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What was Spain's greatest contribution to mankind?

For a place as old as venerable it sure is a bit short on actual significant contributions to mankind, isn't it? It's probably most famous for the "Age of Exploration", but that led to millions of deaths so there was hardly anything great about it.

Was it the invention of siesta that prevented them from achieving greater things?

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Catherine of Aragon

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Pablo Picasso

Salvador Dali

El Greco

Juan Miro

Francisco Goya

And many more....

by Anonymousreply 209/11/2020

Rossy de Palma, bitches!

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Spanish Bar Cake

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R2 The greatest painter on that list is El Greco and he wasn't even Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 509/11/2020

Sangria and tapas

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Pedro Almodovar

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Insert randy bull (or just very hung guy named Randy) into OP pic.

by Anonymousreply 809/11/2020

Fucking owning he whole fucking globe at one point. Spanish silver was the world currency in the 16th century. The trade they promoted Brought chilies to India, oranges to Florida, coffee to Colombia and sweet potatoes to the Philippines.

They were rich but horrible at business, it took the dutch and English to Set that up.

by Anonymousreply 909/11/2020

Art, architecture, music, dance. The land itself is often beautiful beyond belief. The people of Spain are the warmest and most beautiful in the world.

by Anonymousreply 1009/11/2020

Don't forget the Inquisition - thanks, Spanish Catholics.

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They invented the novel (Cervantes).

by Anonymousreply 1309/11/2020

Isn't "The Tale of Genji" (predating Don Quixote by almost 600 years) usually considered to be the world's first novel?

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Tapas. If only their men didnt have foreskin...

by Anonymousreply 1509/11/2020

Charo, who, apart from her zany antics, is actually a highly regarded flamenco guitarist.

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Tapas are possibly of anti-Semitic origins:

[quote] It has also been claimed that tapas originated in the south of Spain during the time of the Spanish Inquisition as a means of publicly identifying conversos, Jews who had converted to Christianity. Since tapas often consist in part of ham or other non-kosher foodstuffs, the reluctance of the conversos to eat whatever tapas dish was offered to them could be taken as a tacit admission that they had not abandoned their Jewish faith, thus tapas were a tool of the Spanish Inquisition.

by Anonymousreply 1709/11/2020

Don Quijote.

by Anonymousreply 1809/11/2020

No country is as superior as the USA.

by Anonymousreply 1909/11/2020

No. Probably they created idiots like OP who cancels out all their achievements. SAD.!!!

by Anonymousreply 2009/11/2020

Language. More people speak Spanish as their native language than any other except Chinese. As between Spanish and Chinese, one of the ugliest languages in the world, there is no comparison. Religion. DL atheists may not like it, but more people in the world are Christian because of the Spanish than any other group, and their lives are better for it. Culture. (Already discussed above.)

by Anonymousreply 2109/11/2020

Latin men.

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Spanish language is gorgeous, that's for sure, but unfortunately the spreading of Spanish throughout their colonies also meant the demise of thousands of other languages.

And let's not forget that Spaniards also worked very hard to suppress the Basque language, THE OLDEST LANGUAGE IN EUROPE, up until very recently. Luckily they failed.

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R17, are you a member of Hillel? Anti-Semitic food? What absurdity is next?

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This cute pocket gay.

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R25 He's no Rodrigo Cuevas!

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Stunningly gorgeous gay men.

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This is kind of a silly question. What counts as "Spain"? It arguably wasn't even a "country" until 1492 (the end of the reconquista), so are we only looking at "contributions" made since then? Germany and Italy weren't countries until the late 1800s, so they made no "contributions" before that late date. What counts as a "contribution"? Does it have to be something that produced a net benefit to humanity? It's near impossible to calculate whether an invention's benefits outweigh its costs. Making that calculation about cultural contributions like religion, discovery of the Americas, etc., is even harder. But even if you settle on a coherent definition of "Spain" and "contribution," you still have the problem of what counts as a "contribution" attributable to "Spain." Fact is, western Europe is one big cultural sphere, and it's impossible to separate out the influences of what are now different countries. The Spanish ruled the low countries for a long time, so Dutch achievements during and after Spanish rule can't be separated from Spain, etc. And there are many similar problems.

by Anonymousreply 2909/11/2020

Culture including Spanish language, exploration and conquest (with Portuguese) leading to a global humanity, art. Spain may not be the most important contributor in certain areas but in many areas they certainly are important.

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Spanish gastronomy and all its regions. Cervantes and Golden Age Theatre, painters, Rafa Nadal, caballé, domingo and Carreras. Not bad. Almodóvar, Saura and Buñuel. And Lorda and Cernuda.

by Anonymousreply 3109/11/2020

I suppose Garrotting was rather unique

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It's too early to tell.

by Anonymousreply 3309/11/2020

they prevented the muslim expansion to europe so that those anglo racists in the UK remain white.

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they founded the first schools and the first restaurants in the united states

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Torturing and killing cows as a form of entertainment.

Killing off the indigenous population of the Americas by spreading cold/flu and other diseases, as well as murdering them.

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Jamón ibérico

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Financing Columbus.

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The world's greatest lisping, gaydar-scrambling men.

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Don't forget us!

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R37 omg yes! The best

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El Camino de Santiago. I’ve walked it twice. I wish everyone could. COvid May have slowed it popularity.

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Walking El Camino was high up on my bucket list until I heard those pilgrim albergues are swarming with bed bugs.

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It lead to the discovery of the Americas. They became experts in exporting the New World's treasures to the rest of the world changing civilization forever: from how they eat to the dispersion of the world human population.

The truth is that Spain is all that and a bag of chips.

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R43 - well there is that risk, though not swarming. About the same risk as most American hotels.

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r29 is insufferable

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[quote]Tapas are possibly of anti-Semitic origins:


by Anonymousreply 4709/11/2020

Well, the Americas. Christopher Colombus went out on Ferdinand and Isabella's behalf.

by Anonymousreply 4809/11/2020

Why is everybody bending over backwards answering a question asked by a bigoted xenophobe?

by Anonymousreply 4909/11/2020

I just assumed it was typical Dl snobbery but now that you say so... OP's post does sound awfully aggressive and xenophobic.

Speak up OP or be blocked forever !!!!

by Anonymousreply 5009/11/2020

I guess I'm xenophobic a bit (who isn't?!) but the nations I happen to have the lowest tolerance for are the Chinese, Americans, the French and Russkies - now those are vile and ill-mannered people. Spaniards are among the nations I have absolutely nothing against, I was just pointing out that their history is a bit short on significant contributions to mankind (no great scientific finds, no great composers...) Yeah, they did change the world forever with them "discovering" new lands, but not necessarily for the better.

But I do love the Spanish people themselves, because they're one of the most relaxed and pleasant people in the world. Unlike other Western Europeans (who often act snobby and seem like they have brooms stuck up their asses) they seem like a very modest and self-deprecating bunch with a great sense of humour. They're a bit too loud for my taste, but that ceases to be a problem after you down a couple of sangria glasses.

So, is this enough to stay off your ignored list, oh beloved Oracle of Santa Ines?

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Spanish Fly

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I'd say hot nights in Barcelona. First European city I've ever visited. One of the best vacations of my life. Till this day I tried recreating the magic, even going back once. It was close but never the same. I did fuck a built Italian guy. He had Catholic guilt after the deed was done but his heels were to the sky as soon as I closed the door to the hotel room. I loved spending the nights dancing and dancing before taking a stroll on the beach at 5am.

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It's no Italy.

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Low, heavy, thick, multi-ethnic post colonial uncut cock drizzled with the most delectable olive oil.

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Tacos. Thread closed.

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[quote]r23 Spanish language is gorgeous

I hate the lisping part. Annoying (and pretentious) as [italic]fuck[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 5809/11/2020

Best: kicking the Moors off the Iberian peninsula, stopping the spread of Islam from the southwest.

Granted, the Spaniards have the worst of the colonial records. They obliterated an entire third column of human history (the Americas), and most traces of any precolonial arts and culture across their entire empire (Philippines, for example).

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You've never heard dirty talk until you've heard a Barcelona man say the word 'coño!' in a breathy Almodóvarian whisper.

by Anonymousreply 6009/11/2020

i have been to italy and let me tell you that it was boring as hell. yes beautiful museums and architecture but that is it.

by Anonymousreply 6109/11/2020

The ass in OP's pic is enough of a contribution.

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Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the Moors just happened to be one of the most advanced civilizations in Europe at the time?

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R63 as opposed to now?

by Anonymousreply 6409/11/2020

R59, the Spanish were more humane colonists than the English or the Belgians. The English intentionally committed genocide against Native Americans.

by Anonymousreply 6509/11/2020

Cancel R15.

Celebrate the Spaniard prepucio forever.

by Anonymousreply 6609/11/2020

That's ridiculous, R65. Look the world over at the British Empire, whether the Indian Subcontinent, Burma, Africa, and - yes - the Americas. Cultures, religions, names, writing styles, and more were all left intact.

The British did nothing of the sort against the Native Americans on some large scale. When it comes to the Americas, the British Crown's tolerance of the Quebecois' Roman Catholicism compared to the puritanical Americans is a large part as to why they did not also join in the American Revolution.

The Spanish in their Catholic fervor destroyed pretty much all precolonial existence, renamed their subjects in the Spanish fashion, forbade the native languages, and ruled by the cross. The British were interested in making money.

by Anonymousreply 6709/11/2020

I found this curious quote on Spaniards from Immanuel Kant. Looks like people looking down on Spanish culture goes back a looong time.

[quote] The Spaniard's bad side is that he does not learn from foreigners; that he does not travel in order to get acquainted with other nations; that he is centuries behind in the sciences. He resists any reform; he is proud of not having to work; he is of a romantic quality of spirit, as the bullfight shows; he is cruel, as the former auto-da-fé shows; and he displays in his taste an origin that is partly non-European."

by Anonymousreply 6809/11/2020

King Ferdinand II and Queen Isabella I both of Aragon reigning over a dynastically unified Spain, 1469 and 1474, respectively, through 1504.

by Anonymousreply 6909/11/2020

Picasso. Gaudi. And I think the Catholic Church probably did more than the siesta to “prevent” achievements.

by Anonymousreply 7009/11/2020

R67= brainwashed Englishman. The English were the most ruthless exterminationists that ever existed. They used their religion as a license to murder. And newsflash, prior to 1776, the American colonists were British. But you knew that, you're just being dishonest.

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La Marieta, Rocio Durcal.

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The Macarena from Los Del Rio

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They made lisping acceptable

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The slave trade!

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R71 is right.

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Filipinos with Spanish names!

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Frantic arm gestures.

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Hot men and literally that is all.

by Anonymousreply 7909/11/2020

The British Empire was all about trade not genocide, although many of the Native Indians died of smallpox and other European diseases brought over by the colonists.

by Anonymousreply 8009/11/2020

They named us "America"!

by Anonymousreply 8109/11/2020

R2 Tapas originated with the Basques. But they call them pinxtos. And pork is a mainstay of Basque food.

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Here’s a list of Spanish inventions OP/r51 that’ll hopefully enlighten your ignorant ass.

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[quote]King Ferdinand II and Queen Isabella I both of Aragon reigning over a dynastically unified Spain, 1469 and 1474, respectively, through 1504.

Actually, Ferdinand was of Aragon and Isabella of Castile. Isabella was the mo

by Anonymousreply 8509/11/2020

R80 the article above at R84 is for you, learn some of your History.

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The pork/conversos thing is correct

No idea if it had anything to do with tapas, but pork is a mainstay of Spanish cuisine because the Inquisition wanted to root out Jews and Muslims (who can't eat pork either) who were still practicing their religion.

One way a convert could prove that they had taken to Catholicism was to openly eat pork and thus it became a popular menu item.

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The Gypsy Kings!

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watching now!

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R83 Wow: lollipops, Molotov cocktails and a farthingale. To quote that Trump-loving cunt Shania Twain: that list don't impress me much.

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Spanish fly,Rose

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Thirty-five different forms of ever goddamn verb.

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Sculptured wood-look furniture.

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The explicit physical exhibitionism of hispanophone women.

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R26, what is that? A skateboard?

by Anonymousreply 9809/11/2020

Geez, R29, wasn't I in your class at Whatsamatta U?

by Anonymousreply 9909/11/2020

It's a traditional wooden clog, called Cantabrian albarca. Rodrigo seems to be fond of wearing them...Or using them to hide his polla.

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[quote]i have been to italy and let me tell you that it was boring as hell.

Said no one but you, ever.

by Anonymousreply 10109/11/2020

It's arguable that the siesta ranks up with the discovery of electricity and the vaccine for polio.

by Anonymousreply 10209/11/2020

What about me you conyos ingratos

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This man.

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I'm surprised Cecilia Gimenez hasn't been mentioned yet.

by Anonymousreply 10509/11/2020

"Y Tu Mama Tambien"

by Anonymousreply 10609/11/2020

[quote][R83] Wow: lollipops, Molotov cocktails and a farthingale. To quote that Trump-loving cunt Shania Twain: that list don't impress me much.

Sure. Ignore stuff like antiseptics, calculators, steam engines, botany, the Gregorian calendar, eye glasses and radiology/radiotherapy.

by Anonymousreply 10709/11/2020

R79 yes, including this hot piece of ass. Mmmm, yummy.

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R108 and this one, damn, this boy has one fine culo

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Most of the nightmare that is Latin America. Not one successful colony.

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Why are their features so dark? Don't people evolve after all this time? It's like they live in Africa. They seem so unnecessary.

by Anonymousreply 11109/11/2020

R84 None of those things was an atrocity caused by Britain. This is pseudo-history very popular among the anti-colonial crazies.

by Anonymousreply 11209/11/2020

R34, Excuse me?!

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[quote]"Y Tu Mama Tambien"

From Mexico, not Spain.

by Anonymousreply 11409/11/2020

Locomia!!!!!! gay fashion, dancing and style.

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r110 spaniards were never the majority of the population in those colonies, they were indeed a minority.

by Anonymousreply 11609/11/2020

Friendliest Europeans I ever met on about 15 trips were Basques in Pamplona. Invited to stay with the family of a hotelier, during the Fiesta of San Fermin, aka, the running of the bulls. Ate dinner with the family.

I'd loved Spain ever since high school Spanish, and then after reading "Iberia." It was thrilling to finally visit, to see the Prado, the Alhambra, Madrid, Cuenca, Sevilla, Cordoba, Toledo, Jerez, Salamanca, Santander, the Pyrenees, and more.

But the absolute best sight among innumerable glorious ones, was right near that Basque family. The waiting time to view the famous Altamira caves was more than we could manage, so we drove on. And then we saw signs to a different cave with Neanderthal murals! Truly awe-inspiring.

What was Spain's major contribution? Besides the founding of our cities along the Franciscans' 16th Century trail, from St. Augustine to San Diego?

Latin America (Brazil excepted).

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The Spanish Foreign Legion

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R112 denial is strong with you, remove you're fucking blinders and realise that "Britain"'s action had a negative impact on others. Or you prefer to pretend like Churchill wasn't prime minister during the Bengal famine?

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[quote] Sure. Ignore stuff like antiseptics, calculators, steam engines, botany, the Gregorian calendar, eye glasses and radiology/radiotherapy.

The use of antiseptics goes back to Ancient Greece and so does modern botany and eye glasses. The first mechanical calculator was a German invention and the mastermind behind the Gregorian calendar was a Kraut too. Radiotherapy was first used in France and the US, using the findings of German scientists.

So now you know why I ignored that stuff, missy!

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Huge gay community

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This beauty

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R65 unfortunately, not true.

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the hero of gaylings everywhere

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Fabada Asturiana.

The best thing I ate in Spain (other than ass).

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Cruisy dunes at every gay beach from the Canarias to Mallorca.

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this, certainly

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You seriously need to ask!?

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Lots of great writers, poets, novelists, playwrights (Cervantes, Lorca, the Quinteros), and many great musicians, (Granados, de Falla, Albeniz, Mompou). Great visual artists and architects. What they lacked were the political and social conditions to found sustainable schools for scientists to be trained and to flourish, and for middle class businesses to thrive. Sadly, most of the silver and gold mined in the New World came back to Spain to build palaces and churches and support armies, not to found and support institutions of learning, especially in science and engineering.

by Anonymousreply 12909/12/2020

R129 Great post. And a lot of that silver and gold never even made it to Spain, because it was spent on building new colonial cities abroad and on new land discoveries instead. That's also why Madrid seems so plain for a former imperial capital - the colonies cost the Spaniards so much they couldn't even afford to give their capital a major facelift.

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Rafael Nadal's world famous ass.

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I always thought Rafa's ass was so overrated. I prefer those tight matador butts.

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And thanks to the bulls you get to see more than just their butts occasionally:

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Siesta is in fact very good for the body and mind.

By the way, Spain changed a lot in a short period of time, which of course means contradictions.

Right now bullfights are not popular at all for most people, in fact i think most people in Spain really hates them.

Antonio Machado in one of his poems talked about the two Spains, and i think it's still relevant. There's a big divide between conservative and progessist (in spanish liberal has a very different meaning), even with that Spain tends towards left.

Like other southern european countries (specially Italy and Portugal), spanish people tend to be caotic and louder, but way warmer and caring than north and central europeans

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The mop Lollipops Cigarettes Steam engine Wheelchairs Glasses Neuroscience

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Baccara 🙂

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Chupa Chups

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Spain's biggest problem is - it has always seemed to be at war with itself. Still is.

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The Spanish are the missing link between northern Europeans and blacks. 500 millions years it took to go from African to Spanish and only 100 million for Spanish to evolve into northern Europeans

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Manu Rios

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Jalif Studio.

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Alaska is actually Mexican but the Spanish adore her, R138

by Anonymousreply 14509/12/2020

How about that tiny actor on faulty towers? Manuel?

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Killed off all the brown people in South America and brought horse s to America

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r120 you have to back up all the crap that you wrote with actual data, cite your sources missy.

by Anonymousreply 14809/12/2020

R146, You mean the totally British actor who played Manuel?

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Ferdinand the Bull, who refused to fight.

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R149 jerk. How about bike riders. Some Spanish rider are in tour de france

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Excuse me, r151?!

How is a British actor playing "Manuel" in "Fawlty Towers" a "contribution of Spain"? And why am I a "jerk" for being factual?

Furthermore, what makes you think your illiterate "Some Spanish rider are in tour de france" is an example of...what, exactly? Was somebody claiming that only Frenchmen participate? Was somebody claiming that the Tour de France is one of France's "contributions"?

WTH is your point?


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[quote] You mean the totally British actor who played Manuel?

The actor who played Manuel was actually a German Jew. I'm sure Immanuel Kant would find the idea of a Kraut playing a Spaniard amusing.

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They are weird a little. A guy my roommate dyaed seemed super smart and well-read and cultured, yet was an abusive macho type. Him and his colleagues made good money as engineers on a huge project in Romania, yet, unlike the locals who are not so well-paid seemed to have zero interest in leaving their homes for any cultural events or flying for a weekend trip anywhere interesting. They seemed to straddle between macho, intellectual and retarded.

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Spanish male models.

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Antonio Banderas

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R154 You're complaining because they were both smart AND macho?! I'm pretty sure that's how most queens would describe their dream man.

by Anonymousreply 15809/13/2020

R153 you r robbing Spain of their only contribution. Leave me alone while I quietly sob

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Andalusian (Mission) style.

The Plaza The Dollar Puebla Cathedral

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Lo siento llego tarde a la fiesta, pero Benito Pérez Galdos, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Naranjas de Sevilla, (le auténtica "Marmelada"de Bretaña no es posible sin ellas) Flan, Manchego, Cristóbal Balenciaga: "El maestro de todos nosotros"- Christian Dior. Ciudad de México,, Puerta Rico., y San Agustín Florida, USA

Sorry I'm late to the party, but Galdos, Marquez, Seville Oranges, (real British Marmelade isn't possible without them) Crème Caramel, Manchego, Balenciaga: "The Master of Us All -Christian Dior, Mexico City, Puerto Rico, and St. Augustine Florida, USA. ¡Muchísimas Gracias España!

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Cava! 🍾

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R161 The origins of crème caramel are unclear; the UK, Spain and France all claim it as their own.

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R164 ¿De veras? Para ti... They were the first to top Flan with a caramel sauce, and are responsible for spreading it to the world.

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How about Jordan schlansky on Conan O'Brien? He has nice Spanish chest

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Flamenco y Tangos Gitanos

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¡ Mas BGKO por favor!

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For some reason that (overrated) band changed its name from Barcelona Gipsy KLEZMER Orchestra to Barcelona Gipsy BALKAN Orchestra. That move sounds a bit anti-semitic to me.

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R170 It's a slightly different ensemble with more of a focus on Balkan music generally, than strictly Gitanos or Gipsy songs. Not every album they release has this name, as it depends who is playing with them. Many orchestras are like this.

Both names are used, and BGKO is still very much part of their banding. I think if you were familiar with their music, it would make more sense to you. I'm not seeing where you see antisemitism, and I just so happen to be Jewish.

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This, of course.

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Cultural genocide is their worst contribution.

They obliterated the native peoples in the Caribbean and almost totally wiped them out in South America. The British and the French Empires look like the Red Cross compared to what the Spaniards did in the Americas.

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R173 cultural? They exterminate d the people and if those people were fully human , that's bad because it means it could happen to us.

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the black legend invented by anglos for political purposes against spain is bullshit. the cruelest slave owners were the anglos, as proven by the bunch of black people who flee their anglo masters.

spaniards never kill or exterminated natives, in fact, the mayan language is still alive. spaniards, unlike anglos did intermixed a lot with both indians and blacks as they didnt have the virulent hate and racism that anglos had toward natives and black. in the spanish kingdoms you had indians that were educated in prestigious universities and became soldiers for the spanish crown.

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R175 is 100% correct. The British invented modern genocide and the most diabolic systems of racial hierarchy.

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The cultures remain. It's the people who were subject to genocide.

by Anonymousreply 17709/13/2020

r175 That varies greatly from country-to-country. In Mexico, the vast majority of the population is mestizo, but you go to someplace like Argentina and the vast majority of the people are 100% European.

by Anonymousreply 17809/13/2020

Of course the Nazis killed the undesirables!

by Anonymousreply 17909/13/2020

It's funny how racist white Latinos never let you forget about their European background, but to actual Europeans these people seem just as "exotic" as mestizos or the Natives.

by Anonymousreply 18009/13/2020

r180 im white latino, and I have traveled all around europe and nobody ever asked me if i was"latino". what's more, in the 20+ years that I have lived in the US nobody has ever been able to tell where I was born, when I open my mouth and they listen to my accent they ask me whether im from europe.

besides, anglos of english, irish and german ancestry can feel proud of their ancestry, so can we as well, white latinos of spanish, portuguese and italian background, and that doesnt mean that we are racist, unlike anglos, who do it not because they want to keep their ancestral identity but because of some stupid white supremacist ideology. I was born in cuba, a country where we practice more than three african religions from nigeria, congo and gambia and where ancient african languages is still spoken, so I never heard about white supremacists until I came to the US.

by Anonymousreply 18109/13/2020

R181 why can't you admit that northern European s are superior? Your attitude is childish.

by Anonymousreply 18209/13/2020

This interesting thread has really gone off the rails.

by Anonymousreply 18309/13/2020

R182, the only thing northern Europeans are superior in is their susceptibility to the Dunning-Kruger effect. Northern Europeans were still sticking their arms in boiling water to settle legal disputes when Southern Europeans were crafting the Corpus Juris Civilis.

by Anonymousreply 18409/13/2020

The Church of San Nicolas, in Valencia.

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R180, Spain is a huge part of the History of Latin America. There are almost no Latinos that don't recognize that Spain is part of the reason they are alive, with a few exceptions. Mestizo is a new ethnicity created by the Spanish and Natives. Unique to the Americas. This did not happen with the white groups from the US and Canada, for the most part.

To this day Spain has a lot of influence with the official Spanish spoken in the New World's governments, including the US. La Real Academia Española, which is the head of all the other 22 official academies that guard the Spanish language around the world, is infamous for pressuring governments to rewrite official texts books and official government documents. In the 90s right after the Mexican economy collapsed, the Royal Spanish Academy very famously pressured a broke Mexican government to reprint an entire volume of school books (in the millions) because the freshly printed books included a word they deemed outdated. Spain lost a lot of its influence during the Franco years, but make no mistake, they have ramp up their influence in the last 2 decades.

If you control the language, you control the narrative.

by Anonymousreply 18609/13/2020

the greatest contribution that spain has given to the world is that it embraces all races equally, spain is the least homophobic and racist country in all europe. yes, they are some people who are like that but most of them are christians.

the difference between anglos and latinos of european background is that gringos have a racial identity that is almost is based on race, skin color, and other stupid ideologies. this is thanks to their english roots. latinos of european ancestry have a cultural identity mainly to spain, portugal and italy and they dont identify with the concept of whiteness or europeanness, because that type of racial ideology is not what the poor spanish peasants brought to latin america.

by Anonymousreply 18709/13/2020

R187 Oh yeah, it's a fun place to be around...Unless you happen to be Jewish. Research shows that Spain is one of the most antisemitic countries in Europe.

[quote] According to a poll commissioned by the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 58.4% of Spaniards believe that "the Jews were powerful because they controlled the economy and the mass media. This number reached 62.2% among university students and 70.5% among those who are "interested in politics." More than 60% of Spanish university students said they did not want Jewish classmates. In other polling data, more than one-third (34.6%) of Spanish people had an unfavorable or completely unfavorable opinion of Jewish people. Among those who recognized themselves as having "antipathy for the Jewish people," only 17% says this was due to the "conflict in the Middle East." Nearly 30% of those surveyed said their dislike of Jews had to do with "their religion," "their customs," and "their way of life," while early 20% of Spaniards said they dislike Jews although they do not know why.

by Anonymousreply 18809/13/2020

They own the coolest TLD on Earth -- .cat

by Anonymousreply 18909/13/2020

R181, You will not persuade or seem even semi-literate until you use proper capitalization.

by Anonymousreply 19009/14/2020

R188 I've experienced enough Jews to understand why they are hated.

by Anonymousreply 19109/14/2020

R176 certainly got over the impact of the Spanish Conquests of the Americas and the subjugation and genocide of millions of indigenous Americans.

Oh, that's right.

She's woke and focused. And she don't care about no Indians.

Fuck people who use "history" for special interests and crankery without context. The British in history have a terrible burden to answer for, and that includes effects all over the world, but inserting quibble words such as "systems" and crapping out inappropriate words such as "diabolic" (very learned) just makes you a polemicist. And polemicists are usually liars for "the cause."

by Anonymousreply 19209/14/2020

r181 r187 Absolutely no one considers people of Italian descent to be Latino. And most people in the US don't use that term to refer to any Europeans. And why do you think that most "gringos" have English ancestry?

by Anonymousreply 19309/14/2020

R92: How many years did you study the Spanish language? I did four. Its also a gendered language which threw me for a loop. Plus heavily influenced by Arabic.

by Anonymousreply 19409/14/2020

What was Spain's greatest contribution to mankind?

The diseases of Europe that indigenous Americans had no immunity to.

Just like Trump and Covid, biological genocide.

by Anonymousreply 19509/14/2020

Netanyahu's dad wrote a very large and convincing book that anti-Jewish agitation in Ferdinand & Isabella's Spain was really a form of modern racism.

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Totopos (or nachos) are not from Spain.

by Anonymousreply 19809/14/2020

R192, there's no polemicist more disingenuous than one who accuses others of being polemicists and then smuggles their partisan ideas in under a veil of feigned moderation and objectivity. I'm allowed to use the word "systems" as shorthand, I don't have to write a dissertation. And the fact that you think a basic word like "system" is a "woke" catchphrase demonstrates that social media has turned your brain to mush. If you are interested in learning about the difference between British and Spanish racial hierarchies, there is an abundance of free materials available on the internet. Your laziness and ignorance is not a license to attack your betters.

by Anonymousreply 19909/14/2020

Hot guys

by Anonymousreply 20009/14/2020

people of italian descend who are born in latin american countries are latinos, that goes for everybody, whether they are chinese, japanese etc. latino is a definition that doesnt take into account origin. latin america received a lot of italian inmigration, not only argentina but venezuela, and cuba as well and they all consider themselves latinos.

the root of american racism comes mainly from the english colonizers. later generations came up with the one drop rule and other forms of racist policies to keep the "white" race pure.

by Anonymousreply 20109/14/2020

They’re called Latinx now, r201!!!

by Anonymousreply 20209/14/2020

Muriel, please ban the antisemitic neo-nazi cunt at R191!

by Anonymousreply 20309/14/2020

Have I been mentioned?

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Picasso was a hack and a misogynist!

Why isn't the fabulous Remedios Varo ever mentioned when it comes to great 20th century Spanish painters, huh huh?! The male dominance of the art industry must stop right here and now!

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by Anonymousreply 20509/14/2020

And not only was Miss Varo tremendously talented, she also happened to have really fabulous hair (unlike that fat baldy Picasso).

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I picked up a Varro at a boot sale recently for $20 bucks. You never see Picasso’s at a rummage sale. I see what you’re saying r205.

by Anonymousreply 20709/14/2020

Picasso's what?

by Anonymousreply 20809/14/2020

R205 - honestly she’s pretty incredible, just kidding about the garage sales.

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by Anonymousreply 21009/14/2020

El Escorial

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by Anonymousreply 21109/14/2020

Flamenco dance and flamenco guitar.

by Anonymousreply 21209/14/2020

Let's get this thread back on track celebrating the positive.

by Anonymousreply 21309/15/2020

Asturias/Leyenda by Issac Albeniz. Amazing

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by Anonymousreply 21409/15/2020

Those pants

Dat azz

by Anonymousreply 21509/15/2020

Santiago de Murcia was another great Spanish composer. His guitar pieces (which sound remarkably contemporary) make me shake my booty like it's 1698 all over again.

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by Anonymousreply 21609/15/2020

And then there was also poor Juan Arriaga, who died before even turning 20 but left behind some great and very catchy pieces.

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And judging from his only surviving portrait he looked kinda cute too. Dammit, why is it always the hot ones who have to die so young?!

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by Anonymousreply 21809/15/2020

María del Rosario Cayetana Paloma Alfonsa Victoria Eugenia Fernanda Teresa Francisca de Paula Lourdes Antonia Josefa Fausta Rita Castor Dorotea Santa Esperanza Fitz-James Stuart, Silva, Falcó y Gurtubay

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by Anonymousreply 21909/16/2020

R219 muy bonita.

by Anonymousreply 22009/16/2020

Spain's greatest contribution to mankind is Charo. Man, you guys are slipping.

by Anonymousreply 22109/16/2020

[quote]Most of the nightmare that is Latin America. Not one successful colony.

And then they left it for the US to deal with, like "have fun, suckers! We're outta here!"

by Anonymousreply 22209/16/2020

r221 So you're suggesting the thread should've ended at R16?

by Anonymousreply 22309/16/2020

Latin Americans of pure European background are not as well known in the US. The overwhelming majority of Latinos in the US are Mestizo or pure indigenous and are from Mexico, Puerto Rico. the Domincan Republic, Cuba and the various Central American countries. Many Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that white Spanish Latinos even exist and furthermore many people from Latin American countries are of non-Spanish white European stock such as Italian and German. They're never really seen in the US.

by Anonymousreply 22409/16/2020

the reason why england had" successful colonies is because in the ones they were actually succesful they dessimated the whole native population. you are forgetting jamaica, india, all all those caribean islands.

besides, most of the inmigrants that go inmigrate to the united states are from central america. secondly, I would rather live in any major latin american capital like buenos aires, santiago de chile, mexico city, with european architecture than in those underdeveloped american cities full of wharehouses and houses that look like sardine boxes.

by Anonymousreply 22509/16/2020

The English men didn't interbreed with the indigenous women like the Spanish did. They preferred procreating with their own stock.

by Anonymousreply 22609/16/2020

For the most part, Spain didn’t send women to its colonies. It sent soldiers, colonial administrators, clerics, and slaves. Spanish men who left for a life in the new world had little choice but to take a native woman for a wife. England, on the other hand, did see many more of its women emigrate alongside or after the men. An English colonial could take along or later send for an English wife.

by Anonymousreply 22709/16/2020

Mi culito, no?

by Anonymousreply 22809/16/2020

Julio Iglesias

by Anonymousreply 22909/16/2020

The great golfer Seve Ballesteros.

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by Anonymousreply 23009/16/2020

I think Spaniards mixed with the natives more because of their forced Christianization programme; when they converted "heathens" into Catholics those people became totally acceptable for breeding in their eyes.

by Anonymousreply 23109/16/2020

R231 no! Religion doesn't make u attracted to someone. Men have sex with sheep so why not a native?? If u are desperate.

by Anonymousreply 23209/16/2020

Maybe the native woman were more attractive than any Spanish peasant who would make the voyage.

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A New World Hole

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by Anonymousreply 23409/16/2020

Here's what that antisemitic whore Isabella looked like. If other Spanish women of that period looked even remotely like her it's not surprising Spanish men went after some indigenous pussy the minute they landed in South America.

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If you've ever met a woman from the Boston upper crust (i.e., not Irish or Italian but a descendant of the Mayflower passengers), then you'd understand why the colonial government chose to commit genocide against the natives. No one would fuck those English hags if they had another choice!

by Anonymousreply 23609/16/2020

r233=Elizabeth Warren

by Anonymousreply 23709/16/2020

They managed to create the current Puerto Rican ethnicity through rigorous color blind fucking, and for that we are thankful.

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by Anonymousreply 23809/16/2020

Not the Spanish Inquisition; nor Francisco Franco.

by Anonymousreply 23909/16/2020

The English believed that mixing with the indigenous people would be detrimental to their race, what today we would call "brain drain." They believed the natives were intellectually inferior and the consequences of mixing would be severely detrimental to their survival and intellectual and technological capabilities. Entire ships full of English women were sent to the colonies to procreate with the early English men, these women were auctioned off like slaves in the Virginia colony. Later on, England aggressively sent entire families or male-female couple to the colonies. As the above poster said, the Spanish settlers were mostly administrators etc. and there weren't as many Spanish women being sent over.

by Anonymousreply 24009/16/2020

Franco is still pretty popular in Spain. About a third of Spaniards think positively of him and his regime.

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Great ASS in that pic! Sublime really. Too bad it probably stinks to high heaven from what I've experienced with the Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 24209/16/2020

My VA Colony 7th? grandfather married a Potawan.

by Anonymousreply 24309/16/2020

Or stole her. IDK.

by Anonymousreply 24409/16/2020

Sometimes the white ladies were captured by injuns and were raped but adopted by the tribe. Sometimes they ran away willingly. Sometimes the raped whities stayed, refusing to go back, even when possible. They wrote their stories - called "captivity narratives" and several were published. Hot NATIVE COCK AND MEN

by Anonymousreply 24509/16/2020

[quote] Franco is still pretty popular in Spain. About a third of Spaniards think positively of him and his regime.

…the same proportion of Fascist Americans that support Donald Trump, then?

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by Anonymousreply 24709/16/2020

R235 why single her out for being anti anything. Everybody is tribal. It's our duty to defeat rival tribes especially bad people.

by Anonymousreply 24809/16/2020

R188. The Spaniards don't like the mutilators.

by Anonymousreply 24909/16/2020

Will Catalonia ever secede?

by Anonymousreply 25009/16/2020

Will the anti-circ "mutilated" troll ever die?

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by Anonymousreply 25209/16/2020

He should. What an odd thing to be obsessed about.

by Anonymousreply 25309/16/2020

nacho vidal, chris diamond and belgris

by Anonymousreply 25409/16/2020

Love their rocking Christmas song from 1550. . Riu Riu Chiu

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And just a fun fact or six: What we know as Mexican food is actually more American than Mexican. Or TexMex if you prefer. Plus Chinese food is so Americanized you have to go out of your way to find authentic Chinese food these days.

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