If you can't beat Trump, you might as well join him
BREAKING Van Jones Crosses Dark Side - He Working For Trump!
|by Anonymous||reply 163||10 hours ago|
[quote] “It’s not the racist white person who’s in the Ku Klux Klan that we have to worry about,” Jones said on CNN’s New Day. “It’s the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in Central Park… But the minute she sees a Black man, who she does not respect, or has a slight thought against, she weaponized race like she had been trained by the Aryan Nation.”"
White liberals are (god, I fucking hate this word) "problematic" when it comes to racicsm but to say they are more of threat than the Trump supporters who want to blatantly ignore socially injustice or oppress anyone who isn't white? Stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||Last Sunday at 5:31 PM|
Was Van Jones always this shitty? I used to find him really likeable. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention as much as I should have.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||Last Sunday at 5:33 PM|
It sounds like his brain has melted
[quote] Barely a week later, Jones effusively praised a moment in Trump’s first State of the Union address when he led a lengthy standing ovation for the widow of Navy SEAL Ryan Owens—who was killed in a botched and ill-planned military adventure in Yemen (a failure for which Trump had typically blamed Barack Obama).
[quote] “He became president of the United States in that moment. Period,” Jones claimed. “[T]hat was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics. Period…For people who had been hoping that he would become unifying, hoping that he might find some way to become presidential, they should be happy with that moment.” (In an interview last year with The Daily Beast’s Marlow Stern, Jones declared defiantly that he remains “proud” of that wildly hyperbolic and hardly prophetic assessment.)
|by Anonymous||reply 3||Last Sunday at 5:35 PM|
It looks like fame went to his head. Shows what his priorities are:
[quote] By most accounts, Kushner and Jones became fast friends; Jones has been an occasional dinner guest of Jared and Ivanka Trump at their mansion in Washington’s posh Kalorama neighborhood, and Kushner introduced Jones to Kim Kardashian West, a longtime pal—along with her husband Kanye—of Ivanka’s.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||Last Sunday at 5:36 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 5||Last Sunday at 5:37 PM|
R2, I despised him from the first time I saw him and listened to what he was saying.
Another would be Shermichael Singleton. I have no respect for either of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||Last Sunday at 5:39 PM|
I can't stand Van Jones so this doesn't surprise me even a little bit.
That said FUCK HIM.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Sunday at 5:42 PM|
He has that Nation Of Islam look.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Sunday at 5:47 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Sunday at 5:49 PM|
CNN hasn't said anything yet about cancelling his contract
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Sunday at 5:51 PM|
I told you bitches a long time ago Jones was in bed with the Kushners.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||Last Sunday at 5:52 PM|
R11 how did you know?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Sunday at 5:53 PM|
r12, the First Step Act was signed by Trump in 2018. It was the law that reduced some time off of federal incarceration sentences. Jared Kushner spearheaded it.
While it was being drafted, there were articles in both the NY Times and the WAPO about who was closely working with Kushner on the law and Van Jones was one of them. Iirc, the report was he was seen "frequently" at the WH with Kushner and gossip had it that he was at dinners at their home.
So, Jones has been Star Fucking the Kushners for over 2 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Sunday at 6:03 PM|
R13, fuck him.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Sunday at 6:05 PM|
Forgot to add that Jones had a briefly-held job with the Obama Administration but I think he was asked to resign.
I don't know why.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Sunday at 6:07 PM|
Not surprising. He did an interview a few weeks back praising Kaylee Mcawhatever and her supposed "underestimated intelligence " for some fluff piece in what I believe was the NYT. It's hilarious how everytime an even moderately attractive woman (and in kaylees case I'm using the word attractive very loosely ) gains a position of power, everyone acts like she's some sort of secret genius underneath the spray tan and blonde hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Sunday at 6:14 PM|
He was dead to me the second he jabbed his finger in the air and, carefully placing a few pauses for maximum effect, made that oh-so-solemn pronouncement:
He...he....became....President of the United States in that moment. Period. That...was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Sunday at 6:16 PM|
God, I’ve always hated him. Remember his tour of America where he would pander to MAGAts equating them Democrats. I felt it was his way of saying both sides are “fine people”. Makes me sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Sunday at 6:21 PM|
The media is full of people like Van Jones. They will talk a big game about how we need to be liberal and tolerant but the minute some sleazebag corporate republican invites them to a cocktail party, all of their phony ideals go out the window. And I'm sorry whatever you think of the Cooper incident, some random woman in a park is nowhere near the existential threat that republican organized malfeasance and stupidity is. Jones is beyond stupid. On that note, the left needs to stop wasting time obsessing over Amy and Karens (who are 90 percent of the time mentally ill ) and start going after the republican bigwigs and corporate elites. But I guess that would take actually guts.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Sunday at 6:30 PM|
She is properly referred to as pigeon-headed whore Kayleigh MAGAninny, r16.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Sunday at 6:34 PM|
Fun fact: Van Jones is pre-lubed.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Sunday at 6:35 PM|
For what it's worth, the gals at LSA drag him every chance they get.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Sunday at 6:38 PM|
Talk about cancel culture. Van sweetie, get ready to be canceled.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Sunday at 6:49 PM|
Fuck him and the White Supremacist’s assholes he’s kissing!
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Sunday at 6:54 PM|
[quote] White liberals are (god, I fucking hate this word) "problematic" when it comes to racicsm but to say they are more of threat than the Trump supporters who want to blatantly ignore socially injustice or oppress anyone who isn't white? Stupid.
He didn’t say they were “more of a threat“. He said they were people we need to “worry about”, which is true. The enemy within are the one who stab you in the back. His point is that black people need to be cautious about who they trust.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Sunday at 6:54 PM|
Yeah, he's wrong. You dont worry about the ones who are less of a problem. You worry about the ones who actively want to suppress you or marginalize you.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Sunday at 6:56 PM|
Like many, I sat glued to the TV on election night and watched everything. I remember after Trump's win was announced, Van Jones melted down on TV talking about how he was going to explain to his toddler children in the morning that someone like Trump was elected. He's right but the performance was a little over the top. Anyway, I am actually taken by surprise by the article. It really is the pot calling the kettle black.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Sunday at 7:01 PM|
I still think he's hot as fuck, but #cancelled.
Be gone, Van.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Sunday at 7:04 PM|
Van Jones was always like this, but back when the Trump administration was new, it was far more acceptable to engage in both-siderism and to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
By that I mean the media was really into doing those things, as were pundits and talking heads. Most of us everyday folks knew it was bullshit, but the media wasn't exactly listening to us.
Since the coronavirus and the protests, the media has finally gotten the memo, and Van Jones's act no longer flies.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Sunday at 7:06 PM|
R1, I was so fucking LIVID at Jones for saying that, especially since the Amy Cooper who was a registered Democrat wasn't even the right Amy Cooper! The crazy Central Park lady hated Obama and screamed at people she knew who had voted Democrat, it was in the New York Post, they interviewed multiple people who knew her and reviewed court papers that had been filed. Jones fucking KNEW she wasn't a "Hillary Clinton liberal" and he said that anyway, the utter piece of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Sunday at 7:06 PM|
R30, I didn't even know that about Amy Cooper. Wow. Van Jones really is just another hack grifter trying to cash in his check.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Sunday at 7:08 PM|
I am stunned, just stunned! Stunned is the only way to describe how... stunned I am!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Sunday at 7:09 PM|
R30 It was just a convenient way for smarmy dipshit Jones to gain political brownie points. If there is one thing that both the right and the mainstream media absolutely adore, it's pointless shots at Hilary Clinton. By trashing Clinton, he endears himself to both CNN, NBC, the New York Times AND his creepy new right wing friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Sunday at 7:12 PM|
He’s someone who actually wants to get things done, so it’s not surprising he would work with whomever he needs to.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Sunday at 7:15 PM|
He just wants to be famous - that's it. Wasn't he once crying on TV because of election results.
He's built; I wonder if he'd be a good fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Sunday at 7:15 PM|
[quote] He’s someone who actually wants to get things done
He is an expert on Environmental issues, NOT police reform
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Sunday at 7:21 PM|
Gorgeous man--too bad he's a phoney-baloney
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Sunday at 7:24 PM|
Also didn’t he go after Kamala Harris for refusing to attend that criminal justice event at the whitehouse.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Sunday at 7:25 PM|
If I recall correctly , isn't he divorced from a relative of Jimmy Carter, possibly a niece?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Sunday at 7:26 PM|
Betcha Jones and Jared are fucking. Or maybe he’s fucking Ivanka, or both.
Betcha, I’m right.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Sunday at 7:30 PM|
[quote]If I recall correctly , isn't he divorced from a relative of Jimmy Carter, possibly a niece?
Billy's daughter Jana
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Sunday at 7:33 PM|
Wouldn't it be rich if Jared was an actual ... cuck?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Sunday at 7:34 PM|
I always loathed him. He8s the smarmiest apologist for bigots on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Sunday at 7:50 PM|
Embrace President Death dumb ass. You’ll be tRump roadkill eventually and no one will care.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Sunday at 7:52 PM|
I’d love to know why he was let go from the Obama administration.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Sunday at 7:57 PM|
I was never sold on him. He thinks the president is a sane person and can be on a learning curve. He is not.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Sunday at 8:08 PM|
r31, the Amy Cooper in Central Park was Canadian, No?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Sunday at 8:10 PM|
The MAGAts like him now. He’s a Kushner plant in the media masquerading as a Trump critic but really part of a huge effort to soften Trump’s image. I hope he gets cancelled b
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Sunday at 8:29 PM|
Extremely unethical of CNN.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Sunday at 8:34 PM|
DL was already on to this months ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Sunday at 8:36 PM|
[quote] DL was already on to this months ago.
we only suspected, now we have proof
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Sunday at 8:47 PM|
He is super shady.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Sunday at 8:49 PM|
He's known to be emotionally unstable, which is why he cries a lot on air, and is always flip-flopping on Trump. One minute he can't stand Trump and then a week later he loves him. Of course some of that flip-flopping could be the result of whoever is kissing his ass at the moment, or paying him money. He's an unstable narcissist like Kanye.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Sunday at 8:53 PM|
Either CNN knew or they didn’t. He could have told them and they suggested he keeps it on the low.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Sunday at 8:54 PM|
Uncle Tom Van Jones
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Sunday at 8:54 PM|
Birds of a feather
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Sunday at 8:58 PM|
R56 Two deplorable/disgusting snow queens
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Sunday at 9:01 PM|
I always knew he has was a phony bitch. After a State of the Union Speech one year, he said Trump did a great job and was really presidential. Asslicker
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Last Sunday at 9:02 PM|
Just more proof that Berners and Trumpsters are the same.
Van Jones is a fucking traitor.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Last Sunday at 9:02 PM|
As if I hadn't already had enough reason not to watch CNN for the last 15+ years.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||Last Sunday at 9:08 PM|
Shouldn’t he be fired? Journalists can’t moonlight for government. Not that he was ever a journalist but it seems unethical to not reveal it and then praise it. I hope he is fired. Does he have a title at CNN?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Last Sunday at 9:11 PM|
This guy always bothered me but I couldn’t put my finger on it.
I used to say the same thing about Tulsi. They have a similar energy.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Last Sunday at 9:17 PM|
I believe that he's getting paid under the table to say positive things about Trump.
His white wife recently divorced him because he's batshit crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Last Sunday at 9:17 PM|
Praising the executive order he wrote. Should be fired
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Last Sunday at 9:19 PM|
Hes actually still together with that white bitch. I don't think they went forward with the divorce. They filed and that was it, I never heard anything else about it.
Maybe it was dissolved. He said she's his business partner, so who knows.
He loves white people a little to much for me though.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Last Sunday at 9:26 PM|
R61: It doesn't seem unethical, it's the very definition of unethical. This is no different than someone on television pushing a company or a product in which they themselves have stock or a large investment and don't disclose that fact.
He's been a shithead for a long time, so I'm actually not surprised.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Last Sunday at 9:26 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Last Sunday at 9:28 PM|
A sorry ass sell out disappointment.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Last Sunday at 9:31 PM|
He thought no one would find out something this major?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Last Sunday at 9:41 PM|
CNN needs to fire him.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Last Sunday at 10:08 PM|
He recently divorced Jimmy Carter's niece.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Last Sunday at 10:38 PM|
[quote] Shouldn’t he be fired? Journalists can’t moonlight for government. Not that he was ever a journalist but it seems unethical to not reveal it and then praise it.
Are you serious?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Last Sunday at 11:33 PM|
On a Thursday evening this past May, Eliot Spitzer, hosting his now-cancelled CNN show, lobbed a chummy question to his studio guest Fareed Zakaria—an opinion columnist for The Washington Post, an editor-at-large for Time, a best-selling book author, and the host of Fareed Zakaria GPA, a weekly CNN show on foreign affairs. “Look, I read something in the paper this week,” Spitzer said. “It said that the president of the United States calls you for wisdom and advice about issues around the world. So first, when he calls you, what does he say? ‘Hi Barack, calling for Fareed?’ ”
Zakaria helpfully responded: “Mostly it’s been face to face meetings, usually organized by Tom Donilon, the national security advisor. What I’m struck by though, honestly, Eliot, is how much time he is spending thinking about the issues of the Arab Spring… It’s been a very thoughtful conversation, we’ll see where it goes.”
“I’m not going to ask you what you have said to the president,” Spitzer closed. “But it makes my heart warm that the president is calling you for wisdom and advice.”
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Sunday at 11:38 PM|
Did Maddow help craft policy then not disclose it to her employer? Did she go on air to praise and downplay criticisms of said policy as a paid commentator without disclosing she had a hand in crafting them?
Did she criticize a senator for not attending a sham event in order to gain favor with the president?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Sunday at 11:40 PM|
r74, those are good questions. Has she ever revealed the answers?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Sunday at 11:43 PM|
Van was a huge Tulsi fanboy.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Sunday at 11:50 PM|
I remember when he was a columnist/editorialist for a throwaway paper here in Philly. Dynamic, progressive-to-liberal, wonderfully expressive, easy on the eye(it can't be denied) and all over the place once his name and reputation got established. I thought here's a guy who's not afraid to call out people, ideologies and temperaments when they needed to be. I was sure he was going places, and indeed he has, just never figured he'd jump to the other side.
I wonder how he is viewed by his peers and colleagues?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Monday at 12:13 AM|
Van needs a hard spanking over the knee. I'll volunteer to get the job done.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Monday at 1:27 AM|
Opportunitists meet the mob mentality of the cancel culture. And you guys still trust the left?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Monday at 1:34 AM|
Hey LibertarianTroll. I still don't understand why you feel the need for the second half of your name.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Monday at 1:37 AM|
It's ironic, R80.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Monday at 1:39 AM|
Iirc he was pushed out of the Obama admin due to pressure from GOP. They basically ran him out of town for no good reason. I went to his Love Army movement that fizzled. He seemed to be developing his big ego right around then. I know people who worked with him back when he was with Green For All and Ella Baker Center basically when he was legit. He didn’t stay any place too long - definitely on the come up. Very ambitious and getting noticed. My friends have high praise for him but I think he’s changed. Now he seems star struck but acting like he’s keeping his enemies closer so to say. I side all these black activists married to white women.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Monday at 1:52 AM|
Uncle Van strikes again.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Monday at 1:55 AM|
He's entitled to his views but please don't pretend to be representing and speaking for the other side? I'd like to see how the smarmy newt worms his way out of this one. I"m not a popcorn 🍿 in the morning kind of guy but today I'll make an exception.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Monday at 3:39 AM|
I bet even Kushner does not respect him and just sees him as proof that every man has his price. Van's seems especially low given he's willing to sell out an entire ideology and willingly mislead people who look up to him. His naked ambition and greed has done him in. He's flown too close to the sun.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Monday at 3:49 AM|
He should have disclosed something so significant. CNN better do something. I’m so tired of the elites protecting their own.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Monday at 4:05 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Last Monday at 4:16 AM|
I kind of understand what Van Jones is doing. He's actually trying to create change by working with those who currently have the power to do it.
He worked with Kushner to develop the new federal prison reforms (it affects just a miniscule number of inmates, but it's something). He wants improvements in policing so he gave his two-cents to help craft the Republican bill.
I don't blame him for wanting to help fix the problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Monday at 4:31 AM|
He went to Jared Kushner's home for dinner? Then he's dead to me.
Van Jones is not the enemy. But the Kushners certainly are. And that's a line you do not cross.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Monday at 4:41 AM|
Geez he’s been dead to me for a longtime - since he called Trump’s SOTU presidential IIRC and was shitting himself with glee about it. Guess we know why.$$
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Monday at 4:56 AM|
R88, the bill was never meant to fix any problem. (And it was never about inmates, it was police reform, not prison reform.) It was meant as a political ploy, the intent was ALWAYS to have the GOP put something out there that was useless, because they knew Democrats would say no. Then when they did, the GOP would say, "Well, we TRIED to solve the problem but those terrible leftists wouldn't let us!"
And it kind of worked. If you look at the news headlines 5-6 days ago, it's all "Democrats block reform bill." All major news outlets phrased it exactly that way.
Two days later when the House passed a better, sweeping version of police reform, the press said almost nothing about it. If they did, they would add "it's a dead-end bill" or "but the bill is mired in controversy" to the headlines.
Now, think about all that in the context of learning that Van Jones helped write that first bad GOP bill.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Monday at 5:25 AM|
Van Jones is a traitor, a seditious little rat, who pretended to be "Left" -- pushing Bernie -- but who was really a fucking Trumpster moron the entire time, working to undermine liberals and Democrats.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Monday at 6:25 AM|
[quote]I kind of understand what Van Jones is doing. He's actually trying to create change by working with those who currently have the power to do it.
I agree as far as it goes. That he dines with those people is a bridge too far and that he failed to disclose is far more manipulative. I think Jones feels deeply about his cause and he somewhat conceals his zeal to do something about it... but I've always held when you move from advocate to zealot you've lost perspective. Anyway he's free to go about his business as he sees fit, I guess, but he shouldn't be on CNN keeping secrets.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Monday at 6:40 AM|
He’s an opportunist, plain and simple.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Monday at 6:42 AM|
[quote] I don't blame him for wanting to help fix the problem.
Again his expertise is in ENVIRONMENTAL issues NOT Police Reform
You might have an argument if this was about a Climate policy, but that was not the case here.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Monday at 6:48 AM|
Sorry, wrong. He was involved in justice and incarceration issues relating to blacks [italic]well before[/italic] the environment stint in the Obama administration. In any event, it is possible to be informed and engaged on more than one issue. You should try it.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Monday at 6:53 AM|
The media is full of people like Van Jones. They will talk a big game about how we need to be liberal and tolerant but the minute some sleazebag corporate republican invites them to a cocktail party, all of their phony ideals go out the window.
I agree with R19; viewers get all emotionally invested in the position of this person or that person, but behind the scenes, it's all about the paycheck & staying on TV with these types. They'll bend themselves into whatever shape they need to be and let's face it, there tends to be more $$ on the repig side of the house. I do, however, think that even when a person is expressing some type of opinion (and not just straight news), networks should provide some form of disclosure about who else employs them - not just political organizations, but companies that *influence* the opinions they are offering.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||Last Monday at 7:18 AM|
Amen, R97... it's like Cuomo's friendship with Kellyanne. Inappropriate on so many levels. You cannot pal with the people you cover... but in the end the nerdy little journos are desperate to pal with what seems cool to them. And you are so nerdy if politicians seem cool.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Monday at 7:22 AM|
He's a liar and a traitor.
He's unethical, and not at all bright.
He's a male version of Candice Owens.
Nobody should fucking pay any attention to a damn word that sell-out says.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||Last Monday at 9:25 AM|
I am in shock.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||Last Monday at 9:29 AM|
R79 STFU. No one likes stupid fuck Libertarians. It’s why you guys only get 2% of the vote. You’re insufferable idiots who try to have it both ways as in both extremes. If you ran the country it’d descend into Somalia within months. You’re a troll.
Van is not to be trusted. He’s done numerous questionable things including shilling hard for Tulsi Gabbard. He raved about her. He always downs the left in the age of this monstrous prez.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||Last Monday at 10:25 AM|
R96 Protesting police brutality, which is the only thing he has done is not that same as developing police reform
All he did was lead a "Black Lives Matter" type group to protest police brutality
|by Anonymous||reply 102||Last Monday at 10:27 AM|
I always marvel at people who won't bullet proof themselves on here. He did more than protest.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||Last Monday at 10:33 AM|
R103 according to your link that is ALL he did - Protest Police Brutality
Your own link proves it
|by Anonymous||reply 104||Last Monday at 10:34 AM|
Van Jones is setting the record straight - tweeting
This @TheDailyBeast article is based on false, sensational charges -- apparently designed to get clicks, shares, and likes. I haven’t even visited DC since before the pandemic started — let alone been inside the White House.
I have never been included in any meetings about police reform (not by phone, zoom, nada). I didn’t know what was in the EO until the day it was released.
When I meet with folks at The White House, I say so during relevant coverage on-air — as I did all through 2018, when I worked on criminal justice reform.
The accusation that I attended White House meetings on police reform but failed to disclose them is doubly false, and it should be corrected.
I will continue to openly work across the aisle to help those trapped in the justice system. We need more of that these days, not less.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||Last Monday at 10:35 AM|
OK, your literacy skills and stubborness are really dull, R104. Pedantic away.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Monday at 10:38 AM|
R106 which means you lost the argument
|by Anonymous||reply 107||Last Monday at 10:39 AM|
My suspicion is there is some overseas money at work with this guy. Check the super pacs, think tanks and all the usual suspects.
I’ve had this feeling for a while now.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||Last Monday at 10:39 AM|
R108 Van Jones is denying the entire story
|by Anonymous||reply 109||Last Monday at 10:40 AM|
Follow the money with this one.
Jill Stien, Tulsi G., it’s all the same playbook.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Monday at 10:40 AM|
Has he lobbied for any obscure countries or platforms? It fits the bill.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||Last Monday at 10:41 AM|
[quote]STFU. No one likes stupid fuck Libertarians. It’s why you guys only get 2% of the vote. You’re insufferable idiots who try to have it both ways as in both extremes. If you ran the country it’d descend into Somalia within months. You’re a troll.
What's most hilarious is that their most high-profile members are people like Rand Paul and Paul Ryan. Another one is former baseball player and professional dirtbag Curt Schilling.
Shall we go through the glaring hypocrisy of these assholes or can we accept that libertarians are the equivalent of vegans eating a cheeseburger as they lecture you on the greatness of veganism?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||Last Monday at 11:08 AM|
Libertarian Representative Justin Amash talked about the re-opening in a libertarian sense. He said businesses would never put their customers or their business in harms way so the government should step aside and let businesses make the choice because they’re so virtuous. Right after he says this you see tons of people in businesses not wearing masks not asked to social distance and now we have 31 states with spiking virus cases and three of my most populous states are nearing catastrophe with the virus especially taxes in Florida. This was on Real Time with Bill Maher. As we see businesses will never do the right thing. Most put their customers and their employees at risk. It’s disgusting. Do they not understand this was going to lead to us having to go backwards with the reopening? They just shot themselves in the face.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||Last Monday at 11:24 AM|
R11 I too would love to be in bed with Van Jones. He’s one smok’n hot dude. Smart, articulate, tight bod, handsome and the BBC. He’s got it all going on.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||Last Monday at 12:51 PM|
[quote] The accusation that I attended White House meetings on police reform but failed to disclose them is doubly false, and it should be corrected.
This seems easy enough to check. Why was he fired from the Obama administration? Could it be that Van is not competent, trustworthy or ethical?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||Last Monday at 12:58 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 116||Last Monday at 1:01 PM|
Daily Beast response to his denial
the White House source with knowledge said that “just recently, on the police reform executive order, Van and Jessica and the Reform Alliance, had been working with a lot of the families of people who had been killed by police officers, and we worked very closely with them on the EO.”
The source added: “On the EO, I would say he and Jessica were very helpful.”
“Van worked with us on fashioning things,” the source continued. “Having Van’s and Jessica’s perspective, they knew where the crazy people on the left were, they knew where the reasonable people on the left were, and everywhere in between. And they were helpful in guiding us to a sweet spot where we were able to speak with law enforcement but also do something that a lot of reasonable people in the middle and the reasonable left thought was a major step forward.”
|by Anonymous||reply 117||Last Monday at 1:06 PM|
Ooh, Van sleeping with the enemy 🍆
|by Anonymous||reply 118||Last Monday at 1:08 PM|
I'd still do Van Jones over Aaron Shock.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||Last Monday at 1:11 PM|
[quote]The media is full of people like Van Jones. They will talk a big game about how we need to be liberal and tolerant but the minute some sleazebag corporate republican invites them to a cocktail party, all of their phony ideals go out the window.
The media in general has become a shallow sideshow, full of pundits who are more interested in becoming celebrities than they are in doing their job. They completely failed us in 2016. They, more than anyone else, are responsible for the mess in the White House right now. But when your mantra is ratings above everything else, you get where we are at now.
And groan me all you want, but that includes people like Maddow, who showed such ridiculous bias towards Sanders in the last primary that she assisted in hindering Clinton's chances. No journalist should play favorites. They are to report the news, not influence it. And the problem is that so many personalities with their own shows have overshadowed legitimate journalism and news media that it's no longer about the story, but the corporate created outrage that can fuel it.
The days of Cronkite, Murrow, and Rather are long gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||Last Monday at 1:12 PM|
I am very concerned that Van Jones is working with The White House and cozy with the Kushners. Is CNN?
|by Anonymous||reply 121||Last Monday at 1:13 PM|
[quote] And groan me all you want, but that includes people like Maddow, who showed such ridiculous bias towards Sanders in the last primary that she assisted in hindering Clinton's chances.
Wasn't Lawrence O'Donnell a complete dick to Pete? And he couldn't even HIDE his disdain of him. Neither Maddow nor O'Donnell could.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||Last Monday at 1:14 PM|
Has Van come out as a gay Republican?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||Last Monday at 1:15 PM|
R121... he must be under some pressure if he feels inclined to respond.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||Last Monday at 1:16 PM|
He was close friends with that weirdo Prince, who clearly had a lot of mental health issues and became a religious homophobe later on. Birds of a feather.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||Last Monday at 1:16 PM|
Maddox and Hayes were doing hit jobs on Hillary regularly in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||Last Monday at 1:16 PM|
WTF. I remember watching him on the CNN panel shows leading up to the 2016 election. Kayleigh McEneny was on these same panels because CNN wanted to have a voice from the other side. I remember her hurling out her list of talking points until Van finally cut her off and scolded her for not letting anyone else speak.
Are they sleeping with each other? Only love hormones would make a man sell his soul to the devil like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||Last Monday at 1:19 PM|
Don't forget Ted Baxter, r120.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||Last Monday at 1:23 PM|
Two words. Bull. and Shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||Last Monday at 1:27 PM|
I’ve long found him incredibly hot and fantasized about him fucking me. That said, he is known in the criminal justice sector in which I work as an opportunist who promoted the First Step Act with Kushner/Trump to get his name and funding for #cut50 his nonprofit established. If this is true then he committed a huge breach of journalistic ethics by not disclosing his involvement when he discussed the Exec Order and praised it. If so, CNN needs to can host ass pronto
|by Anonymous||reply 130||Last Monday at 1:40 PM|
[quote] Two words. Bull. and Shit.
Who? The Daily Beast or Van Jones
If you read the responses to Van Jones tweets, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt - mind you these are Van Jones fans
|by Anonymous||reply 131||Last Monday at 1:43 PM|
CNN doesn't have the balls.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||Last Monday at 1:54 PM|
so what is the truth? who should we believe?
The Daily Beast or Van Jones
|by Anonymous||reply 133||Last Monday at 2:05 PM|
Not Van Jones. Van Jones is a dishonest, unethical, opportunistic liar.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||Last Monday at 3:17 PM|
Still think he should be fired
|by Anonymous||reply 135||Last Monday at 6:04 PM|
what is the story is made-up?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||Last Monday at 6:06 PM|
Van Jones is the Toure of news journalists; a mercenary hack.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||Last Monday at 6:06 PM|
Anyone who normalizes Trump is a POS. Period.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||Last Monday at 7:12 PM|
Have CNN responded? Or are they going to quietly drop him?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||Last Monday at 10:55 PM|
[quote] what is the story is made-up?
Van Jones says the story is 100% FICTION
so who do we believe?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Tuesday at 6:23 AM|
CNN always sticks it to Fox (fairly)... if they don't address their own house they might find the saddle on the moral high horse isn't as secure as previously.
Be interesting too if Erik Wemple at The Washington Post tackles it in his media critic column.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Tuesday at 8:27 AM|
Speaking of which, did Fox run with this? You'd think so. Can't bear to look.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Tuesday at 8:28 AM|
Most right-wing outlets are defending Van Jones saying this show how people need to 'work together' instead of oppose for the sake of opposing
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Tuesday at 8:30 AM|
You don't work with someone whose bigotry and racism you ignore. Someone who continually tries to legislate that bigotry and racism. Van Jones is an absolute shit if this is true. We're not talking about a disagreement over tax reform. Donald Trump is a vile, odious pile of shit. Any attempt to normalize him considering the things he has said, done or tried to do. makes you shit, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Tuesday at 8:37 AM|
Somehow Kim Kardashian managed to get some good out of Trump with that one unfairly imprisoned woman. Yet Van Jones just helped him make some shitty bill. What a loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||Last Tuesday at 9:21 AM|
He became unemployable in that moment. Period.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||Last Tuesday at 9:26 AM|
[quote]Somehow Kim Kardashian managed to get some good out of Trump with that one unfairly imprisoned woman.
Because the Pervident of the United States likes to look at her freak show ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||Last Tuesday at 11:11 AM|
R147, she still managed to achieve more than Van Jones attempted to. And that's just pitiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||Last Tuesday at 11:16 AM|
The trolls are trying hard on here with this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||Last Tuesday at 11:23 AM|
[quote]“First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.” -- Martin Luther King Letter From a Birmingham Jail, 1963
|by Anonymous||reply 150||Last Tuesday at 11:31 AM|
^^^The biggest stumbling block to Van Jones is Van Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||Last Tuesday at 11:33 AM|
All he needs now is a nice wiglet from Diamond and Silk.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||Last Tuesday at 11:37 AM|
Well, R151, that's because he's a big hangin' man.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||Last Tuesday at 11:38 AM|
Van Jones is just Candice Owen after she's shaved her head.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||Last Tuesday at 12:01 PM|
Has he been on TV since?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||Yesterday at 11:14 AM|
I hope he's never on TV again.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||a day ago|
I wonder if Ivanka (or Jared) sampled his bbc.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||a day ago|
Sorry but he, Kimye etc are all Uncle Toms. Working with racists is never a good idea
|by Anonymous||reply 158||a day ago|
[quote] Working with racists is never a good idea
Sometimes you have to work with shitty people to get stuff done. That's part of politics. But what's shady about Kimye is that they love Trump on a political and perrsonal level.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||20 hours ago|
There is nothing you'll ever get done as a Black Person working for Trump or the GOP.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||20 hours ago|
I'm really looking forward to his next appearance on a CNN to see how he purports to speak for black people.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||14 hours ago|
But his emails
|by Anonymous||reply 162||14 hours ago|
[quote]But what's shady about Kimye is that they love Trump on a political and perrsonal level.
I hadn't realized that either of those scumbags had any redeeming qualities in the first place. Vapid garbage with a constant and desperate need for attention - why wouldn't Trump appeal to them?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||10 hours ago|