One-sided hate

My ex and I. he completely hates me and I have trouble remembering him at all.

Meghan loathes Kate. Kate not so much...

California and various inconsequential states and/or people triggered by it.

Kanye vs. Taylor

Trump vs. Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton

My apologies. Barack Obama

Rodney Bewes and James Bolam (probably better known to a UK audience). Bewes let slip to a journalist that Bolam's wife was pregnant - something which Bolam had told him in strict confidence. Bolam went on to be a fairly successful tv, stage, and radio actor, but Bewes didn't do nearly so well. For the next several decades, Bewes publicly talked about how his career had been destroyed by Bolam, who bore a grudge and had friends in high places.

The facts seem to be simply that Bewes was simply unlucky, and not a particularly strong actor. There was definitely a rift with Bolam, but Bolam seems simply to have just cut him out of his life and ignored him completely. And wisely, he never responded to Bewes public denouncements, no matter how unhinged they became.

It was all a bit sad and pathetic, really.

Steve Coogan & Rob Brydon.

Well, it’s a love-hate, really. Steve both detests and adores Rob at the same time, whilst Rob just loves Steve.

That nutjob Roseanne vs Valerie Jarrett

I gather it's unnecessary for me to spell it out.....

R8 what about Steve Coogan and Courtney Love? She hates him and has trashed him publicly, but he’s never uttered a word about her.

Marcia and Jan Brady.

R4 I'm pretty sure those two hate each other. Probably Taylor waste less time hating Kanye because she still sells music

Woody Allen and Ronan Farrow

Joan Rivers vs. Gillian Anderson

Joan Rivers vs. Kirsten Stewart

Joan Rivers vs. Jennifer Lawrence

Diana vs. Camilla

Madonna vs. Lady Gaga

bump

Chelsea Handler & Angelina Jolie.

Chelsea regularly trashed Angelina on her talk show. She even said shit about Angelina's children. Chelsea used to mock Angelina and Jennifer Aniston equally until Chelsea was represented by the same talent agent who represented Jennifer. The rumour was that she would could increase her profile by appearing to be "buddies"with Jennifer. In exchange, she would stop mocking Jennifer and increase her verbal attacks on Angelina. But Angelina never responded to these attacks; she never acknowledged Chelsea's existence.

Joan Rivers vs. everyone with more human empathy than she had (in other words, everyone who ever breathed).

I honestly think the hate between Olivia and Joan was mainly one way. I do think Olivia never forgave Joan for winning the Oscar and Joan mainly just found Olivia pompous and annoying. I think Livvie really did hate Joan and Josn mainly felt meh.

Olivia vs Joan was a pretty mutual hate.

R16 Well, Diana has reasons to hate Camila, i can't say the same the other way around

Gore Vidal -> Truman Capote. They were buds in the '40s, but I think it was just Gore buzzing around Truman hoping some of Truman's talent for prose would rub off on him (it didn't).

I bet Vidal had his minions terrorize Capote, because he ended-up an alcoholic, paranoid nervous wreck.

R3 When a an aquaintance from Colorado told me that there was a rivalry between his state and California, I told him nobody in CA cared or even knew about it. I told him he was welcome to think Colorado was better if it made him happy, but California is unbothered so stop wasting my time with this nonsense. It really triggered him, the poor dear.

Same with San Francisco v.s. Los Angeles. San Franciscans loathe L.A., while Los Angelenos think SF is a cute little town.

Rosie O’Donnell and everybody.

R23 Vidal tried to start beef with Anthony Burgess as well, and got no promotion. Burgess just laughed him off.

Sun-Yi and Mia Farrow.

Mia gave her everything she could ever have wanted and Sun-Yi destroyed Mia's life.

Screamo singer Ronnie Radke had a problem for years with his former friend/fuckbuddy/replacement in his band Escape The Fate, Craig Mabbitt. Dude used to heckle Craig at concerts, write obvious ‘fuck you’ songs about him, set fans on him him. It got ugly.

After a soul-searching jail stint, however, Ronnie eventually found it in his heart to forgive. The younger starry-eyed Craig had always idolised Ronnie, and it hurt him that after being so close they fell out over business matters for such a long time (it’s thought that Craig wrote the sad angsty ballad ‘Something’ for Ronnie - one lyric is literally ‘so can you forgive me?’).

Now I think about it, the whole thing was pretty melodramatic and kind of gay.

Screamo singer Ronnie Radke had a problem for years with his former friend/fuckbuddy/replacement in his band Escape The Fate, Craig Mabbitt. Dude used to heckle Craig at concerts, write obvious ‘fuck you’ songs about him, set fans on him him. It got ugly.

After a soul-searching jail stint, however, Ronnie eventually found it in his heart to forgive. The younger starry-eyed Craig had always idolised Ronnie, and it hurt him that after being so close they fell out over business matters for such a long time (it’s thought that Craig wrote the sad angsty ballad ‘Something’ for Ronnie - one lyric is literally ‘so can you forgive me?’).

Now I think about it, the whole thing was pretty melodramatic and kind of gay.

That's hilarious R7. Rodney Bewes was a very weak actor, while James Bolam was a very good actor with a lot of charisma. I bet the slip of the tongue wasn't the only reason for the rift, Bees was probably envious of Bolam from the beginning. He made The likely Lads a hit.

"while Los Angelenos think SF is a cute little town."

That they can't afford to live in.

All hate is one sided, because all hate begins with hating yourself.

Meanwhile, you're searching for someone to hate you back.

It's like love that way.

I miss working at the fortune cookie factory.

It always smelled so good there.

Howard Stern used to rag on Amanda Peet all the time for some reason. I couldn't understand why he cared so much about someone so insignificant.

Ellen's staff and Ellen.

[Quote] Woody Allen and Ronan Farrow

Who hates whom?

The President and the Duchess

The Duchess and DL.

Not sure it's one -sided R36 given she sends the Sussex Squad here to threaten us all with dire retribution.

It’s not JK Rowling, since the hate goes both ways there!

J Lo and Mariah.

Except JK Rowling is justified.

R32 it’s because she wouldn’t fuck him. That is textbook straight male bitterness.

G and me.

Madonna and Lady Gaga

Joan Fontaine vs Olivia de Havilland

After her second Oscar win Olivia didn't really think about Joan.

Me, I, Myself VS that butch lesbian actress who insists people compare her to me, takes all my hand me downs and seems obsessed with any genre I conquer. I mean it would be unfair for me to make any comment about her since I've never seen any of her movies but she seems very bland, homely and dykey.

R45, who dat??

Sandra Bullock

‘Devil’ Anse Hatfield, and Ran’l McCoy.

Ran’l hated Anse’s guts; thought him a cowardly sellout, and a deserter, and a law-dodger, as well as a backstabbing false friend only out for himself and his family rather than community or the cause.

Anse, by contrast, thought of Ran’l as a past person he once liked in spite of his poor business decisions, and who sadly couldn’t let go of PTSD and entitlement, became a touch envious, and then went a little nuts.

To resolve this conflict: a pig was stolen; an old lady went mad; a young love was thwarted; lawmen were bribed; a house burned down and killed its occupant; a bloody turf war raged, with fatal casualties; several other younger men were executed or manhunted, and; a baby needlessly died.

To this day, more than a hundred years on, Kentucky & West Virginia are still bitter.

Lindz LoHo vs Jennifer Lawrence - Lindsay is under some kind of impression that they are vying for the same roles and media attention. JLaw is like bitch please.

Hahahaha oh that's a good one R49. I can totally picture that. Not sure why Lindsey thinks she's still in the game. And I don't particularly even care for JLaw.

R49 Lohan also had a hateful fixation on ScarJo.

See, this is why I’d make a terrible celebrity. Not only would I snap at the first infringement of privacy or incorrect blind item, but I’m a natural grudgeholder and very touchy around people I don’t like. At the first glimmer of a potential feud with another star I didn’t like, I’d be leaping across a table and trying to choke a bitch, like Emile Hirsch did that one time.

Alyssa Milano and the human race

Joan & Bette. Joan tried to be friendly but Bette just continued to be cuntie and was full of rage. Joan took it all in her stride.

[quote] Chelsea Handler & Angelina Jolie.

Chelsea Handler "sticking up for" Jennifer Aniston made it seems as if JA had been talking about AJ to CH. I would've been pissed if I were JA. You're supposed to always appear unbothered, even if you're bothered.

R3 and R24, that can equally well be applied to DC vs. the provinces. Others get all worked up about Washington – including the hate-DC brigade at the DL. The people who live there … really don’t care. You want to hate them? OK. Whatever. Go away, we’re busy.

The champions and originators of this attitude are New Yorkers, who have absolutely no interest in whatever anyone else in America thinks of them, including people from LA and DC.

Gore Vidal used to call Tennessee Williams when Williams was really fucked up on booze and pills and impersonate Truman Capote. Gore would say nasty things to Tennessee in his Truman voice and Tennessee thought it was Truman.

Gore was a nasty old queen. He told that stupid story about being tossed out of the White House for years so he could get into books about Jackie O , and then sued Truman for telling it the wrong way.

People don't seem to understand the OP's excellent thread suggestion.

No surprise there.

I liked how Debbie Reynolds spent decades reviling (understandably) Liz Taylor for Liz's temporary borrow of Debbie's Eddie. "Temporary" meaning that Liz didn't want him and Deb didn't want him back. Debbie gasped, hissed, growled, gossiped and collected Liz's movie costumes (rather pathetically).

And Liz never looked back or cared.

Eventually Debbie gave up and found herself to be better off as a "friend" of Liz, who no doubt didn't care in the least either way. Here's Debbie's pathetic retelling of rapprochement:

"I sent a note to her room and she sent a note back to mine saying that we should have dinner and get this over with and have a good time," Debbie recalled. "The four of us ended up having dinner and it was wonderful. She'd moved along in her life and so had I. If your husband's going to leave you for anyone, it might as well be Elizabeth Taylor. She was beautiful, smart, and a very sexual woman and I was very different—not exactly a sex kitten. I told [Eddie] she'd throw him out eventually and that's exactly what happened. But he wasn't the brightest of men."

Debbie placed most of the blame on Eddie, anyway.

...where it belonged, R58.

Can you imagine two attractive, talented women fighting over Eddie Fisher?

Jesus.

Joan Rivers vs Victoria Principal

Khlobuchar and Pete

Nancy McKeon and Pamela Segall (Adlon)

Kid Rock and Taylor Swift

Bea Arthur's dislike of Betty White and Betty's "I don't know why...".

Kid Rock and Beyonce

Norm Macdonald and Craig Ferguson

[quote]Joan tried to be friendly but Bette just continued to be cuntie and was full of rage. Joan took it all in her stride

Not true at all.

Shambo Vs. Laura, Survivor: Samoa

“I never think about her” — Cardio on Chrissy Metz

R24, that sounds perfectly accurate from my experiences!

It's odd, but in terms of city rivalry, Londoners seems oddly obsessed with New York and hating it, while New Yorkers don't seem to think of London at all. Paris is the European point of contrast and most New Yorkers seem to think positively of Paris.

I believe that Ava Gardner absolutely loathed Lauren Bacall and Lauren simply found Ava annoying. Later they both appeared to reconcile somewhat and agree that Sinatra was a total shit to both of them.

Ava on Sinatra dating Mia Farrow: "Ha! I always knew Frank would finally go to bed with a boy."

No one in London even thinks about NY, what the hell?

Damn, Gore Vidal sure had a lot of time to waste. Who has the time and energy to prank call another person? As adults? Pathetic and sad.

David Letterman and Jay Leno

Vidal was a sad little man

R77, he certainly seemed bitter.

R74, there is not a single issue of a London newspaper, magazine or publication not full of ill-concealed hatred of New York; there are dozens of places boasting about New York style cocktails or steaks or whatever the fuck. There is no equivalent whatsoever in New York of London, outside a few select shoe stores and mens' tailors.

London was cool and glam to New Yorkers up through the 90s and perhaps the early teens, but I don't know that anyone here really thinks much about London over the past decade. I haven't visited since 2001, and I keep hearing how boring it's become (though many say the same about NYC).

The UK "ex-pat" scene in NYC (eg, those spots on Greenwich Ave like Tea & Sympathy, or Soho House) is mostly a corny joke to New Yorkers. But nobody is actively hating on London or Londoners.

Newsflash: cities and states aren't individual people.

They don't hate other cities and states. That's all FANTASY on your parts.

Japan and China

Lesbians hate gay men

Gay men never think of lesbians

[quote]Woody Allen and Ronan Farrow

Not accurate. There's a difference in tone, certainly, but they both hate each other, it's not one-sided. Ronan wrote a couple of op-ed pieces and released a statement after Moses said he was abused but Dylan was faking her abuse, while Woody does things like slam him in interviews for being a bad reporter, and trolls him by trying to get published by the same house Ronan is with.

R24, I had a history professor who, during a lecture, brought up Oklahoma's rivalry with Texas, and how Texas is like, "What's an Oklahoma?" That was 40+ years ago and I still smile when I think about it.

Ava probably never said that, R73. Michael Thornton claimed she did, but she vehemently denied it. Thornton had interviewed Ava in the mid 1980s but lied and said it was for himself, when he was actually secretly doing it for Kitty Kelley to write that tell-all about Sinatra.

Later it became clear Kelley had made up a lot of the quotes and information in that book, including that Ava had supposedly claimed she hated Sinatra so much she aborted his baby out of spite.

Kelley was a real piece of shit. It bugs me that some shitty homophobic thing Kitty Kelley dreamed up is always going to be credited to Ava, but there's no changing it now, everyone wants to believe it so they do.

Angela Lansbury and Lucille Ball

Angela Lansbury and Patty Duke

Helen Lawson and Neely O’Hara

Neely hated her, but Helen just felt sorry for her.

Saint Louis and Chicago. Only Saint Louisans are aware of it.

Gay men aren’t aware that lesbians hate them and see themselves as allies.

Lesbians are for lesbians only.

Stop trying to trollbait the anti-trans bitches, R90 et al. They're not on this thread.

Joyce DeWitt vs Suzanne Somers

Joyce was right all along

Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

Kardashians and The World

Meghan Markle and her hair.....

R24 at least L.A. knows S.F. exists.

When I was growing up in San Diego, L.A. was the Big Bad Monster to the North. Local politicians were always accusing opponents of trying to turn "America's Finest City" into the cesspool that was Los Angeles. So much so that "Los Angelization" became an actual phrase in the media that was constantly discussed, and there was a very influential local political group called PLAN (Prevent Los Angelization Now). We were also taught to loathe the Dodgers with the white hot fury of a thousand suns.

When I eventually moved to L.A. myself, I quickly realized that L.A. doesn't even know San Diego exists, including the Padres. They consider the S.F. Giants to be their chief California rivals.

Me and Trump. He doesn’t know I exist, but I truly HATE that fucker with every fiber of my being.

When Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj were on American Idol - Nicki kept trying to feud with Mariah online and on the show but Mariah didn't rise to the bait and just calmly kept adjusting her tits.

R86, thanks for the info. I think of it less as homophobic and more a swipe at Mia.

Kitty Kelley sounds like an evil bitch.

Linda Evans and John Forsythe vs Joan Collins

Linda and John resented Joan for stealing ‘their’ show when she joined Dynasty in season two. Joan made the show a success and never really thought about them.

I thought Linda and Joan got along.

Once Joan eclipsed her in stature Linda made shallow overtures in the press about their being friends, but she always resented her making Dynasty a success.

[quote] but I’m a natural grudgeholder and very touchy around people I don’t like which is why I often find myself up to the wee hours of the morning having a spat with someone on DL

Fixed

Boston and NYC

Boston?!!!

Oh, I love upstate New York! So quaint.

Australia and the United States, to judge from the press, anyway.

Australian Press: America is pure evil and the reason for anything that ever goes wrong ever!!

American Press: Australia has unique wildlife. Here is a picture of a furry animal the size of a small dog. It might be a koala. No, wait, it's probably a wombat. Hmmm. No. A platypus? David, is that a platypus? How many legs do they have? OH MY GOD IT'S A SPIDER HOLD ME DAVID I'M SCARED

^^U.K. Press: and the colonials continue to disappoint and embarrass themselves. Well, back to the crossword.

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother hated the Duchess of Windsor and ensured she would never be HRH or received warmly. The Duchess of Windsor called her a fat Scottish cook.

Didn't Marilyn Monroe hate Liz Taylor? Or was it the other way around?

I seem to remember that Liz once said of Marilyn: "Get that dyke away from me!"

Moohriagh vs JLo. Bitch she left you in the dust a decade ago.

LBJ adored Jackie Kennedy. He thought she was classy and elegant and ladylike and beautiful. He treated her basically like a princess. When he became president. He and Lady Bird told her she could take all the time she needed to move out of the White House, and when they moved in, they did not take down the absurdly pretentious sign she had put up on the entrance to the presidential bedroom that said, "JOHN F. KENNEDY Lived Here with His Wife." (The Nixons took it down instead in 1969.)

LBJ didn't know that Jackie actually loathed him. She thought he was vulgar and ill-bred, and referred to him behind his back as "Colonel Cornpone." She also said unkind things about Lady Bird, who was always respectful and kind towards her.

Jackie was pretty much a real piece of work.

You're telling me R113. I repeatedly saw her at Sloans Supermarket on 3rd. She would dent the cans on the edge of her cart before going to the manager and demanding a reduced price.

Christina Crawford and Joan. Joan loved her, gave her a world and life she could only ever dream about and that ungrateful girl who that book full of lies about Joan.

Don't ask ME!???!!

Dynasty was great before Joan; it was great in a different way after she got there.

The Empire creator Lee Daniels said he had a copy of Dynasty Season 1 in his writers room for Empire.

Well, Mariah was jealous of Jennifer Lopez who never really thought about her.

I grew up in LA and I love all the comments about the city on this thread! Angelinos really couldn't care less what other cities/regions think about us. I find it rather charming. Most of us natives have no hate for those other places either. Just mild indifference.

I remember when I moved to NYC my 25 year old self was shocked at how hated my hometown was - and by many people who had never been there! I just laughed it off. Which infuriated NYCers even more. Eh, what can I say? LA is very laissez faire...

r119, you seem to be under the delusion (evidently flattering to you, based on your post) that other people are thinking about LA constantly.

I have to confess I almost never think of it at all.

Uh... the US and the UK?

Not at all R120. Thus me being shocked when I heard all the NYC hatred toward LA. I couldn't care less one way or the other. I brought it up, because, you know, it's the topic of the thread...

DL face Vivian Vance and William Frawley.

FAVE FAVE

R119 I'm from San Francisco myself, and I always roll my eyes when people speak disparagingly about L.A. I visit L.A. every couple of years and always have a great time.

R119 Sorry, I'm not R124, I'm R24. These fucking fat fingers, oy!

I've lived in S.F. and did hear people try to downgrade L.A. IMO, it's apples and oranges.

Trump and Obama. Trump has such a hard-on for him, and Obama couldn't care less about him.

[quote] I told him he was welcome to think Colorado was better if it made him happy, but California is unbothered so stop wasting my time with this nonsense.

Just substitute Texas and Seattle for Colorado in that anecdote, and that comes close to what I've heard before. Especially Texas. Somebody must have told them a rivalry exists between them and California, but California has not heard one thing about it.

Levon Helm v. Robbie Robertson - Levon Helm badmouthed Robertson often. When Robertson was asked about Helm during interviews, he never had a bad word to say. When the Band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Levon Helm stayed home.

R114, she was ON ASSISTANCE!!!

I may have had an irritable sister but her irritation never concerned me much.

r7

No one has know them. Who cares? Don't waste time.

Antarctica v Greenland

Antarctica: "Greenland WHO?"

You're telling me [R113]. I repeatedly saw her at Sloans Supermarket on 3rd. She would dent the cans on the edge of her cart before going to the manager and demanding a reduced price.

Well, when you're OnAssistanc, you have toi learn how to really stretch your dollar so as to pay for creamed corn and send Caroline to Brearley. We should be forbearing.