Figure Skating 2021

RUSSIA National Champions results

1. Anna Shcherbakova 264.10

2. Kamila Valieva 254.01

3. Alexandra Trusova 246.37

4. Daria Usacheva 230.56

5. Maiia Khromykh 211.91

6. Elizaveta Nugumanova 204.63

Men

1 Mikhail Kolyada 296.15

2 Makar Ignatov 265.37

3 Mark Kondratiuk 260.31

4 Andrei Mozalev 252.92

5 Alexander Samarin 251.38

6 Anton Shulepov 249.89

Pair

1 Tarasova/Morozov 228.23

2 Boikova/Kozlovskii 224.99

3 Pavliuchenko/Khodykin 221.39

4 Mishina/Galliamov 211.95

5 Panfilova/Rylov 207.03

6 Kadyrova/Balchenko 196.04

Ice Dance

1 Stepanova/Bukin 220.16

2 Zagorski/Guerreiro 210.94

3 Skoptcova/Aleshin 196.97

4 Shevchenko/Eremenko 194.29

5 Khudaiberdieva/Bazin 192.68

6 Morozov/Bagin 182.86

JAPAN

Ladies

1. Rika Kihira - 234.24

2. Kaori Sakamoto - 222.17

3. Satoko Miyahara - 209.75

4. Rino Matsuike - 204.74

5. Mai Mihara - 203.65

MEN

1. Yuzuru Hanyu 319.36

2. Shoma Uno 284.81

3. Yuma Kagiyama - 278.79

4. Keiji Tanaka - 238.83

5. Shun Sato - 236.52

6. Kazuki Tomono - 223.16

ICE DANCE

1 Komatsubara/Koleto 175.23

2 Muramoto/Takahashi 151.86

3 Fukase/Cho 145.18

4 Hirayama/Tateno 143.40

5 Yajima/Ikeda 118.87

I watched the Russian and Japanese Grand Prix events... I think those are different from the nationals though. The Russian girls are of course athletically gifted, but IMO they are so boring to watch. Every girl has the same combos, every girl arms over head on triple lutz. The Japanese still skate in an artistic way that I think is more fun to watch and more ballet-like and traditional.

Russian jumping bots are always boring.

Kihira today in the FS

Russianboat winner

Kolyada FS

Hanyu new FS

Takahashi in an old-fashioned classic by Zueva

I feel sorry for Shoma Uno. Hanyu will never retire. Her ego won't let her.

Uno moved to Lambiel's

Russia had a lot of skaters with Covid.

Kostornaia, Tuktamysheva, Medvedeva

Aliev, Savosin

Stephanova, Bukin, Katsalapov, Sinistina, Zagorski, Shpilevaya (who was hospitalized, when she went back to ice, she immediately got injured and then retired)

Morozov, Tarasova, Galliamov, Kozlovski

More on Russian skating and Corona.

R9 Puhlease, I don't feel sorry for that little goblin and his cheated jumps at all - he's been gifted many opportunities and candies, including an olympic silver medal.

such anger r13. wow!

R14 You would be too, if he stole your medal.

When does Hanyu hang it up, a little long in the tooth.

agree r16.

I only watch male figures skaters, the girls are so boring.

R16 R17 Why should he? He's still head and shoulders above most of the men, including his tech. Chen's layout is a little more difficult, but he's boring as fuck. I would rather watch Kolyada or Brown jump triples than Chen jump 8 quads.

Chen is going to win his gold and then retire and get his yale degree and be something relevant, that is how it was always supposed to be done.

R16 He's practically a toddler compared to meeee.

R20 Hopefully, it's not something relevant to figure skating because he's a snoozefest.

R20 How sweet, is this the song you sang to little Nathan to rock him to sleep, Mama C?

Kayne/O' Shea split. Finally. Will she now pick her new boytoy as skating partner? He recently split his partnership too

WTH is the issue with this thread? I have to find it by searching for it every time. Does Erna want to stop us discussing the Most Important Sport of All?

Figure Skater Yuzuru Hanyu Sets the Path for His Third Olympic Gold

Papadakis/Cizeron announced they won't go to Worlds if they are held

US team is

Tennell and Karen Chen (Glenn who finished second at Nats dumped to alternate).

Chen, Zhou and Brown

Knierim/Frazier (if ISU change the minimum TES requirements to allow them in as they've not competed internationally), Calalang/Johnson

The usual 3 dance teams

H/D have a good program again, wonder what kind of shot they have at World's with P/C out.

I enjoyed Ladies at US Nationals. It was actually a competition and Amber Glenn's FS was a great surprise.

[quote]then retire and get his yale degree and be something relevant, that is how it was always supposed to be done.

was SUPPOSED to be, yeah...

Alysa Liu got really tall and, um... bigger. She also got gorgeous and pretty, she has the charisma, but not sure if her jumps will survive puberty. Amber Glenn is meh. Bradie is a machine, and generally consistent and clean, but really lacking in charisma.

I really liked Alena Kostornaia the best among the russian girls, but doesnt look like she will survive puberty and now she got covid. People joke that asians look alike, but watch the russian nationals, the russian bots, you cant tell them apart.

[quote]but watch the russian nationals, the russian bots, you cant tell them apart.

R30 I agree. I watched the Russian Grand Prix event a few months ago and every girl looks exactly the same and skates the exact same program. It's soooo boring.

Poor Kostornaia 😕 She Is the most interesting Russian lady but I’m pretty sure we won’t see her alone. Is her cute coach gay ?

So American figure skating is basically Nathan Chen, everyone else is irrelevant.

Plushenko is just flat out attacking the judges for giving candies to coach Eteri's bots - after he stol... well, adopted two of the Eteri girls for himself, who hate each other so much they have separate coaching teams and separate skating times at Plushy's rink (Trusova and Kostornaia).

So much yummy drama in Russia... and the US has Chen, Trumpist Zhou, and Tom Z. I mean, come on... well, we do have Mariah, who slashed the Korean girl Eunsoo's calf, on purpose - and Bradie Tennell who charges rivals during practice, especially Japanese Rika Kihira, so I guess there's that. What's up with vicious American girls - first Tonya, now these two sociopaths. Must be something in the water...

The Sinnerman short program really is that good. Thank God Jason Brown is still skating, there's more to it than just quads.

Jason Brown looks like he's aged about 10 years

(R32) Are you talking about Hot Sergei (as he's known on the internet). I don't think so.

Regarding Jason Brown, it's embarrassing that he can't do quads when 15 year old girls from Russia are doing 3-4 quads per long program. It's time to retire, Jason.

I thought hot Sergei and Alena Kostornaia were dating? Never mind she's 15. (or at least "going to the mall" together)

What is he? 35?

r39 I mean it is Russia

What?? Hot Sergie is dating that twat Kostornaia??? But she is 15 going on 12!!!!

Ughh Sergie say it ain't so! Be gay please *cries*

No, he's not dating his students. Let's not spread false rumors. But here's his Instagram.

I'm out of the loop on skating, Mariah Bell's got a bit of Tonya Harding in her? Bradie plays mind games with competitors? There's hope for the sport yet.

Besides Nathan, there's ice dance. Madison v Madison. And if P/C don't do World's, the results aren't entirely predictable.

And, yeah, the Eteri Bots are a bore. Alysa Lui is still only 5 feet. She's more interesting to watch than she was, but the jumps are gone. I have a soft spot for Bradie--she's the stork of skating, she ain't graceful, but she can fly.

R42 Fuckable.

Will Uncle Jason and Uncle Yuzuru be there for Beijing? They'll both be 27 in December. Time for the old folks' home, at least for top level skaters. The nobodies like Valtter Virtanen (33) of Finland go on and on and on... But I think you need to be in a small fed - or content to be 17th - to do that. Four or five quads in a free skate ain't for the elders.

It's even worse for the girls.

And those 15 year olds are out of the sport by the time they are 17.

Quads are hard on the body. Anyone skating in their 30s isn't doing them. I kind of think everyone's skating right now because there's nothing else to do. Nathan and Karen Chen can train full-time without trading off college. They're just not missing much with classes on Zoom.

I think that Czech guy, Brezina, was still doing a quad sal in his early 30s? Did he finally quit? He was Nathan Chen's teammate at Raf's place - home of slasher Bell, who just crashed out of Nationals - didn't even get the pewter medal (4th place). Ha ha ha. Raf had no time for her and Adam Rippon was coaching and choreographing for her - though I don't know if he still does. Hate that big eared freckle-faced oaf.

Not fond of horseface giraffe Bradie either. American women skaters suck. Though I wish Karen Chen could get it together -- still, with the Russians and the Japanese in command, what's the point.

Carreira/Ponomarenko leave Shpilband

Czisny apparently tested positive and infected a few people. She doesn't believe in Covid. What a dumb bitch!

Jason Brown looks 10 years older, and Evan Bates looks 10 times queenier.

Has Evan come out yet?

Ummm, Evan is shacked up with his girlfriend/partner.

That's what they say, but that boy is GAY.

Jason Brown seems close to coming out. He made an instagram story/post about the subtext of his most recent program and it was like he was cracking open the door....

How smart do you think most figure skaters are? I hear that the ones who actually go to school are often overachievers, but I've also heard that some expend so much time and energy on skating they have very little education. Someone (a gymnast) in another thread said that swimmers are all idiots, if you have the experience to compare and contrast.

New pic of Paul Poirier: 🔥

Women can wear trousers in the Free Dance next season. They finally changed the rules.

Can men wear skirts?

It's only fair.

[quote] Can men wear skirts?

Men must wear full length trousers

Another new pic of Paul Poirier:

Jason Brown? Go home, Jason. Nobody likes you. You are an embarrassment to yourself and your country. Thank you.

French National Championships concluded today

The winners are Kevin Aymoz (284.50 score), Lea Serna (170.06), Cleo Hamon/ Denys Strekalin (172.55), Adelina Galyavieva/Louis Thauron (194.28).

First international competition of 2021 (only the 7th of the season) is taking place in Italy with the Egna Dance Trophy

Rhyrhm Dance result

1) Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER (CZECH REP) 72.11

2) Jennifer JANSE VAN RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN (GERMANY )69.93

3) Carolina MOSCHENI / Francesco FIORETTI (ITALY) 63.05

4) Chiara CALDERONE / Francesco RIVA (ITALY) 58.37

Junior event is led by Loica DEMOUGEOT / Thèo LE MERCIER (FRANCE) with 68.61

R61 fuckable.

Yes, the Russian lady-bots are super boring. I watched Anna Shcherbakova program posted by R4 and it was dull. Her jumps, though, are very impressive and she's landing quads. The Russians are technically farther ahead of the rest of the world. Do any of the US women land quads? I lost interest in skating long ago as the new system became a point grab and made the programs predictable and boring.

The Russian women remind me of Evgeny Plushenko--great jumper but not a great skater. I like Hanyu because he's both. Chen is more of jumper, but he has worked on his artistry. The.artistry will just never be as natural for Chen as it is for Hanyu.

The new system totally ruined the sport. Sotnikova winning over Kim in Sochi was the final kiss of death. The Italian commentators were 100% right.

God, Italian is such a beautiful language.

Thanks for posting that, R66. I love those Italian commentators! The woman was asking why are they ruining our sport? I'd say it was already ruined. I trace the death of figure skating back to the 2002 Olympics where the cheating in the judging once again had a light shone on it with the pairs results controversy. The new point system and increased anonymity for the judges was the "answer" to the problem. Um, so ok, not more transparency? The sport has never been the same since.

Can we keep female figure skaters out of the discussion here, this is a gay men's forum after all, so nobody cares about the girls.

Well, this IS a figure skating thread, not just a male figure skating one. The American women have been irrelevant for many years, so there won't be much discussion about them, but there is just so much you can say about the male skaters' asses, other than ogling and wanting to eat them out.

R64, did you check out the other pic of Paul at R56?

EGNA DANCE TROPHY final results

Senior

1) Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER 178.48 (out of all potential FD choices, they went for a Tango for a sibling couple. But it doesn't look weird with their over the topness)

2) Jennifer JANSE VAN RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN 168.43

3) Carolina MOSCHENI / Francesco FIORETTI 160.27

4) Chiara CALDERONE / Francesco RIVA 142.63

Junior

1) Loica DEMOUGEOT / Thèo LE MERCIER 165.40 (they don't have the trashy Carmen FD. Now they skate on Papa, Can You Hear Me?)

2) Marie DUPAYAGE / Thomas NABAIS 141.99

3) Denisa CIMLOVA / Vilem HLAVSA 136.07

4) Lou TERREAUX / Noè PERRON 129.31

5) Cèlina FRADJI / Jean-Hans FOURNEAUX 126.33

Carreira/Ponomarenko switched from Shpilband to Moir

Moir will buy them points, no worry.

I would like to have Scott Moir as my coach :)

When they announced they were leaving Igor, I thought C/P could have gone to Zueva. Zueva seems really "dead" right now in the ice dance world

What are C/P smoking? Scott Moir has zero experience as an elite coach.

[quote] Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER 178.48 (out of all potential FD choices, they went for a Tango for a sibling couple. But it doesn't look weird with their over the topness)"

their RD is also quite camp

ISU updated the process to obtain the minimum scores to qualify for 2021 World Championships because of lack of competitions this season.

They now allow for a video to be sent for evaluation. This will be used by Knierim/Frasier who didn't have an international score given they are a new team.

Any more word on Alissa Czisny, R50? How did you hear that she has covid? And who else did she infect?

Peter Oppegard is being investigated for biting a skater during practices, among other things

What's the latest on Moir and his fiancee? That's one awkward looking couple.

R81 Michelle Kwan’s brother in law! What a creep

Grant Hochstein and Caroline Zhang are expecting a baby

Does anyone remember Eliot Halverson?

[quote]“I identify as trans because the sex I was assigned at birth does not match my gender,” Halverson explained. “My gender is non-binary. For me, that is a fluid mix of being a man and woman. [Nonetheless,] I feel safe, happy and comfortable presenting as female. That is why my pronouns are she/her.”

Sounds a bit exhausting, if I may say so.

R85 it will be interesting to see how the figure skating world reacts to this. Certainly some jumps will be far easier for someone born male to accomplish, and some countries will embrace that.

R84 Congrats to Grant and his surrogate!

R86 What do you mean, how will the skating world react? She is essentially a 30 year old recreational skater - who would care if someone born male can jump a euler?

R88 she’s the first but she won’t be the last

Results from the Challenge Cup (Netherlands) today

1) Loena HENDRICKX BEL 69.77

2) Emmy MA TPE 65.25

3) Maé-Bérénice MEITÉ FRA 61.35

4) Lindsay VAN ZUNDERT NED 59.01

5) Emilea ZINGAS CYP 55.05

6) Nelli IOFFE ISR 54.81

7) Maia SØRENSEN DEN 54.28

8) Kristina ISAEV GER 54.28

9) Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI 53.99

10) Anete LACE LAT 53.71

11) Jenni SAARINEN FIN 52.23

12) Regina SCHERMANN HUN 50.81

13) Andrea MONTESINOS CANTU MEX 49.29

14) Julia LANG HUN 48.17

15) Bernadett SZIGETI HUN 45.45

16) Viktotiia IUSHCHENKOVA ISR 42.84

17) Taylor MORRIS ISR 41.02

18) Victoria VELARDE PER 33.20

SHort Dance

1) Evgenia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA 65.68

2) Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS (HUN) 61.11

3) Chelsea VERHAEGH / Sherim VAN GEFFEN (NED) 53.32

Oppregard was busted with gay pornography in his luggage at customs en route to the Albertville Winter Games in1992. He married an Asian woman... isn’t that supposed to mean something?

Hendrickx won Challenge Cup with 204.68. Runner up was Emmy Ma (177.29). Wasn't she used to skate for US? Some girl representing Cyprus scored 171.30. French Meité was only 4th with 166.01 points.

Evgenia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD won Ice Dance even with 165.51

Men and Pairs have SPs tomorrow. Sofia Trophy will also begin tomorrow (only Single competitions). These are the last international events before World Championships.

Canada team for Worlds

Keegan Messing

Madeline Schizas

Emily Bausback

Kirsten Moore-Towers / Michael Marinaro

Evelyn Walsh / Trennt Michaud

Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier

Laurence Fournier Beaudry / Nikolaj Sorensen

Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha

they cancel it or not?

Apparently this is old news, but it's news to me....Kurt Browning has separated (or is divorced- it's not clear) from his long time wife, Sonia Hernandez. This is according to a strange thread on FSU - one that has some actual gossip on it. Kurt is accused of being rather a hound dog in years past, most specifically that he had an affair with Katia Gordeeva after her husband Sergei died. (Apparently Kurt's wife had to fly down to where they were on tour with Stars on Ice to give him an ultimatum.) Now Kurt is hawking reverse mortgages on tv and is living with....Alissa Czisny. I remember that he had done some informal coaching for her while she was competing, which makes their relationship a little odd . They are living together up in Canada at the moment....

There are straight male horndog figure skaters?

Ha, R96! There are a few...

R97 Agreeeeed. Have I beeen forgoteeen soooo sooooon?

R95 wasn't Alissa rumored to be hooking up with Jason while he was coaching her (and still married to Yuka)?

David Pelletier is another example of a straight male figure skater who is a pussy hound.

He cheated on his first wife with Jamie Sale. That lead to a divorce. Then he got remarried to Jamie Sale and is rumored to have cheated on her, too (although she is also rumored to have cheated with hockey player Craig Simpson). Then Sale & Pelletier got divorced. Sale is now married to Craig Simpson and Pelletier is rumored to still be messing around with lots of women.

Men SP at Challenge Cup was a mess,

Kolyada leads with 84.99 (popped axel). Frangipani is right behind with 81.04. Ponsar third with 81.03 and a fall and Saio 4th with 2 falls (79.49). Then the Turkish guys, Kvitalashvili, a never heard before Spanish guy in the 69-71 range.

Pair male skaters are pussy hounds

R100, isn't Pelletier married to Katia Gordeeva now?

R91, the word at the rink where Oppegard coached in the 90s was that he's bisexual. This was back before he married Karen Kwan. Kwan and Oppegard filed for divorce a few years ago but are still technically married.

Yes, R95, I remember hearing those rumors about Alissa, but nothing was ever "confirmed." But I remember those adoring looks she was giving him around that time when they were in the "Kiss and Cry" area, and thirstily accepting his hugs of congratulations after her skate....

I would like to do Nathan Chen.

I like it better when they fall.

For the aficionados here, is there a budding Anna Pagorilaya in the mix we should keep our eyes on?

[quote]Now Kurt is hawking reverse mortgages on tv

I'm surprised Kurt has to do t.v. commercials -- I thought he was a millionaire. Is he losing a lot of money in his divorce?

Does Browning have a day job? Coaching?

Jessica Calalang / Brian Johnson withdrew from Worlds for "personal reasons".. Cain/LeDuc will replace them.