Judy Holliday

[Quote] Plus she was one of us.

Do go on.

Her son died this year.

She did not deserve the Oscar. One of the biggest mistakes ever.

For some reason I never really responded to her.

She was supposed to have a lot of charm, though. Everyone only spoke well of her, from what I’ve read.

Earlier thread.

Holy Christ, that's from 2009, r5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?

I absolutely loved her.

No talent Bitch

While I appreciate you finally admitting and living your truth, dear Bette, this thread is about Judy not you. It isn’t lady like to hijack another person’s thread or a 1962 film called Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

She did a movie with Aldo Ray called "The Marrying Kind" and it was such an odd yet deeply engaging film. It was about a couple getting a divorce and then flashbacks of their courtship etc. Their chemistry is very good (always thought Ray was a hot fuck) and it is an interesting movie. Directed by George Cukor. Written by Garson Kanin and Ruth Gordon.

It really takes you for a ride but I was very impressed with it when I saw it and I had never heard of it before I came across it.

I like the things I've seen her do. But I wouldn't go as far as lovely. Fat, yes. And nobody sings The Party's Over like Dame Shirley Bassey. But Polly Holliday was funny in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson. Very cute in those glasses.

Polly Holliday and Don Johnson? Melanie Griffith was in the "Born Yesterday" with Don Johnson. (And John Goodman.)

R10, George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.

Can't say as I blame him for the crush R13. He was a very sexy, masculine man. If he got to taste him too then he was one lucky fuck.

There was a legendary production of Polly Holliday and Don Johnson in "Born Yesterday" at the Sacramento Playhouse in 1981. Alan Sues from TV's "Laugh-in" played the role of Harry Brock--it was supposedly a magical and unforgettable evening of theater.

a friend of mine who was big into her described her as the original Teri Garr.

Teri Carr was a disaster in that Disney number at the opening of the Oscars. I don't think she could pull off a musical. Though she starred in Young Frankenstein on Broadway. Not a hit for her. Jennifer Holiday would be great in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson too. I like the name Billie Dove for a character. Sounds like a silent movie star. William Wyler sure made some great films.

[quote]R13 George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.

I just BET!

[quote]R17 I like the name Billie Dove for a character.

The ACTRESS in it was Billie Dove, NOT the character. Stop trying to detail the thread.

Asshole.

I'm sorry R19 - but that's not Polly Holliday. She played Billy Dove in Born Yesterday.

It’s Polly Walker, ignoramus.

She was in GREECE / GREASE

Greece is the word. When Billie Holiday returned to film to play the principal in Grease, many thought she had died years before! She was unrecognizable. She had gained so much weight and the red hair didn't suit her. But she did redeem herself in the Poseidon Adventure. A bit hammy, but still a fun performance. Billie died in the early eighties of cancer. RIP Billie Dove Holliday. Your sister Polly carries on and cousin Jennifer sang at the John Lewis memorial the other day. Precious lord, she should rest her vocal cords. Rosie O'Donnell was in Grease once. We're all connected it seems.

[Quote] Holy Christ, that's from 2009, R5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?—You expect everyone here to even have BEEN here eleven years ago?

No, you twit. That thread is closed. But it provides information and opinion for your or anyone else's perusal.

I watched "Born Yesterday" recently and couldn't finish it. Her acting is so strange. It's like she's a character playing another character.

But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies (Mae West, Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Harlow, Lana Turner, etc.)

Marilyn did the same thing but her character(s) were sweet and fun.

Paul Douglas played Harry Brock on Broadway opened February 1946.

I seem to remember that he commented that Judy always won the gin game for real on stage.

Gary Merrill played Paul Varrell.

He was rough guy sexy, but Aldo Ray was also a right wing asshole who would be in the front row of a Trump rally if he were alive today.

Judy Holiday was a Jewish girls from Queens, if she was ten years younger, she'd have been able to let all of it out.

I doubt that.

Oh no, I hadn't heard that Jonathan Oppenheim died in July. Nor that he was 67. He had his mother's impish smirk. I ran into him twice, once while breaking up with a woman. He caught enough of our conversation to give me the "yikes" look. RIP.

I love love love Judy Holliday. What a pistol. Born Yesterday sure, but also It Should Happen To You.

According to the Cary biography, she went on a date with classmate Patricia Highsmith, and I cannot think of a worse pairing.

And gay, or bisexual; Holliday lived with her cop girlfriend in the Village for a while and was out about it.

It's surprising that she was out about it.

I'm checking the Gary Carey bio to see where I read that about her being out at the time. Will post if I find it.

In this one number you can see so much of Holliday's talent from serious singing to comedy to dancing.

Aldo Ray was so desperate that he ended up in a non-sexual role in a hardcore porn flick late in his life.

I've always loved Judy Holliday -esp. Bells Are Ringing and The Solid Gold Cadillac. She specialized in playing innocent/dumb characters with lots of good sense and caring. Early in her career she was in a revue group with Leonard Bernstein, Betty Comden and Adolph Green. She reportedly had an IQ of 172. And, yes, people who knew her only spoke well of her. As for the Oscar -that was an incredibly competitive year. I'm sure the votes for Davis and Swanson cancelled each other out, but Holliday's performance was certainly worthy.

R11 says Judy was fat. Check this video out for yourself. Judy comes in at 15:33. You see her full figure at 18:57. Fat???

She was bigger than the average starlet. Was she ever Judy fat?

That should have been "Garland fat."

With Oscar.

She was also wonderful in the Tracy-Hepburn "Adam's Rib."

R30, she wasn't out about it in public, she just didn't marry some guy for show.

R24, the very blonde Marie Wilson was at it back in the 30s and then as My Friend Irma...

R29, He died from brain cancer, leaving a wife and daughter.

I like The Solid Gold Cadillac.

[quote] But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies

*ahem*

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Jourdan

Sorry -- wrong thread!

R43, Jean Louis was on TTTT this week on BUZZR from 1973.

He said his only Oscar was for designing the clothes for "The Solid Gold Cadillac".