Sanders Campaign Co-Chair: Choosing Joe Biden Over Trump Is Like Only Having To “Eat Half A Bowl Of Shit”

Yes, we know

Mine's better.

Better than the full bowl of shit Nina wants us to eat.

This is good news for Uncle Joe. He needs SOME sniping from the left so as not to scare the oldsters

R2 no

So what does it say about Bernie that primary voters came out in droves to choose a half bowl of shit over Bernie?

They refuse to accept the country is scared of some progressive ideas due to relentless right wing attacks over decades. They need to accept primary-ing moderate candidates in more conservative states is a losing proposition. Win the PR war for which they’ve made a lot of progress. However, I’m dismayed that Dems have made concessions after concession to them yet they’re still bitching and slandering. Fuck them. I’m about over their bullshit.

Biden is a non entity at this point. The choice is between trump and Biden’s vp.

[quote]Biden is a non entity at this point.

And Bernie's been a non-entity for months.

Bitter Black Bitch would lick the bowl clean if Biden offered her the VP slot.

Im convinced the posters who promote these Bernie threads are ‘bots trying to stir up trouble ... no progressive wants 🍊💩 to nominate the next SCOTUS judge ...

These far left are no friends of the Democratic Party.

r11, maybe.

However, they are like the Tea Party that undid the Republicans before Trumpism. Primary'd incumbents then lost in the General. They do a lot of damage.

Aunt Tom. Cunt.

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Bernie supporters are a different side of the deplorable coin.

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I automatically tune out anyone who says the current Democratic Party is no better than the current republican party. I also turn out people who say the Democratic Party of the past 30 years is the same as the Republican party of the past 30 years. We have not had longer than a two year stretch of total democratic control since Kennedy/Johnson aside from Carter who was also cleaning up a mess. Both President Clinton and President Obama would’ve had presidencies that were much more progressive had they not encountered Republican controlled Congresses after midterm elections. 90% of the things they did they wouldn’t have done with a Dem Congress. These are no friends of our party or cause.

Better a half-bowl of shit than a full one

Nina Turner: Keep your fucking eyes on the prize. We have to fucking win and get Trump the hell out. Sanders lost. Get on board with Biden or STFU. It's people like you who could contribute to Biden losing. Goddammit, STFU.

The alternative is Trump--and that's a whole lot worse than a full bowl of shit. Save the country. Vote for Biden.

These people have no idea how politics work. I agree, Dems would have been far more progressive if they had longer than 2 years of total control during Clinton and Obama. They don’t get that.

Ms Turner is OUT OF A JOB!

What is wrong with her?

She's right though

One of my former managers called me earlier to check in (and gossip). As we were finishing I asked her if her 80 y/o, Jewish husband, who had a moderate case of Corvid, was still planning to vote for 45. Mind you, these are people who have known him personally for 30 years and have always thought of him as a fuckwad.

She said that she suspected that he probably would, not because of Joe but because Joe MIGHT capitulate to the "far left". American capitalism allowed this guy to be successful and, as a self made man, he could never support socialism. Or, I suspect, the messengers who are espousing it. In this way, stories like this are dangerous.

We said our goodbyes and hung up with me pondering how socialism is somehow worse than an incompetent, drug-addled dictator. The best I can come up with is that over the course of his life he has seen socialist countries and has a framework for what that used to look like, but is similarly stuck in the past and not seeing where we actually are and thus doesn't believe that we could fall over the edge. Soon.

It's good to see that she has the country's best interest at heart. No, Joe wasn't my first choice but it's time to move forward you selfish bitch.

[quote]She's right though

She's right out of a job you mean. She obviously wasn't good enough at her job to pick a winner or elevate her choice to be a winner. She makes shitty choices.

[quote]She's right though

She's right of center. Much to her own chagrin.

I also preferred Sanders or Warren over Biden, but to compare voting for Biden with eating a bowl of shit is why I can't stomach the mentality of many Bernie Brothers and Sisters. The have another 4 years of Trump as president you myopic assholes. Some of them are the flip side of Trumpsters, and that is not a compliment, it's just another toxic approach to society.

[quote]The best I can come up with is that over the course of his life he has seen socialist countries and has a framework for what that used to look like

You are giving people too much credit. My partners shitty relatives back east who are ALL Trumpeters use that "very concerned about socialism" line all the time and most of them don't even know what the word means. None of them are over the age of 50 so its not like they grew up in an old world reality. It's just Faux News talking points repeated by the Trumpian masses.

I tried to explain to them it's not what they think, but the door is shut, their minds are closed and "i'm the one living in a bubble".

She's not lying.

No, she is not lying, she is whining. Someone get her a tiny violin.

I love how she still talks about the “enthusiasm” for Bernie. Yes, Bernie Sanders supporters were very enthusiastic—just not enough to actually show up and vote.

Bernie’s candidacy is a textbook example of why the “enthusiasm gap” between Biden and Trump is a bunch of bullshit. Enthusiasm doesn’t mean dick if the other guy simply has more people who want to vote for him.

Life is the same for many Americans and they just don't notice too much. Trump is popular with many and with others he is a non entity and their lives have not changed much, but now COVID has changed this paradigm. Biden may benefit from Covid.

The DNC really fuck over all Americans when they went with Bloomberg's plan. If Biden gets elected, he will be a one term president. The Republicans will run against Biden in 2024. They are going to destroy him. And then we are in hell again for 4 to 8 years with another Republican Nutjob.

It is the Republicans, not just Trump. The Republicans could have impeached Trump too.

This is way the VP pick has to be Elizabeth Warren. Someone with the experience to be President.

Biden wasn't my first choice, but the other candidates who I preferred lost. So now I'm on board with Biden. And he's a decent guy with years of experience. Yes, he's too old, but so is Trump. Plus Trump is a criminal, he and his administration are corrupt. Trump is a liar, fraud and a reckless incompetent. Biden is none of those things. He's a respectable, seasoned leader.

So whether he was my first choice or not, Biden is the ONLY CHOICE. Damn, this Nina Turner pisses me off. Another Susan Sarandon. Are they all happy about that? Hillary would have been an excellent president. But no, people like Sarandon and Turner have to keep pushing Sanders. He fucking LOST--and to keep on pushing Sanders could cause the Dems to lose. No matter what the polls say about Biden in the lead...take nothing for granted. This drive to get Trump out isn't over until the night of Nov 3.

I believe Warren would be the best VP choice for Biden for the election and for the new administration. If Biden can't or doesn't run in 2024, Warren would be a strong 2024 candidate.

the media and the DNC seeked to discredit and undermine Bernie and his movement every step of the way. Don't be surprised when Joe loses. That is on y'all because we TRIED to warn you.

R37. I agree with you, but in four years, Elizabeth Warren will be 75 years old. I hate to discriminate against Warren--she's smart and a good fighter, but I think we will get into that same issue about her being too old. I think the Dems have to look for someone in his/her 50s or 60s. Or maybe Pete Buttigieg who will be 42 in four years. I still like Kamala Harris who could be the next VP and in 2024, she will be 59, which is a perfect age for president.

Then perhaps Warren/Buttigieg in 2024.

R40. If the Dems don't have a strong candidate in 2024, then I would go with Warren--I like her; however, she will be 75 years old in 2024. I just think that's too old. Biden is too old, but I am supporting him 100 percent because he's the nominee and we must defeat Trump.

Don't forget...if Biden wins in 2020, don't be surprised if he runs for reelection in 2024. He has never said that he would be a one-term president. If he's healthy, don't expect him or any politician to give up power so easily. Biden is currently 77. He will turn 78 in November this year. If he were to run again in 2024, he will be 82 and take office in Jan 2025 at 83.

[quote] Nina Turner, a co-chair of the Sanders campaign, told me she has no appetite for the choice she faces: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

How vivid.

I certainly care about the opinions of such a classy person.

What is this thing about picking Warren-- an old white lady-- just to appease the progressives? If Biden picks Warren, this will piss off the Black vote. This is like ignoring the person who saved your life. Are you kidding me? The Black vote is a reliable voting bloc,, the youth vote is not.

I'm with R39. Kamala is the best pick.

It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

Best campaign slogan ever - can I get it on a bumper sticker.

Bernie come back, we need you.

Nina's right.

Fuck off, Bernie bros.

Thank God, Bernie is not running.

silly, silly dingbat. There is an intelligent Left, then there are silly, silly dingbats. She is the latter.

This woman seems like a pile of shit herself. And she was Sander's "campaign co-chair?" Well, that certainly says a lot about HIM.

She is the corporate version of the Left. The pain in the ass that got herself into a position with a title and now is taken much too seriously.

Get another girl. And a cup.

Joe really is the best shot. I liked Warren and Bernie, but Joe is the best shot to win over the scared people that voted for Trump for stupid reasons and now are finally re-evaluating. I think he'll pull it out, where they might not have.

[quote] Joe is the best shot to win over the scared people that voted for Trump for stupid reasons and now are finally re-evaluating.

Exactly, and a lot of these voters are in the swing states. The best and most effective ads against Trump are made by former Republicans.

R45. Nina may be right, but that's debatable. However, I want to win. Bernie lost. Biden won the primary. It's time to vote for Biden. And Biden is infinitely better than Trump even if Biden wasn't your first Dem choice. Trump is a fucking criminal. Jesus Christ, Nina!

She is every middle manager that looks good in the meeting until you realize she actually sucks at the job and has nothing to offer.

My pussy stinks!

[quote} Bernie’s candidacy is a textbook example of why the “enthusiasm gap” between Biden and Trump is a bunch of bullshit. Enthusiasm doesn’t mean dick if the other guy simply has more people who want to vote for him.

p.s., This also explains why so many MAGAs think Joe is so far to the left. He's not. They are way far to the right but not willing to admit to themselves they are the ones way out on a limb.

the enthusiasm is hatred of Trump. That is what is happening that the goobers don't want to cover. That is what the deal is this year. People who hate Trump FUCKING HATE TRUMP. That is the deal this year.

I agree that mainstream democrats don't go far enough in their criticism of how capitalism has run amok. And I don't like much of their foreign policy. But while democrats won't do everything necessary to help the poor and struggling, republicans will actively do NOTHING.

I read months ago that some Bernie Bros were trying to push the idea of Nina Turner or some other Bernie staffer as VP, “to bring the progressive wing of the party along.”

She has zero qualifications other than she’s an extremist far left person, but maybe she believed she had a shot, or maybe she put the idea out there herself to try to drum up interest. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

This was put out a while back. Notice they’re threatening to refuse to vote if she’s not VP.

So did she approach Biden to be vetted and was given a polite no?

Cornel West and Nina Turner are two of the biggest grifters, con artists, and gasbags on the current scene.

Other than complaining about what everyone in the country is doing wrong, and kneeling at the altar of that sad backbencher nobody Bernie Sanders, they are otherwise both unemployable!

[quote]This is way the VP pick has to be Elizabeth Warren. Someone with the experience to be President.

HUH? Elizabeth Warren is a shape-shifting opportunist. No former Reagan lover (during the AIDS crisis!) has any experience at anything! She will never be widely appealing because she's not authentic, I don't trust her at all. See how poorly she played her glimmer of a VP shot....by refusing to endorse the obvious winner Joe Biden until her endorsement became irrelevant...like the rest of her career! We HAVE heard the last of Elizabeth Warren!

Nina Turner is actually right...in a way.

Of all the people who didn't vote during the primaries, the most enthusiastic non-voters were the ones who non-voted for Bernie Sanders!

"They refuse to accept the country is scared of some progressive ideas due to relentless left-wing shift and institutional takeover over decades."

Fixed that for you, R7

I agree with Bernie on lots of stuff, but she is guys supporters are driving nuts. When Joe blows out the election, I hope they fuck off and die to whatever hole they crawled out of.

Rose Twitter is also dragging Kamala as a VP pic. A bunch of spolied white folks dragging highly qualified black candidates because they aren't for free college. They can really FOAD.

You ain't black!

See U Next Tuesday, Nina.

Elizabeth “And a trans child shall lead them!” Warren couldn’t even place second in her own state’s primary.

In this case, is the bowl half-empty or half-full?

Biden's platform is 80% of Bernie's, which I guess is itself 40% shit then? You never hear just WHAT it is they want.

We are at 100% shit right now. Cornel and Nina need to be concentrating on a Democratic Senate or forfeit any claim of being legit concerned about improving the lives of the working class.

My pussy stinks!

Sarandon died her hair blonde 👱‍♀️?

Most people are rightly afraid of extremes.

So much for Sanders doing everything he can for the winner of the Democratic primary. If he cant stop his campaign Co-Chair from making a comment like that then he has no clue how to run a country or bring people together.

As for her, I am glad she said that because she permanently shit herself on her own career moving on into the future. Had she kept her mouth shut and showed a little class and respect for the actual winner maybe she would have been hired in the future for some other campaign. No ones is going to want to touch her after that scat comment.

She's the Rosa Parks of our time.

R74. I guess she can't have a different opinion about biden even though she is to the left of you. How dare she not bow to the greatest named biden.

R76 She can have a different opinion without being crass and insulting. There was a time in this country when people, especially those in the public eye, behaved and spoke like ladies and gentlemen.

RASHIDA TLAIB ON WHY SHE WON'T ENDORSE JOE BIDEN

[quote] Tlaib: He hasn't directly called me or anything, but, no, right now I'm focused on my election, my constituents and my residents. One thing that I know is I'm going to be really focused on turnout in the fall. When I focus on turnout, we will deliver Michigan to Joe Biden. Trump only won Michigan by 10,000 votes. When I turn out my folks and my district, we'll be able to take back the state. When you focus primarily on getting people out to vote in a district like mine, [Biden] wins.

[quote] Q: So you want him to win?

[quote] Tlaib: If there is one person who wants Donald Trump out of the White House, it's me. And I'm going to work extremely hard. I don't have to have a campaign plan for November because I have a safe Democratic seat, but I'm going to [campaign]. Why? Because my residents cannot afford another four years of Trump. They just can't.

[quote] Q: Then why is difficult for you to just say "I endorse Joe Biden for president?"

[quote] Tlaib: Because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents. Residents come up to me and say, "Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that." I say, "Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that." If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden. My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, "Is he the best candidate?" That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump.

R77. That is rich coming from people like you who don't mind been crass towards trump supporters. Talk about hypocrisy.

No matter we are doomed.

Some of you need to take a good look at some unvarnished article or two about Biden's record. History has proven him to be on the wrong side of almost every issue. He's never been progressive, if anything he's always been regressive. He certainly had to 'evolve' on LBGTQ+ rights. In 1973 he agreed that gays were "security risks" to the US. But of course that's just one issue. There are many.

Oh yes, r76, you're pressing this blue MAGA shit! How adorable! That Biden supporters are just tankies who are no better than Trump supporters in demanding loyalty.

Not quite, dummy. You shitheads are taking every opportunity to tear down Biden instead of the REAL ENEMY. You're still bitter than Bernie didn't win. It was rigged, right? Low information voters? Other coded racist words?

R76. Wow you assume so much about someone you do not know. Projecting much. You accuse others of what you are doing which is tearing down those you disagree with. First of all moron, I am neither a Bernie fan nor am I a trump supporter. You fall back on unto temper tantrum which proved my point. Have fun been an irrational liberal dimwit. The random caps tells me you have no emotional maturity.

The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

Lots of Trump trolls on here.

Hey, I'm not in the public eye or running for office.

I think Putin was hedging his bets backing both Trump and Bernie. Their supporters are so similar. All they know how to do is hysterically bully and insult those who don't agree with them.

Yes trolls are here.

Biden isn’t good enough. He’s regressive. He’s just as bad.

Finger yourselves with a rusty nail.

Nobody would have predicted FDR would become this liberal icon and top 3 greatest ever when he was Gov. of NY.

I’m supremely confident in Biden and I see A LOT of affection for him. Your orchestrated campaign to change this will not work. Your prez is a fucking disaster of biblical proportions.

She’s right, but I’m doing it.

But I won’t eat shit from any of the conservatives on DL who expect me to embrace Joe Biden uncritically and unconditionally and try to demonize supporters of Bernie Sanders.

Bernie’s usually right and I’m not ashamed of my vote for him. Donald Trump and Joe Biden are NOT the best America can do.

Don’t come at me, BidenBots. You got what you wanted. I’m voting for your warmongering, bumbling, Anita Hill-bullying, ,girl-groping grandpa and so is America.

So STFU.

Is Joe Biden my dream candidate? No. Am I going to waste my vote and help Trump win another term just to spite the Democratic party for forcing a candidate on me that I don't want. FUCK NO.

R89 Conservatives? Fuck you, prick. I’m sick of dividers like you claiming anybody who doesn’t want every progressive policy in full is a conservative. Fuck you.

Politically, many of these positions aren’t feasible. I’m pretty much a socialist but I realize it’s smart to run a bit more moderate. Republicans do this all the time.

You HAVE to remember and understand, Clinton and Obama would have had much more progressive presidencies had they actually had a Dem Congress for more than 2 years.

R90 The party did not force anybody on you. VOTERS voted for Biden. Period. End of. You don’t like it? Get more progressive minded candidates to vote and win the PR spin.

This is but one example of why I dislike Bernie Sanders and his supporters.

Both Nina Turner and Cornel West are idiots. They are just huge egotists with few (if any) redeeming qualities. Biden has accomplished more than Bernie has so you have to wonder what these people are talking about.

This is a troll thread. They’re losing. Most Bernie supporters gladly support Biden. I know many who didn’t vote, voted for Stein, voted for Pres Bone Spurs, and NONE of them have ANY reservations about voting for Biden. The last 4 years have woken them up.

[quote] The DNC really fuck over all Americans when they went with Bloomberg's plan.

Idiot. Yes, the DNC held millions of Americans at gunpoint during the primary and forced them to vote for Biden. Why don't people even bother to look at facts anymore.

You want the Democratic Party to be more progressive than it already is? Convince more people that those progressive policies are best and get Dems enough voters to, you know, win. Do you think you can win ANY election in a swing state/ district without convincing moderates of this? I think they’re persuadable because republicans have proven they aren’t moderate and conservative policies don’t work but you’re still going to have to focus and win them over.

Fuck that shit, R97. We need to start demanding that they either vote for Biden or it’s back to slavery.

R81 is a Trump supporter.

R99 I fuckin hate Trump, but it doesn't mean I have to love Joe Biden. (R81)

R99 I don’t give a fuck about his past record or holding him accountable for it. He’s a good man.

Good enough for Obama = good enough for me. Only Russians or republicans want to dredge up Biden’s record. WE ALL KNOW! R81 stfu. You’re the former or latter.

It's nothing compared to the criminal we now have in office.

R101 You sound like an idiot. You probably would have supported Joe McCarthy in the 50s. Define "good man".

Four months ago I would have said "Oh come on, we had a Black president for eight years, America's progressive enough that we can have a Jewish president." Apparently not. Just the prospect of having a president with two X chromosomes frightened the shit out of so many people that they either ran straight to Trump or stayed home in 2016. I think the DNC saw the writing on the wall this year and though they let the women and Asians and Black candidates and that gay guy run, they rigged the primaries for the straightest, whitest, Christianist old guy available. And I think they made the right call. Americans are reactionary motherfuckers.

R103 No, Boris. How’s your dictator Putin doing?

R104 Voters voting is not rigging anything you Fucking moron.

r25 = textbook hysterical Republican slandering the situation.

Sanders doesn't want communism and all Republicans supports socialism in the government.

LOL comparing Joe McCarthy to Biden? The only thing they have in common is that they are both named Joe.

You and Joe Biden ARE conservatives, r91, so FUCK YOU. Biden's even a neoconservative.

Your ONLY value is in getting rid of Trump. But you're still an evil supporter and obstruction of justice so don't expect me to kiss your ass or Biden's.

Tell it to the destabilized Middle East and 250,000 innocent Iraqis killed or 4,000 U.S. troops slaughtered for imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction.

R108, you really are a troll. Why are you blaming Joe Biden for the Iraq invasion? Congress was given false information! Biden was against the Libya invasion btw. Biden is not a conservative. Saying it 1 million times doesn't make it true.

R108 trolling trolling trolling keep up that trolling rolling, rawlies!

Nina Turner is confused. It’s she herself who is a FULL bowl of steaming watery shit.

R104 that was the best troll thread I have seen. That last part about the primaries being rigged was expert stuff. Tell your supervisor you’re ready to go straight to Twitter.

The lies these Bernie fanatics tell themselves. I've seen some far leftists even claim Bernie was purposefully ousted because he was a supporter of leftist regimes--you know, ones like Venezuela, Cuba under Castro, etc. The simple fact is Bernie has a fanatical fanbase but nobody else cares about him. THE END.

There is zero doubt the Sanders campaign was infiltrated by Americans paid by Russia. Zero. If Biden agreed to 100% of what Bernie wanted they’d still tear him down. I’m done with them. They’re compromised.

Both Trump's and Sanders' campaigns were boosted with dirty Russian oligarch money.

divide and conquer

GOP knows young people and minorities more likely vote for Dems.

R108, Bernie signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, which goal was to oust Saddam Hussein, he was also in favor of regime change in Libya.

I’m so tired of these Bernie deplorables. They can all eat shit and die with Susan sarancunt

[quote] Bernie signed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, which goal was to oust Saddam Hussein, he was also in favor of regime change in Libya.

Don't expect R108 to change their tune. This person posts this shit all the time on threads about Biden/Bernie btw.

[quote]...they rigged the primaries for the straightest, whitest, Christianist old guy available.

Yep, some of that half a bowl of shit from Nina went into this guy's brain!

"Rigged" primaries! Yeah, all those millions of voters were forced by the DNC to "Stay Home for Bernie!"

Sad losers.

I put on my mask and made it to the local middle school to vote for Biden in the NY primary, just to make sure Bernie Bros wouldn't try to make mischief in NY.

R104 I’m so glad was called out as a troll. Rigged primaries my ass. Rigged if you mean voters came out for Joe then yes it was rigged by voters. Bernie should’ve tried it once.

Where is this article about a Bernie Sanders interview he did some 10 years ago where he said he would never run 3rd party because he knew it would benefit the GOP and enable a dictator to win?

Somebody bookmarked it?

Shitstain Bernie knows exactly what he is doing, he's been kiss-assing Russia since forever, just like he has been hating democrats since forever. Putin knew exactly where to go to get the guy to create division. Purge voters and prevent his archenemy Hillary Clinton to win the election. GOP-Trump-Putin all have a decades long hatred for the Clintons, esp since that impeachment over a BJ failed.

Bernie supporters are prone to bouts of magical thinking, much like Trump supporters.

Bernie is the Trump of the left, and every candidate other than Biden was and is a stealth Republican, especially Pete the closet log cabinette. Just transition already you neocon queen!

All criticism, and I do mean all criticism, of Biden is 100% because Obama's black. All accusations of rape and pedophilia are because Obama's black. Tara Reade is a racist who comes from one of the least black counties in California. In fact, all the women who accused Joe Biden of rape are racist lying bitches, and even if they're not lying, who cares? They ALL had it coming for cockblocking a Democrat! They ALL deserved it for the same reason Monica Lewinsky deserved what she got: they were forbidding an elected official from doing his duty to his country.

[quote]Bernie supporters are prone to bouts of magical thinking, much like Trump supporters.

Magic is just science without an explanation.

[quote] Most Bernie supporters gladly support Biden.

Don't be so sure. My one friend who turned out to be a Bernie Bro last time hated, HATED! "Killery". He bought into the the whole thing and didn't vote. Now that he has seen what Trump has done he still refuses to vote. When I confront him about not complaining if he doesn't participate in the process he gets all bent out of shape and yells at me that he votes for every other local and state election (which I doubt) but not voting for president is his vote.

No Dear, Magic is an illusion.

Magicians refer to themselves as Illusionist not scientists.

Bernie supporters, just as Trump supporters, don’t really want a better country. What they want is to be handed what they think other (read lesser) folks are handed. And they want to win, because that will really PISS EVERYONE OFF. They can then embark on four years of gloating while still embracing their inner victim.

No difference.

"[R99] I fuckin hate Trump, but it doesn't mean I have to love Joe Biden. ([R81])"

R100 No, you don't have to love anyone. You just have to vote against Trump, whatever that takes.

"Bernie’s usually right and I’m not ashamed of my vote for him. "

He's not "usually right." He's an extremist, which is why he crashed and burned.

That means Biden is one too because Bernie endorsed Biden.

"That means Biden is one too because Bernie endorsed Biden."

Oh for fuck's sake, it doesn't mean any such thing. That's really stupid.

No, it isn't. Just eat your shit and like it.

Classy lady.

Bernistas are just like the Tea Party. They have no idea how to govern nor understand compromise. The Tea Party and Trumpsters have ruined the Republican Party and the Bernistas will do the same to the Democratic party.

[quote] In 1973 he agreed that gays were "security risks" to the US.

Link please.

In four more years under Trump....

I am so tired of this Biden is behind the curve on LGBT issues. The facts are all Bernie did was stand in front of a poster 20 years ago and that his big claim to fame. But he never actually fought for gay rights in any meaningful way that had results and in stayed silent during the defense of marriage act years saying leave it to the states. Meanwhile, Biden is the one who pushed Obama to embrace publicly the idea of gay marriage.

[quote] Biden is the one who pushed Obama to embrace publicly the idea of gay marriage.

Not really.

People want to give Biden the credit for Obama supporting gay marriage? Are you kidding?. He and Obama were already planning on announcing their new support of gay marriage

But he was a major homophobe for the majority of his career. That should never be forgotten.

Biden is a rapist and kiddie diddler.

[quote] The facts are all Bernie did was stand in front of a poster 20 years ago and that his big claim to fame. But he never actually fought for gay rights in any meaningful way that had results and in stayed silent during the defense of marriage act years saying leave it to the states.

Yes, thank you. Bernie just gets credit by piggybacking off of others and making bold statements he doesn't follow up on.

[quote] Biden is a rapist and kiddie diddler.

Tara, give it up. Nobody believes you, not even Fox News.

All accusations of sexual impropriety against Democrats are fake news.

Facts are facts. Joe Biden voted for anti-gay bills and refused to "evolve" until the Alphabet Mafia made everything all-tr*ns all the time.

So Bernie voted against DOMA but then refused to back gay marriage? Nice. That is typical for Bernie. Support something only so far until it comes to actually making tough decisions. The media rightfully criticized Hillary for refusing to back gay marriage but neither did Sanders.

Gays are still treated as cheap dates politically.

So great to not have to deal with that ancient old scarecrow burntard, he was humiliated twice and it must have been a massive blow to his Russian (teehee) sized ego.

There were other choices, R147.

"Biden is a rapist and kiddie diddler."

Shut up Bernie, you extremist old fart.

You can do all of this because you have a brain:

-Understand how Biden became the Democratic Nominee (billionaire money).

-Vote for Biden

-Still participate in Democratic Movements to change public policy now and after the election.

Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will VOTE for Biden. Both will still speak up about Democracy and Public Policy. They are Public Servants.

[quote]Understand how Biden became the Democratic Nominee (billionaire money)

Biden was the lowest funded candidate in the race. Way less then old fart Bernie. Billionaire money is only coming in now because he is the clear winner and everyone wants to beat the Orange turd.

Why do these freak candidates get such a cult following? Is it Russian hacker propaganda they're falling for online?

Biden is not a "freak candidate".

If you hate Trump, you don't have to love Biden to vote for him.

I can't stand these people. Why not make your own party if you don't like the Dems?

R156, I'm actually glad they stay in the Dem party. This way, they don't pull a Ralph Nader and steal votes away from the Dem candidate.

Won't somebody, please, shit in her mouth 👄!?!

[quote]Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will VOTE for Biden. Both will still speak up about Democracy and Public Policy. They are Public Servants.

Bernie will do none of that.