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Could someone explain why Trump is doing better with Latinos in 2020 than he did in 2016?

Heard on MSNBC that Clinton beat Trump by 40% among Latinos, but Biden is now leading among them by only 30%.

by Anonymousreply 265June 6, 2021 11:29 AM

Latinos lurved Hillary

by Anonymousreply 1July 24, 2020 10:47 PM

But Trump has shown himself to be their enemy over the last years.

by Anonymousreply 2July 24, 2020 11:02 PM

Latinos are Machismo Religious nuts

by Anonymousreply 3July 24, 2020 11:04 PM

Here's one point of view:

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by Anonymousreply 4July 24, 2020 11:07 PM

Trump did a great job promoting the national food of Mexico, the taco salad.

by Anonymousreply 5July 24, 2020 11:28 PM

I thought Latinos were mad at Obama over his immigration policy too

by Anonymousreply 6July 24, 2020 11:46 PM

They’re getting whiter with every generation

by Anonymousreply 7July 24, 2020 11:49 PM

With many Latinos, it may be an "I got mine" type of attitude, and they don't have compassion and understanding for their less fortunate Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 8July 24, 2020 11:56 PM

Within a generation, they turn Republican. The male figure is dominant, fundamentally religious, have lots of babies, anti-abortion, not fond of gays, and resistant to paying taxes.

by Anonymousreply 9July 25, 2020 12:19 AM

A corrupt, narcissistic, populist blowhard is actually a common aspect in Latin American culture on all sides of the political spectrum.

by Anonymousreply 10July 25, 2020 12:49 AM

FAKE NEWS

Biden is still winning Hispanics

Biden’s only down historically among Hispanics by about 5 percent and that’s only because Hispanics don’t know him whereas they loved Bernie Sanders.

The Biden numbers will shoot up for Election Day after Hispanics get to know him and they’ll vote about 70% for the Democrat like they always do.

You have to be a really desperate right winger to think that 44% of Hispanics for Biden versus 40% for Trump is good news for Trump, especially when every, other group is leaving the Trumpster Fire in droves!

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by Anonymousreply 11July 25, 2020 1:03 AM

They’re not going to vote for Trump when Trump locks their children in cages and calls all Mexicans “rapists.”

by Anonymousreply 12July 25, 2020 1:04 AM

What r11 said.

Fake news.

by Anonymousreply 13July 25, 2020 1:06 AM

A lot of people are like that, R8.

I got mine fuck everybody else.

That’s how my cunty supervisor sees it.

When the caravans were coming, she was “why are they coming?” Stupid bitch, why the fuck are you here? Why did your parents come over years ago?

I still don’t understand why or how Bernie had such large numbers here in TX.

by Anonymousreply 14July 25, 2020 1:28 AM

More proof that straight white liberal males are more progressive than the people whose rights they champion.

by Anonymousreply 15July 25, 2020 1:28 AM

Bernie was and is a fauxgressive.

by Anonymousreply 16July 25, 2020 1:37 AM

By the third generation they usually don’t learn Spanish or think of themselves as Hispanic. Everyone who says they do jobs Americans don’t want to do are correct for the first and maybe second generation, but everyone wants their kids to have better opportunities than they had.

by Anonymousreply 17July 25, 2020 1:37 AM

Thank you R11. We had a thread on this weeks ago and determined it was manipulated news then, too.

by Anonymousreply 18July 25, 2020 1:38 AM

Here's the old thread. Basically Trump is still losing Latinos by a large margin, just not as large a margin as 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 19July 25, 2020 1:41 AM

Historically, Latinos have polled near 40% (which is what the Hill poll said Trump was at) for both Reagan and W in their second terms. This isn't really new, it seems to come and go.

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by Anonymousreply 20July 25, 2020 1:44 AM

They ain’t black.

by Anonymousreply 21July 25, 2020 1:48 AM

They’re Catholics. They hate abortion, gays. It’s very simple. Biden is smart to go after the white people that will vote for him instead of chasing conservative Latinos who never will. Legal immigrants also hate illegal immigrants for some reason. I grew up in San Diego. Most Mexican men were full on gay hating republicans.

by Anonymousreply 22July 25, 2020 1:53 AM

It's the beans.

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by Anonymousreply 23July 25, 2020 1:59 AM

It's the same old church crap. They are conservative on social issues.

by Anonymousreply 24July 25, 2020 2:02 AM

Straight black men are just as conservative on social issues if not fiscal ones.

by Anonymousreply 25July 25, 2020 2:15 AM

I shit you not, I JUST had a "Latinos for Trump" ad play right before a video on YouTube.

by Anonymousreply 26July 25, 2020 2:20 AM

Before Covid they had the lowest unemployment rate ever.

by Anonymousreply 27July 25, 2020 2:20 AM

Thank you, R23. That explains it.

by Anonymousreply 28July 25, 2020 4:29 PM

Note at r4 there are two Latinos in front & the rest are white people.

by Anonymousreply 29July 25, 2020 4:32 PM

And once again I will explain to DLers that saying "Latinos" is like saying "Europeans" as there are major differences between the various groups.

• Wealthy white Cubans and South Americans (Venezuelans in particular) in Miami

• Third or fourth generation Puerto Ricans in NYC

• Second generation Dominicans in NYC

• Fifth or sixth generation Mexicans in the southwest and California

• Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) in California, Texas and Chicago

•  Central American immigrants all over the country

They all face different levels of discrimination, different levels of poverty and differing background in their home countries.

And run the gamut from blonde-haired, blue-eyed Argentinians to "blatino" Dominicans.

by Anonymousreply 30July 25, 2020 4:38 PM

^same comment can be made about whites, blacks, Asians

by Anonymousreply 31July 25, 2020 4:57 PM

Maybe they are shy Biden voters who pretend that they would vote Trump?

by Anonymousreply 32July 25, 2020 5:29 PM

Latinos have the highest rate of small business ownership out of all demos. Trump talks a lot about supporting small business owners.

Also, Hispanics think Democrats are using immigration as a wedge issue to get elected and re-elected and will never take action on it. The anger is palpable.

Trump has repeatedly pledged to come up with a permanent solution. That is attractive to some people, to just know where there stand and lose the uncertainty.

by Anonymousreply 33July 25, 2020 5:35 PM

Yes R31

Hence "saying "Latinos" is like saying "Europeans" "

by Anonymousreply 34July 25, 2020 6:08 PM

R23 LMAO

by Anonymousreply 35July 25, 2020 6:10 PM

Hispanics are mostly white. Latinos are mixed.

by Anonymousreply 36July 25, 2020 6:33 PM

R36 The terms are interchangeable. The racial terms are criollo (hispanic of Spanish heritage) and mestizo (mixed European and native.) Mulato gets used for people who have mixed Euopean and African ancestry, but it's more common to hear negro (black) or moreno (dark-complected.)

by Anonymousreply 37July 25, 2020 6:44 PM

But even the Pope has made it pretty clear he can't abide what Trump stands for.

by Anonymousreply 38July 25, 2020 6:53 PM

And Biden is Catholic! But he separates church from state. But it took him awhile to get there.

by Anonymousreply 39July 25, 2020 6:54 PM

Because Latinos love their authoritarians no matter right or left: Franco, Stroessner, Peron, Batista, Castro, Pinochet, Videla, Noriega, Trujillo, Ortega, Pinilla, Chavez, Maduro, Duarte, etc etc

He's a caudillo in gringo disguise.

by Anonymousreply 40July 25, 2020 7:09 PM

Catholicism: anti-women; anti-abortion; anti-LGBTQ... And they love his bling.

by Anonymousreply 41July 25, 2020 7:18 PM

Tards!

by Anonymousreply 42July 25, 2020 8:52 PM

This morning, from the Miami Herald, emerges this bullshit:

𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧’𝐬 𝐜𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐢𝐬 ‘𝐬𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐢𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐜 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞’ 𝐢𝐧 𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚, 𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦𝐬

"Over 90 field organizers for the Florida Democratic Party signed a scathing letter Friday to the party’s leadership, claiming among other things that the campaign is “suppressing the Hispanic vote” in Central Florida.

The seven-page internal letter, obtained by the Miami Herald, contains eight allegations from field organizers about what they say is a lack of a “fully actionable field plan” from the Biden campaign as it transitions into the Florida party to coordinate voter outreach efforts.

This letter comes 100 days out from the general election and as recent polls show enthusiasm about voting among Latinos in battleground states like Florida could be waning in light of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Doubtless this too is being astroturfed.

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by Anonymousreply 43July 26, 2020 3:36 PM

White liberals are retarded, that's why.

White liberals and blacks just destroyed black communities all across America with all their retarded rioting and looting. This makes blacks 100% dependent on white liberals for their income and support.

Hispanics are laughing their asses off at the both of you.

Hispanics will be brought in to reconstruct those communities while opening new Hispanic businesses, creating even more opportunities for Hispanics. Hispanics will take over those black communities and push them out just like in LA.

Republicans and bankers will encourage this. I predict Trump will grant more visas to make this happen before the election.

Blacks cause destruction and cost society money, Hispanics build society and generate income. Blacks need to get their shit together so they can compete since the rest of the world, Hispanics and Asians, are leaving them far behind.

by Anonymousreply 44July 26, 2020 4:23 PM

I see mostly white people and some black at these protests. Hispanics mostly stay away.

by Anonymousreply 45July 26, 2020 5:41 PM

R44 If Hispanics "build society & generate income" then why are so many trying to get into white majority nations like the US & Canada?

Why is Mexico so corrupt & teetering on the edge of collapse from these wonderful nation builders?

Out of 179 nations (higher numbers are better), these majority hispanic counties are all in the most corrupt half of nations on the planet = Ecuador at #93, Columbia at #96, Panama & Peru tie at #101, Brazil at #106, El Salvador at #113, Bolivia at #123, Mexico at #130, Paraguay at #137, Guatemala & Honduras tie at #146, Nicaragua at #161, Haiti at #168 & Venezuela at #173.

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by Anonymousreply 46July 26, 2020 7:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 47July 26, 2020 11:26 PM

Wonder what's really going on there, R43. The letter claims four staffers were moved to a different location and that was a big problem, though it doesn't explain WHY moving four staffers is a problem. And the state director says no one has been moved for six weeks.

The fact that they claim Biden is "suppressing" votes makes this whole thing sketchy. Nothing they said comes anywhere close to suppressing votes. They just used that title to get attention from the media, which calls their motives into question. If it was me, I'd clear the lot of them out of there and restaff with Latino voters who are committed to working, rather than pulling publicity stunts designed to hurt the party.

by Anonymousreply 48July 26, 2020 11:45 PM

Hell the way some elder gays go on about women, lesbians and other issues on here, I think they support him too.

by Anonymousreply 49July 27, 2020 12:37 AM

Yes, R49, there are Trump supporters here at the DL.

There's not a reliable way to determine if they're actually eldergays, or if they're paid trolls, though.

by Anonymousreply 50July 27, 2020 3:19 AM

They don’t vote. It doesn’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 51July 27, 2020 3:24 AM

Just shows we need a Lincoln Project in Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 52July 27, 2020 3:27 AM

They influence real voters with their bullshit, R51. It does matter.

by Anonymousreply 53July 27, 2020 3:27 AM

The trans-haters are all trump supporters.

by Anonymousreply 54July 27, 2020 3:29 AM

R52 Latino voters speak English just fine.

by Anonymousreply 55July 27, 2020 3:30 AM

Sure thing, he kidnaps immigrant children, puts infants and babies in cages, and denies medical treatment (or decent basic treatment of any kind) on the border, and Latinos are going to vote for that? Really? Who?

I live in a border state. Latinos HATE Trump, they know him for exactly what he is - a monster.

by Anonymousreply 56July 27, 2020 3:36 AM

And keep in mind, the most recent survey of Hispanics was in MID-APRIL, people!

Who knows what Trump did to their support with all his COVID bungling, protest busting and COVID skyrocketing all summer! Hispanics are being disproportionately infected and killed by COVID-19 at rates HIGHER than whites!

by Anonymousreply 57July 27, 2020 3:59 AM

r20 is more FAKE NEWS, probably deliberately designed to fool you into thinking Hispanics support Trump.

HISTORICALLY, HISPANICS VOTE ABOUT 70% FOR THE DEMOCRAT AND 305 FOR THE REPUBLICAN. Don't get it twisted.

—349,226,938.75/10, BORIS!

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by Anonymousreply 59July 27, 2020 4:08 AM

r33 = Deplorability in real time.

by Anonymousreply 60July 27, 2020 4:14 AM

r44 = TEXTBOOK RUSSIAN DIVISION CAMPAIGN

If his name isn't Boris, it's Natasha. All he cares about his setting Americans at each others' throats so Putin can conquer the world and commit atrocities unchallenged.

There's nothing black, Hispanic or American about him. F&F!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 61July 27, 2020 4:22 AM

r51 = Tired, Deplorable wishful thinking. I can't wait till Hair Furor goes straight down the shitter on Nov. 3. It will be fun to bump this thread!

by Anonymousreply 62July 27, 2020 4:26 AM

I meant Hispanics historically vote about 70% for the Democrat and 30% for the Republican.

I got it twisted.

by Anonymousreply 63July 27, 2020 4:28 AM

Doesn't OP ask this same question every time? He knows it's bullshit since Hispanics are about to turn Arizona blue and most like turn Texas' lower chamber blue and well as turn a few districts as well.

by Anonymousreply 64July 27, 2020 4:35 AM

Most terfs are not Republican. At least not the ones that post on the site. They’re classic feminists like JK Rowling who think trans is incompatible with womens rights. Some gay men feel this way too because other countries pretend that we don’t exist.

by Anonymousreply 65July 27, 2020 5:06 AM

[quote] Doesn't OP ask this same question every time?

Every time what?

by Anonymousreply 66July 27, 2020 5:12 AM

Latinos aren’t smart and desperate to be accepted by whites.

by Anonymousreply 67July 27, 2020 5:16 AM

R46 Most avenues for economic advancement in Latin America for poor/working class/lower middle class Latinos are closed. This is why they come to the U.S. Here they can achieve the economic success that is impossible in Latin America. Most Latin American countries are too classist and racist.

by Anonymousreply 68July 27, 2020 6:45 AM

R59, that's not fake news, the numbers are right there.

There are two examples of Latinos voting nearly 40% for Republican incumbents: Reagan and W in their 2nd elections. That's it. They didn't WIN the Latino vote, they just got 35% to 40% of it on those years.

I'm so sick of you paranoid all caps queens trying to make everyday people who are posting factual information into villains because it's not what you want to hear.

by Anonymousreply 69July 27, 2020 6:56 AM

Trump has this teflon thing where he can do no wrong.

when I was in high school, two people ran for class president, a studious guy and a class clown who ran on a platform of no homework and longer recess - two things he couldn't control.

the clown won.

Some people never outgrown how they feel in high school.

by Anonymousreply 70July 27, 2020 7:00 AM

R26, was it the one with a husband and wife who own a restaurant? I got that ad after read through this thread.

by Anonymousreply 71July 27, 2020 12:23 PM

Fuck your, R67.

I don’t give a rats ass if some fucking gringo accepts me or not.

We will be the majority soon enough, asshole.

by Anonymousreply 72July 28, 2020 1:39 AM

R70 You had recess in high school?

by Anonymousreply 73July 28, 2020 11:12 AM

NBC: Trump Getting 31% of Latin vote

by Anonymousreply 74August 16, 2020 5:50 PM

R74 That's a pretty low, safe estimate in my view.

by Anonymousreply 75August 16, 2020 6:23 PM

[quote] NBC: Trump Getting 31% of Latin vote

How many times are you going to post this today?

1980 Ronald Reagan, 35%

1984 Ronald Reagan, 37%

1988 George H.W. Bush, 30%

1992 George H.W. Bush, 25%

1996 Bob Dole, 21%

2000 George W. Bush, 35%

2004 George W. Bush, 40%

2008 John McCain, 31%

2012 Mitt Romney, 27%

2016 Donald Trump, 29%

by Anonymousreply 76August 16, 2020 6:54 PM

Second generation Latinos vote republican

by Anonymousreply 77August 20, 2020 9:15 PM

R77 Yep. Those would be the citizens, not their immigrant parents who can't vote.

by Anonymousreply 78August 20, 2020 9:16 PM

Trump is doing much better with Latinos and African Americans than Hillary, according to newest polls

by Anonymousreply 79September 8, 2020 5:55 PM

Nate Cohn: Yet interestingly, none of those Fox results have really been contradicted. Instead, there's a bunch of tight results in states other than where Fox polled. With so few polls, this could all be noise. Or it could mean Biden's doing well in WI/AZ/NC but not FL/PA

by Anonymousreply 80September 8, 2020 5:56 PM

New NBC News/Marist poll of Florida:

Biden 48% Trump 48%

Aug 31-Sept 6 of 766 likely voters, +/- 4.5%

(This is our first 2020 poll of FL)

by Anonymousreply 81September 8, 2020 5:58 PM

Many Latinos (like my mother) are vehemently anti- illegal immigrant. They believe if they came to the US “the right way” everyone else should too. Abortion is a also a thing for devout catholic latinos.

by Anonymousreply 82September 8, 2020 5:58 PM

If the Marist poll is correct, Trump is winning Florida Latinos now

by Anonymousreply 83September 8, 2020 5:59 PM

Has Biden been to Florida this summer? @mmurraypolitics Time for the Biden campaign to start throwing their weight around in FL. Latino outreach and turnout is critical.

by Anonymousreply 84September 8, 2020 6:04 PM

No, I can't.

by Anonymousreply 85September 8, 2020 6:28 PM

One of the reasons my aunt (by marriage), got her citizenship was so she could vote for Trump. She's originally from Cuba.

by Anonymousreply 86September 8, 2020 6:44 PM

R79 Huh? What now?

by Anonymousreply 87September 8, 2020 6:52 PM

Perry Bacon Jr. today

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by Anonymousreply 88September 8, 2020 6:54 PM

I can't even begin to tell you how unsupportive Hispanics (Mexican-Americans at least) are of the riots. They. Hate. It.

Anything which hurts small business owners is anathema among Hispanics. They won't vote for it.

by Anonymousreply 89September 8, 2020 6:54 PM

The democrats are also letting BLM hijack their entire narrative. It’s not appealing to others. Hispanic people may also be getting sick of hearing how blacks are underrepresented in media when hispanic people are far less represented and a larger portion of the population.

by Anonymousreply 90September 8, 2020 7:01 PM

Latinos I know hate illegal immigration (their families came legally), so they like Trump’s border policy.

by Anonymousreply 91September 8, 2020 7:05 PM

[quote] I live in a border state. Latinos HATE Trump

Are they illegals or related to illegals? That seems to make a difference.

by Anonymousreply 92September 8, 2020 7:08 PM

A thread started by a Troll.

They are scared because Latinos are the future majority of the USA and people from both the Right [and left] are waking up to the reality that things are going to change, for the better in this case.

Latinos have a great track record in turning Red states into Blue states and it scares people. It scares people because they are doing it at 65% capacity, and they are getting more unified with each passing election.

Pobrecitos los Americanitos...

by Anonymousreply 93September 8, 2020 7:08 PM

I am so over the dizzy queen who keeps posting about BLM hijacking the narrative that this bozo has concocted in his head. Get a new talking point trick. That one is as old and tired as you are.

by Anonymousreply 94September 8, 2020 7:10 PM

Ron Brownstein: The core tension in the modern electoral landscape: While changes in the underlying demography are more favorable for Democrats in the Sun Belt, their capacity to win White voters remains much greater in the Rust Belt." That's true w/both college & especially non-college whites.”

by Anonymousreply 95September 8, 2020 7:14 PM

Catholic and family oriented. Plus it comes with the Spanish machismo culture. It's also why the second largest group of Asians in the country - Filipinos (fun fact!) - are Republican/lean Republican.

Also, as much as the Academic crowd wants to lump all "black and brown" (read: non-white) voices in some anti-white coalition, Latinos largely do not care for American blacks, have no connection to the "black experience," give fuck all about slavery, etc. As Latinos become more "Americanized" and, in turn, America becomes more knowledgeable about Hispanic cultures, they blend well.

The majority of Americans do not have an anti-racial animus against Latinos. Latinos are seen as hard working, Christian, family-oriented, etc.

The matter of illegal immigration is a sticking point because Latinos happen to be the source of it from our border, which is why Democrats use it as a wedge issue and extrapolate it as being an entirely racial thing against all Latinos (of all backgrounds; the Uruguayan certainly has fuck all in common with the Mexican).

This, over time, will shift them Republican. BLM and looting isn't helping, just like it isn't with whites, and even other blacks.

by Anonymousreply 96September 8, 2020 7:26 PM

Well then those people are scum of the highest order, R91.

Selfish assholes that don’t care about other people besides themselves.

My mom and dad came over legally but I see why all those people are trying to come here, to what is now a shithole country.

I don’t begrudge them wanting better for themselves and their families.

How quick they seem to forget. Why the fuck are they now here? Why did their parents come over in the first place??????

Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 97September 8, 2020 7:28 PM

Deplorable Detector Alert: r96

by Anonymousreply 98September 8, 2020 7:39 PM

Oh, am I? And what's your counterpoint, dumb cunt R98? Systemic raaaaaaaaaaaacism?

by Anonymousreply 99September 8, 2020 7:46 PM

R99 is horrible

by Anonymousreply 100September 8, 2020 7:49 PM

R93 There is a world of difference between people from Latin America who live in the U. S. and Americans born and raised here who are of Hispanic descent. Only one of those two can vote. Everyone is massively underestimating how conservative Hispanic American citizens are.

by Anonymousreply 101September 8, 2020 7:55 PM

"If I vote for him, I'll be white and rich, too."

by Anonymousreply 102September 8, 2020 7:55 PM

Today's Marist poll from Florida: "The poll finds Trump with a narrow lead among Latino voters, 50 percent to 46 percent. In 2016, Clinton outpaced Trump among Latinos, 62 percent to 35 percent, according to exit polling." (Washington Post)

Who can explain this? It's obviously not all Cubans. And although I know Latino voters are conservative in a lot of ways, that doesn't explain why so many would shift from Democrat to Republican in four years.

I would prefer Biden spent time in Florida at the moment than in the Midwest, where his polling numbers are a lot better.

by Anonymousreply 103September 8, 2020 7:56 PM

I think R97 nailed it. That's why the POC mantra is a loser. POC are a variety of people who don't share the same experiences or ideology.

by Anonymousreply 104September 8, 2020 7:57 PM

Because most Latinos are desperate for white America to accept them so they will do anything to kiss white peoples asses, even though Republicans despise them and treat them like shit.

by Anonymousreply 105September 8, 2020 7:57 PM

R96 Is right. If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the naysayers on this thread are either Hispanic themselves or have a connection to the community.

by Anonymousreply 106September 8, 2020 7:58 PM

He’s making up for it with seniors. If Latinos want to vote against their own well being then let them. Biden may not even need them.

by Anonymousreply 107September 8, 2020 7:59 PM

Biden and Harris need to camp out in Florida. Why aren’t they on the campaign trail doing multiple events a day?

by Anonymousreply 108September 8, 2020 7:59 PM

Wow. The so called tolerant left sure is showing their fucking racism at the mere thought a class of people may not vote their way.

"Kissing white people's asses"? Really?

by Anonymousreply 109September 8, 2020 7:59 PM

[quote]The democrats are also letting BLM hijack their entire narrative. It’s not appealing to others. Hispanic people may also be getting sick of hearing how blacks are underrepresented in media when hispanic people are far less represented and a larger portion of the population.

Too fucking bad. Most Hispanics are racist towards blacks anyway, so fuck them. And if they think Republicans will treat them better, let them be stupid and vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 110September 8, 2020 8:00 PM

Oops, I meant R96 nailed it. I think Latinos are too diverse a group to easily label.

by Anonymousreply 111September 8, 2020 8:02 PM

If Hispanics are breaking for Trump can the gays be far behind?

by Anonymousreply 112September 8, 2020 8:03 PM

[quote]Why aren’t they on the campaign trail doing multiple events a day?

The schedule is on the website. They are doing quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 113September 8, 2020 8:08 PM

Latinos are not a monolithic voting block. Culturally, Latinos can be all over the place with retentions of both liberal and conservative social attitudes. But generally speaking tend to be socially conservative but fiscally liberal. But they will sometimes cross over to vote for candidates who align with socially conservative beliefs regardless of whether or not the fiscal policies align with progressive thinking.

To make an interesting comparison with Asian-Americans as a voting block, AAs lean liberal with regards to social services, and are against government using religion (Christianity) to limit personal rights that aid in discrimination. AAs tend to lean fiscally conservative. However, nothing scares AAs more than Christian conservatives, even if their conservative fiscal policies are palatable. So in a sense, AAs will vote against their own financial interests because the Jesus freaks really turn them off.

by Anonymousreply 114September 8, 2020 8:14 PM

Abortion is a much bigger issue for many Latinos than immigration

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by Anonymousreply 115September 8, 2020 8:20 PM

Young Latinos are prolife

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by Anonymousreply 116September 8, 2020 8:23 PM

Second and third generation Latinos turn Republicans. Cuban-Mericans go Republican at the get-go.

Religious fundamentalists, extensive procreation, anti-abortion, low education, anti-gay, anti-tax, love Walmart, conservative, etc.

They are not reliable Democratic voters.

by Anonymousreply 117September 8, 2020 8:31 PM

Trump Is also polling significantly better with blacks than Republicans have done in a long time

by Anonymousreply 118September 8, 2020 8:34 PM

I think the culture issues are peeling some black and Latin evangelicals towards Trump. I know multiple black people who say they are voting Trump because of Abortion, religious liberty, and illegal immigration. Young blacks

by Anonymousreply 119September 8, 2020 8:38 PM

Source: Microsoft News

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Trump in Florida's largest county is tightening, according to a new poll, bolstering the president's hopes in the must-win swing state.

The poll, from the firm Bendixen & Amandi International and the Miami Herald, shows Biden garnering 55 percent of the vote in Miami-Dade County to Trump's 38 percent. While that 17-point lead is well outside the poll's 4.4 percentage point margin of error, it's well short of then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's 30-point victory there in 2016.

The survey also found Biden and Trump statistically tied among Miami-Dade Hispanics. The former vice president carried 46 percent support among those voters to Trump's 47 percent.

There's little doubt that Biden will win Miami-Dade in the November election. Democratic presidential candidates have carried the county, which encompasses Miami and its suburbs, for decades.

But Trump doesn't need to win Miami-Dade in November to capture Florida's 29 electoral votes, and if he's successful at narrowing Biden's margin of victory there, it could help him make up for possible deficits in other parts of the state, such as in the swing counties along the I-4 corridor in Central Florida.

by Anonymousreply 120September 8, 2020 8:39 PM

I have a few Latino friends from my neighborhood and many are first time homebuyers. They fear the protesters and rioters that are supported by the Dem party and do not want to feel unsafe in their communities. They feel they worked hard to have a house in a safe place and fear that a change to Biden would threaten their safety.

by Anonymousreply 121September 8, 2020 8:39 PM

This is not soothing especially with Cohen's book saying Trump considers blacks and Hispanics stupid. And, here we have Hispanics for Trump. What Cohen means by stupid is probably that Trump can manipulate them.

Marist poll has Trump up by 1 in Florida as per fivethirtyeight. Another poll has Trump just 2 points behind in PA. To be frank, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida looks really really close. In addition, an article in fivethirtyeight says 30% Hispanics and Cuban Americans support Trump, 10% African-American voters support Trump and this has helped Trump survive the storm. I am at a loss at what is going on. I guess many Americans are either stupid or racists or tribal.

by Anonymousreply 122September 8, 2020 8:40 PM

R121, did you tell them they are Buying into Ridiculous racist lies?

by Anonymousreply 123September 8, 2020 8:41 PM

If he wins those states, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida, it's over.

by Anonymousreply 124September 8, 2020 8:42 PM

Florida is complex. The Cubans are STILL living on the loss of Cuba to communism. All that anyone has to do is scream “communist”. Same with Venezuelans. They just don’t get it...out Party or the people.

Biden and Harris better both get down here in person and sew this up!

by Anonymousreply 125September 8, 2020 8:42 PM

Joe and Kamala, get your butts off of Zoom and go to swing states and have big campaign events. I’m tired of Joe campaigning in Wilmington, Delaware

by Anonymousreply 126September 8, 2020 8:43 PM

Harris will be visiting Miami...tomorrow, its been scheduled for a few days already.

by Anonymousreply 127September 8, 2020 8:44 PM

The Republican Party of Florida (RPOF) posted its best fundraising report in nearly two years, with more than $5.6 million raised between April 1 and Aug. 13. The haul came in across 233 contributions with the average check weighing in at just over $24,000. RPOF’s total more than doubled that of the Florida Democratic Party, which raised $2.15 million over the same stretch.

FDP’s haul was spread across 195 contributions for an average give of about $11,000.

by Anonymousreply 128September 8, 2020 8:46 PM

. I don't get Cuban Americans. Trump likes North Korea style inauguration, likes the way Putin runs the country, is in love with dictators and they think Trump, another dictator-in-making, is the solution? Wake up, Cuban Americans.

Trump is a second coming of Fidel Castro. If Democrats cannot prove that, we have a problem. Harris does give some hope. She can speak. Obamas need to be there as well.

by Anonymousreply 129September 8, 2020 8:48 PM

Help me understand big campaign events in the age of Covid? Tell me how you map that out so that it doesn't come back to bite you in ass?

by Anonymousreply 130September 8, 2020 8:48 PM

Because people like you OP are such a turnoff

by Anonymousreply 131September 8, 2020 8:52 PM

This GQR (Dem firm) result in Florida (Biden+5) still shows some very meaningful narrowing among Hispanic voters--including non-Cuban Hispanics

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by Anonymousreply 132September 8, 2020 8:56 PM

It all goes back to education and being well-informed. The less educated you are the more susceptible to demagoguery from both sides of the political spectrum. Culture plays a role in promoting education instead of emphasis on religion/ god.

by Anonymousreply 133September 8, 2020 9:39 PM

I've been worried about BLM from day 1. I think we're seeing the effect in Florida. BLM hit a peak in support in May. Since then the support has gone down every day. Not even all AA support the movement.

I'm not sure how Biden turns this around. He needs to be strongly against the looters/rioters.

by Anonymousreply 134September 8, 2020 9:52 PM

Im cuban and I will write the main reasons why cubans vote republicans:

(1) anti communist politics is big business in miami. all cubans republican politicians get basically elected on basically this matter. they dont care about any kind of american issues, all they talk about is about cuba and that is how they get votes. besides, there are a lot of organizations and leaders that make a living with the millions of dollars they get from the goverment to free cuba. that american tax payer's money that they received to help cuban dissidents in cuba, they steal it. so they really dont want a free cuba at all, cuz they dont want to lose money.

(2) the republicans sell the idea that taughening the embargo will hurt the cuban goverment and the people will take the street and topple the goverment. they accuse the democrats of wanting to give money to the castros and thus support communism.

(3) inmorality, decadence and ungratefulness. cubans have no real morals. they enjoy all the social benefits they can get from democrats and the government while voting for republicans with total lack of guilt and shame.

(4) they truly believe that they are whites and believe that they are better than mexicans, and other latinos.they felt entittled to have all the benefits they had and took them for granted.while it is true that most cubans in miami are of european stock, there is a recent wave of inmigration of black/mulatos/ mestizos that have not yet experienced racism because they are scared of leaving in an all white area and afraid of being descriminated, so they remain in healeah and never go up north.

(5) highly ignorant third world people who associate republicans with capitalism,democracy, economic properity and civil liberties while democrats are not capitalists enough.

yes Im cuban, of 100% european ancestry, uber liberal, democrat,capitalist/ anticommunist and anti republican.

by Anonymousreply 135September 8, 2020 10:36 PM

Because it's a lie. And Cubans are not the only Hispanics.

by Anonymousreply 136September 8, 2020 11:23 PM

Trump's job approval in Florida is 48. It rarely exceeds 42, 43 in any national polling.

Just another punch to the gut reminder that this will be won or lost in a handful of swing states that Trump won before. And where he often outpolls the national.

Keep fighting!!

by Anonymousreply 137September 9, 2020 12:11 AM

Thank you r135. Also Spanish language media, Telemundo and Univision are controlled by Republican Cubans and others. They are as bad/worse than FOX news. It's one of the most underreported stories. For 8 years they bashed Obama and repeated every Republican talking point while NEVER asking a follow-up question, pure propaganda, week after week, year after year, takes a toll. They were right there with Benghazi/ Emails and IRS scandal and Rapido Furioso. Rubio and Roz-Leighton were ALWAYS available to bash Obama. Never once did they have to answer for any Trump scandal or crime.

When they have to criticize Trump they mention it quickly, like 15 seconds and sandwich the story between gory clickbait.

by Anonymousreply 138September 9, 2020 12:25 AM

R121 They really are stupid. Did you inform these dummies that the riots are happening while Trump is president? Riots typically happen when a Republican is in office. When the LA riots were happening, it was when Bush Sr. was president.

by Anonymousreply 139September 9, 2020 12:38 AM

R139, Democrats need to succinctly and potently make that case, but I haven’t seen it

by Anonymousreply 140September 9, 2020 12:41 AM

I’m not so big on trying really hard for FL.

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by Anonymousreply 141September 9, 2020 12:49 AM

Why? We can’t afford not to fight

by Anonymousreply 142September 9, 2020 12:50 AM

The cable media played a big role in generating fear regarding the looting, arson, vandalism and related rioting. The media and politicians were slow in condemning it. The largely peaceful protests and marches were understood and generally accepted. But when the protests often got meshed with violence, a growing number of the population have soured on mass protests that have gone on and on. Not enough compartamentalizing was done While Trump has fostered discontent, he has exploited it politically.

by Anonymousreply 143September 9, 2020 12:51 AM

r135, if you are Cuban, then why would you refer to them as “they” instead of “we”? You gave yourself away, liar. You’re just promoting stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 144September 9, 2020 12:56 AM

Sometimes really irrational things occur and have immense effect. The riots and more violent protests are producing real fear of chaos, rational or not. Hispanics are not immune to that. Biden is not doing that well, fellas.

by Anonymousreply 145September 9, 2020 1:03 AM

Thanks for that, R135/R138.

Does Biden have any good surrogates who could help out?

by Anonymousreply 146September 9, 2020 1:12 AM

I wonder if President Obama will soon be like, what the hell, I’m gonna go out and start campaigning in swing states.

by Anonymousreply 147September 9, 2020 1:15 AM

My hope is that protests due down and there is no new incident. Maybe the assholes in Portland even take a break. The media must love the eyeballs the protests give them. Biden should also talk about Obamacare and economic issues. Everyone already knows Trump is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 148September 9, 2020 1:17 AM

Biden torched Trump today on the issue of violence and police.

Biden cleared up the common misconception by saying that he supports *funding* the police.

It's Donald Trump that wants to defund the police.

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by Anonymousreply 149September 9, 2020 1:19 AM

Could it be because they work and save, and they don't want to give it all to the government in taxes to fund deadbeats who don't work and save?

by Anonymousreply 150September 9, 2020 1:25 AM

Look at the comments under any Univision or Telemundo video on Black Lives Matter or unrest in cities. They aren't positive. Media commentators have talked none stop about how this stuff might hurt Biden with white suburbanites but it certainly hasn't been helpful with Latinos either.

As much as young Latinx activists scream about how Latinos and African Americans are part of one BIPOC community and are united in the struggle against systemic racism, a lot of American Latinos don't see it that way.

by Anonymousreply 151September 9, 2020 1:25 AM

R150, you are a selfish person who is exactly the type we think of when we think of Republicans

by Anonymousreply 152September 9, 2020 1:29 AM

in the article posted in r141 they mentioned Alex Otaola. This guy is a youtuber that I used to folliw until he found that republican politics in miami can be a very good business. otaola is an affeminate gay guy who enjoys making fun of other gays in his youtube channel in order to make straight people laugh about gays. this guy is extremely negative and unsufferable and is in a pro-trump crusade in which anyone who opposes trump is called a communist.

Again, Im cuban, for those of you here who claim that stereotyping, Im not. Cubans are ignorants, they live in an alternate reality, most cubans when they arrive to the first world they dont even know what a credit card is.Only in miami, you can find black and mestizos against the BLM and supporting the far right, of course, they are all cubans. yes, the cubans are the lowest of the lowest in culture, in politics etc. among hispanics. Im cuban by birth, but I have been out of cuba and living in the US since 1994 and I am 38. besides, my four grandparents were from spain, and they didnt like cuba that much, so my "cubanness" is not that strong.

by Anonymousreply 153September 9, 2020 1:38 AM

Good grief! I'm sick of the coddling of groups still on the fence or are shooting themselves in the foot by supporting Trump/republicunts. If the shit Trump has pulled since he's been in office (the caravan claim, attacking Dreamers, showing no concern for Puerto Ricans, caging Latino children at the border and likely trafficking them, dragging his feet on a COVID response in part because it'd mostly impact black and brown communities, etc.) isn't enough for the community to get over their hangups about Blacks and table intra-ethnic tribalism to vote for Biden in the upcoming election, they fucking deserve what Trump & the recunts have planned for them. And before someone calls me racist, this goes for blacks, Asians, First Nations, LGBT, female, and working-class/blue-collar/working poor voters who support Trump.

by Anonymousreply 154September 11, 2020 5:40 PM

"As much as young Latinx activists scream about how Latinos and African Americans are part of one BIPOC community and are united in the struggle against systemic racism, a lot of American Latinos don't see it that way."

Hopefully, the Democrats understand this and can broaden their appeal to the Latino/Latinx community. Otherwise, we're doomed.

by Anonymousreply 155September 11, 2020 5:43 PM

Latinx needs to die a quick and public death. Nothing communicates disdain for and ignorance of the Latino community like Latinx-ing them against their will.

by Anonymousreply 156September 11, 2020 5:49 PM

I agree

by Anonymousreply 157September 11, 2020 5:57 PM

R33, his record with small business owners is poor and only reliably bad. To anyone who is paying attention and voting their pocketbook or ledger, Trump is a loser.

by Anonymousreply 158September 11, 2020 5:57 PM

Dave Wasserman: A likely factor behind Trump's '16-'20 improvement w/ Hispanic voters: he's actually running a robust Spanish-language ad campaign this time, as opposed to "here's a taco bowl...I love Hispanics!"

by Anonymousreply 159September 11, 2020 6:05 PM

R150 's post means that the delporables are on DL, and getting very loud about it.

by Anonymousreply 160September 11, 2020 6:09 PM

Reality is a vast right-wing conspiracy.

Guard your hearts, gays, fight the temptation to impure thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 161September 11, 2020 6:12 PM

Thanks for the input. I've been wondering about this myself.

And now, for some good news on the other sideL

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by Anonymousreply 162September 11, 2020 6:37 PM

[quote]Hopefully, the Democrats understand this and can broaden their appeal to the Latino/Latinx community. Otherwise, we're doomed.

You can start this outreach by never calling them the fucking "Latinx community" ever again.

by Anonymousreply 163September 11, 2020 7:51 PM

My question was not “Why do any Latinos vote Republican?” It was “Why is Trump doing better now with Latinos than he did last time?”

Thanks for those who have tried to answer. Fuck you to those who declare me a troll for asking.

by Anonymousreply 164September 11, 2020 8:54 PM

What's wrong with the word Latinx? Cisgender went over so well.

by Anonymousreply 165September 11, 2020 9:06 PM

Just spitballing here -- but what if Mexicans, Cubans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, etc, DON'T consider themselves POC first and foremost? What if -- farfetched, but just putting it out there -- what if they don't love black people to death and consider them their brothers in arms and comrades in the struggle? Might they be tired of hearing that BLM, BLM, BLM, BLM, BLM, all day and night if that were the case? Might they wonder whether Mexican lives matter? Whether Dominican lives matter?

Oh, it's silly, I know. BIPOC know they're BIPOC, are proud to identify as such, hate their own national and cultural identity, and consider everyone except white people to be their blood brothers. Carry on! Perhaps one day we'll get to the bottom of this mystery.

by Anonymousreply 166September 11, 2020 9:49 PM

Dominicans are mostly black, mini Puerto Ricans are too.

by Anonymousreply 167September 11, 2020 9:58 PM

Mini Puerto Ricans are too short to reach up in the voting booth, so they don't count.

by Anonymousreply 168September 11, 2020 10:31 PM

Many second generation hispanics I knew hated "wetbacks" and wanted them deported. From the "Pull up the ladder behind you" dept. of compassion.

by Anonymousreply 169September 11, 2020 10:51 PM

NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll of Latino voters shows Biden leading Trump by a margin of 62% to 26%.

This is a bit narrower than Clinton’s 66-28% margin with Latinos (per Pew’s study of ‘16 validated voters).

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by Anonymousreply 170September 21, 2020 12:04 AM

Yep, R156.

by Anonymousreply 171September 21, 2020 12:11 AM

What's wrong with the word Latinx

It’s not a word.

But Latin us.

So as far as I’m concerned they’re Latin, which means of Spanish or Indian descent (Central America & Caribbean). Irish aren't Irishx , French arent Frenchx. Latin.

by Anonymousreply 172September 21, 2020 12:24 AM

We'll see where the undecideds go, it might end up closer to Hillarys numbers when the voting happens.

by Anonymousreply 173September 21, 2020 12:29 AM

Because there are a lot of backwards, retarded Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 174September 21, 2020 12:31 AM

This is why I am being tired of allegations of so-called racism when calling out homophobia from people of color.

by Anonymousreply 175September 21, 2020 12:53 AM

Maybe they see things like this and figure poor Joe won't last long, but they don't want Kamala as his replacement

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by Anonymousreply 176September 21, 2020 3:36 AM

R176 Sounds doctored. Fake.

by Anonymousreply 177September 21, 2020 5:36 AM

[quote] Many second generation hispanics I knew hated "wetbacks" and wanted them deported. From the "Pull up the ladder behind you" dept. of compassion.

No, they want the ladder to remain in place, for those who climb it legally.

by Anonymousreply 178September 21, 2020 5:48 AM

I don't know about Latinx in general, but Mexicans have a heavy heritage. Read Octavio Paz's Labyrinth of Solitude.

by Anonymousreply 179September 21, 2020 6:06 AM

All criticism of Democrats is fake news. Believe what mainstream media tells you and NEVER, EVER, EVER QUESTION IT!

by Anonymousreply 180September 21, 2020 6:46 AM

Agree

by Anonymousreply 181September 21, 2020 1:10 PM

r180 I bet you are one of those gay republican hypocrites who instead of living in conservative republican cities would rather live in liberal democratic gay neighborhoods among gay liberals who vote for democratic politicians who support gay people and businesses.

really, you gay republicans are disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 182September 21, 2020 5:43 PM

As far as I’m concerned, refusing to vote for Biden makes you complicit in first-degree murder. When Biden is president, I want to see any at all opposition to him and his party criminalized brutally. I want every single act of police brutality that Black people have been unfairly subjected to since time immemorial subjected to the deplorables because unlike Black people, they have actually done something to deserve it. I want to see Black cops choking white racists to death for at least as long as those white cops did to George Floyd.

And if Kamala Harris wants slavery back so that she can be given reparations for what her grandfather had illegally taken away from him, then she can fucking have it. Blacks should be allowed to own white slaves. That is the only way you are even going to begin to make reparations for slavery.

by Anonymousreply 183September 21, 2020 6:31 PM

Latinos love a strong, macho alpha male. It's part of their culture.

by Anonymousreply 184September 21, 2020 6:56 PM

[quote]A majority of young Latinos support Biden over Trump, according to new survey

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by Anonymousreply 185September 21, 2020 6:58 PM

I know quite a few Latinos who are of 100% European Spanish heritage, and they're quite prejudiced against the mixed-race Mestizo Latinos, which is what most illegal immigrants are. They don't feel any kind of connection with them, and support Trump's immigration policies.

by Anonymousreply 186September 21, 2020 6:59 PM

And that orange, fat, disgusting piece of shit trump isn’t one, R184

None of the repigs are anything that those words describe.

by Anonymousreply 187September 21, 2020 7:26 PM

[quote] When Biden is president, I want to see any at all opposition to him and his party criminalized brutally.

That’s because you’re a fascist.

by Anonymousreply 188September 21, 2020 9:34 PM

[quote] And if Kamala Harris wants slavery back so that she can be given reparations for what her grandfather had illegally taken away from him

Where was her grandfather?

by Anonymousreply 189September 21, 2020 9:37 PM

Thanks, R185.

by Anonymousreply 190September 22, 2020 4:17 AM

Easy. He ain't. Pundits tried to turn one outlier poll into a narrative.

by Anonymousreply 191September 22, 2020 4:54 AM

538 aggregates polls.

by Anonymousreply 192September 22, 2020 1:24 PM

No, R188, you are and you're projecting it onto me because that's what fascists do, you fascist.

All opposition to Dems is by definition fascist. If you do not vote for Biden, then you should not fucking be allowed to vote.

by Anonymousreply 193September 22, 2020 2:40 PM

Not feeling a connection with them does not mean they are prejudiced against them, R186.

by Anonymousreply 194September 22, 2020 10:26 PM

So the Hispanic voters in the ABC/WaPo- 68-29.

Clinton 2016 was 66-28. Obama 2012 was 71-27, Obama 2008 was 67-31.

by Anonymousreply 195September 27, 2020 4:22 AM

stockholm syndrome. the irrational way the mind deals with fear: if they support trump publicly that they won't get deported, get citizenship faster, get relief/social services programs etc. These people are scared.

by Anonymousreply 196September 27, 2020 4:40 AM

At today’s Nicaraguans-with-Biden caravan in Miami (led by @ananavarro), this sign is proving specially popular.

“100% anti-communist, 100% anti-racist, 100% anti-fascist, 100% with Biden”

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by Anonymousreply 197September 27, 2020 4:47 AM

Another Latino here who hates “Latinx.”

And it’s only the Cubans who seem to favor the GOP.

And they’re a minority within a minority with a bloated sense of self-importance because they live in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 198September 27, 2020 5:17 AM

Well, it can't be anything wrong with the party.

What latinx in their right mind would not vote Dem? They're all locos and whatever the Puerto Divan version of a coon is.

by Anonymousreply 199September 27, 2020 5:21 AM

Democrats are never wrong. Never have been, never will be. Especially not about slavery.

by Anonymousreply 200September 27, 2020 5:23 AM

Is Nicaragua part of America? Can they vote?

by Anonymousreply 201September 27, 2020 5:26 AM

Nicaragua is part of the Ottoman Empire.

by Anonymousreply 202September 27, 2020 5:42 AM

[quote] straight white liberal males are more progressive than the people whose rights they champion.

Whatever bolsters their reputation, right?

by Anonymousreply 203September 27, 2020 7:05 AM

Of the Latino voters who have already cast a ballot in the 2020 general election, 8.2% are voting in their first election, ever. Compare that to 3.7% of white, non-Hispanic voters.

by Anonymousreply 204October 7, 2020 5:30 PM

No, R203, just honest. We did not champion the civil rights of minorities just so they could stab us in the back by voting against their best interests.

by Anonymousreply 205October 7, 2020 5:33 PM

They contribute to racism while claiming to be victims of it. This is how.

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by Anonymousreply 206October 7, 2020 5:35 PM

“Wypipo” means you, too. If you don’t want your minority card revoked, then vote for Democrats and nobody else.

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by Anonymousreply 207October 7, 2020 5:40 PM

I was out shopping this past weekend and I saw a Latino wearing a Trump 2020 mask....I couldn't believe my eyes

by Anonymousreply 208October 7, 2020 5:46 PM

No, R188, that’s because all opposition to Democrats is fascism. If you vote for any other candidate then Mighty Joe Biden, you are a fascist. And do you know what we do with fascists? Mussolini, the original fascist, sure does!

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by Anonymousreply 209October 7, 2020 5:47 PM

You haven’t been paying attention r208

by Anonymousreply 210October 7, 2020 5:52 PM

misangyny

by Anonymousreply 211October 7, 2020 5:56 PM

Plump is going to try to turn all the legal immigrants who came here legally into criminals if he wins again

Remind legal immigrants on social media with examples like this:

“How the Trump administration is turning legal immigrants into undocumented ones”

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by Anonymousreply 212October 7, 2020 6:14 PM

So the anti-Latino trolls are bumping this thread full of misinformation because the other thread paints Latinos in a better light ? How transparent.

It wounds the trolls to [bold]know[/bold] Democrats cannot win congress /WH without the Latin vote. [bold]Get used to it[/bold].

by Anonymousreply 213October 7, 2020 6:29 PM

A recent poll found 56 percent of recent Cuban immigrants planned to vote for Trump, up from 22 percent four years ago.

A number of factors are fueling this shift but many are crediting a new crop of right-wing personalities—in particular, this guy.

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by Anonymousreply 214October 8, 2020 1:20 PM

Cubans are assholes.

by Anonymousreply 215October 8, 2020 1:57 PM

[quote] A recent poll found 56 percent of recent Cuban immigrants planned to vote for Trump, up from 22 percent four years ago. A number of factors are fueling this shift but many are crediting a new crop of right-wing personalities—in particular, this guy

Cuban Americans are the rare bloc of Hispanic voters who truly lean Republican; in fact, they outright backed Trump in 2016. Trump is estimated to have won between 50 percent and 58 percent of Florida’s Cuban American vote in 2016, and this group has been even more Republican in past presidential elections . . .

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by Anonymousreply 216October 9, 2020 1:35 AM

Cubans believe they are superior to all of the other Latin American ethnic groups and really look down on them. They say things about Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Central Americans etc. that white racists would also say.

by Anonymousreply 217October 9, 2020 2:01 AM

Fuck the Cubans.

Worthless scum who were given the green light to come here for decades.

Then have the balls to look down on others trying to get here for a better life.

Again, fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 218October 9, 2020 6:45 PM

I did.

by Anonymousreply 219October 9, 2020 8:42 PM

Becoz Latinos are not very clever, Joo know.

by Anonymousreply 220October 9, 2020 8:54 PM

cubans are the inmigrants who have benefited the most from democrat policies. it is high time that democrats stop bringing cubans and venezuelans to the united states. im cuban, and i do not want these people in these country, only gay cubans should be allowed to stay in the country. right now cubans are being jailed and deportated, except those who can demostrate persecussion or threat to their lifes. many gay cubans are being allowed to stay and now there are some straights who are faking to be gay so ghey can get asylum. that is not new, when fidel castro expeled the gays in the eighties, many straights pretended to be gay so that they would be allow to get on a ship bound to miami.

the guy shown by r124 is alex otaola, a gay guy that has a youtube chanel with pro trump propaganda, and all sorts of anti democrat lies.

when biden came to miami ge promised that he was going to bring more cubans and venezuelans to the states. when that happens im planing to start sending letters to democrats who support these pro cuban inmigration policies telling them that us, the mayority of democrat voters, do not want these people anymore in this country.

by Anonymousreply 221October 11, 2020 6:39 PM

As R195 notes, just look at the polls. In 2016, per the exit polls, Latino voters backed Clinton 66% to 28%. In the most recent Fox News poll from 10/3 to 10/6, 69% of of Latino voters support Biden and 26% support Trump.

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by Anonymousreply 222October 11, 2020 6:49 PM

Sorry, I meant to post this link.

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by Anonymousreply 223October 11, 2020 6:49 PM

turnout in 2020 by Latinos 18-29 has increased 3x what it was at this point in 2016! Thanks to

@NextGenAmerica

by Anonymousreply 224October 21, 2020 5:46 PM

[quote] turnout in 2020 by Latinos 18-29 has increased 3x what it was at this point in 2016!

We'll see. They've missed before

by Anonymousreply 225October 22, 2020 1:59 AM

When you give someone a free lunch and a timeshare, you get their ear.

by Anonymousreply 226October 22, 2020 2:00 AM

The Latino gender gap is bigger than the gender gap among Black, Asian or white voters. About 40% of Latino men support Republicans, which is helping the party in Florida, Texas, Arizona, California and elsewhere

by Anonymousreply 227October 22, 2020 2:20 PM

Correct.

by Anonymousreply 228October 22, 2020 6:15 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 229October 22, 2020 9:55 PM

I love Latinos. They are harder working than most Americans and they actually try to assimilate to American culture. Nobody celebrate 4th of July like latinos.

by Anonymousreply 230October 23, 2020 7:36 AM

New link?

by Anonymousreply 231October 23, 2020 1:31 PM

They are doing this to try and appear white. If you hold any conservative beliefs on any issue, then that makes you white. Hell, it makes you more white than actual white people, especially since white liberals are the true Black people. White liberals know what’s best for you so you better vote like we do or don’t come crying to us when Donald Trump deports you.

by Anonymousreply 232October 23, 2020 3:13 PM

[quote] They are doing this to try and appear white

That makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 233October 24, 2020 12:32 AM

Geez, white people can't win. We appreciate black style or enjoy the music - appropriation. We try to help a situation or use our "privilege" to help a someone out - "white savior". Can we just ignore each other and call it a day?

by Anonymousreply 234October 24, 2020 12:42 AM

Here's the summary from the Times article:

"Among Latina women, Biden leads Trump by a whopping 34 percentage points (59 percent to 25 percent). Among Latino men, Biden’s lead is only eight points (47 percent to 39 percent). These patterns are similar across both Latino college graduates and those without a degree.

"Stephanie Valencia, the president of Equis Research, which focuses on Latino voters, told us that its polls suggest that Latino men may have even moved slightly toward Trump this year. If so, they are the only large demographic group to do so."

"… what has alienated so many older, female and suburban voters is a key part of Mr. Trump’s appeal to these men, interviews with dozens of Mexican-American men supporting Mr. Trump shows: To them, the macho allure of Mr. Trump is undeniable. He is forceful, wealthy and, most important, unapologetic. In a world where at any moment someone might be attacked for saying the wrong thing, he says the wrong thing all the time and does not bother with self-flagellation."

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If those numbers hold up, and the undecideds split, then Biden would win the Hispanic vote nationally by something like 22 points, roughly 60-38, given a couple of points to third party. Hillary won Hispanics by 38 points, 66-28. That's the reason a state like Florida is tighter than it otherwise should be, given so many areas that have shifted toward Biden.

This survey is interesting because Hispanics always tilt unusually toward a presidential incumbent, but I had never seen it broken down by gender. Maybe it has always been the males who are accounting for the bulk of that change.

by Anonymousreply 235October 24, 2020 1:01 AM

NEW @UnivisionNews poll of Latino voters:

NATIONAL: Biden 67% Trump 26% TEXAS: Biden 66% Trump 28% FLORIDA: Biden 57% Trump 37% ARIZONA: Biden 66% Trump 26% PENNSYLVANIA Biden 67% Trump 25%

Graphic below is new state poll in each state:

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by Anonymousreply 236October 28, 2020 6:11 PM

Has Gloria Estefan commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 237October 28, 2020 6:19 PM

Chair of Texas Dem Party tells @danielmarans that no door knocking or in-person campaigning was the “single most important problem we had” reaching Latinos “It’s very hard to do effective campaigning with Latinos unless you’re talking to them in person”

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by Anonymousreply 238November 7, 2020 12:12 AM

Biden didn’t even need Florida or Texas, the only two stares where this is relevant.

by Anonymousreply 239November 7, 2020 12:17 AM

*states

by Anonymousreply 240November 7, 2020 12:17 AM

Why it’s malpractice to conflate the working class with the *white* working class:

Trump won whites w/out a degree by 29 pts.

Biden won non-whites w/out a degree by 46 pts.

Trump won all voters w/ household incomes over $100k by 11, while Biden won those under $100k by 13.

by Anonymousreply 241November 7, 2020 2:44 PM

DEMS NEED TO REACH OUT TO LATINOS BETTER OR WE’LL LOSE FUTURE ELECTIONS!

Florida Latinos- Trump got 44% in 2020 33-35% in 2016

“55% of Florida's Cuban vote went to Trump, according to NBC News exit polls, 30% of Puerto Ricans & 48% of other Latinos.”

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by Anonymousreply 242November 7, 2020 2:56 PM

[quote] DEMS NEED TO REACH OUT TO LATINOS BETTER OR WE’LL LOSE FUTURE ELECTIONS!

Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote. Which is what Republicans normally get and which means 70% of Latinos continue to support Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 243November 9, 2020 9:29 PM

R23 nailed it.

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by Anonymousreply 244November 9, 2020 9:35 PM

Those lying pony soldiers aren't real Latinos. I didn't even see even one sombrero.

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by Anonymousreply 245November 9, 2020 10:48 PM

(CNN)President Donald Trump picked up more Latino voters in several key battleground states than he won in 2016, according to results of a nationwide CNN exit poll.

The President captured almost half of the group in Florida, up from 35% in 2016. Former Vice President Joe Biden earned just over half of the Latino vote in the state, compared to 62% who supported Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton four years ago. Biden also lost support among Latino voters in Georgia and Ohio, important states to capturing the White House. The former vice president was up only about 16 percentage points in Georgia and about 24 points in Ohio, compared to Clinton's margin of 40 percentage points and 41 points in Georgia and Ohio, respectively. However, in preliminary results from Arizona, Latino voters favored Biden by nearly 2 to 1, with Trump barely making a dent. Clinton also won the Latino vote there handily in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 246November 10, 2020 12:14 AM

Republicans showed strength with Hispanic Texans

Biden won the Hispanic vote by 19 points this year, according to the exits, but that’s down from Hillary Clinton’s 27-point margin in 2016. A number of heavily Hispanic counties in the Rio Grande Valley shifted toward Trump: Zapata County, to name one, broke for Trump by 5 points with most of the expected vote counted after Clinton won it by more than 30 points in 2016. The president’s share of the county’s vote jumped from 33 percent to 52 percent in his reelection bid.

by Anonymousreply 247November 10, 2020 12:16 AM

Victoria DeFrancesco Soto, a politics professor at the University of Texas, told the Texas Tribune that Biden underperformed with Hispanics because he wasn’t as well known to them as Hillary Clinton and the Covid-19 pandemic limited his campaign’s voter outreach.

The Trump campaign, on the other hand, pushed ahead with its ground game, despite the public health crisis, and it paid off. From the Tribune’s Emma Platoff:

“The Valley is old school, and you need that grassroots mobilization,” she said. “And there wasn’t grassroots work, at least on the Democratic side, because of the pandemic. And arguably the GOP did have at least a bit more grassroots work because they had a different vision of public health.”

“That to me explains the Biden underperformance: He really wasn’t known, and then he didn’t have the time to make it up,” she added.

Trump, meanwhile, launched a Latino outreach initiative for his 2020 bid, she noted.

Republicans had hoped their willingness to knock on doors during the pandemic would give them an edge over Democrats, some of whom leaned on remote campaigning methods. Some Democratic strategists had been warning for weeks that Democrats were struggling with Hispanic voters in places like Texas. Chuck Rocha, who had focused on those voters for Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, told Vox’s Nicole Narea in early September that outside Democratic groups were not focusing enough on the Latino vote.

by Anonymousreply 248November 10, 2020 12:16 AM

Four months, people were sounding alarm that Democrats were getting their asses handed to them by Republicans who were registering lots of new voters and going door to door to galvanize people to vote for them, while Democrats suspended such critical campaign activity.

by Anonymousreply 249November 10, 2020 12:18 AM

One of the biggest surprises of the 2020 election was Zapata County, TX. Trump became the first R pres. nominee since 1920 to carry this 94% Hispanic county. He got 2,032 votes there, double his 1,029 in 2016. Not a huge county, but Zapata was emblematic of his gains in the RGV.

by Anonymousreply 250November 10, 2020 1:15 AM

“Are we 100% certain this doesn’t soften the ground enough so that what seems almost unthinkable becomes thinkable? Are we 100% certain the state legislature in, say, Georgia, won’t start considering things that now seem outside the realm of the possible?”

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by Anonymousreply 251November 10, 2020 1:18 AM

Yet:

Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote. Which is what Republicans normally get and which means 70% of Latinos continue to support Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 252November 10, 2020 1:26 AM

MIAMI — From the time President Donald Trump took office, he focused on the Latino vote in Florida, and according to figures coming out of the state, it paid off on Election Day, especially in Miami-Dade County, the most populous in the state.

Around 55 percent of Florida's Cuban-American vote went to Trump, according to NBC News exit polls, while 30 percent of Puerto Ricans and 48 percent of "other Latinos" backed Trump. Trump won the coveted battleground state with its 29 electoral votes.

Trump drastically improved his support in Miami-Dade County, going from 333,999 votes in 2016 to at least 529,16 votes this year. Biden, however, wasn’t able to grow Democratic support in the county. Clinton got 624,146 votes there in 2016 and with 95 percent of the vote tallied, Biden had 613,086.

Trump's popularity also seems to have affected down-ballot races, with two House Democrats from South Florida losing in early ballot returns to Republican challengers:Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, the first South American-born member of Congress, was trailing Carlos Gimenez, the Miami-Dade County mayor, and Rep. Donna Shalala was trailing TV host and commentator Maria Elvira Salazar.

by Anonymousreply 253November 10, 2020 1:37 AM

Why Rio Grande Valley Latinos turned toward Trump

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by Anonymousreply 254November 10, 2020 11:33 AM

A traditionally Democratic county in Texas voted for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in nearly 100 years.

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by Anonymousreply 255November 13, 2020 3:49 AM

"Disinformation has been weaponized to poach on immigrant fears so that, like their white working-class counterparts, some Asian and Latino immigrants are voting against their economic interests," writes @cathyparkhong

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by Anonymousreply 256December 20, 2020 5:09 PM

Slandering Joe Biden as a socialist or communist, when he's no more socialist than any Republican.

Simple-minded simpletons mistaking the phony rantings of a lunatic as "machismo."

by Anonymousreply 257December 20, 2020 5:13 PM

More Latinos will be flocking to the Republican Party when they become fed up with the exclusive attention being paid to blacks as being the only minority that counts.

by Anonymousreply 258December 20, 2020 7:27 PM

[quote] More Latinos will be flocking to the Republican Party when they become fed up with the exclusive attention being paid to blacks as being the only minority that counts.

1. Latino is not a race.

2. The non Hispanic whites that make up the majority of the country prevent the needs of minorities from being addressed. There is no exclusive focus on black Americans.

3. Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote in both 2016 and 2020. Which is normal for Republicans.

4. White supremacists continue to attempt to pit minorities against each other.

by Anonymousreply 259December 24, 2020 3:24 AM

Trump’s gains w. Latino voters can’t be reduced to bumper sticker stereotypes like “machismo” or Florida/Texas dynamics .. He saw a baseline shift that cut across a cross section of demos/geographies, incl. women, younger foreign-born, NJ, Wisc., Nev.

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by Anonymousreply 260April 2, 2021 11:04 AM

Don’t know if this has already been addressed, but the answer may be as simple as it’s very hard to defeat a president running for re-election. Trump was the president since Hoover (1932) to be denied a 2nd term when he had no significant primary opposition and/or a strong 3rd party candidate in the general election. Add the stimulus checks sent out on the eve of the election, & it’s not so hard to see why Trump’s numbers improved in certain communities.

by Anonymousreply 261April 2, 2021 1:05 PM

Here's the shift between the 2016 Ohio Senate Race (R +20) and the 2020 Presidential Election (R +8). Despite the overall blue shift from 2016, Biden still did much worse in Appalachia and Cleveland's Hispanic precincts. The latter should be particularly concerning for Dems.

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by Anonymousreply 262April 8, 2021 2:03 AM

The partisanship differences between White and Black self-identified evangelicals is...large.

74% of Whites ID as Republican. 76% of Blacks ID as Democrats.

50% of Hispanic evangelicals are Democrats, 35% are Republicans.

Asian: 36% Democrat, 46% Republican

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by Anonymousreply 263May 3, 2021 7:02 PM

R8, you might be on to something. My mother's side of the family is Latino. We are of Puerto Rican, Guatemalan and Spanish heritage, third and fourth generation. Many of my third and fourth generation Latino relatives have assimilated and don't live in the inner cities, we're in the suburbs. I see this with my cousins and other third and fourth generation Latino Americans, they're sort of disconnected from the struggles and hardships their grandparents went through. They've worked hard to succeed and want to protect what they've earned. So, yes, in some cases, there is that "I've got mine, get your own" attitude which aligns with the Trump "America First" rallying cry.

by Anonymousreply 264May 3, 2021 7:26 PM

Texas Latinos continue trending Republican

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by Anonymousreply 265June 6, 2021 11:29 AM
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