Workplace Secrets

OP that’s every company in America.

My pussy stinks.

No one in the office knows.

OP, is your boss Vladimir Putin?

OP: why haven’t you turned him in?

Do you routinely aid and abet rapist embezzlers?

I used to be a teacher. Former friend, Grade 1 teacher, would take "dabs" each morning and at lunch. She was also escorting very part time, on the side.

R4 They are protected by a very large public institution.

I worked at a large company - there was a bathroom in the basement of one of the buildings that was known for gay hookups. I found out about it from a co-worker who asked me if I heard about the alley (the nickname for it). It was very out of the way for some reason off a long hallway (hence the nickname). The nearest thing to it was the gym. I went in once to see and sure enough, I see two sets of feet in the stall, then one pair go up and grunting ensues.

My last boss was a stupid cunt and I cursed her.

The head of our accounting department has been embezzling money by submitting fake invoices and approving payments of them, apparently for years. Our auditors never caught it. We have a team of forensic accountants working off-site to determine how far back it goes, but it’s apparently a decade or more. They’ll be finished by the middle of November, and he’ll be arrested around thanksgiving. He has no clue because he continues to do it. Sad.

Our global CEO is quite close with a certain greek god named company - and does his "personal" finances with him (not a gay thing - i'm just questioning if corp funds are moving over as well). CEO goes on and on about ethics - even hosts and "ethics day" and "town hall" - then forces brands within this beautiful company to give millions of dollars. This is dark - to the point of pitch black - the finance 'god' is now linked to Jeffrey Epstein and his ponzi scam on company pension plans.

Hermes?

I worked with a guy who murdered his wife and drove out into the desert and set her and the car on fire. I'm a little unclear how he got back from there. He's in prison for life now. He seemed to be a nice guy when I knew him!

Oh my!

This thread is very concerning.

I worked with Rita Crundwell. Enough said.

R9- Please post the fallout!

R12, have you visited him in jail? I wouldn't visit a murderer I didn't know. If I worked with one, I might go visit once out of curiosity.

R17 - no, I wasn't really friends with him that much. I did get his mugshot, though...

He’s no Chris Watts.

Good God R18. You deliver. And he's sounds like quite the little troublemaker in prison. Well, two offenses and one of them is sorta bitchy.

When I worked at the local library in high school it got out that the son of the raging cunt I worked for was a junkie.

Turning in a rapist is totally fine but what kind of idiot turns in someone stealing from a company? Unless you're the boss, acting like this concerns you shows how a total loser you are.

Corporate America deserves to be stolen from. I know this is clumsy grammar but whatever.

*Unless you're the owner

One of the senior vice presidents of a company I worked for years ago was a total cokehead. I would hear him snorting coke in a stall in the men's room all the time. I never reported him or anything because the last thing I wanted to do was get involved in a potential workplace shitstorm so I never told anyone.

In high school I worked at a frozen yogurt shop. The manager was this handsome, clean-cut, buff sporty guy. Very well-built. Married, with a couple of kids. Mid-thirties. I loved working shifts with him because he was upbeat and flirty. But maybe because he was much older than me, and had a wife and kids, I ultimately viewed him as a responsible adult and I respected his authority.

At some point our shop hired this absolute trainwreck of a girl. Mid-20s. She was a pretty, rail-thin bottle blond. She reeked of instability. I don't know how she even got the job, because our shop had quite a preppy vibe. She was hilarious though, and we became pretty good friends. I always had a thing for messy people when I was younger. I found them fascinating and fun to be around. Anyway, neither of us took our jobs very seriously, so when we had shifts together we were always laughing and yammering away . You'd be forgiven to conclude she was a meth junkie, because she was so skinny and her teeth looked harshed. As I got to know her, it was revealed that she was simply a gal who enjoyed cocaine and throwing up after every meal.

One night we clocked off and went back to her apartment. After downing several beers and sharing a joint, she revealed to me she was actively, regularly sleeping with our clean-cut married manager. I had to swear on my life not to tell. I believe, however, that his wife ended up finding out anyway.

I work for a large Corporation and travel (used to - on hold now) frequently. Several of my married coworkers have hooked up whilst traveling. One of them posts on Grinder when we travel. He’s always talking about his church and wife, meanwhile he’s blowing guys at the Hilton Garden Inn on a Tuesday. He doesn’t know I know. And he’s hot. For some reason, I like keeping this secret.

It's all bullshit. This is big corporate context, mind you, but I apply it across the board even when I worked retail and in small offices. Constant org changes? Bullshit, keep busy work, but somehow always finds budget. Reporting HR issues? More bullshit. You are now viewed as a squeaky wheel and will be offloaded ASAP Doing more than is asked? Bullshit. Don't ever do more than is asked or expected. They cannot deal with it. Being rewarded for competence? Bullshit. Soooo much incompetence. Do what is expected and at the minimum excellence per your conscience. Never over deliver. Want to rise to a higher level? Move companies.

[quote]I worked with Rita Crundwell. Enough said.

Did you see any of her horses?

OP, how did you end up getting a job at the White House?

A friend of mine was in a relationship with the disgraced ex-CEO of McDonalds when he got fired a year ago for workplace romantic indiscretion. Here's the kicker: Because he travelled 3 out of every 4 weeks, he had asked her to stay faithful to him during those weeks when he was away. Then one day the story blows up all over the actual world that he was sexting with an underling in the company (it was more than that, but that's what ran in the news). She clicks on the Daily Mail one morning, and BOOM. Not that it was so shocking that a divorced CEO is leveraging his power for sex in his company, but it was just shitty that he'd asked my friend explicitly to not seek sex outside of their relationship, and he made his request sound romantic and meaningful.

The reality is, the sexting for which he was fired was only one small incident in a vast sea of sexual gameplay during his tenure as CEO. McDonalds is currently trying to rescind the $30,000,000 severance package he walked away with, because of new information they have discovered subsequent to his stepping down from the company. And he has a lawyer arguing on his behalf that they could have easily dug up so much more on him at the time, but they didn't. So why should he give the money back now?

Here's more:

Is the Greek god company Nike?

I work for a large company and they keep making the Sams mistakes over and over. They keep laying off front line workers when they get into a budget crisis. Now they’ve laid off local executives all over (shocker) but just replaced them with executives at a different level. The executives just have meetings all day. The real workers keep having to do more and more work. The executives don’t care. I don’t know if half of them know what they’re doing, and many don’t know how to do the work of the workers.

Not a secret folks.

Why was your friend fucking the McDonald’s guy? He is unattractive and looks like a Trump Supporter

That McDonalds guy is so ugly, but he's rich. Women are such whores.

R34, see R35. I agree, though, he's ugly as fuck. Oh, and apparently he's "charismatic."

R34 And he's British.

OP is Jared Kushner.

Worked at a company. I found out that as a little girl a coworker killed someone while playing with a gun. Coworker was a sweet darling woman and I never told or let on I knew. It was 40 or more years in the past.

I worked at a university in Manhattan. A doorman on night duty used to get blown by female students at his desk and was fired when someone noticed a woman’s shoe under the desk as she come back to the dormitory building.

I used to work in HR and part of my job was to do background checks on new hires. Holy shit what some people get up to!

Why would you lie about having a college degree? We're eventually going to find out when I call your alma mater.

[quote]He’s always talking about his church and wife, meanwhile he’s blowing guys at the Hilton Garden Inn on a Tuesday.

Lol, R26. That's poetry.

[quote] We're eventually going to find out when I call your alma mater.

Call someone's alma mater? Since when do universities and colleges verify degrees by phone? They send what's known as a "transcript." And you request them online. Liar. You've been busted, Boris. Again.

This wasn’t a secret - because it was the talk of the company when I was hired by a nonprofit. But it was kind of shocking.

A security guard was doing his rounds one night and an employee was working late... while using a dildo at her desk. He reported it and she was fired.

I’m not really of the corporate world, but all I could wonder was, what specific language in a contract or employee handbook would that be in violation of? I mean, surely it’s not spelled out one is FORBIDDEN to dildo one’s self at work...

r43 I'm not r41 but sometimes HR will just call to verify, esp. is the candidate is a recent graduate.

What a shitty thing to do r44. If I had seen that, I would've just kept quiet.

Well, unless you work for a sex toy or porn company then doing dildo @ work is not "working". So they probably got her there... But I always wondered under which Corporate Policy Chris Watts was fired from with Anadarko. I mean, obv. you cannot use worksites as a body dumping ground, but what specific rule was it that terminated him?? Ethics? I have never read in my Corp Code of Ethics anything as heinous as this. Perhaps there are no rules and being in violation of State/Fed laws is enuf? But what was the reason on his separation papers?

Soylent Green is people.

And trust me, you don't even want to know what Soylent Blue is.

I worked under a frightening mad woman who drugged her husband regularly. She was chronically coked out of her gourd, drunk, or some combination of the two. I only was able to remain in the position for two years, despite excellent pay and perks. I suppose she felt I was a "friend" since she confided all sorts of crazy shit one sees on a tawdry crime television programme.

She would drug her husband because he complained too much after getting home from work. She said that was a buzzkill, and began with slipping him a bit of Xanax, in the hopes of shutting him up. She also drugged her husband at night because she didn't want to fuck him. She was meant to get pregnant also, but wasn't keen on the idea, so she began to drug him almost every night with warm milk, or herbal teas, and more downers. It was always a combination of benzos, and a very strong sedative. Some nights, she encouraged him to get drunk, and still drugged him.

She had also bragged about serving him food she would intentionally leave out, and tomato sauce past its expiry to cause him to suffer as a cruel retaliation for petty things. I seriously began to fear for my own safety, as I had to travel with her a few times each year. She also acted at times like she found me physically attractive, which was cause for more concern.

I know I probably should have turned her name into the police, but I was young, and really needed my job. Her husband is still alive, so I don't feel so guilty any longer. I'm probably not the only one she told these things to, I would imagine. Her sister was also Schizophrenic, and lived with a caretaker since she was fifteen. Their mum was batshit crazy as well.

[quote]Call someone's alma mater? Since when do universities and colleges verify degrees by phone?

This was in the olden days. I know you can't conceive of a time before you were alive, but it existed. You would have to call up the "Records" Department, and yes, they would send a transcript, but most of the time all we wanted to know was if a degree was issued, and most people would just reply yes or no because it saved them having to make a copy of the transcript and mail it out.

These days there are companies who provide the service of background checks, so most companies just farm the work out to them.

My ex boss is in Jeffrey Epstein's black book. I knew my boss was odd and creepy looking, but I didn't know he was pay for access to underage girls creepy.

r51, why did you leave the employ of Bill Clinton?

I worked at a law firm for two summers in college. One lawyer especially was nice and would invite us interns to his beach house where his family stayed. He and his wife had two cute daughters.

At the end of the second summer, I got to work and his office was cleared out. The official story was he quit. The truth is he and a hot contractor who was working on the office would meet at the office late at night and have sex on the board room table. One of the partners noticed the lawyer would send complete documents timestamped around 11 pm, came in once to investigate, and caught them fucking.

[quote]Well, unless you work for a sex toy or porn company then doing dildo @ work is not "working".

Funny you wrote that. Guess who's working for a sex-toy company?

I'm strangely attracted to him ^

The woman was dildoing herself after-hours when nobody else was there. Who cares?

Who knew that stabbing a dildo repeatedly into your hot, hungry hole at the workplace wasn’t considered professional??

Over the summer I was working from home. I hooked up the entire time, maybe worked 2 to 4 hours and let things slide. . I had a very ineffective manager who never checked in with me . I left that job and got a better work from a home gig with more money

r57 nobody was in the office. it was late at night. The security guard was just an asshole.

Back in the 90s I worked for a mortgage company. One of the women who worked there was responsible for processing mortgage payments that weren’t the exact amount that had been agreed to.

Her job consisted of hand entering these odd amounts and crediting them to the account. She also had her own mortgage through this company and was pushing through payments on her own mortgage and had been doing so for at least 18 months without making a single real payment.

The auditors caught her, she got fired and I heard lost her house because she was so far behind there was no way she was ever going to catch up.

r60 what an idiot. Why not just spread out the missed payments lol

R10 is talking about Apollo and Leon Black

I was working a prominent Canadian university in the accounting department. I began noticing that my boss was filing these expense reimbursements for office furniture that never showed up in our office. I hated my boss she was a cunt with a capital C and U and N and T. Anyways, I alerted the university's central finance department through their confidential fraud tip line. Fast-forward about two years later, I'm working for another company when I get a called from the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police kind of like Canada's FBI) asking for an interview to discuss anything I might know about expense fraud in my old job. I did. About a year later, my boss and seven other people were arrested for allegedly frauding the university out of millions of dollars. Enough for them to buy cottages and renovate them...that's where the furniture was going.

Good man. Well done. Are confidential fraud tip lines common in Canadian or US institutions?

Because she committed Felony level fraud R61. It was thousands of dollars. That money was spent.

R63 Did it make the news here?

Someone upthread mentioned they worked with Rita Crundwell. I recently watched the doc about her workplace embezzlement scheme. What a story! Amazing she got away with it for so long.

This thread has been forwarded to our legal department.

The son of an attorney who I worked for about four years ago slaughtered the sister of a girl he had a crush on. He was on several medications and had been violent to his family for some time.

I was still working for her at the time that things were happening but I quit working for her before the murder, and I remember her telling me that for a month she was going to be working from home because her son had a medical problem that she had to focus on and that it was a pretty serious problem.

About three months after I quit I was surfing a local news site and saw a name that looked familiar. It turned out to be her son. The account I was reading about was one of the arraignments he had when he was first arrested for the murder. He killed this girl about three weeks after I had quit working for his mother.

He was a minor at the time but he wound up being tried as an adult mostly because of how he behaved during the week long hearing where the court was trying to determine whether he was going to be tried as an adult.

He was convicted right after he turned 18 and he is serving a life sentence.

I had a single white female coworker who had a relative in HR. She would use her computer and get details to stalk men in the department.

The security guy who reported dildo gal was obviously a Datalounger.

In the '80s a woman used to do nose candy in a far-flung bathroom to get through the dreary 8:30-5:30 days as a secretary for a shipping company. One day she accidentally dropped the small baggie in one of the stalls and didn't know it. Hours later when she visited the bathroom to use the facilities properly, she noticed the dropped baggie on the floor of the stall. Realizing it was hers, she laughed and picked it up, grateful for her good luck and the poor attention-span of her uptight normie female co-workers. That woman was me, lol.

R64 In Canada some large employers have fraud reporting systems in place. My former employer had a fraud section because sadly,expenses and benefits fraud are far from uncommon in public education.

R66 Yes, it made the news in the city that the university is located.

Years ago, my employer hired a college student to be their server admin. When they eventually agreed to have an actual employee with the know-how and skills take over the job, the student refused to give him the admin credentials, meaning he couldn't view files and perform any work on the server. The employer wouldn't intervene, so this guy, totally exasperated, finally hacked his way into the server -- and discovered a trove of kiddy porn. Yep, the college student was using our server to host and share his collection of kiddy porn.

The employee reported it. The employer, fearful of looking stupid for having hired a college student for such a responsible position, decided not to report it. After stewing about it for a week, the employee decided to risk his job. He notified the police himself, and then sent an announcement on the all-staff email, telling everyone what he'd discovered.

Unfortunately, this was in the early days of the internet, and the local police had zero experience with online crime, so they said they had no means of proving the kiddy porn belonged to the student. So he got away with it. And the whistleblower employee, by then completely fed up with everyone's incompetence and desire to cover it up, quit and took an admin job with the state.

I had a 6 month affair with the president of the ad agency I worked at 10 years ago. He was married, kids, lived in Greenwich, CT, Princeton grad. (I’m a guy).

We used to meet up at a NY Sports Club near our office and fuck around in the showers and steam room. He eventually started renting us a hotel room at the W on Park Ave South. We’d fuck around then he’d take off for home, leaving me the hotel room. I’d live it up, order room service, have my bestie up to drain the mini-bar. It was a blast.

Sadly we only did this a few times before I got another job and we stopped hooking up. I felt bad for him. He LOVED dick so much but was so entrenched in his stifling, hetero world.

Of course, r71. It was a dildo GAL so clearly inappropriate and disgusting.

A dildo guy, on the other hand, would be given a large bottle of lube and asked if he needed anything else.

CFO of ad agency I work for was called out by several employees for making racist and homophobic remarks and for withholding raises for POC and gays. An outside counsel was brought in to conduct the investigation and concluded that he did nothing wrong. A few weeks later she was hired by the agency and given a nice cushy job with an equally nice salary.

What an amazing coincidence r77! Doesn't the world just make you sick sometimes?

I had an affair with a member of the board of directors of Medical Legal Society of British Columbia...while I was his patient...he propositioned me while I was under hypnosis in his office and it went from there. Lasted two years. We had sex in his office.

Two decades ago when I started at my present job a hot Middle Eastern guy effectively proportioned me by telling me how much he enjoyed gay guys sucking his enormous brown dick. (Wink, wink.) I ignored it out of an excess of caution. Since then I have wondered if there would have been any real risk to my job by meeting up with him after work in my office which has a locked door. One problem is that colleagues stay late unpredictably and it would be hard to explain why the tech guy was in my office for at hour at 6:30 pm. I mean, is it a firable offense to suck off the Middle Eastern tech guy in your office?

No doll, it is not. But it is a crime to let big, brown Vick pass you by.

R14 “Remember everything you share in HR is confidential...

A couple of years ago, I served as treasurer for a professional organization related to my job.

I embezzled several thousand dollars over the course of three years. When that misappropriation was detected, I was fired; I was only able to avoid prosecution by immediately repaying the funds and making a public admission on my social media accounts. This was covered in local media.

I still am horrified that I was capable of such a blatant disregard for people who had placed their trust in me. The entire time I embezzled, I just kept thinking, "OK, this is simply a loan, and I'll pay it back," and then, "I can't believe I'm not stopping this. How on Earth do I fix this?" I didn't feel like I could stop, and to whom could I go for help?

I can't undo the hurt I caused others, but I'd give anything to do so. I feel enormous guilt and shame to this day. I deserve this hell. I understand that.

Everyone who told me "You only apologized because you got caught" is mistaken. While I committed this crime, it felt like I was having an out-of-body experience and that I was watching someone else I didn't recognize do such horrible things.

Now, in order to express my humility to those people I harmed, I try to live my life for others, mostly through volunteering. I don't do it to make myself feel better. I do it because I owe it to society.

Anyway, I'm sorry for rambling. Thank you so much for listening, and my best to you all.

At one law firm I worked at there was a husband and wife team. He was the office runner guy and she was one of the better paralegals. They had been married for a few years and we’re both pastors in their church.

She started an affair with one of the senior partners who was also a deacon in his church. He was also probably in his early 60s and she was likely in her mid-40s. They were banging each other for quite a few months the husband found out and they separated but both still worked at the firm.

One weekend husband and wife they got into a knock Down drag out argument that lasted the entire weekend. They had cooled down enough when Monday morning came around that they were able to come to work without there being any problems until the end of the day that Monday.

On that Monday afternoon they started fighting again and this time the argument spilled out into the hallway of the law firm. They caused so much trouble that a couple of the attorneys and partners came out to intervene. Up until that point nobody really knew anything about what was going on because they had kept it to themselves and the old man partner there was certainly not talking about it to anybody.

The husband and wife team both got fired and the senior partner was censured by the partnership and his church. The husband and wife team both tried to sue the law firm for unlawful termination but the case was dismissed without the firm having to pay a lot of money in a settlement.

Wow, that is one churchy law firm. ^^ Are you in the Bible Belt?

No. That was in Denver, R85.

For years my department at work was controlled by a gang of middle aged female bullies. Their goal appeared to be to get people either to quit or have to go into therapy to survive. Administration knew exactly what was going on but did nothing. Finally they made the mistake of going after a Latinx coworker, who took her case to the EEOC (this was when it was still in operation under Obama.) HR called me in one day and asked me questions about what had gone on and I told them everything I knew. I never heard a word about what came afterwards, but the bullies were soon gone and our department was on a very tight budget.

That's your ads on the right, and that's HR on the left. If you saw the movie, then you understand.

***That's your ASS on the right.....

I swear that auto correct fucks up WAY more than I ever do!

R83, obviously, what you did is very wrong — but you clearly have remorse. Sometimes we make choices that are driven by issues that are buried beneath our every day consciousness. I also have made big mistakes in my life. I don’t know if you’ve done therapy, but please consider if you have not, it will help you continue to heal. The ultimate healing for you would be achieved by working with other people who have committed similar crimes, talking with them about how you made amends to those you harmed, and how you kept going and gave yourself permission to find happiness again. Please consider doing this — I think you’re a truly courageous person, your story matters, and I think you can help other people. Thank you for your post, you are living proof that people make mistakes and need second-chances.

The executive assistant to our CEO was a nasty, overbearing bitch. Just a horrible bitch. She basically ran the office because the CEO was close to retirement and had already checked out mentally, he was just counting down to when he could leave and go play golf for the rest of his life. Nobody could stand her. I got another job and was immensely happy to leave that office behind.

About a year or so later, I'm watching the news and bitch executive assistant got a DUI after she was pulled over for driving erratically through the center of whatever town she lived in, in front of dozens of witnesses. They showed her mugshot! I later learned she was fired from the company immediately afterwards. It really felt like poetic justice.

I worked with a lesbian who disappeared one day. She'd worked there for a couple of years and then, like that, she's gone: nobody is told anything, nobody knows anything.

A month or so later we learned that one evening the cleaning crew found her and another woman going at it "enthusiastically" in the boardroom, on the conference table. Her employment ended very shortly thereafter.

It was later said that since it was after work, she couldn't be fired for doing it on company time but that she was canned for doing it on the company table.

I hope the conference room table was wiped down with plenty of bleach.

R93: the dildo lady janitor.

R83, if that was some corporate monster you embezzled from, I don't think you need to go all Raskolnikov on yourself, tbh.

"What's that smell? Do you smell it? It smells like...."

Not a secret anymore. They guy who ran a data lab where I used to work was doing, for years, what's described upthread: ordering stuff and OK'ing the invoices himself. He managed, over about eight years, to order (steal) about $500,000 worth of stuff before he was caught. Techies, it'd seem, aren't that good at designing financial controls because none of the invoices should have been solely OK'd by him but all of them were and they all got paid. He could have gotten out of it by pleading guilty, claiming a mental illness, and getting a suspended sentence. He didn't, fought it, and got two and a half years in state prison.

Two things that were weird: no one liked him because he was an arrogant, nasty asshole, making me wonder why no-one caught on to him sooner because everyone, sooner or later, had it in for him. The other thing was the stuff: the $800 Lego sets of the Eiffel Tower and King Kong and the Coliseum, a dozen iPads at a time, ten of the highest-end Apple monitors, a Garburator garbage disposal, a table saw, an Eames chair, dozens of Playstations, a high-end Miele vacuum cleaner - you name it - and all of it found at his house when he was busted. He didn't sell any of it. In fact, he just stacked it up - hardly any of the boxes, the cops said, were open - in the garage at home.

R83, I once committed some minor crime. Shoplifting some minor item. I remember once I got home I felt this rush. Like a drug had hit my brain and was pleasurable. So I get the out of the body experience thing. I also realized some criminals must feel the same way, that doing crime is mind altering and a rush for them. I also realized immediately that I had better not do anything like that again. That it could literally become addictive and I would be out of control. BTW to this day I can recall how it felt and tyst it was exactly as I pushed the elevator button in my building It's going to be the straight and narrow for me.

I worked with a woman who was the mistress of a very famous murder victim. It was a long time ago, but one of those Vanity Fair stories. Although she kept herself well out of the story. There was a baby, born before the murder who was very well kept out of it. The victim’s wife was unable to conceive, so they adopted. And then his mistress has a baby. I still wonder if the wife knew, and that was part of the motive - jealousy for a baby.

It’s a small world and occasionally I’ll see her around town. So much time has passed, I don’t say a word.

R79 Big cock?

A few weeks ago, a guy who I used to work with wound up on the FBI's 10 most wanted people list. They announced it on the local news, which I was barely paying attention to, until they said his name.....

We had a regional sales manager who had three fake employees who were listed as delivery drivers. He would cash their checks every week, but he was also careful to schedule their vacations, give them annual reviews, and even contribute to the United Way in their names. This went on for at least a decade.

The only reason he got caught was that the President of the company stopped by one day to present one of them with a safe driving award.

[quote]R92 we learned that one evening the cleaning crew found her and another woman going at it "enthusiastically" in the boardroom, on the conference table.

More dildo-ing in the workplace!?

It is [italic]rampant.

r103 And sometimes couchant.

R99 you’ve made me curious

^ The Anne Woodward case, maybe?

The head of new business got drunk on a plane and lost her laptop and important confidential documents. She lied and said they were stolen.

r102 THAT MAKES NO SENSE. IF they were delivery drivers, wouldn't your company know that there is no shipment delivered by these drivers ever?

R99, not that old. Yes Ammon.

^^ Ted.