Supermodels who you feel are completely overhyped and overrated?

It’s odd when you realize Gia’s impact despite only working for a short few years. She destroyed her career very quickly

I never thought Kathy Ireland was anything special.

One of those faces that loves makeup. A blank canvas.

But I will say her pre-meth addicted Photos are truly superior. Once she became addicted every photo looked like a mannequin. Nothing behind the eyes.

Not meth, heroin. I have not much sympathy for her. Plucked out of obscurity, propelled into a life of inimaginable luxury and privilege most of us have no idea of, she had the world at her feet. And decided to throw it all away in the space of what? 2 years max. Silly girl.

Her hands had to be hidden in the Cosmo cover at OP because one of them had a large open wound from shooting up in the same spot too many times.

cheryl tiegs was more like a hot coworker.

Hadids, Jenner, and Cara Delevinge.

I love Kim Alexis but never understood niki taylor.

Sorry. I confused things. The problem with the Cosmo cover (which was her last) was regular track marks on her arms. She'd had surgery for a tunnelling abscess on her hand a year earlier.

[quote]By fall of ’81, Gia determined to make a modeling comeback but was met with skepticism and derision. Francesco Scavullo out of sympathy offered her a cover-shoot for Cosmopolitan magazine. It was a gift. Scavullo felt pity for the model he had photographed at the height of her dazzling but short-lived career. Wanting to help her, Scavullo insisted that Gia deserved the winter cover shoot for the April 1982 issue. Gia did not live up to the favor. Her arms, scarred from the puncture marks of her addiction to heroin, could not be concealed in the sleeveless Fabrice gown chosen for the cover. Scavullo got around the problem by having Gia keep her arms tucked behind her. It would be Gia Carangi’s last cover.

Janis Dickinson, self denominated " the first super model" when many models fit in that category before her, personally I had no idea who she was until America next top model. Here is her with Gia. As you can see, She was nothing special in comparison.

R9 - yeah Niki Taylor. I never understood it - for awhile, she was on more covers than anyone. Big nose, big teeth, brown eyes and moles. And she was like 16.

I never understood it.

There's already been repeated thread after repeated thread on this OP. Why did you find it necessary to come here and start another? Why? Why OP? Can you give us an intelligent, honest answer? Can you? Why would you come here and post this kind of shit yet AGAIN when there have already been so many prior threads on this EXACT same subject. Do you really think this is that damned interesting that it warrants another entire thread to be started? DO YOU??

Why couldn't you have done a search first OP? That would have been the polite thing to do. What you demonstrated was just plain selfishness. You have shown that you don't think about anybody but yourself. It's all about you and your own satisfaction. Next time before you post, do us all a favor and do a search. We don't need another duplicate thread just because of your laziness.

Linda evangelista..terrible last name too!

R13 STFU I like this thread, just get out if it doesn't interest you damnit!

Cara Delevingne, can't stand her. Never understood the hype

Wow I just read Gia's biography. What a waste of life, a very fast and sad life.

Gia and Cindy Crawford broke up the consistent trend of "All-American" girl-next-door but a million times better supermodel who were all had blond hair and blue eyes. Gia had more ethnic features, appeared to be far more sensual in her photos, as well as being overly bisexual.

Never liked Naomi. I always saw real meanness into her eyes

Amber Valetta is so overrated!

R20? Really? I thought Amber was one of the truly beautiful, natural ones. Authentically beautiful.

Rachel Hunter...not attractive in the face AT ALL. How did she get famous?

Gia could look beautiful or plain, depending on the pic. I find her pretty and sexy, but not all that, her features were a little hard/coarse. Cindy was prettier.

I like models that look like models, not cheerleaders. Ex, Nadja Auermann, Suzy Parker.

Cindy Crawford was my camp counselor one year. She wore pigtails and had the most luminous skin I have ever seen, and I've worked with Julianne Moore (seriously).

Kate Moss. Short (for a model), bland personality, bow-legged, and gave the same expression in most of her photos. Like Jackie O, her eyes were too widely spaced. She does have great cheekbones, though.

Any plus-sized "model." Also not a fan of Winnie Harlow.

Gisele Bundchen. Small eyes, big nose, heavy jaw. Very masculine looking.

*her eyes [bold]are[/bold] too widely spaced. Never heard of eyes moving closer together over time.

I always found Christy Turlington extremely bland in contrast with the other supermodels of her generation.

Cara Delevingne was the most beautiful child in Midwich.

Supermodels don't exist anymore.

I notice the male models in Vogue or GQ are a much higher standard than female ones, in terms of bone structure and facial beauty. It has always been this way.

Male models don’t make shit

Shocked Tyra hasn’t been attacked yet.

I second Kathy Ireland. Most of the big models on the early-mid 80s were so boring: Ireland, Kim Alexis, Shaun Casey, Willow Bay, etc.

R25 I've met Julianne Moore and her skin is amazing, so I can't imagine how much better Crawford's is.

R14, I think Linda is the best of them all.

Stella Tennant though... all she has is a scowl and a famous grandmother.

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The word is so overused, I'm omitting it from this sentence. imo there were less than ten supermodels, and they all dominated the 90s.

And my personal all-time favorite oddball bonus question 90s model was Kristen McMenamy.

Elle MacPherson

Christie Brinkley

Heidi Klum

I just don't get it. Of course they have good bodies (Klum's proportions aren't even that great though), but facially, I find them extremely average.

Now, one might think I have a bias against blondes. I wouldn't say that's the case though, I think there are some absolutely stunning (naturally) blonde women, or women like Gisele who aren't great beauties but have that je ne sais quoi that makes them stand out (and, for the record, I'm white and naturally blonde myself). However, I feel like in terms of facial beauty, blondes are held to considerably lower standards than brunettes or red-heads.

A tall, slim woman with long blonde hair and a tan will almost automatically be considered a beauty or 'bombshell', even if her face is plain or harsh/horsey. Especially in America.

Jenny Brunt is THE Supermodel above all!

Linda is a Dallas LEGEND!!!!!!

Gisele. Ugh.

Linda as THE model for NorthPark Center in DALLAS!

R41 Klum was never a "supermodel" she was a working model. Not coveted for high fashion or anywhere, really.

I always thought Helena Christensen, though stunning, was spooky- and old-looking.

Horsey, wide-nosed Gisele Bundchen is my pick for #1 overrated model.

Ines de la fressange. Would be nothing without her heritage.

Stella Tennant. Hard lesbian look. Karl had the most terrible taste in models.

R49 Inès was a designer's muse. Sure she modeled but she was not a "supermodel".

R51 Any, she got way more visibility than she deserved.

Let’s continue with Karl‘s male muses. Brad Kroenig is just an AWG.

And of course glorified hooker Baptiste G.

I thought Karl made Kristen Stewart look very fashionable and sometimes chic and sometimes glamorous.

Julien Hedquist is perfection, especially at Gap for Holiday 2002!

Julien Hedquist was never overrated, especially not at Holiday 2002 at GAP!

r56 Get lost you sick motherfucker.

Yeah, whatever, R47. The point is, Klum is a woman with only slightly above average looks who, to my complete bewilderment, became rich and famous based on said looks. If you get paid millions for posing for photos or strutting down a runway (be in in lingerie or so-called 'high fashion'), you should have something that makes you stand out. Either beauty or that quality that makes it impossible not to look at you, even though you're technically far from perfect (imo, Gisele had it in her early days).

Klum said she was a supermodel but she wasn't. When she got famous in the USA, Europe scratched their head, WHO? You are merely elaborating why she wasn't. The rest was marketing and ambition. I have to hand it to her for making herself a huge brand based on a false claim. And at least she did model, and wasn't just a whore.

I never got the big deal about Jenny Gardener

R56 In 2002 Julien was well on his way to being an out of control drug addict and alcoholic. Happy Holidays 2002 GAPPLAYSGUY. Fun times!!!!!!!!!!

Cindy Crawford...I never felt she was up on the same rung as Linda, Christie and Naomi

R62 and Cindy wasn't. She didn't have the universal runway clout of those three.

I’ve never been able to look at Gia without feeling grossed out knowing that her skin literally melted off of her back on her death bed.

Klum is a household name. She’s a supermodel

Gia was gorgeous. Pity she threw it all away.

Overhyped and overrated for me are Christy Turlington and Christie Brinkley. Turlington is unique looking but not stunning...I totally don’t get it...and Naomi goes on and on about Turlington’s beauty. Brinkley had an ok to pretty face and very very beautiful hair that’s all. She should have been a model for hair care products only.

^^ oh and Gisele Bundchen..nice legs and body that’s all

Lick my ass. Supermodel means international fame and fortune based on MODELING. Klum is a household name by being a television and media celebrity. She did model. She was never a top model, let alone a supermodel. But, you do you, plebe.

Klum was a SUPERmodel

Name recognition doesn’t denote supermodel status, R65.

It’s that attitude that allowed those trolls spawned by Yolanda “Lyme & Lemons” Hadid and Nasal Kollapse Kris to claim supermodel status.

I do believe the ignorance and stupidity that led people to declare Trump was a great businessman and billionaire, because he was a household name and said he was business mogul, is the same stupidity and ignorance that can lead someone to believe that Heidi Klum is or was a supermodel.

Heidi Klum was one of the top paid models for years, for her modeling, before Reality TV.

I would agree that Klum was a top glamour model, with some success as a fashion model. I will agree that some Victoria's Secret glamour models became supermodels. Please remember that Klum was quickly hosting Victoria's Secret, rather than being THE model star of Victoria's Secret. I like Heidi Klum by the way, but I would hardly say she was overhyped and overrated as a supermodel because she never was one. She was something else.

Elle Macpherson. Never understood it.

Not true, R73. R65 & R70: Heidi Klum was not considered a true supermodel in the 90s because she wasn't a top [bold]fashion[/bold] model. It's fashon modeling that counted most. It's somewhat changed now, but for the longest time modeling definitely had a hierarchy. Fashion modeling was considered the top tier, followed by commercial and catalogue modeling. Near the bottom was lingerie/glamour modeling. The very bottom was probably Playboy/men's magazine cheesecake modeling.

Klum did some TV commercials during the 90s. I think one of them was for Pantene or Suave(?) She was never in-demand by high fashion designers. She wasn't a presence on catwalks for ready-to-wear or haute couture. She made her name doing Victoria's Secret in the 2000s. Her career wasn't like Gisele's or Naomi's or Yasmeen's, who did both VS and prestige work like haute couture fashion shows. VS and Project Runway (reality show fame) made Klum a household name and then the media (not the fashion industry) called her a supermodel, a term which has become meaningless.

Linda had a weird nose..I liked Patti Hansen

Angelina Jolie looked nothing like Gia

To clarify, R73: Klum made bank with Victoria's Secret in the late 90s/early 2000s, but she wasn't making as much as the top fashion models. Those women had more diversified work. Klum did a few commercials, then VS, then Project Runway Supermodels were paid 5 figures for each runway show (they could do 5 shows in one day) and also had very lucrative contracts as spokesmodels for Revlon, Maybelline Cover Girl, Estee Lauder, as well as campaigns for designer perfumes and luxury accessories.

Klum was making millions a year.

Gia Carangi is another story i am surprised hasn’t been Turned into a mini-series or Docu-series

R80: And real supermodels like Cindy Crawford, Christy Turlington, and (overrated) Gisele Bundchen made millions more.

Brinkley was the girl every guy wanted to F. Lots still do. She was never a runway girl. Just the gorgeous girl next door....who of course never lived next door. Vacation cemented her place at the summer blond.

Blonde. She’s a woman.

And everyone was obsessed with her. My mom still goes on and on about how beautiful she is.

I had a friend in college who went to high school with Niki Taylor, and he said she was dead-ordinary looking in person. You'd never in a million years guess she was a model.

Going back a little, I never understood the big deal about Marisa Berenson. She had a very 'in' figure for the early 70s, but her face is rather horsey IMHO, and she had a pug nose. She looks like a pretty secretary.

Marisa was a prettier version of her famous designer grandmother, Elsa Schiaparelli.

Klimt looked better as a brunette..her natural..same with Kelly ripa

Lily Cole. A face like a creepy Victorian doll. A face only Tim Burton could love.

Thread closed!

Never got Stella Tennant. Looks like a mean lesbian high school coach.

I agree that Cole never made any sense as a supermodel. Without the professional make-up and lighting, she looks like she should be working the register at Tesco.

R81 she has a rodent mouth.

R91 ^

Some of the models (Brinkley, Tyra Banks) had really good bodies (flat stomach, etc.). I would say they were a different breed of model.

I'm surprised by the lack of symmetry on Cole- like Kelly Rohrbach's mouth. IMO, facial symmetry is non-negotiable for modeling.

Brinkley and Banks were more swimsuit/commercial models than high fashion models.

Naomi was awful to Tyra in the 90s. She treated her like pure shit and bullied her when Tyra was starting to gain momentum

Banks did do high fashion also. She walked many runways. She is just better known for her commercial work

[quote]Some of the models (Brinkley, Tyra Banks) had really good bodies (flat stomach, etc.). I would say they were a different breed of model.

Elle Macpherson was literally nicknamed "The Body" among her peers in the industry. That's a good thing, because her face looks like Caitlyn Jenner's.

The one's who had quirky facial features, like Linda Evangelista, for example...seemed to succeed at high fashion because they could pull off a variety of different looks.

Isnt Elle Magazine literally named after Elle Macpherson?

The infamous Gia 20/20 special where she speaks about being clean despite it being obvious she isn’t even clean there.

You can see the sadness in her eyes. It’s very very sad.

This was during her “comeback”, which she fucked up BIG TIME

I am finally watching the Gia movie, and the completely gloss over her being a prostitute in Atlantic City before she died.

I'm taking about the ladies who walked the runways and were used in high fashion magazines.....not those who posed for Vickies Secret or Sports Illustrated...those models were NEVER super models!

R104 some did it all.

R90 - interesting though. My totally straight father who always liked curvy women and a bit of extra weight on women once remarked a profile picture of Stella and said she had a "very refined, regularly proportioned face...very distinguished". He was an engineer by trade but his parents were in the arts and he was a painter and his hobby was art and history. He had a far better eye for detail and aesthetics than I do. My mom, who studied art history, agreed.

YAWN!

Anyone who says Gia was nothing special was blind and never saw her in motion. She was striking! Also magnetic. You eyes naturally latched onto her.

Not only a gorgeous face but a beautiful body! Tall, lean, yet had curves. Very beautiful woman. A lot more gentle and feminine than she’s usually portrayed as since her death.

Watch Francesco Scavullo photograph her in this special made of him. She was the model he wanted to photograph while his “film” was being shot. This was 1979. She was absolutely DIVINE. No one looked like her back then. She was one of a kind, in a sea of blonde blue eyed models.

Compare Kendall Jenner to Shalom Harlow. I could stare at pictures of Shalom for hours (and I have). She also looked different in every shoot, on every cover. One of the most versatile models ever! She's also still exquisitely, naturally beautiful to this day, unlike Stephanie Seymour or Carla Bruni or Kate Moss, or...you get the idea. The only person that is in the same league in terms of aging beautifully, would be someone like Isabella Rossallini.

I recently watched "Catwalk," a documentary about the 90s models. Featuring Christy Turlington. A couple of models in the Pantheon were left out, i.e., Linda Evangelista.

You guys / girls might like to watch it.

R107, I actually think she looks adorable in that shot. She was more interesting looking before the nose job and the lip implants

One of those Hadid girls...the ugly one. I don't know their names.

I get that people know Tyra most for Victoria’s Secret and Commercial Modeling (because that is what made her most famous), but she very much was a Runway model the first few years of her modeling career.

Here is CNN doing a segment on Tyra back in 1992, when she was only 19. They were speaking about how her Catwalk and Runway presence were making her an international star. But DL will say she only worked for VS and Sports Illustrated. A blatant lie

I thought Vendela was kind of bland looking

Klum and Bunchden do not belong in this thread. They were not and are not HIGH FASHION MODELS OF THE 1990’s. Those that are of the delusion that these girls were, need to move on.

Bundchen was absolutely high fashion, with multiple Vogue covers. Klum wasn't.

BTW, like Klum better with her natural brown hair

R101: No. Where did you get that idea? Elle magazine started in 1945. Elle Macpherson, born in 1964, was named Eleanor by her parents.

I always thought Elle's mannish wide shoulders made her head look rather small. And she was famous for being a commercial swimsuit model, not a top fashion model.

Elle did it all

R115: Vendela had that square-jawed/masculinized bone structure the fashion industry loves in female models (the androgyny trend that never went away), but she had no charisma.

I still don’t know how I feel about Twiggy. A part of me finds her look fascinating while another part finds her too odd.

R114 she did high fashion and was especially very successful when she first went to Paris booking literally almost every designer. She was an overnight success. Unfortunately 2 things happened to end that; 1. Her booty became to thicc and 2. Naomi Campbell, well actually the racist industry that insisted that there could be only 1 black supermodel.

R122 oh I know she did high fashion. She did everything. I was a huge fan back in the 90s. She had a massive presence and always commanded the runway. I get annoyed at DLers always claiming she only ever did VS and Sports Illustrated, therefore she isn’t a Supermodel, when in reality she was a High Fashion Model and Runway Darling long before she joined Victoria’s Secret or did Sports Illustrated.

But Naomi didn’t help matters. She really was a bitch to Tyra.

Elle had the perfect 80s body, more straight up and down.

I've never understood the whole Christie Brinkley phenomenon. Everything about her screams "basic". Nothing striking or remotely sensual about her.

I'll add on Kendall Jenner for the same reasons. Jenner has one of those faces that you forget a second after seeing it. Brinkley and Jenner both resemble one of those composite photos of what a scientifically attractive person is supposed to look like. Technically symmetrical but lacking in something vital.

Miranda Kerr owns this thread. She was huge a few years back when infantile faces were in vogue. At one point it got so bad that half the runway models looked like ten year olds with some form of genetic gigantism. Something about an adult with the face of a fetus is just viscerally unnerving to me. I half expect to see her being cradled on Instagram by a distraught Chrissy Teigen.

Kendall Jenner has had some really good, natural-looking plastic surgery. She does look like a model to me. However, there is no emotion in her face and eyes, very flat-looking.

[quote] I've never understood the whole Christie Brinkley phenomenon. Everything about her screams "basic". Nothing striking or remotely sensual about her.

R125, agree. She was more girl-next-door with sexy body. Now, she still looks good. She seems kind of gold-digger-ish to me.

I find Brinkley more beautiful now than then.

Entirely too much has been made of Gia Carangi. She was never a "super model." She had a very brief modeling career. She was kind of a novelty in her time, a dusky skinned, brown eyed brunette in contrast to all those pale skinned blondes. She also had a dark, intense quality about her that made her photos interesting. She was in demand for a short time. But she soon imploded, immediately becoming a hard core drug addict and getting AIDs and dying at age 26.

Although there was nothing interesting about her at all except her looks people seem to be fascinated by her. She had that Marilyn Monroe thing going: beautiful, sought after young woman who seemingly has everything but is desperately unhappy,mentally ill and addicted to drugs. People always puzzle over things like that. And the fact that she was a lesbian also added some spice to the story. I read that book about her, "Thing of Beauty" by Stephen Fried. You would think it would be an engrossing read but it was just very boring. Poor little Gia, constantly fucking up, that's all it amounted to. Some people think modeling contributed to her demise but that wasn't true. As someone said of her "she would have been a casualty in any life."

Gia was a Supermodel.

What Gia was is technically the exact definition of a “Supermodel”.

He did it ALL, in demand by every top designer and photographer overnight, and became a Household name. She covered magazines all over the world.

Had she lived longer she probably would have done reality TV or Hosted a show at some point in the 00s.

Had Gia gotten her shit together and lived, there would be no Supermodel named Cindy Crawford.

R126 All the women on my mother's side have faces like that, and it is freaky. At least they're all short.

R130 I think she was gorgeous, but, yeah, she would've self-destructed no matter what. Sorta like Brad Renfro.

Adriana Lima

I've lived in an area (~ 14th floor of a high rise bldg.) that was near an emergency hospital. I did get used to the ambulance / sirens noises. Not sure if the sound would've been worse if I had been living on the ground floor.

Ypir was so overrated

"He did it ALL, in demand by every top designer and photographer overnight, and became a Household name. She covered magazines all over the world.

Had she lived longer she probably would have done reality TV or Hosted a show at some point in the 00s."

I guess you mean "she" did it all. But she was far from a "supermodel." She had a brief period where she was in demand and that was IT. And she sure as hell was not a "household name." She got famous AFTER she died and became this ;pitiful tragic figure. But it's hard to feel sorry for her. She made her choices in life and they were all disastrous.

She would have "done reality Tv or Hosted a show?" Well, maybe she would have gone on some celebrity rehab show, but I doubt it. She wasn't interested in getting off drugs. And "Hosted a show?" HAHAHA! The poor girl couldn't even be counted on to show up for her modeling bookings, much less have been the host of a tv show.

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Gia 100% became a Household name while alive

Oh wow. She's before my time. But Cindy Crawford totally was Gia 2.0. R133 is right. There would have been no room for Cindy if Gia had lived.

R140 after Gia’s downfall they literally sought out a replacement for her, because she was making them So much money. She was on so many covers in such a short time because her issues sold.

Cindy said that when she was discovered and signed, she was brought to everyone who ever worked with Gia (who was now dead) and they automatically wanted to work with her. She didn’t go through the casting hell of most models, Gia literally paved her way to each photographer and designer etc.

Model Cindy Crawford, who rose to prominence the year Carangi died, was referred to as "Baby Gia" due to her resemblance to Carangi. Crawford later recalled, "My agents took me to all the photographers who liked Gia: Albert Watson, Francesco Scavullo, Bill King. Everyone loved her look so much that they gladly saw me."

R139 During that time Cheryl tiegs and Christie Brinkley were household names because they went into other ventures besides modeling. The ones who stuck with high fashion modeling weren’t household names names. Elle, Kathy Ireland, Cindy Crawford, Paulina, Tyra banks and Heidi Klum straddled both fashion and more commercial modeling for awhile until they branched out and became more of a brand. Tyras career really didn’t take off until the mid 90s with the Nike commercial then the VS and SI photo shoots.

Klum has some big high fashion covers before she broke out, but she also broke out when models were being used less and less for magazine covers and were being replaced with celebrities in the late 90s and quickly transitioned into being more of a brand.

Gia wasn’t a novelty and it’s ridiculous to say she was. Janice Dickinson, Andie McDowell, Barbara minty, and Esme were all successful during that time and had darker features.

"Gia 100% became a Household name while alive."

In your mind, perhaps. Who are you, her crazy mother?

" There would have been no room for Cindy if Gia had lived."

Oh, please. First of all, if Carangi had lived her modeling career would still have been over. She was a total fuck up; and she was losing her looks rapidly due to drug use. Cindy Crawford, who had a similar look, would have wiped her off the map. Not only was she great to look at, she was completely professional. Poor Gia would have been out on her ass.

Shelly Hack

I never understood the appeal of Christy Turlington. She has a face like a bird.

I never understood why Kate Moss was such a big deal either. She had an unhealthy look about her. But "heroin chic" was in then, and I guess she fit the bill when it came to that.

Models were more symmetrical in the past when it was photographers who choose who became supermodels. They had a wide genetic pool to choose from and were not forced to choose someone who's parents possessed 'superior' genes. Those 60s-80s girls were just lucky genetic freaks.

Kendall may be a pretty girl, but look closely at her bone structure and she's a dog compared to someone like Gia, who had no surgery yet was as stunning at five o'clock in the morning as she was eight hours into a modelling shoot.

Also, Twiggy, she had no surgery yet the left and right sides of her face are nearly exactly symmetrical when you compare side by side, almost no differentiation.

Gigi

Hailey Baldwin

Cindy Crawford

Gisele

"Symmetry" is overrated. You can be 600 pounds, bald, have a face full of cystic acne and still be "symmetrical"

Bella is actually closer to the neater form of the old supermodels, yet her symmetry was something Daddy paid for and not what nature had intended.

[quote]"Symmetry" is overrated. You can be 600 pounds, bald, have a face full of cystic acne and still be "symmetrical"

Babies are naturally more symmetrical, as it's closer to the perfection as nature intended and has as much to do with bone structure, as clear skin and overall fitness. If she is as diseased and unhealthy as you suggest then she will be anything but "symmetrical"

I don't understand the exercise. Without annotation, it's unclear. Are you saying that everyone you just posted is an example of symmetricality? Or are we supposed to decide for ourselves?

I know I'm in the minority, but I think Bella Hadid is gorgeous. She reminds me of some of the quirkier the models of the 90s: Shalom Harlow, Amber Valetta, Carla Bruni. She unfortunately lacks the personality of those women. She has zero personality.

I was around at the time and don't remember hearing about Gia until that book came out, though there were pictures of her. She wasn't a name that people outside the industry talked about. Christie Brinkley was--she was huge and she got some major commercial contracts--she had that California Girl thing going.

Some of the others--Elle McPherson was one of the big SI swimsuit models, great body and not afraid to show it--all of it--so big straight guy following that helped boost her name recognition. Not a beautiful/striking face, just kind of pretty.

I think I read here that Giselle Bundchen had one of the best backs in the business--she also moved well, so she takes a great fashion pix.

Kate Moss was in the right place at the right time--great cheekbones, but mostly just a total contrast to the Amazonian supermodels--she wore clothes differently as a result and the fashion world loved that. Also a good sense of personal style and, unlike a lot of them, gave almost no interviews, so she retained a bit of mystery that gave her some range as a model in editorial work.

I was once told Christie Turlington was one of those rare models who could be shot straight on.

Janet Dickinson wasn't the big name she retroactively pretends to have been. It's funny, Paulina Porizkova was huge for a few years, but she's not talked about the same way--probably because she famously talked about how boring modeling was, but her success was part of the reason other models were going out for lip injections and boob jobs. You look back and she had it all--SI and Vogue covers, big make-up contract. Super-successful for a time.

Nadja Auermann was a goddess.

[quote]I had a friend in college who went to high school with Niki Taylor, and he said she was dead-ordinary looking in person. You'd never in a million years guess she was a model.

She starved herself to look like a model.

Christy has an obvious nose job. Not a natural beauty.

Cindy was absolutely breathtaking in her prime. She blew Gia away.

[quote]Elle Macpherson. Never understood it.

She was never really part of that group because she could make the other supermodels, no matter how tall and thin look like dumpy chicklets in comparison. Her body was spectacular, with a pretty enough face that could look fresh and vital with not a lot of effort. Bland personality though

R126 you described that perfectly — that look is so unnerving to me. I’m not a fan of the square jawed masculine Stella Tennant look the modeling industry loves either (soft featured women are just so much prettier imo), but at least it doesn’t freak me the fuck out.

I also posted above about Nadja Auermann. She had the longest legs.

My favourites are Bridget Hall, Nadja, Kristin Holby, and the most divine model who ever lived, Jean Shrimpton.

I see it now r163.

Claudia Schiffer.

Elle Macpherson was the original TAB Cola girl in Australia, that was her first modelling assignment, filmed when she was 17.

When she turned up the director was not impressed as he thought of her as ordinary looking, she also had spotty teenage skin and was a little unkept. It helped tremendously she had a freakishly great body, and also a great smile. The video caused a sensation everywhere. She never had any surgery, except maybe the tiniest refinement to the tip of her nose.

Elle McPherson was commercial, swimsuits, she wasn't really high fashion, which is what supermodel refers to.

Gia was a little before the actual supermodel era, she was in fact dead when it started.

R133, Gia was shortish and didn't have the personality. She wasn't much on the runway and her neck was too short. She was also older than Cindy.

The point about the 90s supermodels - which is what is really meant by supermodel - is that they were (and still are) genuine friends and part of a group that worked together and helped create the "supermodel era". The era really opened with Peter Lindbergh's British Vogue cover of Cindy, Christy, Linda, Naomi and Tatiana. George Michael then used them in his Freedom video. Them being a group was the point, supermodels were part of a cultural moment, it wasn't just about an individual model getting the most Vogue covers. It also required a certain type of designer that operated in that kind of mindset and designed for that kind of woman, e.g. Gianni Versace.

There are a lot of factors that came together to create that era, which would be hard to replicate now and would have been difficult before.

I never understood the appeal of Cindy Crawford, too ordinary, too bland, too boring.

Stella Tennant, Evangelista (although I don't think she was beautiful) was probably the most talented supermodel ever, Helena Christensen - very sensual and erotic, Auermann was a great runway model and had an amazing body and face, but was not that great in photo shoots.

Another one for Kathy Ireland but she was really just a swimsuit model.

Did Cindy have a nose job?

Elle started out doing swimsuit and commercial modeling but in the 90s she branched out into Haute couture for several years (she had a very elegant walk) and landed several Vogue covers in most markets. Elle was an original partner in the ill-fated Fashion Cafe business chain, along with other supermodels Naomi Campbell, Claudia Schiffer, and Christy Turlington.

Kylie Jenner, Gigi Hadid, and the rest of the current crop of supermodels who look like slightly pretty, wealthy suburban girls "discovered" at a Calabasas shopping mall and pushed into the spotlight.

THREAD CLOSED.

Jerry Hall!

Claudia Schiffer. Never understood the hype.

R175 I totally get Schiffer. If I were a straight guy, I’d be into her, with her feline features, cheekbones, curves and luscious blond hair. She’s feminine, unlike Tennant, Lily Cole, the Jenner girl, or Kristin McEnamy. I’d also be into Tatiana Paris and the one married John Cougar Mellencamp (yes I am too lazy to look up her name).

Kate Moss I don’t get, either.

Elle Macpherson had a pretty face! You guys are crazy.

I have to say, I do like Miranda Kerr. I can see the appeal. Her accent helps.

*Tatiana Patiz

Elaine Irwin, she was the one married to Mellencamp.

Gia Carangi was deeply damaged by her childhood. Her mom walked out on the family and Gia's father left his kids to do pretty much as they pleased. She was experimenting with drugs and sex at a very young age. If she hadn't become a model, she still would have become a junkie and died of AIDS. Her pretty face and the fame it brought her was all that set her apart from the other street kids with tragic ends.

R169 Great breakdown of that era! The Supermodels weren't exactly "mean girls" per se, but they were a clique for sure. It wasn't just about individual models becoming global sensations in proximity to one another.

Another thing about the supermodels that is striking to me now, is how physically LARGE they were. Those gals were TALL!!! They may have been in model shape but their actual bones were larger. And a lot of the sexier ones actually had some meat on their bones. They had so much presence, so much personality. They had actual real tits. They looked and radiated energy like goddesses! They exuded class, vitality, wit, brains, and sex appeal.

We could not have had the Supermodels without Regan and the yuppies and the conspicuous consumption of the 80s, which came to its full flowering in the 90s. The 90s was a wildly decadent era. The world had a real lust for couture and "labels, labels, labels." Remember Edina Monsoon in "Ab Fab" yelling "It's LACROIX, sweetie-darling! LACROIX!"? I miss those days.

Looking back, it almost felt innocent. Not overtly sexual and trashy like culture is today. There were still lots of drugs, but somehow they connoted wealth and connections and privilege and sex, it a cultural sense. These days when you here about someone on drugs, you visualize a skinny young guy in a wife-beater smoking meth in a trailer with his toothless step-uncle.

Back then it was all about raves, and all the anthemic pop music of that era. Lots of fun, lots of flash. It was about cosmopolitan life: shopping in the city; flying; going to parties; schmoozing at art openings and fashion shows--a glass of champagne always in hand.

Gia was making $10k a minute per shoot/runway at her peak.

If any of you dis Ypir, I riot.

Evangelista was just a great model...whether you liked her feature or not, she was great in front of the camera.

Moss had really strong features but she was too short for runway but she was a star so they used her.

Kristin McNemany was a good model too, kind of weird looking but she had talent. And it is a talent when you look at the faces today who the fuck even comes to mind??

I always thought Laetitia Casta was prettier than Gisele

"They exuded class, vitality, wit, brains, and sex appeal."

You must not know much about Naomi Campbell or Kate Moss. Classy, they're not. This is another example of "Everything was better in MY day" syndrome that is pretty prevalent here.

[quote] Claudia Schiffer. Never understood the hype.

CS was made up to look like Brigitte Bardot in the Guess jeans ads. That made her popularity explode.

Guess also did amazing things with Anna Nicole Smith, who otherwise looked like what she was: a white trash stripper with a pretty face.

I never understood Lauren Hutton. She seems like she would be exactly like jer character in American Gigolo. Exactly.

IMO, Lauren Hutton always had a womanly face rather than a girlish face. She looks like she has cheek implants at R188.

This listicle includes many of the names battered about in this thread. I remember a movie with Shalom Harlow, and three other models, was stupid but funny fluff (Picture Perfect).

I also dint think that enough hype gets to Kevyn Aucoin for transforming these women.

Also dont know why George Michaels video for Too Funky is NEVER mentioned!

I found Elle McPherson very beautiful when she was on Friends.

OP don’t you ever disrespect Gia!

Gia was 😍😍😍

R185 I did not include Kate Moss. She came after, with the heroin junkie look. If I didn't say "gee thanks, Kate Moss" at the end of my bit about the junkie look that overtook the Supermodel heyday, I meant to.

As for Naomi, she DID exude wit, vitality, sex appeal, and a goddess energy. Not brains. And she just was a massive, massive spoiled bitch. As was Linda. But it doesn't negate the fact that they were more glamorous and husky-sexy than the models that came after them.

And yeah, my era was peak-supermodel, and I loved it. It wasn't all woke and self-conscious. People weren't so guilt-ridden and fearful. People still danced, people still flirted, and there was still risk and exhilaration. No one was lounging around smacked out on heroin in the spreads. No one was shouting "ME TOO!" if someone touched you flirtatiously at the bar. It was, god forbid... fun.

R194 are you speaking of the late 80's early 90's?

R195 My peak Vogue-reading years were my first and second years of college, which were 1991-93.

R194, not sure what world you're living in

I was around in the 90s and it was far from perfect. Most people still hated gays. But maybe that's a good thing to you, since your views seem pretty reactionary. Rape still happened, assault still happened. The country had a higher crime rate than it does now. People still dance, people still flirt (although maybe they don't flirt with elderly Republicans like you...)

R197 at this given point in time there is no dancing, no real socializing with anyone whose recent contact history isn't immediately known to you because of covid. It's fun to look back at more tangible indulgence right now.

R198, tons of people are breaking lockdown orders to have parties. So, no, it didn't stop.

I was a child in the 90s in a major city, and even I have nostalgia for the sexy, heady glamour of the dance music, high fashion, supermodel era- a sort of mix of graphic art and designer drugs and chic black and white and gold. I can't describe it, but I saw it in magazines, expensive boutiques at my mom's knees and in the music from my friend's cooler, younger parents.

Probably a lot of heroin in retrospect, but it was just sharper.

R180 = Donatella Versace's collapsed nose

R190 yikes, Christy Turlington’s nose looks fake.

Naomi Campbell. Ugly inside and out.

It was indeed a heady era..the last time we actually had some creativity and uniqueness. Everything after 1993 kind of sucked especially with the advent of grunge

The world is still reeling from the advent of the internet. It makes the invention of the printing press look like nothing by comparison, and THAT rocked everyone's world in the 1500s. I'm guessing it will take us at least 50 years to get a handle on the web, and we're only 25 years in.

Carangi peaked at 18/19. The hard living got her fast. If she'd lived, her modeling days would still have been over.

If they ever make another Gia biopic, they ought to test Kaia Gerber for it. She has more of Gia's dark vibe than Cindy ever did.

R207 many have said Kaia resembles Gia more than her mom

[quote]Everything after 1993 kind of sucked especially with the advent of grunge

Yes, Courtney Love and Heroin Chic were especially hot in 1993. The first two years of the Nineties started out very clean-cut and understated in comparison, after that, much more trashy. Luckily the main core of supermodels was too diverse to let heroin chic define them for very long. Here: Nadja, Christy, Claudia, Cindy, Stephanie.

R197 This isn't a thread about rape, politics, economics, race, or the plight of gays. It's a thread about fucking supermodels. That's what's happening on this particular thread. And with that in mind, I was writing and musing on culture through that lens.

If you want to talk about "The Issues" happening in the 90s, I'm happy to do that on a different thread.

This one is about models.

I've never heard of Garangi outside of DL. She's never brought up in supermodel discussions.

Is she just DL famous?

R209 Wow look at Cindy's legs in that photo! Muscular and strong. Not scrawny with that huge thigh gap that is so coveted today. Those were real women.

R211 no. If that were the case a very successful movie wouldn’t have been made about her

kate moss

R108 Thank you for posting that film! I love the vibe of 70s documentaries. That background music!

ps Who is narrating? It sounds so much like Dick Cavett, but it probably isn't.

Kate Moss. I just don’t get how she became a model.

^She had wonky eyes and bad teeth too. It's a mystery how she ever got any kind of modeling work, let alone supermodel level.

I was very young in 1986 but still I remember Gia's death and the shockwaves it sent around the planet.

There was just a sense of fear, a kind of unbeliveable factor that it had touched one of the untouchables.

We'd seen Rock Hudson and a few others die from AIDS, and Gia was not mega-famous but a well known identity. That it cut down a young woman in her prime; a seemingly healthy and very attractive woman was just too shocking at for words.

Gia could glam it up. She was a fantastic-looking, feminine model. But off the clock, she was quite butch. She was NOT a lipstick lesbian. She was manly and I don't think she gave a shit about fashion. That's my take, from looking at candid, not-styled photos of her. And photos of her with her girlfriends.

Towards the end of her life, Gia began to develop an interest in photography. I don't know if she was any good, but if she had been and lived, it's nice to think she could have become another Annie Leibovitz.

Jolie was so wrong in Gia. She was striking, and had the height but her features were all wrong, especially her nose and eyes.

R212 actually I was going to say the opposite — they’re thin but not particularly muscular at all. They’re actually quite soft and pretty darn normal looking.

And she was 100 times prettier than Gia ever was. She could also speak in full sentences which had its own appeal.

How did she get the AIDS, from sharing needles?

Gia had an edge to her, Cindy was more homely and boring. She covered the frau's side of the fashion industry.

Since she wasn't much into heterosex, it probably was the heroin addiction that gave her AIDS. She was a regular in the downtown shooting galleries once she really started to go out of control in 1980 (after the death of her mentor Wilhemina). Exactly the wrong time and place to be an intravenous drug addict.

If you look at her career, all the best shots are from mid-1978 to mid-1980. After that, the drug habit spiraled and her career went right down the drain. She was really only hot for a very short period, even by model standards. Most successful models have a 7-10 year run. With Gia, it was more like 2 years.

"I was very young in 1986 but still I remember Gia's death and the shockwaves it sent around the planet."

"Shockwaves it sent around the planet?!" HAHAHAHA! That's funny as hell. Her death went pretty much unnoticed, as I recall. Of course it would be. She was out of the modeling scene for quite a while by the time of her death. This is from "Thing of Beauty" by Stephen Fried:

At the time of Gia's death, no obituaries ever appeared in major newspapers, magazines, or trade publications. Only a small death notice appeared in The Philadelphia Inquirer. She would never been mentioned in any of the myriad articles about AIDS in the fashion industry.

"You know, this will sound awful," recalled one hairstylist, "but I remember when her father called me and said she died, I wondered why he called me. He said, "I know you were very good friends with my daughter." I would have been awful for me to deny it, wouldn't it?"

"i remember asking a photographer, "Where is this Gia, whatever happened with her?" recalled German Vogue fashion editor Suzanne Kolmel. He said "You know that she DIED. And at the end, she sold PIZZA.

So much for the "shockwaves it sent around the planet." Gia Carangi's funeral was held at a small funeral home in suburban Philadelphia. Nobody from the fashion world attended or sent flowers, but weeks later a Mass card arrived from Francesco Scavullo.

"Gia began to develop an interest in photography. I don't know if she was any good, but if she had been and lived, it's nice to think she could have become another Annie Leibovitz."

Nah, that never would have happened. Gia Carangi had beauty, but not much else; no education, no ambition, no work ethic, no ability to concentrate, no family support system. She was really a ditz who lucked out into a modeling career and used her money to wallow in drugs. She was truly doomed.

I don’t know, r226, I remember when she died, and being shocked. But I’m from Philly, so it definitely got more play here. I was about the same age as her, and also had friends who knew her pretty well when she was growing up. She was definitely a free spirit.

She was 21 when she left NYC to go home and try to kick heroin. Her comeback attempt at modeling was over by 1983. If she hadn't gotten sick, she might have eventually gotten off the drugs and done something else with herself. Gotten an education, a steady girlfriend, something. Bad fucking timing to start shooting heroin in downtown NYC in 1980.

TYRA BANKS!!!! Ew, ew, ew.

I was totally baffled by her emergence in the world of modelling in the early 90s. She's an oversized troll doll!

Tatjana patitz never exploded into the zeitgeist like the others did after the vogue cover came out.

Lena kansbod and dayle Haddon were able to balance high fashion and more commercial modeling in the 70s. Carol alt did for a bit in the early 80s but tilted towards more commercial modeling.

So few black models got the coveted scavullo cosmo covers. I think from the 70s to the 90s less than 10 black women made the cover.

Avedon loved photographing Shari belafonte for a time.

I don't think Gia was so well-known on the west coast US as on the east coast.

R226 Well, I don't live anywhere near America, and can clearly remember her death being a big deal on the news one night (one of my parents gasped when they heard it was AIDS). Also, some of the little girls who read teen magazines were quite upset about it the next day at school. She may not have had the longest or most magnificent career but she did manage to touch quite a few people.

I was in high school in 1986 in Chicago and don't remember hearing about her until the movie came out.

Good list, have a look.

Karlie Kloss is ridiculously overhyped.

She might pose and walk well, but that face is barely average. I've seen better-looking women at the mall. And that body: odd and malnourished. She is proof that the fashion industry is an oligarchy. One or two powerful people champion weirdos like her as some sort of exceptional muse, then all the industry sheeple fall in line and agree.

She and Taylor Swift could be sisters. No wonder they like hanging out so much--total narcissism.

Karlee Kloss has the longest waist, she looks like a cross between Yosemite Sam and a leafless tree.

Gia was very well known. I’m sick of the rewriting of history on DL. It happens too often.

She was especially big in NYC/NJ/PA. There were Teens who idolized her in NYC.

This wasn’t just a runway model, this was a woman who covered every major magazine numerous times within just 2 years! And not just in the states, all over the world. And this wasn’t like now, this was when millions of people would buy magazines every month. Models were names back then.

Having a lot of covers and being famous in your home state and a couple of neighbouring states doesn't make a model a supermodel. There are plenty of working models today with many Vogue covers, 100s of 1000s of Instagram followers, large fanbases, walk the top shows and are in big campaigns that the average person has never heard of.

A supermodel is one who has huge fame beyond the high fashion fans who follow all the shows. I wouldn't class Kendall, Gigi, etc. as supermodels though because they were already celebrities before they got into modelling. I'm not a fan of Karlie Kloss, but she's probably the last of the models who became super-famous as a model, rather than a model who was already famous and that's how she got into modelling.

Cindy just posted on Instagram.

[quote] cindycrawford I’m excited to reunite with my friends to both celebrate and examine the way supermodels transcended the traditional perceptions and limits of modeling in the fashion industry through time. With the support of Imagine Documentaries and Academy Award-winning director Barbara Kopple, we plan to explore the dynamic personalities, and shifts in media and culture that helped shape and define this iconic era. "The Supermodels” coming to @AppleTV.

R240 again, you don’t work for every top photographer and designer, cover Vogue, Cosmo etc numerous times and aren’t a supermodel.

Karlie Kloss is a giant! She's 3 ft taller than tiny Christian Siriano on Project Runway.

"Gia was very well known. "

In some fashion circles, maybe. But other than that, no. Her death barely made a ripple, no matter how many of you silly things try to make it seem like she was a world-famous superstar model who everyone in the world knew about and that her death was a world shattering event.

Gia became better known after the biography Thing of Beauty came out in 1993 and much better known after the HBO biopic in 1998. Before that, she was a niche figure at best. When you think of the famous models of the late 70s, you think Cheryl Tiegs, Janice Dickinson, Jerry Hall, Patti Hansen, Beverly Johnson, etc. Gia didn't start showing up on 70s supermodels lists until after the movie came out. She was shunned in the last years of her life by people in the industry. Only Scavullo acknowledged her passing with a mass card sent to her family.

I can number the claims of “I was the world’s first supermodel” on the fingers one four hands.

Im excited for the Apple+ show on the Supermodels, makes me nostalgic for the early 90s

Then there are currently at least 50 working supermodels r242 because what you're describing is standard for a successful model in the industry today.

Whilst visiting Paris in the early 90s I happened upon a shoot featuring Naomi Campbell and a blonde supermodel-adjacent model whose name I've forgotten (Karen something?) on the street. Both looked positively otherworldly irl, extremely tall and thin to the point that they made me think of praying mantises (mantii?). Not ugly - up close enough to see their faces they were very beautiful - but there was nothing particularly sexy or feminine about either one. Borderline didn't look human.

Many years later saw Giselle Bundchen in person and her skin looked photoshopped it was so perfect. I've never, not once, seen anyone with skin that flawless. It was hard not to stare at her. Also, like the other two, incredibly thin and tall irl.

R249 Was it Karen Mulder?

Yes R250, that's exactly who it was.

Karen Mulder was one of the greats that doesn't get enough mention!

"On 10 December 2002, after suffering for years from chronic depression, Mulder went into a coma after she overdosed on sleeping pills in an apparent suicide attempt. She left no note."

WHOA! Never heard about this! She's okay now, thank goodness. She has a daughter and looks like a normal mom type now.

....

Loved Karen Mulder

There's a documentary from c. 1995 about 90s fashion, 90s models, 90s runway etc. It might be Unzipped, or Catwalk, but I 'm not sure. The director encouraged them to act bitchy and entitled, perhaps to make the doc look edgier, or play up the supermodel stereotype. Linda was the only one who really got it, so there are numerous scenes wheres she's whining and complaining while the other girls are in the background ignoring her.

THAT SNARKY SMUG LINDA EVANGELISTA !!!!!

SCORNED BY MANY.....

All of them really!

None of them are super. Not a single one. They should not be role models for young girls, instilling in so many of them the belief/expectation that getting ahead in the world relies on looks. TBH, it disgusts me that society does that to young girls. Sorry to be harsh, but it is what happens.

R257 R258 Totally agree

Anyone remember Marie Helvin?

R258, being a supermodel - or even just a great model - was never simply about "being beautiful", but also about being smart, independent, a businesswoman. That was why the new generation that was ushered in in the early 1990s were called supermodels, because they represented something more than just modelling.

A great model is not necessarily one who is beautiful but one who can evoke a feeling of beauty, style, dreams, a fantasy. It's about emoting, expression and playing characters.

Such bullshit.

They didn't call her Linda EVILangelista for nothing.

R260 - Sorry, but no. How could they 'evoke' anything without speaking or writing? Modeling is all about that exterior wrapping. So you think young girls should grow-up to be so-called 'confident' women with great hair who can pose the hell out of an IG posting, but who don't speak or write? If so, we're gonna end up with an army of 'super-model' women like this...

You're proving my point r262. Miss South Carolina is "pretty" but she's not a model, let alone a supermodel. A great model is not simply a good-looking woman dressed up in clothes and photographed. Great models evoke fantasy.

Let's get real. They're ALL completely overhyped and overrated. When it comes to making the world a better place, supermodels are about as useful as tits on a bull.

Thanks, R263. You're proving the point. Are we to believe that behind those faces in the link you provided there are high level machinations going on that will solve the world's problems? Come on, let's get serious, really.

Sometimes a good photo or video makes you think a model is prettier than she really is. Emily DiDonato is a good example. I found her insanely beautiful in the Armani ad, but I've seen other pictures and videos of her and, while she is pretty she's not that gorgeous.

But in this video...wow (and great music too)

r168 That has to be the cheesiest most godawful thing I've ever watched.

Yet another thread that makes me miss the 90's.

r207 Unfortunately she's built like Spongebob Squarepants.

[R14] If you don’t find Linda Evengalista beautiful, you’re not gay. She is a goddess.

R265, it's not the job of models to engineer high-level machinations to solve the world's problems. Their main job is to sell clothes, primarily high fashion in the case of supermodels and the top models. Fashion campaigns, shows, editorials, etc. aim not to solve the world's problems but to create images of fantasy and beauty, style, cool, chic. That does actually make the world a better place in that they create moments of beauty and pleasure, culture, things people can enjoy and in that respect make their lives happier.

Fashion does also reflect the society of its time, so in that way it's part of the general conversation, and it can also act as a vehicle for social messages. But the point of fashion is not to end poverty or dismantle racist structures, so if that's what you're demanding of it, it's not fashion that's failing but you.

Mit das Untier zu leben ist nichts einfach.

Es ist traurig, dass sie nicht hübsch ist und keine Ausstrahlung hat.

I like Heidi in spite of.... Heidi.

Every child of celebrity parents

While not a model, Timothee Chalamet is completely overhyped and overrated looks wise.

When I lived in New York I had a friend who was plugged into the 80s-90s party scene, out every night, always said Evangelista was the most beautiful famous person in real life that she’d ever seen.

Evangelista has one of those faces that are more interesting than beautiful. Her downward pointy hook nose kinda stops her from being really beautiful.

Tyra "Fat-Ass, No-Waist, Dumb & Clumsy" Banks

[quote]Her downward pointy hook nose kinda stops her from being really beautiful.

Actually, it stops her from being generic.

Time's a bitch

What is the movie about 90's Supermodels called? I've heard there is one coming out soon.

You can tell Evangelista is/was a heavy smoker. It always shows in the skin.

[quote] "As a great model once said: 'don't hate me, because I'm beautiful.'" "I don't hate you because you're beautiful; I hate you because you QUOTE GREAT MODELS!"

Emily DiDonato has a youtube channel and one of the videos is "what I eat in a day as a model". Her breakfast is oatmeal milk with coffe, lunch is one of those protein supplement shakes, and dinner is wild salmon with broccoli.

No wonder these women are miserable.