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Nasty Canadians harassing Americans legally crossing the border

I was packing for my road trip from Colorado to Alberta, Canada, when the text came in from a gentleman I’d been helping with groceries during the pandemic.

“The Canadians are actually doing damage to vehicles with United States plates on them,” he cautioned, giving me my first inkling that it wasn’t just public health officials who were serious about keeping Americans out of Canada, where the death rate from the coronavirus has been roughly half that of its southern neighbor.

As a dual citizen I was entitled to cross the border, closed to most Americans because of the pandemic. With an octogenarian father in Calgary who had been largely isolated during the stay-at-home orders, I was willing to submit to Canada’s mandatory two-week quarantine in order to visit.

But my friend’s warning proved prescient. Some concerned residents who fear that the virus will be spread to their communities have been taking matters into their own hands, spurring so many reports of intimidation that the premier of British Columbia, John Horgan, reminded angry Canadians to “Be Calm. Be Kind” at a July 27 news conference.

Addressing those Americans who are in Canada legally, he said: “With respect to those who have offshore plates and are feeling harassed, I would suggest perhaps public transit. I would suggest that they get their plates changed. I would suggest that they ride a bike.”

Before the pandemic, when Americans could choose most any country in the world to travel, Canada was their second most popular foreign destination, behind only Mexico. Lured by the proximity, advantageous exchange rate and safety of their northern neighbor, in the first six months of last year, U.S. residents made 10.5 million trips to Canada, the highest level in 12 years, according to Statistics Canada, a government agency.

But the welcome mat was rolled up on March 31, when the border between the two countries was closed to tourists.

That hasn’t kept some Americans from trying, however. Many are routinely turned away at border crossings, while others have chosen to go sightseeing instead of taking the most direct route to Alaska as required of those driving from the Lower 48 — even though violators face possible fines, jail or even being banned from Canada.

There were so many interlopers that on July 31, Canada began limiting which crossings along the border with the United States can be used by foreign nationals who are allowed to transit through the country for nondiscretionary purposes. It is also requiring them to register, and making them display a hang tag on their rear view mirror with a mandatory departure date. The crackdown comes even though the number of tickets issued was just a fraction of the number of reports coming in to Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

In the province of Alberta, for instance, there were no tickets issued to American motorists in April, May or July, and only nine tickets issued in June, all in Banff National Park, said Cpl. Tammy Keibel, a spokeswoman for the RCMP in Southern Alberta. The federal police force didn’t start recording complaints about international license plates until June 17, but there were 53 reports in the entire province between June 17 and June 29, and 121 between July 1 and July 28, she said.

The province’s most troublesome scofflaw thus far is a fellow from Alaska who was so determined to enjoy Banff with a woman from Calgary that he’d met online that he was issued two of the June tickets. His identity hasn’t yet been released, Keibel said.

His downfall, like that of many others, was precipitated by concerned citizens, not authorities. The Alaska plates on his truck were spotted June 25 during one of the regular parking lot sweeps that the Rimrock Resort Hotel in Banff conducts. Video footage was reviewed to confirm the driver’s identity, and he was questioned in his room. When he was unable to show that he had complied with quarantine laws, the police were called, said Trevor Long, the Rimrock’s general manager.

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by Anonymousreply 227August 16, 2020 12:25 AM

Since the border closed four months ago, only four other guests have been questioned about their plates. One was an American who had been in Canada since before the border restrictions, another was in the military and said he was an essential worker. The other two were let off with a warning.

The Alaskan, however, proved a “challenging fellow” who thought “this whole pandemic was a farce,” according to Long. He was issued an $870 ticket under the Alberta Public Health Act and instructed to leave town the following day.

Instead, the couple showed up for their massages the next morning.

“He was a little bit irritated that we said, ‘No, you’re not allowed to have your spa appointment,’” Long said.

The pair then drove to the Banff Gondola, a popular tourist destination, where the Alaska license again prompted someone to call the RCMP.

The couple was intercepted at the summit and he was charged with violating the federal Quarantine Act and faces up to six months in prison and an additional fine of up to $560,000 if convicted. A patrol car escorted them out of town, though Keibel didn’t know if the man from Alaska had left Canada, nor whether he’d be required to return for his November court date.

On a sunny day in late July, I drove around the Banff area and looked at an estimated 200 cars. Only one was from the United States, a Toyota Prius from California parked at Johnson Lake. Well, that one, and mine. And it didn’t take long for someone to notice my Colorado plates.

“Hey, how’d you get across the border?” a guy on a beater bike called to me as I was parked at the corner of Buffalo and Bear streets. When I told him I was a citizen, he retreated. “I was just wondering,” he said, cautioning that some locals get furious when they see U.S. plates.

These local efforts aren’t confined to Canada. In Hawaii, a group with more than 5,600 volunteers called the Hawai’i Quarantine Kapu Breakers works to track people breaking the mandatory two-week quarantine for visitors to the islands. The quarantine law, which will be in effect until at least Sept. 1, carries a possible $5,000 fine and up to a year in jail.

Angela Keen, who is running the sleuthing posse, said it has helped bring 45 people to the attention of the authorities, including the leader of a countercultural group called Carbon Nation and 20 of his followers. The leader, Eligio Bishop, pleaded no contest in June to breaking quarantine rules and was sentenced to 90 days in jail. His sentence was suspended and the charges against his followers were dropped when they agreed to return to the mainland.

In New York, where visitors from many states are asked to quarantine for two weeks, there have been more than 1,400 complaints to the state’s COVID-19 Enforcement Task Force regarding possible violators, according to Caitlin Girouard, a spokeswoman for Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo. That doesn’t include complaints to local health departments. Girouard did not know how many tickets had been issued under the order, which carries fines of up to $10,000 if a person causes “harm.”

The maximum penalty in Canada is far higher, with the possibility of up to three years in prison and a $750,000 fine for someone who willfully causes harm to another.

Among Canada’s citizen detectives are those spurred on by the Canada Border Services Agency.

Some who live on Vancouver Island have taken to monitoring boat traffic to see who turns off their vessel’s automatic identification transponder, which is required to be on at all times. When they notice a craft has gone dark, they assume it’s trespassing and report it to the RCMP. Two American boaters have each been fined $738 under Canada’s federal Quarantine Act. One reportedly misstated his intentions to sail to Alaska, while the other was a whale-watching vessel that had crossed the border from Washington.

by Anonymousreply 1August 9, 2020 4:31 AM

The big fines and possible prison sentences are meant to be a serious deterrent. Despite the loss of revenue from American tourists, Long, who is also president of the Banff & Lake Louise Hospitality Association, said he doesn’t know a single person who wants the current restrictions to relax.

“We are very reliant on the American traveler. It makes a huge impact on the economy,” he said. “But we are ready to continue taking the hit until things get better around the world.”

Other Canadians speak of the situation with less restraint. “It makes me angry and it frightens me because Canada is obviously doing its level best, mostly successfully, to keep our country as safe as possible and our numbers low,” said Tamara B., of Calgary, who asked that her last name not be used. “You’d have to be living in a cave for the last six months to not know what the situation is down there” in the United States.

I could understand her fear of getting COVID-19. I’d been nervous about the increased risk of contracting the virus while traveling and expected that the stressful part of my trip would be the 16-hour drive from Colorado to Calgary. Or maybe the quarantine.

But my friend in Colorado with the warning about car damage was right. Besides the fear of getting sick, the real stress is parking a vehicle with American plates, and hoping that nobody notices them.

by Anonymousreply 2August 9, 2020 4:32 AM

[quote] We are very reliant on the American traveler. It makes a huge impact on the economy

Lets remember this when the border opens back up.

Fuck Canada! Boycott their asses.

by Anonymousreply 3August 9, 2020 4:34 AM

Are they allowed in OUR country?

I hope not. We don't want them here, either.

Nasty, ugly people.

by Anonymousreply 4August 9, 2020 4:35 AM

I suppose if the shoe were on the other foot you'd just shoot us.

Seriously, we have no right to protect the health of our country from the idiots in yours?

I look at R4, R3 and have to ask, really, who the fuck do you people think you are? What entitles you to wander the world at will? Why are there not consequences to the mess in your own country?

From Canada, a very polite: GO FUCK YOURSELVES IF THAT'S YOUR ATTITUDE.

by Anonymousreply 5August 9, 2020 4:37 AM

No matter what, in the end, if you're American, you're really a MAGA at heart.

by Anonymousreply 6August 9, 2020 4:38 AM

I don"t blame Canadians a bit

by Anonymousreply 7August 9, 2020 4:41 AM

Canadians are showing their true colors.

The wall should be built on the US-Canadian border, not the one with Mexico.

Mexicans are actually nice. Canadians are the real horror show.

by Anonymousreply 8August 9, 2020 4:46 AM

R8 are you fucking serious?

what part of IT'S A FUCKING PANDEMIC do people not understand?

by Anonymousreply 9August 9, 2020 4:50 AM

Like always, asshole Americans ruin it for everybody.

by Anonymousreply 10August 9, 2020 5:22 AM

It's hard for me to imagine Canadians being nasty. They're always so nice whenever I've visited. It sucks not being able to go :( I miss you, Canada!

by Anonymousreply 11August 9, 2020 5:40 AM

BC residents aren’t just damaging to American plated vehicles. There are plenty of reports of Albertans having their vehicles damaged. One Alberta woman had the lug nuts on her SUV removed, and lost a tire in the highway. She said she was lucky to escape with no injury, although her car was badly damaged.

by Anonymousreply 12August 9, 2020 5:49 AM

I spent a week in Toronto last summer (I live in NYC). I was stupidly expecting everyone to be nice because you know “Canadians are so nice!”

What a shock to the system.

Rudest city I’ve ever been to. Nasty retail workers. Aggressive drivers. People pushing in front of you on the street.

Made NY seem like a bunch of sweethearts.

I was the idiot to assume all Canadians are nice, but damn, Toronto proved me wrong.

And what an unattractive city also (people wise).

Montreal on the other hand... people couldn’t have been friendlier. Great style too. Would go back there in a second (post-COVID).

by Anonymousreply 13August 9, 2020 5:51 AM

Canadians in general are boring and passive aggressive. However, I do understand the need to keep us out for their own health and safety. Americans are not allowed anywhere except for the places you wouldn't want to go anyway.

by Anonymousreply 14August 9, 2020 6:49 AM

47% of Torontonians are foreign born r13. I’m not anti immigrant but I notice the difference in manners, such as blocking shopping aisles, aggressive driving, littering. I could go on.

by Anonymousreply 15August 9, 2020 6:54 AM

Then they need to take Ryan Reynolds and Seth Rogen back.

by Anonymousreply 16August 9, 2020 6:57 AM

R15 Or maybe you're just not comfortable admitting yet that you're anti-immigrant :) It's OK. You'll get there in a few years.

by Anonymousreply 17August 9, 2020 7:00 AM

Is this why our favorite Canadian/American couple Connor & Miles are being kept apart?

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by Anonymousreply 18August 9, 2020 7:02 AM

Toronto is very rude. Very passive aggressive, entitled and miserable.

I know, because I live in Toronto.

by Anonymousreply 19August 9, 2020 7:02 AM

Nope r17. I am married to an immigrant, one with impeccable manners. (Better than mine.)

by Anonymousreply 20August 9, 2020 7:07 AM

[quote]It's hard for me to imagine Canadians being nasty.

Charlottesville was not that long ago. Many of the most influential white supremacist are not American, they are Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 21August 9, 2020 7:09 AM

It's going to be a very tough realization for a lot of Americans to come to that most people from other countries are taking serious steps to properly deal with the COVID-19 pandemic and they don't want you in their countries.

And they don't want Americans to enter their borders because Americans are not taking the pandemic seriously for many reasons - mostly because of your hopelessly divided political situation and negligent populace and unfortunately they have lumped you all in the same basket. Also - it won't just be Canada. Canada is just the first country that is being noticed.

If anything good can come out of this, the realization that things have gotten this bad should spark some deep introspection but most Americans are so stupid/self-obsessed that they don't know the meaning of the word. Easy to see that by the posts in this thread. So that will never happen.

It's going to be even worse if Trump wins in November because America will have made a crystal clear statement to the entire world about a multitude of things.

by Anonymousreply 22August 9, 2020 7:16 AM

[quote] It's going to be a very tough realization for a lot of Americans to come to that most people from other countries are taking serious steps to properly deal with the COVID-19 pandemic and they don't want you in their countries.

Fine.

But don't expect a warm welcome from Americans when the border opens back up.

Because we'll remember what total assholes you were to us, and we'll repay the favor.

Personally, I feel like we should close OUR borders to everyone, and tell other countries to go fuck themselves. They certainly need us more than we need them.

by Anonymousreply 23August 9, 2020 8:48 AM

Don’t you think you’re exhibiting entitlement r23? You have a pandemic sweeping your country, among others. Many of your countrymen aren’t taking this pandemic seriously. Our healthcare system would not cope were infection rates to spike again.

Canadians cannot cross into the US, either, so it’s a two way street.

by Anonymousreply 24August 9, 2020 9:25 AM

[quote]Seriously, we have no right to protect the health of our country from the idiots in yours?

Absolutely, but the "concerned citizens" narking on everyone they see with a US license plate sound exactly like the same low-class busybody concerned citizens we have in the U.S. We recognize the behavior. Let's not pretend like these people are heroes or anything.

by Anonymousreply 25August 9, 2020 9:49 AM

We Canadians are not even sure that the US will exist in its current form post-November so this discussion is moot. In fact, I think we should seal off that border even more to prevent a wave of American illegal immigration at that time.

by Anonymousreply 26August 9, 2020 11:23 AM

So many trolls, so little time

by Anonymousreply 27August 9, 2020 11:44 AM

R23 is the reason why the phrase "ugly American" was coined: a loud mouthed jack ass pulling shit from his filthy dirty, unwiped hole. Just like our President.

by Anonymousreply 28August 9, 2020 11:52 AM

And stay oot!

by Anonymousreply 29August 9, 2020 12:02 PM

I’m sick of hearing about how stupid and selfish Americans are and that we deserve everything coming to us (expressed with glee). Everyone where I live wears masks in public, cleans and disinfects, and hasn't been to crowded places for months. This is not the wrath of God punishing Americans. It’s a virus. Stop being so puritanical and self-righteous.

by Anonymousreply 30August 9, 2020 12:04 PM

R19... me too and I agree 1000% per cent. The only thing about Torontonians truly share with New Yorkers is we can be real jerks. This city hardens you. Life is expensive, moving around is a nightmare, local politics is dysfunctional in its ability to get much meaningful done but successful in its ability to drive people apart (though not on an American scale... more than have generally take the I can't be bothered while the have nots sort of struggle along, somewhere between resigned and resentful.) But the work is here. One thing I do envy Americans is there are so many mid sized cities where opportunities for work exist that can offer less expensive, stressful living.

R23, you don't make any sense. We'll get our revenge because you were so rude about not letting us into your comparatively COVID free country because we couldn't get our shit together and would barely try. Okay.....

R25, we don't. You're right about that. And there are plenty of Canadeplorables to go around here. Won't deny it.

R30, I don't think that. If any, I feel a mix of revulsion and pity. Revulsion at the paralysis your politics imposes on your safety. Pity because you're trapped in this.

But as to puritanical and self-righteous, you can't deny there's a robust enthusiasm in America for the credit you feel you deserve. Remarks in the puritanical and self-righteous vain may be in part reaping what's been sown. How many times have I heard on the board "we saved the world in the second world war", "we create the culture for the world", "we invented everything the world wants", "we are the greatest nation on earth." There is truth in all that, but not absolute truth. Few nations feel the need to brag like the U.S. No one should take pleasure in your fate, nonetheless it may be hard for some to feel too sorry for you for a reason.

You're right, though: it's a virus. Whatever your contributions to the world it's not a free pass. Not in this situation.

R29, so LOL!

by Anonymousreply 31August 9, 2020 12:33 PM

I dont blame Canadians one bit. Lot of entitled MAGAts on this thread ... “We’ll remember you were mean to us ... boo hoo”

by Anonymousreply 32August 9, 2020 12:34 PM

Shouldn't someone soon decree this an American board and tell us to get the hell off? We're a bit late on that one, another standard.

by Anonymousreply 33August 9, 2020 12:35 PM

Canadians: If Americans are illegally crossing your border, you should do what Americans do with illegals: arrest them and throw them into concentration camps, never to be seen or heard from again.

by Anonymousreply 34August 9, 2020 12:48 PM

R21 Is Charlottesville really a....thing? It's mark in time for you? There's a before and after Charlottesville? Is this an event you remember yearly?

Are you fucking serious?

Lemme 'splain something to you 'bout what happened:

1. There was a bunch of far-right individuals who rallied around an immutable characteristic in some shit town.

2. There was a bunch of far-left individuals, who ALWAYS rally around immutable characteristics, but "NO LIKEY" the far-right's immutable characteristic in this shit town.

3. The two groups of stooges clashed because that's what stooges do.

4. Some forgotten frau became a hood ornament.

That's it. Nothing else here to see or remember. All you're doing is worshiping stooges.

by Anonymousreply 35August 9, 2020 12:49 PM

[quote]Canadians in general are boring and passive aggressive. However, I do understand the need to keep us out for their own health and safety.

You type kinda Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 36August 9, 2020 12:54 PM

The internet warrior/keyboard jockey/Cadet Bone Spurs worshipper @R35 has concocted quite a verbal diarrhea.

That forgotten hood ornament frau has more courage coursing through her dead body that you've managed to muster in your entire miserable existence, you fucking little worthless piece of shit weasel.

by Anonymousreply 37August 9, 2020 12:55 PM

[quote]Let's not pretend like these people are heroes or anything.

If their "narking" leads to infected foreigners being ousted from the country and thereby preventing local outbreaks, they are indeed heroes.

by Anonymousreply 38August 9, 2020 12:55 PM

Apropos of nothing, I find Canadians a bit freaky deaky. Maybe not as extreme as the Germans or the Dutch, but every Canadian guy I've hooked up with had some kind of kink.

by Anonymousreply 39August 9, 2020 12:57 PM

Good for Canada!

I wouldn't let stupid "It's my constitutional right to kill folks by not wearing a mask, ya'll!" Americans in America if I could.

We are a willfully ignorant country that deserves to be shunned.

by Anonymousreply 40August 9, 2020 12:58 PM

Americans, collectively, have the emotional maturity of eleven-year-olds (and that's being generous).

It's like we're constantly taunting the rest of world with "Na na na boo boo; we're not wearing masks and you can't make us!"

Trump is the embodiment of this sentiment.

by Anonymousreply 41August 9, 2020 1:00 PM

R23 - you're rather dense. All I have to do is look at the US letting things like Sturgis go on to know that I don't want Americans coming here. Your death rate is twice ours. Your country is a shit hole run by a shithead dictator, who'll probably end up winning in November again because, you know, Murica. I get that there are parts of the US doing their part by wearing masks, etc., but unfortunately it's outweighed by things like the selfish Sturgis goers. So for the sake of everyone's health - yeah - stay in your own fucking country.

by Anonymousreply 42August 9, 2020 1:02 PM

I wish R23 would share further thoughts, considering the feedback.

by Anonymousreply 43August 9, 2020 1:26 PM

I only know Canada through ' Schitt's creek ' and it seems that young Canadians are HAWT and also all pansexuals. Doesn't look bad to me.

by Anonymousreply 44August 9, 2020 1:32 PM

R23 is like a cock roach: once you shine a light on it, it goes scurrying back to the shithole it crawled out of.

by Anonymousreply 45August 9, 2020 1:32 PM

R23 Bus your table!

by Anonymousreply 46August 9, 2020 1:39 PM

I think it's funny that Americans are essentially being told to "go back where they came from." Serves them right! And you just know that any of them who are crossing the border during a fucking pandemic and lying to customs about their reason to visit are Trumpers. Guess what, cunts, you're not wanted.

by Anonymousreply 47August 9, 2020 1:40 PM

This is a personal tale of woe about this situation ... very insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but tragic within my own life.

In the 1970s, my (American) family purchased some land on a lake in Northern Ontario and built a cottage. My mom, her parents, and her two brothers all contributed to the effort. I was born in the early 1980s and spent a month of every summer at the lake with my parents, aunts and uncles, and cousins -- or any conglomeration of the above. It was a very special place to me, and it was a very special place for my mom. Her dad died in the mid-1980s, her older brother died (young) in the 1990s, and her mom died in the 2000s. She associated the cottage with her family, with her childhood (they'd been going to the lake since the early 1960s and staying in a fishing camp). Cottages are strange places. They have a way of freezing time, and when I go up there, it feels like I'm surrounded by the ghosts and memories of the past.

My mom has had early-onset Alzheimer's for about five years. She's in her mid-60s now. She has been able to continue to visit the cottage, although every year she can do less and less there. Now she mostly sits in the cottage and looks out at the lake, or wanders to the blueberry patch and picks berries. But she still loves it, and it remains very important to her. It triggers memories in a way other things and places no longer do.

My greatest fear is that she'll decline between now and summer 2021 and never be able to visit the cottage again before she dies, all due to COVID. Again ... not significant in the grand scheme of things right now, as our world falls apart. But it breaks my heart just a little.

by Anonymousreply 48August 9, 2020 1:51 PM

Now that is sad and a shame, R48. I feel bad for people in those situations, (I heard a similar story about an American man with cancer who has a cottage at Lake of the Woods), I hope it all works out for your family.

by Anonymousreply 49August 9, 2020 1:57 PM

Thanks r49

by Anonymousreply 50August 9, 2020 1:59 PM

I don’t blame Canada at all. Are you kidding with this? Why would they allow Americans over right now? It’s illogical given the numbers????

But I do maintain Toronto is even ruder than NYC. Maybe because the weather gets colder that gives them the extra edge?

Honestly shocking that people here think it’s unfair Canadians are trying to keep COVID out of their country.

by Anonymousreply 51August 9, 2020 2:51 PM

Meh, R51, everyone in other parts of Canada know that Toronto isn't the friendliest part of the country. If you want genuine kindness and friendliness, you have to get out of Toronto and head to other areas across the country, especially the Maritimes/Atlantic provinces.

by Anonymousreply 52August 9, 2020 2:54 PM

R48... check with border services or go through the U.S. embassy for help. As property owners, and maybe given the circumstances, admission would be granted on a compassionate basis? You'd have to agree to the quarantine provisions and apparently they do check pretty strictly, but that doesn't sound difficult in your case.

by Anonymousreply 53August 9, 2020 2:55 PM

Good idea, R53. I second that, R48.

by Anonymousreply 54August 9, 2020 2:58 PM

When Saks opened in Toronto I went in because I can afford it. Spent twenty minutes on the men's floor, plainly looking for something, and came across a belt locked under glass. There were about half a dozen shop boys standing in a semi circle, on their devices. Nothing. So I thought, fuck it. Walked across the section to the escalator, turned around and bellowed: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP! Shop boys do jazz hands and sneers.

I was so pissed off I emailed the GM. Saks had just opened and I'd been to the store in Manhattan a couple times and was treated the way you'd treat somebody when your business is selling stuff. They didn't fall all over me but we helpful and courteous and it surprised me a bit when I was new to Saks. At any rate we have menswear chain the country called Harry Rosen, which is equivalent in lines carried. So I told Saks: If I want attitude, I can keep shopping Rosen, they've been perfecting bad attitude for fifty years. They offered me a personal shopper, which I declined. I just said I don't want my ass kissed, just a reasonably courteous experience and I doubt you're paying the boys to be eyes down on their phones.

Now I know I won't remember this on my death bed but it's typical Toronto when you're seeing the city criticized. I cannot wait to retire elsewhere. Bleh.

by Anonymousreply 55August 9, 2020 3:02 PM

Thanks for the suggestion r53/r54.

Unfortunately, since no one has been up since last fall, the cottage was never opened this year (waterline in, etc). I think our neighbors have been cutting the grass, though.

At this point, it's probably too impractical (and too late in the summer) to go up -- although I do love September/October at the lake. I'm an academic and our semester starts earlier than scheduled this year. While everything is online, I myself need to by physically present and within the vicinity of campus to teach effectively this semester.

If she declines this winter, we can always go up in the spring and stay in a hotel; but I am crossing my fingers for a real visit next summer.

by Anonymousreply 56August 9, 2020 3:04 PM

R23 arrives on cue to demonstrate EXACTLY what I was talking about.

Here are a couple of cold, hard facts for you R23:

1. We don't want to come to America. Not now, and not for a long time. It's not just the COVID-19 thing...

2. No we don't need you. That's all in your head. And we have all been making contingency plans as we desert you and leave you to your inevitable implosion.

3. We do not want you in our countries until you have taken serious steps to get your "situation" under control.

Also - I'm not Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 57August 9, 2020 3:06 PM

Ha, now Americans know how the Mexicans feel.

by Anonymousreply 58August 9, 2020 3:13 PM

Geeze so many self-hating Americans. Get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 59August 9, 2020 3:14 PM

Stupid Americans, (I said stupid, certainly not ALL Americans) think that the rest of the world hates them because of Trump but in reality, people have hated them for a long, long time. Again, we don't hate the nice, friendly Americans, (never have) - just the loud, boorish, uneducated "U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A." type 'Muricans.

by Anonymousreply 60August 9, 2020 3:16 PM

[quote] I wouldn't let stupid "It's my constitutional right to kill folks by not wearing a mask, ya'll!" Americans in America if I could.

Did you read the original NYT article, dumbass? This person has dual citizenship, and so is completely entitled to visit Canada.

Yet they are being attacked because of their US license plates.

[quote] spurring so many reports of intimidation that the premier of British Columbia, John Horgan, reminded angry Canadians to “Be Calm. Be Kind” at a July 27 news conference.

[quote] Addressing those Americans who are in Canada legally, he said: “With respect to those who have offshore plates and are feeling harassed, I would suggest perhaps public transit. I would suggest that they get their plates changed. I would suggest that they ride a bike.”

Perfect example of Canadian passive-agressiveness. And yes, NASTY.

[quote] Your country is a shit hole run by a shithead dictator

Two words for you: ROB FORD.

[quote] 1. We don't want to come to America. Not now, and not for a long time. It's not just the COVID-19 thing...'

Bullshit. There are almost 1,000,000 Canadians living in the United States. That's like 1 out of every 37 people in Canada, living in the fucking U.S.

So shut your pie hole.

2. No we don't need you. That's all in your head. And we have all been making contingency plans as we desert you and leave you to your inevitable implosion.

Tell that to NAFTA.

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by Anonymousreply 61August 9, 2020 3:17 PM

[quote] Two words for you: ROB FORD.

So Rob Ford was the dictator of Canada, R61?

by Anonymousreply 62August 9, 2020 3:18 PM

Rob Ford, who needs no introduction, was Barak Obama compared to Donald Trump.

by Anonymousreply 63August 9, 2020 3:20 PM

lol, Rob Ford wasn't a federal leader, idiot, R61.

by Anonymousreply 64August 9, 2020 3:21 PM

Everybody - hate each other! Conflict! Violence!

by Anonymousreply 65August 9, 2020 3:22 PM

You do understand, R61, that NAFTA... oh, never mind. I'm shutting my pie hole. Everything about you is so convincing. In the American way.

by Anonymousreply 66August 9, 2020 3:22 PM

[quote] 2. No we don't need you. That's all in your head. And we have all been making contingency plans as we desert you and leave you to your inevitable implosion.

Right. You've just been "borrowing" from American culture for the past 200 years.

Does Canada even have its own identity? Most people around the world just consider Canada to be a territory of the U.S.

As for our "inevitable implosion," that's hilarious. If the US ever fell, Canada would be taken over by Russia and China in two seconds flat.

Let's see: China has something like 1.4 billion people. Russia has 144,000,000 people. Canada has 37,000,000 people.

You do the math.

Canada has been relying upon us for protection, for over 200 years. Without us, you'd be speaking Chinese or Russian. DEARS.

by Anonymousreply 67August 9, 2020 3:23 PM

[quote] This person has dual citizenship, and so is completely entitled to visit Canada.

Yes, and plenty of people who are entitled to be in the US are threatened and harassed every single day and told to leave, go back where they came from and so on.

Idiot, @R67. Your reading comprehension must be very low, the poster you are quoting isn't Canadian. Very typical of a poorly educated, ugly American. Your own people hate people like you.

by Anonymousreply 68August 9, 2020 3:26 PM

Why was that little shit Shawn Mendes allowed to quarantine in Miami? That homophobic closet-case should have been deported back to Ontario a long time ago. Same with Justin Bieber.

by Anonymousreply 69August 9, 2020 3:29 PM

We need your protection, R67?? The last time we fought, we kicked your asses and burned down your White House (yes, I know, it was Great Britain not Canada technically). You sound like a Trumper. I suppose without the Americans in WW2, the whole world would be speaking German too? Am I right??

by Anonymousreply 70August 9, 2020 3:31 PM

I think that Canada has a lot more in common with the UK than with the USA.

by Anonymousreply 71August 9, 2020 3:32 PM

In all honesty, we have more in common with EU countries and the UK, culturally, ideologically, and in terms of the level of the awareness of the need for a social system based on civic discourse, and I'm all for forging stronger ties with them and phasing out our reliance on America as much as possible.

by Anonymousreply 72August 9, 2020 3:32 PM

[quote] Why was that little shit Shawn Mendes allowed to quarantine in Miami? That homophobic closet-case should have been deported back to Ontario a long time ago. Same with Justin Bieber.

That's the difference between the U.S. and Canada.

The U.S. has a "big city" mindset. We don't care about other peoples' comings-and-goings. We mind our own business.

Canada has a small town mentality. Always in your business, gossiping about you, and spreading nasty rumors.

That said, we should start a task force to evict Canadians from the U.S., tout de suite.

by Anonymousreply 73August 9, 2020 3:35 PM

What R67 fails to mention is that America has already been subjugated by Russia. Our country is not governed by Putin's assets. So, yes, we are doing quite fine without your "protection" (you should focus on the one your "democracy" desperately needs.)

by Anonymousreply 74August 9, 2020 3:36 PM

Really, R73? Americans mind their own business? That's rich.

by Anonymousreply 75August 9, 2020 3:37 PM

I find the opposite to be true, r73. Americans are always in each other's business, with the possible exception of New Englanders, who are a different breed.

Canadians seem much more private to me, and more "live and let live."

by Anonymousreply 76August 9, 2020 3:39 PM

Oh, poor Americans. Cause they totally didn't do ten times worse things to Asians and Asian-Americans when the pandemic started happening

by Anonymousreply 77August 9, 2020 3:40 PM

[Quote] if you're American, you're really a MAGA at heart.

Sad but true.

by Anonymousreply 78August 9, 2020 3:40 PM

This thread is proof of how very nasty and rude Canadians can be.

Who knew?

The rumors of them being "nice," is total bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 79August 9, 2020 3:41 PM

R73 "The U.S. has a "big city" mindset. We don't care about other peoples' comings-and-goings. We mind our own business." That's the funniest, and by funniest I mean dumbest, thing I've read here in a long time

by Anonymousreply 80August 9, 2020 3:42 PM

Poor, R79.

by Anonymousreply 81August 9, 2020 3:43 PM

Poor R79. Canadians being mean to you. You deserve it. Notice it's you generating the mean responses and not lovely posters like R48?

by Anonymousreply 82August 9, 2020 3:47 PM

Yeah Canadians being nicer is a myth. Maybe the nice Canadians are the ones who come to America. And nasty bitches stay up there.

And while they are right to close the borders presently this general hatred from Canadian posters for America is quite enlightening. Especially since I agree - they seem to come over to America quite a bit when it suits their needs?

Let’s just send all the Canadians back home permanently? Eventually COVID will end and they can all just stay up north enjoying their Tim Hortons and their below freezing temperatures. And their moose. What else is even up there?

I do love Montreal though. Magical place.

by Anonymousreply 83August 9, 2020 3:49 PM

I don’t blame the Canadians one bit for not wanting Americans in.

They’ve gone through all the restrictions and as a result have limited the disease.

Now a bunch of selfish, entitled, lazy people, many of whom, in defiance of all logic, have politicized what is a public health issue, want to barge into their country, disease-ridden? I’d key the cars too — and I’m an American. .

by Anonymousreply 84August 9, 2020 3:49 PM

I wish the US would do this with the anti-mask Karens.

by Anonymousreply 85August 9, 2020 3:53 PM

[quote]And while they are right to close the borders presently this general hatred from Canadian posters for America is quite enlightening

As opposed to the deep and mutual respect shown by Americans to Canada?

If I had a dollar for every Canada is boring post on this site. You people are so full of shit it's astonishing. Do I wish you dead by your own hubris? No. But the thing about discussing America and the rest of the world is it really can't be discussed. It's like Christmas with the whole family... one wrong word and the whole, dysfunctional truth comes out while the fantasy of happy family dies. America is the bigoted, drunk Dad or Uncle everybody around whom everybody walks on eggshells. All but a very few of you can handle the facts about the reputation America has built for itself.

Cue the Yankee Doodle reflex.

by Anonymousreply 86August 9, 2020 3:54 PM

Respect the laws. You can't go there. There have been a lot of issues with American boats going up to Vancouver. And a lot of assholes saying they're going to Alaska, but don't.

No sympathy. If Canada had an extreme outbreak and we closed our borders, you think Americans wouldn't be freaking out? Of course they would.

The dual-citizenship guy is an outlier. Most of these are just entitled asshole Americans who don't want to abide by any rules.

by Anonymousreply 87August 9, 2020 3:59 PM

CBC just interviewed this journalist from the LA Times. He seems like a lovely man, he's here and obeying all quarantine laws, and he's more than welcome.

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by Anonymousreply 88August 9, 2020 4:02 PM

Lololol R86 - GOT IT. So stay in Canada then. If you think America is so horrible and the drunk uncle, once the pandemic ends, stay up there with your moose and your Tim Hortons.

What’s annoying me is all the Canadians who have lived in America for YEARS working and making money here and basically being fine with everything and now they are back in Canada all self righteous and superior posting on social media.

We get it. America is a nightmare right now. But eventually shit will change and you will come crawling back.

by Anonymousreply 89August 9, 2020 4:04 PM

It's people like you, R89, that make me think that Americans deserve Trump and all the fallout he creates.

by Anonymousreply 90August 9, 2020 4:09 PM

How DARE anyone try to keep Americans (from the USA) from entering any country we want. Don’t you know who we are.

Keep your entitled attitude in check, USA!

by Anonymousreply 91August 9, 2020 4:10 PM

Why, R90? Because R89 speaks the truth?

Well the truth hurts, doesn't it?

by Anonymousreply 92August 9, 2020 4:11 PM

[quote]What’s annoying me is all the Canadians who have lived in America for YEARS working and making money here and basically being fine with everything and now they are back in Canada all self righteous and superior posting on social media.

So, R89, I assume they were there under approved immigration policies and I'm wondering what you base the assumption on that they suddenly upped stakes and came back when you lost control of the disease. Or embraced it. Still trying to figure out exactly what America's strategy is.

You're obviously a product of all the money the states spend on strong public education.

Another story. Canadian friend of mine, centre right, who fits your bill, his dream was to live in the States. Got a job in New York, a place in Connecticut and lived through the insanity of the Obama health care election and the school shooting. Nothing like a school full of dead five year olds and a national fetish for guns above life to make you reassess how your dream is working out for you. He got another job - in Germany. Another country where the virus is being addressed competently.

And FWIW, the only part of the country I set foot in is a small part of Vermont I visit annually and the part of New York State I have to drive through to get there. If I didn't have such personal regard for the Vermonters I know there, and how rely in income from the place I stay, trust me, I'd happily never set foot in your failed state again. It's Europe all the way. It's a lot less like you.

by Anonymousreply 93August 9, 2020 4:13 PM

Well, R92, if R89 speaks the truth, then I suppose all Americans who live and vacation in Canada should leave and never return too. Tit for tat as they say, and I believe there's over half a million ex pat Americans here. If the US is so superior, then they should head back home.

by Anonymousreply 94August 9, 2020 4:16 PM

R94, I wonder they ever left. Leaving your guns behind... Sophie's choice...

by Anonymousreply 95August 9, 2020 4:17 PM

Just a few years ago I went to Canada for a wedding. When I got into the cab. I told the cabbie I was American there for a wedding. He started just asking all this stupid questions. Why are Americans so fat? Why are you guys so violent? Just totally ragging on Americans. Finally had enough. Made it to stop the cab. Paid him his money. Said Why don't you go f*** yourself. End up walking the rest of the way to my hotel with my suitcases. But it gave me time to cool off and the rest of my trip was nice.

by Anonymousreply 96August 9, 2020 4:18 PM

When shit changes, they'll need the Canadians. Half their country will be dead. They'll need us to buy things.

by Anonymousreply 97August 9, 2020 4:18 PM

R96, when I was hiking in New Hampshire I met a guy who wanted to know what I thought of his heroes, guns and Trump. Cuts both ways.

by Anonymousreply 98August 9, 2020 4:19 PM

So, R96, he asked things that DLers mention when talking about deplorables/flyover states?

by Anonymousreply 99August 9, 2020 4:21 PM

Oh, ouch. Taken in his own trap R99.

Well played.

by Anonymousreply 100August 9, 2020 4:23 PM

Good for Canada. The U.S. deserves to be treated like the pariah nation we’ve allowed ourselves to become.

by Anonymousreply 101August 9, 2020 4:26 PM

The OUTRAGE of the Canadians here just tickles me.

FWIW, I 100% agree with the policy of keeping Americans out right now.

But this self-righteous Canadian OUTRAGE about how horrible Americans are notwithstanding the COVID situation is quite something.

And the notion that Americans will be chomping at the bit to all vacation in Canada post-COVID.

Just not seeing it.

We have moose in Wyoming.

by Anonymousreply 102August 9, 2020 4:30 PM

[quote] We have moose in Wyoming.

And we also have passive aggressive assholes and cunts in NY and LA.

We don't have to go all the way to Vancouver and Toronto, to experience it.

by Anonymousreply 103August 9, 2020 4:33 PM

Then why are so many of you sneaking across the border, R102? This would be a non-story if your fellow Americans weren't lying to get in.

by Anonymousreply 104August 9, 2020 4:33 PM

[quote] The U.S. has a "big city" mindset. We don't care about other peoples' comings-and-goings. We mind our own business.

You had a sister-fucking hick militia that shot people who crossed the border. Seems like you care about people's comings and goings.

by Anonymousreply 105August 9, 2020 4:34 PM

And we have a Tim Horton’s in Penn Station.

by Anonymousreply 106August 9, 2020 4:34 PM

It's DAN LEVY 'S BIRTHDAY TODAY !!! 👍 🎉🎊👏😛✨

by Anonymousreply 107August 9, 2020 4:34 PM

Yeah I really want to go traveling right now. But, Canada. Thanks, but no thanks. Harry and his boring wife didn't even want to stay there.

by Anonymousreply 108August 9, 2020 4:34 PM

Literally lol ^^^^^ the Dan Levy stalker emerges!

by Anonymousreply 109August 9, 2020 4:35 PM

R107 : He's a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 110August 9, 2020 4:36 PM

So they're trying to keep out the 25 people or so they're trying to get in.

by Anonymousreply 111August 9, 2020 4:36 PM

Good, R108. Now please tell your fellow citizens to stay home too.

by Anonymousreply 112August 9, 2020 4:36 PM

R110 I am pretty sure he's vers

by Anonymousreply 113August 9, 2020 4:37 PM

You better be prepared to stick it in him and not the other way around Frenchie.

by Anonymousreply 114August 9, 2020 4:40 PM

(R112) we can't even get them to stay away from the beaches.

by Anonymousreply 115August 9, 2020 4:40 PM

What did Canada become all snooty like France. I hope more Americans try to get into Canada. Hopefully more from California.

by Anonymousreply 116August 9, 2020 4:43 PM

Frenchie will effectively shut this thread down with the Dan levy VERS/BOTTOM question.

by Anonymousreply 117August 9, 2020 4:44 PM

The only Canadian I give care about is Keanu Reeves.

by Anonymousreply 118August 9, 2020 4:48 PM

Can a guy love a guy ? I don't care if his a total botto. There are no bottoms for me. I can turn a man on. And what are double dildos for ?

by Anonymousreply 119August 9, 2020 4:51 PM

The last ten threads are more what I expect from typical DLers.

America is so awesome. It acts like an asshole, whines went it gets called on it, and then circles the wagons because it's so awesome as long as it only talks to itself. The less of you up here the better off we all are. We're not exposed to you and you can dwell in the fantasy of your kind.

by Anonymousreply 120August 9, 2020 4:53 PM

[quote] America is so awesome. It acts like an asshole, whines went it gets called on it, and then circles the wagons because it's so awesome as long as it only talks to itself. The less of you up here the better off we all are. We're not exposed to you and you can dwell in the fantasy of your kind.

Sorry, but your French to English translator isn't working very well.

Nothing you wrote makes sense.

At least in English, it doesn't.

The Canadian "educational" system must be horrible.

by Anonymousreply 121August 9, 2020 5:00 PM

Try harder, R121. In simple form, America is only happy when no one calls it on its bullshit so it is better off just bragging to fellow Americans.

That make sense of it for you?

by Anonymousreply 122August 9, 2020 5:10 PM

Definitely call America on its bullshit but coming from a bunch of hysterical Canadians who claim that in a post-COVID world they will have anything going on up there aside from cottages and a bunch of moose - it just isn’t that persuasive?

by Anonymousreply 123August 9, 2020 5:13 PM

Another Russian troll thread.

Reason: Create bad feelings between the US and our neighbor to the north.

If by chance there are any Americans on this thread, wise up.

Don't fall for these "Let's get angry at our friends" threads.

Hit the road, Boris and Natasha.

by Anonymousreply 124August 9, 2020 5:21 PM

All you sensitive Americans in this thread need to stop being so defensive. You know if the situation was reversed, you'd want the government doing everything it could to keep Canadians out. I'm American and I don't blame Canada at all for taking this stance. America is a fucking mess under Trump and even I don't want to be here right now.

by Anonymousreply 125August 9, 2020 5:21 PM

[quote] a bunch of hysterical Canadians who claim that in a post-COVID world they will have anything going on up there aside from cottages and a bunch of moose

As opposed to a bunch of consumers who don't produce anything? Get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 126August 9, 2020 5:24 PM

R123 is still under the delusion that the U.S. is still relevant in world affairs.

If the U.S. continues its helpless slide into authoritarian nationalism, while allowing citizens to die in huge numbers because masks are uncomfortable, the rest of the world will simply route around us, like traffic detouring around a car crash.

Once the U.S. departs the world stage, Canada and Europe and China and Japan and Korea and Mexico will get along just fine by trading with each other.

by Anonymousreply 127August 9, 2020 5:28 PM

You are not welcome here, dirty diseases ridden American whores

by Anonymousreply 128August 9, 2020 5:28 PM

Your fine education is showing, R123.

Oil, gold, timber, minerals, and the oil of the next century, if not sooner: fresh water.

"Canada has the tenth-largest economy in the world with a nominal GDP of $1.73 trillion. Canada’s per capita GDP of $46,260.71 is ranked 20th globally while its GDP (PPP) of $1.84 trillion is ranked 17th globally. Canada’s GDP is expected to rise to $2.13 trillion by 2023.

Canada has the fourth-highest estimated value of natural resources of $33.2 trillion. Canada is considered an energy superpower due to its abundant natural resources such as petroleum and natural gas. According to the Corruption Perceptions Index, Canada is one of the least corrupt countries in the world and one of the world’s top ten trading countries.

Canada ranks above the United States on the Index of Economic Freedom and experiences a relatively low level of income disparity."

You're the biggest economy in the world. We're the 10th.

We outrank you on the Index of Economic Freedom. We're 9th.

You're 17th. Preceded by such leaders as Estonia, Georgia and Lithuania.

So well done you. So much going on down there.

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by Anonymousreply 129August 9, 2020 5:44 PM

But R124, you air so e-c to bait.

by Anonymousreply 130August 9, 2020 5:46 PM

As a Canadian who legally travels to US and back for essential travel, I was going to share my observations but it looks like at least one troll is doing his damndest to exhibit "typical American opinions and attitudes" in over nine posts, so I'll limit my empirical evidence share to this:

Some Americans are being turned back by Canada Border Services if the entrants don't live in Point Roberts, aren't essential workers, and aren't visiting Alaska. Everyone entering Canada must self-isolate for 2 weeks. Most everyone has to complete and submit a self-isolation plan. Who doesn't check countries' border status and entry requirements before driving from Colorado and Michigan to British Columbia? Real good 'Muricans, tell ya what.

Canadians who do not have essential travel exceptions are likewise prevented from entering the US.

by Anonymousreply 131August 9, 2020 6:03 PM

Anyone who uses the term 'Muricans is ignorant.

And someone who would fit right in with those he thinks to apply it to.

by Anonymousreply 132August 9, 2020 6:07 PM

Red White and Flu

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by Anonymousreply 133August 9, 2020 6:08 PM

The America-hating Canadians sure love to visit Disney World and every place in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 134August 9, 2020 6:10 PM

I don't blame them. Imagine if the virus scenario was reversed. America would shut them down.

by Anonymousreply 135August 9, 2020 6:21 PM

My brother lives in Canada for work but his wife is Canadian. Our next conversation should be interesting.

His wife is an avid Dump lover too. She actually thought Sarah Huckabee Sanders was a great press secretary. I don't talk to her much. Shes actually nice, gay friendly and smokes pot and isn't religious so I don't understand where the Trump love comes from. We do not discuss politics. She probably hates Trudeau.

by Anonymousreply 136August 9, 2020 6:27 PM

Americans who can't get into Canada aren't missing much. Toronto in particular is a dystopian hellscape, with Montreal and Vancouver soon to follow (actually, Vancouver's always been pretty awful too).

by Anonymousreply 137August 9, 2020 6:28 PM

[quote]Anyone who uses the term 'Muricans is ignorant.

Pardon my ignorance as a foreigner, but I thought this was just some silly holdover from the George W. Bush era, mocking his pronunciation?

by Anonymousreply 138August 9, 2020 6:53 PM

Lol at the angry Americans on this thread, upset because they can't bring disease and death into another country.

by Anonymousreply 139August 9, 2020 7:04 PM

It’s especially ironic since our alleged “president” incessantly blames the pandemic on a foreign country.

I think the rest of the world should start referring to COVID as “the American virus.”

by Anonymousreply 140August 9, 2020 7:19 PM

Yes that’s a GREAT IDEA r140!!!! Let’s make it even worse for us! Brilliant!!

by Anonymousreply 141August 9, 2020 7:40 PM

If situation was reverse, Americans wouldn't just bent Canadians' license plates or scratch their cars, they would be shooting them in bright daylight, for exposing them to the "chinese virus". So yeah, Canadians are nice, when compared to Muricans

by Anonymousreply 142August 9, 2020 7:41 PM

But R41 it would infuriate Fat Boy. That would be worth it.

by Anonymousreply 143August 9, 2020 7:43 PM

This is such a strange thread. You would think we are all crowding the border by the thousands trying desperately to sneak in.

Americans realize that you can’t go to Canada at this point. You would be turned around by border patrol/customs. This article was about dual citizens.

Also most fool Americans are going on their summer vacations in America. They are all going to their dumb beach houses and lake houses as though nothing is going on. Just a normal summer. The geography isn’t that different - entitled Americans who want to go to a lake house can find that in America.

You Canadians need to f’ing calm down. WE GET IT. We aren’t coming up there. Jesus Christ.

by Anonymousreply 144August 9, 2020 7:46 PM

Stupid, R144. The story about the dual citizen is an outlier. Americans ARE coming up here. They are taking advantage of a loophole which allows Americans to pass through Canada if they are on their way to Alaska.

by Anonymousreply 145August 9, 2020 7:52 PM

How many r145?

This seems like a minor problem considering EVERYTHING else going on in the world.

Don’t flatter yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 146August 9, 2020 8:15 PM

It is a problem, R146. The US is a hotbed for the virus and your fellow citizens are shirking the rules. One infected traveler not following our quarantine rules is enough to destroy the work we've put in over the last few months. Keep your virus to yourselves ffs.

by Anonymousreply 147August 9, 2020 8:19 PM

R147 I have zero intention of sneaking into Canada. I’ve been self-isolating since March. My only trips are to the grocery store and pharmacy and I wear a mask and gloves.

Cool your jets up there ffs.

by Anonymousreply 148August 9, 2020 8:21 PM

Good, R148. Please tell your fellow Americans to do the same.

by Anonymousreply 149August 9, 2020 8:22 PM

R146, a dual citizen crossed into Canada in May or June, didn’t quarantine for 14 days, and was traced as the source of infection for 14 people.

by Anonymousreply 150August 9, 2020 8:34 PM

[quote] According to new figures sent to CTVNews.ca by the CBSA, 10,329 U.S. citizens have been turned away from our shared border between March 22 and July 12. More than a quarter of them were barred from entering after revealing they were coming to Canada to sightsee, despite the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

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by Anonymousreply 151August 9, 2020 8:38 PM
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by Anonymousreply 152August 9, 2020 8:43 PM
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by Anonymousreply 153August 9, 2020 8:46 PM

Holy shit. Alright true - you’ve proved your point.

My god.

by Anonymousreply 154August 9, 2020 9:19 PM

I feel so sorry for everybody turned back. I mean, it's a widely kept secret. It isn't like it was in the news or anything.

by Anonymousreply 155August 9, 2020 9:19 PM

Why would 10,000 America loving Americans even go to horrible, boring, pointless, ungrateful Canada? Didn't they get the memo? Why do they hate America? It's the greatest nation on earth. USA! USA! USA!

by Anonymousreply 156August 9, 2020 9:23 PM

I wasn't lying to you, R154.

by Anonymousreply 157August 9, 2020 9:31 PM

Nasty Americans bringing Covid into Canada

by Anonymousreply 158August 9, 2020 9:34 PM

R144, why did you dismiss the idea so quickly? You're obviously quite surprised its true and the extent of it.

by Anonymousreply 159August 9, 2020 9:43 PM

I am curious to what will happen during the annual snowbird season that will start in October in desert of California and Arizona. How is that going to work? They are used to a generally easy back and forth as they come here, then may drive back for a couple of weeks, then come back down here. What will be the procedure then? Will the Canadians stop their people from crossing over? I think it's going to be pretty interesting in October till May with this.

by Anonymousreply 160August 9, 2020 9:50 PM

r144 here. Yeah. I was being unreasonable. I just can’t believe so many idiots are trying to go into Canada? I guess I *still* underestimate the stupidity of Americans (shocking I know). Like it seems so obvious the border is closed and you cannot go up there - it’s horrible that thousands are doing this and risking giving people COVID. It’s bad enough they keep spreading it to other Americans but to give it to Canada. Damn.

Like I said - I’ve been inside since March pretty much and I guess I assumed on SOME level that so many people wouldn’t be that insane to cross the border.

My god. Sorry Canadians. Any American who gives you COVID should be punished somehow.

Completely Unconscionable.

by Anonymousreply 161August 9, 2020 9:52 PM

R160, it will depend on your government. If Canadians cross the border, they have the right to return to Canada, but must complete a 14 day quarantine upon their return. In the early days of the pandemic people were getting away without quarantining, but those days are over since they are doing random checks on people.

by Anonymousreply 162August 9, 2020 9:56 PM

"I guess I *still* underestimate the stupidity of Americans (shocking I know). "

It is not stupidity. They just don't give a shit. Like their fucking fat fuck hero Trump.

I'm an American.

by Anonymousreply 163August 9, 2020 9:57 PM

R160... the border closure, assuming it stands, is mutual. Cuts both ways. Canadians can't enter the States except for certain exemptions, like dual citizenship. So the snowbirds have to stay home. The border closure as is currently extends until August 21. But it has been extended regularly since the imposition. There was a story in one of the principal national newspapers claiming the Canadian government intends to stretch the closure into 2021.

by Anonymousreply 164August 9, 2020 9:58 PM

[quote]My god. Sorry Canadians. Any American who gives you COVID should be punished somehow.

Well, we're pretty vengeful. I suspect the warm Hi will be replaced by a cooler Hello and you can just forget the how's it goin', eh?

by Anonymousreply 165August 9, 2020 9:59 PM

Yes R163 - you’re right. calling them stupid is giving them too much credit. It’s just complete apathy.

Americans really are the worst.

by Anonymousreply 166August 9, 2020 10:59 PM

I don't know it still doesn't sound like tons of Americans are exactly crushing the borders - in 4 months a little over 10,000(from a country of a 320,000,000) attempted to cross illegally based on the COVID restriction, which averages to about 85 a day along a border that is over 3500 miles long. It's hardly like there are tons and tons of Americans trying to get over there, for all the hatred being expressed by the Canadians in this thread. Especially considering the millions of border crossing which would normally be taking place between the US and Canada.

Sort of like someone mentioned 500,000 American immigrants in Canada, well there are at least 1,000,000 Canadians here which is certainly a higher percentage of the Canadian population here than vice versa. Now that's a smaller percentage of immigrants to the US who are Canadian than the percentage of immigrants to Canada who are American--based on each countries population but still it hardly seems like Americans' are actually beating down down Canada's door in either case.

Yes there are a relatively small number of assholes who are breaking the law but by and large the massive majority of people, who might normally want to visit Canada for a vacation or non-essential business trip, in a normal year, are NOT trying to go from the US into Canada against the COVID restrictions.

by Anonymousreply 167August 9, 2020 11:08 PM

Well, you know, one's enough if they've got the Covid. And the way you guys are managing things, at least one seems likely.

But we're grateful only 85 of you threaten us daily on average.

by Anonymousreply 168August 9, 2020 11:57 PM

I thought all the rich American assholes were going to the Hamptons.

by Anonymousreply 169August 10, 2020 12:06 AM

R168 That's not the point and you know it. There are always going to be lawbreakers, there are Canadian lawbreaker and loophole finders too(though there is a legal loophole for Canadians, they can fly into the United States, they just can't use the land border) that's no reason to act like everyone in the US is doing it or even a lot of people in the US are doing it. Which means that MOST people in the United States do not deserve the name calling or the accusations of somehow trying to selfishly infect your country.

by Anonymousreply 170August 10, 2020 1:00 AM

You’re not wrong, R170, but it’s a bit rich to be claiming such strength of character when you consider this thread. More than one poster felt carte blanche for one to an infinite number of Americans to do as they please and DL’s characteristic disregard and disrespect for Canada was typically evident. So dial down the umbrage.

by Anonymousreply 171August 10, 2020 2:06 AM

We like Keanu Reeves and Dan Aykroyd. I can just think of other places I would rather go to travel. Like Beirut.

by Anonymousreply 172August 10, 2020 2:54 AM

Then go, R172. I hear the harbour is nice.

by Anonymousreply 173August 10, 2020 3:28 AM

So are the American DLers on here running about sticking their tongues on door handles and then trying to get into Canada? Sounds implausible since most of us haven’t been past the corner store buying mom cigarettes in a few decades.

by Anonymousreply 174August 10, 2020 4:12 AM

R32 I accidentally F&Fed you when I meant to give you a W&W!

by Anonymousreply 175August 10, 2020 4:24 AM

Canada’s tourism will be fine if Americans decide to boycott us.

by Anonymousreply 176August 10, 2020 4:28 AM

R13 as a Canadian I can tell you Toronto is full of assholes. The rest of the country hates them too.

by Anonymousreply 177August 10, 2020 4:30 AM

These people are stupid wanting to drive their us plate cars into Canada. I had dual citizen family members who came to Canada for a few months because it was safer but they flew. This was a few months ago so permanent residents and dual citizens were able to come back still. If you go cruising into another country or even province in the middle of the summer on vacation you look like some dumb asshole and people aren’t going to be nice. It’s a fucking pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 178August 10, 2020 4:35 AM

Is there a Canadian equivalent of a MAGAT?

by Anonymousreply 179August 10, 2020 5:08 AM

No, r179. There isn’t, at least, not federally.

by Anonymousreply 180August 10, 2020 5:31 AM

I will say I kind of question the judgment of any Canadian who is choosing to stay in America right now. I know a guy (single) who hasn’t left NYC even though his family and friends are all in Toronto and he can work remotely and he’s a Canadian citizen. He barely knows anyone in NYC but insists on staying because NYC is more exciting than Canada or some bullshit like that.

If I was lucky enough to be a Canadian citizen you can bet I would get my ass back there so fast from filthy America. Especially if I was working remotely and single.

by Anonymousreply 181August 10, 2020 5:40 AM

R169 How big are the Hamptons that they can take all the rich Americans?

by Anonymousreply 182August 10, 2020 10:41 AM

When we asked Canadians and Americans whether they agreed or disagreed with reopening the borders at the end of July, 86% of Canadians disagreed with reopening the borders, while 36% of Americans disagreed: a difference of 50 percentage points.

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by Anonymousreply 183August 10, 2020 12:49 PM

R174 - I know! That's why your numbers are so low! Last I heard, 4% of the world's population and 25% of the cases.

You've got this social distancing thing down, brother. Well done!

by Anonymousreply 184August 10, 2020 12:50 PM

You are correct R184 - it's 4% of the world population and MORE than a quarter of the cases AND nearly a quarter of all deaths.

Of the 20 countries with the biggest outbreaks, the US ranks sixth in deaths per capita, at 4.5 fatalities per 10,000 people - now 165,619 deaths.

US deaths making up nearly 23 per cent of the global total of 660,997. (linked article now 10 days old)

That's why nobody wants Americans in their country. It's not just the Canadians.

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by Anonymousreply 185August 10, 2020 1:08 PM

Our government screwed us over. We're paying the price for it. Very few people I know right now are traveling. I live in Utah and I go to California every October. Seriously don't think I'm going. Even though most of my family lives down there. I can't even imagine going to another state or country right now. Even beautiful Canada.

by Anonymousreply 186August 10, 2020 3:07 PM

Foreign travel is my hobby and I enjoy respectfully spreading my American dollars around as needed. People typically do appreciate the gesture.

But, this year I've canceled trips to Asia, South America and Africa along with the normal once or twice to Europe. I've saved so much cash by staying at home that I decided to remodel my kitchen and update my landscaping.

Sorry world, your loss at least until there's a vaccine.

by Anonymousreply 187August 10, 2020 4:08 PM

Wow, the arrogance ^^

by Anonymousreply 188August 10, 2020 4:09 PM

R187, please do things at home. We will observe a moment of silence for your missing personality sparking on our shores.

by Anonymousreply 189August 10, 2020 4:17 PM

R188 R189

lol

by Anonymousreply 190August 10, 2020 6:39 PM

I think R187 meant well, if in a rather grand way. As humblebragging goes, it had all the flourish of writing with an ostrich plume.

But it's sad how all the tourist economies are fucked. And not just for the absence of R187.

Conversely, think of the money they'll save not rolling out the red carpets for her.

by Anonymousreply 191August 10, 2020 6:44 PM

R187 is a pretentious twat.

by Anonymousreply 192August 10, 2020 6:44 PM

R187, too much trouble to buy the local currency or is the hauteur of fanning out your greenbacks just that thrilling?

by Anonymousreply 193August 10, 2020 6:46 PM

What's the American translation of Hyacinthe Bucket?

by Anonymousreply 194August 10, 2020 6:46 PM

Canada is a nasty woman!

by Anonymousreply 195August 10, 2020 6:47 PM

R8 Where my country gone?

by Anonymousreply 196August 10, 2020 6:53 PM

At least R187 cancelled his trips. I am seeing so many jerks on vacation this summer. It’s like no one can bear to just stay home while the numbers in America keep rising every day.

I cancelled my trip even though it was just in America.

We are doomed in this country. So jealous of you Canadians.

by Anonymousreply 197August 10, 2020 7:02 PM

Canada is the USA's ugly step sister.

by Anonymousreply 198August 10, 2020 7:22 PM

I can't comprehend people traveling in the midst of this shit.

by Anonymousreply 199August 10, 2020 7:24 PM

I hope that made you feel better, R198. And if that's the case, we must be very ugly indeed.

by Anonymousreply 200August 10, 2020 7:29 PM

Amazing satire, R187 - playing on the rest of the world’s view of the Ugly American.

Oh, you were serious?

by Anonymousreply 201August 10, 2020 7:33 PM

You just know those nasty ass Canadians will be flocking over OUR border in Winter, to escape their refrigerated hell hole.

I say we close the border permanently!

by Anonymousreply 202August 10, 2020 11:57 PM

Great idea, R202! Nothing tastes better than pride.

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by Anonymousreply 203August 10, 2020 11:59 PM

U.S. Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Rick Scott (R-FL) introduced the Canadian Snowbirds Act (S. 2507), legislation that would allow some Canadian citizens to spend up to eight months a year vacationing in the United States, two months longer than they are allowed to stay now.

According to the Canadian Embassy, [bold]Canadians who visit Florida contribute more than $6.5 billion each year to the state’s economy.[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 204August 11, 2020 12:01 AM

I hate hot weather, so go ahead r202. I will stick with Banff.

by Anonymousreply 205August 11, 2020 12:01 AM

Trade between Arizona and Canada is valued at $3.6 billion, with Arizona exporting $2.1 billion. Arizona has 280 Canadian-owned businesses, creating nearly 26,500 jobs, meaning Canadian-owned businesses employ more people in Arizona than those of any other foreign country.

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by Anonymousreply 206August 11, 2020 12:03 AM

Nearly one million Canadians came to Arizona last year, spending close to $1 billion.

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by Anonymousreply 207August 11, 2020 12:04 AM

R202 for Commerce Secretary - in a Trump administration. She fits right in.

by Anonymousreply 208August 11, 2020 12:05 AM

Why did they chose Arizona of all places?

by Anonymousreply 209August 11, 2020 1:32 AM

Because many Canadians own second homes there.

by Anonymousreply 210August 11, 2020 3:13 AM

I have a feeling that Canadians will manage just fine this winter. I’m an American but I would gladly spend a year staying cold rather than coming down to this filthy country.

And if Biden loses forget it. I would make alternate winter plans for the foreseeable future.

by Anonymousreply 211August 11, 2020 3:22 AM

R210 Back to my original question, why did they chose Arizona?

by Anonymousreply 212August 11, 2020 10:48 AM

R212, I think because it is comparatively cheap (lots of condo developments), no hurricane risk to property (unlike Florida and a few Confederate states on the Atlantic), a comparatively short flight from western Canada, lots of golf and, compared to western Canada in Jan - March, definitely warm.

by Anonymousreply 213August 11, 2020 12:51 PM

R28 you have no earthly idea what the term “Ugly American” refers to.

by Anonymousreply 214August 11, 2020 1:26 PM

Girls, girls...you're all ugly.

by Anonymousreply 215August 11, 2020 1:47 PM

I am the ugly American I hate what I am I am the ugly American I hate what I am

I take a picture of your founding father Take a picture of your local color Take a picture of your founding father Take a picture of your local color

We're so ugly, we're so ugly We're so ugly

I am the ugly American I am the ugly American I am the ugly American I hate what you are

Take a picture of your declassé Take a picture and you only say Take a picture of your ugly country Take a picture and you only say

I am the ugly American I am the ugly American I am the ugly American I hate what you are

Take a picture of your declassé Take a picture of your declassé Take a picture and you only say Take a picture and you only say

We're so ugly, we're so ugly We're so ugly

I am the ugly American I know what I am I am the ugly American I'm what I am

You say you're cultured 'cause you had a king? Your little boys sleep with their sisters!

I am the ugly American Know what I am I am the ugly American Love what I am

by Anonymousreply 216August 11, 2020 1:55 PM

R201

You're about the only one that got it. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 217August 11, 2020 1:56 PM

America is Bart Simpson and Canada is Lisa Simpson. America is great fun for awhile, but grows up to be a total loser. Canada, meanwhile, still has their shit together and doesn't go in for the foolishness that America does. And now big loser brother wants to mooch off of the responsible little sister.

by Anonymousreply 218August 11, 2020 2:28 PM

R210, Have you been to Arizona? If you have not Arizona attracts the more upper-middle and moderately wealthy Canadians. They tend to congregate in certain areas of the west valley, and east valley of the Phoenix metropolitan area. There they can buy very cheap modular homes in parks that have plenty of parking for their toys such a huge trailers, trucks, rv's. The parks are gated mostly and they have huge clubhouses with pools, palm trees green lawns and putting greens and some have small par 3 courses. They hang out all day at the pool, drinking and goofing around, then they go to dinner and overload all the restaurants. Then they have huge parties in the clubhouses that are themed. Poker night, costume parties and holiday parties. The climate of Phoenix is relatively benign in the winter, sunny every day and warm. I lived in one of these communities for four years. The Canadians that go to Arizona are primarily from the western provinces, excepting British Columbia for some weird reason. Many from the eastern provinces also.

I moved to Palm Springs and have had the misfortune of meeting the hideously wealthy Canadians from British Columbia. Without a doubt they are the most odious and repugnant of any group, and that's including the imbecile snowbirds from the US northern tier states. The Arizona snowbirds were warm and friendly, down to earth and a lot of fun. The British Columbians have a 50 pole up their ass, are grotesque in their showing of their wealth and are overall just appalling humans.

by Anonymousreply 219August 11, 2020 11:25 PM

r219 here, that was meant for r209

by Anonymousreply 220August 11, 2020 11:26 PM

BC has decent weather all year-round, so there's really no reason for them to migrate for the Winter. It hardly ever gets below 32f/0c.

As for their obnoxiousness, maybe it's because they're the "Hollywood of Canada." Lots of braggart types flock to the industry.

by Anonymousreply 221August 12, 2020 12:54 AM

[quote] All you're doing is worshiping stooges.

R35, pick two!

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by Anonymousreply 222August 12, 2020 2:20 AM

"BC has decent weather all year-round, so there's really no reason for them to migrate for the Winter."

Odd, as all I see in the winter around Palm Springs, Indian Wells, Rancho Mirage, and Palm Desert are British Columbia plates on 100,000 grand and up cars.

Hopefully not this winter.

by Anonymousreply 223August 12, 2020 4:34 PM

Americans are just mad they're being out-Karened, lol.

by Anonymousreply 224August 12, 2020 4:49 PM

Why are Canadians so nasty?

by Anonymousreply 225August 12, 2020 9:39 PM

Peter Griffin was right about Canada.

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by Anonymousreply 226August 12, 2020 9:44 PM

[quote] American tourists are further banned from entering Canada until September and 'citizen detectives' are on the lookout

Canada has extended its ban on American tourists at least one more month, Canadain Public Safety Minister Bill Blair announced Friday.

The US-Canada border has been closed since March 31, when the two countries banned all nonessential travel between in an effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus and extended several times. The border closure was just one part of Canada's somewhat successful national effort to shut down the pandemic, while the number of both confirmed cases and deaths has continued to spiral in the United States.

"We're taking this step to keep people in both our countries safe - because your health and safety is always our top priority," Canadian Prime Minister Justin Treadeau tweeted Friday.

Though the current restrictions are set to expire September 21, a majority of Canadians think the travel ban should last even longer, according to a BBC poll published Thursday. It found that 80% of Canadians want their country to ban American travelers until at least the end of the year.

Some Canadians have even turned into "citizen detectives," working to catch Americans who have tried to sneak across the closed border, The New York Times' Karen Schwartz reported. A dual citizen of the United States and Canada, Schwartz was permitted to drive from Colorado to Alberta to visit her father if she submitted to a two-week quarantine upon arrival. Schwartz reported that Canadians now regularly report American visitors to the police and that she received a warning that her car's Colorado plates might make it a target for vandalism.

"Besides the fear of getting sick, the real stress is parking a vehicle with American plates, and hoping that nobody notices them," Schwartz wrote of her trip.

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