Elizabeth Holmes trial (Theranos scam) is now pushed into 2021.

She’s white, she’s rich, she’s connected to the US govt & the US military. She’s not some skiv like us. This is the new normal. Rich white people get arrested but they will walk or pay a fine or get pardoned. That’s it. It’s been going on for years & nobody did anything about it.

In the 70s, white men in suits would’ve been picketing courthouses where people like her were being indicted, demanding the maximum sentence for Big Business execs.

It’s not the 70s anymore. Post WW2 prosperity is gone. The capitalist hogs are fully back in charge, stealing & hiding their loot offshore, living large & proudly.

It’s not like a terrorist group could sneak up on their houses one night & do a Manson family on them. They have locked gates with private security Guards carrying automatic weapons & grenades. They have cameras, they have face recognition technology, there are floodlights, there are overhead drones, there are private armies, there are forensics, there are companies that will make deep fake videos to pin it on someone who didn’t do it (if perhaps a crime like that could ever be carried out) just like there was Cambridge Analytica who stole an election. The courts are packed with right wingers.

This isn’t the Russian Revolution. It’s not a bunch of Cossacks with WW1 rifles.

They can find anybody nowadays. They can watch satellite footage & traffic camera footage from before, during & after the crime to trace vehicles.

We laughed at militias but we’re not laughing now. Oregon is full of rightwing militias and they will rise up & join those rightwing border guards & prison guards who’ve been brought up to hate dark skinned people & white democrats from the minute they were born.

There's really nothing in the article you linked to suggest that she will walk, OP.

The longer her case is put off, the more people forget about her. She’s old news. There’s a possibility that Americans are so dumb that any jury who is picked for her case will think she’s been convicted already & they’re just on a jury for some extra charge the DA tacked on. “Oh yeah, I remember. She was from a few years ago. She was guilty of a crime. I remember seeing her going into court on the news. She’s already being punished.”

The media jumps from one thing to another. Russian bounties, virus, protests, Trump’s latest tweet, AOC is a “lying bitch,” Kanye for president, superhero/supervillain movies, newest video game, latest Oreo flavor, North Korea, shutdown, reopening. The average American is poorly educated with the attention span of a gnat.

The longer her case is postponed, the less the public cares about her crimes & think she was already convicted.

Mark my words. She will probably do everything she can to get pregnant (even IVF if necessary ) before the trial starts. She'll make sure to cut a tragic figure cupping her bump for the cameras. Americans don't put rich blonde white mommies in jail. Poor white and minority mothers, yes. But not the ones from Holmes class. I would be shocked if she did more than 3 months.

There were many big time investors who lost money to her scam, and I don't think they will forget.

?Documents unsealed in a lawsuit brought against Theranos reveal a number of the high profile investors who had a stake in the nearly worthless start-up: The Waltons, founders of Walmart, with $150 million; Rupert Murdoch, with $125 million; and the DeVos family, including Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, with $100 "...

[quote] There’s a possibility that Americans are so dumb that any jury who is picked for her case will think she’s been convicted already & they’re just on a jury for some extra charge the DA tacked on.

Right, because the judge and attorneys don't tell the jury what the defendant is charged with or anything.

Murdoch? DeVos? Maybe we should give her a medal instead.

[quote] Right, because the judge and attorneys don't tell the jury what the defendant is charged with or anything.

You think they’re going to understand it? Ha! You can’t even get people to wear a mask to protect their own lives or the lives of their families. They can’t understand they can transmit disease to their parents or grandparents.

Miss Crazy Eyes

R5. Ah, such a pity that such saints as the Waltons, Murdoch, and Betsy DeVos lost over a hundred million dollars each.

[quote] You think they’re going to understand it?

Dipshit, the entire trial is about presenting and explaining the charges and the evidence that demonstrates whether or not the defendant is guilty of the charges. Yes, some jurors will understand it all better than others but none of them will sit through the trial thinking “huh, I think she was already convicted and we’re just dealing with some random tacked-on charge.”

Any relation to John and HH?

The wall decals with inspirational quotes decorating the walls of Theranos should have been the first definite sign she is a fraud.

The real hero of the Theranos scam story is George Schultz' grandson who blew the whistle on Elizabeth Holmes and his granddad cut him out of his life. The kid saved countless lives by exposing the fraud.

Maybe she'll pass herself away.

R15 ...if she relies on her own bogus test and then later finds out that she's terminal and it's too late.

I don’t want to see Kate McKinnon in her TV adaptation. I think Jennifer Lawrence’s movie may be better, but she has trouble getting her vanity projects off the ground - there’s squat on her Anna Deveney project, a Spielberg war movie, East of Eden...

R17 I'm so tired and I hope I am misunderstanding your post. Don't tell me that there's a remake of East of Eden in the works. Lord have mercy! NO! A million times NO!!!

Jennifer Lawrence was trying to get it off the ground with Gary Ross and (I think) Ron Howard

R19 The Theranos story or a East of Eden remake?

There were many big time investors who lost money to her scam, and I don't think they will forget.

R5 Their investment was just a big tax write off. They don't care what happens now, in fact they probably hope it all just goes away so they aren't dragged into it.

If you still haven't heard the tale this podcast was a rather enjoyable listen.

She’s not going to trial. She’ll delay & delay for years & then take a plea.

How can you delay and delay for years?

What about her failed sugar daddy Sunny?

I had the trial marked on my calendar for Aug 4 at 9am. Of course, it would be postponed.

This kind of case has reams of documents an, Covid or not, it naturally would haven been postponed. You can't deny motions to continue cases when there is good cause like the defense needs more time to prepare.

And, yes, I also think she will eventually take a plea.

Yes, taking a plea is what a normal person would do, anyway. She seems so arrogant and weirdly convinced of her own bullshit that I wonder if she'll insist on going to trial because she assumes she can persuade a jury of her innocence the way she persuaded her investors she had a real product.

All of her big-time board members will be working hard to encourage her to plead out so they aren't dragged into this. They've got the muscle to carve out a sweet plea deal for her with the DA. I'm hoping R26 is correct and she will arrogantly choose to go to trial because that will force Kissinger, Schultz, Mattis and the rest of her elite board to relive their participation in this scam.

Pushed back again! To March 9, 2021

They’re going to let her go because she’s been found to sterilize people from Rona with her eyes. Her hush-hush probation deal will require she be on hand to stare at the recently infected rich and powerful.

The treatment is occasionally fatal but everything in life has its risks.

She will never see the inside of a jail.

[quote]She'll walk away free and clear, her board members (Schultz, Kissinger, Mattis, Nunn, etc) won't have to testify or account for their $100,000+ annual payouts.

All of those ex-politicos AND Standford fellowship members (Schultz, Kissinger, Mattis, Nunn) will never allow this to go to trial. It would be too embarrassing to them personally and to the school.

Sanpaku eyes.

[quote]I don’t want to see Kate McKinnon in her TV adaptation. I think Jennifer Lawrence’s movie may be better, but she has trouble getting her vanity projects off the ground - there’s squat on her Anna Deveney project, a Spielberg war movie, East of Eden...

I think the Hulu mini-series with Kate McKinnon and the JLaw movie will probably both be shelved due to the financial issues related to covid-19.

She's now going to use the 'mental illness' defense. Everyone gets off free.

R33, I think she'll probably say she was being bullied by her boyfriend at the time, Sunny Balwani. He worked at Theranos, too, and held some high position. IIRC, he was living with Holmes during her "reign." Apparently, Balwani was a bully to some of the employees.

Looks like she put on some weight.

[quote] All of those ex-politicos AND Standford fellowship members (Schultz, Kissinger, Mattis, Nunn) will never allow this to go to trial. It would be too embarrassing to them personally and to the school.

What? The case is already charged and set for trial. It's not up to Schultz, etc., to decide whether the case goes to trial. The case either goes to trial or Holmes accepts a plea offer. I guess it's possible that the case could be completely dismissed before trial, but, again, that's not up to Schultz, etc.

Balwani was not at the company in the early years and even after he invested heavily in it and thus saving her, there was some time before he held a formal position in the company. I think it's the other way around and that Holmes controlled Balwani. That's her thing - controlling people and conning them. Her con days started when she was very young. Balwani didn't make her that way. If anyone helped her become what she was it was her parents for feeding her and enabling her fantasies to the extent they did.

This argument - if it is actually in anyway believable - would probably only work in mitigating her sentence rather than her actual guilt.

Her father was an Enron exec. I think that says it all.

If she got pregnant before her trial the judge would see right through that. Someone as dangerously crazy as Elizabeth Holmes should not have kids.

George Schulz’s grandson is a hot nerd. Very good looking guy.

R36 Tyler is a hottie! I heard he has a new book so we may be seeing more of him...

I have to think the prosecutors are chuckling at the spectacle of Holmes claiming to be so mentally ill with diminished capacity that she could no longer differentiate between right and wrong.

There is too much of a paper - and video - trail for Holmes to pull off the insanity defense.

The funny thing about her absurd, forced fake voice is that it gives her a double chin even though she's skinny.

Try it yourself: make your voice deep and feel under your chin, you should feel a muscle pushing the chin fat forward.

I'm legitimately creeped out by her and Mark Zuckerberg. They're like aliens from outer space imitating humans.

Quite the board of directors.

Riley Bechtel (chairman of the board and former CEO at Bechtel Group)

Bill Frist (former U.S. Senator and heart-transplant surgeon)

Henry Kissinger (former U.S. Secretary of State)

Richard Kovacevich (former Wells Fargo Chairman and CEO)

James Mattis (General, USMC)

Sam Nunn (former U.S. Senator)

William Perry (former U.S. Secretary of Defense)

Channing Robertson, chemical-engineering professor at Stanford

Gary Roughead (Admiral, USN, retired)

George P. Shultz (Former U.S. Secretary of State)

So is she officially married to that young dude?

This will never go to trial. She’ll plead out & then after 3 months in prison the plea will be dismissed on a technicality. She’s while. She’s rich. She’s blonde. She’s connected. Her investors want this to go away. In exchange for spending 90 days in jail she’ll agree never to write a book detailing what assholes her victims are.

Her attorney is claiming the jury will be subject to 'class prejudice' if her lifestyle is brought into question during the upcoming trial.

Does she have "man hands" to go along with her manly voice?

It's not at all uncommon for court dates and trials to postpone for months, even years. It's not because she's "rich" and getting away with everything. The court process is slow and tedious for everyone.

R45 Not for high profile cases, i.e. George Floyd/Chauvin or Michael Cohen, Roger Stone. Nope, it's because she's rich and her trial is going to drag a lot of historically significant white guys into the fray -- Kissinger, Mattis, etc.

She didn't have a cool deep voice. She didn't sound like Lauren Bacall or Scarlett Johansson. She sounded like a robot doing the impression of a mouth-breathing footballer.

Her voice was so forced and phony, I don't understand how she wasn't called out on it.

Rich white female privilege. She'll just keep having babies to push the trial date.

Why yes a woman does live there if you could call her a woman. She is a whore, officer!

Latest on Elizabeth's recent court appearance:

[quote]Last week at a virtual hearing, she pushed to keep a huge database of information protected from the government. Before that, she claimed to have made $100 million in revenue in 2014, when it was really $100,000. These things, among others, are hands-down inexcusable.

I am just a normal girl and an innocent Entrepreneur.

R52 Whew! Look at those Sanpaku eyes! That, plus her creepy fake low voice make me shiver. How did she round up that board of directors? Are old white men so desperate for female attention?

R53 Do you think pussy would have power in her position? I know that she dated some Pakistani guy called Sunny who invested in Theranos in its earliest stage, but her being able to get so many investors and some prominent ones like that AmWay witch, Kissinger down the line? She definitely had some voodoo.

R54, not just an investor, he ran Theranos with her.

R54 She definitely had some working pheromones to attract that crowd of power players.

I hate those kind of blue eyes. They are freakishly big looking and vacant. Sort of like an low IQ person.

She sold all those old men the modern day equivalent of "I can spin straw into gold", with nary a one asking for any proof other than her word.

That takes some steel nerve most do not possess.

Now her attorney is questioning if jurors will be swayed by the reputations of some of the high profile witnesses. Also, because of Holmes' baby, breaks will be requested every 2 hours and all proceedings must end at 2:00pm.

She's not going to face any punishment. This is America. Blonde, rich, and white don't have to worry about the law. Like that Grossman woman in LA who ran over those boys in her Mercedes: zero consequences.

I heard she’s using some weird alias, and has gone full on flower power child, wearing deconstructed hippie garb, as opposed to her black turtleneck, stan tribute to Steve Jobs.

Also, her new BF is allegedly HOT & much younger.

Any truth to this?

I dislike this bitch intensely, because I promise you, she is not sorry, remorseful, and believes she did nothing wrong.

Sociopath.

[Quote] —good god, the stupidity in here

R6 agreed. But it is dispiriting to see so many in here are broken in spirit and have no fight in them any more - presented as wisdom, experience, or healthy skepticism.

Maybe it is simply because they have little to look forward to anymore. Who knows, one day I may be one of them....

[quote]I hate those kind of blue eyes. They are freakishly big looking and vacant. Sort of like an low IQ person.

R57 They are called Sanpaku Eyes and, yes, they are creepy.

Looks like the trial is starting this week. Can't wait to hear the testimony from her 'board members'.

John Carreyrou has a new podcast covering the trial.

R65 Thanks, can't wait to listen.

Is Holmes autistic?