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Could someone explain why Trump is doing better with Latinos in 2020 than he did in 2016?

Heard on MSNBC that Clinton beat Trump by 40% among Latinos, but Biden is now leading among them by only 30%.

by Anonymousreply 262Last Wednesday at 6:03 PM

Latinos lurved Hillary

by Anonymousreply 107/24/2020

But Trump has shown himself to be their enemy over the last years.

by Anonymousreply 207/24/2020

Latinos are Machismo Religious nuts

by Anonymousreply 307/24/2020

Here's one point of view:

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by Anonymousreply 407/24/2020

Trump did a great job promoting the national food of Mexico, the taco salad.

by Anonymousreply 507/24/2020

I thought Latinos were mad at Obama over his immigration policy too

by Anonymousreply 607/24/2020

They’re getting whiter with every generation

by Anonymousreply 707/24/2020

With many Latinos, it may be an "I got mine" type of attitude, and they don't have compassion and understanding for their less fortunate Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 807/24/2020

Within a generation, they turn Republican. The male figure is dominant, fundamentally religious, have lots of babies, anti-abortion, not fond of gays, and resistant to paying taxes.

by Anonymousreply 907/24/2020

A corrupt, narcissistic, populist blowhard is actually a common aspect in Latin American culture on all sides of the political spectrum.

by Anonymousreply 1007/24/2020

FAKE NEWS

Biden is still winning Hispanics

Biden’s only down historically among Hispanics by about 5 percent and that’s only because Hispanics don’t know him whereas they loved Bernie Sanders.

The Biden numbers will shoot up for Election Day after Hispanics get to know him and they’ll vote about 70% for the Democrat like they always do.

You have to be a really desperate right winger to think that 44% of Hispanics for Biden versus 40% for Trump is good news for Trump, especially when every, other group is leaving the Trumpster Fire in droves!

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by Anonymousreply 1107/24/2020

They’re not going to vote for Trump when Trump locks their children in cages and calls all Mexicans “rapists.”

by Anonymousreply 1207/24/2020

What r11 said.

Fake news.

by Anonymousreply 1307/24/2020

A lot of people are like that, R8.

I got mine fuck everybody else.

That’s how my cunty supervisor sees it.

When the caravans were coming, she was “why are they coming?” Stupid bitch, why the fuck are you here? Why did your parents come over years ago?

I still don’t understand why or how Bernie had such large numbers here in TX.

by Anonymousreply 1407/24/2020

More proof that straight white liberal males are more progressive than the people whose rights they champion.

by Anonymousreply 1507/24/2020

Bernie was and is a fauxgressive.

by Anonymousreply 1607/24/2020

By the third generation they usually don’t learn Spanish or think of themselves as Hispanic. Everyone who says they do jobs Americans don’t want to do are correct for the first and maybe second generation, but everyone wants their kids to have better opportunities than they had.

by Anonymousreply 1707/24/2020

Thank you R11. We had a thread on this weeks ago and determined it was manipulated news then, too.

by Anonymousreply 1807/24/2020

Here's the old thread. Basically Trump is still losing Latinos by a large margin, just not as large a margin as 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 1907/24/2020

Historically, Latinos have polled near 40% (which is what the Hill poll said Trump was at) for both Reagan and W in their second terms. This isn't really new, it seems to come and go.

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by Anonymousreply 2007/24/2020

They ain’t black.

by Anonymousreply 2107/24/2020

They’re Catholics. They hate abortion, gays. It’s very simple. Biden is smart to go after the white people that will vote for him instead of chasing conservative Latinos who never will. Legal immigrants also hate illegal immigrants for some reason. I grew up in San Diego. Most Mexican men were full on gay hating republicans.

by Anonymousreply 2207/24/2020

It's the beans.

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by Anonymousreply 2307/24/2020

It's the same old church crap. They are conservative on social issues.

by Anonymousreply 2407/24/2020

Straight black men are just as conservative on social issues if not fiscal ones.

by Anonymousreply 2507/24/2020

I shit you not, I JUST had a "Latinos for Trump" ad play right before a video on YouTube.

by Anonymousreply 2607/24/2020

Before Covid they had the lowest unemployment rate ever.

by Anonymousreply 2707/24/2020

Thank you, R23. That explains it.

by Anonymousreply 2807/25/2020

Note at r4 there are two Latinos in front & the rest are white people.

by Anonymousreply 2907/25/2020

And once again I will explain to DLers that saying "Latinos" is like saying "Europeans" as there are major differences between the various groups.

• Wealthy white Cubans and South Americans (Venezuelans in particular) in Miami

• Third or fourth generation Puerto Ricans in NYC

• Second generation Dominicans in NYC

• Fifth or sixth generation Mexicans in the southwest and California

• Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) in California, Texas and Chicago

•  Central American immigrants all over the country

They all face different levels of discrimination, different levels of poverty and differing background in their home countries.

And run the gamut from blonde-haired, blue-eyed Argentinians to "blatino" Dominicans.

by Anonymousreply 3007/25/2020

^same comment can be made about whites, blacks, Asians

by Anonymousreply 3107/25/2020

Maybe they are shy Biden voters who pretend that they would vote Trump?

by Anonymousreply 3207/25/2020

Latinos have the highest rate of small business ownership out of all demos. Trump talks a lot about supporting small business owners.

Also, Hispanics think Democrats are using immigration as a wedge issue to get elected and re-elected and will never take action on it. The anger is palpable.

Trump has repeatedly pledged to come up with a permanent solution. That is attractive to some people, to just know where there stand and lose the uncertainty.

by Anonymousreply 3307/25/2020

Yes R31

Hence "saying "Latinos" is like saying "Europeans" "

by Anonymousreply 3407/25/2020

R23 LMAO

by Anonymousreply 3507/25/2020

Hispanics are mostly white. Latinos are mixed.

by Anonymousreply 3607/25/2020

R36 The terms are interchangeable. The racial terms are criollo (hispanic of Spanish heritage) and mestizo (mixed European and native.) Mulato gets used for people who have mixed Euopean and African ancestry, but it's more common to hear negro (black) or moreno (dark-complected.)

by Anonymousreply 3707/25/2020

But even the Pope has made it pretty clear he can't abide what Trump stands for.

by Anonymousreply 3807/25/2020

And Biden is Catholic! But he separates church from state. But it took him awhile to get there.

by Anonymousreply 3907/25/2020

Because Latinos love their authoritarians no matter right or left: Franco, Stroessner, Peron, Batista, Castro, Pinochet, Videla, Noriega, Trujillo, Ortega, Pinilla, Chavez, Maduro, Duarte, etc etc

He's a caudillo in gringo disguise.

by Anonymousreply 4007/25/2020

Catholicism: anti-women; anti-abortion; anti-LGBTQ... And they love his bling.

by Anonymousreply 4107/25/2020

Tards!

by Anonymousreply 4207/25/2020

This morning, from the Miami Herald, emerges this bullshit:

𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧’𝐬 𝐜𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐢𝐬 ‘𝐬𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐢𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐜 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞’ 𝐢𝐧 𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚, 𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦𝐬

"Over 90 field organizers for the Florida Democratic Party signed a scathing letter Friday to the party’s leadership, claiming among other things that the campaign is “suppressing the Hispanic vote” in Central Florida.

The seven-page internal letter, obtained by the Miami Herald, contains eight allegations from field organizers about what they say is a lack of a “fully actionable field plan” from the Biden campaign as it transitions into the Florida party to coordinate voter outreach efforts.

This letter comes 100 days out from the general election and as recent polls show enthusiasm about voting among Latinos in battleground states like Florida could be waning in light of the COVID-19 pandemic."

Doubtless this too is being astroturfed.

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by Anonymousreply 4307/26/2020

White liberals are retarded, that's why.

White liberals and blacks just destroyed black communities all across America with all their retarded rioting and looting. This makes blacks 100% dependent on white liberals for their income and support.

Hispanics are laughing their asses off at the both of you.

Hispanics will be brought in to reconstruct those communities while opening new Hispanic businesses, creating even more opportunities for Hispanics. Hispanics will take over those black communities and push them out just like in LA.

Republicans and bankers will encourage this. I predict Trump will grant more visas to make this happen before the election.

Blacks cause destruction and cost society money, Hispanics build society and generate income. Blacks need to get their shit together so they can compete since the rest of the world, Hispanics and Asians, are leaving them far behind.

by Anonymousreply 4407/26/2020

I see mostly white people and some black at these protests. Hispanics mostly stay away.

by Anonymousreply 4507/26/2020

R44 If Hispanics "build society & generate income" then why are so many trying to get into white majority nations like the US & Canada?

Why is Mexico so corrupt & teetering on the edge of collapse from these wonderful nation builders?

Out of 179 nations (higher numbers are better), these majority hispanic counties are all in the most corrupt half of nations on the planet = Ecuador at #93, Columbia at #96, Panama & Peru tie at #101, Brazil at #106, El Salvador at #113, Bolivia at #123, Mexico at #130, Paraguay at #137, Guatemala & Honduras tie at #146, Nicaragua at #161, Haiti at #168 & Venezuela at #173.

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by Anonymousreply 4707/26/2020

Wonder what's really going on there, R43. The letter claims four staffers were moved to a different location and that was a big problem, though it doesn't explain WHY moving four staffers is a problem. And the state director says no one has been moved for six weeks.

The fact that they claim Biden is "suppressing" votes makes this whole thing sketchy. Nothing they said comes anywhere close to suppressing votes. They just used that title to get attention from the media, which calls their motives into question. If it was me, I'd clear the lot of them out of there and restaff with Latino voters who are committed to working, rather than pulling publicity stunts designed to hurt the party.

by Anonymousreply 4807/26/2020

Hell the way some elder gays go on about women, lesbians and other issues on here, I think they support him too.

by Anonymousreply 4907/26/2020

Yes, R49, there are Trump supporters here at the DL.

There's not a reliable way to determine if they're actually eldergays, or if they're paid trolls, though.

by Anonymousreply 5007/26/2020

They don’t vote. It doesn’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 5107/26/2020

Just shows we need a Lincoln Project in Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 5207/26/2020

They influence real voters with their bullshit, R51. It does matter.

by Anonymousreply 5307/26/2020

The trans-haters are all trump supporters.

by Anonymousreply 5407/26/2020

R52 Latino voters speak English just fine.

by Anonymousreply 5507/26/2020

Sure thing, he kidnaps immigrant children, puts infants and babies in cages, and denies medical treatment (or decent basic treatment of any kind) on the border, and Latinos are going to vote for that? Really? Who?

I live in a border state. Latinos HATE Trump, they know him for exactly what he is - a monster.

by Anonymousreply 5607/26/2020

And keep in mind, the most recent survey of Hispanics was in MID-APRIL, people!

Who knows what Trump did to their support with all his COVID bungling, protest busting and COVID skyrocketing all summer! Hispanics are being disproportionately infected and killed by COVID-19 at rates HIGHER than whites!

by Anonymousreply 5707/26/2020

r20 is more FAKE NEWS, probably deliberately designed to fool you into thinking Hispanics support Trump.

HISTORICALLY, HISPANICS VOTE ABOUT 70% FOR THE DEMOCRAT AND 305 FOR THE REPUBLICAN. Don't get it twisted.

—349,226,938.75/10, BORIS!

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by Anonymousreply 5907/26/2020

r33 = Deplorability in real time.

by Anonymousreply 6007/26/2020

r44 = TEXTBOOK RUSSIAN DIVISION CAMPAIGN

If his name isn't Boris, it's Natasha. All he cares about his setting Americans at each others' throats so Putin can conquer the world and commit atrocities unchallenged.

There's nothing black, Hispanic or American about him. F&F!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 6107/26/2020

r51 = Tired, Deplorable wishful thinking. I can't wait till Hair Furor goes straight down the shitter on Nov. 3. It will be fun to bump this thread!

by Anonymousreply 6207/26/2020

I meant Hispanics historically vote about 70% for the Democrat and 30% for the Republican.

I got it twisted.

by Anonymousreply 6307/26/2020

Doesn't OP ask this same question every time? He knows it's bullshit since Hispanics are about to turn Arizona blue and most like turn Texas' lower chamber blue and well as turn a few districts as well.

by Anonymousreply 6407/26/2020

Most terfs are not Republican. At least not the ones that post on the site. They’re classic feminists like JK Rowling who think trans is incompatible with womens rights. Some gay men feel this way too because other countries pretend that we don’t exist.

by Anonymousreply 6507/26/2020

[quote] Doesn't OP ask this same question every time?

Every time what?

by Anonymousreply 6607/26/2020

Latinos aren’t smart and desperate to be accepted by whites.

by Anonymousreply 6707/26/2020

R46 Most avenues for economic advancement in Latin America for poor/working class/lower middle class Latinos are closed. This is why they come to the U.S. Here they can achieve the economic success that is impossible in Latin America. Most Latin American countries are too classist and racist.

by Anonymousreply 6807/26/2020

R59, that's not fake news, the numbers are right there.

There are two examples of Latinos voting nearly 40% for Republican incumbents: Reagan and W in their 2nd elections. That's it. They didn't WIN the Latino vote, they just got 35% to 40% of it on those years.

I'm so sick of you paranoid all caps queens trying to make everyday people who are posting factual information into villains because it's not what you want to hear.

by Anonymousreply 6907/26/2020

Trump has this teflon thing where he can do no wrong.

when I was in high school, two people ran for class president, a studious guy and a class clown who ran on a platform of no homework and longer recess - two things he couldn't control.

the clown won.

Some people never outgrown how they feel in high school.

by Anonymousreply 7007/26/2020

R26, was it the one with a husband and wife who own a restaurant? I got that ad after read through this thread.

by Anonymousreply 7107/27/2020

Fuck your, R67.

I don’t give a rats ass if some fucking gringo accepts me or not.

We will be the majority soon enough, asshole.

by Anonymousreply 7207/27/2020

R70 You had recess in high school?

by Anonymousreply 7307/28/2020

NBC: Trump Getting 31% of Latin vote

by Anonymousreply 7408/16/2020

R74 That's a pretty low, safe estimate in my view.

by Anonymousreply 7508/16/2020

[quote] NBC: Trump Getting 31% of Latin vote

How many times are you going to post this today?

1980 Ronald Reagan, 35%

1984 Ronald Reagan, 37%

1988 George H.W. Bush, 30%

1992 George H.W. Bush, 25%

1996 Bob Dole, 21%

2000 George W. Bush, 35%

2004 George W. Bush, 40%

2008 John McCain, 31%

2012 Mitt Romney, 27%

2016 Donald Trump, 29%

by Anonymousreply 7608/16/2020

Second generation Latinos vote republican

by Anonymousreply 7708/20/2020

R77 Yep. Those would be the citizens, not their immigrant parents who can't vote.

by Anonymousreply 7808/20/2020

Trump is doing much better with Latinos and African Americans than Hillary, according to newest polls

by Anonymousreply 7909/08/2020

Nate Cohn: Yet interestingly, none of those Fox results have really been contradicted. Instead, there's a bunch of tight results in states other than where Fox polled. With so few polls, this could all be noise. Or it could mean Biden's doing well in WI/AZ/NC but not FL/PA

by Anonymousreply 8009/08/2020

New NBC News/Marist poll of Florida:

Biden 48% Trump 48%

Aug 31-Sept 6 of 766 likely voters, +/- 4.5%

(This is our first 2020 poll of FL)

by Anonymousreply 8109/08/2020

Many Latinos (like my mother) are vehemently anti- illegal immigrant. They believe if they came to the US “the right way” everyone else should too. Abortion is a also a thing for devout catholic latinos.

by Anonymousreply 8209/08/2020

If the Marist poll is correct, Trump is winning Florida Latinos now

by Anonymousreply 8309/08/2020

Has Biden been to Florida this summer? @mmurraypolitics Time for the Biden campaign to start throwing their weight around in FL. Latino outreach and turnout is critical.

by Anonymousreply 8409/08/2020

No, I can't.

by Anonymousreply 8509/08/2020

One of the reasons my aunt (by marriage), got her citizenship was so she could vote for Trump. She's originally from Cuba.

by Anonymousreply 8609/08/2020

R79 Huh? What now?

by Anonymousreply 8709/08/2020

Perry Bacon Jr. today

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by Anonymousreply 8809/08/2020

I can't even begin to tell you how unsupportive Hispanics (Mexican-Americans at least) are of the riots. They. Hate. It.

Anything which hurts small business owners is anathema among Hispanics. They won't vote for it.

by Anonymousreply 8909/08/2020

The democrats are also letting BLM hijack their entire narrative. It’s not appealing to others. Hispanic people may also be getting sick of hearing how blacks are underrepresented in media when hispanic people are far less represented and a larger portion of the population.

by Anonymousreply 9009/08/2020

Latinos I know hate illegal immigration (their families came legally), so they like Trump’s border policy.

by Anonymousreply 9109/08/2020

[quote] I live in a border state. Latinos HATE Trump

Are they illegals or related to illegals? That seems to make a difference.

by Anonymousreply 9209/08/2020

A thread started by a Troll.

They are scared because Latinos are the future majority of the USA and people from both the Right [and left] are waking up to the reality that things are going to change, for the better in this case.

Latinos have a great track record in turning Red states into Blue states and it scares people. It scares people because they are doing it at 65% capacity, and they are getting more unified with each passing election.

Pobrecitos los Americanitos...

by Anonymousreply 9309/08/2020

I am so over the dizzy queen who keeps posting about BLM hijacking the narrative that this bozo has concocted in his head. Get a new talking point trick. That one is as old and tired as you are.

by Anonymousreply 9409/08/2020

Ron Brownstein: The core tension in the modern electoral landscape: While changes in the underlying demography are more favorable for Democrats in the Sun Belt, their capacity to win White voters remains much greater in the Rust Belt." That's true w/both college & especially non-college whites.”

by Anonymousreply 9509/08/2020

Catholic and family oriented. Plus it comes with the Spanish machismo culture. It's also why the second largest group of Asians in the country - Filipinos (fun fact!) - are Republican/lean Republican.

Also, as much as the Academic crowd wants to lump all "black and brown" (read: non-white) voices in some anti-white coalition, Latinos largely do not care for American blacks, have no connection to the "black experience," give fuck all about slavery, etc. As Latinos become more "Americanized" and, in turn, America becomes more knowledgeable about Hispanic cultures, they blend well.

The majority of Americans do not have an anti-racial animus against Latinos. Latinos are seen as hard working, Christian, family-oriented, etc.

The matter of illegal immigration is a sticking point because Latinos happen to be the source of it from our border, which is why Democrats use it as a wedge issue and extrapolate it as being an entirely racial thing against all Latinos (of all backgrounds; the Uruguayan certainly has fuck all in common with the Mexican).

This, over time, will shift them Republican. BLM and looting isn't helping, just like it isn't with whites, and even other blacks.

by Anonymousreply 9609/08/2020

Well then those people are scum of the highest order, R91.

Selfish assholes that don’t care about other people besides themselves.

My mom and dad came over legally but I see why all those people are trying to come here, to what is now a shithole country.

I don’t begrudge them wanting better for themselves and their families.

How quick they seem to forget. Why the fuck are they now here? Why did their parents come over in the first place??????

Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 9709/08/2020

Deplorable Detector Alert: r96

by Anonymousreply 9809/08/2020

Oh, am I? And what's your counterpoint, dumb cunt R98? Systemic raaaaaaaaaaaacism?

by Anonymousreply 9909/08/2020

R99 is horrible

by Anonymousreply 10009/08/2020

R93 There is a world of difference between people from Latin America who live in the U. S. and Americans born and raised here who are of Hispanic descent. Only one of those two can vote. Everyone is massively underestimating how conservative Hispanic American citizens are.

by Anonymousreply 10109/08/2020

"If I vote for him, I'll be white and rich, too."

by Anonymousreply 10209/08/2020

Today's Marist poll from Florida: "The poll finds Trump with a narrow lead among Latino voters, 50 percent to 46 percent. In 2016, Clinton outpaced Trump among Latinos, 62 percent to 35 percent, according to exit polling." (Washington Post)

Who can explain this? It's obviously not all Cubans. And although I know Latino voters are conservative in a lot of ways, that doesn't explain why so many would shift from Democrat to Republican in four years.

I would prefer Biden spent time in Florida at the moment than in the Midwest, where his polling numbers are a lot better.

by Anonymousreply 10309/08/2020

I think R97 nailed it. That's why the POC mantra is a loser. POC are a variety of people who don't share the same experiences or ideology.

by Anonymousreply 10409/08/2020

Because most Latinos are desperate for white America to accept them so they will do anything to kiss white peoples asses, even though Republicans despise them and treat them like shit.

by Anonymousreply 10509/08/2020

R96 Is right. If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the naysayers on this thread are either Hispanic themselves or have a connection to the community.

by Anonymousreply 10609/08/2020

He’s making up for it with seniors. If Latinos want to vote against their own well being then let them. Biden may not even need them.

by Anonymousreply 10709/08/2020

Biden and Harris need to camp out in Florida. Why aren’t they on the campaign trail doing multiple events a day?

by Anonymousreply 10809/08/2020

Wow. The so called tolerant left sure is showing their fucking racism at the mere thought a class of people may not vote their way.

"Kissing white people's asses"? Really?

by Anonymousreply 10909/08/2020

[quote]The democrats are also letting BLM hijack their entire narrative. It’s not appealing to others. Hispanic people may also be getting sick of hearing how blacks are underrepresented in media when hispanic people are far less represented and a larger portion of the population.

Too fucking bad. Most Hispanics are racist towards blacks anyway, so fuck them. And if they think Republicans will treat them better, let them be stupid and vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 11009/08/2020

Oops, I meant R96 nailed it. I think Latinos are too diverse a group to easily label.

by Anonymousreply 11109/08/2020

If Hispanics are breaking for Trump can the gays be far behind?

by Anonymousreply 11209/08/2020

[quote]Why aren’t they on the campaign trail doing multiple events a day?

The schedule is on the website. They are doing quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 11309/08/2020

Latinos are not a monolithic voting block. Culturally, Latinos can be all over the place with retentions of both liberal and conservative social attitudes. But generally speaking tend to be socially conservative but fiscally liberal. But they will sometimes cross over to vote for candidates who align with socially conservative beliefs regardless of whether or not the fiscal policies align with progressive thinking.

To make an interesting comparison with Asian-Americans as a voting block, AAs lean liberal with regards to social services, and are against government using religion (Christianity) to limit personal rights that aid in discrimination. AAs tend to lean fiscally conservative. However, nothing scares AAs more than Christian conservatives, even if their conservative fiscal policies are palatable. So in a sense, AAs will vote against their own financial interests because the Jesus freaks really turn them off.

by Anonymousreply 11409/08/2020

Abortion is a much bigger issue for many Latinos than immigration

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Young Latinos are prolife

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by Anonymousreply 11609/08/2020

Second and third generation Latinos turn Republicans. Cuban-Mericans go Republican at the get-go.

Religious fundamentalists, extensive procreation, anti-abortion, low education, anti-gay, anti-tax, love Walmart, conservative, etc.

They are not reliable Democratic voters.

by Anonymousreply 11709/08/2020

Trump Is also polling significantly better with blacks than Republicans have done in a long time

by Anonymousreply 11809/08/2020

I think the culture issues are peeling some black and Latin evangelicals towards Trump. I know multiple black people who say they are voting Trump because of Abortion, religious liberty, and illegal immigration. Young blacks

by Anonymousreply 11909/08/2020

Source: Microsoft News

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Trump in Florida's largest county is tightening, according to a new poll, bolstering the president's hopes in the must-win swing state.

The poll, from the firm Bendixen & Amandi International and the Miami Herald, shows Biden garnering 55 percent of the vote in Miami-Dade County to Trump's 38 percent. While that 17-point lead is well outside the poll's 4.4 percentage point margin of error, it's well short of then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's 30-point victory there in 2016.

The survey also found Biden and Trump statistically tied among Miami-Dade Hispanics. The former vice president carried 46 percent support among those voters to Trump's 47 percent.

There's little doubt that Biden will win Miami-Dade in the November election. Democratic presidential candidates have carried the county, which encompasses Miami and its suburbs, for decades.

But Trump doesn't need to win Miami-Dade in November to capture Florida's 29 electoral votes, and if he's successful at narrowing Biden's margin of victory there, it could help him make up for possible deficits in other parts of the state, such as in the swing counties along the I-4 corridor in Central Florida.

by Anonymousreply 12009/08/2020

I have a few Latino friends from my neighborhood and many are first time homebuyers. They fear the protesters and rioters that are supported by the Dem party and do not want to feel unsafe in their communities. They feel they worked hard to have a house in a safe place and fear that a change to Biden would threaten their safety.

by Anonymousreply 12109/08/2020

This is not soothing especially with Cohen's book saying Trump considers blacks and Hispanics stupid. And, here we have Hispanics for Trump. What Cohen means by stupid is probably that Trump can manipulate them.

Marist poll has Trump up by 1 in Florida as per fivethirtyeight. Another poll has Trump just 2 points behind in PA. To be frank, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida looks really really close. In addition, an article in fivethirtyeight says 30% Hispanics and Cuban Americans support Trump, 10% African-American voters support Trump and this has helped Trump survive the storm. I am at a loss at what is going on. I guess many Americans are either stupid or racists or tribal.

by Anonymousreply 12209/08/2020

R121, did you tell them they are Buying into Ridiculous racist lies?

by Anonymousreply 12309/08/2020

If he wins those states, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida, it's over.

by Anonymousreply 12409/08/2020

Florida is complex. The Cubans are STILL living on the loss of Cuba to communism. All that anyone has to do is scream “communist”. Same with Venezuelans. They just don’t get it...out Party or the people.

Biden and Harris better both get down here in person and sew this up!

by Anonymousreply 12509/08/2020

Joe and Kamala, get your butts off of Zoom and go to swing states and have big campaign events. I’m tired of Joe campaigning in Wilmington, Delaware

by Anonymousreply 12609/08/2020

Harris will be visiting Miami...tomorrow, its been scheduled for a few days already.

by Anonymousreply 12709/08/2020

The Republican Party of Florida (RPOF) posted its best fundraising report in nearly two years, with more than $5.6 million raised between April 1 and Aug. 13. The haul came in across 233 contributions with the average check weighing in at just over $24,000. RPOF’s total more than doubled that of the Florida Democratic Party, which raised $2.15 million over the same stretch.

FDP’s haul was spread across 195 contributions for an average give of about $11,000.

by Anonymousreply 12809/08/2020

. I don't get Cuban Americans. Trump likes North Korea style inauguration, likes the way Putin runs the country, is in love with dictators and they think Trump, another dictator-in-making, is the solution? Wake up, Cuban Americans.

Trump is a second coming of Fidel Castro. If Democrats cannot prove that, we have a problem. Harris does give some hope. She can speak. Obamas need to be there as well.

by Anonymousreply 12909/08/2020

Help me understand big campaign events in the age of Covid? Tell me how you map that out so that it doesn't come back to bite you in ass?

by Anonymousreply 13009/08/2020

Because people like you OP are such a turnoff

by Anonymousreply 13109/08/2020

This GQR (Dem firm) result in Florida (Biden+5) still shows some very meaningful narrowing among Hispanic voters--including non-Cuban Hispanics

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by Anonymousreply 13209/08/2020

It all goes back to education and being well-informed. The less educated you are the more susceptible to demagoguery from both sides of the political spectrum. Culture plays a role in promoting education instead of emphasis on religion/ god.

by Anonymousreply 13309/08/2020

I've been worried about BLM from day 1. I think we're seeing the effect in Florida. BLM hit a peak in support in May. Since then the support has gone down every day. Not even all AA support the movement.

I'm not sure how Biden turns this around. He needs to be strongly against the looters/rioters.

by Anonymousreply 13409/08/2020

Im cuban and I will write the main reasons why cubans vote republicans:

(1) anti communist politics is big business in miami. all cubans republican politicians get basically elected on basically this matter. they dont care about any kind of american issues, all they talk about is about cuba and that is how they get votes. besides, there are a lot of organizations and leaders that make a living with the millions of dollars they get from the goverment to free cuba. that american tax payer's money that they received to help cuban dissidents in cuba, they steal it. so they really dont want a free cuba at all, cuz they dont want to lose money.

(2) the republicans sell the idea that taughening the embargo will hurt the cuban goverment and the people will take the street and topple the goverment. they accuse the democrats of wanting to give money to the castros and thus support communism.

(3) inmorality, decadence and ungratefulness. cubans have no real morals. they enjoy all the social benefits they can get from democrats and the government while voting for republicans with total lack of guilt and shame.

(4) they truly believe that they are whites and believe that they are better than mexicans, and other latinos.they felt entittled to have all the benefits they had and took them for granted.while it is true that most cubans in miami are of european stock, there is a recent wave of inmigration of black/mulatos/ mestizos that have not yet experienced racism because they are scared of leaving in an all white area and afraid of being descriminated, so they remain in healeah and never go up north.

(5) highly ignorant third world people who associate republicans with capitalism,democracy, economic properity and civil liberties while democrats are not capitalists enough.

yes Im cuban, of 100% european ancestry, uber liberal, democrat,capitalist/ anticommunist and anti republican.

by Anonymousreply 13509/08/2020

Because it's a lie. And Cubans are not the only Hispanics.

by Anonymousreply 13609/08/2020

Trump's job approval in Florida is 48. It rarely exceeds 42, 43 in any national polling.

Just another punch to the gut reminder that this will be won or lost in a handful of swing states that Trump won before. And where he often outpolls the national.

Keep fighting!!

by Anonymousreply 13709/08/2020

Thank you r135. Also Spanish language media, Telemundo and Univision are controlled by Republican Cubans and others. They are as bad/worse than FOX news. It's one of the most underreported stories. For 8 years they bashed Obama and repeated every Republican talking point while NEVER asking a follow-up question, pure propaganda, week after week, year after year, takes a toll. They were right there with Benghazi/ Emails and IRS scandal and Rapido Furioso. Rubio and Roz-Leighton were ALWAYS available to bash Obama. Never once did they have to answer for any Trump scandal or crime.

When they have to criticize Trump they mention it quickly, like 15 seconds and sandwich the story between gory clickbait.

by Anonymousreply 13809/08/2020

R121 They really are stupid. Did you inform these dummies that the riots are happening while Trump is president? Riots typically happen when a Republican is in office. When the LA riots were happening, it was when Bush Sr. was president.

by Anonymousreply 13909/08/2020

R139, Democrats need to succinctly and potently make that case, but I haven’t seen it

by Anonymousreply 14009/08/2020

I’m not so big on trying really hard for FL.

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Why? We can’t afford not to fight

by Anonymousreply 14209/08/2020

The cable media played a big role in generating fear regarding the looting, arson, vandalism and related rioting. The media and politicians were slow in condemning it. The largely peaceful protests and marches were understood and generally accepted. But when the protests often got meshed with violence, a growing number of the population have soured on mass protests that have gone on and on. Not enough compartamentalizing was done While Trump has fostered discontent, he has exploited it politically.

by Anonymousreply 14309/08/2020

r135, if you are Cuban, then why would you refer to them as “they” instead of “we”? You gave yourself away, liar. You’re just promoting stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 14409/08/2020

Sometimes really irrational things occur and have immense effect. The riots and more violent protests are producing real fear of chaos, rational or not. Hispanics are not immune to that. Biden is not doing that well, fellas.

by Anonymousreply 14509/08/2020

Thanks for that, R135/R138.

Does Biden have any good surrogates who could help out?

by Anonymousreply 14609/08/2020

I wonder if President Obama will soon be like, what the hell, I’m gonna go out and start campaigning in swing states.

by Anonymousreply 14709/08/2020

My hope is that protests due down and there is no new incident. Maybe the assholes in Portland even take a break. The media must love the eyeballs the protests give them. Biden should also talk about Obamacare and economic issues. Everyone already knows Trump is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 14809/08/2020

Biden torched Trump today on the issue of violence and police.

Biden cleared up the common misconception by saying that he supports *funding* the police.

It's Donald Trump that wants to defund the police.

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by Anonymousreply 14909/08/2020

Could it be because they work and save, and they don't want to give it all to the government in taxes to fund deadbeats who don't work and save?

by Anonymousreply 15009/08/2020

Look at the comments under any Univision or Telemundo video on Black Lives Matter or unrest in cities. They aren't positive. Media commentators have talked none stop about how this stuff might hurt Biden with white suburbanites but it certainly hasn't been helpful with Latinos either.

As much as young Latinx activists scream about how Latinos and African Americans are part of one BIPOC community and are united in the struggle against systemic racism, a lot of American Latinos don't see it that way.

by Anonymousreply 15109/08/2020

R150, you are a selfish person who is exactly the type we think of when we think of Republicans

by Anonymousreply 15209/08/2020

in the article posted in r141 they mentioned Alex Otaola. This guy is a youtuber that I used to folliw until he found that republican politics in miami can be a very good business. otaola is an affeminate gay guy who enjoys making fun of other gays in his youtube channel in order to make straight people laugh about gays. this guy is extremely negative and unsufferable and is in a pro-trump crusade in which anyone who opposes trump is called a communist.

Again, Im cuban, for those of you here who claim that stereotyping, Im not. Cubans are ignorants, they live in an alternate reality, most cubans when they arrive to the first world they dont even know what a credit card is.Only in miami, you can find black and mestizos against the BLM and supporting the far right, of course, they are all cubans. yes, the cubans are the lowest of the lowest in culture, in politics etc. among hispanics. Im cuban by birth, but I have been out of cuba and living in the US since 1994 and I am 38. besides, my four grandparents were from spain, and they didnt like cuba that much, so my "cubanness" is not that strong.

by Anonymousreply 15309/08/2020

Good grief! I'm sick of the coddling of groups still on the fence or are shooting themselves in the foot by supporting Trump/republicunts. If the shit Trump has pulled since he's been in office (the caravan claim, attacking Dreamers, showing no concern for Puerto Ricans, caging Latino children at the border and likely trafficking them, dragging his feet on a COVID response in part because it'd mostly impact black and brown communities, etc.) isn't enough for the community to get over their hangups about Blacks and table intra-ethnic tribalism to vote for Biden in the upcoming election, they fucking deserve what Trump & the recunts have planned for them. And before someone calls me racist, this goes for blacks, Asians, First Nations, LGBT, female, and working-class/blue-collar/working poor voters who support Trump.

by Anonymousreply 15409/11/2020

"As much as young Latinx activists scream about how Latinos and African Americans are part of one BIPOC community and are united in the struggle against systemic racism, a lot of American Latinos don't see it that way."

Hopefully, the Democrats understand this and can broaden their appeal to the Latino/Latinx community. Otherwise, we're doomed.

by Anonymousreply 15509/11/2020

Latinx needs to die a quick and public death. Nothing communicates disdain for and ignorance of the Latino community like Latinx-ing them against their will.

by Anonymousreply 15609/11/2020

I agree

by Anonymousreply 15709/11/2020

R33, his record with small business owners is poor and only reliably bad. To anyone who is paying attention and voting their pocketbook or ledger, Trump is a loser.

by Anonymousreply 15809/11/2020

Dave Wasserman: A likely factor behind Trump's '16-'20 improvement w/ Hispanic voters: he's actually running a robust Spanish-language ad campaign this time, as opposed to "here's a taco bowl...I love Hispanics!"

by Anonymousreply 15909/11/2020

R150 's post means that the delporables are on DL, and getting very loud about it.

by Anonymousreply 16009/11/2020

Reality is a vast right-wing conspiracy.

Guard your hearts, gays, fight the temptation to impure thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 16109/11/2020

Thanks for the input. I've been wondering about this myself.

And now, for some good news on the other sideL

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by Anonymousreply 16209/11/2020

[quote]Hopefully, the Democrats understand this and can broaden their appeal to the Latino/Latinx community. Otherwise, we're doomed.

You can start this outreach by never calling them the fucking "Latinx community" ever again.

by Anonymousreply 16309/11/2020

My question was not “Why do any Latinos vote Republican?” It was “Why is Trump doing better now with Latinos than he did last time?”

Thanks for those who have tried to answer. Fuck you to those who declare me a troll for asking.

by Anonymousreply 16409/11/2020

What's wrong with the word Latinx? Cisgender went over so well.

by Anonymousreply 16509/11/2020

Just spitballing here -- but what if Mexicans, Cubans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, etc, DON'T consider themselves POC first and foremost? What if -- farfetched, but just putting it out there -- what if they don't love black people to death and consider them their brothers in arms and comrades in the struggle? Might they be tired of hearing that BLM, BLM, BLM, BLM, BLM, all day and night if that were the case? Might they wonder whether Mexican lives matter? Whether Dominican lives matter?

Oh, it's silly, I know. BIPOC know they're BIPOC, are proud to identify as such, hate their own national and cultural identity, and consider everyone except white people to be their blood brothers. Carry on! Perhaps one day we'll get to the bottom of this mystery.

by Anonymousreply 16609/11/2020

Dominicans are mostly black, mini Puerto Ricans are too.

by Anonymousreply 16709/11/2020

Mini Puerto Ricans are too short to reach up in the voting booth, so they don't count.

by Anonymousreply 16809/11/2020

Many second generation hispanics I knew hated "wetbacks" and wanted them deported. From the "Pull up the ladder behind you" dept. of compassion.

by Anonymousreply 16909/11/2020

NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll of Latino voters shows Biden leading Trump by a margin of 62% to 26%.

This is a bit narrower than Clinton’s 66-28% margin with Latinos (per Pew’s study of ‘16 validated voters).

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by Anonymousreply 17009/20/2020

Yep, R156.

by Anonymousreply 17109/20/2020

What's wrong with the word Latinx

It’s not a word.

But Latin us.

So as far as I’m concerned they’re Latin, which means of Spanish or Indian descent (Central America & Caribbean). Irish aren't Irishx , French arent Frenchx. Latin.

by Anonymousreply 17209/20/2020

We'll see where the undecideds go, it might end up closer to Hillarys numbers when the voting happens.

by Anonymousreply 17309/20/2020

Because there are a lot of backwards, retarded Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 17409/20/2020

This is why I am being tired of allegations of so-called racism when calling out homophobia from people of color.

by Anonymousreply 17509/20/2020

Maybe they see things like this and figure poor Joe won't last long, but they don't want Kamala as his replacement

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by Anonymousreply 17609/20/2020

R176 Sounds doctored. Fake.

by Anonymousreply 17709/20/2020

[quote] Many second generation hispanics I knew hated "wetbacks" and wanted them deported. From the "Pull up the ladder behind you" dept. of compassion.

No, they want the ladder to remain in place, for those who climb it legally.

by Anonymousreply 17809/20/2020

I don't know about Latinx in general, but Mexicans have a heavy heritage. Read Octavio Paz's Labyrinth of Solitude.

by Anonymousreply 17909/20/2020

All criticism of Democrats is fake news. Believe what mainstream media tells you and NEVER, EVER, EVER QUESTION IT!

by Anonymousreply 18009/20/2020

Agree

by Anonymousreply 18109/21/2020

r180 I bet you are one of those gay republican hypocrites who instead of living in conservative republican cities would rather live in liberal democratic gay neighborhoods among gay liberals who vote for democratic politicians who support gay people and businesses.

really, you gay republicans are disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 18209/21/2020

As far as I’m concerned, refusing to vote for Biden makes you complicit in first-degree murder. When Biden is president, I want to see any at all opposition to him and his party criminalized brutally. I want every single act of police brutality that Black people have been unfairly subjected to since time immemorial subjected to the deplorables because unlike Black people, they have actually done something to deserve it. I want to see Black cops choking white racists to death for at least as long as those white cops did to George Floyd.

And if Kamala Harris wants slavery back so that she can be given reparations for what her grandfather had illegally taken away from him, then she can fucking have it. Blacks should be allowed to own white slaves. That is the only way you are even going to begin to make reparations for slavery.

by Anonymousreply 18309/21/2020

Latinos love a strong, macho alpha male. It's part of their culture.

by Anonymousreply 18409/21/2020

[quote]A majority of young Latinos support Biden over Trump, according to new survey

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I know quite a few Latinos who are of 100% European Spanish heritage, and they're quite prejudiced against the mixed-race Mestizo Latinos, which is what most illegal immigrants are. They don't feel any kind of connection with them, and support Trump's immigration policies.

by Anonymousreply 18609/21/2020

And that orange, fat, disgusting piece of shit trump isn’t one, R184

None of the repigs are anything that those words describe.

by Anonymousreply 18709/21/2020

[quote] When Biden is president, I want to see any at all opposition to him and his party criminalized brutally.

That’s because you’re a fascist.

by Anonymousreply 18809/21/2020

[quote] And if Kamala Harris wants slavery back so that she can be given reparations for what her grandfather had illegally taken away from him

Where was her grandfather?

by Anonymousreply 18909/21/2020

Thanks, R185.

by Anonymousreply 19009/21/2020

Easy. He ain't. Pundits tried to turn one outlier poll into a narrative.

by Anonymousreply 19109/21/2020

538 aggregates polls.

by Anonymousreply 19209/22/2020

No, R188, you are and you're projecting it onto me because that's what fascists do, you fascist.

All opposition to Dems is by definition fascist. If you do not vote for Biden, then you should not fucking be allowed to vote.

by Anonymousreply 19309/22/2020

Not feeling a connection with them does not mean they are prejudiced against them, R186.

by Anonymousreply 19409/22/2020

So the Hispanic voters in the ABC/WaPo- 68-29.

Clinton 2016 was 66-28. Obama 2012 was 71-27, Obama 2008 was 67-31.

by Anonymousreply 19509/26/2020

stockholm syndrome. the irrational way the mind deals with fear: if they support trump publicly that they won't get deported, get citizenship faster, get relief/social services programs etc. These people are scared.

by Anonymousreply 19609/26/2020

At today’s Nicaraguans-with-Biden caravan in Miami (led by @ananavarro), this sign is proving specially popular.

“100% anti-communist, 100% anti-racist, 100% anti-fascist, 100% with Biden”

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by Anonymousreply 19709/26/2020

Another Latino here who hates “Latinx.”

And it’s only the Cubans who seem to favor the GOP.

And they’re a minority within a minority with a bloated sense of self-importance because they live in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 19809/26/2020

Well, it can't be anything wrong with the party.

What latinx in their right mind would not vote Dem? They're all locos and whatever the Puerto Divan version of a coon is.

by Anonymousreply 19909/26/2020

Democrats are never wrong. Never have been, never will be. Especially not about slavery.

by Anonymousreply 20009/26/2020

Is Nicaragua part of America? Can they vote?

by Anonymousreply 20109/26/2020

Nicaragua is part of the Ottoman Empire.

by Anonymousreply 20209/26/2020

[quote] straight white liberal males are more progressive than the people whose rights they champion.

Whatever bolsters their reputation, right?

by Anonymousreply 20309/26/2020

Of the Latino voters who have already cast a ballot in the 2020 general election, 8.2% are voting in their first election, ever. Compare that to 3.7% of white, non-Hispanic voters.

by Anonymousreply 20410/07/2020

No, R203, just honest. We did not champion the civil rights of minorities just so they could stab us in the back by voting against their best interests.

by Anonymousreply 20510/07/2020

They contribute to racism while claiming to be victims of it. This is how.

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by Anonymousreply 20610/07/2020

“Wypipo” means you, too. If you don’t want your minority card revoked, then vote for Democrats and nobody else.

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by Anonymousreply 20710/07/2020

I was out shopping this past weekend and I saw a Latino wearing a Trump 2020 mask....I couldn't believe my eyes

by Anonymousreply 20810/07/2020

No, R188, that’s because all opposition to Democrats is fascism. If you vote for any other candidate then Mighty Joe Biden, you are a fascist. And do you know what we do with fascists? Mussolini, the original fascist, sure does!

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by Anonymousreply 20910/07/2020

You haven’t been paying attention r208

by Anonymousreply 21010/07/2020

misangyny

by Anonymousreply 21110/07/2020

Plump is going to try to turn all the legal immigrants who came here legally into criminals if he wins again

Remind legal immigrants on social media with examples like this:

“How the Trump administration is turning legal immigrants into undocumented ones”

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by Anonymousreply 21210/07/2020

So the anti-Latino trolls are bumping this thread full of misinformation because the other thread paints Latinos in a better light ? How transparent.

It wounds the trolls to [bold]know[/bold] Democrats cannot win congress /WH without the Latin vote. [bold]Get used to it[/bold].

by Anonymousreply 21310/07/2020

A recent poll found 56 percent of recent Cuban immigrants planned to vote for Trump, up from 22 percent four years ago.

A number of factors are fueling this shift but many are crediting a new crop of right-wing personalities—in particular, this guy.

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by Anonymousreply 21410/08/2020

Cubans are assholes.

by Anonymousreply 21510/08/2020

[quote] A recent poll found 56 percent of recent Cuban immigrants planned to vote for Trump, up from 22 percent four years ago. A number of factors are fueling this shift but many are crediting a new crop of right-wing personalities—in particular, this guy

Cuban Americans are the rare bloc of Hispanic voters who truly lean Republican; in fact, they outright backed Trump in 2016. Trump is estimated to have won between 50 percent and 58 percent of Florida’s Cuban American vote in 2016, and this group has been even more Republican in past presidential elections . . .

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by Anonymousreply 21610/08/2020

Cubans believe they are superior to all of the other Latin American ethnic groups and really look down on them. They say things about Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Central Americans etc. that white racists would also say.

by Anonymousreply 21710/08/2020

Fuck the Cubans.

Worthless scum who were given the green light to come here for decades.

Then have the balls to look down on others trying to get here for a better life.

Again, fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 21810/09/2020

I did.

by Anonymousreply 21910/09/2020

Becoz Latinos are not very clever, Joo know.

by Anonymousreply 22010/09/2020

cubans are the inmigrants who have benefited the most from democrat policies. it is high time that democrats stop bringing cubans and venezuelans to the united states. im cuban, and i do not want these people in these country, only gay cubans should be allowed to stay in the country. right now cubans are being jailed and deportated, except those who can demostrate persecussion or threat to their lifes. many gay cubans are being allowed to stay and now there are some straights who are faking to be gay so ghey can get asylum. that is not new, when fidel castro expeled the gays in the eighties, many straights pretended to be gay so that they would be allow to get on a ship bound to miami.

the guy shown by r124 is alex otaola, a gay guy that has a youtube chanel with pro trump propaganda, and all sorts of anti democrat lies.

when biden came to miami ge promised that he was going to bring more cubans and venezuelans to the states. when that happens im planing to start sending letters to democrats who support these pro cuban inmigration policies telling them that us, the mayority of democrat voters, do not want these people anymore in this country.

by Anonymousreply 22110/11/2020

As R195 notes, just look at the polls. In 2016, per the exit polls, Latino voters backed Clinton 66% to 28%. In the most recent Fox News poll from 10/3 to 10/6, 69% of of Latino voters support Biden and 26% support Trump.

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Sorry, I meant to post this link.

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by Anonymousreply 22310/11/2020

turnout in 2020 by Latinos 18-29 has increased 3x what it was at this point in 2016! Thanks to

@NextGenAmerica

by Anonymousreply 22410/21/2020

[quote] turnout in 2020 by Latinos 18-29 has increased 3x what it was at this point in 2016!

We'll see. They've missed before

by Anonymousreply 22510/21/2020

When you give someone a free lunch and a timeshare, you get their ear.

by Anonymousreply 22610/21/2020

The Latino gender gap is bigger than the gender gap among Black, Asian or white voters. About 40% of Latino men support Republicans, which is helping the party in Florida, Texas, Arizona, California and elsewhere

by Anonymousreply 22710/22/2020

Correct.

by Anonymousreply 22810/22/2020

Latinos liked Kellyanne.

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by Anonymousreply 22910/22/2020

I love Latinos. They are harder working than most Americans and they actually try to assimilate to American culture. Nobody celebrate 4th of July like latinos.

by Anonymousreply 23010/22/2020

New link?

by Anonymousreply 23110/23/2020

They are doing this to try and appear white. If you hold any conservative beliefs on any issue, then that makes you white. Hell, it makes you more white than actual white people, especially since white liberals are the true Black people. White liberals know what’s best for you so you better vote like we do or don’t come crying to us when Donald Trump deports you.

by Anonymousreply 23210/23/2020

[quote] They are doing this to try and appear white

That makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 23310/23/2020

Geez, white people can't win. We appreciate black style or enjoy the music - appropriation. We try to help a situation or use our "privilege" to help a someone out - "white savior". Can we just ignore each other and call it a day?

by Anonymousreply 23410/23/2020

Here's the summary from the Times article:

"Among Latina women, Biden leads Trump by a whopping 34 percentage points (59 percent to 25 percent). Among Latino men, Biden’s lead is only eight points (47 percent to 39 percent). These patterns are similar across both Latino college graduates and those without a degree.

"Stephanie Valencia, the president of Equis Research, which focuses on Latino voters, told us that its polls suggest that Latino men may have even moved slightly toward Trump this year. If so, they are the only large demographic group to do so."

"… what has alienated so many older, female and suburban voters is a key part of Mr. Trump’s appeal to these men, interviews with dozens of Mexican-American men supporting Mr. Trump shows: To them, the macho allure of Mr. Trump is undeniable. He is forceful, wealthy and, most important, unapologetic. In a world where at any moment someone might be attacked for saying the wrong thing, he says the wrong thing all the time and does not bother with self-flagellation."

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If those numbers hold up, and the undecideds split, then Biden would win the Hispanic vote nationally by something like 22 points, roughly 60-38, given a couple of points to third party. Hillary won Hispanics by 38 points, 66-28. That's the reason a state like Florida is tighter than it otherwise should be, given so many areas that have shifted toward Biden.

This survey is interesting because Hispanics always tilt unusually toward a presidential incumbent, but I had never seen it broken down by gender. Maybe it has always been the males who are accounting for the bulk of that change.

by Anonymousreply 23510/23/2020

NEW @UnivisionNews poll of Latino voters:

NATIONAL: Biden 67% Trump 26% TEXAS: Biden 66% Trump 28% FLORIDA: Biden 57% Trump 37% ARIZONA: Biden 66% Trump 26% PENNSYLVANIA Biden 67% Trump 25%

Graphic below is new state poll in each state:

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by Anonymousreply 23610/28/2020

Has Gloria Estefan commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 23710/28/2020

Chair of Texas Dem Party tells @danielmarans that no door knocking or in-person campaigning was the “single most important problem we had” reaching Latinos “It’s very hard to do effective campaigning with Latinos unless you’re talking to them in person”

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by Anonymousreply 23811/06/2020

Biden didn’t even need Florida or Texas, the only two stares where this is relevant.

by Anonymousreply 23911/06/2020

*states

by Anonymousreply 24011/06/2020

Why it’s malpractice to conflate the working class with the *white* working class:

Trump won whites w/out a degree by 29 pts.

Biden won non-whites w/out a degree by 46 pts.

Trump won all voters w/ household incomes over $100k by 11, while Biden won those under $100k by 13.

by Anonymousreply 24111/07/2020

DEMS NEED TO REACH OUT TO LATINOS BETTER OR WE’LL LOSE FUTURE ELECTIONS!

Florida Latinos- Trump got 44% in 2020 33-35% in 2016

“55% of Florida's Cuban vote went to Trump, according to NBC News exit polls, 30% of Puerto Ricans & 48% of other Latinos.”

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by Anonymousreply 24211/07/2020

[quote] DEMS NEED TO REACH OUT TO LATINOS BETTER OR WE’LL LOSE FUTURE ELECTIONS!

Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote. Which is what Republicans normally get and which means 70% of Latinos continue to support Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 24311/09/2020

R23 nailed it.

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by Anonymousreply 24411/09/2020

Those lying pony soldiers aren't real Latinos. I didn't even see even one sombrero.

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by Anonymousreply 24511/09/2020

(CNN)President Donald Trump picked up more Latino voters in several key battleground states than he won in 2016, according to results of a nationwide CNN exit poll.

The President captured almost half of the group in Florida, up from 35% in 2016. Former Vice President Joe Biden earned just over half of the Latino vote in the state, compared to 62% who supported Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton four years ago. Biden also lost support among Latino voters in Georgia and Ohio, important states to capturing the White House. The former vice president was up only about 16 percentage points in Georgia and about 24 points in Ohio, compared to Clinton's margin of 40 percentage points and 41 points in Georgia and Ohio, respectively. However, in preliminary results from Arizona, Latino voters favored Biden by nearly 2 to 1, with Trump barely making a dent. Clinton also won the Latino vote there handily in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 24611/09/2020

Republicans showed strength with Hispanic Texans

Biden won the Hispanic vote by 19 points this year, according to the exits, but that’s down from Hillary Clinton’s 27-point margin in 2016. A number of heavily Hispanic counties in the Rio Grande Valley shifted toward Trump: Zapata County, to name one, broke for Trump by 5 points with most of the expected vote counted after Clinton won it by more than 30 points in 2016. The president’s share of the county’s vote jumped from 33 percent to 52 percent in his reelection bid.

by Anonymousreply 24711/09/2020

Victoria DeFrancesco Soto, a politics professor at the University of Texas, told the Texas Tribune that Biden underperformed with Hispanics because he wasn’t as well known to them as Hillary Clinton and the Covid-19 pandemic limited his campaign’s voter outreach.

The Trump campaign, on the other hand, pushed ahead with its ground game, despite the public health crisis, and it paid off. From the Tribune’s Emma Platoff:

“The Valley is old school, and you need that grassroots mobilization,” she said. “And there wasn’t grassroots work, at least on the Democratic side, because of the pandemic. And arguably the GOP did have at least a bit more grassroots work because they had a different vision of public health.”

“That to me explains the Biden underperformance: He really wasn’t known, and then he didn’t have the time to make it up,” she added.

Trump, meanwhile, launched a Latino outreach initiative for his 2020 bid, she noted.

Republicans had hoped their willingness to knock on doors during the pandemic would give them an edge over Democrats, some of whom leaned on remote campaigning methods. Some Democratic strategists had been warning for weeks that Democrats were struggling with Hispanic voters in places like Texas. Chuck Rocha, who had focused on those voters for Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, told Vox’s Nicole Narea in early September that outside Democratic groups were not focusing enough on the Latino vote.

by Anonymousreply 24811/09/2020

Four months, people were sounding alarm that Democrats were getting their asses handed to them by Republicans who were registering lots of new voters and going door to door to galvanize people to vote for them, while Democrats suspended such critical campaign activity.

by Anonymousreply 24911/09/2020

One of the biggest surprises of the 2020 election was Zapata County, TX. Trump became the first R pres. nominee since 1920 to carry this 94% Hispanic county. He got 2,032 votes there, double his 1,029 in 2016. Not a huge county, but Zapata was emblematic of his gains in the RGV.

by Anonymousreply 25011/09/2020

“Are we 100% certain this doesn’t soften the ground enough so that what seems almost unthinkable becomes thinkable? Are we 100% certain the state legislature in, say, Georgia, won’t start considering things that now seem outside the realm of the possible?”

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by Anonymousreply 25111/09/2020

Yet:

Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote. Which is what Republicans normally get and which means 70% of Latinos continue to support Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 25211/09/2020

MIAMI — From the time President Donald Trump took office, he focused on the Latino vote in Florida, and according to figures coming out of the state, it paid off on Election Day, especially in Miami-Dade County, the most populous in the state.

Around 55 percent of Florida's Cuban-American vote went to Trump, according to NBC News exit polls, while 30 percent of Puerto Ricans and 48 percent of "other Latinos" backed Trump. Trump won the coveted battleground state with its 29 electoral votes.

Trump drastically improved his support in Miami-Dade County, going from 333,999 votes in 2016 to at least 529,16 votes this year. Biden, however, wasn’t able to grow Democratic support in the county. Clinton got 624,146 votes there in 2016 and with 95 percent of the vote tallied, Biden had 613,086.

Trump's popularity also seems to have affected down-ballot races, with two House Democrats from South Florida losing in early ballot returns to Republican challengers:Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, the first South American-born member of Congress, was trailing Carlos Gimenez, the Miami-Dade County mayor, and Rep. Donna Shalala was trailing TV host and commentator Maria Elvira Salazar.

by Anonymousreply 25311/09/2020

Why Rio Grande Valley Latinos turned toward Trump

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by Anonymousreply 25411/10/2020

A traditionally Democratic county in Texas voted for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in nearly 100 years.

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by Anonymousreply 25511/12/2020

"Disinformation has been weaponized to poach on immigrant fears so that, like their white working-class counterparts, some Asian and Latino immigrants are voting against their economic interests," writes @cathyparkhong

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by Anonymousreply 25612/20/2020

Slandering Joe Biden as a socialist or communist, when he's no more socialist than any Republican.

Simple-minded simpletons mistaking the phony rantings of a lunatic as "machismo."

by Anonymousreply 25712/20/2020

More Latinos will be flocking to the Republican Party when they become fed up with the exclusive attention being paid to blacks as being the only minority that counts.

by Anonymousreply 25812/20/2020

[quote] More Latinos will be flocking to the Republican Party when they become fed up with the exclusive attention being paid to blacks as being the only minority that counts.

1. Latino is not a race.

2. The non Hispanic whites that make up the majority of the country prevent the needs of minorities from being addressed. There is no exclusive focus on black Americans.

3. Trump received around 30% of the Latino vote in both 2016 and 2020. Which is normal for Republicans.

4. White supremacists continue to attempt to pit minorities against each other.

by Anonymousreply 25912/23/2020

Trump’s gains w. Latino voters can’t be reduced to bumper sticker stereotypes like “machismo” or Florida/Texas dynamics .. He saw a baseline shift that cut across a cross section of demos/geographies, incl. women, younger foreign-born, NJ, Wisc., Nev.

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by Anonymousreply 26004/02/2021

Don’t know if this has already been addressed, but the answer may be as simple as it’s very hard to defeat a president running for re-election. Trump was the president since Hoover (1932) to be denied a 2nd term when he had no significant primary opposition and/or a strong 3rd party candidate in the general election. Add the stimulus checks sent out on the eve of the election, & it’s not so hard to see why Trump’s numbers improved in certain communities.

by Anonymousreply 26104/02/2021

Here's the shift between the 2016 Ohio Senate Race (R +20) and the 2020 Presidential Election (R +8). Despite the overall blue shift from 2016, Biden still did much worse in Appalachia and Cleveland's Hispanic precincts. The latter should be particularly concerning for Dems.

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