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Faye Dunaway vs. Jane Fonda‏

One is crazy (Faye Dunaway) and the other is an attention seeking phony (Jane Fonda).

Which one do you prefer (as an actress or as a person)?

Discuss

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by Anonymousreply 13711/23/2020

I prefer option 3.

by Anonymousreply 111/21/2020

Team Faye

by Anonymousreply 211/21/2020

I don’t think Jane’s a phony. I also prefer her as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 311/21/2020

What R3 said

by Anonymousreply 411/21/2020

That's a tough one OP. I like them both but I think Faye takes more chances. She had too, growing up dirt poor. Jane shows astonishing courage too but Hollywood royalty will always protect her. I mean, I so admire her for doing her workout video. No kidding.

by Anonymousreply 511/21/2020

Dunaway's the better actress.

And better stah!

Not that I'd want to be around when she's returning her videotapes or wants to know what the fish of the day is.

But Fonda can be prickly too.

by Anonymousreply 611/21/2020

[quote] Jane shows astonishing courage too

MARY!!!

by Anonymousreply 711/21/2020

I think Jane is a far better actress, so I prefer her.

I really don't care if Faye is a crazy drunken bitch, nor do I care if Jane is a self-important media whore. Notice how I changed OP's descriptions.

by Anonymousreply 811/21/2020

Careful where you tread, OP. I like Fonda, have occasionally loved her performances, and have grown to respect her more and more as she matures. I'd vastly prefer to hang with Jane than with crazy Faye.

But here was a Fonda thread within the past year, and some of her DL defenders are batshit insane. She is infallible and above scrutiny to them, personally, politically, and professionally.

by Anonymousreply 911/21/2020

Jane all the way, she's passionate about important causes and her work as an actress, she's beautiful, intelligent and can be kind of funny (I've met her more then once) Faye is a loon who's only interested in Faye, but I do appreciate her good work

by Anonymousreply 1011/21/2020

R10 Jane Fonda changes her causes as she changes her underpants.

by Anonymousreply 1111/21/2020

R11, you neglected to note that Faye changes her Depends.

by Anonymousreply 1211/21/2020

Jane. forever and a day.

Faye’s a cunt, and yes, she knows it.

by Anonymousreply 1311/21/2020

[quote]But here was a Fonda thread within the past year, and some of her DL defenders are batshit insane. She is infallible and above scrutiny to them, personally, politically, and professionally.

They're lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 1411/21/2020

Faye has starred in three undeniable classics: Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, and Network.

Jane has done some fine work, but none of her films have attained the same classic level.

by Anonymousreply 1511/21/2020

Why did Jane call Faye sad on Bravo? Usual reasons..?

by Anonymousreply 1611/21/2020

Jessica!

- Meryl

by Anonymousreply 1711/21/2020

I pick the one who almost hit my record of 4 marriages. The other one, I’d give the ax. Christina!

by Anonymousreply 1811/21/2020

I think Jane has been honest in all of her causes, but she has also let herself be defined by the men she's been with. By contrast Faye has always been her own person, as much of a trainwreck as that has been.

Both have had horrible plastic surgery by the way which ruined their great features.

by Anonymousreply 1911/21/2020

R15 is correct, and I say that as a Fonda fan.

I'm hard pressed to think of a truly great, classic Fonda film (as opposed to a great Jane performance in a merely good film). KLUTE and THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY? rise to the top for me, and they've both got problems. Almost nothing else does.

by Anonymousreply 2011/21/2020

"Faye has starred in three undeniable classics: Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, and Network."

That's true - and Faye gave great performances in all those movies. HOWEVER, she is the co-star or one of many co-stars them. Other actresses could have played the parts. In Fonda movies, she is the undeniable star without whom there would be no movie at all.

by Anonymousreply 2111/21/2020

Jane is cool as a cucumber and a great human being, Faye is a batshit crazy diva goddess. How do I choose? They're both my favorites.

by Anonymousreply 2211/21/2020

@r11, You can have more then one cause in your lifetime

@r19, I agree that she has always taken a submissive roll to the strong men in her life, but I don't think that diminishes her passion or dedication to the causes she champions even if those causes came from her men

@r15, "Coming Home", "Klute", "Julia" and "China Syndrome" were not exactly throw away parts, but my favorite Jane Fonda movie was made for TV, "The Dollmaker". She was great in that

by Anonymousreply 2311/21/2020

[quote]I'm hard pressed to think of a truly great, classic Fonda film

Wash yr mouth out! Barbarella is a true classic.

Remember how fascist Time magazine and the rest of the rags simpered over that tedious turd of a film On Golden Pond when it came out? It seems utterly bizarre now.

by Anonymousreply 2411/21/2020

Poll would have been perfect, OP.

Anyway:

As an Actress: Prefer Faye Dunaway. Melted into her roles better. Could act with just subtle facial expressions. Absolutely beautiful in Chinatown.

As a Person (My Perception): Prefer Jane Fonda. Jane seems like she has a better day-to-day life than Faye. Faye seems unhappy & grasping for youth. Sadly, reminds me of Brenda Dickson.

by Anonymousreply 2511/21/2020

@r24, "Wash yr mouth out! Barbarella is a true classic. "

Least we forget "Monster-in-Law" where Jane-shade on uppity J-Lo is movie legend

by Anonymousreply 2611/21/2020

Faye sucks. She’s scary. Jane has some talent.

by Anonymousreply 2711/21/2020

R26, uppity?

by Anonymousreply 2811/21/2020

Oh my god, on what planet is this even a debate? Jane is an icon, Faye is a punchline. No contest.

by Anonymousreply 2911/21/2020

Dunaway is a better personality that knew how to make her quirks seem like a performance, at the time her insanity wasn't in complete control.

Fonda is a black hole that keeps going no matter how age, personal setbacks and the opinions of others go at her. She gives the same performances now that she gave in the 1960s, leavened slightly by a more mature mindset and less of a need to please. But she still tends to be dull and whiney when she "acts."

R1 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 3011/21/2020

R29, attempting to be clever, does not understand what the word "icon" means.

Ultimately, actors are best remembered for their films and what they brought to the productions. Fonda made some very good movies, but no great ones. Not really. Go ahead and quibble.

Dunaway made three great movies that are among the best ever made, and she was central to their achievement. Fonda will be acknowledged but people will be watching Dunaway movies forever with more of a lasting appreciation.

by Anonymousreply 3111/21/2020

Piss off, R31!

by Anonymousreply 3211/21/2020

Nobody’s going to be watching Faye’s shit ok?! Give it up. They will laugh at her losing her shit in Mommie Deasest only.

by Anonymousreply 3311/21/2020

What is Crazy Faye going on about in this clip?

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by Anonymousreply 3411/21/2020

"In her 1971 book, My Way of Life, Joan Crawford had written, "Of all the actresses, to me, only Faye Dunaway has the talent and the class and the courage it takes to make a real star.""

by Anonymousreply 3511/21/2020

[quote] Joan Crawford had written, "Of all the actresses, to me, only Faye Dunaway has the talent and the class and the courage it takes to make a real star.""

How badly do I want to hear Faye as Joan utter those words out loud!!!

by Anonymousreply 3611/21/2020

I enjoy it when posters think they know shit but write things like “a submissive roll”.

by Anonymousreply 3711/21/2020

^^ I enjoy it when posters make condescending remarks about other comments that are vague and need explanation, but we never get one. Just hit and run onto the next thread

by Anonymousreply 3811/21/2020

Jane is rich. Faye is skint. Faye was better but now Jane rules.

by Anonymousreply 3911/21/2020

The queen claiming Dunaway's films will be cherished by future generations is laughable. She's only known for Mommie Dearest to anyone under 40.

by Anonymousreply 4011/22/2020

[quote]I enjoy it when posters think they know shit but write things like “a submissive roll”.

[quote]^^ I enjoy it when posters make condescending remarks about other comments that are vague and need explanation, but we never get one. Just hit and run onto the next thread

R37 wasn't vague and doesn't need an explanation if you can spell, and know the difference between "role" and "roll."

Are submissive rolls sweet or savory, R38?

by Anonymousreply 4111/22/2020

They are both the top female stars of their generation and general age group IMO. Both were stunningly gorgeous and both turned out great performances. I think that Faye might have the edge when it comes to turning out the most impressive characters in films that will always be considered greats (I disagree with the poster who said that no one under 40 knows her work - many fans appreciate great films and will both admire and respect iconic films from all decades - the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, etc.). Jane was more prolific IMO and has a greater body of work to assess. She was the more "successful" actress. When she was excellent, she knocked it out of the park as well. She never made a Chinatown however...

by Anonymousreply 4211/22/2020

Only Miss Dunaway can give us Planet of the Apes realness!

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by Anonymousreply 4311/22/2020

At her peak, Dunaway was stunning. Acting wise both were great. Nowadays, and for some time now, there is no comparison.

by Anonymousreply 4411/22/2020

I prefer Jane Fonda hands down.

There is no comparison between the two.

by Anonymousreply 4511/22/2020

[quote]"Faye has starred in three undeniable classics: Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, and Network."

[quote]That's true - and Faye gave great performances in all those movies. HOWEVER, she is the co-star or one of many co-stars them. Other actresses could have played the parts. In Fonda movies, she is the undeniable star without whom there would be no movie at all.

Um, other actresses could have played the parts played by Jane, as well. *knocks on your skull* Hello! ? Anybody home?

by Anonymousreply 4611/22/2020

My initial answer was Fonda because she has been in good movies, is a good actress and I like her so much more. After reading the posts, I really think Dunaway the superior actress, if you can put aside her personal wackiness and attitude. I can’t think of a really memorable Fonda performance other than many where she just played herself like China Syndrome as an activist or On Golden Pond as Henry Fonda’s daughter?

by Anonymousreply 4711/22/2020

Jane's plastic surgery is better. At least she still looks vaguely human.

by Anonymousreply 4811/22/2020

Faye was a more impressive actress (Network, Chinatown!), but I respect Jane.

by Anonymousreply 4911/22/2020

I never got the impression Fonda is a phony. She seems fairly down to earth and decent to me.

by Anonymousreply 5011/22/2020

R47 Dunaway was superior as an actress IMO, but I was really charmed by Fonda in Barefoot in the Park. I usually feel like Fonda is rigid and hard edged--I think it's because of the way she speaks--but in this little trifle she has a Samantha Stephens charm.

by Anonymousreply 5111/22/2020

Jane ruined her features by going the obligatory "I want to look like I'm thirty" route that every actress takes. There's more plastic in that face than in a Barbie doll.

Faye had bad mouth work done, but kept her other features intact. With the right makeup, she can still pull it together, like she did at the oscars.

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by Anonymousreply 5211/22/2020

Whoever commented about Jane changing causes all the time is plain wrong. She’s consistently been advocating for women’s rights, gay rights, worker’s rights, the environment, and less warfare since the late 1960s. Those are her core causes and always have been.

Here’s Jane at a 1979 event for gay rights. Very few, if any, stars of her caliber were publicly speaking out about this at that time.

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by Anonymousreply 5311/22/2020

That person confused her with Susan Sarandon. She and Tim Robbins used to protest anything that they could think up an argument against. I'm not sure if Robbins still does, but Sarandon is a professional contrarian and she deserves the ire and disdain many people have for Jane Fonda.

by Anonymousreply 5411/22/2020

@r41, That's it? A spelling error? What ever happened to, "Oh dear"?

Little Miss Spelling Bee wins one for her team

by Anonymousreply 5511/22/2020

"At her peak, Dunaway was stunning..."

That was over 50 YEARS AGO. And her "stunningness" only lasted three years, then drink took over.

Faye's cool as a cucumber doesn't work in many roles because she's too constipated. Anyone see her and Robert Redford as the romantic couple in Three Days of the Condor? Redford is too cool to work with another cool actress, and Dunaway could not alter her basic one-note nature and acting ability. Fonda, on the other hand, who can be brittle, was flexible enough to act successfully opposite Mr sitck-up-ass Redford in Barefoot in the Park and The Electric Horseman.

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by Anonymousreply 5611/22/2020

Young Faye had an odd Ivanka-like head. I wonder what she looked like under the makeup and four hours of raccoon makeup and plastic lashes.

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by Anonymousreply 5711/22/2020

Faye has a better filmography.

But Jane is a legend in every way.

by Anonymousreply 5811/22/2020

Jane is one of the most overrated actresses of our time. She's mediocre at best. She was praised because of who her father was. The way that Dolly outshone her in 9 to 5(her first film role) says a lot.

by Anonymousreply 5911/22/2020

I get the feeling from her that she knows and accepts she's a serviceable actress and that there are more important things in life. I saw a video of her saying Katharine Hepburn didn't like or respect her as an actress but that she respected Hepburn. Someone with a delicate ego and an inability to accept her own flaws would not have told that story publicly, and someone like Crawford or Bette Davis would have told it with seething vitriol. Fonda seemed kind of like, "well, she didn't think I was any good, and that's disappointing because I admire her, but I gave it my best."

by Anonymousreply 6011/22/2020

God, what a bitter old twat Hepburn was.

by Anonymousreply 6111/22/2020

And yet she has four Best Actress oscars.

by Anonymousreply 6211/22/2020

Hepburn was right about Jane, but wrong about Meryl.

Hepburn: Jane, I'll be blunt. You're a lousy actress. Let's just get through our scenes the best we can and then move on, shall we?

by Anonymousreply 6311/22/2020

R63, she said that!? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 6411/22/2020

Also, I don't know how Dunaway and Fonda can be compared, Faye is a much better actress. Mommie Dearest is more well known than any of Jane's movies. Ditto with Chinatown, Network, Bonnie and Clyde.

by Anonymousreply 6511/22/2020

No, R64, she did not.

by Anonymousreply 6611/22/2020

Fonda on Hepburn on Fonda.

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by Anonymousreply 6711/22/2020

Damn, Katharine spent a lot of time in bushes!!

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by Anonymousreply 6811/22/2020

Faye never gave as great a performance as Jane’s in The Dollmaker.

by Anonymousreply 6911/22/2020

Faye never gave as great a performance as Jane’s in The Dollmaker.

by Anonymousreply 7011/22/2020

Jane only got her biggest roles because Barbra Streisand turned them down first--Klute, Julia and Shoot Horses.

Jane owes her career to Barbra.

by Anonymousreply 7111/22/2020

"I saw a video of her saying Katharine Hepburn didn't like or respect her as an actress but that she respected Hepburn"

Hepburn not respecting her, isn't that a badge of honor?

Btw, Barbara Stanwyck lobbied for the role in On Golden Pond, but Jane wanted Hepburn!

by Anonymousreply 7211/22/2020

@r70, Yes, I was just a kid when I saw "The Dollmaker" and really didn't know who Jane Fonda was, but I was mesmerized by it and her performance

by Anonymousreply 7311/22/2020

Hepburn was a closeted mess.

by Anonymousreply 7411/22/2020

It's not just Jane, La Dunaway has a better CV than "Our Lady of Accents" Ms. Streep.

by Anonymousreply 7511/22/2020

R75, that's true actually. It's weird that for such an acclaimed actress, Meryl has been in a few truly classic movies.

by Anonymousreply 7611/22/2020

R21, those of us who watch movies not to crap ourselves over stardom but to enjoy the pleasure of film art do not confuse "name above the title" with a win in a X vs. Y match. You can reject my criteria, but replacing it with star power leaves Shirley Temple the greatest actress in history. So much for your logic.

The fact that Fonda "starred" does not make her often excellent movies better, nor does it leave her performances better. She's fine. I watch her in many things. I appreciate her. But her letting snot run in "Klute" is not the same as Dunaway's naked despair and hysteria in "Chinatown."

My favorite Fonda movie is "Cat Ballou," partly because it IS a group-acting movie.

by Anonymousreply 7711/22/2020

R76, it’s not that strange. The best films she was in were at the beginning of her career, when talented directors wanted to work with the hot new actress. As she developed more power, she selected projects based on what her performance would be, not on what the quality of the overall film would be. Her narcissism far outweighs her interest in creating art.

by Anonymousreply 7811/22/2020

R62, Two were awarded for pure sentimentality and a third was shared.

by Anonymousreply 7911/22/2020

R53, that was lovely, i had no idea.

R56, strangely, i find Dunaway more attractive in her more mature Network/Laura Mars period.

Both ladies catalogue win over Streep’s. The above comment on vanity is spot on.

by Anonymousreply 8011/22/2020

Neither Jane, Faye nor Meryl will ever reach the iconic superstardom of Miss Barbra Joan Streisand. She was THE superstar of the 1970s.

And the crowd said, "Amen."

by Anonymousreply 8111/22/2020

And none of them ever reached the icon status that Miss Connie Francis achieved in movies and music.

by Anonymousreply 8211/22/2020

Faye Dunaway—at her best, she’s the stronger actress, and was also more beautiful during her prime. Unlike Fonda, she was not born into Hollywood royalty and had to work her way into the film industry.

Jane Fonda - ungracious, self-righteous, snippy personality, no sense of humor. Pretty in a generic way, with no truly outstanding futures. Her second Oscar win for Coming Home is one of the least deserved in that category’s history, and she has terrible taste in film/young actresses (she’s a big Jennifer Lawrence fan).

I have a higher tolerance for bitches who don’t hide it than I do for bitches who cover it with a veneer of respectability. Dunaway wins for me.

by Anonymousreply 8311/22/2020

R52 Just the mouth, hah? What about her horror nostrils?

by Anonymousreply 8411/22/2020

Faye is a trainwreck. So, Faye.

by Anonymousreply 8511/22/2020

"(neither) will ever reach the iconic superstardom of Miss Barbra Joan Streisand. She was THE superstar of the 1970s."

You Streisand fans are ridiculous, assuming you're serious. That kind of logic would be like saying Burt Reynolds was the star of the 1970s, better than Pacino and De Niro. With one exception, Streisand's film work in the 1970s was pulp, her albums, with one exception, were commercial pop dreck.

Cheers!

by Anonymousreply 8611/22/2020

I love Jane. I devour anything I can about her, movies, books, anything. I think Faye was great in Bonnie and Clyde and in Chinatown. But, it's La Fonda for me. She seems like the kind of woman you could hang out with and chat over cocktails. Can't imagine Dunaway doing that. She'd want to be waited on and adored. Acting-wise, Dunaway's a real scenery-chewer. Neither of them can do (intentional) comedy but Jane has a wider range and she's more subtle. And still gorgeous. Meryl gives her the ultimate compliment in her AFI tribute. "She had an almost feral alertness, like this bright blue."

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by Anonymousreply 8711/22/2020

Has Faye ever done comedy? Jane can be very funny.

by Anonymousreply 8811/22/2020

Fay IS THE JOKE!

by Anonymousreply 8911/22/2020

Bette Davis asked Jane Fonda to present her with the AFI Life Achievement Award. And we all know what Davis said about Faye Dunaway!

by Anonymousreply 9011/22/2020

In the AFI tribute Meryl says that Jane taught her so much: "Look down. Over there. That green tape on the floor. That's you. That's your mark. And if you land on it you will be in the light and you will be in the movie."

This is Meryl's big moment in the movie (with the green tape . . . "Julia"), and Jane lets her have the scene all to herself.

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by Anonymousreply 9111/22/2020

Jane never got even a nod from her father regarding her amazing abilities as an actress. Yet she produced the movie "On Golden Pond" that won him the Oscar. She really does have a generous heart, like Meryl says.

by Anonymousreply 9211/22/2020

Faye Dunaway was funny in "Twilight of the Golds," though maybe unintentionally, as the Jewish mother.

by Anonymousreply 9311/22/2020

Jane Fonda also has an ugly speaking voice—I think it’s one of her greatest weaknesses as an actress. Faye’s is much more attractive.

by Anonymousreply 9411/22/2020

OP you ask the wrong question. Should be, "Who has the better eating disorder".

by Anonymousreply 9511/22/2020

I like Jane's speaking voice. Very non-regional American, smooth and sexy. Interestingly, Jane considers Faye a friend. She was having jitters about playing the hooker in Klute and suggested that maybe Pakula should hire Dunaway. Hmmm. Maybe not much of a compliment though I'm sure she meant it that way.

by Anonymousreply 9611/22/2020

Jane

by Anonymousreply 9711/22/2020

Jayne

by Anonymousreply 9811/22/2020

I saw Chinatown for the first time within the last 2 years. So, no nostalgia involved (like "Caddyshack," etc.). IMO, an absolute classic and maybe even a masterpiece. John Huston was crazy good as well, perfect villain. Faye Dunaway, more than Nicholson (for me), was the star, though.

Jane Fonda just doesn't have that kind of movie that she was a part of. She doesn't have the same subtlety that FD had.

by Anonymousreply 9911/22/2020

Also loved the chess scene (Faye) in Thomas Crown Affair.

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by Anonymousreply 10011/22/2020

Jane > Faye.

Jane is the real deal, and not a cunt. AND she has two Oscars. So suck on that, Faye.

by Anonymousreply 10111/22/2020

R101 = The type of "critic" who says "Because I say so."

Now she can tell herself she's pretty, she's thin and that her opinions matter to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 10211/22/2020

per IMDB:

Jane Fonda appeared on the December 6, 2012 episode of Bravo's Watch What Happens: Live (2009), and confessed that she auditioned for Bonnie, a role she wanted desperately, and was still angry for losing it to Faye Dunaway, ending decades-long rumors that Fonda had turned down the role.

It would have been interesting to see Jane as Bonnie in BONNIE & CLYDE. I agree that it's some of Faye's best film work, and I think Fonda took a very long time to develop as an actor. OTOH, Jane's bad-girl character, Kitty Twist, is one of the highlights of camp-fest WALK ON THE WILD SIDE.

Fun fact: Warren Beatty's first choice for Bonnie? Natalie Wood.

by Anonymousreply 10311/22/2020

How would you have liked to have been Sue Mengers managing both Faye and Barbra at the same time in the 1970s? Do you think you could have handled it? You can add in Ryan O'Neal to the mix just in case it wasn't challenging enough for you.

I don't know how she didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize for that amazing feat.

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by Anonymousreply 10411/22/2020

And people wondered why I stress-ate, R104.

by Anonymousreply 10511/22/2020

More Bonnies:

[quote]Ann-Margret was approached to play Bonnie Parker, but negotiations broke down over salary. Tuesday Weld was also offered the role, but had to turn it down because she was pregnant. Natalie Wood turned it down because she didn't want to be separated from her psychoanalyst, with whom she met daily. Other actresses considered included Jean Hale, Carol Lynley, and Sue Lyon.

by Anonymousreply 10611/22/2020

Can't imagine Faye as Bree Daniels in Klute, but can definitely imagine Jane as Bonnie in B&C.

by Anonymousreply 10711/22/2020

Not because I said so, but because it's the truth, R102. The Academy did in fact award her twice (and nominated her four times, to Dunaway's three), and while she has her detractors like anyone else, she has one of the most positive reputations of anyone in Hollywood of the last sixty years.

She's not the entitled repugnant harridan that Dunaway is. Everyone is aware of Dunaway's antics, and she has been called out for it for decades. I do like Dunaway in a few films, but I much prefer Fonda as an actress, and (while I've never met her), as a person.

by Anonymousreply 10811/22/2020

R93, Faye was in that "Three Musketeers" movie in the 1970s with Raquel winning a Golden Globe Award in the Comedy/Musical category.

by Anonymousreply 10911/22/2020

R107, Warren Beatty's first choice for Bonnie was former lover Natalie Wood, but she didn't feel she could be away from her Los Angeles analyst for the length of the Texas location shooting.

by Anonymousreply 11011/22/2020

R104, Sue Mengers didn't manage Streisand or Dunaway or anyone else. She was an AGENT, it's a different job, dear.

by Anonymousreply 11111/23/2020

[quote]She and Tim Robbins used to protest anything that they could think up an argument against. I'm not sure if Robbins still does, but Sarandon is a professional contrarian and she deserves the ire and disdain many people have for Jane Fonda.

Yes she has protested homelessness, hunger, poverty, human trafficking, rape/sexual abuse, human rights violations, LGBTQ+ abuse, environmental abuses, etc.

She was on the Board Of Directors, Amazon Conservation team. Worked/donated 15 years, traveled to the rain forest, narrated 2 films.

She's an Ambassador for UNICEF.

She has done substantial work for/supported AIDS & HIV, pediatric AIDS, Oxfam, UNEP, the Red Cross, Save The Children, The Trevor Project, Heifer International, Alzheimer's - Heart - Stroke foundations, Children's Aid Society, St. Francis Food Pantries/Shelters...and much more

by Anonymousreply 11211/23/2020

Jane all the way! And, yes, I liked 9 to 5, On Golden Pond, Agnes of God, Barefoot in the Park, Cat Ballou, and Steelyard Blues.

by Anonymousreply 11311/23/2020

That's unfair, R112. Faye was physically and mentally impaired most of the time.

by Anonymousreply 11411/23/2020

R114 Sorry, what's unfair?

by Anonymousreply 11511/23/2020

Whaddabout Jill Clayburgh vs. Marsha Mason?

by Anonymousreply 11611/23/2020

I've read Fonda's memoir and she sure has had an interesting life. The stories she could tell if she wrote about the whole thing. She said herself she had to leave a lot out. The threesomes with Vadim and the girls from Madam Claude, etc. Owning half of the United States with Ted Turner. Allusions to dark sexual fantasies as a child but never telling. Even though I respect her activism, I tended to skip over those parts. It was her rich emotional life and fabulous career that fascinated me. Sons and daughters of stars who go into showbiz usually squander the leg up they're given, but Jane led a charmed life. She says she's tried every drug that doesn't pierce the skin but prefers to be "present," a word she tends to overuse. She sees herself as kind of victim of men in her own need to please them unconditionally. Yet she not only surpassed her father in terms of career, she literally gave him "On Golden Pond"which resulted in his only Oscar win, five months before he died.

I honestly don't know much about Dunaway's life. I know her reputation as a diva bitch. I know she was with that hottie Peter Wolf back in the 80s. Did she ever do a memoir? I'd definitely read it.

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by Anonymousreply 11711/23/2020

Jane has always given off bisexual vibes to me. She has a masculine energy about her.

by Anonymousreply 11811/23/2020

R118, Jane revealed in her autobiography that she swam naked with Garbo.

by Anonymousreply 11911/23/2020

Poor Faye isn't getting much love in this thread. Poor thing.

by Anonymousreply 12011/23/2020

Jane has -7- Oscar nominations. How do we know her dad never told her she was any good? Did she confess that? Faye must be seriously mentally ill in addition to just being a bitch. I’ve never liked her in any movie... maybe Barfly, that was funny.

by Anonymousreply 12111/23/2020

Faye was phenomenal in Network. I first watched it maybe five years ago and I remember thinking I couldn't imagine anyone else in the role. Not the way she pulled it off.

Still, Jane is a cool chick. I really respect her.

They're kind of an odd pair to compare. Why are we comparing them?

by Anonymousreply 12211/23/2020

Faye Dunaway vs. Brendad Ickson would make more sense.

by Anonymousreply 12311/23/2020

Faye has done comedy, btw.

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by Anonymousreply 12411/23/2020

Both actresses have done sitcoms. Jane, of course, is in Grace and Frankie. Faye did a short-lived sitcom with Robert Urich called It Had to Be You (1993ish). Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 12511/23/2020

[quote]I honestly don't know much about Dunaway's life. I know her reputation as a diva bitch. I know she was with that hottie Peter Wolf back in the 80s. Did she ever do a memoir? I'd definitely read it.

"Looking for Gatsby" was written in 1995 before she went round the bend. It's well written and interesting, but she holds a lot back, especially regarding her marriages and drug use.

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by Anonymousreply 12611/23/2020

Wasn't it the drug use plus booe that aged her? Anyways, Faye did a good job of playing herself in Dunstin Checks In. Too bad she became Dunstin in real life.

by Anonymousreply 12711/23/2020

Does Faye still insist she gave birth to her hunky son Liam even though his father says she didn't?

by Anonymousreply 12811/23/2020

"Wasn't it the drug use plus booe that aged her?"

Don't count out the six, count em, SIX nose jobs.

by Anonymousreply 12911/23/2020

Faye and her glamorous "The Thomas Crown Affair" wardrobe confirmed my being gay in 1968.

by Anonymousreply 13011/23/2020

R128, "In a recent interview, Faye Dunaway's ex-husband has spoken out about how she is not the biological mother of her son, Liam, despite her attempts to convince the public otherwise. Faye Dunaway's ex-husband, Terry O'Neill has revealed that her son, Liam, was actually adopted."

by Anonymousreply 13111/23/2020

Ex-husband Terry is such an ass. Poor Faye.

by Anonymousreply 13211/23/2020

Late ex-husband Terry. He died last year.

by Anonymousreply 13311/23/2020

R131, that's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 13411/23/2020

Jane is more varied, subtle, moving, and simply better; not to mention, she’s an infinitely more interesting person.

My favorite Faye performance is in “Bonnie and Clyde”. The rest of her work is fun in that “Oh look, a riot of a drag queen!” type of way.

I do like them both, though, but Jane is beyond.

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by Anonymousreply 13511/23/2020

Jane still has something very special.

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by Anonymousreply 13611/23/2020

I prefer Fonda as an actress and Dunaway as a star.

by Anonymousreply 13711/23/2020
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