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So, who would YOU have cast for the two leads in Call Me by Your Name?

you gurls are so snarky about Armie & Timmy, so come up with better casting for the remake.

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by Producerreply 7411/23/2020

Shia LeBeouf or Logan Lerman for Oliver. TC is ok as Elio but many could have played him.

by Producerreply 111/21/2020

Richard Madden as Elio

Froy as Oliver.

John Travolta as the dad

by Producerreply 211/21/2020

Couldn't care less as one of them. I didn't think much of the movie to begin with as the other one.

by Producerreply 311/21/2020

Timmy as Elio. I read the book twice before I ever heard of Timmy, but I pictured someone who looked somewhat like him. There could be no other Elio.

Aaron Tveit was always Oliver to me.

by Producerreply 411/21/2020

Ross Mathews and Fankie Grande.

MARY!!!

by Producerreply 511/21/2020

OP. Getting shoved feet first into a wood chipper. Slowly.

by Producerreply 611/21/2020

Nothing was wrong with Chalamet, the problem was Hammer looked like a 40 year old pervert. They shouldn’t have cast anyone older than 25 in the role.

by Producerreply 711/21/2020

I loved them both but I’m still annoyed they played hardball about not showing dong and won. They knew when they agreed to be in the film what would be expected.

by Producerreply 811/21/2020

I'd cast OP and anyone else who calls Frogman Timothy Chalamet "Timmy" into the ocean.

by Producerreply 911/21/2020

And I would cast r9 in my toilet so he can eat the shit that comes out of my ass the very instant it comes out of my ass.

by Producerreply 1011/21/2020

Chalamet is perfect as Elio. Hammer was completely inappropriate for Oliver, even the bits where his actual real-life personality (asshole) overlaps with Oliver's he couldn't get it right.

Hammer could work as Oliver if a film is ever made of Find Me, because Oliver is full-blown asshole in that so all Hammer has to do is be himself, but he's probably too useless an actor even for that.

by Producerreply 1111/21/2020

I just know I wouldn't have cast Timmy. He's way too young looking. Armie is gorgeous and he was perfectly cast. He's a good actor. He may be an asshole in reall ife but he is a good actor.

by Producerreply 1211/21/2020

Nobody cares about Timotie Calumet.

by Producerreply 1311/21/2020

The actor playing the dad pinged more gay than timmy and hammer COMBINED.

The role that was perfectly cast was MALFADA.

by Producerreply 1411/21/2020

[quote]The actor playing the dad pinged more gay than timmy and hammer COMBINED.

Hadn't he been bi or something?

It was on TV here in London and I DVRd it. I need to refresh my memory.

by Producerreply 1511/21/2020

[quote] I just know I wouldn't have cast Timmy. He's way too young looking

THE CHARACTER IS SEVENTEEN

by Producerreply 1611/21/2020

Hammer might have been okay if the actor playing Elio were a little more mature looking. Given that Timothy was chosen for Elio, someone younger should have been chosen for Oliver. But the real problem, IMHO, is the script. The book itself was no masterpiece, but what little there was in the book was completely lost in the adaptation by (the way beyond his prime) James Ivory. So much of the story (in the book) depended on what was going on in Elio's mind, and that was completely gone from the script. I think a younger, more creative screenwriter could have actually made a good movie out the book.

by Producerreply 1711/21/2020

[quote]The role that was perfectly cast was MALFADA.

Mafalda, caro.

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by Producerreply 1811/21/2020

Literally ANYONE but Timothee Chalamet. He's so repulsive.

The rest of the cast is fine.

by Producerreply 1911/21/2020

I would leave Timothee as Elio but then get Michele Morrone to play Oliver.

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by Producerreply 2011/21/2020

R17 That is the main complication when adapting something from the page with a very heavy interior monologue on to the screen. Usually it is done with an extensive voiceover, which I think would have killed the movie, bogging it down making Elio seem too whiny and overly self involved. I think a lesser, and more inexperienced screenwriter would have defaulted to that, so in that regard I’m glad Ivory was there to save it from happening.

I actually think scenes like the bathing suit on the head and the sex with the peach are extremely well done conveying feelings, emotions and desires and much of that owes to Timmy internalizing the text, maybe even more from the book then they script, and improvising and exploring having some of those actual feelings. I think that is his strength as an actor, you see it all there in his performance. So, I disagree with you and he was given the Oscar for best adapted screenplay and I don’t think in any way that was because of his age or stature, Hollywood isn’t that kind.

by Producerreply 2111/21/2020

Agree the miscast was Hammer. In the novel Elio was 17 yo and Oliver was a 23 yo grad student. That is a hard age to cast and the pool of actors to pick from is limited. I would have gone with Jeremy Irvine as Oliver. He was very good in War Horse. Even though he is a Brit his physicality would not have overwhelmed pubescent looking Chalamet. The coupling would have been more visually appropriate less pedo. It would have been the sweet summer romance it was in the novel. Instead due to Hammer we got Lolita 2.0.

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by Producerreply 2211/21/2020

My ideal Oliver would have been someone like Bryan Greenberg around the first season of One Tee Hill, he was 24/25 but was still playing teenagers. Oliver ideally should be very good looking, but within the believable realm of an academic Jew.

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by Producerreply 2311/21/2020

Alex Pettyfer was 25/26 in this very Oliver-seque photo but he still had this aspect of boyish virility. Oliver’s story is about the end of boyhood, and Armie Hammer was already very visibly years into manhood when he played the part.

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by Producerreply 2411/21/2020

I don’t recall, was there a mandate, either explicit or implicit, that both actors be Jewish? Was it that there were limited Jewish actors in the age range of Oliver? Was there also a need for a “named” actor for the role since in reality Elio would most likely need to be an unknown? What of that one actor from Modern Family, would he have been a possibility for Elio? I saw that he’s playing an underage actor who’s molested by a talent scout in an upcoming movie, so it seems he would have been open to the role?

by Producerreply 2511/21/2020

[quote]Was there also a need for a “named” actor for the role since in reality Elio would most likely need to be an unknown?

Probably for reasons of financing.

by Producerreply 2611/21/2020

Judaism was a huge part of the novel since it deals with Jewish neuroses like masculine inferiority.

by Producerreply 2711/21/2020

Jackie Coogan and Errol Flynn!

by Producerreply 2811/21/2020

HRH is Ollie

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by Producerreply 2911/21/2020

Nicholas Hoult. I think he would have been about 25 at the time of filming and plays nerdy scholar well.

by Producerreply 3011/21/2020

I like the idea of Nicholas Hoult or Jeremy Irvine as Oliver and Logan Lerman as Elio.

by Producerreply 3111/21/2020

The movie was a crushing bore, and rather sleazy. Like a porn movie with all the sex taken out. Chalamet's poker face/absence of expression left you bewildered. Hammer was too old and though tall and model good-looking, exudes zero sex appeal.

I found myself looking at the lush scenery.

I just wouldn't have greenlit it. What was the point? It just gives Qanon more anti-pedo recruiting material.

by Producerreply 3211/21/2020

It’s an Ambient Movie

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by Producerreply 3311/21/2020

R33 Lol, I sometimes put on my iPad either the three Sujan songs on YouTube or the actual film on Prime to fall asleep to.

by Producerreply 3411/21/2020

Nicholas Hoult in the Armie role

by Producerreply 3511/21/2020

[quote] Nothing was wrong with Chalamet, the problem was Hammer looked like a 40 year old pervert. They shouldn’t have cast anyone older than 25 in the role.

I loved the movie, but I can understand why some people felt uncomfortable. Oliver may have been 23-24 on the page, but Hammer definitely looked much older. I think they were really going for the physical juxtaposition of slight, lean Elio with tall, beefy, all-American Oliver, but unfortunately the differences were so vivid that it also made him look like a predator.

They needed to find someone like a younger Matt Smith, who could carry the larger physicality but also would look like a man in his mid-20s, someone in a PhD program.

by Producerreply 3611/21/2020

A thoroughly bathed and meticulously groomed Charlie Hunnam for the Armie role.

by Producerreply 3711/21/2020

[quote]Jewish neuroses like masculine inferiority.

Doesn't this affect all men now?

by Producerreply 3811/21/2020

[quote]I like the idea of Nicholas Hoult or Jeremy Irvine as Oliver

[quote]Nicholas Hoult in the Armie role

[quote]A thoroughly bathed and meticulously groomed Charlie Hunnam for the Armie role.

Why all the goyim?

by Producerreply 3911/21/2020

It's pathetic that it's almost impossible to think of a young, 30 years old maximum actor today who could have played the part of Oliver. The role isn't even that complicated but it does require a sense of curiosity and some inner conflict, which Hammer can't pull off.

by Producerreply 4011/21/2020

"Oliver’s story is about the end of boyhood" - Elio's story could conceivably be about the end of boyhood r24, but Ollie is a grad student, writing a study on Greek philosophers, acting as secretary to a professor, about to get married and supposedly has a degree of worldly experience.

by Producerreply 4111/21/2020

Oliver definitely has to have a confidence, earned or not, and the ability to play a mentor of sorts to Elio (not in an obvious way, but by example). And so many actors in the late 20s age range play needy man babies.

by Producerreply 4211/21/2020

Lakeith Stanfield would have been perfect for Oliver

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by Producerreply 4311/21/2020

Kellie Marie Tran as Elio

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by Producerreply 4411/21/2020

Elio - Kevin Williams

Oliver - Mike Henson

by Producerreply 4511/21/2020

Oliver needs a cockiness which I don’t think is valued as a quality in young actors anymore. A great cocky actor like Aaron Tveit (who would have made a fantastic Oliver circa Catch Me If You Can) doesn’t even get good roles in Hollywood - the best he gets outside Broadway is a Hallmark Christmas movie.

Armie Hammer was never cocky, just spoiled and imperious.

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by Producerreply 4611/21/2020

Troye Sivan as Elio and

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by Producerreply 4711/21/2020

Stephen Amell and Colton Haynes.

"Call me by your arrow"

It doesn't seem as pervy as ratface boy and wannabe Batman

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by Producerreply 4811/21/2020

Ben Whishaw as Oliver.

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by Producerreply 4911/21/2020

Another one of them

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by Producerreply 5011/21/2020

Could Froy have pulled off Jewish?

by Producerreply 5111/21/2020

Timothee was perfect. Zac Efron IS Oliver.

by Producerreply 5211/21/2020

LOL @ zac Efron as an academic.

by Producerreply 5311/21/2020

I think we can all agree it should have Max Gail somewhere in it.

by Producerreply 5411/21/2020

R54 can you imagine if he'd played the dad, the one who suggested he'd had his own "explorations" in younger days?

by Producerreply 5511/21/2020

[quote]Could Froy have pulled off Jewish?

Why is the jewish thing important?

Why's Ben wearing lipstick @ R49? - I know he needs a makeover, but...

by Producerreply 5611/21/2020

Colton would have been good (looking) but can he act?

by Producerreply 5711/21/2020

Because r56 Elio’s particular neuroses about his masculinity stem directly from the Nice Jewish Boy dilemma:

Per wiki:

The nice Jewish boy is a stereotype of Jewish masculinity that circulates within the American Jewish community, as well as in mainstream American culture. In Israel and the parts of the diaspora which have received heavy exposure to the American media that deploy the representation, the stereotype has gained popular recognition to a lesser extent.

The qualities which are ascribed to the nice Jewish boy are derived from the Ashkenazic ideal of אײדלקײַט (eydlkayt, either "nobility" or "delicateness" in Yiddish). According to Daniel Boyarin's Unheroic Conduct (University of California Press, 1997), eydlkayt embraces the studiousness, gentleness and sensitivity that is said to distinguish the Talmudic scholar and make him an attractive marriage partner.[70]

The resistance that a Jewish male may launch against this image in his quest to become a "regular guy" has found its place in Jewish American literature. Norman Podhoretz, the former editor of Commentary, made the following comment about Norman Mailer's literary and "extracurricular" activities:

He spent his entire life trying to extirpate what he himself called the 'nice Jewish boy' from his soul, which is one of the reasons he has done so many outrageous things and gotten into trouble, including with the police. It's part of trying to overcome that lifelong terror of being a sissy.[71]

For Philip Roth's semi-autobiographical avatar Alex Portnoy, neither the nice Jewish boy nor his more aggressively masculine counterparts (the churlish Jewboy, the "all-American" ice hockey player) prove to be acceptable identities to attain. The ceaseless floundering between the two fuels Portnoy's Complaint.”

by Producerreply 5811/21/2020

It is not a coincidence that both Phillip Portnoy and Elio Perlman are driven so neurotic by the Nice Jewish Boy dilemma that both end up sodomizing food.

by Producerreply 5911/21/2020

Imogene Coco

and

Martha Raye, involved in a love so forbidden, we dare not speak its name...

with Carol Burnett as the mother

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by Producerreply 6011/21/2020

Timothee was a fine Elio.

Aaron Taylor Johnson as Oliver though

by Producerreply 6111/21/2020

He seems so dumb, R61 - that would just be another casting based on very good looks only.

by Producerreply 6211/21/2020

R48 that can be the remake on Netflix 😆

by Producerreply 6311/21/2020

r61 He looks way too much like Chalamets more athletic older brother. It'd just add a different degree of weirdness to the relationship.

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by Producerreply 6411/21/2020

Armie was miscast leading to the pedo vibe. Most actors his age have more range and look younger. Any could have pulled it off.

by Producerreply 6511/22/2020

[quote] I loved the movie, but I can understand why some people felt uncomfortable. Oliver may have been 23-24 on the page, but Hammer definitely looked much older.

Armie was only about 23 when Luca got the hots for him (Social Network) and the project had a lot of delay.

by Producerreply 6611/22/2020

Christopher Plummer as Oliver

Noah Schnapp as Elio

by Producerreply 6711/22/2020

[quote] Oliver - Mike Henson

Yeah. Mike Henson really projected doctoral level intelligence.

by Producerreply 6811/22/2020

r67 Finally. Someone who understands my artistic vision.

by Producerreply 6911/22/2020

[quote]Richard Madden as Elio

Oliver is supposed to be 24. Richard Madden hasn't looked believably 24 since he was a teenager.

by Producerreply 7011/22/2020

R25 Here, this is the kid I’m talking about, Nolan Gould, who would have been turning 18 in 2016 so old enough to play Elio. He’s much more jacked now, but most likely would have been beefier than Timmy at that time. I don’t watch the show so I don’t know about his acting chops, but like I said I saw a movie preview where he’s the object of desire for a gay man so those roles don’t seem to frighten him.

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by Producerreply 7111/23/2020

Strange that anyone would suggest Ben Wishaw who was 40 last month? He's just about old enough to be Elio's Dad.

by Producerreply 7211/23/2020

[quote] Yeah. Mike Henson really projected doctoral level intelligence.

How about me then? I was the one who came up with the idea of the hidden camera bag!

by Producerreply 7311/23/2020

R73 Dear Mr. Davenport,

Thank you for guiding me to your impressive body of work. You remind of the one that I told Elio had gotten away.

Based on your portfolio you are invited to apply for the postdoctoral residency for Summer 2021 (pandemic conditions permitting). Hurry though; the deadline is Nov. 30.

Sincerely, S. Perlman, Ph.D.

by Producerreply 7411/23/2020
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