I can't remember there being a thread about her, but she came up on another thread tonight. I love her so much. She was one of the funniest women ever, and she was quite lovely too. Plus she was one of us. but she's been forgotten because she was only famous for about twelve years, then died quite young of cancer.
Here she is doing the "Drop that Name!" number from "Bells Are Ringing"--she's a switchboard operator who has been invited to fancy party by a Broadway playwright (Dean Martin), and she can't keep up with all the name dropping at the party. If you keep her eyes on her during the number she's really terrific. At first she's frightened, but then she decides the whole thing is stupid and just plays along with it. (The dresses by Walter Plunkett are insane.)
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 47||08/01/2020|
[Quote] Plus she was one of us.
Do go on.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 1||07/31/2020|
She did not deserve the Oscar. One of the biggest mistakes ever.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 3||07/31/2020|
For some reason I never really responded to her.
She was supposed to have a lot of charm, though. Everyone only spoke well of her, from what I’ve read.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 4||07/31/2020|
Holy Christ, that's from 2009, r5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 6||07/31/2020|
While I appreciate you finally admitting and living your truth, dear Bette, this thread is about Judy not you. It isn’t lady like to hijack another person’s thread or a 1962 film called Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 9||07/31/2020|
She did a movie with Aldo Ray called "The Marrying Kind" and it was such an odd yet deeply engaging film. It was about a couple getting a divorce and then flashbacks of their courtship etc. Their chemistry is very good (always thought Ray was a hot fuck) and it is an interesting movie. Directed by George Cukor. Written by Garson Kanin and Ruth Gordon.
It really takes you for a ride but I was very impressed with it when I saw it and I had never heard of it before I came across it.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 10||07/31/2020|
I like the things I've seen her do. But I wouldn't go as far as lovely. Fat, yes. And nobody sings The Party's Over like Dame Shirley Bassey. But Polly Holliday was funny in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson. Very cute in those glasses.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 11||07/31/2020|
Polly Holliday and Don Johnson? Melanie Griffith was in the "Born Yesterday" with Don Johnson. (And John Goodman.)
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 12||07/31/2020|
R10, George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 13||07/31/2020|
Can't say as I blame him for the crush R13. He was a very sexy, masculine man. If he got to taste him too then he was one lucky fuck.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 14||07/31/2020|
There was a legendary production of Polly Holliday and Don Johnson in "Born Yesterday" at the Sacramento Playhouse in 1981. Alan Sues from TV's "Laugh-in" played the role of Harry Brock--it was supposedly a magical and unforgettable evening of theater.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 15||07/31/2020|
a friend of mine who was big into her described her as the original Teri Garr.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 16||07/31/2020|
Teri Carr was a disaster in that Disney number at the opening of the Oscars. I don't think she could pull off a musical. Though she starred in Young Frankenstein on Broadway. Not a hit for her. Jennifer Holiday would be great in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson too. I like the name Billie Dove for a character. Sounds like a silent movie star. William Wyler sure made some great films.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 17||07/31/2020|
[quote]R13 George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.
I just BET!
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 18||07/31/2020|
[quote]R17 I like the name Billie Dove for a character.
The ACTRESS in it was Billie Dove, NOT the character. Stop trying to detail the thread.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 19||07/31/2020|
I'm sorry R19 - but that's not Polly Holliday. She played Billy Dove in Born Yesterday.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 20||07/31/2020|
It’s Polly Walker, ignoramus.
She was in GREECE / GREASE
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 21||08/01/2020|
Greece is the word. When Billie Holiday returned to film to play the principal in Grease, many thought she had died years before! She was unrecognizable. She had gained so much weight and the red hair didn't suit her. But she did redeem herself in the Poseidon Adventure. A bit hammy, but still a fun performance. Billie died in the early eighties of cancer. RIP Billie Dove Holliday. Your sister Polly carries on and cousin Jennifer sang at the John Lewis memorial the other day. Precious lord, she should rest her vocal cords. Rosie O'Donnell was in Grease once. We're all connected it seems.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 22||08/01/2020|
[Quote] Holy Christ, that's from 2009, R5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?—You expect everyone here to even have BEEN here eleven years ago?
No, you twit. That thread is closed. But it provides information and opinion for your or anyone else's perusal.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 23||08/01/2020|
I watched "Born Yesterday" recently and couldn't finish it. Her acting is so strange. It's like she's a character playing another character.
But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies (Mae West, Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Harlow, Lana Turner, etc.)
Marilyn did the same thing but her character(s) were sweet and fun.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 24||08/01/2020|
Paul Douglas played Harry Brock on Broadway opened February 1946.
I seem to remember that he commented that Judy always won the gin game for real on stage.
Gary Merrill played Paul Varrell.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 25||08/01/2020|
He was rough guy sexy, but Aldo Ray was also a right wing asshole who would be in the front row of a Trump rally if he were alive today.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 26||08/01/2020|
Judy Holiday was a Jewish girls from Queens, if she was ten years younger, she'd have been able to let all of it out.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 27||08/01/2020|
Oh no, I hadn't heard that Jonathan Oppenheim died in July. Nor that he was 67. He had his mother's impish smirk. I ran into him twice, once while breaking up with a woman. He caught enough of our conversation to give me the "yikes" look. RIP.
I love love love Judy Holliday. What a pistol. Born Yesterday sure, but also It Should Happen To You.
According to the Cary biography, she went on a date with classmate Patricia Highsmith, and I cannot think of a worse pairing.
And gay, or bisexual; Holliday lived with her cop girlfriend in the Village for a while and was out about it.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 29||08/01/2020|
It's surprising that she was out about it.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 30||08/01/2020|
I'm checking the Gary Carey bio to see where I read that about her being out at the time. Will post if I find it.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 31||08/01/2020|
In this one number you can see so much of Holliday's talent from serious singing to comedy to dancing.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 32||08/01/2020|
Aldo Ray was so desperate that he ended up in a non-sexual role in a hardcore porn flick late in his life.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 33||08/01/2020|
I've always loved Judy Holliday -esp. Bells Are Ringing and The Solid Gold Cadillac. She specialized in playing innocent/dumb characters with lots of good sense and caring. Early in her career she was in a revue group with Leonard Bernstein, Betty Comden and Adolph Green. She reportedly had an IQ of 172. And, yes, people who knew her only spoke well of her. As for the Oscar -that was an incredibly competitive year. I'm sure the votes for Davis and Swanson cancelled each other out, but Holliday's performance was certainly worthy.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 34||08/01/2020|
R11 says Judy was fat. Check this video out for yourself. Judy comes in at 15:33. You see her full figure at 18:57. Fat???
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 35||08/01/2020|
She was bigger than the average starlet. Was she ever Judy fat?
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 36||08/01/2020|
That should have been "Garland fat."
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 37||08/01/2020|
She was also wonderful in the Tracy-Hepburn "Adam's Rib."
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 39||08/01/2020|
R30, she wasn't out about it in public, she just didn't marry some guy for show.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 40||08/01/2020|
R24, the very blonde Marie Wilson was at it back in the 30s and then as My Friend Irma...
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 41||08/01/2020|
R29, He died from brain cancer, leaving a wife and daughter.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 42||08/01/2020|
I like The Solid Gold Cadillac.
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 43||08/01/2020|
[quote] But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 44||08/01/2020|
R43, Jean Louis was on TTTT this week on BUZZR from 1973.
He said his only Oscar was for designing the clothes for "The Solid Gold Cadillac".
|by Mary and Ethel||reply 47||08/01/2020|