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Judy Holliday

I can't remember there being a thread about her, but she came up on another thread tonight. I love her so much. She was one of the funniest women ever, and she was quite lovely too. Plus she was one of us. but she's been forgotten because she was only famous for about twelve years, then died quite young of cancer.

Here she is doing the "Drop that Name!" number from "Bells Are Ringing"--she's a switchboard operator who has been invited to fancy party by a Broadway playwright (Dean Martin), and she can't keep up with all the name dropping at the party. If you keep her eyes on her during the number she's really terrific. At first she's frightened, but then she decides the whole thing is stupid and just plays along with it. (The dresses by Walter Plunkett are insane.)

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by Mary and Ethelreply 4708/01/2020

[Quote] Plus she was one of us.

Do go on.

by Mary and Ethelreply 107/31/2020

Her son died this year.

by Mary and Ethelreply 207/31/2020

She did not deserve the Oscar. One of the biggest mistakes ever.

by Mary and Ethelreply 307/31/2020

For some reason I never really responded to her.

She was supposed to have a lot of charm, though. Everyone only spoke well of her, from what I’ve read.

by Mary and Ethelreply 407/31/2020

Earlier thread.

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by Mary and Ethelreply 507/31/2020

Holy Christ, that's from 2009, r5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?

by Mary and Ethelreply 607/31/2020

I absolutely loved her.

by Mary and Ethelreply 707/31/2020

No talent Bitch

by Mary and Ethelreply 807/31/2020

While I appreciate you finally admitting and living your truth, dear Bette, this thread is about Judy not you. It isn’t lady like to hijack another person’s thread or a 1962 film called Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

by Mary and Ethelreply 907/31/2020

She did a movie with Aldo Ray called "The Marrying Kind" and it was such an odd yet deeply engaging film. It was about a couple getting a divorce and then flashbacks of their courtship etc. Their chemistry is very good (always thought Ray was a hot fuck) and it is an interesting movie. Directed by George Cukor. Written by Garson Kanin and Ruth Gordon.

It really takes you for a ride but I was very impressed with it when I saw it and I had never heard of it before I came across it.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1007/31/2020

I like the things I've seen her do. But I wouldn't go as far as lovely. Fat, yes. And nobody sings The Party's Over like Dame Shirley Bassey. But Polly Holliday was funny in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson. Very cute in those glasses.

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by Mary and Ethelreply 1107/31/2020

Polly Holliday and Don Johnson? Melanie Griffith was in the "Born Yesterday" with Don Johnson. (And John Goodman.)

by Mary and Ethelreply 1207/31/2020

R10, George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1307/31/2020

Can't say as I blame him for the crush R13. He was a very sexy, masculine man. If he got to taste him too then he was one lucky fuck.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1407/31/2020

There was a legendary production of Polly Holliday and Don Johnson in "Born Yesterday" at the Sacramento Playhouse in 1981. Alan Sues from TV's "Laugh-in" played the role of Harry Brock--it was supposedly a magical and unforgettable evening of theater.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1507/31/2020

a friend of mine who was big into her described her as the original Teri Garr.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1607/31/2020

Teri Carr was a disaster in that Disney number at the opening of the Oscars. I don't think she could pull off a musical. Though she starred in Young Frankenstein on Broadway. Not a hit for her. Jennifer Holiday would be great in Born Yesterday with Don Johnson too. I like the name Billie Dove for a character. Sounds like a silent movie star. William Wyler sure made some great films.

by Mary and Ethelreply 1707/31/2020

[quote]R13 George Cukor had a major crush on Aldo Ray, who let Cukor orally service him on a regular basis.

I just BET!

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by Mary and Ethelreply 1807/31/2020

[quote]R17 I like the name Billie Dove for a character.

The ACTRESS in it was Billie Dove, NOT the character. Stop trying to detail the thread.


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by Mary and Ethelreply 1907/31/2020

I'm sorry R19 - but that's not Polly Holliday. She played Billy Dove in Born Yesterday.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2007/31/2020

It’s Polly Walker, ignoramus.

She was in GREECE / GREASE

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by Mary and Ethelreply 2108/01/2020

Greece is the word. When Billie Holiday returned to film to play the principal in Grease, many thought she had died years before! She was unrecognizable. She had gained so much weight and the red hair didn't suit her. But she did redeem herself in the Poseidon Adventure. A bit hammy, but still a fun performance. Billie died in the early eighties of cancer. RIP Billie Dove Holliday. Your sister Polly carries on and cousin Jennifer sang at the John Lewis memorial the other day. Precious lord, she should rest her vocal cords. Rosie O'Donnell was in Grease once. We're all connected it seems.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2208/01/2020

[Quote] Holy Christ, that's from 2009, R5. You really expect people to have eleven year memories for Datalounge threads?—You expect everyone here to even have BEEN here eleven years ago?

No, you twit. That thread is closed. But it provides information and opinion for your or anyone else's perusal.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2308/01/2020

I watched "Born Yesterday" recently and couldn't finish it. Her acting is so strange. It's like she's a character playing another character.

But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies (Mae West, Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Harlow, Lana Turner, etc.)

Marilyn did the same thing but her character(s) were sweet and fun.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2408/01/2020

Paul Douglas played Harry Brock on Broadway opened February 1946.

I seem to remember that he commented that Judy always won the gin game for real on stage.

Gary Merrill played Paul Varrell.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2508/01/2020

He was rough guy sexy, but Aldo Ray was also a right wing asshole who would be in the front row of a Trump rally if he were alive today.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2608/01/2020

Judy Holiday was a Jewish girls from Queens, if she was ten years younger, she'd have been able to let all of it out.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2708/01/2020

I doubt that.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2808/01/2020

Oh no, I hadn't heard that Jonathan Oppenheim died in July. Nor that he was 67. He had his mother's impish smirk. I ran into him twice, once while breaking up with a woman. He caught enough of our conversation to give me the "yikes" look. RIP.

I love love love Judy Holliday. What a pistol. Born Yesterday sure, but also It Should Happen To You.

According to the Cary biography, she went on a date with classmate Patricia Highsmith, and I cannot think of a worse pairing.

And gay, or bisexual; Holliday lived with her cop girlfriend in the Village for a while and was out about it.

by Mary and Ethelreply 2908/01/2020

It's surprising that she was out about it.

by Mary and Ethelreply 3008/01/2020

I'm checking the Gary Carey bio to see where I read that about her being out at the time. Will post if I find it.

by Mary and Ethelreply 3108/01/2020

In this one number you can see so much of Holliday's talent from serious singing to comedy to dancing.

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by Mary and Ethelreply 3208/01/2020

Aldo Ray was so desperate that he ended up in a non-sexual role in a hardcore porn flick late in his life.

by Mary and Ethelreply 3308/01/2020

I've always loved Judy Holliday -esp. Bells Are Ringing and The Solid Gold Cadillac. She specialized in playing innocent/dumb characters with lots of good sense and caring. Early in her career she was in a revue group with Leonard Bernstein, Betty Comden and Adolph Green. She reportedly had an IQ of 172. And, yes, people who knew her only spoke well of her. As for the Oscar -that was an incredibly competitive year. I'm sure the votes for Davis and Swanson cancelled each other out, but Holliday's performance was certainly worthy.

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by Mary and Ethelreply 3408/01/2020

R11 says Judy was fat. Check this video out for yourself. Judy comes in at 15:33. You see her full figure at 18:57. Fat???

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by Mary and Ethelreply 3508/01/2020

She was bigger than the average starlet. Was she ever Judy fat?

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by Mary and Ethelreply 3608/01/2020

That should have been "Garland fat."

by Mary and Ethelreply 3708/01/2020

With Oscar.

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by Mary and Ethelreply 3808/01/2020

She was also wonderful in the Tracy-Hepburn "Adam's Rib."

by Mary and Ethelreply 3908/01/2020

R30, she wasn't out about it in public, she just didn't marry some guy for show.

by Mary and Ethelreply 4008/01/2020

R24, the very blonde Marie Wilson was at it back in the 30s and then as My Friend Irma...

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by Mary and Ethelreply 4108/01/2020

R29, He died from brain cancer, leaving a wife and daughter.

by Mary and Ethelreply 4208/01/2020

I like The Solid Gold Cadillac.

by Mary and Ethelreply 4308/01/2020

[quote] But she was the first dumb blonde, I think; up til then blondes were smart cookies


by Mary and Ethelreply 4408/01/2020






De Gaulle


by Mary and Ethelreply 4508/01/2020

Sorry -- wrong thread!

by Mary and Ethelreply 4608/01/2020

R43, Jean Louis was on TTTT this week on BUZZR from 1973.

He said his only Oscar was for designing the clothes for "The Solid Gold Cadillac".

by Mary and Ethelreply 4708/01/2020
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