill Barr you vast pompous pus-filled bladder of casuistry, you are an enemy of justice, bloated with resentment and cruelty, wobbling like a jelly at the feet of the oligarchs.

“Jared Kushner you vacuous dainty preening overpromoted nub of mediocrity, squeezed like an entitled smear of toothpaste into a silk suit bought with tear-stained dollars wrung out of the suffering tenants of your slum apartments.

“Ivanka Trump you monstrous slug of vanity, you infantile ninny so marinaded in self-regard that in your pea brain you believe we ought to love you for your crimes.

“Mike Pompeo, you bubble, you booby, you flatulent zero, that roiling in your ample guts that you mistake for world shaking significance is just the acid reflux of irrelevancy.

“Don Junior, you scabrous single-nostriled unloved elephant-murdering human wreckage, vibrating with bitterness and impotent rage at all the opportunities you’ve squandered.

“Interlude: all you staffers and interns, so eager to crunch your way in your shiny new work shoes over the bodies of the poor and powerless, I smite you and cast you out one by one.

“Eric Trump, you pallid clammy suppurating nocturnal semi-human grub, your absence of charisma is your only notable trait and the act of flushing you from memory will so be smooth and painless that in a month people will find it hard to picture your moon face.

“Rudy Giuliani, you capering cartoonish skull-faced bag of graft and corruption, too stupid even to ask who’s pulling your strings just so long as you can cake your crusty face in tv make-up and clack your jaw at a camera.

“And of course Stephen Miller, you weeping pustule upon the social body, you dreg, you homunculus, you noxious slime felched from the gaping cavity of Jim Crow, one day may you find yourself walking barefoot across hot sand, desperate for water, crying for your missing child.

[bold]PART 3[/bold]

Well, r507, that's certainly going to make the holidays awkward.

Welcome to the Datalounge Hari Kunzru, I think you'll like it here.

You fit right in.

^ Or Sarah Sanders

Please fill this thread up. I’m just prepping Part 3 with some recent updates and notable articles. (Do the same too, if you can.)

Or Smellyanne

Any further Twitter updates about Pence at the WH?

Isn’t that his job?

Hopefully they are pressuring him to resign. The House can show all the TV and cellphone footage - including the giddy and crazy Gloria dance - on the House floor.

His last two recent tweets are indicators of just how sociopathic he really. He has the empathy and self-awareness of a rock. Mary Trump pegged him but good.

Today's news: He has no intention of resigning and fucking coward, Pence will not enact the 25th amendment. We must wait 12 days, hoping that he doesn't set off a bomb somewhere.

Two of the most deranged Trumpers have been kicked off Twitter permanently.

r513. Make him somewhat accountable for his recent actions, humiliate him and, God willing, if Senate goes along, he won’t be able to run again.

[quote] Today's news: He has no intention of resigning and fucking coward, Pence will not enact the 25th amendment. We must wait 12 days, hoping that he doesn't set off a bomb somewhere.

I still can’t believe resigning is even an option for him. The only reason I can see for them allowing him to finish his term is to prevent further unrest.

Fuck. That. Rip his ass the fuck out of the White House, call in the National Guard, and do what needs to be done.

Impeaching the President with just 12 days left in his term will only divide our country more.' Statement from House of Representatives Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy:

“Let me be very clear: the violence, destruction, and chaos that unfolded at the Capitol on Wednesday was unacceptable, undemocratic, and un-American. When I spoke to President Trump on Wednesday, I told him he had a great responsibility to intervene to quell the mob and start the healing process for our country. Over the coming weeks we will work with law enforcement to bring anyone responsible for the violence to justice. Lawlessness and extremism have no place in our way of life.

“Our country is not just divided. We are deeply hurt. The task ahead for the next Congress and incoming Biden Administration couldn’t be more momentous. But to deliver a better America for all, partisans of all stripes first must unite as Americans and show our country that a peaceful transition of power has occurred. Impeaching the President with just 12 days left in his term will only divide our country more. I have reached out to President-elect Biden today and plan to speak to him about how we must work together to lower the temperature and unite the country to solve America’s challenges. The coronavirus is still coursing through our communities, businesses and workers are facing unprecedented stress, and children are falling behind. Threats from adversaries such as Russia, China, and Iran are increasing. As leaders, we must call on our better angels and refocus our efforts on working directly for the American people. United we can deliver the peace, strength, and prosperity our country needs. Divided, we will fail.

“Each passing day will offer us an opportunity to heal and grow stronger—a responsibility from which we cannot shrink. The United States remains exceptional and extraordinary, and in the coming weeks and months, we must work to recharge the light of our shining city on a hill.”

video of that Babbit woman being shot. Don’t view if you are squeamish.

He's not really the president anymore, top officials are basically not listening to him but are keeping a watchful eye. Someone on MSNBC said it's a "defacto 25th amendment".

Republican Kevin McCarthy --- what a hypocrite!! Wasn't he one of the congressman who signed the petition to challenge the Electoral College?

Now he's asking the Democrats to not be so divisive? Eat my shit, asshole.

[quote] When I spoke to President Trump on Wednesday, I told him he had a great responsibility to intervene to quell the mob and start the healing process for our country. [[bold]YOU’RE MISSING A FEW FUCKING DETAILS AND CONDEMNATIONS RIGHT ABOUT HERE YA RANCID BASTARD CUNT[/bold]] Over the coming weeks we will work with law enforcement to bring anyone responsible for the violence to justice. Lawlessness and extremism have no place in our way of life.

[quote]Could someone please explain to me, a clueless non-American, the point of impeaching Trump when he has less than two weeks left in office?

I just found this thread on Twitter R513. It was posted by The Steady State / NatSec Vets for Biden-Harris. I trust it will answer your question.

"Mr. Trump must be impeached because:

1) he retains pardon power and must be prevented from thwarting prosecutions of conspirators;

2) he attempted to destroy our democracy and must be punished for the attempt;

3) unimpeached he can run again in the future;

4) he retains benefits as a past President that should not be accorded a man who tried to destroy the republic;

5) he retains certain courtesies accorded to past Presidents that should be denied him and impeachment bolsters the case he should be shut out of those courtesies;

6) Congressional enablers must be confronted with their own complicity in the crime and force them to defend him on the floor of the House or Well of the Senate is the minimum they should face."

[quote]The United States remains exceptional and extraordinary, and in the coming weeks and months, we must work to recharge the light of our shining city on a hill.

Oh, FFS! is there any cliché he could have possibly missed? DId he miss calling the Capitol "The People's House"?

And that's the kind of thinking that helped get us into this mess. These "patriots" are the problem. They are so convinced that "true Americans" are inherently extraordinary and exceptional, and so is our country, that you can't question or try to correct its/our faults. That's why they think victims of white supremacy are the problem, for example.

Also, what R537 said.

r534 - Oh, blow it out yer hole, McCarthy!

R539 Thanks. Share it in Part 3.

[quote] if we can seat a SCOTUS judge in a matter of days, time is not the problem.

BINGO!!

The GOP bogus excuse regarding impeachment has no legs.

R539 I’ll post it then

[quote] Could someone please explain to me, a clueless non-American, the point of impeaching Trump when he has less than two weeks left in office?

If for nothing else, if he is impeached, tried, and convicted he would lose all post POTUS benefits. No pension, no Secret Service protection, no money for office space and staff, no nothing.

R545, that would be so delicious and fitting. Too bad it's up to those cowardly, mealy-mouthed Republican senators.

Bill Kristol:

One year ago: We shouldn't impeach Trump, let the voters decide.

Now (when the voters have decided, and Trump has tried to undermine and overturn a free and fair election, including by inciting violence): It's too late to do anything.

For some, there's always an excuse.

Pelosi Statement Following Virtual Meeting of the House Democratic Caucus

JANUARY 8, 2021 PRESS RELEASE Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement following a virtual meeting of the House Democratic Caucus this afternoon:

“Today, the House Democratic Caucus had an hours-long conversation that was sad, moving and patriotic. It was a conversation unlike any other, because it followed an action unlike any other.

“It is the hope of Members that the President will immediately resign. But if he does not, I have instructed the Rules Committee to be prepared to move forward with Congressman Jamie Raskin’s 25th Amendment legislation and a motion for impeachment. Accordingly, the House will preserve every option – including the 25th Amendment, a motion to impeach or a privileged resolution for impeachment.

“With great respect, our deliberations will continue.”

R548 Thanks for keeping us updated, babe!

Also banned on Twitter.

Poor Sidney.

In the past few hours:

- Michael Flynn banned from Twitter

- Sidney Powell banned from Twitter

- Donald Trump banned from Twitter

- Parler given 24 hour ultimatum from App Store

- House to introduce impeachment resolution on Monday

- Pelosi told generals to hide nukes

- Trump tweets from @POTUS and Twitter deletes tweets

R551, Ron Watkins and Jim Watkins, the father and son who are allegedly Q, we’re also banned from Twitter.

All this suggests there’s going to be another attack and they’re trying to button it down.

From another poster in Part 2:

Ron Watkins and Jim Watkins, the father and son who are allegedly Q, we’re also banned from Twitter.

All this suggests there’s going to be another attack and they’re trying to button it down.

[quote] I need Buttigieg to speak on this. I want to hear from him.

Why? Just because he's gay? Idiot.

R552 That’s you! lol

Why isn’t Giuliani being banned from EVERYWHERE?

R556 isn’t he mum?

[quote] Why isn’t Giuliani being banned from EVERYWHERE?

We may need him because he inadvertly lets people know what they're doing.

All of this is just TOO DELICIOUS!

It has to be fattening...

r539 Impeachment doesn't do any of those things. He has to be convicted and removed.

R489's post has aged perfectly.

Support for Trump supporters breaking into the US Capitol via new PBS/Marist poll:

All Americans:

8% support

88% oppose

Republicans:

18% support

80% oppose

Democrats:

3% support

96% oppose

Love you, PT 😘

Also, those numbers are reassuring.

They should have also asked how many would still have voted for Trump if the election were being held again today. I'm willing to bet the numbers would be MUCH higher.

I keep telling people that r560 and they either ignore me or yell at me about it.

At this late date it's shocking how many people still get impeachment and conviction confused.