She just keeps winning.
Leslie Buckingshit who?
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She just keeps winning.
Leslie Buckingshit who?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||01/14/2021|
Damn how the hell much money does this woman need? I guess at her age the royalties don’t matter long term.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/06/2020|
And she doesn’t have any kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/06/2020|
She’s already very rich. I guess at her age she can care less now. She has no one to pass her fortune onto.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/06/2020|
She has ME, r3!
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/06/2020|
Debbie Harry and Chris Stein just did this with the Blondie songs they wrote.
Apparently it's a trend.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/06/2020|
R3 CAN’T care less
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/06/2020|
She keeps rolling in the dough.
She probably didn’t want anyone from Fleetwood to have the rights to her music
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/07/2020|
Bob Dylan just sold his to Universal - everyone is selling out and cashing in
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/07/2020|
You can't be too thin or too rich.
You can smoke too much though - does she still have that rasp?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/07/2020|
[quote]Apparently it's a trend.
They want to cash out before Biden raises taxes.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/07/2020|
R10 so happy Biden is doing that to the rich. They’re shitting themselves
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/07/2020|
[quote] You can't be too thin or too rich.
I suppose that’s why she’s doubling down on the rich part.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/07/2020|
$100M buys a lot of ass blow
|by Anonymous||reply 13||12/07/2020|
Olivia Newton-John did the same last month with Prime Wave.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/07/2020|
Did they learn knowing from TSwift’s trials and tribulations, or are they just all In to recording their old albums to make all the purest buy them to have the full collection?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/07/2020|
Lindsey and Christine sold their catalogue long ago. Go Your Own Way keeps popping up in car commercials. R15 Stevie is close to death and probably doesn't give a shit anymore. Taylor is young and wants the ability to control how her songs are used.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/07/2020|
[quote]Bob Dylan just sold his to Universal - everyone is selling out and cashing in
Which makes Taylor Swift look like a psycho for all the messy drama she caused over Scooter Braun buying and then selling her masters. That's how the industry works and most artists are making millions from it.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/07/2020|
R17. Maybe Taylor would like to decide how her music is used? She is very protective of her music and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/07/2020|
Stevie isn’t near death
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/07/2020|
R18, Taylor has always had control over how her music is used. No one can use it for anything unless she personally gives her okay first, regardless of who owns her masters. She's just crazy and vindictive.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/07/2020|
"Go Your Own Way" has been in about three different commercials this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/07/2020|
The OP is an idiot. Signing away your copyrights seems like kind of an act of desperation. I mean, WHY give away what you created to a greedy, soulless corporation? For the money? Surely she doesn't need any more money; she's constantly bragging about how rich she is. I think it's probably some form of dementia setting into her little pea brain.
Bob Dylan has struck a deal like this too. He sold his entire catalog of songs, which encompasses more than 600 songs over 60 years, in a "landmark agreement" with Universal Music Publishing Group. If she got $100 million then he must be getting 1000 million. Dylan seems to be getting rather teched in his old age too.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/07/2020|
Why is fat Edwin obsessed with Stevie...
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/07/2020|
Has Madonna done this, too?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/07/2020|
R22 Dylan got $300 million, but Dylan's likeness is not worth as much as Stevie's. I do wonder how much of the $100 million is the rights to use her witchy image for Halloween costumes and whatnot. Her solo catalogue has a bunch of other writers and she only got 3-4 songs on the big selling Fleetwood Mac albums.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/07/2020|
R21 'Everywhere' was featured in a very popular UK commercial that became something of a meme.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||12/07/2020|
R22 OP is fat Edwin, of course he is an idiot. Fat Edwin is also R25
|by Anonymous||reply 27||12/07/2020|
R27, are you schizophrenic? Take your meds.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/07/2020|
R28 “take your meds” isn’t the gotcha you think it is Fat Edwin! You are the one that has mental illness.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/07/2020|
Dylan got $300 million. Bigger catalog than Stevie's, but not as commercial. She sold an 80% share in hers for the $100 million.
As for why they are selling out now, it makes sense given their ages. They get a big payoff upffont to spend/live on for the rest of their lives. And managing one's music catalog is neither cheap nor easy. Shift the burden to a firm and just leave your heirs what cash remains after your death.
If Frank Zappa had done this, there wouldn't have been anything for his kids to fight about. They'd have just inherited cash, and would not have had to deal with rights management and permissions.
Everyone in Fleetwood Mac is notoriously profligate, which is why they kept touring. Assuming Nicks lives another 10-15 years, there might not be much of that money left. But that's the bonus of being single and childfree - no nagging sense that you have to provide for your heirs.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/07/2020|
I wonder if this huge payday for Stevie means no more touring for Stevie with Fleetwood Mac and a big FU to Mick Fleetwood. Mick has no writing credits so he need always to tour. Mick must be strapped for cash.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||12/07/2020|
right now, you make money off touring and not royalties. She is making bank. It hard (and expensive) to manage royalties.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/07/2020|
It seems like nobody, except TSwift, learned from the Paul McCartney/Michael Jackson debacle. Michael asked Paul for advice and he said buying up music catalogs was a good investment and then Michael went out and purchased those of the Beatles and Paul was pissed.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/07/2020|
R33 Holding onto your catalogue makes less sense as you get older. Look what happened with Frank Zappa's kids. They're all fighting over rights to his songs. If Zappa had sold the rights before he died and left his kids with cash instead, they wouldn't be at each other's throats. Taylor has many years ahead of her so of course she should want to hold onto her catalogue. Stevie and Dylan have 10 years left until they start shitting their pants. It makes sense to get their affairs in older while they are still sound of mind.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||12/07/2020|
Stevie is a bit of a attention queen. She always said on interview, "I love Lindsey blah blah blah", when Lindsey has no intention of talking to him.
Love her on Fleetwood Mac, her nose was ruined by coccaine already when she began solo career. Now she sounded like she had a cold.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/07/2020|
R2 R3 She has a niece and a great nephew. She also has a lot of "god babies" she could leave the money to. Stevie always said that her words/songs were like her children, I guess she just sold 80% of her children.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||12/07/2020|
I’m sure most of you wouldn’t care about owning the rights to your songs in your 70s also.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||12/07/2020|
How the hell many sock accounts does Edwina have? I've blocked him several times, yet I saw this thread and all his comments on it. Some on this board get bitchy when we complain about Edwina, but there's so many of his accounts that we're justified in complaining.
Note to Edwina: Thanks for at least not posting a thread about TikTok/IG/Twitter whores for once. And block me...please, I beg you!
|by Anonymous||reply 38||12/07/2020|
OP is a lesbian, hence the "Leslie Buckinshit" insult.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||12/07/2020|
Somehow, I imagine Stevie’s request is going to be having her coffin filled to overflowing with coke for when she’s buried.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||12/07/2020|
R2 She has one neice from her ailing younger brother. I wouldn’t be surprise if Stevie took her off the will and gave all the control to her long time assistant Karen who is known to pushed everyone who Stevie is close to out of the way.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||12/07/2020|
R38 Over a dozen accounts for sure. Muriel turns a blind eye and lets fat Edwin go hog wild.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||12/07/2020|
R39 OP is pictured at R27 and r29, it is not a lesbian just a fat and bald mentally ill gay man.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||12/07/2020|
R43 you are the mental patient here. Get help.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||12/07/2020|
R44 Fat Edwin you weak minded fool...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||12/07/2020|
She probably figures with COVID, she won't be performing for awhile with or without Fleetwood Mac and by them safety precautions will make it so expensive, she never make much. She should take some of that money and donate to music schools if she hasn't already.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||12/07/2020|
R43 Stevie doesn't want to dumpster dive in your rotten tuna can, you psycho lez.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||12/07/2020|
" They get a big payoff upffont to spend/live on for the rest of their lives. "
Stevie Nicks and Dylan aren't exactly struggling seniors. They already have enough money to spend/live on for the rest of their lives. I think their selling off of their copyrights indicates mental deterioration or maybe just sheer greed. Either way, it really is kind of gross.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||12/07/2020|
Or that they know they will make more selling it than otherwise
|by Anonymous||reply 49||12/07/2020|
I guess no one cares about the family business anymore. Mary Rodgers made money as part of the Rodgers & Hammerstein Association, right? Ira Gershwin's widow carried on his copyrights via theatre shows etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||12/07/2020|
R50 Stevie doesn't have many family members to manage her estate after she dies. Her brother had one daughter and she has no children on her own.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||12/07/2020|
Bob Dylan made the deal of the century bc his song rights are so coveted. He still has the rights to perform his songs (make money) and remaster them.
Stevie's is a similar deal. It looks like the company has to pay her a royalty, probably more like a licensing fee per year.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||12/07/2020|
What do you mean remaster? He doesn't own the masters, does he?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||12/07/2020|
Doris Troy, of "Just One Look" fame, sold part of her hit song to a company in order for them to place it in movies. It brought her money from the song than she had been getting in a long time. I think it was used in a Ryan Gosling movie, or was it Joseph Gordon Levitt?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||12/07/2020|
Bob Dylan can perform all of his songs, write new songs, or remaster any of his old songs in a new release. This is his.
The sale is old song recording or songs lyrics. If they need it changed and they want bob dylan to do it, they have to pay bob dylan to do it.
It looks like Stevie has a similar deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||12/07/2020|
I hope the money will make them very, very happy. But doubt it. Both Nicks and Dylan strike me as being very unhappy people. Maybe they think the money will help with that. I don't think it will.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||12/07/2020|
[quote]I think their selling off of their copyrights indicates mental deterioration or maybe just sheer greed. Either way, it really is kind of gross.
Maybe it is. But it's probably a big relief from being freed from a burden too. In Blondie's case they got screwed over so many times in the 70s and 80s, really crushed because their business dealings were so messy that they did not perform for over a dozen years.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||12/07/2020|
[Quote] The sale is old song recording or songs lyrics. If they need it changed and they want bob dylan to do it, they have to pay bob dylan to do it.
Anyone who wants to change song lyrics has to get the lyricist's permission. And the lyricist may allow lyric changes while refusing to give the new lyricist a cut of the publishing. It has been ever thus.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||12/07/2020|
[Quote] In Blondie's case they got screwed over so many times in the 70s and 80s, really crushed because their business dealings were so messy that they did not perform for over a dozen years.
That's somewhat of a misrepresentation. Chris contributed to write and perform with Debbie. They jettisoned members even after the group had reunited around the millennium.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||12/07/2020|
And Debbie's solo material was on Chrysalis, Blondie's old label.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||12/07/2020|
But they didn't perform as "Blondie" between 1983 and 1996.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||12/07/2020|
And "Blondie" is basically Debbie Harry and Chris Stein. Clem beats the skins, admirably. But Debbie and Chris run the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||12/07/2020|
[quote]Stevie is close to death and probably doesn't give a shit anymore. Taylor is young and wants the ability to control how her songs are used.
Except nobody is going to be listening to Taylor music in 30 years time.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||12/07/2020|
What of the Wallflower child Dylan had?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||12/07/2020|
He looks ever more like his father.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||12/07/2020|
"Olivia Newton-John did the same last month with Prime Wave."
Did she ever write a song?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12/07/2020|
I don’t selling this off for millions seems counter to being a Gypsy.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12/07/2020|
Or a witch.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||12/07/2020|
Olivia owns her masters, I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||12/07/2020|
Both of which she is known to be.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||12/07/2020|
I've read that Celine Dion, while not listed as a songwriter, has publishing interest in most of the songs she records. If Olivia did something similar, then she would be "a songwriter" even if a silent partner in the publishing.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||12/07/2020|
Do you know how many cauldrons one can buy for $100 million? Literally all of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||12/07/2020|
$100 million? Must be some drug purchase.
Or is Stevie now on a name-to-name basis with the drug cartels?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||12/07/2020|
Stevie sold at just the right time, coming of a TikTok meme. So many boomer artists have sold their catalogs this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||12/07/2020|
Wow, the older Jakob gets the more he looks like his father.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||12/07/2020|
In my last article for Forbes, I discussed why today’s acquisition market for music, movie and television content (intellectual property or IP) has never been hotter. Demand for content is at its peak in our new tech and streaming-driven multi-platform world of media and entertainment. Deep pocketed, well-resourced buyers abound. It’s a seller’s market.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||12/07/2020|
Does this mean they'll stop replacing music used in the background of TV shows and movies? It bugs me when they used song X on the soundtrack but replace it with some other song (that can be licensed for less money, I imagine) down the line.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||12/07/2020|
Dylan is 79 years old. And looks ten years older than that.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||12/07/2020|
For someone who’s not even considered a gay diva, Stevie has gotten a lot of traction on these threads as of late.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||12/07/2020|
J'adore stevie nicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||12/07/2020|
R79 Have you ever been to a Stevie Nicks concert? The audience is all gays and frumpy white women.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||12/07/2020|
I don't understand why Bob Dylan did this and her too? What's going on? Wouldn't you want that forever in your family?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||12/07/2020|
R82 Tom Petty and Frank Zappa's heirs have been fighting like dogs over their catalogs. Perhaps they want to avoid all this family drama and give them lump sums that they can invest any way they like?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||12/07/2020|
So now we're going to hear her voice selling everything from minute rice ("I Can't Wait") to mouthwash ("Stand Back")?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||12/07/2020|
[quote]Stevie always said that her words/songs were like her children, I guess she just sold 80% of her children.
It's better than what she did to me!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||12/07/2020|
R84 in the case of Stand Back, Prince's estate would be getting the $$$ for its use.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||12/07/2020|
R79 Fat Edwin and his 12 other accounts is suddenly obsessed with Stevie.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||12/07/2020|
R87 seriously, take your meds
|by Anonymous||reply 88||12/08/2020|
Is she dead yet? That just seems like what would happen after such a big event.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||12/08/2020|
stevie deserves MORE.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||12/08/2020|
$100 million. Can those songs earn that back? I guess it's hard to quantify -- like if they're used in a commercial, how can you know how much is sold because of the song?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||12/08/2020|
R90 definitely no. Stevie is one of the most overrated artists of the 20th century. She hasn't done anything interesting in over 40 years,
|by Anonymous||reply 92||12/08/2020|
R91 It's not just her songs. It's her image that's valuable. Imagine a line of Stevie Nicks Halloween costumes.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||12/08/2020|
R93 As witches and Gypsys! Trademarked so that anyone dressing as a witch or Gypsy MUST use an official one of hers.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||12/08/2020|
Stevie Nicks brand coke spoons.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||12/10/2020|
After taxes, she probably received about $63 million under the Trump tax cuts. That's still not bad if she's worth a few hundred million dollars.
What she got for this deal is just going to add to her fortune. No money worries is the Key.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||12/10/2020|
How much of that does her drug dealer get?
|by Anonymous||reply 97||12/10/2020|
R96. Don't forget managers, agents, entertainment lawyers, and all the fine print expenses. That's a few million in expenses right there. A lot of people are getting paydays off these deals.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||12/10/2020|
"No money worries is the Key."
She didn't have any "money worries" BEFORE she sold her soul (oops, I mean her catalog). Judging from the way she keeps talking about how rich she is she was set for life before she made this deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||12/10/2020|
R99 yeah there's no way she had money worries beforehand like David Crosby. It's all about getting even more money.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||12/10/2020|
I have a question one of you might be able to answer: Did Waddy Wachtel come up with the 16th note guitar riff from Edge of 17 or did Stevie? According to Wikipedia, Waddy Watchell claimed that the riff was inspired by "Bring On the Night" by The Police. but it's unclear who developed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||12/14/2020|
IF anybody came up with a guitar riff for Edge of Seventeen it must have been Waddy Wachtel or some other accomplished musician. It sure as hell wasn't created by Stevie Nicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||12/15/2020|
R102 That's what I suspected...but Stevie is listed as the only songwriter.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||12/15/2020|
When you're rich, it will always be easy to get you're hands on more $$$ because you're already in position to get more. That's why the rich always get richer.
It's all about position.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||12/15/2020|
There is a group of lesbians on Twitter that are deeply obsessed with Buckingham/Nicks. It's truly the cocaine soap opera that beings people together.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||12/15/2020|
*brings people together
|by Anonymous||reply 106||12/15/2020|
Thank you, thank you. Silver Springs is a great old song...
|by Anonymous||reply 107||12/15/2020|
Tango in the Night is such a fucking good album it almost hurts.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||12/15/2020|
Storms is an amazing song. That's all for Everyone is a fucking jam. I am drunk and listening to Tusk and It. Is. Amazing. Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine are such great songwriters.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||12/15/2020|
A vid of Kathy Griffin and Bett Midler calling Stevie Nicks and she mentioned Lindsey and her possibly hooking up again on tour.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||12/18/2020|
Almost $80 million is what she got before taxes, as it said in the WSJ article, that the deal valued her writing catalogue at almost $100 million. That is a long-term capital gain, so it won't be taxed at more than 20% right now, not counting CA state taxes. There is nothing wrong with selling now when a recent article said that some groups (Hipgnosis Songs, Primary Wave, etc...i.e. music IP investment companies) are paying up to 30 times what the catalogues are worth. Hipgnosis bought a 75% stake in The Dream's catalogue for $23 million in 2018. Most of the others don't divulge specific numbers. I can't blame her, plus she will still get a check for her remaining 20%, which I guess would be well into the six figures a year. What is wrong with wanting to solidify your financial security? If you bitch about her selling out, then did you pay $200+ for Fleetwood Mac tickets in the last 20 years? I did, and happily too. Who gives a shit?!
|by Anonymous||reply 111||12/18/2020|
I have never understood why this twirling hippie is so popular. Her music is so dull.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||12/18/2020|
R112 Her persona is appealing to women and straight guys in the 70s all wanted to fuck her. I agree that a lot of her music is samey, but her output from '75-'79 is very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||12/18/2020|
What is it with corny white bitches and Stevie Nicks? She's basic as hell and no one can tell me otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||01/13/2021|
I'm not the hip sort - what is "basic"? She has an unusual raspy voice and has chosen some catchy tunes and worked with superstars. And she's attractive. Or at least was when she was young. What else do you need in a pop rock star?
Who is not "basic"? Billie Eilish? Kylie Minogue? That tall one who loves to boink adolescents? (Taylor something)
Not being testy, I really have no idea.
Just being in a mega-band like Fleetwood Mac, one of the world's biggest-selling bands, doesn't seem very "basic" to me. Seems to me like she's one of the A-listers of rock - and the number of females on that is not too high. A dozen?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||01/14/2021|
R66 Established artist that don’t write songs usually refused to record songs unless they get part of the publishing. That’s where the moneys at.
Elvis wanted to record Dolly Parton’s “And I will always love you” but he wanted half of the publishing and Dolly told him to fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||01/14/2021|
"Elvis wanted to record Dolly Parton’s “And I will always love you” but he wanted half of the publishing and Dolly told him to fuck off."
Actually, it was Colonel Tom Parker who wanted Elvis to have the publishing rights, since he made all of Elvis's deals. And I doubt Dolly Parton as ever told anyone "fuck off" in her life. Porter Wagoner treated her badly; she didn't tell him to "fuck off." Instead she wrote a song about him called "I Will Always Love You." She actually really got back at him by doing that, since the song is one of her most successful efforts.
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