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Tasteful friends: 995 Fifth Ave., $36M, 15 rooms, 8360 sq.ft., views over the Met and across Central Park

A full-floor apartment fronting on Fifth Avenue and 81st Street in a Rosario Candela designed building of 1926. At 8360 square feet it has 15 rooms, 6/7 bedrooms, 7 full baths and 2 WCs, and it has had an active listing/selling history in the past 13 years.

Aside from location and views, the best feature is the enfilade of three public rooms fronting on Fifth, and the entrance gallery and adjoining main corridor which have nicer architecture than the rest of the apartment where the rooms seem too low in height and a little...ordinary. Though the rooms have wonderful large windows, every thing else seems a little underscaled. There are two underwhelming fireplaces—both in secondary rooms—and the stretch of three main rooms is short on architectural detail or a sense of progression. Despite a vastness of space, the circulation scheme is slightly odd, organized around a U-shaped corridor and its major spine, a long stretch that that runs parallel to 81st to serve a small hotel of en suite bedrooms and some tricky access to one of two bedrooms buried at the core of the apartment, and then terminates at the back with one of the nicer architectural gestures, a circular juncture at which the corridor becomes the private entrance to a large main bedroom suite.

It's not a bad plan, exactly, it's just not a great plan so much as it's disappointing considering all that is going for the property. It's not so much architecture as a collection of modular rooms.

The low ceilings and some of the improvements made in recent years and those carpets in too many rooms pull the space down. And there's a big fucking kitchen/family room for those who like that sort of thing (and a "washer & dryer in unit" stated in the listing though not shown clearly on the plan.)

Never mind the money, I would struggle to fill all those bedrooms. That they are all more or less the same size and communicate only to the corridor makes it a problem of disconnected en suite bedrooms. There are only so many offices and studies and libraries and sitting rooms before you start down the Candy Spelling path.

The views are superb, and the location, and the lightness from the large windows in four directions, it's just that I wish the architecture were up to the rest.

[Listing link at R1]

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by Anonymousreply 3411/22/2020

Listing details & floor plan porn

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by Anonymousreply 111/21/2020

Why did these NY luxury developments and clients want such low ceilings? If people were moving from townhouses and mansions they had high ceilings.

No other city I know has lux and bourgeois apartments from that era with these hideous low ceilings.

by Anonymousreply 211/21/2020

It will do for an oligarch daughter's crash pad, but with no terrace, no basement pool, and a whopping bad feng shui beam above the main bed, it's less than what others have come to expect due to the new options available in the last decade.

by Anonymousreply 311/21/2020

The building was designed as a hotel, which explains some of the seemingly odd layout choices; the multiple bedrooms with en suite baths; and the lack of a truly grand unifying scheme, which Candela usually provided.

It's also why the ceiling heights are lower - these were spaces for a short stay, rather than grandly-scaled permanent residences, and the more floors to the relative height of the building, the better.

The Stanhope (for such it was) was one of my favorite hotels in New York. The location opposite the Met provided the reason for most of its clientele to be visiting New York and I had many interesting conversations there. The Waikiki murals in the bar were a hoot.

It was the only hotel on Fifth Avenue north of the Pierre and Plaza, and the sole commercial establishment facing the park of any kind north of the Pierre.

by Anonymousreply 411/21/2020

The penthouse ($55 million) has been for sale for a while.

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by Anonymousreply 511/21/2020

Thank you for the background. It now makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 611/21/2020

You're welcome, R4 - if you have a chance to see the building next door to 993 Fifth Avenue (1935, by Emery Roth) you will see that the latter clearly has much higher ceilings relatively.

However, it is true that ceilings got lower in the 1930s, as the extremely high ceilings of the previous generation were increasingly thought difficult to light, heat and clean and were seen as unfunctional, oppressive and over-scaled. A more "domestic" appearance that was less ornate and took less help from servants was the fashion among even the very wealthy - flaunting your cash was seen as unwise.

I know, amazing, right?

by Anonymousreply 711/21/2020

Why would anyone want an apt looking over the Met? It's always got a ton of people in front of it

by Anonymousreply 811/21/2020

$36m. I wonder what the soundproofing is like? It’s a lot of cash to put up with noisy neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 911/21/2020

So this is a part of the Stanhope building? And the hotel is gone, and now what? I used to like that hotel.

by Anonymousreply 1011/21/2020

Thanks, R4/R7. I forgot that that was the Stanhope; somehow I always place it farther from the Met in my mind. That explains everything about the disappointing plan and detailing.

by Anonymousreply 1111/21/2020

The building was designed as a hotel, which explains some of the seemingly odd layout choices; the multiple bedrooms with en suite baths; and the lack of a truly grand unifying scheme, which Candela usually provided.

Yes, that background info was helpful, because the places definitely *looks* like a hotel

by Anonymousreply 1211/21/2020

Architect designed the flatiron in Brooklyn, which I always admired.

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by Anonymousreply 1311/21/2020

Let’s be brutally honest here-it’s ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 1411/21/2020

Yes it's in the sky but the impact in that cavern must be underground bunker, with windows.

by Anonymousreply 1511/21/2020

Seems to me there's better ways to spend $36 million than to buy a place with no outdoor access, overlooking a roof. Even a very grand roof.

by Anonymousreply 1611/21/2020

R5 The black flowers print is in both listings.

by Anonymousreply 1711/21/2020

R10, I loved the hotel - it was the perfect place to meet with friends before or after a visit to the Met.

I was shocked when it was turned into condos, but not surprised when the finished apartments were a hard sell, to a large extent because they don't have the engaging plans and high ceilings and ornate finishes associated with Fifth Avenue.

I've always though it an elegant and understated building nonetheless.

by Anonymousreply 1811/21/2020

The Met should have bought the building when it was for sale.

by Anonymousreply 1911/21/2020

Underwhelming - a one word summary. Sadly, the 7' ceilings are a dick wilter.

by Anonymousreply 2011/21/2020

Could the two smaller bedrooms on the west side be meant for domestic staff, leaving a large master suite and three smaller bedrooms for kids/guests? That wouldn't so excessive.

by Anonymousreply 2111/21/2020

It's a hike to the subway. Pass!

by Anonymousreply 2211/21/2020

According to the listing details, the MONTHLY maintenance fee is over $40,000. That's almost half a million each year on just the maintenance fee. I assume that includes this unit's share of the property taxes?

by Anonymousreply 2311/21/2020

Is a condop board as picky as a co-op board?

by Anonymousreply 2411/21/2020

WTF is with these tiny kitchens for 36 or 55 million! I have a bigger kitchen in my small Brooklyn studio apt. I would hate living in either place. I love to cook and the kitchen is the most important room to me.

by Anonymousreply 2511/21/2020

Too noisy. And bit expensive for the location, which may seem great but really is too too.

by Anonymousreply 2611/21/2020

Looking at the floorplan, do I understand this correctly--one of the service elevators opens into the sitting room of the primary bedroom? So the master of the domain can funnel up his two-bit WHORES without anyone being the wiser?

And I'm sorry, but I don't want to walk that far to the master bedroom--for those prices the master bedroom better come to ME.

by Anonymousreply 2711/21/2020

Way overpriced. You're paying for an address, not a home. Those Lantern House condos have much more to offer for a lot less money, and several have private terraces and beautiful views. Not to mention there's a hot guy by the pool...

by Anonymousreply 2811/21/2020

Turn it back into a hotel, an SRO in fact, and house the poor there.

by Anonymousreply 2911/22/2020

These photos are suspiciously pristine.

by Anonymousreply 3011/22/2020

The funniest thing about the link at r1 is that toward the bottom of the page, they tell you where the closest subway stations and bus stops are.

by Anonymousreply 3111/22/2020

Here's another link

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by Anonymousreply 3311/22/2020

I find the interior shots very disappointing. i expected vintage elegance with some mod cons where needed. Most of the rooms are far too modern and lacking taste .

by Anonymousreply 3411/22/2020
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