Eldergays! Where were you on August 9, 1969?

I have an alibi, I swear.

In my daddy’s balls.

My daddy’s balls had barely dropped.

August 9 is Dan Levy 's birthday.

I was busy gestating inside my mother.

[quote]When you heard about the murders on Cielo Drive?

I know nothing of this, but I loved her song "My Heart Will Go On."

Making it Witchy

Pooping and peeing in my diaper like a fucking boss.

I heard about it on the radio the following night, a Sunday, just as I had heard about Judy's death in June. Probably WNEW-FM. I was just in my room, listening to music and reading...getting ready to go to bed.

I was crank-calling Leslie Uggams.

I also was inside Mommy.

I was about 20 miles away from there at the time, in Canoga Park, too young to really know what was going on.

My Mama’s BELLEH!!

I was in 5th Grade in Catholic School, the nuns told us endless horror stories about people using drugs

Trying to use my potty-training toilet. It had been a rough day for me.

Also me and my toilet were about 9 miles away from Cielo Drive.

[quote]—Did here the one about the babysitter that took LSD

Oh, DEAR!

[quote] Trying to use my potty-training toilet. It had been a rough day for me.

Shouldn’t have eaten that Gerber Butternut Squash Puree.

[quote] In my daddy’s balls.

Useless without photos.....

Getting stoned somewhere.

Jesus, how old are you?

I was a 2 year-old hangin' with my 6 month old baby bro.

In the twilight years of my past life, I guess.

I was nine years old in the back seat of my dad’s car as we headed down the coast for the winter school holidays and I saw an article in the newspaper about a massacre in Los Angeles the day before. I read it as “mascara”, not “massacre” and asked my mum, who took the paper from me and changed the subject.

And she had the nerve to be shocked when I came out ten years later!!

Winter school holidays in August? Are you Australian?

Visiting my grandmother in Westchester County, NY and discussing with my cousins whether we should drive up to Bethel for some concert the next weekend.

some of you bitches are

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Yes, R25.

Yes, R27. We know. But we are still here.

Six years prior, August 9, 1963, Patrick Bouvier Kennedy died in Boston, Massachusetts.

Coincidence?

I was 17 with a cool summer job.

My 21 year old brother was planning to attend an outdoor concert in New York . . . Woodstock.

In two months, our world would be shattered when our father died suddenly at 51.

I was 5 years old. Don't remember much, but I could remember top 40 hits: like "Aquarius" and "La La Means I Love You...

I was getting ready to celebrate my very first birthday the next day. Don’t remember much.

I was living in Cheviot Hills with my family. Maybe five miles from the crime scene. My mother was glued to the TV. I asked her if we were going to be okay and she said, "yes.'

After those murders that's when people in Los Angeles started to lock their front doors.

Visiting my grandmothers.

It was Saturday. I was sleeping in. My first real job and I was working 10 hours a day. Manson who?

R34, Not only locking their doors, purchasing firearms, as well.

Steve McQueen was just one of Jay Sebring's celebrity clients who attended his funeral and he had a gun under his jacket in the chapel.

16 years old, just graduated high school. But that specific day? Who the fuck remembers, it was 51 years ago.

[quote] I was getting ready to celebrate my very first birthday the next day. Don’t remember much.

[quote] Who the fuck remembers, it was 51 years ago.

Y’all should try some ginkgo biloba.

Wasn't it the Tate/Polanski house one weekend, and the LaBianca house the following (or previous?) weekend? And as others have pointed out, obliquely, Woodstock was a couple of weekends later. And if my memory doesn't deceive me, didn't Mary Jo Kopechne go for her fatal "swim" with Ted Kennedy a weekend or so before or right after these murders? (Looked it up, it was July 18th, so not even a month earlier). 1969 was a BIG year for news...I was aestivating at my grandmother's house in Alabama when all these things took place, and I was certainly aware of all of it. 13 years old, having a fine time, free as a bird.

R40, And the first moon landing was on July 20, 1969.

Plus, Judy had just died on June 22nd.

I think the murders were on successive nights.

You’re right, r42.

FFS, r40, the OP put it in his OP!

four months cooking in my mother’s belly, I sprouted out in January.

Being conceived.

Almost 7 months old.

[quote] Being conceived.

At the exact time?

Were your parents over sharers?

I was six. I have vivid recollections of the moon landing and zero recollection of Tate-LaBianca. I think my parents must have hidden the news from us.

@ r31, Sorry for your tragic loss. I remember in my own neighborhood dads about the same age were dropping like flies. My mom was so freaked out she wouldn't let my dad lift a finger. My dad is now 94 and my mom is 92, she still won't let him do anything. I guess it worked

Since the greatest tragedy in all of homosexual history occurred on June 22 of that year it hardly matters what happened to boring drug using no-talents with too much money. The fabulous Lesbyterian couple who lived next to the La Bianca murder house told us the real story about the Cielo drive residents. They were both buying drugs from and having sex with the Manson family, so they were hardly strangers.

I think Sharon Tate could have been amazing. In VOTD, she was surrounded by actresses with much more experience and training, but she is the only one who comes across as a genuine human being,

I really mean that. And you know how bitchy fags can be,

I had just graduated from High School.

I would have been in 5th grade, and my parents never let us know about the Manson murders at the time. I read about them years later, as a teenager.

Me too, R11!

I could walk, but my speech wasn’t yet fully developed.

I didn’t say a word as the knife plunged through vital organs.

I was ten years old and jerked off in a Sears men's room . The beginning of many, many extraordinary experiences ....

I was 14 and I honestly don’t remember.

That was the year my mother was born OP.

I was probably out in my backyard playing. I may have been in Tom’s River becsuse we went there for the summer sometimes. I was just about to start kindergarten.

At home, still marvelling at the July events of the Moon landing and Chappaquiddick. Thinking about going to Woodstock with my boyfriend from Queens. Didn't.

Swimming with the other sperm

[quote] Thinking about going to Woodstock with my boyfriend from Queens. Didn't.

I’m curious if you regret that decision.

R62, I'd sooner go now, at 70, than when I was 19 and fussier about rain, mud, and my appearance!

So no, no regrets!

Thanks, r63!

I was ten years old and jerked off in a Sears men's room . The beginning of many, many extraordinary experiences ....

Well You GO Girl r56, you have us beat! We smoked out first pole - a magnificent long thick 8 incher - when we were 12, and swallowed every drop!

My grandmother was born in 1969.

r24, I LOVE YOU.

I was two months away from being born.

This new series on Epix is probably the best I’ve seen on Manson and his followers. Really well done.

I was 19 and in art college in SF. I probably read it in the morning papers before leaving for class. I read the paper every day. It was shocking and gruesome.

I had seen Valley of the Dolls and read the book. I was very sad for Sharon Tate and the others. Horrible to die that way, and Sharon pregnant, too. I also later read Helter Skelter. It's a horrible tale but the book was a good read.

I was 15 and staying overnight at my aunt and uncle's - read about this tragedy in the paper.

I was in Truro and unconcerned with such adult matters.

-12 years old

My crib.

My dad was 4 months old.

[quote] I was in Truro

Oh, I heard it’s lovely this time of year.

I remember it being a night so quiet you could almost hear the sound of ice rattling in cocktail shakers in the homes way down the canyon.

In summer preschool... still trying to process being forced to watch the so-called lunar landing the previous month 😏

it struck me recently how the news of the murders came out in bits and pieces for months.

^The news was discovered in "bits and pieces" - it's one of the main points of Bugliosi's book, Helter Skelter, which is certainly worth reading. I think the book has been updated about 3 times since it's original publication, with additional evidence that's been discovered, and it's suspected that quite a few more undiscovered bodies are buried on the property at the Spahn Ranch, people who knew Manson and disappeared, and who have never been seen again.

[quote] updated about 3 times since it's original publication

Oh, dear!

Is it really a good book, r81?

I’ve been holding off reading it for years because I thought I knew enough about the whole situation from documentaries and interviews with Bugliosi and I figured I’d be retreading old ground.

That’s not the case?

Great book - very well written.

I was 9. My parents were having some sort of memorial service for my paternal grandfather and a clutch of old Irish relatives arrived in mourning black from Philadelphia. The murders were the second topic of interest, and for me the first because everyone seemed interested to tell me some aspect of the murders or what they thought. It was a sort of blind men describing the elephant moment as interesting for the perceptions of the event (and what they told of the dispositions of those who held them) as for the facts of the event.

They're were copies of the Philadelphia Inquirer everywhere, one from my parents who had already discussed the story, and then copies from the guests--together with a couple more lurid tabloid format newspapers.

A memory, then, of being small amongst black-clad adults happier for the opportunity to gather than they were sad (my grandfather was quite old and his cousins had not seen him for five or so years at least), and the event was considerably enlivened on the one hand and had an ominous note on the other.

Many people I know in Los Angeles believe that the Sixties ended abruptly on August 9, 1969. —Joan Didion

Hanging around and waiting to make my appearance in 4 days

I was hiding at my Canadian kindergarten class so the cops wouldn't find me.

[R26], my neighbours, two teenage girls, went to that concert site in Bethel, NY. They left Friday around lunchtime and were back Saturday before lunch. "You couldn't see, you couldn't hear, it was awful." Joni didn't miss much...

My father brought home the NY Post and Daily News every day but he would hide them during the Manson madness (I always managed to find them and read the gory details).

Bugliosi was a hot daddy

Yum

"Boy, am I glad I decided on a quiet night in/was too tired)forgot Sharon's invitation...

Jaqueline Susann

Rex Reed

Steve McQueen

Quincy Jones

Kirk Douglas

Jozy Pollock

George Lazenby

Jill St. John

Jack Nicholson

Yul Brynner

Bruce Lee

Lynn Carey

Rick James

Terry O'Neill (photographer)

Ava Roosevelt

Steve Brandt

Cass Elliott

Barbara Perkins

Jerzy Koszinki

Stanislav Wohl

Denny Doherty

John Phillips

Robert Lipton

Connie Kreski

Michael Sarne

Tanya Sarne

Robert Vaughn

Robert Evans (producer)

Link for R93

Curt Gentry co-wrote Helter Skelter with Bugliosi and, IMO, is responsible for the compelling writing. Have read other books by each, and highly recommend Gentry's book on J. Edgar Hoover, the man and the secrets.

Oh, r95 is for r84.

Thanks for the recommendation r95. Helier Skelter is a compelling read.

I first read Helter Skelter in the summer of '75, summer home from college. I had a job, and the family had gone on vacation to Florida. It's the only time in my life that I felt compelled to close ALL the curtains at night, all the way around the house, it's such a creepy story.

I have an alibi, I swear.

In the Haunted Mansion, so I was already dead.

[quote] Hanging around and waiting to make my appearance in 4 days

Where were you appearing?

[quote] My crib.

Then you are not an elder gay and no one cares.

[quote] My dad was 4 months old.

LOL! Even your dad is not an elder anything. Have you ever heard the saying: Children should be seen and not heard? That seems entirely applicable here.

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