Post pictures of stars you'd never recognize today.

Room 666

Why did she embed two saggy old testicles in her cheeks?

Lee Majors

Shelley Duval

Madonna.

Very few fans realize she uses stock images from the 90s on her social media accounts.

Barry Manilow - are you a fanilow?

r3 Is that Ashley Judd? She should wait until the swelling goes down.

Macaulay Culkin

Kelly McGillis

Lara Flynn Boyle.

R5 is the only one I'd never recognize. Holy shit.

"He got a real purty mouth ain't he"

I recognized Karen Valentine immediately. She looks great.

I always liked Lara Flynn Boyle. Hope she’s doing well.

Did someone ask for me?

Or me?

Ann Jillian. I think she looks lovely, but she looks like one of those nice ladies you see behind the desk at an elementary school administrative office.

If you grew up in the late 80s/80s, Color Me Badd lead singer:

late 80s/early 90s*

And he used to look like this:

Richard Dean Anderson

I recognized her right away

Who's the man with the squirrel?

I didn't think she looked bad into her early 70s, except the makeup, but since she doesn't let anyone see her in the last 20 years who know how much she's changed since this was taken.

I've always been glad she was able to turn her life around after all those problems and assaults against her in the 60s.

Teri Garr

Faye Dunaway is getting there

I’m not sure what year this is from. It’s Lauren Tewes from Love Boat

Here she is on Love Boat

R21:

Guess who:

James Bond

R23, that's so sad. Poor woman. And how fucking cruel to take a picture of her like that.

Gene Hackman

Poor Shelley . I always liked her,and I never hated Dr. Phil more than when he had her on his show . I only watched it that day because she was featured. I hope that piece of shit hack rots in hell for exploiting mentally ill people.

Connery doesn't look bad for being 90 years old

Val Kilmer

Shelley Long

Richard Grieco lost his looks big time

Nate Richert from Sabrina , The Teenage Witch

What he used to look like: ^

R31 Gene Hackman looks happy. Old, but happy.

R32, what did he do to her? I've never watched Phil. I find him disgusting.

Jeffrey Epstein.

Bullshit^ Looks NOTHING like him.

Mary Tyler Moore

Our Faye

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Lens

I know people age, but some of these look SO bad. I guess it's due to bad plastic surgery and drugs, alcohol, mental illness.

Brady Corbet.

Cybill Shepherd

Tina Louise at R14 looks alarmingly like the Cryptkeeper, poor thing.

Meg Foster.

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R36 He looks more fuckable than Johnny Depp nowadays.

Damn, R53. Both Rose and Jack would've survived if they had him as a flotation device.

Don't you remember, my name is Al?

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Al Pacino is hardly unrecognizable. He looks exactly like himself, but old...

R57, he looks like a grown up version of the kid from "Up"

^^ Yeah, exactly.

I'm shocked no one has posted Renee Zellweger yet.

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Meg Tilly

Lee Montgomery

Meg looks adorable ! And very much like herself.

Meg doesn't look bad. A few lines and grey hair, but she still looks like herself

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Is R6 Madonna? I think it's a high resolution photo of Catherine O'Hara.

Sorry, one more thing, and if it is Catherine, she also gets a pass for still reasonably looking like herself.

Goldberg from The Mighty Ducks is now a mug meth addict

Amen, R23. And to post it here.

r16 I think Ann Jillian looks better there than she did back in the '80s with that awful platinum hair and ugly cut. That color and style on her is very flattering, and if she's had work done, it was very successful.

I also think Ann Jillian looks good

Michael Schoeffling

Meg tilly looks great , ann jillian, cybil shephard too. Gene hackman & james bond look fine for 90+ (and because they were great fun in tn the movies) It does seem the plastic folks age the harshest. I know we go on about it endlessly on DL but Faye Dunaway would ‘ve gotten all the older lady parts had she just aged. She really was talented.

Ann Jillian is 70. She looks fine.

R75 I agree with you. Cybill Shepherd, Meg Tilly and Ann Jillian look good.

Shelly Long, Connery and Hackman look fine.

R68 and R69. The pic @R6 is definitely Catherine O’Hara.

How do I know? I’m binge watching “Schitt’s Creek”as I type.

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Is there anything Lara Flynn Boyle can do to help her looks? A chin lift maybe?

R3 WOW, Ashley Judd is younger than my mother and she’s done that to herself!

R 3 — who is that?

R82 Ashley Judd

Ann Jillian is really pretty now.

Gordon Lightfoot

Lara Flynn Boyl doesn't look that bad anymore. That pic is from 2013. There are recent paparazzi pics and she looks okay. Here is one from 2017 with make-up

John Cusack

I'm very conflicted about Lens. On the one hand, it is truly horrible to have chronic diseases, and I commend anyone who's working to educate the public on how to live with them. On the other hand, she's so blatant and overt about exaggerating and trolling for sympathy.

She's so devastated about being homely in the entertainment industry, but when she was controlling her weight and paying attention to fashion, she actually was attractive. Too bad she was overwhelmed by bad health and self-pity..

[R51], that person really is unrecognizable. Who is it?

Chevy Chase

WTF happened to LFB? And no one in her life tries to help me? Some people need to be fucking forced into sobriety. I hope that’s not the issue.

Sorry, I meant [R52]

Judd Nelson

Who is the lesbian at r52?

That Girl.

Ashley Judd is reportedly on steroids for some illness. Hence, the moon face.

I saw the dr Phil episode with Shelley Duvall. Unspeakable cruelty and the height of insensitivity. It seems as though she was “persuaded” by Phil and the staff to come on the show so she could “get help.”

That charletan turned it into a freak show side show. “Tell is when it got really bad ...”

R30 I agree. Am all for “celebrities signed up for this shit” but I’m disturbed they took those pictures of someone clearly in pain — and it’s not like she was such a big star. Leave the poor woman alone.

I think Al looks great. Cybill would look a lot better about 20-30 lbs lighter. I know we say too thin ages you, but it works the other way too, I’d say even more so to be honest. Really, as you get older (for women) the range of weight where your looks are optimal gets smaller and smaller, sadly.

Meg Tilly just looks a little older with grey hair, like Ali MacGraw.

R92 - Helmut Berger after the portrait in the attic lost its mojo.

Cybil Shepherd looks like any number of women her age you'd find in West Virginia.

R46: Just imagine what a horror Lens will be like when she's truly old---faded tats, stretch marks from yo-yo-ing weight and more importantly, still no talent.

Michael Schoeffling stiill looks blowable

The Clueless cutie.

Little Joe can still get it.

Linda Evangelista

R61 Renee got her face back. You must have missed the whole awards season which culminated in her second Oscar win. Bitch looks good!

I think Gene Hackman looks good considering he is 7 months older than Sean Connery.

Glenda Jackson (as King Lear)

^^ Stockard Channing should sue whoever did that to her.

Greta Garbo

The thing about Karen Valentine and others like her - what on earth does she do to make money these days? Did she invest well? Her series and her films are so long ago they would not be yielding any meaningful income, and she didn't work enough (look at her IMDB) to have a huge pension coming in from the unions. There's no evidence of her doing any substantial theatre or live appearances since the millennium. So...how does she live? Did she come from money? Is she that in demand at the autograph shows?

How horrifying. Both of them.

I don't think either of them looks bad (she's 55 and he's 58)

[quote]The thing about Karen Valentine and others like her - what on earth does she do to make money these days? Did she invest well? Her series and her films are so long ago they would not be yielding any meaningful income, and she didn't work enough (look at her IMDB) to have a huge pension coming in from the unions. There's no evidence of her doing any substantial theatre or live appearances since the millennium. So...how does she live? Did she come from money? Is she that in demand at the autograph shows?

The eternal mystery. Some actors work like dogs for decades, saying yes to everything, good roles and payday roles and being generally well paid for it and across the rising scales of decades, yet money seems never to accumulate very much in their hands for no obvious vice or habit. They have little to show for their acclaim and ubiquity. Others have a brief career in a handful of roles then fade from the scene and live very handsomely from money made within the time you could get an undergraduate degree, and without any obvious source of income beyond that and they die with large estates.

There are some obvious explanations sometimes: a chain of expensive divorces, bad investments, profligate children on the one hand, or wise investments, lucrative marriages, lucrative residuals, etc., But often not.

Leif Garrett

Oops, here's Leif Garrett

Kim Novak at the 2014 Oscars with that shockingly horrible facial surgery. But it looks like she had it corrected or something. Here's an interview from January of this year with Mo Rocca. She looks not bad at all for 86 years old. In the interview she comes off as batty but interesting and I'd say even youthful.

Apparently, Mo Rocca has a huge penis.

That is another useless piece of shit I've learned on DL.

Novak was actually aging pretty well before the surgery - I don't know why she thought she needed it

Who says Karen Valentine has money?

Karen learned early on about making money the hard way!

Garr is a right wing nut. I don’t feel sorry for her.

R120 Teri Garr has done a lot to support the Trevor Project and AIDS Project LA, and was arrested in the 80's for protesting nuclear testing.

She might still be a "right wing nut", I don't know, but most right wing nuts don't support those two particular causes.

I looked for evidence for your claim of her wingnuttery, but couldn't find a thing. Do you have anything?

Are you sure you're not confusing her with somebody else, perhaps Victoria Jackson?

The personification of the words "las vegas".

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R123 Because of the glasses, for a split second I thought she was Lisa Loeb in the left photo.

BTW Lisa Loeb seems to be aging well.

Cybill Shepherd actually looks pretty good for 70. I would recognize her.

R106: Hopefully Adrienne Barboobs didn’t go that far.

Shelley Long, Eve Plumb, and Gina Schock are slowly morphing into the same person.

A few years ago I saw a picture of Rupert Everett and didn't even recognize him - he had some bad work

Rupert's gotten jowly.

(R87) What the hell happened to John Cusack? I used to have the biggest crush on him. His looks have faded like his career.

Renee Zellweger's face is so tight, can she even smile? Can she close her eyes when she sleeps? Just stop, girl.

Renee Zellweger's face is so tight, can she even smile? Can she close her eyes when she sleeps? Just stop, girl.

Speaking of John Cusack, would you recognized Joan Cusack?

***have recognized

Kiki Dee

SL

Ann Jillian looks wonderful. I always have a soft spot for Cybill Shepherd. Way back when in my high school days, she was so beautiful.

R86. Nice to see Lara Flynn Boyle looking good in that more recent photo after the less than flattering photo from 2013.

I'll just leave this here.

Cheekbone implants. Ghastly.

Sophia Loren looked spectacular into her 70s but the wigs, make up and low cut gowns she still wears in her 80s make her look ghastly.

However, if you take all that away she still looks beautiful.

This photo is from last summer. She's 85 here. There's probably some retouching but they weren't going for a glamour shot. She looks like a very pretty old lady.

R140 Sophia Loren's kids were at school with me; I don't remember the kids at all; Sophia was at school a lot as she took a close interest in her children's school. She was there a lot and was much loved by the students who she spoilt rather.

R109. Regarding Karen Valentine, granted she hasn’t worked much in the past 25 years or even longer; however, she did work quite often in the 1960s and ‘70s. And she has been married to the same man, Gary Verna, since 1977 according to Wikipedia. I don’t know who he is, but he could have provided a nice living for the two of them.

R141, is that Hilary Duff?

As for the photo on the right, she doesn't look like that now. For the past few years, she's been on YOUNGER with Sutton Foster. She doesn't have a double chin and she isn't fat. That photo might hav been what she looked like after she had her baby.

Remember super hunky Gil Gerard?

R141 is an awful photoshop. Like something out of Shallow Hal.

What about Wesley Crusher? I can't bear to post a pic of him now.

Hunky Gil Gerard is now chunky Gil Gerard

Many have simply grown old and that’s what age does- like Elizabeth T. Others like Boyle have had lousy cosmetic procedures- almost all with big changes- older, often in poor health have had a rough time. And many others look just fine like Meg Tilly. Aging is very very rough and gets harder the longer you last.

Thread closed.

R138 - Zac Efron looks like a total hot stud in that pic - damn, that's a sexy man

Glenn Medeiros Before

After

I really liked Meg Tully’s performances and it appears she’s aged beautifully. Looks very contented. She retired early after her marriage.

Never thought Zac Efron was hot until now. God damn!

I want the one on the right!

Zac Efron looks deranged

(R158) I agree. Is this effects of the quarantine on him?

Zac looked best in the Paperboy or Dirty Grandpa. Not a fan of either look from R157.

Shows how much weight gain can impact your features. But it's so incredibly tough not to add on pounds as you age.

Or during god damn, mothafucking COVID isolation.

Eddie izzard looks like a Karen now.

Shelley Long looks ok, she's pushing 70. As does Cybill Shepherd. She's not 30 anymore.

Gene Hackman and Sean Connery are over 90. How good can you possibly look at that age?

Cybill Shepherd looks fine.

God, it stinks to get old. I imagine it must be even worse if you were beautiful once upon a time.

[R130], if this link works it’s John Cusack promoting Utopia at a Comic Con panel last month. He no longer has that unhealthy bloated look, instead he looks gaunt and fragile. Either way he doesn’t look healthy. He tweeted recently that he’s going to have surgery soon. I hope it’s nothing serious, and he looks healthy soon.

I still got it!

R28, I'd say he's Marilyn Manson.

Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, R167!

Correct, R168

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Eva Marie Saint

Will Hutchins from the TV Western Sugarfoot

R171 she still looks beautiful and elegant. I was amazed at the Oscars I think a couple of years ago? What a lady.

Cybill looks like a truck driver now. But she was always a big boned woman.

Joan Van Ark

Edward Furlong

Shelley Long looks awful for 70. One of my aunts is 78 and doesn't look as bad as Shelley. My aunt hasn't even had plastic surgery and she's a cancer survivor.

Has Shelley been ill?

[quote] Shelley Long, Eve Plumb, and Gina Schock are slowly morphing into the same person.

Yeah, a spinster schoolmarm from turn-of-the-20th-century New England.

Julie Christie

Erin Gray looks like her mother now. The only reason I recognize her is her voice. Someone posted a recent commercial she did of some brain pills. One more ad and she'll be the gentile female Krusty the Klown.

Julie Christie

An even worse one of Edward Furlong

Someone molested him and I pray it wasn't John Waters.

Who the heck is r52?

Dwight Schultz - not necessarily bad, but definitely unrecognizable

R182 Wasn't it his on-set tutor?

James Caan

I think Karen Valentine looked OK in OP’s picture. She’s not a young gal anymore. But she was adorable back in the 60s and 70s. Does she still work? I never see her in anything. It just seems like everybody but everybody has a TV gig these days, nobody is obscure anymore.

Ann-Margret

Gina Lollobrigida

Taina Elg

Jean-Claude Van Damme

R183, it's Helmut Berger, who used to look like this:

Nick Nolte

No photographs PLEASE.

Most of these people look like what they are, older versions heavier versions of themselves. I wouldn’t describe most of them as “unrecognizable.” Do you folks also believe that you are unrecognizable, as you age?

Melanie Griffith before and after the head transplant.

I laughed way too hard @R194

Sean Young

Sean is crazy but looks good for her age.

The formerly gorgeous Bridget Bardot. She looks like a wonderful old eccentric. I like her hair.

Fascist cunt^

Jamie Walters from 90210 (Ray Pruitt). He looks ok, he's not that old.

KIds In The Hall

(ng Jamie Walters with Drew B.)

I know Melanie Griffith has her nose done in that “face transplant” but what happened to it to begin with? It wasn’t perfect but nice and cute enough when she was doing movies but then in that left picture it just looks so wide and misshapen and..kind of deformed.

Cocaine? But a lot of actors have done as much as she has and that doesn’t happen to them. So I’m not really sure the story there...

Jjjjj

Tina Yothers

What a depressing thread. I think Op should have included a warning label.

Agreed. Time is a real cunt.

I'm sure if she was getting her face caught in the bus door, you'd have recognized Karen.

Karen Valentine has even grown too old for grandmother roles.

Why I never in all my life.

Maybe that wasn't a great picture of Karen Valentine. This is with Denise Nicholas and Judy Strangis also from Room 222.

"Bernie" - David Jolliffe. Says here he has appeared in hundreds of TV commercials.

back then

I remember him -- the annoying, big-mouth kid with the orange fro.

Anybody else remember the "Room 222" episode where one of the kids was the subject of homophobic bullying, and somebody wrote "FAG" on his locker? That may have been the first time I saw a reference to homosexuality on TV.

I think Valentine looks great except her hair is too dark. She just needs to lighten her hair color and she would look better. It’s too harsh.

R216 Yes but I don't remember much about it. R217 You're right.

[quote]I remember him -- the annoying, big-mouth kid with the orange fro.

It's called a Jewfro.

r212 I was always fascinated by Judy Strangis, who looks pretty good BTW. She was always in everything on TV and she had little or no talent at all...I think her father was some producer...sheades of Tori and that's why she always got work

R220 Says in the article she later became a successful TV writer as well.

I don't remember Bernie/David Jolliffe being annoying.

50 years after Room 222. (Omg. 50 years.)

*correction" 46 years. That sounds so much better...not really.

[quote] Why did she embed two saggy old testicles in her cheeks?

Aren’t those her actual cheekbones? Or does that scream “work?”

I think most people that look bad on here are the ones that have had plastic surgery. I actually paid thousands of dollars to look like that. A brown paper bag is only $0.25.

If you didn't know who Karen Valentine is, you could confuse her for Toni Basil. (We're gonna have to do a separate thread on Karen.)

Brendan Fraser

Oh my sweet Jesus, Brendan!

Brendan looks awful

r216 I don't remember the FAG episode, but I'm sure it turned out he wasn't gay after all, just sensitive.

Helen Lawson

Breakfast Club's Judd Nelson

After doing some research, the FAG episode was titled "What is a Man?", and it originally aired on December 3, 1971.

"In this episode, Miss Johnson decides to put on a production of Shakepeare's "Twelfth Night" with an all-male cast. Howard, the young man playing the female lead, is ridiculed by other male students who assume that he is a homosexual. Though he pretends that their comments do not bother him, little by little Howard's sense of humor grows thin. He mistakenly believes that he must be something he is not in order to prove that he is a real man; though he suffers from asthma, he decides to try out for the track team."

Miss Johnson was Karen Valentine's character, right? See, that bitch was always causing trouble.

So I was 9 years old when it aired, and it's stayed in the recesses of my brain ever since. Interesting.

Martin Hewitt from Endless Love.

Randy Powell

Gary Sandy

This thread should have come packed with razor blades.

Wow @ R15

80s soap hunk Mark Arnold (Edge of Night)

John James (Dynasty)

Is Ashley Judd still claiming medical conditions for all her facial deformities?

Martin Hewitt is sixty-two years old! He looks just fine and seems like such a bright, sweet guy.

I saw Gary Sandy in "The Pirates of Penzance" on Broadway in 1982 (in the Kevin Kline role-The Pirate King) and he was wonderful, and very sexy.

r194 is Mickey Rooney, right?

Francoise Hardy

Id still do Gary Sandy because hes still got that huge dick ! Plus I was so in love with him on WKRP . Francoise Hardy looks fantastic.

^^ You'll have to lift up his belly to suck it.

This thread needs more before and after photos. I don't know many of these people.

Judd Nelson looks good!

Furlong always looked like a punk.

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Ann Reinking

R50. Oof...his colored eyebrows. I think he looks much better before.

Sophis Loren would look 110% better had she not had her nose done with her last facelift.

Madonna

Who is that R41? That cant be Epstein

How old are those “recent” Rom 221 photos? That show was 50 years ago. Are the “recent” photos 20 years old?

Riptide reunion, 2018.

r228

He doesn't look that bad but the long black hair has got to go.

WHET Andy from Family Ties.

I have never heard of Karen Valentine or Room 222 and I’m not even young.

[quote]Brian Bonsall AKA Andy from 'Family Ties' Is Now a Proud Father and Husband Himself

Covered in tats. Clearly he has no expectations of a return to acting.

[quote]I have never heard of Karen Valentine or Room 222 and I’m not even young.

And your life is poorer for it, R260.

I starred in the seminal classic about presenting hole.

Coffee, Tea or Me, DL bitches!

A very perky Karen Valentine accepts the Emmy for best supporting actress in a comedy in 1970. So, 50 years ago, in case anyone is surprised that she looks a lot older now.

R6 That looks like Catherine O'Hara

Plastic surgery is one thing; aging is quite another.

Anyone who expects or wants an 80-year-old to be "attractive" or "sexy" with gleaming natural teeth, full head of hair, no wrinkles, svelte---has a serious psychological problem.

R260, And you thought such an admission was apt because.....?

Loretta Young, no so young. She certainly does not look this good now.

Loretta aged really well

Dolores del Rio was another one from Hollywood's Golden Age who aged very well

Sally Field stole Karen Valentine's career.

When did Mark Arnold become Robert Picardo?

Karen Valentine’s Emmy acceptance speech was very sweet.

Dr Johnny Fever + groupie.

grown up brattress, Quinn Cummings

[quote]Riptide reunion, 2018.

Perry King looks great -- much better than I would have expected.

And for r227 :

R275 Perry King does look great.

This one completely stumped me when I first saw it; David Hemmings as he appeared in "Gangs of New York" --

David Hemmings during his "Blow-Up" heyday:

General Hospital fans -- remember Hutch (Rick Moses), the cool, hunky, guitar-strumming hitman stalking Luke and Laura?

Rick "Hutch" Moses back in the day:

How could any self respecting queen not know who Karen Valentine is? I mean, this is bull shit!

1960s TV Batman's side piece Robin, Burt Ward.

I wouldn't have recognized David Hemmings

Because 2/3rds of this thread is about her R267

I follow Quinn Cummings on Twitter, she is smart, liberal and a total wiseass!

Believe it or not, Richard Marx is the same way. He's smart and entertaining and likes to roast Republicans on a spit!

June Bride looks a-ok to me.

Is R57 Dean Cain?

[quote]Is R57 Dean Cain?

It sure isn't Henry Cavill.

R228 OMG!

Is r52 Shirley Booth?

Coffee, Tea, or Me. The book was reprinted a few years ago and was surprisingly homophobic. And also kinda flat. It was actually ghostwritten by the same guy who writes the "Jessica Fletcher" mystery series that uses photos of Lansbury that are now decades old.

Never seen the tv film of Coffee... Those books were everywhere.

Robert Fuller (on the left)

What's Donna Mills' secret?

[quote]What's Donna Mills' secret?

If she must have her picture taken, she tries to make she she's always standing next to Joan Van Ark.

Donna does look a hell of a lot better than Joan

Prince

Room 222 Theme song and opening video with Karen Valentine, who won an Emmy for Best Supporting Actress in 1970.

Is Room 222 even shown in reruns anymore?

Did we ever identify r52? Is that Carrot Top?

R299, See R96 and R192.

Thanks r300!

[quote]How old are those “recent” Rom 221 photos? That show was 50 years ago. Are the “recent” photos 20 years old?

The date of the article is January 2020, the article was posted by me, above. Denise Nicholas is 76, Karen Valentine is 73, Judy Strangis is 71, David Jolliffe is 68. Guess it was a show where the teachers and students were played by actors almost the same age.

R298. I don't know if it's in reruns, but it was a damn good show way back when. Great comedy/drama that emphasized the teachers and their interaction with the students rather than an emphasis on the students. This allowed the show to discuss the issues of the day including race, politics, the Vietnam War. I remember the theme song and opening credits like it were (almost) yesterday.

Funny where things stick in your brain ~ watching that intro to Room 222 ~ I remember those shots so clearly but how many, many years ago has it been since I’ve even seen a rerun. That brings back memories of being a preteen in Altadena feeling grown up watching the ABC Friday night line up!

I didn’t know Jim Brooks created Room 222 (which I’ve never watched).

Not googling it right now but I’m guessing that’s where he got his start — interesting.

I saw met Donna Mills a while back. She was very petite with perfect skin. I don't think she ever put on weight.

She's aged but still very recognizable and still attractive.

Joan Van Ark, Michele Lee, and Donna Mills. Poor Joan, she should wear lipstick with color and lay off the fillers.

Linda Evans, still pretty in in a fragile old lady kind of way.

Olivia Newton John

Oh dear. Can this thread be more depressing. You have an idea in your mind that follows a name, then there's the reality, in black & white and depressing. These people look like anyone you'd see at the market. Thanks DL for taking my mind off Covid-19 for a bit.

I loved watching the Room 222 clip. I was coming out of elementary school and liked that show. I remember thinking it represented what high school would really be like, with everyone happy and optimistic.🤔

It’s just me!

Patti Smith

That’s not Michael schoeffling, it was taken from a guys linkedin profile that had the same name. Most of these people just look like older or heavier versions of themselves. Teri garr isn’t a republican or conservative I don’t know where you got that from.

From the Dukes of Hazzard, Mr. Tom Wopat.

Lisa Gerritsen . She is most famous for her role as Bess, the independent-minded daughter of Phyllis Lindstrom on The Mary Tyler Moore Show; she later carried the role over into the spinoff Phyllis.

I don’t think that’s her ^ r315.

This could be Lisa Gerritsen too. There aree several women pictured when you google images of Lisa.

She stopped acting in 1977, so there are no definitive recent photos of her.

By the way, Lisa Gerritsen only appeared in 10 episodes of MTM, 1970-75. Then she appeared in a couple of seasons of the spin-off, "Phyliss."

Is this her?

She had a Kristy McNicol vibe and Kristy got out too.

No

David Hemmings for the win!

Forget GONY when he was only 62 (and appeared to be 75). He started looking like crap in his 30s and was pretty much a wreck by his early 40s. OTOH, he was directing TV by then so it didn’t matter.

R74, this is Michael Schoeffling

i dont understand Joan Van Ark's make-up. she actually will look better with a proper one.

Michael Schoeffling

Why do people let themselves go like that? Is it that hard to keep up your grooming and attire when out in public?

Some things are evident:

Facial hair makes an older man look much older.

Excess weight ruins almost anyone's appearance.

Smoking and sunbathing accelerate an aged appearance

Grooming is a lot more important when you're older.

R318 that is Lisa Brackmann

R318, is Brackmann Lisa Gerritson’s married name. Of all the contenders, she may be the likeliest, although is probably too young to be her (if that’s a recent pic, that is).

In order to tell if that’s Karen Valentine for sure I’d need to see a bus door close on her and then her surprised reaction to it

R325 At last, I can cancel my subscriptions to the beauty magazines.

[quote]If she must have her picture taken, she tries to make she she's always standing next to Joan Van Ark.

I used to do the same thing -- only with Joan OF Arc.

Donna Mills shows that having shoulder-length styled hair is much more flattering than the flat parted in the middle long do that so many women above 40 sport (including Joan van Ark.)

R6 just kids.......it's a joke sillies

Totally agree with R325; older guys with patchy/scruffy/mangy/grey beards almost always look older/worse. Shave, get a decent haircut, take a shower, wear some age-appropriate clothes and you'll look fine. Case in point: Richard Gere at 70.

Corbin Bernsen

MacGyver got MacFat

Richard Dean Anderson

Thank God, I haven't gotten old

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Tony Dow

For a man of 75, Tony Dow is looking pretty good.

I thought Stephen Collins was in prison.

A10 YEAR OLD VICTIM of Stephen Collins later stated that Collins then allegedly exposed himself to her and would make the victim put her hand on his penis. She says he touched and rubbed her. The victim tried to prevent these attacks by pretending to be asleep.

He should be in prison for LIFE

He wasn't prosecuted because of the statute of limitations

Prison. Iowa. Same thing R340

Sean Astin

Steve Antin

r174, Joan Van Ark reminds me of those transforming portraits in Disney's Haunted Mansion

Ann Jillian looks better than she did on her It's A Living days. That hair was always so weird to me and looked like a bad wig.

The problem with Ann's 1980s hairstyle is that Adam Rich already had it on [italic]Eight is Enough[/italic].

Speaking of Adam Rich, what does he look like today?

R345 holy shit

Johnny Rotten

Donna Wilkes

I see dead people...and lots of pot and munchies.

Add an eye lift to Sir Paul's old nose job. He looks like an old lesbian today.

Amy Winehouse

OP doesn't say that Karen looks terrible, only that he doesnt' recognize her. I wouldn't either, but I do think she looks pretty damn good for 73. I haven't made it through the whole list yet, but many that I've seen actually look really good: Lee Majors, Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick both look great. Rupert Everett, Sean Young & Tina Yothers too. Some, of course have gained a lot of weight or just haven't aged well. I know the DL runs on funny gay snark, but what strikes me the most is how difficult it must be to have been a beauty or a hunk in your younger years, and to have gotten older out of the spotlight so people don't see the change gradually. Brendan Fraser, however, WTF?

R344 Why did Sean let himself go like that. He wasn't looking too bad a few years ago.

R345 used to look like this.

The Walton's Michael Learned

I don't know why but I honestly thought Ann Jillian died of cancer like 40 years ago. She looks great though. Happy to know I was wrong.

R354 Be careful, you'll summon the Paul Is Dead troll.

R359 - what a bad eye lift - she looks horrible

[quote]I don't know why but I honestly thought Ann Jillian died of cancer like 40 years ago.

She was diagnosed with breast cancer in1985 and underwent a double mastectomy. Her battle with cancer was later dramatized in a TV movie in which she played herself.

I thought Ann Jillian was dead too, but I may be confusing her with fellow Broadway sexpot Anita Morris, who although a redhead is actually dead.

Vincent Perez

Olivier Martinez

Why do most of these celeb looks at least 10-15 years older than their actual ages? I assume most were heavy smokers, drinkers or druggies? Some had terrible plastic surgery, which was done all at once, compared to gradually? They are now poor and struggling? Which, of course, affects their physical and mental health.

People I know who are the same ages listed as these celebs, all look quite good. There sure aren't as wrinkly and saggy and none had any work done.

Some of these celebs in their 50s-60s-70s have the wrinkles of an 80-90 year old!

Michael Schoeffling, for example, is 59, he looks closer to 70 or older.

Ann Jillian is another one on the "what on earth do you do for money to live?" list, especially since her husband is her manager, he manages only her and no other actor, and that has been the case basically forever. Even with It's a Living back in circulation, the residuals can't be that much and the pension might be adequate but only that.

Johnny Whitaker

^^ Johnny Whitaker is one I certainly would never have recognized. ^^

Could be Ann Jillian invested in real estate.

Most of the people I know who own real estate properties are wealthy. One friend owns two apartment buildings, a two family brownstone he rents out and a brownstone he lives in. He hasn't had a regular job in over 20 years. He's very comfortable.

Some Ann Jillian trivia. Apparently she had a rift with Ann Miller on Sugar Babies. When Miller fell ill during rehearsals Jillian filled in for her but when Miller got better she accused the other of wanting to keep her leading part. Jillian worked out her contract then left the show but got her revenge in her made-for-TV movie The Ann Jillian Story. When it covers the show it gives the impression that she is the star and there is no mention of Miller or Mickey Rooney.

Ann Jillian was 12 years old when she played Dainty June in the movie version of "Gypsy." The younger version of her character, Baby June, was played by Morgan Brittany.

Adam Rich from "Eight is Enough"

"Why do most of these celeb looks at least 10-15 years older than their actual ages?"

Has it ever occurred to you that most of these photos are candids without hair, make-up and lighting? After that in some cases there's bad plastic surgery which I see every day among the non-show biz population.

As in the case of Adam Rich, it's so odd to see child actors from when I was already an adult who now look so much older than me.

R376 is 50 but looks 23.

I think Richard Gere has had some Botox.

He doesn't look bad, though.

I recall, not sure how true it is, that the makeup they use for movies and TV is really hard on their skin.

Besides Madonna, Lesley Ann Warren was a real heartbreaker for me:

No, r379, it's Botox and other cosmetic procedures in actors who are trying to stay young and hot forever.

The result is deformity and a lot of older characters who don't look natural or like the actor's former self.

We may recognize Mickey Rourke today because he had a comeback.

But he looks nothing like he did in his prime.

I think Lesley Ann Warren looks great - particularly when she was on Will and Grace.

A lot of these older actors (particularly male) never took care of their skin and tanned a lot in SoCal. Skin care just wasn't a thing for men 40-50 years ago. Hell, SPF wasn't really a thing - the highest SPF you could buy was 8 and that was hard to get and you were laughed at for using it.

Plus it was pre-botox - the only real way to look better was actual plastic surgery. You can't keep cutting yourself up and pulling it back.

Female actors have the benefit of long term skincare, hair pieces and makeup. Older male actors, not so much.

It will be very interesting to see what the Gen X age of actors will look like as they get into their 60's and 70's.

Sandra Bullock is 56. 40 years ago, many of these older stars would have been starring on the Love Boat at age 56, looking like they were 70.

Leslie Ann Warren doesn't look bad at all to me

Lesley Ann Warren looks fine. Keep in mind that she starred in Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Cinderella" 55 years ago. Time doesn't stand still for anyone.

"...actors who are trying to stay young and hot forever."

That's mainly so they'll continue to be employable. Even TV news anchors and reporters have gone under the knife to look "youthful enough" to do the job. I blame employer ageism as much as vanity.

Lesley Ann Warren looks great.

Honestly, once you see these pics, it just makes you appreciate Bernadette Peters and how she has been able to maintain her looks even more. It's obviously damn hard work!

Sally

Meathead

[quote] Has it ever occurred to you that most of these photos are candids without hair, make-up and lighting? After that in some cases there's bad plastic surgery which I see every day among the non-show biz population.

I don’t agree at all, I’m a photographer. I’ve taken many candid photos of friends and family during Holidays, barbecues and other occasions, there is no special lightning at these events, I don’t filter my pics or use Photoshop etc, my female relatives and female friends haven’t had their makeup applied by a professional makeup artist. Everyone looks fine, some look amazing.

Many of my family and friends, who are around the same ages as the celebs in this thread, all look light years better than these celebs.

Please don’t blame the years of celebs needing to be in heavy makeup for their films and TV series, that’s an absurd excuse. Unless the celeb has severe allergies, makeup doesn’t cause deep wrinkles, jowls or sagging. An allergic reaction usually doesn’t manifest itself in those ways.

I tend to blame the terrible plastic surgery as well as many of these people have likely been druggies, heavy drinkers and smokers. Abuse to their bodies takes its toll. I always laugh when people who were heavy into drugs, smoked and drank a lot during their teens and 20s, suddenly wonder why, in their 30s and 40s, they look 60!

r392, I don't know who your friends are, but I don't know any 50-somethings in my everyday life who look like Halle Berry, J. Lo, or George Clooney. They're all fat and wrinkled.

I always wonder why wealthy celebs and musicians always manage to find the world’s worst plastic surgeons. I know a few people who had nose jobs, their noses look fantastic. How do I know they had nose jobs, I’ve known these people since we were kids. Their noses look normal, most don't even look like they've had nose jobs.

When a celeb’s nose looks bigger after a nose job, like Melanie Griffith whose natural nose was pert and small, you just know there was heavy duty cocaine use involved. Their nose jobs look like they were in a fight with Mike Tyson!

Another problem with these celebs, they try to hold on to a fashion style or hairstyle they wore in they 20s and 30s. They don't realize how silly they look. The women keep their hair too long and they continue to be brunette, few can pull this off, maybe Demi Moore, she still looks good with the long dark hair.

All dark hair does on a wrinkly faced person is make them look much older. The crispy yellow blond hair doesn't help either, if they were natural blonds, an ash color might work. Brassy blond shades are also very aging. White or grey hair with some random dark areas actually works on people with olive and dark complexions.

These aging celebs need honest people in their lives to tell them the truth, unfortunately they surround themselves with sycophants.

R392 I partied my way through decades and I still look better facially than most of my friends and family that are my age. And half of them never drank or smoked. Its genetics,pure and simple.

[quote]I don't know who your friends are, but I don't know any 50-somethings in my everyday life who look like Halle Berry, J. Lo, or George Clooney. They're all fat and wrinkled.

It might depend where you live, I'm on the East Coast, most of my older friends and family members sure don't look like pot bellied MAGATS at a Dump rally, so that might explain things. The fattest person I knew was, ironically, a nurse. She died from MS. I actually don't know any fat people. Especially not in the field I work in.

A friend and her husband once traveled through the Midwest by car, they couldn't believe how fat people were, I laughed when she told me, "Even their dogs are fat!"

LESLEY ANN WARREN. In 1965 the television version of Cinderella was a VERY big deal. It starred Lesley Ann Warren, who was 18 at the time, aired on CBS on George Washington's birthday, Monday, February. 22. (Washington's birthday, Feb 22, was a federal holiday at the time. It happened to be a Monday that year, but we didn't have Presidents' Day of Monday holidays at the time, and we celebrated Washington's birthday on whichever day of the week the 22nd fell.)

Cinderella was rebroadcast eight times through February 1974. The 1965 debut had a Nielsen rating of 42.3, making it the highest-rated non-sports special on CBS from the beginning of the Nielsen ratings until 2009, and the 50th highest-rated show of any kind during that period.

JULIE ANDREWS. The original television version of Cinderella starred Julie Andrews at 21 years old. It aired on Sunday, March 31, 1957, at 8:00pm Eastern time, Cinderella was broadcast live in the Eastern, Central and Mountain time zones in both black and white and compatible color; the West Coast received a delayed black and white-only broadcast starting at 8:00pm Pacific time. Beyond the United States, it was carried by CBS affiliates in the U.S. territories of Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico; in Canada it was broadcast on CBC. It was produced for $376,000 and was heavily promoted by its sponsors Pepsi-Cola and the Shulton Company (then maker of Old Spice). The Nielsen TV rating for the program was 18,864,000 "homes reached during an average minute" of the broadcast. More than 107 million viewers saw the broadcast, and Andrews was nominated for an Emmy Award for her performance.

[quote][R392] I partied my way through decades and I still look better facially than most of my friends and family that are my age. And half of them never drank or smoked. Its genetics,pure and simple.

Maybe for some but not for all. If you believe what you are saying, it means all the celebs in this thread have bad genes?! Too funny.

These celebs likely overindulged. After their careers tanked, they probably stopped exercising or basically stopped caring about everything relating to their looks and health. The celebs who have bad genes obviously look worse than the others.

I have an old friend I saw a few years ago, he worked in a creative field and was a fashion model on the side. He's aged terribly, I was shocked. He was always a heavy drinker and did recreational drugs, he gained a ton of weight. His brother, who is at least 10 years older than he is, looks terrific. The brother never drank, smoked or did drugs.

There really aren’t rules, rhyme or reason to why some people age badly and some don’t. A woman I have known since she was 12 was very beautiful but then aged rapidly in her late 30’s and now has the deep wrinkles of someone 20 years older at least. She is also saggy while still being thin. She is and has always been a clean living strict Christian who never drank, smoke or did drugs.

r396 must be full of it, because there are fat people everywhere including "the East Coast"

Kathleen Turner

Mia Farrow

Julie Christy. Very cute but looks different.

Anita Ekberg

Britt Ekland. I thought she was so pretty. Married to Peter Sellers and Rod Stewart.

Liv Ullman

Britt Ekland turned into Rod Stewart. Or is it the other way around?

Annette Bening

I think Ullman looks good

R404, Miss Ekberg regrets she's unable to lunch today.

Chesty Morgan

Angela and Veronica Cartwright

Great posts, R392 and R394. Add sunbathing to the list.

[quote][R396] must be full of it, because there are fat people everywhere including "the East Coast"

Not full of it at all. Sure, I see random fat people waddling about in my neighborhood. I live in NYC, I don’t live on Long Guyland or places where you’d see tons of fat people, usually people who rarely walk and use a car to go everywhere.

I also work in a creative field, fashion promotion, most of the women I meet are near anorexic. The men are in shape and into fashion as much as the women. You think these creative people are going to put Prada on an obese body? Give me a break! Most high end fashion doesn’t come in large sizes. These people also exercise and don't take the sun.

[quote][R396] must be full of it, because there are fat people everywhere including "the East Coast"

Not full of it at all. Sure, I see random fat people waddling about in my neighborhood. I live in NYC, I don’t live on Long Guyland or places where you’d see tons of fat people, usually people who rarely walk and use a car to go everywhere.

I also work in a creative field, fashion promotion, most of the women I meet are near anorexic. The men are in shape and into fashion as much as the women. You think these creative people are going to put Prada on an obese body? Give me a break! Most high end fashion doesn’t come in large sizes. These people also exercise and don't take the sun.

R397: She's looked the same since [italic]The Sound of Music[/italic].

R394, did cocaine produce THIS?

Shirley Maclaine

I'm a female two years older than Annette Bening, of the same German-Irish ancestry, and I can't for the life of me understand how she got so lined and ancient looking. Sun? Drink and drugs? Four children?

[quote]of the same German-Irish ancestry

R419 Unless you have the same parents all bets are off

"I also work in a creative field, fashion promotion, most of the women I meet are near anorexic."

Okay, so you're admitting the people you know aren't typical.

My mom was German/Irish and had gorgeous skin even into her 70's R419 and she was a smoker and heavy drinker.

"Delta Dawn, Delta Dawn, what's that facelift you've had done..."

Tanya looks like a drag queen

Annette looks great, I think, for a female in her early 60's. It looks like she took the aged naturally look. I like her face.

Some of these people look fine to me, just a bit older.

Karen Velatin did very well. She made movies and TV movies for Disney for years. She just wasn't that great to become a mainstream adult Hollywood star so she stayed at Disney and worked and worked.

Who is Karen Velatin?

oops Valentine

Did I ruin your day?

[quote]Who is Karen Velatin?

Rhymes with gelatin!

Linda Lovelace:

Linda Hamilton

Veronica Cartwright looks great. Isn't she in her late 60's or 70's now? I'd be honored to look that good at that age.

Linda Hamilton looks great, too. She looks like a real 60-something who's seen some shit, but is still here and alive and active and ready to take what life has to throw at her. She's a real fighter and I'm happy she never got into any scary plastic surgery. Jamie Lee Curtis has a similar look and, watching the new Halloween, I could believe how refreshing it was to see a woman that age looking like a human being and still kicking ass.

The title R433 is Post pictures of stars you'd never recognize today. Since I've only seen one movie of Linda Hamilton's she is unrecognizable to me. I didn't say she didn't look good, just unrecognizable.

Linda Hamilton has always been very unique looking pretty but definitely unique.

Linda Hamilton is mentally ill, bi-polar or something, and that takes a toll on one's looks.

My Cruddy Valentine

Dame Joan Collins

That's for a movie R438.

R439 But that's what she looks like without makeup and hair.

She has makeup on to make her look that way R440.

R441 Sure, Jan.

At 85, she doesn't need old-age makeup.

Tanya Tucker looks like Gin Jan Brewer, without the wrinkles in that Grammy Awards photo.

R440 you don't know what Joan Collins EVER looked without make-up and hair!

Yes, I do. She looks like the picture in R438.

Joan Kennedy. Ethel looks better.

Joey Heatherton

Jean Shrimpton

Twiggy

Twiggy young.

Ann Margret

R448, Joey Heatherton looks about how I'd expect her to look. I just looked at her Wikipedia and she's led quite the life, between her footballer husband who exposed himself to a 10 year-old girl, and all her arrests in the 80s.

Donna Douglas of the Beverly Hillbillies

Dawn Wells, Gilligan's Island

[quote]r13 I recognized Karen Valentine immediately. She looks great.

I honestly thought that was scary Adrienne Arpel.

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Caroline Kennedy

Dyan Cannon

Dyan looks awesome!

I didn't recognize Dyan, she has so much done to her face. She looks like every other wealthy California blonde at 83.

[quote]Donna Douglas of the Beverly Hillbillies

Donna died in 2015.

I think Dyan looks great in terms of excellent plastic surgery and cosmetic dentistry. But the too young hairstyle and outfit are jarring. I loved the way they dressed Jane Fonda in Grace and Frankie and her style in general.

those old rich ladies want to continue to look like pretty women. Its not obvious or easy after 70. They don't want to look like "old ladies". Ever see Helen Mirren without makeup compared to full "pretty woman" drag? Miraculous.

I think Caroline, wrinkles and all, looks great. A very handsome woman. I'm impressed that she hasn't gone the cosmetic surgery route.

Caroline has looked like that since her 40s, skin like crumpled tissue paper. That bespeaks a total avoidance of sunscreen and an outdoor life

R455 Mary Ann looks great. She hasn't changed much since her Gilligan's Island days. Ginger, on the other hand:

Twiggy looks great. Drug abusing Joey Heatherton is lucky to be alive.

R465, no amount of plastic surgery would fix Caroline's awful skin. It must be heredity, like her aunt Eunice. A normal 62 year old does not look that bad.

R465, no amount of plastic surgery would fix Caroline's awful skin. It must be heredity, like her aunt Eunice. A normal 62 year old does not look that bad.

The lighting is great in that Dyan photo. She looks pretty rough ordinarily now with all the scary plastic surgery. She’s never going to give up that long blonde hair.

[quote]Donna died in 2015.

Well then she really looks terrific for a five-year old corpse.

Disagree about Caroline - a carbon laser peel or a more extreme phenol peel would work, but her skin is so fragile, it would be even more so afterward.

Caroline's skin may be fragile, but she retains her great bone structure.

Bone structure doesn't matter when you look like Norman Bate's mother, R474.

Twin Peaks It Girls

Caroline Kennedy is 100% instantly recognizable.

R476 Christ, seeing the three of them like that makes Lara Flynn Boyle's procedures all the more tragic.

Kyle MacLachlan

"Cocaine it's a helluva drug,"

What's wrong with Kyle MacLachlin's looks? He looks fine. Always had a weird mouth and often a grim expression, but otherwise looks good to me

There’s something so weird about Dyan Canon. With that childish hair and dress she’s almost heading into baby Jane territory.

R479 has low reading comprehension.

Geraldine Chaplin. Now look like Eileen Heckart.

James Scott aka EJ Dimera Days of Our Lives.

Will Horton would not recognize him now.

r484 Throw a blond wig on her and she's Selma Diamond.

[quote]Geraldine Chaplin. Now look like Eileen Heckart.

You say that as though it's a bad thing.

The Book Club gals all look pretty good with their flattering hair and makeup. I would not have immediately recognized Candice Bergen or Mary Steenburgen. But Fonda is ageless and Keaton has kept herself in the public's eye for the last 20 years.

The actors in the Book Club look fine but that movie was awfully corny. I couldn’t watch for long.

The only cast member who's bearable in that schlockfest is Don Johnson.

Mary Steenburgen is ageless.

Aim to be Donna Mills and not Joan van Ark.

I love Mary Steenburgen ! She looks great there. Candice was a beautiful girl in her day ,she just looks her age now.

Bond girls then and now...

R490 I think Don Johnson has aged well.

R450 , having Edina Monsoon as my PR representative has aged me beyond my years.

Jude Law

Jude Law? case closed

r488 I notice Mary and Jane are wearing couture and looking great, while Candice has gotten so heavy she doesn't care anymore, and Diane is lost as usual on her own planet.

R497 Maybe it’s temporary, He looked great on The Young Pope.

R493 well she looks like a fat lesbian now. That wasn’t inevitable.

But speaking of Murphy Brown, Faith Ford literally hasn’t changed or aged a day. She doesn’t look injected either (although I’m sure she is “tastefully”). But it’s kind of scary.

Ben Affleck seems to have recovered from his fat, tattooed, sloppy-drunk phase. You never know who’ll bounce back. Jude was so gorgeous in the Talented Mr. Ripley.

Bruce Boxleitner

[quote]Faith Ford literally hasn’t changed or aged a day.

Oh, dear.

When did Jude Law turn into a bear?

Madchen Amick looks the best of the Twin Peaks gals

Jude Law is so furry, that I still find him attractive.

Candace B, wtf up with that sweater. Just cuz you can’t fit into high fashion doesn’t mean you can’t exhibit some taste.

Candace probably dressed herself instead of using a stylist.

Jude Law is handsome.

Nice link, R294. Shirley Eaton, the Bond Girl who was dipped in gold for Goldfinger, has aged very nicely.

R497 Jude Law looks like Saul of Tarsus

It seems like a lot of guys have grown beards that aren’t flattering during the pandemic. At least in my neighborhood.

R511 I'm one of them and I just can't bring myself to shave it off.

R512 It’s understandable.

Candice looks great.

Agh! Jude looks like Randy Quaid in that pic

Here's Randy.

Seriously R6, Catherine O'Hara is almost unrecognizable. She turned 66 in March.

Looks closer to 76, if not 80.

Catherine O'Hara looks like a burn victim died and the face was transplanted onto her head.

I don't think O'Hara looks bad

There is no winning here. If you have plastic surgery you look terrible and if you don't have plastic surgery you look terrible. Catherine O'Hara looks fine. I always thought she was a tall woman and was surprised to find out she is just 5'4"

Love Geraldine Chaplin. Such a beautiful, elegant woman. I don't think she looks bad at all but some basic plastic surgery like a neck lift, and a better hairstyle and colour would do wonders.

Kate Pierson looks pretty good. She's 72! There was a recent article about Kate and her wife, Monica Coleman, in The NY Times. They live upstate NY.

Speaking of Kate Pierson, Kate and Catherine O'Hara kind of look alike. Catherine should have done a B-52s parody on Second City.

I LOVED Catherine as Lola Heatherthon AKA Joey Heatherton

Kate’s wife sounds like a total bitch in that article.

R521, once you're over a certain age, plastic surgery looks like ill-wrapped Saran Wrap over a bowl. Geraldine Chaplin is 76 years old, it's not gonna work. I thought she looked dreadful in her 30s, like she was anorexic. It ages one very rapidly.

Geraldine Chaplin and Zoe Wanamaker are two actresses with distinctive and unique faces.

r523 Don't forget that smidge of Lola Falana in the mix.

I feel badly looking at some of these pics - they look like they are at trade shows and so happy to have their pic taken.

Don't feel too bad. Those trade shows are usually good money for the actors. They can make more in a weekend than they could from doing a movie or two, especially if they're really popular and have a lot of fans.