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SURPRISE! THERE WAS NO LAPTOP: Alleged Hunter Biden Emails Purchased in Ukraine for $5million!

On Wednesday, Time Magazine reported that overseas operatives were shopping explicit emails and photographs purporting to be of Joe Biden’s son in Kiev, Ukraine for $5 million — with the hope of selling them to GOP allies of President Donald Trump.

“The emails’ alleged availability, which has not been previously reported, comes to light in the wake of Giuliani’s recent claims that he obtained private photos and emails of Hunter Biden from a broken laptop abandoned in Delaware,” reported Simon Shuster. “Giuliani, who is President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, has passed this material to right-wing news outlets, which began publishing it last week. Giuliani did not respond to requests for comment on the origins of the material he obtained.”

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by Anonymousreply 124October 26, 2020 1:25 PM

Oopsie!

by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2020 12:32 AM

Oh, you don’t say, . . . . .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2020 12:38 AM

I'm surprised. Giuliani is always so credible.

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by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2020 12:41 AM

Aren’t you misrepresenting what the linked article states, OP?

by Anonymousreply 4October 22, 2020 12:52 AM

R4 He used the word 'alleged' which describes the components of this sideshow.

by Anonymousreply 5October 22, 2020 1:02 AM

Email doesn't exist solely on one physical hard drive. The same emails would be available to be hacked from the cloud. The story in places refers to the emails in Ukraine as the "same information", but it admits that "the two people said they could not confirm whether any of the material presented to them was the same as that which has been recently published in the U.S."

by Anonymousreply 6October 22, 2020 1:10 AM

Smear campaign; epic fail

by Anonymousreply 7October 22, 2020 1:18 AM

It would be one hell of a coincidence if the emails for offer in 2019 were completely different than the ones on the laptop. Seems far more likely that they're the same files.

by Anonymousreply 8October 22, 2020 1:22 AM

I enjoyed the claim by the Russian agent that they not only had more emails but more Hunter Biden laptops. Two laptops? Three laptops? Why not five? (Collect them all!)

by Anonymousreply 9October 22, 2020 1:33 AM

Just a big ol' stack o' laptops, each one more scandalous than the last!

by Anonymousreply 10October 22, 2020 1:37 AM

Why would Hunter get a laptop repaired at some computer repair shop? Buying a new one is cheaper than repairing an old one.

I hope Rudy and Hunter take this to the Steve Wilkos Show.

by Anonymousreply 11October 22, 2020 1:43 AM

One laptop? How about two? Or three? Hell, Rudy is running Laptops-R-Us.

by Anonymousreply 12October 22, 2020 2:04 AM

and even IRAN is now in on the act to defoul the american election

by Anonymousreply 13October 22, 2020 2:06 AM

Has Jacob Wohl orchestrated all this? It has his special touch of unbridled stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 14October 22, 2020 2:16 AM

Trump and Giuliani don't really care if it's true or lies. In fact, I'm sure they know it's fabricated. They just want to throw out more bullshit as an expose about his opponent and his son as a "scandal", hoping it will have a similar detrimental effect as it did with Hillary and her emails in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 15October 22, 2020 2:21 AM

Is this that Dumpie spent campaign donations on?

by Anonymousreply 16October 22, 2020 2:24 AM

Well that and a fleet of luxury vehicles for campaign staff and pointless and super-expensive vanity ads.

by Anonymousreply 17October 22, 2020 2:27 AM

[quote]Why would Hunter get a laptop repaired at some computer repair shop?

The lesson is not to leave a laptop with incriminating evidence about yourself and your father at a repair shop.

by Anonymousreply 18October 22, 2020 2:29 AM

R6/R18: Какая погода во Владивостоке?

by Anonymousreply 19October 22, 2020 2:33 AM

R4 sounds like a member of the senate judiciary committee...LINDZ?? Is that you???

by Anonymousreply 20October 22, 2020 2:34 AM

Of course R6, cause Giuliani, known to muck about in Ukraine, said pshaw to those fake Hunter Biden emails, knowing full well he’d find a patriotic Mr Robot in Wilmington with the real versions.

HOW DUMB CAN YOU BE?

by Anonymousreply 21October 22, 2020 2:37 AM

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH???!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 22October 22, 2020 2:40 AM

For 5 million for that? Only the MAGAts cared about this.

by Anonymousreply 23October 22, 2020 2:44 AM

[quote] The lesson is not to leave a laptop with incriminating evidence about yourself and your father at a repair shop.

No, R18, the lesson is that you have no reason to be here. This has nothing to do with you. Keep your big fat potato face in russia. trump is toast and so are you.

by Anonymousreply 24October 22, 2020 2:48 AM

Why isn't Hunter speaking out against all of this muck and gunk? Are the Bidens deliberately staying mum and just letting the cow step in its own dung?

by Anonymousreply 25October 22, 2020 3:21 AM

Because it’s all true, turdball R25

None of the Bidens have said the emails are false or the laptop is a fake. The campaign hasn’t either. They just call them “smears.” Slippery.

by Anonymousreply 26October 22, 2020 3:26 AM

They make it so easy R25.

by Anonymousreply 27October 22, 2020 3:29 AM

I have never had a laptop repaired. Doesn’t everyone just buy a new one instead?

by Anonymousreply 28October 22, 2020 3:30 AM

[quote] Because it’s all true, turdball [R25]

R26 No, it isn't. What's true is that you have no need to be here. What time will you be unshackled from your desk?

by Anonymousreply 29October 22, 2020 3:31 AM

Boris, here's a little something to read while you sit on a potty that doest have a seat. It will distract you from the cold, filthy ceramic bowl you have to use.

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by Anonymousreply 30October 22, 2020 3:39 AM

R26 I don't understand why you had to go there with "turdball." Who raised you? Surely you can answer a simple question without belittling and shaming the questioner, yes? Although, anyone who used a word like "turdball" is really only humiliating themselves.

by Anonymousreply 31October 22, 2020 4:16 AM

Russian wolves raised him, R31.

Their time would have been better spent devouring him.

by Anonymousreply 32October 22, 2020 4:27 AM

How does the laptop repair guy come into play? Where did Ghouliani find that guy?

by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2020 4:30 AM

This is like something out of Advise and Consent

by Anonymousreply 34October 22, 2020 4:32 AM

The thing about this laptop tale is that it isn't really a news story, no more than the Jacob Wohl shenanigans were. The emails look faked and the story about how the laptop even got to the repair shop is sketchy, and there's no convincing timeline of the provenance of it. All the press has managed to do is dig up information that makes the laptop files look completely fake.

The only story here is the same kind of story we get with Wohl: someone tried to fake something and looked like a dipshit when they messed it all up.

Biden won't and shouldn't comment on the situation because if he does, he'll legitimize the "Biden denies!" angle and the media focus will switch to that instead of where it is now, on whether it's all been faked or not. The reason the media got so pissy when Biden scolded that journalist pestering him about this is because they WANT him to comment on it desperately, because then they can run with "Biden denies laptop!" and suddenly everyone is wanting to know everything about the laptop.

by Anonymousreply 35October 22, 2020 4:35 AM

Instead of a Mail Order Bride, this administration went to Ukraine for a Mail Order Scandal.

As quality as Tara Reid's plastic surgery!

by Anonymousreply 36October 22, 2020 4:36 AM

To all you Russkies on here, didn't the DNI just say he was going after your sorry asses for al this meddling...? Oh wait, never mind.

by Anonymousreply 37October 22, 2020 4:36 AM

[quote]Biden won't and shouldn't comment on the situation because if he does, he'll legitimize the "Biden denies!" angle and the media focus will switch to that instead of where it is now, on whether it's all been faked or not.

Exactly. Finally someone realizes that by responding to ludicrous charges, it just makes them seem more mainstream and turns it into a "both sides" situation.

by Anonymousreply 38October 22, 2020 4:38 AM

The repair shop owner is shady if he is searching through peoples laptops just look at their files. And then contacting Rudy Giuliani. Out him.

by Anonymousreply 39October 22, 2020 5:01 AM

Giuliani has evidence that Hunter Biden is a giant alien pumpkin from the planet Pipplpotl. So far the Biden campaign has refused to deny this and it makes me very suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 40October 22, 2020 5:06 AM

Exactly, r35.

The streisand effect.

by Anonymousreply 41October 22, 2020 5:13 AM

The computer repair shop owner, "Mac" Isaac is also a Trump supporter and is legally BLIND.

Unable to identify faces,he apparently has no clue who dropped off the computer even though he dealt with that person .

by Anonymousreply 42October 22, 2020 5:17 AM

And the security footage has been conveniently erased, R42.

Not shady af AT ALL! 'Twoud totally hold up in court!

by Anonymousreply 43October 22, 2020 5:23 AM

"Trump and Giuliani don't really care if it's true or lies"

The pattern is to lie, have it picked-up by right wing media- then have Trump quote it over and over.

by Anonymousreply 44October 22, 2020 8:40 AM

No, one of the Bidens needs to issue a statement that no laptop was ever dropped-off there or something. The Bidens go mute every time there's a scandal, which lets the only comments come from right wing media. Bad mistake.

by Anonymousreply 45October 22, 2020 8:44 AM

They don’t want to be on the defensive r45 and I think that’s smart because nothing sticks. The right keeps throwing shit and Biden won’t take the bait.

by Anonymousreply 46October 22, 2020 9:45 AM

This hast stopped FOX from talking about Hunter Biden non stop without mentioning this little fact.

by Anonymousreply 47October 22, 2020 9:53 AM

They’d talk about him anyway tho.

by Anonymousreply 48October 22, 2020 9:54 AM

So these emails are real. Hunter Biden and his papa Joe is profiting from vice presidency. Corruption. Lock them up!

by Anonymousreply 49October 22, 2020 10:03 AM

The emails are not real R49. Has anyone ever told you that you are a shitty troll? Because i have read better trolling lines from 5 year olds than the simplistic one you just posted. You are not even entertaining. Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 50October 22, 2020 10:54 AM

[quote]The computer repair shop owner, "Mac" Isaac

His name isn't Mac, his last name is Mac Isaac. It's usually spelled MacIssac without the space, which is causing some confusion, I think.

And no, R45, the "only comments" aren't from rightwing media. In case you haven't noticed, this entire thread is from yet another regular non-propaganda media outlet which again, like others, has found more proof this is fake. THIS is what's being written about the laptop "news." That's why Biden doesn't need to say anything, it's already been said: it's fake, it's not news, move on.

by Anonymousreply 51October 22, 2020 1:08 PM

Awwww I guess they have nothing. Are they going to apologize? Or is being the party of personal responsibility inconvenient to their agenda just like the pandemic is?

by Anonymousreply 52October 22, 2020 1:15 PM

WTF how do I sell my emails for millions? I seemed to have missed out in this trend!

by Anonymousreply 53October 22, 2020 1:26 PM

[quote]WTF how do I sell my emails for millions?

It's simple really.

First, get your father to run for president.

by Anonymousreply 54October 22, 2020 1:33 PM

All the other fakery aside, we'll still have the Hunter Biden "druggy nudies." Who took them?

An aggrieved girlfriend or one-nigh stand who took them to Giuliani? A "honey pot" set up by Bannon?

by Anonymousreply 55October 22, 2020 2:43 PM

[quote] All the other fakery aside, we'll still have the Hunter Biden "druggy nudies."

No, you still have the "druggy nudies." Hunter Biden isn't running for president.

Stop trying to make the pics happen. No one is going to change their vote.

by Anonymousreply 56October 22, 2020 2:53 PM

Well I'd certainly like to see them.

by Anonymousreply 57October 22, 2020 3:10 PM

The Ruskies must've gotten in a fresh shipment of Krokodil. They're all so active today.

by Anonymousreply 58October 22, 2020 3:27 PM

R51 Occasionally Mr. MacIsaac has been referred to as "Mac" Isaac

Confusing is right but I'm assuming MacIsaac is correct.

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by Anonymousreply 59October 22, 2020 4:06 PM

How did this MacIsaac guy get involved?

by Anonymousreply 60October 22, 2020 4:52 PM

Rudy won't provide evidence for his claims, when the media requests it

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by Anonymousreply 61October 22, 2020 7:15 PM

LOL, R61. Sounds totally legit

by Anonymousreply 62October 22, 2020 7:33 PM

R61 I had a major crush on NYT reporter Nick Confessore when he first began appearing on news programs to report stories. He was handsome/borderline pretty boy. I'm surprised to learn he's 44., I thought he would be mid thirties. He's still good looking considering his age.

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by Anonymousreply 63October 22, 2020 7:45 PM

Rudy lied - shocker!!!

by Anonymousreply 64October 22, 2020 9:03 PM

If MacIsaac is so blind that he can't make out faces, how was he able to retrieve and read files on a laptop?

by Anonymousreply 65October 22, 2020 10:25 PM

Rudy was just caught masturbating in a hotel room with a 15 year old girl! And I have video evidence, coming to Amazon tomorrow!

by Anonymousreply 66October 22, 2020 10:42 PM

Rudy is the Zodiac killer! I refuse to turn over evidence proving it, so you just have to believe me!

by Anonymousreply 67October 22, 2020 10:46 PM

Steve Bannon predicts Rudy Giuliani will be named interim director of the FBI

Hmmmm......ok.

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by Anonymousreply 68October 22, 2020 10:50 PM

More confirmation that the laptop story is bullshit

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by Anonymousreply 69October 22, 2020 11:53 PM

Really Rose, next you will tell us there is no Santa Claus.

by Anonymousreply 70October 23, 2020 12:13 AM

This is another attempt at Pizzagate

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by Anonymousreply 71October 23, 2020 12:41 AM

[quote] Steve Bannon predicts Rudy Giuliani will be named interim director of the FBI

😂😂😂😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 72October 23, 2020 3:02 AM

Please let him lose and be in court and jail constantly for his corruption and lies.

by Anonymousreply 73October 23, 2020 3:05 AM

Could the likes of Trump and his acolytes be sued by Hunter for the false claims they are spreading?

by Anonymousreply 74October 23, 2020 3:14 AM

In desperation- after a year of searching for dirt on Biden over there on Trump's orders- Rudy colluded with the Russians to create a laptop that had some real things on it (hacked dirty photos and emails) mixed with some fake things/kompromat. It's not important if it's real- it's that it be heard and seen before election day.

Rudy particularly seems to want the photos to hit the tabloids.

by Anonymousreply 75October 23, 2020 3:37 AM

Ha! The WSJ itself has now debunked the Biden influence peddling story.

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by Anonymousreply 76October 23, 2020 4:27 AM

WSJ article archived:

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by Anonymousreply 77October 23, 2020 4:31 AM

If Giuliani had simply moved retired in 2002, moved to Boca, and taken up golf, he would have been able to die a national hero. The eulogies would rival those of Mother fucking Teresa. But then he dipped his alcoholic, arthritic toes into the Trump cesspool. Now the first paragraph of every Giuliani death announcement will be a long disclaimer about how he turned into a total dumpster fire after going whole-hog into supporting Trump and advancing every idiotic, patently false conspiracy theory he could find on Facebook.

by Anonymousreply 78October 23, 2020 4:57 AM

You're forgetting his monumentally fucked up run for POTUS.

He decided to wait until the Florida primary to start his campaign because, you know, who gives a fuck before then?

He's just a really nasty, weird dude and he always was that way - BEFORE 9/11 he was a nasty fucking piece of work. 9/11 saved him but he's blown it to smithereens now.

The Borat flick comes out tomorrow so that'll be fun.

by Anonymousreply 79October 23, 2020 5:04 AM

This is extremely interesting.

Hahahahah donald and his fucking grifters get busted every time.

by Anonymousreply 80October 23, 2020 10:46 AM

R78 Giuliani had already lost whatever credibility he may have earned by capitalizing on 9/11. As Joe Biden said once: "Think about it, Rudy Giuliani, there's only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11".

He earned so much money on being a "specialist" of various security groups, even though he had willfully disregarded several fundamentals that led to the deaths of hundreds of first responders on 9/11.

by Anonymousreply 81October 23, 2020 12:56 PM

[quote] Why would Hunter get a laptop repaired at some computer repair shop?

And at a repair shop some 3,000 miles from where he was living at that!

Hmmm. My laptop isn’t working right. Lemme hop on a jet and fly across the country.

by Anonymousreply 82October 23, 2020 1:13 PM

[quote] Giuliani has evidence that Hunter Biden is a giant alien pumpkin from the planet Pipplpotl.

I KNEW it! I knew he was real!

by Anonymousreply 83October 23, 2020 1:14 PM

[quote]Ha! The WSJ itself has now debunked the Biden influence peddling story.

It looks like a strawman article. The article states, "Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden." However, that's not the allegation. The first paragraph states, correctly, that the allegation is that "Joe Biden was part of discussions around his son’s efforts to form an investment venture with a Chinese oil company." Joe Biden himself wasn't going to a role with the company.

“'Joe Biden has never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any overseas business whatsoever. He has never held stock in any such business arrangements nor has any family member or any other person ever held stock for him,' said Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates in a statement." Again, that wasn't the allegation.

by Anonymousreply 84October 23, 2020 11:59 PM

[quote] Again, that wasn't the allegation.

Pssst. No one cares. Truly. Nobody gives a rat’s ass.

by Anonymousreply 85October 24, 2020 12:32 AM

[quote]Pssst. No one cares. Truly. Nobody gives a rat’s ass.

Thanks you for the news report from inside the bubble.

by Anonymousreply 86October 24, 2020 3:22 AM

Giuliani is such trash. He's always been trash.

by Anonymousreply 87October 24, 2020 3:26 AM

I just realized how much Trump is trying to copy 2016, 2016 Anthony Wieners laptop appears at the last minute, 2020 it is Hunter Biden's laptop at the last minute. 2016 it is Hillary's emails, 2020 is it Hunter and Joe's emails. 2016 Jim Comey announces a last minute opening of an investigation of Hillary, 2020 will Bill Barr announce a last minute investigation of Joe Biden?

by Anonymousreply 88October 24, 2020 3:28 AM

[quote] Thanks you for the news report from inside the bubble.

🙄 This has nothing to do with “the bubble.” The only people who care about the intricacies (“that’s not the allegation”) of this alleged “scandal,” are Faux News devotees and inhabitants of reich-wing Twitter. Average Americans aren’t worried about this nonsense on any level. They’re not. They’re worried about the pandemic. They’re worried about when they are getting another stimulus check. They’re worried about jobs, putting food on the table, and not being evicted. They do not care about the contours of Rudy’s falsified allegations.

by Anonymousreply 89October 24, 2020 4:18 AM

[quote] Thanks you for the news report from inside the bubble.

🙄 This has nothing to do with “the bubble.” The only people who care about the intricacies (“that’s not the allegation”) of this alleged “scandal,” are Faux News devotees and inhabitants of reich-wing Twitter. Average Americans aren’t worried about this nonsense on any level. They’re not. They’re worried about the pandemic. They’re worried about when they are getting another stimulus check. They’re worried about jobs, putting food on the table, and not being evicted. They do not care about the contours of Rudy’s falsified allegations.

by Anonymousreply 90October 24, 2020 4:18 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 91October 24, 2020 4:21 AM

I eat old people’s excrement.

by Anonymousreply 92October 24, 2020 4:24 AM

There is no R91.

by Anonymousreply 93October 24, 2020 4:25 AM

Giuliani needs to go to jail. I think the image of him in an orange jumpsuit instead of the Republicans wet dream of Hillary would be quite ironic. America's Mayor goes to jail.

by Anonymousreply 94October 24, 2020 4:25 AM

Perhaps r91 can explain why Giuliani and MacIsaac can't keep their stories straight about how they came into possession of the laptop

by Anonymousreply 95October 24, 2020 4:28 AM

I installed a spycam in my grandmother's bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 96October 24, 2020 4:29 AM

* REALLY* R91? Your source is Daily Mail? LOL! What's next- News of the World?!

by Anonymousreply 97October 24, 2020 4:35 AM

GRU say laptop totally for realz.

by Anonymousreply 98October 24, 2020 4:43 AM

[quote]GRU say laptop totally for realz.

They should know, they built it.

by Anonymousreply 99October 24, 2020 5:07 AM

r91 — Hunter Biden could shoot a troupe of Girl Scouts on Fifth Avenue, give Rush Limbaugh mouth-to-mouth respiration AND declare Dolly Parton and Elizabeth Montgomery to be the biggest cunts ever born ...

... and I will STILL vote for Biden over Cheetolini.

by Anonymousreply 100October 24, 2020 5:20 AM

Lev Parnas weighs in

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by Anonymousreply 101October 24, 2020 5:58 PM

The content of Bertrand's tweets re Lev Parnas:

Exclusive: Ex Giuliani associate Lev Parnas tells me Giuliani was offered salacious Biden photos/emails in May 2019 by associate of Burisma founder Zlochevsky, who wanted to curry favor w/Trump admin. Material was also for sale in Kyiv in Sept ‘19.

It’s not clear how Zlochevsky would have gotten the Hunter Biden material he was allegedly trying to leverage, or whether it’s same as that published by NYpost. But Parnas says Zlochevsky’s associate suggested Hunter devices were compromised on a trip to Kazakhstan in 2014.

by Anonymousreply 102October 24, 2020 6:21 PM

Ukrainian honey pot)s) lured Hunter to his room and proceeded to work ther professional kompormat skills like the pros they are.

by Anonymousreply 103October 24, 2020 6:34 PM

Exactly, r103.

by Anonymousreply 104October 24, 2020 6:45 PM

R91 thinks Hillary has an ankle monitor strapped to one of her cankles, under her baggy granny slacks.

by Anonymousreply 105October 24, 2020 6:54 PM

They also think Jennifer Aniston has an ankle monitor.

by Anonymousreply 106October 24, 2020 8:48 PM

Surprise! It was a White House lawyer who shipped the Hunter Biden story to the Wall Street Journal.

Our tax dollars at work!

(There's a story about it at The Hill but DL won't let me link to it for some reason)

by Anonymousreply 107October 26, 2020 12:42 AM

[quote]The FBI subpoenat begs to disagree. The FBI's subpoena of Hunter Biden's alleged laptop and hard drive was linked to a money laundering investigation in late 2019, it has been revealed.

There is no laptop belonging to the real Hunter Biden in the repair shop. There was a laptop or laptops left at the repair shop by someone claiming to be Hunter Biden. See the difference?

The only way a laptop at this shop belongs to Hunter is if it was stolen property.

The emails and photos by all accounts were either hacked from Hunter's iCloud and/or from the breach of his actual laptop on this trip to Kazakhstan or under similar circumstances. They are probably supplemented by material from the Burisma hack which came to light early this year.

The purpose of the repair shop laptop is only to create a provenance legend for the hacked kompromat they planned to release. They had to have an 'origins' story to shop to the media. I guess Wikileaks didn't cut it as a vehicle this time.

by Anonymousreply 108October 26, 2020 1:14 AM

Lev & Igor dropped the laptop off at the shop.

What's suspicious about that?

by Anonymousreply 109October 26, 2020 1:16 AM

Giuliani .. he’s the one that Borat easily suckered into a bedroom with his hands down his pants, right? If SBC can get him that easily, think of what Putin has on him ...

by Anonymousreply 110October 26, 2020 1:20 AM

I wonder if Rudy's web browser search history would show "computer repair shop Delaware blind owner?"

by Anonymousreply 111October 26, 2020 1:22 AM

Apologies if already posted. I'm pasting today's NYT story about the WSJ 'bombshell' that Trump announced a few days ago on twitter - and which we thought to be the editorial they published. Turns out Trump was expecting a real expose which turned out to be the "Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden” story.

Pt.1 Trump Had One Last Story to Sell. The Wall Street Journal Wouldn’t Buy It.

Inside the White House’s secret, last-ditch effort to change the narrative, and the election — and the return of the media gatekeepers.

By early October, even people inside the White House believed President Trump’s re-election campaign needed a desperate rescue mission. So three men allied with the president gathered at a house in McLean, Va., to launch one.

The host was Arthur Schwartz, a New York public relations man close to President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Jr. The guests were a White House lawyer, Eric Herschmann, and a former deputy White House counsel, Stefan Passantino, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

Mr. Herschmann knew the subject matter they were there to discuss. He had represented Mr. Trump during the impeachment trial early this year, and he tried to deflect allegations against the president in part by pointing to Hunter Biden’s work in Ukraine. More recently, he has been working on the White House payroll with a hazy portfolio, listed as “a senior adviser to the president,” and remains close to Jared Kushner.

The three had pinned their hopes for re-electing the president on a fourth guest, a straight-shooting Wall Street Journal White House reporter named Michael Bender. They delivered the goods to him there: a cache of emails detailing Hunter Biden’s business activities, and, on speaker phone, a former business partner of Hunter Biden’s named Tony Bobulinski. Mr. Bobulinski was willing to go on the record in The Journal with an explosive claim: that Joe Biden, the former vice president, had been aware of, and profited from, his son’s activities. The Trump team left believing that The Journal would blow the thing open and their excitement was conveyed to the president.

by Anonymousreply 112October 26, 2020 1:40 AM

Pt. 2

The Journal had seemed to be the perfect outlet for a story the Trump advisers believed could sink Mr. Biden’s candidacy. Its small-c conservatism in reporting means the work of its news pages carries credibility across the industry. And its readership leans further right than other big news outlets. Its Washington bureau chief, Paul Beckett, recently remarked at a virtual gathering of Journal reporters and editors that while he knows that the paper often delivers unwelcome news to the many Trump supporters who read it, The Journal should protect its unique position of being trusted across the political spectrum, two people familiar with the remarks said.

As the Trump team waited with excited anticipation for a Journal exposé, the newspaper did its due diligence: Mr. Bender and Mr. Beckett handed the story off to a well-regarded China correspondent, James Areddy, and a Capitol Hill reporter who had followed the Hunter Biden story, Andrew Duehren. Mr. Areddy interviewed Mr. Bobulinski. They began drafting an article.

Then things got messy. Without warning his notional allies, Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor and now a lawyer for President Trump, burst onto the scene with the tabloid version of the McLean crew’s carefully laid plot. Mr. Giuliani delivered a cache of documents of questionable provenance — but containing some of the same emails — to The New York Post, a sister publication to The Journal in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Mr. Giuliani had been working with the former Trump aide Steve Bannon, who also began leaking some of the emails to favored right-wing outlets. Mr. Giuliani’s complicated claim that the emails came from a laptop Hunter Biden had abandoned, and his refusal to let some reporters examine the laptop, cast a pall over the story — as did The Post’s reporting, which alleged but could not prove that Joe Biden had been involved in his son’s activities.

While the Trump team was clearly jumpy, editors in The Journal’s Washington bureau were wrestling with a central question: Could the documents, or Mr. Bobulinski, prove that Joe Biden was involved in his son’s lobbying? Or was this yet another story of the younger Mr. Biden trading on his family’s name — a perfectly good theme, but not a new one or one that needed urgently to be revealed before the election.

Mr. Trump and his allies expected the Journal story to appear Monday, Oct. 19, according to Mr. Bannon. That would be late in the campaign, but not too late — and could shape that week’s news cycle heading into the crucial final debate last Thursday. An “important piece” in The Journal would be coming soon, Mr. Trump told aides on a conference call that day.

His comment was not appreciated inside The Journal.

“The editors didn’t like Trump’s insinuation that we were being teed up to do this hit job,” a Journal reporter who wasn’t directly involved in the story told me. But the reporters continued to work on the draft as the Thursday debate approached, indifferent to the White House’s frantic timeline.

by Anonymousreply 113October 26, 2020 1:41 AM

Pt. 3

Finally, Mr. Bobulinski got tired of waiting.

“He got spooked about whether they were going to do it or not,” Mr. Bannon said.

At 7:35 Wednesday evening, Mr. Bobulinski emailed an on-the-record, 684-word statement making his case to a range of news outlets. Breitbart News published it in full. He appeared the next day in Nashville to attend the debate as Mr. Trump’s surprise guest, and less than two hours before the debate was to begin, he read a six-minute statement to the press, detailing his allegations that the former vice president had involvement in his son’s business dealings.

When Mr. Trump stepped on stage, the president acted as though the details of the emails and the allegations were common knowledge. “You’re the big man, I think. I don’t know, maybe you’re not,” he told Mr. Biden at some point, a reference to an ambiguous sentence from the documents.

As the debate ended, The Wall Street Journal published a brief item, just the stub of Mr. Areddy and Mr. Duehren’s reporting. The core of it was that Mr. Bobulinski had failed to prove the central claim. “Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden,” The Journal reported.

Asked about The Journal’s handling of the story, the editor in chief, Matt Murray, said the paper did not discuss its newsgathering. “Our rigorous and trusted journalism speaks for itself,” Mr. Murray said in an emailed statement.

And if you’d been watching the debate, but hadn’t been obsessively watching Fox News or reading Breitbart, you would have had no idea what Mr. Trump was talking about. The story the Trump team hoped would upend the campaign was fading fast.

The McLean group's failed attempt to sway the election is partly just another story revealing the chaotic, threadbare quality of the Trump operation — a far cry from the coordinated “disinformation” machinery feared by liberals.

But it’s also about a larger shift in the American media, one in which the gatekeepers appear to have returned after a long absence.

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by Anonymousreply 114October 26, 2020 1:41 AM

Protestors hurled eggs at Rudy Giuliani in NYC

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by Anonymousreply 115October 26, 2020 2:11 AM

R115 I hope they were free range eggs.

by Anonymousreply 116October 26, 2020 2:12 AM

I don't think Hunter wants to admit he was such a pathetic druggie that he'd pass-out with strangers, who stole his cell phone, downloaded pics, stole his laptops, lied about their ages, plied him with drugs and sex, stole is money, got pregnant by him...

by Anonymousreply 117October 26, 2020 2:29 AM

Remember they tried to launder Biden kompromat the same way before through John Solomon at The Hill, which then Hannity took up and amplified. And for which Trump then tried to recruit the Ukrainian president to 'announce an investigation into the Bidens.' And for which Cheeto was duly impeached.

The only have one move, and I think people got wise to it not the least due to the impeachment.

by Anonymousreply 118October 26, 2020 2:33 AM

"Giuliani was offered salacious Biden photos/emails in May 2019 by associate of Burisma founder Zlochevsky, who wanted to curry favor w/Trump admin."

If Ghouliani was on a mission for Trump, couldn't that be more impeachment material?

Let's make sure the Democrats hold on to the House so if Trump is re-elected he will be in trouble from the get-go.

by Anonymousreply 119October 26, 2020 2:37 AM

[quote] Let's make sure the Democrats hold on to the House so if Trump is re-elected he will be in trouble from the get-go.

Try harder, Fake Democrat Concern Troll.

by Anonymousreply 120October 26, 2020 2:47 AM

Donald is still using moves his fucking Nazi father used. He has no imagination. He's not bright. He has stupid people around him because he is stupid.

This is exactly the same shit he was trying to force the Ukrainian President to do. This is Lev and Igor level bullshit, with Rudy the Perv jumping around like a demented rat on meth.

They are sub-standard even for cheap thugs.

by Anonymousreply 121October 26, 2020 2:49 AM

They don't even try to deny that they spent the past year trying to dig up dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden. Rudy fully admitted he had tried to get over to Ukraine to influence them to scour around for any salacious information they could find on the Bidens. He and Trump were so out of the closet about all of this. Trump got impeached over this shit. And they are still trying to make this happen, and there have so far been zero consequences. It's insane.

"Giuliani cancels a trip to Ukraine. He had planned to travel to Kiev to put pressure on President-elect Volodymyr Zelenskiy to reopen investigations, in the hope of dredging up dirt on the Bidens. The lawyer described the aim of his aborted visit as “meddling in an investigation” and admitted “somebody could say it’s improper”."

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by Anonymousreply 122October 26, 2020 3:03 AM

R74 - Yes because, unlike Ivanka and Jared who are trying to sue the Lincoln Project, Hunter is not a public government official.

by Anonymousreply 123October 26, 2020 1:10 PM

R115, and there will never be a NYT article or editorial on the people who were throwing eggs at Rudy. Instead, they will find one solemn Trump voter in Manhattan and write a 6 page story about that poor, disillusioned person.

by Anonymousreply 124October 26, 2020 1:25 PM
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