Hags Who Out Everyone

Carrie Fisher.

A woman I worked with at P&G outed me, I guess to show how savvy and in-the-know she was, and made my life hell in the process. This was back before P&G offered any protections for its gay employees.

R2 what a fucking cunt! Did you get revenge?

R3, No, she immediately started fiercely defending me against the harassment.......which I wouldn't have faced if she hadn't outed me. I would have come out on my own, once I had gotten on my feet, but I was still very new when it happened.

Thank god I had nothing like that in high school / college / work.

P&G? Is that like CVS?

I hope this turns into a St Elmos Fire thread. I just watched it again for the first time in years! Has no idea Mare Winnigham was pregnant during the filming! They really went overboard on the frump considering her extra chub would have been enough to sell the unrequited lust bit.

Rob Lowe was just beautiful in it.

R6, P&G = Procter and Gamble.

Gay men are typically polite/"nice" to most people, especially frau-ish women. I know I was They detect this civility as "gayness" and then set out to destroy. This has been done to straight men I know, as well. One guy had to move away because this one woman convinced the entire friend group of his gayness. If I have a son, I'm going to teach him to be an asshole. Or at least cold and brusque.

R9 true, they hate nice men. I think they usually have some massive Daddy issues and they feel powerless towards strong male figures, so they take it on the first nice gay that comes along.

Cold and brusque is even more of a red flag to those types.

R11 - really? Then what's the best strategy?

R10 / R11 you have to flirt. They’re control freaks who need to know they have the power of the pussy.

R12 legal or illegal?

Or maybe don’t be a closeted homophobic coward and there is nothing to “out”. Why should it be a shameful secret unless you’re an anti-gay coward? Would you be furious if someone “outed” your eye color or home town? Are you sad or fearful that someone might not like you? Oh, the horror. I was born in the mid 70s and might not have come out as a teen had I been born a decade or two earlier because it could have been a legal risk or a sure fire job killer (depending on the sector). But unless you’re facing jail or a true blacklist from employment, you are a pathetic anti-gay coward if you’re closeted. It’s the pitiful closet queens that slowed the process of equality for gay people in the US. Homophobia is terrible in straights as well, but in gays it is sickening and traitorous. I will never be complicit in anyone’s closet and will never lie about it on anyone’s behalf unless life is at risk. I despise closet queens: you are obviously pathetic, an impediment to gay rights and a joke to everyone.

R15 I think there's a huge difference between being in the closet and faking to be straight . I don't mind the former, the latter is an eye sore and definitely says something about their internal homophobia

[quote] Why should it be a shameful secret unless you’re an anti-gay coward?

It shouldn't, but many of the posters in this thread are telling stories from their PAST when there were fewer legal protections and far less acceptance of "the gays."

*internalized homophobia

R15 is psychotic and a fan-clacking bottom.

[quote] Bitch, fuck off! Let me do it on my own time. You’re going to get me bashed.”

With that kind of vocabulary and snide style, do you honestly think you passed? I don’t think your hag friend needed to do any outing, MARY!

I think it's general busybodiness as to why these women feel the need to out someone. All the theories about pussy power are just paranoia. These are the same women who spy on the neighbors and call the cops when they see overgrown grass in someone's yard or gossip to everyone when they see someone having an affair. They are pathetic and infuriating.

R15 you’re an asshole. Everyone comes out on their own terms, to act like a 15yo in rural Idaho or an equivalent redneck shithole should have the courage to come out and be loud & proud, regardless of the consequences is idiotic. Unless you’re like an anti-gay Republican 50yo Senator no young person should be forced out of the closet.

R21 it’s a control thing.

R15 is an idiot. My boyfriend went to school with a kid who was outed on local TV by his two day fag hags. His super Christian parents kicked him out and he spent the rest of senior year couch surfing and depressed, eventually getting into drugs. And this was in Washington state.

R15 it’s one thing for everyone to know and not say anything, but entirely another thing to bring it to everyone’s attention.

Let's not pretend like gay people get the exact same treatment as their straight co-workers. Straight co-workers aren't apt to jump right into asking eacho other "bedroom" (sex) questions. I remember starting an office job and the mouthy woman in the office tried to needle me with all sorts of questions that she didn't ask the other new people in proximity to us. She didn't ask anyone else where do they go out on weekends... It was very transparent that she was trying to put together a picture of me, yet others were left ungrilled. And no, she wasn't attracted to me.

I worked in the tech department at a company that was no joke about 95% Frau - who thought I was sorta asexual nerdy for a long time, no one asked about my sex life etc, then one day this butch possibly heavily closeted dyke Frau (a Trumper too, a real Ma Kettle type) got hired in my division and started mulling over the possibility that I was gay in the lunch room (one ally told me later). Once her theory took hold all but 2 of the Fraus turned; I was no longer the lovable nerd, I couldn’t get things done and they wouldn’t comply with my tech requests quickly anymore, everything was liking walking through molasses, it was sort of a “who the fuck is this fag to tell me what to do?” attitude and worse. I ended up having to quit and go to another company. My new company is full-on tech and 90% male, been here 5 years and no problems. If I spot new Fraus hired, which is very rare I just avoid them. Literally evil cunts and would have never spoke an ill word before that experience.

To sum up this thread: 'women in the workplace are evil'. Got it.

Hey, johnny