Reacting to the report, Joe Biden slammed Trump’s record of “deference and debasing himself before Vladimir Putin.”
‘Tre45on’ Trends After Bombshell Story Claiming Trump Knew Putin Had Bounty On U.S. Troops
|by Anonymous||reply 219||10 hours ago|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/28/2020|
Everyone in this picture is a patriot, with one exception. @realDonaldTrump apparently knew Putin paid bounties to militants to kill US troops & POTUS did nothing. Actually, it was worse than nothing. Trump last month invited Putin to the G7 summit. Traitorous behavior by Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/28/2020|
The shit has hit the fan on this. Even the Lincoln Project has already burned out a damning ad. Meanwhile Trumpy is denying he ever knew about it and all kinds of peoples is speaking up.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/28/2020|
Biden has hopped on
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/28/2020|
Congress and the press have to find out if this information was listed in the Presidential Daily Briefs just like the warnings of COVID-19 were listed in the PDB in January, and Trump denied knowing about the virus.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/28/2020|
He knew. Why do you think the Intel people are quitting and he puts in a flunky asshole like Ratliffe as DNI, who wouldn't recognize an intelligence briefing if it bit his dick off? Trump KNEW. he may have argued about the truth of it. ( "Oh, no, I can't believe that! You have your facts wrong. Now those ragheads in Afghanistan may have killed some of our guys, but Putin had nothing to do with it. The Chinese are spreading false rumors about Vlad!")
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/28/2020|
[quote]”I’m quite frankly outraged by the report,” Biden said. He promised that if he is elected, “Putin will be confronted and we’ll impose serious costs on Russia.”
So the attempts to steal the election for Trump have just been ramped-up.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/28/2020|
Jesus goddamn motherfucking christ. What the fuck will it take for Bitch and Lady G to act? All Trump voters should be considered traitors. We should have a national strike and camp outside republican senators homes until they force his resignation.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/28/2020|
It's hard to say where this will go, but if whistleblowers start coming out of the woodwork about the intel provided to Dump & Pence or the senior military brash push back on Dump (since they're already trying to recover after the Battle of Lafayette Square) - add to that Dump's lukewarm reception in Tulsa - this one might actually be a bridge too far for the Senate repigs.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/28/2020|
Well, if we can commit the assassination of Soleimani, how do we criticize Russia?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/28/2020|
Hey, asshole at R11. We took action against our enemy. We took action against those who would harm us or our allies. It's what we're supposed to do. In a war. But Russia? They did the cowardly underhanded thing. They paid our supposed allies, the Afghans, to literally assassinate our soldiers. And they paid a bounty for it. They weren't even part of the fucking discussion. They just strong-armed their way into it to gain a foothold ...for the sake of gas and oil.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/28/2020|
A response from the demented old man who can’t string two sentences together:
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/28/2020|
If you go all the way back to the 50's and the start of the Cold War which few Americans even understood, Russia's "invisible hand" has been all over the Middle East making peace virtually impossible. Jimmy Carter came closest because he stood up to Russia. He did a lot of things that were unpopular, but he stood up to Russia. Russia's standard M.O is to probe for weaknesses and then make things worse and create internal chaos to weaken an enemy for their own gain.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/28/2020|
Trump is Putin's bitch. Once you realize that, all else that he does makes sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/28/2020|
I have to marvel at the surprise of the Media and the politicians. Trump is totally consistent. If you have been observing him since the beginning, this is exactly what you'd expect. He has his people like Putin, Erdogan, etc. and his personal agenda with them, and he really doesn't give a fuck about the country.
He doesn't give a fuck about the servicemen. When has he ever even commented on dead soldiers. When has he ever gone to Dover to greet the caskets and the families except for a photo op. Our soldiers get ambushed, killed, etc. he doesn't even pay attention. Instead his people cover up the circumstances of the ambush.
He's consistent. He doesn't care about people dying from the virus either. Not a bit. Those are numbers. He has no real human impulses. He is about as mentally disturbed as you get and still appear functional. This is who he is. This is what we get. This is what the Republicans have supported for four years. One predation after another.
Throwing paper towels at hurricane victims, then withholding aid from Puerto Rico. Just like he confiscated personal protection equipment so he could profit from selling it and we see our nurses wearing garbage bags. This is who he is. When Erdogan's goons were beating up our police officers and attacking protesters right on the streets of Washington D.C. he did nothing.
The only thing that slows them all down is exposure. They are sneaky cowards who like to operate in secret. So yes, whistleblowers. All of you are welcome here. Barr, Pompeo, various press secretaries, Mulvaney,Meadows, Priebus, Spicer, Huckabee, Conway, Mnuchin, they all lie reflexively. They only ever back off when they're exposed. Withholding funding from desperately needed people for storm damage? Business loans to buddies? Defense contracts to fly by night corporations? Secret deals with MBS or China? We only know because it was exposed.
He is rotten. He is evil and I hope he experiences all of the pain he has caused to others.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/28/2020|
Lovely. And since Trump is a known liar and bends the truth for his own purposes, claiming that 'he didn't know' just emphasizes that he's a doddering old fool. Bub, it's your job to know!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/28/2020|
We all know Trump's an asshole, but if the DOD knew about this, why aren't top brass in the Pentagon screaming about this? Did they just go along with Trump just to get along with him? If so, we have a bunch of spineless cowards sitting in the Pentagon.
I wonder what Mattis has to say about this?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/28/2020|
Is there any way to find out if Grenell and Ratcliffe are lying? There has to be documentation about what information they shared with Dump. I guess the general public has no access to this information, but could the Intelligence Commitee request these documents or are these intelligence briefings top secret? I hope someone has the courage to step forward, but I doubt it will happen with all these corrupt Dump stooges in every important position and no oversight.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/28/2020|
NYT reports it was included in his daily briefing. Everyone knows he doesn't read, it's not his fault if nobody told him or Pence. Also, the DNI thought the CIA told him and the CIA thought the secret service told him, it's an honest mistake.
Whatever happens, please do not find any of these families of dead soldiers, you know that won't go well for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/28/2020|
Uncle Bottom has but one instinct. Annihilation of self. Punishment. Suffering. He is a self fulfilling prophecy.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/28/2020|
FF @ R13
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/28/2020|
This can really hurt Trump, the Democrats need to ride this to the election. I’m glad the Lincoln Project is on top of it, at least.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/28/2020|
Malcom Nance: "We have lost 20 service members -- that's FIVE Benghazis according to them."
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/28/2020|
He doesn't give a shit at all. He's out golfing with Miss Graham today.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/28/2020|
And the cesspool just keeps getting bigger, deeper and dirtier.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/28/2020|
"He's out golfing with Miss Graham today."
Miss Graham will be receiving her marching orders today from Trump about how to feign outrage over this development, but at the same time sweeping it under the rug by preventing the Senate from doing any further investigations. By the 7th or 8th hole, Trump will remind Ms. Lindsey of their "arrangement" whereby Ms. Lindsey does Trump's biding while Trump doesn't "accidently" reveal Ms. Lindsey's past "indiscretions."
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/28/2020|
This could be it.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/28/2020|
You're funny, R29.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/28/2020|
There is no 'it.' Obviously he can get by with anything he wants. That whole impeachment was a sham - did anything come of it? Nope. His filthy, disgusting reputation was already tarnished. He has no sense of ethics, so he doesn't give a shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/28/2020|
[quote] If you go all the way back to the 50's and the start of the Cold War which few Americans even understood, Russia's "invisible hand" has been all over the Middle East making peace virtually impossible.
This is irrelevant to what we are talking about today, and also wrong. The US, Britain, and France bear a lot of the blame for what happened in the 50s.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/28/2020|
And it doesn't matter if "both sides" do this kind of thing. The president of the United States should be looking out for US interests, not explaining away the actions of countries that are working against US interests.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/28/2020|
I’m surprised the orange shit stain didn’t issue an executive order for a day of national mourning.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/28/2020|
We armed & paid the mujahideen to kill Russians during the Soviet Afghan war. We bragged about it & sent 60 Minutes over there with Dan Rather joining the heroic Muslim warriors. MI6 also paid the afghans. Up until recently we used to say that the Afghan War helped bring down the USSR. Now we keep that quiet, lest anyone say “Well if Afghanistan took down the USSR, why can’t it take down the US?”
My guess is that Putin is playing tit for tat & we — the IC & DNC — are trying to use it to our advantage. To which I say “Fine.” It’s another black mark against Trump, another part of his legacy, even though no president would’ve done anything about it, except maybe give Putin a stern warning that this is going to go on his permanent record. The more we can pile on top of Trump, the better as far as I’m concerned.
Trump will wiggle out of this, as usual. He’ll get advice from Bannon, who now has a nest of FSB agents living with him in that monastery in Italy, directly advising him & through him, Trump.
You did know Bannon got the monastery back, didn't you?
Trump’s 35-42% will still stick with him. They’d rather be russian than democrats & have the tee shirts to prove it.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/28/2020|
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|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/28/2020|
No one told me! Fire them!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/28/2020|
[QUOTE] This could be it.
This will be it
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/28/2020|
R36, yes we did. And so fucking what. It was in our interest, and it was also in the interests of the Israelis our closest allies in the region back then. Russia's invasion of Afghanistan to filch oil and gas was thwarted by Jimmy Carter and they were humiliated. Deservedly so. And now Putin has insinuated himself back in to the Afghanistan situation for the same reason only the fucking coward will buy off key people and assassinate others to get his way instead of some costly invasion. And Trump is helping him. Because Trump has now pulled 10000 troops out of Germany for Vlad, and he has been pulling our guys out of Afghanistan. The death of American Servicemen by bounty hunters is a craven despicable thing. Designed to demoralize. Agree with R34.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/28/2020|
What's Pelosi said about this? Sorry if there's already a post upthread.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/28/2020|
Another scandal that will be forgotten next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/28/2020|
It will be interesting to see how the military brass reacts to this information; if they take the position of "this is a very serious charge and we need to learn more", it will give air cover to the repigs and the WH will leak like one of Dump's old diapers as they all try to save themselves. If they say nothing or go in with the "this is a baseless accusation, fake news, blah, blah, blah", then maybe it is yet another scandal overshadowed by some other fuckery.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/28/2020|
The military have known this as long or even longer than Trump has known. My guess is that this leak has come through them
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/28/2020|
Where is Barb Starr?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/28/2020|
The military have known this as long or even longer than Trump has known
Well, "publicly" react to the news.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/28/2020|
"What's Pelosi said about this?"
She said, "Ronald Crump has clearly abdicated his duties here. I hope Joel Bryden calls him out on this".
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/28/2020|
R23, I'm pretty sure R13 was being sarcastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/28/2020|
[Quote] even though no president would’ve done anything about it, except maybe give Putin a stern warning
Obama placed sanctions against Russia which Trump didn’t enact.
We could easily marginalize Russia because it makes up less than 2% of world GDP—which means its economy has no impact on the world whatsoever.
We put damaging sanctions on Iran; why not on Russia??
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/28/2020|
R11, Trump is President of the United States. His duty and oath are to uphold our Constitution. He's not supposed to say, "Oh, well. We've attacked soldiers of other nations, so it's all even."
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/28/2020|
r31 r38 = Morons.
Why the fuck are you bumping threads that are current?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/28/2020|
I can hardly get my head around this, even after almost four years of this. Think about it...
The current POTUS is a traitor.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/28/2020|
[quote]He's out golfing with Miss Graham today.
I hope they have caddies, because Graham cannot find his own balls.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/28/2020|
[quote]yes we did. And so fucking what. It was in our interest,
And the U.S. wasn't pretending to be friends with the U.S.S.R. at the time. The Soviet premier didn't pretend the U.S. president was his pal.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/28/2020|
Amazing how whenever Trump says something, like Obama is a traitor, Trump then becomes that thing!
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/28/2020|
I think it's interesting that Dump & Co. aren't really denying the story - he's line is "they never told me"...here's the part where any number of people leak to the media that they were in the room when Dump was being briefed about this.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/28/2020|
Military times.cm, reports that traitor trump talked to Taliban on March 3rd. I wonder what they discussed?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/28/2020|
Keep it trending.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/28/2020|
R13 was being sarcastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/28/2020|
I want to know who are the traitors in the U.S. intelligence community who are allowing Trump to do this. They need to be prosecuted as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/28/2020|
[quote] I want to know who are the traitors in the U.S. intelligence community who are allowing Trump to do this. They need to be prosecuted as well.
R62, it's not the intelligence community, it's his staff in the White House, his advisors, his Cabinet secretaries, and the Republican leadership.
His chief advisor is his son-in-law, who like the racist, sexist, irresponsible imbecile, cares more about personal profit than the well-being and security of the US Armed Forces and US citizens.
They all need to run out of town on rails.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/28/2020|
The California Democrat, who is part of the so-called Gang of Eight that gets intelligence briefings, said she was not aware of the situation and has asked for a report to Congress: “Just as I have said to the president: With him, all roads lead to Putin,” Pelosi said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. “I don't know what the Russians have on the president, politically, personally, or financially.”
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/28/2020|
TRAITOR ad from VoteVets
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/28/2020|
I hope the nations military brass chop him up into mincemeat. If he’s not hauled up on treason charges, then fuck the nation. He needs to be arrested as he’s teeing off.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/28/2020|
I wouldn't count on that, R66. Apparently our intrepid military is scared to death of Trump and his Deplorables. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in our military if they're afraid of a 5 time draft dodger and his raggedy ass band of militiamen.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/28/2020|
I pray Nancy Pelosi fucks up - wink wink - and refers to President Traitor - Trump - in one of her next press conferences.
At this point, what harm can it do?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/28/2020|
The thread bumper(s) are hard at work trying to bury threads like this one.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/28/2020|
Bump for freedom and democracy.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/28/2020|
I'm already seeing the right wing talking point of "well, he doesn't read them" as their excuse. Mark my words, that's all they will be saying over the next few days and weeks.
As if being completely incompetent, lazy, and inept at your job is any kind of an excuse. But I guess it's better than being a traitor.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/28/2020|
NYT is saying it was reported by commandos and CIA agents to their superiors back in January. The Dump apologists will say it Dump didn’t hear about it because of the Dems' treasonous impeachment vendetta against Dear Leader that was underway at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/28/2020|
R63 When you warn Trump about the Russian evil and he does nothing and you remain silent, then you're just as guilty as he is. That's including his White House advisers and the outside experts.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/28/2020|
I’m sure he has learned his lesson this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/28/2020|
Ha ha remember when just admitting to slowing down testing during a pandemic so more democrats would die seemed bad? Those were the days, amiright?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/28/2020|
Bullshit they are r67. It’s the other way around. He’s a coward and a chickenshit and a draft dodger. Most of the Generals have already come out against him, and they don’t like fat losers in the military.
This is the end for fatty fatty orange by four.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/28/2020|
Link please, R76.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/28/2020|
R74 is apparently unconcerned.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/28/2020|
[quote]I'm already seeing the right wing talking point of "well, he doesn't read them" as their excuse.
That always works out well!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/28/2020|
😈 Of course he knew.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/28/2020|
[quote] This is the end for fatty fatty orange by four.
You’ve said that five billion times these past four years. Never happens. Watch him get re-elected. Americans love fascism.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/28/2020|
[quote] Russia's invasion of Afghanistan to filch oil and gas
The fuck? Afghanistan has very little exploitable oil (whereas Russia has plenty). Same with gas. You deplorables really are retarded.
Russia invade Afghanistan because the Afghan leader that the Russians wanted in power in Afghanistan was overthrown...pretty much by us. We wanted Afghanistan as a listening post for Iran & China, so we got rid of the Russian puppet & put in our own puppet. That was dangerous for the USSR. Afghanistan was a Soviet client state which gave the USSR their own listening posts for Iran & China, plus it helped buffer soviet borders in Central Asia. Iran was not a great friend of Russia. Iran had undergone its Muslim revolution & the USSR was atheist. Women in the Soviet stans were forbidden from wearing the chador and were given equal rights to men in the soviet constitution. Mosques were decommissioned just as churches were & became museums.
Iran did not approve & the USSR feared infiltration by Iranian agents who would cause fundamentalist trouble in the stans. Having control of Afghanistan gave the Soviets control over the afghan/Iran border & extended soviet central Asian presence all the way to the border of Pakistan, which was a US Cold War ally & thus a country that needed watching/listening.
Today, we are in Afghanistan for minerals and to have a presence in Central Asia, especially next to Iran.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/28/2020|
[quote]The shit has hit the fan on this. Even the Lincoln Project has already burned out a damning ad.
Lincoln Project normally avoids hyperbole in their tweets, the ads speak for themselves, after all. But they're now #TRE45ON truth tellers!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/28/2020|
He knew about this. OF COURSE he knew.
He didn't give a damn. He doesn't care. Hell, he probably gave Putin permission in exchange for more election help. This administration lies about everything. Everyone in the intelligence community appointed by Trump will also lie for him. He knew.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/28/2020|
Thank God The Lincoln Project is on our side, this time. If we had to depend on all-Democrats to create ads about this, it would be Fall before they'd air and they'd suck.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/28/2020|
VoteVets has posted an ad as well, but of course they’re preaching to the choir.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/28/2020|
According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.-Wikipedia
I suspect. Putin, Trump, XI are playing the board game Risk. All have a board set up and each week they move their armies around based on a roll of the dice. "HaHa Donald, I rolled a 3. Now you have to pull troops from Germany and I can move mine to the border with Poland". "No" "I call do-over, the dice hit the table".
These fuckers don't care about anything but money and power. Face it. You can rape hundreds of kids as long as your profitable and useful. Even Christians don't care about rape, lying, adultery, treason, murder. It's ok if you're a republican. You can, and I'm not thinking of anyone in particular, wear a pink petticoat and prance around with a dildo up your ass as long as you symbolically vote to repeal Obamacare 57 times.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/28/2020|
[quote]You can, and I'm not thinking of anyone in particular, wear a pink petticoat and prance around with a dildo up your ass as long as you symbolically vote to repeal Obamacare 57 times.
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET A CAMERA INTO MY LIVING ROOM?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/28/2020|
It will blow over, like everything he does. Nothing sticks.
You have to understand: the Deplorables aren't really voting for Trump- they're voting Republican. They want Pence/Pompeo as the Supreme Religious Leaders of a theocracy someday. Trump is just the Trojan horse to get them into office.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/28/2020|
[quote]Military times.cm, reports that traitor trump talked to Taliban on March 3rd. I wonder what they discussed?
Merchandising opportunities for Ivanka's clothing line in Kabul.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/28/2020|
This is how you take down a traitor.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/28/2020|
That even hurt my feelings...
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/28/2020|
R91 Yes, that Winslow video is fantastic and spot on.
I, and everyone I know, has sent it to Trumps official twitter account.
My tweet was the video and two words: Cry Harder
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|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/28/2020|
This would be a debilitating scandal for even the most popular president. Expect this to be huge on the news this week. America is super weak with the Republicans in power.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/28/2020|
He’s going to resign and they are gonna to run Pence at the last minute. Betting that it’s already in the works.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/28/2020|
I think the republicans finally have something they can use to distance themselves. They’ve all been itching to lately, waiting for the right time.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||06/28/2020|
R98: I wish, but more likely they will lie, lie and lie some more and say Trump didn't know... Unless there is proof, we are still stuck with his traitorous ass a bit longer.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||06/28/2020|
This is going to leave a pit in the deplorables stomach.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||06/28/2020|
Those bitch ass Republicans are going to hold on tight with denials or crickets. Collins will be concerned... Romney will be disappointed...Hell, Susan Rice is already saying she don't believe it.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 103||06/28/2020|
This is going to be a bombshell tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||06/28/2020|
Russian bounties resulted in deaths of U.S. troops, according to intelligence assessments
|by Anonymous||reply 105||06/28/2020|
r103: Here you go!
|by Anonymous||reply 106||06/28/2020|
link where she claims that she doesn’t believe the intelligence?
|by Anonymous||reply 107||06/28/2020|
Susan rice doesn’t believe he didn’t know. Nobody does.
That’s why we do links here. Welcome to datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||06/28/2020|
nm - I think I misread it. She don't believe they didn't know. OK, cool!
|by Anonymous||reply 109||06/28/2020|
“The intelligence was passed up from the U.S. Special Operations forces based in Afghanistan and led to a restricted high-level White House meeting in late March, the people said.”
|by Anonymous||reply 110||06/28/2020|
“U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffered a total of 10 deaths from hostile gunfire or improvised bombs in 2018, and 16 in 2019“
|by Anonymous||reply 111||06/28/2020|
Putin will dare Republicans do something. He has too much on them.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||06/28/2020|
Imagine covering up your treason with racism.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||06/28/2020|
Logically, I believe that turnabout is fair play. We fucked with Russia and the USSR, so they're giving with us.
That doesn't mean we have to laugh and say ”You got us!” If Russia was hurt by us, shame on them. Shame on us right now, and shame on the traitor in the WH for turning a blind eye.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||06/29/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 115||06/29/2020|
[quote]This is going to leave a pit in the deplorables stomach.
Their stomachs are big enough to handle it.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||06/29/2020|
R106, Rice was reacting to the denials of the White House press secretary. They said Trump was not brief , never knew about it. And Susan Rice, like the rest of us does not believe Trump didn't know. In other words, Susan Rice believes Trump KNEW. Please try to read with understanding. Or see if a grown up can explain things to you before you start spreading false information. ...Is English your second language? Do you close friends call you Boris?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||06/29/2020|
"This is going to leave a pit in the deplorables stomach."
Such horseshit. The only thing deplorables are worried about is maintaining the status quo with them being on top of the heap.
They've been hiding their racism, xenophobia and homophobia behind their fake patriotism and their fake religious piety for years. That very thin veneer is slowly being peeled off. .
|by Anonymous||reply 118||06/29/2020|
they love the military though, it's hard to justify killing them
|by Anonymous||reply 119||06/29/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 120||06/29/2020|
I really think we need to hold further Senate hearings on Hillary's emails. That is really what Americans care about.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||06/29/2020|
Nancy is on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||06/29/2020|
So there's going to be a "briefing" at the WH this afternoon, on the Russian Bounty Hunters, and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer aren't invited. Let's all pray that this is that meeting where the GOP leadership tells Trump to pack his shit and announce his resignation.
I know it's more likely that it's a PR strategy session. They'll spend most of their time attacking the Fake News lies in the media and the lack of credibility behind the intelligence.
Although the truth may be that neither Barr, who is in charge of vetting the Intel PDBs, and Pompeo, who still has his tentacles inside the CIA, and works closely with the Defense Department, never told Trump.
But I'm guessing they did tell him, and they even presented him with options...which he decided to ignore by putting it off...while he promoted Putin for G7.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||06/29/2020|
This is serious. The Karen meme is played out and it’s time to get real about 2020.
Nobody will be talking about race when there’s breadlines for Main Street and bailouts for Wall Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||06/29/2020|
[quote]They'll spend most of their time attacking the Fake News lies in the media and the lack of credibility behind the intelligence.
If the past is any indication, they will spend most of their time telling Trump what a wonderful job he is doing and how lucky we are to have him as president.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||06/29/2020|
Tom Cotton and Gym Jordan are only going there to give Trump his daily ass kissing and tonguing, R123. Then Miss Lindsey will show up so Trump can shit in her mouth, which she loves more than anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||06/29/2020|
Will Pigeon-Head be there?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||06/29/2020|
Deplorables don’t care about the military. They are and always have been fake patriotism and fake love of the military. It’s well known. They hide behind it as cover for doing terrible shit because how would such Patriots be for or allow x, y, z. Oldest trick in the book. And it implies we are the opposite. Some rubes fall for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||06/29/2020|
I saw/heard these headlines yesterday, but haven’t read stories yet. If true, and he knew about it...I’m officially out of words to describe this horror of a human being.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||06/29/2020|
Oh it’s true. They are in peak lying mode today. It’s been said that even if this was not corroborated by Intel that he and Pence would still be told nonetheless. They are supreme liars and traitors to our country. He’ll just say that he was distracted by the hoax that is the coronavirus. Because we know he can’t do two things at one time.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||06/29/2020|
But... um... uh... winning? Uh, birth certificate? Oh wait! I know! I know! [italic]Her emails![/italic]
Hello? Anyone there?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||06/29/2020|
But but I don’t trust her.
I don’t care about experience.
What do you have to lose?- djt
|by Anonymous||reply 132||06/29/2020|
Pence will thank Dump for his leadership, then Lindsey Graham will thank Dump for his tremendous leadership and after 5 more people thanking Dump for his leadership, Gym Jordan will thank Dump for his leadership and being so tough with Putin. Did I mention Dump is an amazing leader and everyone must thank him for his leadership?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||06/29/2020|
They will spend the meeting deciding the most important thing for the nation right now is to find out who leaked this information to the press.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||06/29/2020|
Mr. KellyAnne Conway:
This Russian-bounty story is as huge a presidential scandal as there can be. It’s an order of magnitude more outrageous than what he got impeached for, even though the Ukraine scandal was plainly criminal from the beginning. And it’s clearly not going away.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||06/29/2020|
Nancy is demanding a meeting for the House.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||06/29/2020|
Go, Nancy! Bust his tiny balls! Kick him in his three inch, third grader sized dick! FUCK HIM UP!
|by Anonymous||reply 137||06/29/2020|
[quote]I think the republicans finally have something they can use to distance themselves. They’ve all been itching to lately, waiting for the right time.
Really? Did you not notice that he was golfing with the Senatrice -- who is a VETERAN -- over the weekend? No one has any ethics, morals, or sense of shame anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||06/29/2020|
They can’t get rid of him because the base will never allow it. They hate normal Republicans now. They want candidates like him. This is not going to get better. They won’t vote for anyone else they put on the ticket if it isn’t him. They may be looking at a landslide loss Now but they would be looking at an absolute catastrophe if he is removed or even a hint that he was removed from the ticket even if he says he wanted to resign. Trust me I know some deplorable‘s and if he’s out on the ticket they’re not voting for Republicans in November.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||06/29/2020|
The deplorables are excusing it by saying " so what? We do it too and every soldier who signs up knows there's a bounty on their heads". Saw several post it today.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||06/29/2020|
R140 They don’t care about soldiers. They never have.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||06/29/2020|
[quote]Trust me I know some deplorable‘s
|by Anonymous||reply 142||06/29/2020|
JFC, I am so mad about this I want to rip his throat out and shit down the hole left!
Goddamned TRAITOR who was a fucking coward he claimed "bone spurs" so he didn't have to serve is now allowing Goddamned chinless, dickless motherfucking Putin to kill our soldiers, sailors and Marines?
Good god, he really does need to be hanged for treason. Straight up.
You better believe I called the sniveling, cowering Portman and asked him if his "pro life" stupidity applies to our military because he has said and done NOTHING to rebuke this traitor.
God damn them all!
|by Anonymous||reply 143||06/29/2020|
Former FBI Special Agent Asha Rangappa:
Folks, we are about to experience the mother of all gaslights in response to the Putin bounties.
My wager: Bill Barr is going to launch an "investigation" into the "leaker" who gave the story to the NY Times which is also going to somehow become magically connected to Obamagate
|by Anonymous||reply 144||06/29/2020|
AP says WH knew in Early 2019.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||06/29/2020|
Bolton briefed Trump on Russia Bounties in March 2019.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||06/29/2020|
The White House knew back in 2019
|by Anonymous||reply 147||06/29/2020|
Ok John `Bolton, I won’t insult you any more, that confirmation you told Dump last hear about the bounties is a bombshell
|by Anonymous||reply 148||06/29/2020|
Bolton could have done more. He talks about how the House blew the Impeachment by narrowing their focus, but I am certain, if they had know abut this they would have added it.
This tells me one thing. The Democrats MUST Take the Senate no matter what. We will need 67 votes to impeach. Yes. because if that despicable slug steals this election I want his ass gone by March 1st. We need a fucking firewall. No Republican is fit to hold a public office. None. How the fuck can any of them stand there and defend him? This is indefensible. He briefed them and told them what to say at their meeting. But it was all a lie. And they bought it. Now they look like the craven corrupt vile little vermin they are. because he lied to them too. I wonder if, tomorrow morning, any of those little rats go on TV and say, we went to the WH for a briefing and he lied to us?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||06/29/2020|
[quote]This tells me one thing. The Democrats MUST Take the Senate no matter what. We will need 67 votes to impeach.
Stop saying this. The Senate DOES NOT IMPEACH.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||06/29/2020|
The Senate doesn't even have the balls to get people to testify or honor subpoenas and people still think they will impeach Barr or Kavanaugh. Barr will testify before the Judiciary committee at the end of July. Nadler couldn't even force Barr to show up sooner after he fired the prosecutor and only threatened to cut funding for the DOJ. No one will care a month from now and nothing will happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||06/29/2020|
The Plot Against America
|by Anonymous||reply 152||06/30/2020|
R89, No, YOU have to understand. The Deplorables believe that Trump is literally the Chosen One of God; they hear this preached weekly. They believe he is here to destroy the heathen pedophiliac Democrats. They cheer, hoot, and vote FOR HIM.
You are speaking of people like Pence, who, yes, see Trump as a means to a jurisprudence and theocratic end. These types scorn the ignorant and gullible Deplorables as much as anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||06/30/2020|
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Marco Rubio @marcorubio
Ironically many of those now politicizing the recent report in the NYT questioned,disputed &/or downplayed indisputable proof that #Soleimani had a long track record of targeting & killing American troops. They pick & choose what to believe based on partisan politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||06/30/2020|
I forgot about Soleimani. How time flies and crimes mount up!
|by Anonymous||reply 155||06/30/2020|
Uh, Marco is choosing what he wants to believe based on partisan politics
|by Anonymous||reply 156||06/30/2020|
Republicans are Unbelievable in their defense, in their ability to change the subject or deflect from something this serious. How did they do it? They always make it seem like there’s more to the story or somethings not true or something’s ambiguous. Just unbelievable. They’ll be successful in getting this story off his back. Traitors. Putin has the entire GOP except maybe Romney.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||06/30/2020|
So I was talking to my younger sister tonight. She's 42. We all hate Trump in my family. I told her the internet is blowing up about the Russian Bounty scandal. She said, " so what? I'm tired of all this! No one ever does anything about it. I'm focusing on how we vote and protecting our votes and getting people registered to vote and getting out the vote. He's a monster. It's just one more example of how awful he is." I was dismissed. So if my anecdotal experience is any indication, the sense of outrage hasn't trickled down to regular people. I was surprised. Because to me, all the corrupt racist outrageous stuff he has done pales in comparison to this, which I consider a betrayal. This is not just graft or profiteering. This is betrayal of his country at war. But aoparently a lot of people have become desensitized and they are exhausted and just want him gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||06/30/2020|
The active military, veterans and their loved ones ought to be livid, R158. I'm sure many are. It sounds like your sister is furious, too, but is using her energy and rage productively instead of [just] talking about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||06/30/2020|
Once again, the New York Times has taken you for a ride. The “intelligence” that claimed that Russia was offering bounties was dismissed by seeing your intelligence analysts as noise.
It never made it into his daily briefing.
Everyone involved has denied the story, including the fucking Taliban.
Why do people still pay attention to the New York Times when they can’t even seem to corroborate their own stories?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||06/30/2020|
Seeing your- SENIOR
|by Anonymous||reply 161||06/30/2020|
R160, are you for real? The only people who dismissed the reports were biased Republicans. You must believe everything Fox News tells you.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||06/30/2020|
Shit like that will get you a visit from the Secret Service. Try to keep it within the legal boundaries.
Of course, since you are so stupid, maybe a few decades in jail for threatening to kill the president might do you some good.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||06/30/2020|
Don't waste your time r162. Ignore or block and ignore as I do. We have bigger fish to fry.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||06/30/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 165||06/30/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 166||06/30/2020|
Yes, block r160, who’s the king of dummies today as he clearly didn’t see the NYT today with their story that included ACTUAL RECEIPTS—like RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENT, not just “RECEIPTS.”.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||06/30/2020|
What pissies me off is that when the story first broke even the dumbest of Republicans in Congress cringed. It was bad. They knew it. It disgusted them. They probably got knots in their stomachs thinking of this as the ultimate fuck up. But then, they go to the WHite House. And they get the Spin. They get the version of events and the script they are to use to calm things down. So they leave, and like robots they spout off the party line, even as it is proven false. All the buullshit they were fed at the White House is disputed and proven false within hours. But they keep right on saying the script they were given. They are so completely lacking in anything resembling a conscious or a sense of morality, they just want to put on a pubic face and keep promoting the lies. How they can live like this I don't know. But none of them belong in public office. It is sickening. It disgusts me to watch this unfold. I have to believe that the majority of American people feel as much revulsion as we do.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||06/30/2020|
I'm guessing a lot of them are up to their eyeballs in Russian money just like Trump, r168.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||06/30/2020|
R169 It's not only about Russian or Koch money. Or NRA, or lobbyists, or other dark PAC money. Sometimes it's as simple as reward and punishment. McConnell is a tough guy. He can fuck a senator up in a heartbeat. The Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader have all kinds of perks, connections and goodies to give away. If you get on their bad side they will make it very difficult for you to function and in a few cases you will be treated like a pariah by your own colleagues. Leadership discourages independence. The Republicans have always been more disciplined and "unified" because the leadership uses a whip hand to wrangle the members.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Last Wednesday at 2:35 AM|
Here are 3 soldiers who were killed and bounties were paid by Putin. One is from Delaware, one from York, PA, one from Long Island.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||Last Wednesday at 3:26 AM|
Correction, they were based in Long Island, Christopher Slutman is from Harrisburg, PA.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||Last Wednesday at 3:28 AM|
[quote]bounties were paid by Putin
I do not see that referenced in the linked article r171.
Could you help me out.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||Last Wednesday at 3:30 AM|
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but a week from now, this thing will be long forgotten. Trump and Barr prove once again they're the smartest people in the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||Last Wednesday at 3:58 AM|
[QUOTE] Everyone involved has denied the story, including the fucking Taliban.
of course they’re going to deny it. What are they supposed to do? Guffaw a little, slap their knee, and say “well, ya got me. Haha.”
|by Anonymous||reply 175||Last Wednesday at 3:59 AM|
Who gives a shit what the Taliban is saying, unless they're giving terms of surrender? No one but a Dump supporter would take the Taliban's word (or Putin's or Kin Jong Un's) over that of our Intelligence Community. You people are sickening.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||Last Wednesday at 5:59 AM|
[quote]Trump and Barr prove once again they're the smartest people in the world.
I was going to F&F you, but I will just laugh at you instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||Last Wednesday at 6:03 AM|
Does anyone remember that Barr fired US Attorney Berman two weeks ago and only agreed to appear before congress more than a month later? A new scandal every fucking week. Will anyone still care about this at the end of July?
|by Anonymous||reply 178||Last Wednesday at 6:27 AM|
One of the fathers of the dead said something along the lines of “well, if this is true I might lose confidence in the administration.”
The Trump cult is large & 99% immobile. You have to prove to them that their own sons were killed as a result of having a lazy, inept, publicity-hungry, attention-seeking, golf-playing, porn-star fucking, pussy grabbing, pathological liar president who has refused to protect American lives during a pandemic.
This is just another weekly scandal, even to the families of dead people. “Well yes, they said at the hospital my uncle died of cojones virus, but we can’t trust them. He mighta had the flu, or a new-moanie-ya.”
|by Anonymous||reply 179||Last Wednesday at 7:22 AM|
Go ahead and laugh your fucking ass off, R177, because next week at this time, Trump, Barr and Pompeo will be laughing their asses off at you as they "manage" yet another scandal into oblivion.
Their is no magic cure for Trump. The only way Trump is leaving is if he loses the election, and even that is very iffy at this point. You'd think you'd get that through your thick skull after 3 1/2 years of this same old shit.
I'm sorry that doesn't jibe with your version of reality.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||Last Wednesday at 7:32 AM|
So how many people are now dead as a result of President Plump's actions?
128,000+ dead from Covid-19 (yes, he's not responsible for all of those deaths, but his lack of action has resulted in many deaths)
Dead U.S. service men and women from bounties placed on them by Putin (Trump knew and did nothing)
He assassinated Solemanei on a whim (unnecessary, and it resulted in them shooting down an airplane)
Did nothing about the dismemberment of Jamal Kashoggi (and we still don't know if Jared leaked intel to his buddy Saudi prince MBS)
Screwed over the Kurds by randomly pulling troops out of Syria (also handing another win to Putin). I'm sure many died as a result.
Immigrant children in cages (we don't know how many of these have died or where there are being held/sent)
These are just examples off the top of my head, there are probably more.
This fucker and all of his complicit traitor friends need to be held accountable. They have blood on their hands. Trump Crimes Commission along the lines of the Nuremburg Trials is what we will need starting in January 2021.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||Last Wednesday at 8:46 AM|
Goddamn the GOP traitors for covering for this shitstain!
Roasting in a grease fire in hell for eternity is too good for them.
Three US Marines!
Goddamn those that disgusting traitor!
|by Anonymous||reply 182||Last Wednesday at 9:38 AM|
R181, All the pro-Biden Republicans right now, with members of the Dubya Administration rumored to be joining them soon, pretty much guarantee that Joe, once in office, will be his usual "reach across the aisle" "let's move on" self.
There will be no Commissions, no investigations, no punishments, other than the "We don't know him" kind.
In any case, it will be then revealed that Trump is beyond remembering anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||Last Wednesday at 8:52 PM|
R183 Wrong. He will run on that but even the Republicans joining him want accountability. It’s the reason they are behind him. The want jail time for this corruption.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM|
Let's hope so, R184. We can't keep letting the standards slide. We need accountability for crimes at high levels (financial, too).
|by Anonymous||reply 185||Last Thursday at 4:16 AM|
Well I do think this time is different. I do think that Biden and a Democratic Congress will work together to put some regulations, some laws, etc. in place to prevent the horrible abuses of power we have witnessed. The only way to prevent this from happening is to take measures to make sure it can't happen again. Yes, the Senate failed to do their duty. But it's more than that. So we have to reform our laws to make sure of that. And I think people like JAred and some of the others will get charged with crimes. But Trump personally won't. he should. But he won't. What will happen is investigative hearings to expose the filth that was going on through that entire corrupt administration. Trump will be a pariah.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Last Thursday at 5:54 AM|
Accountability will only happen if Dems take the Senate and keep the House.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Last Thursday at 6:13 AM|
I wonder how long it will take to get rid of all these corrupt political appointees that are currently occupying almost all federal agencies. How long will it take to rehire all the good public servants this current adminatration ousted and replaced with Dump sycophants. How long will it take to undo the damage this idiot has done to all agencies and reastablish the pandemic response team for example. How long will it take to undo all the damage this dictator has done to environmental laws and regulations, the justice systems etc. I'm glad Biden is the Democratic candidate since he, Obama and his former staff know how to run the agencies/departments in a responsible way and bring the country back on track. I hope they fire every former Dump employee on day one and still have a list of good people to replace them with immediately. It's sad that Biden will probably spend most of his first term (or presidency) to undo the damage this idiot has done to this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Thursday at 6:35 AM|
[quote]But... um... uh... winning? Uh, birth certificate? Oh wait! I know! I know! Her emails!
[quote]But but I don’t trust her.
[quote]I don’t care about experience.
[quote]What do you have to lose?- djt
These should be part of the next Lincoln Project ad. They probably would never go so far as to exalt Hillary, but it would be a kick in the nuts.
Has anybody seen Bloomberg??!
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Thursday at 6:41 AM|
Slutman (I agree with the poster above - too soon) was not only a soldier at home, but a volunteer fireman, and before that, a firman when he lived in NY.
His father’s words might make this shit real for those who sit on the fence - to realize that they could have been spared this agonizing knock at the door if Trump hadn’t been colluding with Putin.
[quote]Chris Slutman’s parents learned of their son’s death from the Marine Corps on Monday night. His father, Fletcher Slutman, said, “When I turned the porch light on and opened the door, and I saw in uniform, I said, ‘This is not good.’ He said, ‘Can we come in?’ I said, ‘Yes,’ came and sat at the table. He said, ‘Do you want to get your wife?’ And I really didn’t want to until I learned more. I shook my head no and he shook his head yes. So, I called my wife in and then we went through everything and he explained everything.”
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Thursday at 6:48 AM|
*fireman when he lived in NY.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Thursday at 6:49 AM|
This is going to be another case of a a Dem cleaning up after a Republican mess. Lather, rinse, repeat. I know progressives are frustrated about the lack of progress under some Democratic administrations. But they’ve had no chance to get anything done because both Clinton and Obama only had two years of total democratic control. The last president who really had total democratic control and wasn’t cleaning up a republican mess was Lyndon B Johnson. And look at all he accomplished.
I am afraid because Biden will have to clean up so much of this mess progressives will get frustrated with him and bitch and moan and will have another blowout loss in the midterms of 2022 and then possibly lose the 2024 election with even another candidate because Biden is not likely to run again. And we’re going to hear the same complaints from the Susan Sarandon wing. We really need to understand that it’s all about judges judges judges. Without judges we could lose any progressive policy that is passed because it will be struck down by these radical conservative judges that are being put on the benches.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Thursday at 6:51 AM|
[quote]The deplorables are excusing it by saying " so what? We do it too and every soldier who signs up knows there's a bounty on their heads". Saw several post it today.
Those are most likely bots, trying to hook low-intelligence deplorables. They will convince many.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Thursday at 6:52 AM|
Das vadanya, Donnie.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Thursday at 1:45 PM|
Is Putin also paying trolls to bury the lead on Datalounge with bullshit posts about death threats to "All Lives Matter," Tucker Carlson for President and cancelling the Mikado?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Thursday at 3:58 PM|
There are ALREADY FYCKING LAWS AGAINST THIS CORRUPTION!
It's a goddamned LAW ON THE FUCKING BOOKS ALREADY that the orange shitstain has to turn over his taxes to Maxine. Full stop. And yet here we sit, waiting for the corrupt SCOTUS to rule on an existing LAW.
Fuck this. Heads on pikes. No quarter. Barr and turtle to the front of the guillotine line. Make sure the blade is dull and rusty.
Hold every last goddamned rethug accountable.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Thursday at 4:02 PM|
Tara Dublin Should Be A Lot More Famous By Now@taradublinrocks·NOW
If you’re not watching @TheLastWord you just missed @SteveSchmidtSES own #TraitorTrump harder than anyone over #BountyGate & @Lawrence struggle with emotion as he spoke to the loss of his cousin in Vietnam. Absolutely powerful TV #TrumpKnewAndDidNothing
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Thursday at 6:34 PM|
Check out Steve Schmidt crucifying Trump on Lawrence tonight...
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Thursday at 10:08 PM|
And yet rethug senators still cower and refuse to speak up against this shit.
Fuck these sniveling cowards!
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Thursday at 10:43 PM|
Well, my beautiful young cousin died in Vietnam. He was 21, the pride of his immigrant family. Steve Schmidt just made me cry. He's right. This is the ultimate betrayal. This is despicable. If I were the marine waiting at Trump's helicopter on the White House lawn they'd have to give me a different assignment because 'someone' would definitely get hurt.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Friday at 4:28 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Friday at 6:28 AM|
Jesusgoddamnmotherfuckingchrist, there's not going to be an election. That's why he doesn't have a plan or a clue.
He will not hold an election he can't win. He will not resign. What would Putin do? What is Putin telling him to do? Use the pandemic as an excuse, exert every executive power you can imagine, use the hundreds of millions you stole from the stimulus to buy off the correct people in 50 states. He has already bought 200 federal judges and a supreme court seat.
Why would he NOT do this? His whole family could go to prison by following the law.
His followers believe everything he says. If he says the election is cancelled, it is cancelled. Barr is preparing the 100 executive orders right now. This is 2000, 2012 all over again. We are screwed. Republicans control 29 vs 19 states for Dems
Oh, and BTW, it's official, I can't get pregnant!
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Friday at 9:06 AM|
R202 We would burn down every city if that happens. The rioting would be like nothing ever seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Friday at 10:35 AM|
[quote]He will not hold an election he can't win.
"He" has no say in the matter, short of declaring martial law. Elections are controlled by the states, not the Feds.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Friday at 10:54 AM|
R203, they are hoping for riots. They have all that military gear and they want the chance to use it.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Saturday at 4:47 AM|
R202, which is exactly what they want.
R204-REPUBLICAN STATES! 29 to 19 advantage.
Just the words "I'm cancelling the election" , are enough to throw the country into chaos. "He" says it and "They" follow. If he says "no collusion" ,he believes it, he says "hoax" they believe it, if he say's hydoquinine is a cure, and masks are an evil plot, they believe it. He says he didn't hear "white power", they believe it.
He lies 20,000 times and they believe him.
They have the motive, opportunity and resources and ideology. What am I missing? "The states", "The constitution".
We have a pandemic, economic collapse, civil unrest, all we need is a hurricane or a Reichstag fire for him have all the justification he needs to AT LEAST make a play for it and watch chaos ensue. Even if he fails, he'll be able to create enough of a distraction for him and his family to escape out the back door.
His dog whistles have turned into MAGAphones. The day before the George FLoyd protests began, he retweeted a cowboys for trump video and the first words said were, "THe only good democrat is a dead democrat". Do you think he meant that as a joke? Do you think his followers think that was a joke? A 24 hour nothing story. What do you suppose the other members of "Cowboys for Trump" are thinking he meant?
NO GOP responded to it. We heard, "Didn't see it", hadn't heard it. Evil motherfuckers, all.
The Halloween Riots of 2020 will be the nail in the coffin for American Democracy.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Saturday at 6:58 AM|
But the crises of the recent months have eroded Trump's support, not increased it. His position and credibility is worse than it was in January.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Saturday at 8:34 AM|
That fat traitor can say or do anything he wants. The individual secretaries of state control the voting process.
Even in fucking red hell Ohio the secretary of state has been lobbying for mail in voting. Get it? The STATES CONTROL THE ELECTION. Not this orange slob.
If that shitstain demands states don't hold elections, he will be ignored. Even some red states will ignore his stupid ass. Just like states are ignoring his "it's all a hoax virus"lies.
The lickspittle trumptard states like Texas will jump off a cliff and may refuse to let people vote but that's all idiot Abbot can do.
If he or any other rethug state thinks they are going to stop people from voting, they're in for a fucking RUDE AWAKENING.
Do you think these counties and municipalities with issues on the ballot are just going to roll over? FUCK NO.
The states also have ISSUES IN THE BALLOTS THAT MUST BE VOTED ON ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN STATE CONSTITUTIONS!!
No vote, no money. Get it? Even the teatards will be up in arms over it.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Saturday at 11:14 AM|
He needs to resign in disgrace and disappear never to be seen or heard from again.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Saturday at 11:53 AM|
To what end would Trump postpone the election? Unless he declares himself dictator for life, he has to step down at some point -- and once he does, he (and Barr and everyone who helped enable this coup) will be arrested and tried for crimes against the U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Saturday at 11:55 AM|
White supremacists have infiltrated local police departments. Local police departments have militarized. We also have Proud Boys, Boogaloo Boys, and Storm Front. Then let's not forget Erik Prince and his private mercenary army. I'd say the balance is in their favor if we choose armed confrontation. They will do anything they can to provoke violence. We have to be smarter. I get it. Trump will try anything toi stay in office. He doesn't care about the Law or COnstitution or the rules. He is going to try to pull a fast one. Once we know what he can try, we need to get smart about how to stop him before he does it. Because laying defense is a lot harder. If you know for example there could be avolent event on Halloween, why wait for it. Letrs think strategically.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Saturday at 12:16 PM|
R211 the hell they have the advantage. Bullshit. They’ll find out fast plenty of those on the left have guns and there’s more of us.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Saturday at 12:28 PM|
The media MUST keep this Russian bounty story, and Trump's neligance, on the front burner; not just social protests and COVID yappers.
Democrats need to hold immediate hearings and investigations; and go ballistic if they are not receiving cooperation and answers. If they don't, Putin and Trump get away with yet another horrible act.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Saturday at 12:45 PM|
R212 you're suicidal. I'm not. What I am saying is that when you know where they are heading, you know what their plan is, why wait for them to work off their time table. Why play defense. That is all we ever do. We RE ACT to them. Instead we need to force them to react to us and our time table. We Dems and Indies just don't think strategically. And saying well we have guns too is just dumb. YOu're allowing them to chose the field of play and the weapons. No. I am not expendable to such ends. We need to be tough, smart, and relentless and not petulant knee jerks.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Saturday at 5:06 PM|
r208. Did you read the Newsweek article? Susan Rice, re-tweeted it to Pelosi and Schumer along with her warning. She's not alone. Listen to what smarter, experienced people are saying.
Even if this is NOT happening, we need to prepare as if it IS happening. Civil unrest and rioting are key to their plan.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||Last Sunday at 6:14 AM|
The military has turned on Dump. They won’t support him if he refuses an election. He put bounties on their heads. They’re not big on that.
The second the military told him to fuck off when he told them to fire on protesters and condemned his stupid photo op, I knew he was smoked.
If the Deploracunts are looking to start Civil War 2, they’re going to get put into the ground once and for all. This whole bullshit of “they’re armed” is just that. So the fuck what they’re armed. Let’s see them win against a drone strike. Fucking idiots.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||a day ago|
If you can't see what's happening right before our eyes you're duller than a post. This is Trump's election strategy: The Right, Trump's campaign aided and abetted by all the wackdoodles like Storm Front, Proud Boys, the modern KKK, the Boogaloos, etc. are out here agitating and provoking the protests. The so-called Far Left are helping them. Russia is behind all of this, using social media and fake accounts to incite and give the young protesters the impression these are organized events. The newest development being that Black protesters are now showing up heavily armed too in the past few weeks. Trump at the very least wants to scare white people and make sure he gets the response from them that Nixon/Agnew got in 1968 with people being upset scared and angry about all the unrest. Except since he is actively out here preaching his racist message, I'm betting this will backfire. Because he is the one who'll be blamed.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||a day ago|
130,000 dead Americans and thousands more to come, a once in a century economic catastrophe, widespread and growing recognition of the realities of racist power structures, and they really think they're gonna turn this into The Statue Election™.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||a day ago|
[quote]We would burn down every city if that happens. The rioting would be like nothing ever seen.
And then, R203, Putin's objective would have been accomplished beyond his own wildest dreams. The US would never recover.
The Executive Branch would target key people for arrest/killing; they've been compiling lists of enemies all through Trump's presidency. There would be sufficient deplorables among law enforcement and the military to destabilize both. Hell, it's even possible that we'd see an actual 'Red Dawn' (1984) scenario, where Russian military troops would deploy here in the US in order to render aid to an 'administration under attack', to quell civil unrest - and Trump would welcome such assistance. I seem to recall that, in 2018, Trump defunded and ended the early warning system watching our borders and airspace for any signs of foreign invasion, which is when I began to suspect something like 'Red Dawn' might be in the works. I hope I'm wrong.
[quote]"He" has no say in the matter, short of declaring martial law.
R204, you say that like you think it's the most improbable thing ever.
[quote]To what end would Trump postpone the election? Unless he declares himself dictator for life, he has to step down at some point
R210, he's been talking about becoming 'President for Life' since he was only a candidate, and many times subsequently. He's always had that in view.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||10 hours ago|