What do we think?
Lana Del Rey covers George Gershwin's 1935 aria "Summertime"
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Sunday at 3:53 PM|
I'll take cultural appropriation for $1000, ghost of Alex.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||Last Friday at 8:43 AM|
R1 Gershwin, who wrote the song, was Jewish—obviously he was inspired by black soul music when writing it. Not sure if it qualifies as "cultural appropriation" though, especially Del Rey's covering of it a century later.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||Last Friday at 8:49 AM|
What’s next, Swanee River?!?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||Last Friday at 8:55 AM|
Entirely a product of studio production
She’s gotten even more fat
Those poor black back up singers, who have 10 times the voice that this white cunt does
|by Anonymous||reply 4||Last Friday at 9:05 AM|
This made Leontyne Price puke. Barbara Hendricks puked, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||Last Friday at 9:18 AM|
Is Strange Fruit on the B side?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||Last Friday at 9:25 AM|
If Lana is going to get excoriated for cultural appropriation over stuff like this, then people like Jack White should also be getting raked over the coals. He built his career covering old blues songs written by southern black men, and that influence is all over his music—you can especially hear it in The White Stripes's earlier releases. And yet, I've never heard a single person point this out or scream "cultural appropriation!"
The problem with making cultural appropriation claims is that it's not always cut-and-dry where admiration/homage ends and "appropriation" begins. I genuinely believe people like Jack White (and even Lana, to a lesser extent) are true admirers of the music. I suppose Lana having three black backup singers could read as tone-deaf in the current climate, although she'd get the same flak (possibly more) if she'd had three white singers performing with her. It's a losing game either way.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Friday at 9:31 AM|
what the fuck is this shit?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Friday at 9:48 AM|
I don't know her music. I know she dated a Republican cop and got shit for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Friday at 9:52 AM|
Before reading R1 post, I had the absolute same reaction - cultural appropriation, and yes, those poor back up singer as mentioned by R4.
So if you don't think this is cultural appropriation, then you're probably okay with this song being played at Trump's next birthday...
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Friday at 10:02 AM|
Can someone please clarify what precisely makes this "cultural appropriation"? Is it the mere fact that the backup singers are black? This song was written by a white man.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||Last Friday at 10:53 AM|
All songs by sung by white singers are cultural appropriation of other races r11
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Friday at 11:11 AM|
Ray Charles and the Young Caucasians!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Friday at 11:30 AM|
Fantasia's rendition of "Summertime" was what won her the "Idol" crown.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Friday at 11:31 AM|
[quote]Fantasia's rendition of "Summertime" was what won her the "Idol" crown.
Fantasia couldn't spell "rendition."
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Friday at 11:34 AM|
Lana is a well-known racist and now she covers a song written about slavery???
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Friday at 11:37 AM|
R16 how is she a "well-known racist"? Lol
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Friday at 12:43 PM|
Where is the cultural appropriation? Please explain.
As far as her interpretation of the song goes, all I can say is "Bless her heart".
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Friday at 12:49 PM|
In the final analysis, Little Miss Grant is what America deserves right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Friday at 1:16 PM|
In this song, Doris Day demonstrates the opposite of cultural appropriation.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Friday at 1:31 PM|
In this song, Eminem demonstrates cultural appropriation.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Friday at 1:35 PM|
R20 Uh...could you explain further?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Friday at 1:37 PM|
That was trash. I feel bad for the back up singers too. Using black skin to seem...more authentic?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Saturday at 2:21 AM|
EVERYONE HATES LANA.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Saturday at 2:50 AM|
I actually like it.....it works with her xanax voice
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Saturday at 2:54 AM|
It had some moments where it was fine. There’s too much nasal tone, or whatever the technical term for that mosquito-droning is.
The video... the less said, the better.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Saturday at 3:26 AM|
Whats with the covid disclaimer? Also she is a fat pony now. I agree, those poor paid friends and trade musicians. Lana can manage some interesting tricks on record, but its mostly 1-trick pony tricks.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Saturday at 3:38 AM|
I believe in cultural celebration not cultural appropriation. People who busy themselves with accusations of the latter are miserable twats who need to get laid.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Saturday at 3:55 AM|
R28, "appropriation" does exist. You want the perfect example? Middle Eastern food that's been around for generations trying to be claimed by Israelis.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Saturday at 4:54 AM|
God, I hate this so much. I *adore* this song. Lana's version lacks the soul, pain and raw emotion of its predecessors. Ella is rolling in her grave.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Saturday at 8:29 AM|
[quote] If Lana is going to get excoriated for cultural appropriation over stuff like this, then people like Jack White should also be getting raked over the coals. He built his career covering old blues songs written by southern black men, and that influence is all over his music—you can especially hear it in The White Stripes's earlier releases. And yet, I've never heard a single person point this out or scream "cultural appropriation!"
Maybe that explains why I never liked The White Stripes. Their music had a feeling of "been there, done that". I never got the hype about them. I like Lana more than I like The White Stripes.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Saturday at 8:30 AM|
R29 You know that many Israli’s are Mizarhi, Arab Jews, right? That food is as much theirs as it is any Muslim Arab.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Saturday at 8:38 AM|
At her soul, she seems like a "Karen" trying to suppress it.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Saturday at 8:54 AM|
Oh girl, no. Shouldn't her voice, at the very least, have gotten a little deeper and richer with all that weight gain? I agree that Lana's thin wailing is an abomination with respect to this song.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Saturday at 8:59 AM|
She's so annoying and so mildly talented
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Saturday at 9:16 AM|
awful, really awful
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Saturday at 9:20 AM|
R32? You know that I know that which is why I didn't say "Jewish." I said "Israeli." In fact one of my best friend is an Iraqi Jew. I said "ISRAELI." Don't think I didn't know exactly what I was saying. It's Israelis -including Ashkenazi Jews- who are trying to claim it as "Israeli" which is bullshit. It is preposterous how even the food gets the revisionist treatment from them and their even stupider defenders.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Saturday at 9:23 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Saturday at 9:24 AM|
A bit of a tangent, but did she always look like Ivanka Trump?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Saturday at 10:21 AM|
No, they looked different pre surgery. Facial reconstructions create a sameness.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Saturday at 11:25 AM|
The “cultural appropriation” accusation is ridiculous. It’s a lovely rendition. DL would hate this song being sung by anyone under 75.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Saturday at 11:54 AM|
The short-haired guitarist in the video, Blake Lee, has been with her since she started out. He's a great player, and he's cute as hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Saturday at 12:03 PM|
Stuff your cultural appropriation, R1.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Saturday at 12:05 PM|
What is this "cultural appropriation" crap?
She's singing a song, and she does it quite well.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Saturday at 12:23 PM|
I'm pretty sure the girl "playing" the washboard in the video is Lana's hipster photographer sister, Caroline—she does most of Lana's photographs and album art.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Saturday at 12:26 PM|
It's terrible. She's terrible. But anyone who thinks this is cultural appropriation is nuts or joking, unless they're saying Gershwin did the appropriating, not Lana Del Rey. And it's not about slavery.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Saturday at 12:33 PM|
How can it be cultural appropriation when the song was written by a white man?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Sunday at 11:23 AM|
r47 TWO (possibly three) white men. It has lyrics, you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Sunday at 3:45 PM|
R37 fuck off you deranged anti semite.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Sunday at 3:53 PM|