Has this series aged well?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||02/22/2021|
Yeah, I would say so. There were some really good episodes along with a handful of forgettable ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/18/2020|
No. It’s on cable tv every night. FeTv.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/18/2020|
The characters scream at one another in every episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/18/2020|
R3: at least some of the things they scream at each other are screamingly funny in a way no US live-action network sitcom of the past 30 years has been.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/18/2020|
It’s aged better than Amanda’s.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/18/2020|
At least when Bea Arthur was having an abortion, she was only pretending that she couldn’t really have children in actuality. That’s more than I can say for Bitchlyssa MilanHO, whose show not only doesn’t even qualify for the test of time despite having the same production company, but who obviously used it as a form of birth control for years. And that’s just the two the bitch will publicly admit to.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/18/2020|
Maude was a fucken virago.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/18/2020|
Satire rarely does
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/18/2020|
No. I'm not a fan of Bea Arthur, and I saw enough family fights as a child back then. Pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/18/2020|
No it didn’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/19/2020|
... and then there's Maude!
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/19/2020|
CL, "It sure isn't Maude....
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/19/2020|
I just watched the two-part abortion episode, “Maude’s Dilemma.” It was very matter-of-fact about the whole thing. I think if it were done today, there would be great pains taken to “both sides” it.
This was before Roe v. Wade, so I don’t think it was a huge national conversation in 1972. The only thing that kind of surprised me was how insistent Carol was that Maude not have the baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/18/2021|
Last year I watched the entire series on one of the substations, from episode one right to the end, and it holds up surprisingly well.
However, they do tend to scream at each other in nearly every episode…
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/18/2021|
"What did I want with his power tools?"
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/18/2021|
It is airing in the afternoon on a local TV station in Toronto
Most interesting is that many times, the station airs a disclaimer saying "Parental discretion is advised"
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/18/2021|
I enjoy it, but it’s like a one act play. The sets never really change and I can’t distinguish one episode from the other.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/18/2021|
I'll take "Actresses Who Played the Same Character In Everything They Do" for $500, Alex.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/18/2021|
Adrienne Barbreau had quite big tits.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/18/2021|
One of the best theme songs ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/18/2021|
Not at all!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/18/2021|
my mother was a "women's libber" and loved the show. I found it annoying with all the screaming but she did get in some good zingers but her poor husband and daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/18/2021|
God'll get you for that, r21
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/18/2021|
The theme song still rocks. Love that B3.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/18/2021|
Carol's big tits will never go out of style.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/18/2021|
I'll never tire of Florida.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/18/2021|
It's really mostly held up well.
Occasionally a bit over the top, but I love most of the episodes.
It lost the plot a bit in the final year, and ran out of stories. But prior to that, it was very honest and well done. And Bea was masterful.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/18/2021|
I love it. I enjoy it more than I like The Golden Girls. But, I can understand are argument that it's somewhat dated. After all, those episodes are nearly 50 years old at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/18/2021|
Maude is (still) an excellent and amusing show. I have the complete series on DVD (after watching the entire show for the first time on Antenna TV). I even visited Tuckahoe, NY, because of the show. Maude lives on Elm St. in Tuckahoe. Yes, there is an actual Elm St. in Tuckahoe but it's a very short street in the business district, without any houses.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||02/18/2021|
The house they used for exterior shots as Maude's house is located in Claremont, CA.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/18/2021|
BTW, The Golden Girls house is in Brentwood. This is what the interior really looks like.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/18/2021|
I used to run home from the Boy Scouts to watch Maude !!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/18/2021|
better than Angie
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/18/2021|
Watching Bea as Maude on All In The Family showed how good she could be in the role when she was surrounded by a good cast. The supporting cast in the series Maude was just dreadful.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/18/2021|
R34 I don't agree. Yes, Adrienne Barbeau and Esther Rolle were pretty limited. But Bill Macy, Rue McClanahan, Conrad Bain, and Hermione Baddeley were all top notch supporting players.
I would say the series biggest problem was inconsistent scripts. While there are great episodes, it wasn't as uniformly well written as All in the Family.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||02/19/2021|
Bill Macy was pretty good in it. Walter could have easily degenerated to being a door mat for Maude. He was always very close, but Macy was able to hold his own against Maude/Athur - who was quite the bully.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||02/19/2021|
It's SO STRANGE to hear BLANCHE with that YANKEE accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||02/19/2021|
It's even stranger to hear Mr. Drummond take the conservative point of view instead of that of the whitesplaining mainsplaining str8splaining neoliberal oligarchs he usually sticks up for. Ah, who am I kidding? Both he and Arthur Harmon were whitesplainers, mansplainers, and str8splainers.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||02/19/2021|
[quote] I would say the series biggest problem was inconsistent scripts. While there are great episodes, it wasn't as uniformly well written as All in the Family.
I don't think [italic]All in the Family[/italic] holds up as well as Norman Lear's other shows. Any of the post-Jeffersons pre-Stephanie episodes that focus on the Meathead are literally painful to watch. He could be as sexist as Archie was racist. He even once accused Gloria of trying to make baby Joey gay through overprotective mothering (Ricky Schroder's mother makes me wish that was true). Now I know why they got five more years without him. Even excluding [italic]Archie Bunker's Place[/italic], the worst episodes of AitF were cringeworthy. The worst episodes of [italic]Maude[/italic] were just unmemorable. At least Bea Arthur knew when to quit both here and on GG. Carroll O'Connor kept milking the cow until it was dry. And when Ol' Golf Hat, tried to go back for one last glass of milk, all that was left was a bag of bones. Remember the show from the 1990s about the Black family living in Archie's house?
I'd honestly even rather watch the Axis of Teenage Angst that [italic]Diff'rent Strokes, The Facts of Life[/italic], and [italic]Silver Spoons[/italic] constituted. Along with [italic]227[/italic] and [italic]Married with Children[/italic], the only post-Lear Embassy shows that were hits, those shows make me question whether Lear himself added all that much of value to the mix because they had plenty of flops that he actually got credited for. His writers, directors, producers, and actors could still do good work without him breathing down their necks. But everything he has tried that wasn't a reboot has been a failure. [italic]The Powers that Be[/italic]? Flop. [italic]Sunday Dinner[/italic]? Flop. The animated [italic]Channel Umptee-3[/italic]? Flop. They didn't even want his pilot about a retirement home because Fox beat him to it with that stupid [italic]Cool Kids[/italic] show, and it flopped, too.
And I still think Lear has a serious issue with Black men. Other than Lester Jenkins on [italic]227[/italic] which he had nothing to do with, every Black male father figure on an Embassy show is either a bigot or a bully, and it is usually other Black men who get the worst of it. Threats of violent corporal punishment are punctuated by uproarious laughter from the studio audience they gloat about having. On this show, Victoria's father is typical of that attitude. He's demanding, stubborn, and sexist. Maude herself says, "I never thought I'd say this to a Black man, but I don't like you."
|by Anonymous||reply 39||02/19/2021|
Everything he has tried in TV in the past 40 years, that is.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||02/19/2021|
Conrad Bain as "Arthur" was underrated. After Bea, he's my favorite on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||02/19/2021|
R19, SNL did a sketch called the Man Show (I think) with Gary Busey and the men on the panel were asked their favorite actress; Adrienne won across the board.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||02/19/2021|
Walter, Vivian, and Mrs. Naugatuck were the best characters.
Maude and Arthur both deserved each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||02/19/2021|
R34 I’ve written about that before here and I totally agree with you. The scenes with “Mawde” and Archie are so damn funny and a big part of why is because you had two immense talents bringing out the best in each other. Maude is totally lopsided because all the actors/characters are basically “serving” Bea punchlines and she just looks like a bully too much of the time.
I know Bea preferred not to be in an ensemble but great talents are best performing with other “great talents.” MTM was smart enough to know that. And that’s why the Golden Girls will always be so much better to me (and for some other reasons as well). I also thought Dorothy Z was a much more realistic (and funny) character - although I guess it depends how you like your “Bea served.”
The Maude theme song is the fucking best, though. And I do appreciate how politically incorrect it could be - and get away with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||02/19/2021|
She actually was a bully on GG. In the last season, how many times did she threaten Sophia's life?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||02/19/2021|
R45 that’s because Sophia was an abusive cunt (especially S7) who drove her fucking nuts. It was funny because almost all of us would do the same thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||02/19/2021|
That's because Maude wasn't Italian.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||02/19/2021|
Did Maude and Sue Ann Nivens fuck on the set of Golden Girls?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||02/19/2021|
Rue was at her prettiest here. Bea looks much better in GG.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||02/19/2021|
Rue looks 10 years older on Maude than she did on GGs.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||02/19/2021|
Bea had an excellent facelift between Maude and GG, and she lost a ton of weight. She looked much better on GG.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||02/19/2021|
R29- I grew up near Tuckahoe. There used to be a restaurant there called MAUDES.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||02/19/2021|
Could they afford to live in Tuckahoe today?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||02/19/2021|
She was the TERFiest TERF who ever TERFed. Seriously, even Pat Robertson is more progressive.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||02/19/2021|
I don't think Tuckahoe is particularly expensive today and besides the Finlay's were Upper Middle Class. They could probably afford it anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||02/19/2021|
It's a bargain compared to New York City.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||02/19/2021|
Thanks to this thread, I pulled out my discs of the show and started on season 2. Walter facing the fact that he's an alcoholic is a combination of humor and personal drama that makes more of a point in 50 minutes than "The Lost Weekend" and "Days of Wine and Roses" did in two hours each.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||02/19/2021|
R50 absolutely. She also looked older on the first season of GG than the last (in fact, she basically got younger looking every season).
Also, she was a total non entity on Maude. Even though it’s my opinion that she was the best actress on GG, unlike Bea and Betty, whom I’ve liked or loved in just about anything else, I’ve never cared for her in any other role. She really was born to play Blanche.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||02/19/2021|
Rue was 14 years younger than Bea, but Maude and Vivian were supposed to be the same age (they were friends since college) so I believe they aged up Rue a bit with the gray hair and dowdy clothes to make her look significantly older.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||02/19/2021|
How progressive of her to exploit the labor of Black and immigrant women and call that female solidarity.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||02/22/2021|