Meryl Streep in Steven Soderbergh’s Let Them All Talk with Dianne Weist and Candace Bergen

This, Behind the Candelabra and Magic Mike can be considered Soderbergh’s “Eldergay Trilogy.”

This looks like a lot of fun.

Man, has Candace ever porked out!

I thought it was Gena Rowlands at first

Those heavy framed black glasses that have become fashionable regularly look terrible. Case in point.

Ehhhhhhh boring.

Candice Bergen spells her first name with an i.

Think icy blonde when you think of Candice.

Also, it’s “Wiest”.

I’d watch it.

Both ladies are pokers. Makes Meryl look petite

Porkers!

It looked boring. Like those nonsense movies in the 70s.

Very hard to get a sense of what this film is about. Or if it's a comedy. Sort of like a remake of the old Bette Davis/Miriam Hopkins classic Old Acquaintance except Candice already did that one. But I'll watch it for sure.

I can remember a time in the 1980s when Meryl, Dianne and Kate Nelligan were all hot clients of super agent Sam Cohn but furious that he doted on Meryl. And she didn't even have to fuck him.

Sam Cohn didn't even get Meryl the best roles

It sounds like Fanny Ardant's movie ROMAN DE GARE or something.

Meryl's doing her "grande dame" schtick for the umpteenth time, complete with upper crust accent. The constant emoting for the camera is tiresome.

Candace and Dianne should be used more often.

Should I don my "Going Out Caftan" to attend the premiere?

There won't be a premiere R15 it's a streaming movie.

You have to hand it to Meryl. She's the only actress of a certain age that doesn't have to do TV in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. She can also demand a salary that is commensurate with her male counterpart(s).

Even better R16, we can put on our "At Home Caftans"!

Anything with Meryl Streep. Is a big no for me. Sick of her.

[quote] She's the only actress of a certain age that doesn't have to do TV in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.

I love Meryl, but...

R19: I totally agree. Between her and nepotism Lucas Hedges, this is a big no for me.

One thing I wish Meryl would do is advocate for her peers to get work. I will always be happy seeing Wiest and Bergen in anything, but she should try doing something with Lange, Weaver, Sarandon, or Mirren.

My most anticipated project-that-will-probably-never-happen is a lesbian drama with her and Lange. I think I would actually cry if it were announced.

She did advocate for others, like pulling strings for Viola and Liz Shue

And at her age, Meryl actually has more female co-stars than male these days.

FUCK I’m tired of Meryl Streep! Enough already! The woman would say “yes” and a high school table read of Hair if they’d gush over her and give her an award. Talk about thirsty. And I’ve never understood all the accolades. She’s as talented as Rich Little, the famous old voice impressionist. That’s all she does, act campy, emote and do accents. HOW is this “great acting”?!? Everything she does is high camp and chewing the scenery. I don’t get it.

Fuck off R15 Meryl is Queen Bee

She just likes living in your head, rent-free, r25.

R17 didn't she do a cable show on HBO where she wasn't even the lead?

R28 I am the original sweetheart

R29 just you try and convince Julia Roberts there was ever a movie star before her.

I never would have thought that Candice Bergen would let herself get fat. How'd she do it? Booze, or just over-eating?

You should lay off those candy bars, Candy.

Supposedly (and surprisingly) Candice Bergen gives the best performance in the film.

[quote] Supposedly (and surprisingly) Candice Bergen gives the best performance in the film.

Not a surprise. She is a comedic dynamo -- "Murphy Brown"?

oh ok r34

I didn't realize this was a comedy. (didn't watch the clip.)

Thought it was another serious Meryl film.

Bergen is quite funny as you say.

r31 She had a stroke and lots of health issues.

Candice Bergen back in the day. She was considered a great beauty. She is now 74.

Candice then and now.

The 'now' looks like Roseanne.

Beam me up, Scotty.

Will she be doing brown face in this Soderbergh effort as well?

R36, I didn't know about the stroke. But that doesn't make one fat -- what were the other health issues?

I hope it’s good. There is do little to look forward to now. This and The Prom. The Undoing has been a major disappointment. Hillbilly Elegy sounds even worse.

r41 I think just mobility and memory issues related to the stroke

Sam Cohn steered Streep to two Oscars and legend status. Kevin Huvane has also done a great job for her.

Advance word is that this and The Prom are both shit. But that is pretty much Hollywood these days.

Advance word from who?

test audiences, critics and journalists who've seen them already but aren't allowed to publicly review them yet but leak stuff to friends and social media, people who work for the studios etc.

Sounds vague

The trailer makes it look like a Woody Allen movie.

Soderberg is so full of shit. Erin Brockovich is the only great movie he has ever made. He really has a problem with pacing his films. His editing is like he’s going for Scorsese but he took a bottle of Valium. This is an Art Nouveau Geriatric Hipster version of The First Wives Club with no ex-husbands, camp or humor. Just that dry delivery of allegedly “witty” lines that land like jokes with no punchlines. Old bags self-deprecating about being old bags, but getting one last whimsical shot at life. Groundbreaking.

I’ll watch for Wiest, I love her.

R49 Woody’s cinematography doesn’t have the look of a methhead’s trailer in rural Oklahoma that has one 40 watt soft white bulb lamp with a dingy nicotine-stained shade burning in the corner.

Wiest is a cunt.

I’ve sailed on the QM2 four times and it’s great to see her again in this age of isolation and caution. I’ll watch for that chiefly, but I’m a fan of movies that can round up 100+ years of experience from its lead cast.

Meryl is supposed to be terrific in this and The Prom.

Clayton Davis of Variety likes M’s chances for a nomination...for The Prom.

[quote]One thing I wish Meryl would do is advocate for her peers to get work. I will always be happy seeing Wiest and Bergen in anything, but she should try doing something with Lange, Weaver, Sarandon, or Mirren.'

FUCK Susan Sarandon.

Entertainment Weekly’s latest issue has included LTAT on “The Must List”, calling it “part absurdist character study, part shaggy-dog caper on the high seas, and thoroughly delightful” with a “deliciously salty script”.

I doubt it will garner any Oscar attention but good reviews may increase M’s chance to get a nod for her other film, The Prom.

Actresses and models often engage in disordered eating. It should never surprise when they put on weight in middle and/or old age.

Dianne Weist is twice the actress that TIRED Meryl is . Always has been. Kid yourselves if you think Meryl didnt give out lots of sex in her day.

Another hit for Magic Meryl. The jealousy burns 🥵

R59 Not everyone got a film career using the casting couch.

M. may be an enabler (I didn't know anything - I find that highly doubtful but that again what the fuck could she do based on rumours anyway) but it does mean she went to that route herself.

Streep did not need the casting couch. Even while at Yale she stared drawing attention and was signed after graduation to ICM. Within a few years she was an Oscar winner. Her story is unique. I can’t imagine that happening now. It’s great she is still evolving.

Ben Whishaw played Hamlet at the National straight out of drama school. He got his first movie lead pretty damn quickly too.

Maybe somebody should start a thread 'Which actors didn't have to use the casting couch?'

It would probably be longer than most people expect.

Someone did, last month.

Everyone including Siggy Weaver was jealous of Meryl at Drama school because she, without trying, was always first choice for everything. One Yale Professor told his students that her "Miss Julie" was even better than her "Sophie".

Susan has never forgiven me, either! I still have scars from the daggers she’s shooting at me here, lol.

I hope Meryl finally gives us some decent nudity!

[quote]Streep did not need the casting couch.

Even casting couches have standards.

Netflix confirm they will be campaigning Meryl as Lead for "The Prom".

Mary was always such a bitch.

Candi Bergen looks like she's been eating a LOT of candy.

What's interesting is that Streep, Close, Weaver that whole generation didn't start their film careers until their late 20s or older.

Nowadays you are a has been at 30 if you are a woman.

Tell that to Melissa McCarthy.

Wasn’t Glenn in her late fifties when she played Garp’s mom?

She was 35 r75.

She'd be 90 now if she were in her late 50s then.

r74 there are exceptions but not many

and McCarthy doesn't play romantic interests

My friend worked solidly from 22 to 32 now she struggles with maybe one job per year.

Did your friend do frat comedies?

Nope. An HBO series and a Netflix series.

and multiple movies on every hiatus...then it just slowed down.

Does she think it might be a Harvey Weinstein/Ashley Judd situation?

No. She thinks it just gets harder after 35. You are too young for mother roles and too old for the girlfriend to action stars type parts.

I'm a little skeptical that she wouldn't be seen for mother parts. It's more believable that she wouldn't want to play mother parts.

I don't know the specifics of it all. All I know is she worked very steadily almost to the point of being overwhelmed by the amount of it and now at 35 she has started to struggle. She has a top agent and great resume.

Other actresses are like that. AnnE's career has slowed. Even J-Law's.

Talent managers now want children that they can groom until they are 30 and then it’s in to the next. I have also noticed that best actress winners now don’t get much out of it., apart from endorsement deals.

Yes r85. My friend's first agent that she got at 22 (though she could still play teens) told her they 'd get her started but then she'd have to move on to someone else..

R73 So true.

On a side note, did some number crunching and the average age for Best Actress Oscar winners is 36-37; the median is 33 and the mode 29.

R87 Tell me about it.

Glenn was in her mid-fifties when she did Fatal Attraction.

Glenn had very perky bosoms in Dangerous Liaisons

Glenn was 40 for Fatal Attraction

She had big boobs in Dangerous Liaisons because she was breastfeeding her daughter and John Malkovich

I am not surprised Streep will go for lead. That group right now is so dreary.

Looks like Viola, Sophia Loren, Vanessa Kirby (Volpi Cup winner), Meryl, Frances McDormand and possible Michelle Pheiffer will be the front runners for Best Actress.

It will be kinda gratifying that obsequious, disingenuous sudden-Metoo expert, potty-mouthed Kate Winslet will be blocked out despite her best attempts to curry favour.

[QUOTE] It will be kinda gratifying that obsequious, disingenuous sudden-Metoo expert, potty-mouthed Kate Winslet will be blocked out despite her best attempts to curry favour.

But I’m playin’ a dyke!

Why do we think Winslet will be blocked? Just because of Woody Allen?

She is getting great reviews and I think has a much better shot than Pfeiffer.

Lol, R94

What are some good websites this year for Oscar nomination predictions?

I forgot about her nomination for Steve Jobs, R96.

R94 no one is really talking about the movie. It has 68% on RT.

Winslet really turned the Academy off with her awful 2009 campaign. She's one of those that they pretty much wipe their hands off once they reward her.

And it has nothing to do with Woody. In 2017, at the height of the Metoo movement, Winslet was singing his praises in those Oscar roundtable events. Now that he's being shunned and their movie flopped she jumps on the bandwagon saying how much she regrets working with him (and Polanski, whom she travelled to France to work with on Carnage in 2011). Her righteous indignation and shock seem very phony for someone who's intelligent enough to know their pasts and what they've been accused of well before accepting to work with them.

Hence why it would be amusing that her obvious attempts at being politically correct and scorning them to get back in people's good graces backfires on her. I don't believe she gives a shit, she just wants another Oscar.

Thanks r98. I agree she really does come across like a flake. I think she’s still highly regarded by her peers for her acting alone but the RT score doesn’t bode well.

On the other hand it seems like the Academy has forgotten that Pfeiffer even exists. I’m not predicting her for a nod this year.

R99 don't count Michelle or Sophia out. If they have great performances with critics on their side, the Academy loves sentimentality.

Frances’s character seems very topical.

All that is true about Kate but she’s still an exquisite actress. I think she might be crazy.

R102 she sells herself as the relatable gal next door and she seldom made a wrong step in her career up until this last decade but I really dislike how she threw Woody and Polanski under the bus this year when, at the time she was more than happy to work with them

Kate Winslet has always come across as batshit crazy to me.

Nah. She's an operator.

Sophia already has that Oscar. She has no competition. Plus if we get to see her win she will brighten lives the world over.

What is this Pfeiffer? The vaccine for this killer flu? What will I be competing with it?

Sophia!!!

Sophia's beauty secret...

Sophia likely won't win but I hope they nominate her.

How good was she in the movie she won for in 1961, those who have seen it? Was it called "Two Women"..

Winslet doesn't come across as crazy or weird at all. Just contrived and calculating, saying whatever she thinks will win her favor.

R110, Loren is very good in The Life Ahead and would easily be deserving of a nomination this year. I’ll have to see the other contenders for the year to say whether a win is possible.

The film also has a Holocaust angle which (to use the currently-discussed Winslet) can never be under-estimated as an Oscar factor.

[quote]The film also has a Holocaust angle which (to use the currently-discussed Winslet) can never be under-estimated as an Oscar factor.

Yes, some of us figured that out in 1983.

Did Kate get her ugly tits out again for this Lesbian drama?

Just watched the Ammonite trailer. Oh GOD, am I actually goin to have to watch that?

Kate will not be nominated. It was a poorly reviewed film. I am really dubious Pfeiffer can get in.

These Oscar sluts think Kate is too subtle and Michelle is entirely out.

R116

r17

Big Little Lies

Winslet likes to revise history.. After his disgrace Saint Kate decried his campaigning, saying she hates how her aggressively championed her and how she wanted no part of it.

Sorry I meant she decried Harvey Weinstein

I thought they no longer called it THE prom, just prom.

I read an article a month or two ago with Kate quoted as saying “I don’t campaign.’ Lol.

Sophia Loren sucks big time in The Life Ahead and I didn't even compare her acting to that masterclass of Simone Signoret!!!

Such cuties at R116. What are their names?

No gays in this film?

Corden's character is gay?

I think M and Candace Bergen end up scissoring.

It was shot in 13 days

This will be another Soderbergh piece of shit. Aside from his Liberace film he hasn't made very many decent films this century post Erin Brockvich/Traffic. 2000 was a career high that won't be repeated.

Are any of the Boys in the Band gays in the conversation for Oscar nominations this year?

sounds fun

love wiest

R129 I haven't really liked anything he's done since Traffic except the first Ocean's. The choices after have seemed pretty unspectacular and uninspired. I didn't really like Contaigon although today it seems terrifying today but it was the only one close to the kind of movies he previously used to make. I didn't even like the Beyond the Candeleria or whatever the fuck it was called. It was strictly TV quality only, although I have to say I appreciated a well placed nod to DL Legend Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte. "I look like my father! I look like my father in Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte!"

Looks like it might actually be good.

Rejoice, elder gays! Reviews are good!

M will get double Globe nominations

I've always thought Candice is a bad actress. I don't like her in anything.

I am happy for Meryl. Two good movies in one month and she is still an iconic superstar. I am of course available if there are any secondary or backup needs.

I tempered my enthusiasm until now. So happy this is getting great reviews, that it stars three women over 70, and that it seems to be a sharp, witty, poignant, and character-driven.

Streep seems to be at her understated best (my favorite kind of Meryl) and although I’m hurting behind the fact that Lange didn’t play Bergen’s role, I’m quite excited for Candice. Oscar nod?

Can’t wait!

Why didn't Lange get an offer? It would be great to see them working together.

Because Lange has no comic timing.

R141 Who knows. She’s off in some cabin in the woods or halfway around the country photographing for her fifth book of photography.

I still haven’t forgiven her for dropping out of “Once Upon a Time...In Hollywood”.

And there goes the obsessed Lange detractor over at R142. :shiver:

Lange has wonderful comic timing (see Tootsie, Crimes of the Heart, Men Don’t Leave, and Wild Oats).

Candace is a former nominee so it’s possible.

She was HILARIOUS in Starting Over. I would have given it to her that year over Meryl.

R141 Now that I think of it, it could’ve been Streep, Lange, AND Close.

Imagine?

Bergen look so sexy with her new curvier look!! So glad she decided to go in this direction! Love her hour-glass frame. She'll definitely beat the other two chicas on the red carpet.

Is Candace doing a nude scene in this movie?

[quote]”Let Them All Talk” is an exhilarating comedy of regret. The film was shot over two weeks on the real Queen Mary 2 and improvised under Soderbergh and screenwriter Deborah Eisenberg’s supervision, and the actors’ sense of control is especially phenomenal given these circumstances. The dialogue isn’t shaggy in the tradition of most improvisatory comedies, but precise and finely honed in order to draw blood, accentuated by richly comic and melancholic body language. At the head of a superb cast, Streep allows one to see that Alice’s pretension is inseparable from her loneliness, serving as an expression of her insecurity, creativity, and desire for connection. These longings are made manifestly clear in one of the film’s most moving scenes, in which Alice gives a lecture on the ship, paying a tribute to an obscure author that announces her desire to be understood. Streep is too electrically brittle, too alive with inner furies, to resort to platitude, rendering her character recognizably maddening and lost in this sequence and many others.

-Slant

[quote] It's perhaps more satisfying on a scene-by-scene basis than it is as a conventional narrative, dropping references to a comedy of errors while remaining more subtly ambiguous about its form. Although it won't be for everyone, the low-budget film is nonetheless a spry and playful ensemble piece. It's full of wry observations about the confusion of relationships — female friendships in particular — along with droll insights about a writer's inspiration and whether drawing from real life constitutes a license or a betrayal. [A] succulent role for Meryl Streep. Her interplay with Candice Bergen and Dianne Wiest as the college friends she hasn't seen in 35 years is enlivened by extensive improvisation, which gives this HBO Max original the enthralling spontaneity of vintage Robert Altman. In addition to wonderful performances from an ace cast, especially Bergen in divinely flinty form, the production is a technical jewel.

R145 They really should have gone Full A list and leave has-beens like Bergen (annoying) and Wiest (wonderful, but she isn't Lange) behind. Imagine Close, Lange and Streep together? Gay heaven.

You've got to feel bad for Glenn. Here Meryl is barely breaking a sweat and she gets great reviews and likely a few awards too.

Meanwhile poor Glenn works her socks off trying to get the Oscar, playing a junkie's mum in 2 movies this year and they both stink worse than a hillbilly's arse after a Tex-Mex all-you-can-eat banquet buffet!

R150 I truly love Wiest and Bergen, though, but M, J, and G together would have been an EVENT.

Eat shit, R150.

Maybe Bergen was able to channel any residual anger at losing to Streep at the 1980 Oscars into this performance? Cool.

(And I liked Candace in Starting Over but M in KvK deserved it.)

Add Weaver to the mix and it really would have been heaven. And you know Sigourney could throw some shade at Streep.

They could have cast Saggy Susan as a steward on the ship

R156 You bitches are terrible 😂

Due to her mood swings and drinking. I don’t think Jessica is cast often unless it’s a Ryan Murphy supporting part as the blowsy bag.. For this project, they needed dependable people.

Streep would have to wear platform shoes to act with Weaver. There's no way Meryl would allow Sigourney to tower over her.

With that signature, I can call you fivehead retard and point out the irony with confidence.

^ For R158 of course.

What the hell does Jessica have to do with new movies? Oh my sides.

Golden Girls

Excuse me as I go empty the bucket under my vagina.

R11 The only actress I detest more than Debra Winger, is Kate Nelligan. She didn't deserve the fucking roles she got, and that unwarranted Oscar nomination blows my mind.

Steven Soderbergh hasn't been interesting since King Of The Hill.

You gurls are very amusing. Get out much?

It's out today! Who is watching?

R168 Aaaaahhhhh!!!!! You just reminded me!

I am so getting cozy for this. Have some studying to do and then I’m all Meryl’s.

Fuck it. I have hours to study. Watching now!

I literally just signed up for a trial just for her.

The things I do...

What's it like? Can we see it anywhere besides Amazon?

It's 92% fresh, go M!

I just watched it. I think Candace Bergen is fantastic in Let Them All Talk. Her character, Roberta (who is the inspiration for the main character - named “Rowina” - in Meryl Streep’s character’s most popular, Pulitzer Prize-winning novel) is kind of like if you took the Sandy Dennis role from Another Woman and extended it beyond a cameo. She has some of the best moments in the film, and some of them are just the character having these deadly (literal) face-offs with Meryl.

Bergen would be totally deserving of a nomination for this.

M is not a very likable character. I’ll just leave it at that.

Does he kill her by pushing her overboard?

R172 It’s only showing on HBO Max. If you have Amazon Prime, you can sign up for a trial for HBO and then sign in to HBO Max via Prime Channels. You can only watch it on HBO Max, not on HBO via Prime, though.

I am LOVING it.

omg... Was that an innuendo re: the waiter...?

They look at each other at the pool.... Later, he’s exiting her room.

Ha! They’re addressing it now.

Meryl is much prettier than her 2 friends.

The movie is infuriating!!! The old ladies talk for 2 syllables and have to pause for 2 seconds most of the times. Now I understand why they don't age-appropriate actors in the role of 70-80-year-old person. The movie could have been 30 minutes shorter if younger actresses were in these roles.

Though it may strike some as claustrophobic and compartmentalized, “Let Them All Talk” speaks to and is somewhat representative of the current era we are living in, which finds us sandwiched between a global pandemic and political mayhem, and has left most of us feeling suffocated and closed off from the world, each other, and even ourselves. Along with Spike Lee’s severely underrated “Da 5 Bloods,” this is one of the best films of the year, and one of the best films Meryl Streep has been a part of in over a decade, maybe more.

Streep’s performance as Alice Hughes, an affected and effected celebrated author at the cusp of true physical and metaphysical transcendence, is sublimely subtle, reflective, and moving, though never pandering, Alice is the kind of woman who would, as she herself admits to her nephew toward the end of the film, spend her time “polishing the vase when the house is falling down.” This is a quietly heartbreaking turn by Streep and already ranks as a favorite of mine.

Dianne Wiest and Candace Bergen are equally brilliant as her estranged friends, the former comforting and contemplative, the latter spiteful and vengeful. Bergen illuminates the pain, regret, and flaws of her character, Roberta, with dark wit and sensitivity, reminding us, especially during a scene in which her character desperately attempts to capitalize on a stolen journal, of the fine line between victim and assailant; humanist and capitalist. She is superb.

Wiest’s Susan is an empathic and generous friend with a withheld truth and opinion of her own, and the actress conveys acres of wisdom with just a glance. During a pivotal moment in the film, she stops the increasingly tense dinner proceedings to point out how far removed and detached from reality we have become: “Do you even know what happened yesterday, when we were out of communication with the world?” she asks. “Elon Musk sent many, many telecom satellites into the sky that look exactly like stars… So now, when humans gaze at the sky, they won’t know if they’re gazing at a star or at a machine, and we, at this table - at this very little table - we are among the last, the very last ever to have seen the actual real, the honest, truthful night sky from the ocean. We saw stars; just stars.” It is a moment that thrusts you into a contemplative state that lingers.

The rest of the cast is excellent, too, as are the production values, and Steven Soderbergh directs this with confidence, subtlety, and grace.

In the end, “Let Them All Talk” is really a sensitive rumination on emergence: the emergence of truth, of the spite and vengeance, of the humanist and capitalist, of the pain and regret, and ultimately, of the life and love in us all.

“It’s impossible for me not to think, ‘What a miracle it is that this universe emerged. What a miracle it is that consciousness emerged,’” declares Streep’s Alice halfway through, and in a perfectly placed flashback, at the end of the film. To paraphrase her character, what a miracle it is that this film, with its totally improvised dialogue and cast of brilliantly sensitive actors baring the truths and experiences of their characters so purely, could reach across time and space and my television screen, and reach into my heart and consciousness. That is a miracle; one that I blissfully welcome during these oppressive and unpredictable times.

Lange's Bitch what is your top 5 Streep and Lange performances? R181

R182 God, that’s tough. My favorite Lange performance is in “Blue Sky” and my favorite Streep performance is in “The Bridges of Madison County.” The rest constantly change depending on my mood.

I will say, I absolutely LOVE this performance by Streep. I am beside myself. It’s my favorite thing she’s done in YEARS. Ugh, she and the film are soooo good.

Meryl really should be nominated for this. And I think Candace Bergen should place as well. She’s very good and practically steals the movie.

Dianne Weist has a tricky character and she really delivers too.

R185 I agree.

Guys please tell us R182 R183 R184 R185 R186 what's so good? What's Streep like? Is there a twist ending?

There is a spoiler. But I’m cautious to say it.

Streep is fantastic. An excellent performance of an unlikable, kind of self-obsessed, hard character.

R187 or R188 No goddamn spoilers!

But I know you bitches...

One of my favorite lines:

Alice:

[quote]I think attraction is the animating force of the universe...like gravity or the pull of the poles or what pulls the monarch butterfly to fly across the world... If you feel attracted to someone from your heart, and you look at them and you feel you can see their soul, that’s... There is no bad version of that. To be a part of that, we should...oh God, we should treasure it. We’re lucky to have that feeling. It’s the greatest - it’s the *fullest* expression of what it is to be alive.

Fuck. I can’t believe this movie was entirely improvised.

I can access HBO Max via my HBO subscription in Amazon Prime but this movie doesn’t appear on the Max list or in a search. WTF?

R193 Yeah, it won’t. You have to download or access HBO Max independently, then sign on through there by selecting “Prime Channels.” It’ll prompt you to create an account with them using your email and your password for Prime and then will link you directly to HBO Max.

FYI, it’s still free if you’ve joined HBO via a free trial on Prime.

Thanks R194 that worked.

Please let me see it!

R192 reading between the lines, was Streep in love with Bergen?

Please tell me the twists but put

Spoiler Spoiler before xx

I think Vanity Fair’s Richard Lawson eloquently captures in his review what I love about this film:

[quote][The] pleasure of Let Them All Talk is in how it expands on the premise of an older lady hang movie, burrowing into darker corners and pausing to consider the ambient hum of life tumbling along. It’s a fun movie. It may also be profound.

[quote]The actors thrill to the challenge of half making things up as they go along. Let Them All Talk is a sturdy showcase for their intelligence, every cast member nimbly, extemporaneously guiding each scene to its intended end. Almost like a Chekhov play, the dialogue is silly and dreamy, pointed and sweet. Similar to much of the Russian master’s oeuvre, this film listens to the creak of time, all the old things wearing down just as new urges and wishes sprout into being.

[quote] This is not the kind of movie—if it even is any kind of movie—I expected to be moved by. And yet, there is its bleary poignance, closing out the film with a watery smile. One could wax maudlin and say that Let Them All Talk’s boat trip is really a metaphor for another great crossing, from one place to the next. I think the film can support that kind of grandiosity, but it doesn’t require it.

Also:

[quote] Let Them All Talk is plenty effective taken on its literal terms—as a movie about friendship’s long and tattered tail, about writerly haughtiness and self-doubt (captured so perfectly by Eisenberg and Streep), about money and fame, both the having and the lack of it. There’s a lot contained in this week-long trek across the sea, an experiment in form and creative conditions that proves a noble, invigorating mission for all involved. It makes me want to go on a cruise. Though, as Let Them All Talk might suggest, we all may already be on one.

R197 Just stream it! You won’t regret it. I don’t want to ruin it for you. Sign up for free trial membership of Amazon Prime or I think can just do the same with HBO Max. If you do it with or already have Prime, follow the instructions at R194.

Please R200 you won't ruin it for me. I want to know the truth. Please, if you've ever cared anything for me you'll tell me.

(paraphrasing from a Streepie Weepie..)

Meryl might win again!

R201 You are too cute!

R203 I'm stamping my foot in protest! Is Alice a lesbian?

R204 Watch it for me.

Watch it for Meryl. Pretty pleeeaaassse!

R205 gimme a link babe. Or tell me how to see it x

R206 Sign up for a free trial for either Amazon Prime, through which you will be able to access HBO Max on their, i.e., HBO Max’s app or website, or sign up for a free trial with HBO Max.

If you do Amazon, follow the instructions at R194.

Amazon:

Just found out HBO Max only offers a free trial through Prime, so that’s your best bet.

Thanks so much!

I enjoyed it but I wished I liked it better... it remind me of a Woody Allen movie he might have made in the late eighties-early 90s but it just doesn’t have the clip that it should have... it laaaaaags towards the end when it should tighten.

R210 No. It is perfect in its lazy and luminous drift and, watching it now a second time, the dirge made me tear.

I want a Criterion Edition yesterday.

Just finished watching it and was very underwhelmed. It's not completely improvised - there was a script that was used as a jumping off point.

Unfortunately, with partly improvised dialogue you get a lot of pauses and "and uhs" which drag scenes on longer than they need to be. Lucas Hedges was particularly annoying in that regard; this is the first time I really found him tiresome to watch.

There are a few good scenes, particularly the one late in the film between Streep and Bergen. But I really didn't find it all that compelling as a whole.

[quote] It's not completely improvised - there was a script that was used as a jumping off point.

It was a treatment, not a script, that they used - there is a difference - and yes, it was completely improvised.

Also, I get how some may feel that it drags and that “not enough was going on,” but in that regard it reminds of a film from the 70s or early 80s. It’s a meditation, or rumination, more than anything else.

I just finished watching it again and caught more upon my second viewing. I even teared up this time.

I’m going to watch a third time later tonight. I can’t say I have felt this way about any of Meryl’s films in the last decade and a half.

😴😴😴😴😴

Is Meryl doing black face again in it?

Candy Bergen walks away with this film. Steals it right under Steep’s nose. Dianne Wiest, stellar as ever.

So Lucas Hedges is the nephew who never showers or washes his hair? Okay.

This needed a better actor than Lucas Hedges.

Lucas Hedges played the “Woodly Allen surrogate “ character (I know it’s not a Woody Allen movie) and his role is not to outshine the older actors.

The word that comes to mind with this film is: inert.

Or R219, the could’ve been Steve Gutenberg in Cocoon.

Lucas Hedges is the best thing in the movie. The old broads, on the other hand, sound like they are about to croak and gasping for air every few seconds.

R213, you’ve watched this three times? Hmm.

R222 Felt like I was watching him thinking about what he was going to say next, but not in a thoughtful way that was true to his character. It was a really self-conscious performance.

R223 Twice. Going in for a third viewing in a few.

Sorry you bitches have the equivalent of a frozen pea for hearts.

Lange's Bitch must be the Streep Troll in disguise. I can't imagine Lange herself would wax so enthusiastic about this misfire.

R226 It’s a beautiful film and rumination.

What's the twist of the movie?

Meryl dies, I guess. It's not at all moving.

Who dies?

[quote]The old ladies talk for 2 syllables and have to pause for 2 seconds most of the times

I read the thread before watching and it didn't take long to understand what this meant. The staccato delivery was aggravating. I wasn't sure if it was an actor choice or just them struggling with improvising lines.

[quote]Candy Bergen walks away with this film. Steals it right under Steep’s nose. Dianne

She was a delight.

[quote]and yes, it was completely improvised.

Which, at times, led to genuine unguarded reactions like Hedges' reaction to Gemma Chan's character where she was talking about her history. It was obvious that Hedges was surprised and touched by her in that scene.

[QUOTE] Who dies?

Meryl.

How does she die?

R229 / R232 Real fuckin’ cunt you are.

The ship hits an iceberg and there’s just one door for the three of them.

Is Meryl good enough for an Oscar nomination?

Hint: Meryl Streep isn’t playing Molly Brown in this.

R236, there is nothing Oscar worthy about this film.

Streep could pull of an Oscar nomination given how unusual this year is, but the picture is basically an ensemble and it's hard to elevate her performance as more significant than the other ladies.

It was ok. The cast are great -maybe they could win outstanding cast in SAG. Meryl and Candace could snag nominations and even wins in some award bodies. And I thought you can easily pick out which lines are improvised.

I thought it was mediocre at best. Lucas Hodges is awful in it. Awful. When the shocker at the end comes he seems to be in a bad SNL skit rather than an actual movie. Gemma Chan is a delight in anything though. And it mostly made no sense at all. Waste of time.

Lucas Hedges is also just not attractive. I’m so over him.

I smell the stench of G’s twat flapping in a downwind...

Streep is sublime in this, as are Wiest and Bergen.

The film itself is bittersweet, poignant, and blissfully paced.

I see you, heart like a frozen pea.

I agree with R241 who said, waste of time. This film proves that working with Steven Soderbergh can be a waste of time. He and Meryl are 0 - 2 now. They should give it up. Julia Roberts should be grateful she is too young to be in this. Lucas Hedges needs a bath.

You cunts have no taste, twats for brains, and again, frozen peas for hearts.

These old age reflection movies, such as the abysmal On Golden Pond, are really painful. Even Cocoon was torture. I don't wish to go through it again.

"The Whales of August" is even worse than "On Golden Pond".

That's uh...specific, R51.

I'm sure Lucas Hedges has smegma which I'd like to slurp on!

Lucas Hedges eugh

I still have difficulties wrapping my head around the fact that Dianne Weist came up with some of her most profound lines herself (like the one with Elon Musk and the artificial stars, or her reply to Hedges' character in their scene together). If the movie were a book those would've been two moments I'd have to put down the book to process what I've just read. Yeah, Mary!

R251 Right? She and Streep came up with same amazing dialogue.

I watched it a fourth time, this time with my mom. I am so in love with this movie. I know, not much happens and it’s a slow burn but it’s just so exquisitely profound.

My favorite thing Meryl has done in YEARS.

As much as I truly love Candice in this, this is the kind of pic I’d LOVE for Lange and Streep to do together. God, they’d be so good together.

I kept picturing Lange opposite Streep in that final scene in Alice’s room.

Anyway, this deserves a Criterion release. It just feels [italic]feels[/italic] like a film I’d stumble upon in their collection.

*some amazing dialogue